Magic the Gathering

[twilit canyon]

that casts the shit creature types

[sudden lava]

I'm excited for the village cycle

[twilit canyon]

yeah but you get excited over the most dogwater cards

[sleek ferry]

Wait, no rare cycle of lands?

[twilit canyon]

just fabled passage

[sleek ferry]

Wow, when’s the last time we didn’t get a rare cycle

[trail anvil]

maybe if you hate mythic wildcards

[sudden lava]

I never see you get excited for anything

[twilit canyon]

then you dont read this chat

[twilit canyon]

uh

didnt we not get one

wait

[sleek ferry]

I unironically have around 25ish wild cards I was saving for timeless

[twilit canyon]

did ixalan have one cycle or?

no

ixalan

ixalan was no rare lands iirc

[sudden lava]

Most excited for all the squirrel stuff 💖

[twilit canyon]

finally ready to join energy gaming

[sudden lava]

Eluge may have not been what I expected, but I'm sure someone will find a home for them

[twilit canyon]

or is there another timeless deck you have an eye out for

[sleek ferry]

Oh yeah, but ixalan had some bangers

[trail anvil]

ixalan had its land cycle as gods

[sleek ferry]

Nah it was energy or bust

I was just waiting to reach mythic in standard again, but I’ve been hard stuck diamond 2 for 2 days

[trail anvil]

wait no ixalan had creature lands @twilit canyon

[twilit canyon]

ohhh

right

[sleek ferry]

Oh wait it did

[trail anvil]

I forgot too cause everything is blending together with lands lol

[sleek ferry]

Yeah so its been a while since we didn’t have a rare land cycle

Which high key is usually one of the most exciting things about a set

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Hazel-of-the-Rootbloom-400x559.jpg

Love her art

[trail anvil]

tbh I feel like it usually guarantees something of worth

not having it here is super unfortunate

[golden plover]

Do we still have room for a rare land cycle?

[sleek ferry]

Not having it here is also a flavor fail tbh

If any plane should have been plentiful in lands its this one

[copper pecan]

the entire set takes place in a two square mile area so i feel like it makes sense there aren't a ton of lands

[golden plover]

Technically we do but they did something fucky with the land numbers this time

For some reason they're not in descending rarity order

[[Fountainport]] is 253, and [[Hidden Grotto]] is 254

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/253/fountainport

Fountainport

Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice a token: Draw a card.
, , Pay 1 life: Create a 1/1 blue Fish creature token.
, : Create a Treasure token.

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/254/hidden-grotto

Hidden Grotto

Land
When Hidden Grotto enters, surveil 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put it into your graveyard.)
: Add .
, : Add one mana of any color.

[golden plover]

The blue village is 255

Not sure what happened here

[twilit canyon]

is hidden grotto in the actual main set

it doesnt look like the main set symbol

hm

it looksl ike it

weird

[trail anvil]

oh right, do you think temur analyst is gonna be too cope? it seems way more reliant on spelunking now but at least we have fabled passage

[golden plover]

But yeah, weird the lands aren't in descending rarity order this time

Doesn't look like there's room for a rare land cycle then

[twilit canyon]

i think this is the one deck that kinda wins from fabled

still probs too cope

[trail anvil]

yeah the capenna lands were lifegain and insta sac, it genuinely mattered vs aggro

[twilit canyon]

mhm

one of the biggest losers post-rotation

the value of basics shown by that deck and its losing its best access to them

[trail anvil]

oh yeah god virtue was so nice

I miss playing that deck before it got optimized, it feels so boring now lol

maybe there will be room to re-solve it

[hidden ermine]

Tbh I doubt Bloomburrow will do worse than MKM just on theme alone

Also wait, does Bloomburrow have any insects actually?

[sudden lava]

yes

One of the tribes have them as pets, and there is a calamity beast insect

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Huskburster-Swarm-400x559.webp

[hidden ermine]

Huh

No bees however?

[sudden lava]

not that I can recall

[gritty nest]

I ordered cards

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1262974144983732314/image.png?ex=66988bd5&is=66973a55&hm=f160e2d974a68c22e43b3ee8829e6c4cb56e564889292497c58ebb504d324e52&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=400&height=420

Esika's chariot reprint in animated army?

[stark skiff]

Finally got the CatDog Procession and the Sheldon SLD in and just wanted to show off the surveil lands lol

[gritty nest]

What side of the anointed procession is better though

[stark skiff]

dont do this bro

[gritty nest]

Dog side > cat side

[trail anvil]

these decks in explorer showcase are so weird

obviously they do that thing of subpar decklists but man some of these cards feel terrible

azorius control for some reason is just the standard deck, does monogreen devotion actually run leyline of the guildpact wtf?

wait it's legitimately to add fucking devotion omg

somehow went 3-0 with standard azorius control

[stark skiff]

omg nice to see Satoru. I literally have most of it but just havent built it lol.

[zinc shard]

This art is craaaaazy

[stark skiff]

oh nice reprint

[trail anvil]

damn that art really does fuck

[lusty trench]

Gitrog has been in the goop again

[golden plover]

Is this the first time the same artist has done the same character in two arts?

Nils Hamm also did [[The Gitrog Monster|PJ22]]

[lost widget]

No card found named “The Gitrog Monster” in “pj22”

[golden plover]

[[The Gitrog Monster|PJ21]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/pj21/5/the-gitrog-monster

The Gitrog Monster <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Frog Horror
Deathtouch
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice The Gitrog Monster unless you sacrifice a land.
You may play an additional land on each of your turns.
Whenever one or more land cards are put into your graveyard from anywhere, draw a card.
6/6

[golden plover]

Yeah this is just for 4 devotion lmao

[sleek ferry]

I kinda like this actually

[granite badge]

Oh this is cute because they draw before they reveal their hand

[golden plover]

Oh I like that

Wish it was instant speed or 1 mana but it's not bad

Actually 1 mana would have been insane

But 1B would have been nice

[lusty trench]

I think instant speed would’ve made it good but it’s that gap between 1 and 2 mana that’s huge

[fallow citrus]

I think it's fine for 2 mana

although this is where gift being kicker would be good

because it's a really good thoughtseize

and then it gets even better if you could add a mana to also let you cast it

[golden plover]

The gift is actually an upside here

Sure they draw to replace but you're looking at their top deck too

And you can play the card

They draw before you rip

[fallow citrus]

I don't think the upside is that great

sure you look at their top deck but they also.. have a new top deck

[sudden lava]

https://media.wizards.com/2024/images/daily/9bdb642e17.jpg

Later today 😄

[sudden lava]

Could be better (an instant) but this is neat politically because of the gift but also because you can work with another ally to cast something that harms the enemy of the table.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1263147933906239630/image.png?ex=66992daf&is=6697dc2f&hm=9dc99f70f2177b9e7518f14b574fcc7be4a429afe1c2b177d33b6867cb4fa9d8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=621&height=544

http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Beast-Binder-2.jpg

That rat is cute

[golden plover]

I'm exclusively evaluating gifts in 1v1 where they're designed for

"You can gift a different player" in commander is irrelevant

[glad peak]

Woh that’s a lot of words for a cube all star

[lusty trench]

Sonar strike gaining 3 life kinda funky

[golden plover]

Sonar Strike is very good in draft

Also you probably unironically take agate blade for bats too

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/rgb2xowng3dd1.png?auto=webp&s=572e2a00c6ecc4f61ea3ae26df78154c41ca6d0a

Interesting card

With... Disturbing art

https://preview.redd.it/aj5qdyvyg3dd1.png?auto=webp&s=405101608c6505f11243647fd4daf2f3996c6140

This art FUCKS

But this card... SUCKS

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSs8ooPWAAMJh50?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSs8ompWAAIYBPw?format=jpg&name=medium

[golden plover]

For 1 mana, that talent isn't that bad

Not constructed playable

But obligatory good in draft

https://www.ign.com/articles/magic-the-gathering-onlin3-vintage-cube-tournament-black-lotus-prize-pool

Wait how do I qualify for this

I wanna raredraft lmao

[rigid scarab]

With all due respect we both know that 1v1 wasn't the initial intention for gifting

[copper pecan]

they said it was

[stark skiff]

haha this is neat

[copper pecan]

the inspiration was kicker but backwards

[golden plover]

I mean it's also totally designed that way for commander

But "you can gift a player who isn't the target" is a nothing response to every gift card

[sudden lava]

https://x.com/MTGSecretLair/status/1813621534071701849

MTG Secret Lair (@MTGSecretLair) on X

Expand your mind and your deck with Secret Lair x Brain Dead: Creatures, part of the Inside an Elevator superdrop available starting July 29!

Twitter · Jul 17, 2024, 5:07 PM

[stark skiff]

boo no Miku no care

[lusty trench]

Whatnot streamers are opening bloomburrow

[stark skiff]

value

[lusty trench]

Almost made it to the official spoiler date

Almost

[sudden lava]

still least leaked set

oh this is from the precon even

[lusty trench]

Introducing the actual worst card I've seen in my life

[stark skiff]

lol thats pretty funny

pretty much make a deal to take someone out

[golden plover]

Wow that SUCKS

[sudden lava]

there is the fire wolf ❤️

Also omg the new sword and Acorn Gang 😍

[trail anvil]

why is this 6 mana??

[golden plover]

Yeah I'd like it at like 4 mana and 2 birds

But at 6, there's no way

[trail anvil]

I disagree tbh, I think there are arguments for including it. 1 less toughness than swiftspear and vulnerability to bounce spells, but more modes for the lategame

[golden plover]

I'm kinda more on it being tolerable rn

[trail anvil]

spellgyre is also just a really fuckin good card? I'm pretty sure you just instantly run this in control

[golden plover]

I just kinda wish it cost 1 less to get to the second mode

[trail anvil]

if it did I think you run it instantly

oh wait this has no haste too lmao

hm

this feels like faerie raffine all over again

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1125148508920479744/1263196148965969920/ulmwqf1dd4dd1.png?ex=66995a96&is=66980916&hm=e43a2a9c46b1ed38c3e1df0480375d497c535705d87f85c079f60a1cd239d9be&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=387&height=544

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1125148508920479744/1263196148563443923/e7zz1g1mc4dd1.png?ex=66995a96&is=66980916&hm=c167e55848dc73d9299d14b9e21c6c9c94c0c5b8ca33325b3fdc3770a81c978c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=390&height=543

[trail anvil]

if monoblack is still somehow a thing this is nice as hell

you probably still run this in golgari tho

[trail anvil]

nice commander card

[twilit canyon]

the only time swift is bad is if you have literally 0 noncreatures left

the late game modes are just way too expensive here

[golden plover]

Wildfire Howl is genuinely a very good card tbh

Really good rate for a chump sweeper

And the gift is a nice bonus if you wanna kill something with 3 toughness

[trail anvil]

aren't chump sweepers usually instants tho

[golden plover]

Oh it's a sorcery yeah

That makes it a bit worse

[trail anvil]

I missed it didn't have haste, it's much worse

tbh idk why they made it a sorcery at all

[golden plover]

I guess the closest comparison in standard is [[End the Festivities]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/155/end-the-festivities

End the Festivities <:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
End the Festivities deals 1 damage to each opponent and each creature and planeswalker they control.
When the defenses around Lurenbraum Fortress faltered, the Crimson Ballroom received some unexpected guests.

[golden plover]

And this does double the damage

This is also a sorcery tho

[trail anvil]

it's also 1 mana

[stark skiff]

wow card draw for green neat

[sudden lava]

BIG CHUNGUS

Also 😍 ||SCURRY|| IS SO CUTE!

[stark skiff]

double myriad

[golden plover]

I kinda hate Jacked Rabbit

Dude looks weird as hell

[copper pecan]

big chungus magic the gathering real???

[sudden lava]

Called Arthur's colors

[twilit canyon]

a lot of art this set looks weird

[golden plover]

Oh good, Rolling Hamsphere is unplayable in Legaxy

[trail anvil]

I like how he canonically fucks more the more jacked he is

[golden plover]

The concern for any new Hamster card is that it breaks Legacy

[twilit canyon]

too many actual animals doing human things feels uncanny. its basically like a furry paint job

[golden plover]

See a lot of it isn't really furry

They don't have people proportions

[twilit canyon]

it doesnt feel like the world is adapted to their animal biologu

no ik its not furry furry

i meant in the literal sense

[sudden lava]

Ok flavor win on the ||double Myriad squirrel.
Scurry not only means a group of squirrels (like what myriad does), but it's specifically a scout so it's moving quickly ||

[trail anvil]

it's still furry, just on a different part of the scale

[twilit canyon]

like

[trail anvil]

I fuck with communal brewing hard

[twilit canyon]

they still use and stand around like people for the most part

[trail anvil]

this card slaps

goes straight into gluntch

[golden plover]

I'm just really glad the hamster card is ass

[twilit canyon]

the hamster hater has logged on

[golden plover]

Funny how of all creature types, Hamster is the one that's the most controversial in legacy

[golden plover]

If any new Hamster card is good, [[Minsc and Boo, Timeless Heroes]] goes from "best planeswalker ever printed" to "ridiculously busted card"

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/285/minsc-&-boo-timeless-heroes

Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Planeswalker — Minsc
When Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes enters the battlefield and at the beginning of your upkeep, you may create Boo, a legendary 1/1 red Hamster creature token with trample and haste.
+1: Put three +1/+1 counters on up to one target creature with trample or haste.
−2: Sacrifice a creature. When you do, Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes deals X damage to any target, where X is that creature's power. If the sacrificed creature was a Hamster, draw X cards.
Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes can be your commander.
Loyalty: 3

[lusty trench]

This mf really said fuck your treasures

[twilit canyon]

wait

[trail anvil]

it's a myr battlesphere vehicle

[twilit canyon]

thats actually a solid anti-token piece

[golden plover]

Oh Bloodroot is REALLY good

[twilit canyon]

needs to die before any dockside shenanigans go on

[trail anvil]

wait hello?? lmao

[golden plover]

Can you get your dockside kill off 9 treasures?

[twilit canyon]

less

2 poison counters

means you only have 4 treasure sacks

[golden plover]

Oh it's two

Yeah that's crazy

[twilit canyon]

blocks tymna too

[golden plover]

You've gotta get rid of it and get to your kill in 4 treasure

[gritty nest]

What the fuck, I love this

[trail anvil]

it's a good stax piece

[sleek ferry]

in the color that needed it too

[golden plover]

I mean, less so stax and more so treasure hate

[gritty nest]

My food deck both loves and hates this card

[golden plover]

Oh it's not symmetrical either

Best card in the commander decks

[trail anvil]

am I using the term wrong, I figured stax is just stuff that slows the game down by preventing actions which this effectively does

[twilit canyon]

stax/hate decks used to pray for times like this

[golden plover]

Stax is preventing specific actions, yeah

[gritty nest]

Is bloodroot guaranteed to be in the squirrel precon or is it another “commander only card but only in packs” thing

[golden plover]

But you wouldn't play a stax card that prevents only a super niche action

[lusty trench]

I’d assume guaranteed

[trail anvil]

I'm not sure I'd call treasure a niche action but idk

[glad peak]

It’s a random screw Magda in particular lol

[golden plover]

I mean, it's not niche now

But the idea of noncreature tokens being relevant is kinda niche outside of like cedh

[stark skiff]

[twilit canyon]

got any more them pixels

[lusty trench]

Best I got

[golden plover]

It also hates Elsha

Our primary play line is dockside bouncing sometimes

[gritty nest]

It makes me both love and hate the card, since I play token decks

[sudden lava]

I love this I love this I love this

[gritty nest]

Sam and Frodo, third doctor Dan Lewis

[trail anvil]

man bloomburrow really was a commander set

[sudden lava]

As much as I like this one player at locals (who always ends up in my pod), his infect deck can get a tad annoying

[trail anvil]

these expend cards fuck super hard

[gritty nest]

The best kind of removal is player removal

[sudden lava]

and if I can use his poison to my advantage? Yeah Im going to

[twilit canyon]

if your opponent dies with 6+ cards in hand

you went +6

[last glen]

Calamity of Cinders seems kinda plausible as an asymmetrical sweeper
I guess the decks that this would be good against would already be tapped out on your turn though

[twilit canyon]

its not that great yeah

[trail anvil]

sounds like a good way to punish a pod that won't attack

[twilit canyon]

that's slicer's job

[gritty nest]

I tried building a goad deck to solve that issue

They were not fun

[trail anvil]

I love goad tbh

[gritty nest]

At first I built Thantis, then The Rani

[trail anvil]

I love thantis too

have you tried kardur?

[twilit canyon]

build slicer. the reason goad decks suck is bc they often just need bad cards. slicer can instead be a bunch of good cards

[trail anvil]

there's also [[nell borca, impulsive accuser]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/52/nelly-borca-impulsive-accuser

Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Detective
Vigilance
Whenever Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser attacks, suspect target creature. Then goad all suspected creatures. (A suspected creature has menace and can't block.)
Whenever one or more creatures an opponent controls deal combat damage to one or more of your opponents, you and the controller of those creatures each draw a card.
2/4

[sudden lava]

||Swarmyard Massacre is a reference, it's types are exactly swarmyard's types||

[gritty nest]

I have not

Here one second

I don’t have the decklists anymore Nevermind

I figured Rani would be better because Thantis could easily turn into “everyone could just swing at me and it wouldn’t matter”

[[thantis, the warweaver]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/46/thantis-the-warweaver

Thantis, the Warweaver <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Spider
Vigilance, reach
All creatures attack each combat if able.
Whenever a creature attacks you or a planeswalker you control, put a +1/+1 counter on Thantis, the Warweaver.
She spins a web few can resist. Its sweet aroma sparks chaos in every heart.
5/5

[trail anvil]

what I like about her is she forces people to figure out what's a good attack

otherwise people will sit on their hands for 30 minutes as boards grow unchecked

[gritty nest]

That’s fair

[[slicer, hired muscle]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/bot/6/slicer-hired-muscle-slicer-high-speed-antagonist

Slicer, Hired Muscle <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Robot
More Than Meets the Eye (You may cast this card converted for .)
Double strike, haste
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, you may have that player gain control of Slicer until end of turn. If you do, untap Slicer, goad it, and it can't be sacrificed this turn. If you don't, convert it.
3/4

Slicer, High-Speed Antagonist
Legendary Artifact — Vehicle
Living metal (As long as it's your turn, this Vehicle is also a creature.)
First strike, haste
Whenever Slicer deals combat damage to a player, convert it at end of combat.
3/2

[gritty nest]

Slicer is just mono red Voltron?

[twilit canyon]

or just disruption

[gritty nest]

I see

[trail anvil]

he just puts a hard clock on the game

[twilit canyon]

give him flying and you're golden

[gritty nest]

I’m guessing doing goad strategies also take a bit of skill/luck as well, and isn’t just as simple as “play these 4 cards they synergize hard and make me out value”

[twilit canyon]

part of it also requires opponents knowing what to do with them

[gritty nest]

True

I could try rebuilding thantis maybe, out of all of them, because at least with Thantis I don’t have to swing with her to get her to do what I want, she just does it

Rani and Nelly Borca have to attack to continue goading

[twilit canyon]

the problem with thantis is how much mana needed to cast it

6 is a fuckload

[gritty nest]

True, and the only saving grace is green

Which even then partially mitigates that

[twilit canyon]

hard to cast off jeweled lotus too

[trail anvil]

thantis is by no means meta but is really fun when you can land it lmao

[gritty nest]

I probably wouldn’t have jeweled lotus in the deck

I don’t have fast mana at all lol

[twilit canyon]

i think jeweled is mandatory for p much any commander deck that wants to cast their commander at all

and isnt 4c

like breya

or wubrg casting cost

[gritty nest]

Most of the people I play against play creature based win cons and never swing until they can out power the table

[trail anvil]

you have a strong play group misty lol

[twilit canyon]

well i only play cedh

[gritty nest]

How much is the cheapest jeweled lotus

[twilit canyon]

[[$jeweled lotus]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/396/jeweled-lotus

Prices for Jeweled Lotus

Commander Masters

$94.76 • €83.63 • 17.49 TIX

Commander Masters

$160.70 • 13.26 TIX

Commander Masters

$129.44 • €122.90 • 13.70 TIX

Commander Masters

$579.82 • €478.40

Magic Online Promos

13.14 TIX

Commander Legends

$90.32 • €84.71 • 13.47 TIX

Commander Legends

$124.65 • €99.92

[twilit canyon]

90

you can probs get one for 80 or even 70

just gotta know where to look

[trail anvil]

yeah that's exactly why I like strategies like these tbh

[gritty nest]

I could afford the foil etched but I don’t need it tbh

Well technically yes you do need it

But if you’re not commander reliant in certain decks I feel it’s like

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[trail anvil]

I'd say you need it if your whole table has it

and/or if you're playing cedh

[twilit canyon]

not all cedh runs it of course

[stark skiff]

can i have your textured foil one

[twilit canyon]

no

[stark skiff]

[gritty nest]

I’ve only played against one person who used fast mana tbh

I’m going to buy the fast mana, duals etc for collection but idk

[trail anvil]

time to buy saskia to take them out first /s

[golden plover]

There's also [[Alexios, Cult of Deimos]] or whatever from AC

[lost widget]

No card found for “Alexios, Cult of Deimos”

[golden plover]

[[Alexios, Deimos of Kosmos]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/acr/33/alexios-deimos-of-kosmos

Alexios, Deimos of Kosmos <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Berserker
Trample
Alexios, Deimos of Kosmos attacks each combat if able, can't be sacrificed, and can't attack its owner.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player gains control of Alexios, untaps it, and puts a +1/+1 counter on it. It gains haste until end of turn.
4/4

[golden plover]

I'm pretty sold on him coming for Slicer's job

It's too early to tell, but you trade coming down at 1 more mana for him not being able to hit you

And you lose double strike, but trade it for guaranteed damage

[trail anvil]

I lost to that last night but misty pointed out that he's way worse than he first seems since the attacker gets to assign trample damage as they choose

so you can just assign all the damage onto the chump blocker

[stark skiff]

lol there was a mtggoldfish video with someone using that as commander and comments just shit on them for not knowing this

[golden plover]

Oh true. I didn't remember that you could do that

[trail anvil]

I didn't think about that either tbh, if she didn't point it out I never would've lol

[golden plover]

That's kinda lame tbh. It's a very niche interaction that's not very intuitive

[trail anvil]

I feel like it's just rarely something that comes up

[golden plover]

The logic of trample is "extra damage goes to them" which is simple and makes sense

But the "you can assign all the damage to a blocker" interaction is... Weird

[stark skiff]

meh i still find the death touch/trample interaction weird

[trail anvil]

it's pretty intuitive I'd say. you just assign lethal then deal the rest

[sudden lava]

courageous critter reprint

[stark skiff]

i know how it works i just dont like how it works haha

[sudden lava]

for the animated army deck

[trail anvil]

I think it's strong, but I like how it works

[gritty nest]

Doesn’t goad from slicer do the same thing?

[golden plover]

Not in the 1v1

When it's down to you and them, slicer can hit you

Alexios can't

[gritty nest]

Oh true

I’m building Alexios “swing for once in your fucking life” deck then

[golden plover]

I don't think he's bad, and he might still be better than Slicer

But that trample interaction sucks

[gritty nest]

You can find ways around it I feel

Does double strike work to get around?

[sudden lava]

Wildsear leak part 2 (Now with the mana cost not covered)

REPRINT (Courageous critter) for black/green and it's exactly who you think

[golden plover]

Wow I kinda hate these

[gritty nest]

I hate all of them

[fallow citrus]

wtf is the theme for this

[gritty nest]

Regrettable tattoos?

[golden plover]

Some art group

Brain Dead?

But at least the mschf ones were pretty

Like the mschf blood Moon is my favorite printing of the card

[twilit canyon]

the art itself is pretty decent but the borders

those are easily the ugliest borders they have ever done

[golden plover]

Huge quality difference

[fallow citrus]

idk why but like

the type line on the greaves immediately made me think of OG deus ex

but ig it's more like cruelty squad

[golden plover]

Yeah. This is the lair for cruelty squad fans

[sudden lava]

Grouphug secondary commander

[golden plover]

Also, I kinda wish they weren't actually pictures of tattoos

The ones from the tattoo SL looked way better

[lusty trench]

Fantastic mr fox?

[trail anvil]

ik this one was already posted, but this seems nice for orzhov lifegain. the deck isn't high tier obviously, but I think it's runnable

[lusty trench]

FELLAS

[trail anvil]

storm crow generator
outjerked again

[lusty trench]

Pollywog prodigy is strong

[trail anvil]

it seems crazy strong ye

[golden plover]

Storm crow storm lmao

[sudden lava]

the storm crow generator

[granite badge]

wtf

[gritty nest]

Which version of Alexios do I get, regular, showcase, or foil etched

[lusty trench]

Get showcase

[gritty nest]

Best art?

[lusty trench]

Ye

[gritty nest]

You’re not wrong

[golden plover]

You can also kinda just pretend he's some random Theros guy

[copper pecan]

i really dislike the asscreed frame

i don't like to say things like "this doesn't feel like mtg" but this is the only showcase frame i've seen that genuinely doesn't feel like mtg to me

something about it feels extremely strange in a way i can't describe

[golden plover]

It really looks like some random IP TCG that'd get 3 sets and die

Which it kinda is considering it's getting 1 set that's probably the worst set of the year

[golden plover]

The obligatory Torbhan of the set

He's fine

Oh apparently there's a main set Hamster too

Guess there's another chance something breaks Legacy

[gritty nest]

Where’s the lizard wizard

[copper pecan]

[[viashino pyromancer]] my beloved

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m19/166/viashino-pyromancer

Viashino Pyromancer <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Lizard Wizard
When Viashino Pyromancer enters the battlefield, it deals 2 damage to target player or planeswalker.
"I trained with the Ghitu, and I respect the fire as they do."
2/1

[trail anvil]

perfect type line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6mbY085onE

[copper pecan]

the kuka beyo guy has returned to r/custommagic

[lusty trench]

Your maximum hand size is twenty

Whenever you attack with two or more creatures, put a +1/+1 counter on ~ and draw a card.

Whenever ~ attacks, you win the game if there are twenty or more counters on it or you have twenty or more cards in hand.

[copper pecan]

that sure is an alt wincon

not as good as sebi gyandu tho

[gritty nest]

I was tasked with building a pauper EDH deck

Help

[twilit canyon]

pauper edh is pretty fun

im mostly unfamiliar with pedh but im sure u can get resources for it

[gritty nest]

Honest Rutstein, Cactusfolk Sureshot, “Kraum, Violent Cacophony”, Wispdrinker Vampire, “Queza, Augur of Agonies” these are some quick commanders I thought of

[twilit canyon]

the new mh3 commander in common is actually quite good

[gritty nest]

Who?

[lusty trench]

?

[twilit canyon]

skoa yeah

pauper burn

[gritty nest]

Huh, I thought the commander had to be uncommon

[twilit canyon]

could be common

[lusty trench]

I could probably make my shirei deck pedh

Both carrion feeder and vecera seer are common so ig it could work

Issue is how to close a game without access to blood artist effects

[gritty nest]

How about this?

16 options total

[stark skiff]

wow this is way better than the face lol

[stark skiff]

Mr. House

[sudden lava]

Voltron Fox

Just unload your hand, and then swing with him to refill

[trail anvil]

spoiler ||rip, he doesn't do anything. it seemed like he actually had the precon lol||

[stark skiff]

lmao havent watched but i figured

had hope

[gritty nest]

There’s 28 options actually with changelings

[gritty nest]

I also realized

Alexios is uncommon

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1263278390845247529/image.png?ex=6699a72e&is=669855ae&hm=fb5b084157bf1ba888157564f4be4600fe07daac83a17618e63484998c8b4619&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=560&height=544

L food token

[trail anvil]

what makes it an L

[sudden lava]

Should've been an acorn and the art feels really meh to me

[trail anvil]

that's racist

are you telling me the strawberry that's practically the size of the bowl isn't cool

[sudden lava]

I'm not saying it is AI, but it looks kinda AI to me. Looks like my squirrels are gonna be feasting on gummy candy

[gritty nest]

It’s a feast for animals

Huge W

[sudden lava]

and fish fingers & custard

[gritty nest]

You’re also looking at a picture with countable pixels and not the actual art

[sudden lava]

Fair, maybe it will look better when its not an Amazon screenshot

[gritty nest]

Only time will tell

[sudden lava]

The squirrel token could also look better

[stark skiff]

fuck i wasnt gonna get this precon but now i might since he is also in azorious colors

[sudden lava]

Embrace the smashy grouphug

[stark skiff]

i embrace the value engine

btw can i get some advice on what to potentially cut if anything for this Altair commander deck I made. Trying to make room for like 4 cards but i just dont know what to drop lol

[pulsar talon]

Chat

[golden plover]

That squirrel token is awesome

[pulsar talon]

Is anything relevant for atraxa rotating out in standard?

[golden plover]

It's like the cool WOE beast token

[stark skiff]

Just trying to squeeze Anointed Procession, Thrilling Discovery, Helm of the Host, and maybe Highway Robbery.

[stark skiff]

i think they have way better ones already lol

[golden plover]

Love this token

[golden plover]

They only use the MH one and a few others

Unstable

MH

Secret Lair (the best one)

Unfinity

[sudden lava]

SL one is expensive

[gritty nest]

Aren’t you copying legendary creatures?

[golden plover]

And the fallout one

This is the best one

[gritty nest]

Unfinity and SL tie for best imo

[stark skiff]

yeah these are the ones i had in mind. Unstable is neat too

[stark skiff]

no just generic assassins

[gritty nest]

Ah

[stark skiff]

some are legendary tho

[gritty nest]

I was confused about anointed

[stark skiff]

just extra ETBs off the generic ones

[gritty nest]

Helm of the host feels like winmore personally as well

[stark skiff]

more attacks

[sudden lava]

I got a lot of the MH one (but with a different border)

I like that one the most cuz it looks like the squirrel is about to jump you

[stark skiff]

yeah i might not include it was aiming more for Anointed and Thrilling Discovery to draw more and dump cards in gy

[gritty nest]

[[Thrilling discovery]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/245/thrilling-discovery

Thrilling Discovery <:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
You gain 2 life. Then you may discard two cards. If you do, draw three cards.
"This must be the lost city of Zantafar, where my people lived before becoming nomads. Think of the history we'll learn here!" —Quintorius, Lorehold mage-student

[gritty nest]

I like that

[sudden lava]

The fallout squirrels are too radiated for my liking

I like the unfinity one and the SL shiny one, but the MH art has the perfect balance of ferocious and cute

(and the SL one is expensive)

https://youtu.be/yvnVMUmz5fM

[stark skiff]

just need one for Form of the Squirrel

[golden plover]

Yeah fallout isn't my favorite

I meant the new one is the best

[sudden lava]

this one is really cute

[trail anvil]

pls

some people are pushing the idea of [[seasoned warrenguard]] as a white aggro card

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/30/seasoned-warrenguard

Seasoned Warrenguard <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Rabbit Warrior
Whenever Seasoned Warrenguard attacks while you control a token, Seasoned Warrenguard gets +2/+0 until end of turn.
Never underestimate what a rabbit can do with a root vegetable and some moxie.
1/2

[trail anvil]

I feel like if you're reliably making tokens the t2 3/2 could be something

[lusty trench]

There's carrot cake but that feels too bad for aggro

[stark skiff]

btw komi do you still have the ono list just wanna compare really quickly and make sure i didnt miss anything

[lusty trench]

Theres also the builders talent class but that makes a wall so exact opposite of what you want

[trail anvil]

https://archidekt.com/decks/8075038/edh_omo_no_budget

I've seen novice investigator as an obvious one but maybe it needs more thought

there was some other card I wanted to add to this but I can't remember what it was

I imagine some bloomburrow card will fit fantastic in here cause of all the typal support tho

@stark skiff what does your list look like rn?

[stark skiff]

Ah I just headed out but pretty much the same. Robe of the Archmagi and draw power like Remora and Rhystic is what I notice right away. Added some more counters just to keep Omo alive

Oh Myr Galvanizer as well

I can send a list later on today lol

[golden plover]

Dude what the fuck are you doing

GG

Oh lmao forgot Atraxa had lifelink

[sleek ferry]

Oh just remembered

Slogurk is rotating out

As are channel lands

Are legend decks dead due to this?

[gritty nest]

Would you call Ulalek 6 color or 5 colorless

[trail anvil]

I call him spicy colorless

[trail anvil]

the 4c deck needs to find a new combo but legends as a whole might be fine as a value pile

[gritty nest]

I say 5 colorless because it’s funny

[stark skiff]

Jimmy always makes the Sam/Frodo deck look fun. He's used it a few times on other shows. Might be time to finally build one lol.

[lusty trench]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/s/MwzeNiYRrL

[lusty trench]

Someone ping me when the bloomburrow deck lists come out as they come out pls

[golden plover]

Oh no

[glad peak]

Seems like it’s a good person who happened to work for blizzard for a short time? Idk that’s what I got from the comments

[lusty trench]

The toxic squirrel isn’t in the squirrel deck, it’s in group hug

Tcg player straight up did not reveal the full deck list for the jeskai deck

So we’re gonna have to wait for wotc to post it

[sleek ferry]

2 mana 2/3… this is just a must in draft no?

[lusty trench]

I’m still kinda shocked how does a company as big as tcg player fuck up a deck reveal

[golden plover]

Love this trend of commander staples getting plane specific reprints

[lusty trench]

Animated army is the most confused deck I've seen wotc make

It tries to do everything, artifacts, enchantments, creatures, lands, and is just bad at it

[golden plover]

Would

[lusty trench]

Fantastic Mr fox

[golden plover]

Why's he way more furry than half the plane tbh

[lusty trench]

Because most of the plane is cute smaller animals

Even the lizards are the small sorts

[golden plover]

Yeah true, he's just way more anthropomorphic

Interesting

It's a reprint from DnD, but in universe

[lusty trench]

There are dogs on bloom burrow?

Or is this zendikar and just reprinted here for some reason

Yeah that's a hedron

[golden plover]

It's Zendikar

It's an in-universe art

Wait @lusty trench wanna see something really weird

[lusty trench]

Sure

[golden plover]

Second new Boros Signet art in 3 sets

[lusty trench]

Boring ahh art too

[golden plover]

No clue why

Because the artist for the card did art this set

It's not like they dropped him

If it was a bloomburrow themed art maybe

But it's Boros Boros

[lusty trench]

Damn the reprints this time around are super lacking

[golden plover]

Neat art

I like how they used the sunflower to represent her angel wing

[hidden ermine]

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/wyodcprbnadd1.png?auto=webp&s=17f9ec2601ac38e6ae1dcb78de21a41ba898e97a

Legacy continues to be safe

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSyGZpYakAExsiW?format=png&name=900x900

love

[sudden lava]

Oh huh, interesting

[golden plover]

@lusty trench

[lusty trench]

Yeeeees dogshit cards are healing

[golden plover]

Honestly? We need more dogshit cards in the game

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1125148508920479744/1263513280069107803/image.png?ex=669a81f0&is=66993070&hm=4cac260bd0834bff8fddd8484f02845b9589562f2af9b665fedfa224c903a371&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=400&height=544

[twilit canyon]

lo and behold

more dogshit cards

[golden plover]

I like the double replacement effect

That's funny

https://preview.redd.it/iir5pzq5madd1.png?auto=webp&s=46fcebca00deeeceb3fc83e117260c340957485b

This is decent actually

It's 5 mana for 11/11 in 2 bodies, with the downside that your opponent gets one too

[twilit canyon]

its 5 mana

[golden plover]

Yeah, corrected

But the effect isn't bad alone if you're in a deck making tokens/against decks that are

It's not like broken or anything

[twilit canyon]

target creature token kills it imo

[golden plover]

But "you and the worst player get an 8/8" + some upside for 5 isn't bad

The chaos warp art must be different per precon then

Since the one they showed on stream was new Capenna

[lusty trench]

“I’ve grown tired of theses weary ass woods, magic portal, send my ass to night city”

[golden plover]

Wait wtf

Chaos Warp is only in the one precon

Where's this New Capenna art then

[lusty trench]

Early art that got changed and then accidentally used?

[golden plover]

Maybe?

Weird they completely changed the plane then?

[lusty trench]

Maybe the increased dichotomy of woodlands to future city fuelled the change?

[golden plover]

Could be

Strange either way tho

[lusty trench]

Command zone is taking a while to post the squirrels list

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiWC5D6xtlw

[golden plover]

Wish this was Imperious Bloodlord instead

[sleek ferry]

I might get this secret lair

It’s nice

I would imagine the bonus card is something nuts too

[lusty trench]

Squirrel deck is easily best of the bunch

[golden plover]

Full lair

It's honestly impressive that they picked the least played version of every walker in here

Well except Kiora

[twilit canyon]

golgari queen is still the best vraska walker lol

[golden plover]

True, but she's 0 for like 5 on good walkers

[twilit canyon]

lol

yeah

[golden plover]

Her Ixalan one and Golgari Queen both saw a bit of play in their respective standards

But that was because there was a lack of other options

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkwO1W3YU6Q&ab_channel=TheCommandZone

[lusty trench]

It’s so far and away the best deck of the bunch

[golden plover]

I've also been on record in the past in saying Master of the Bridge should have "can be your commander" on him

He'd be super fun as a commander

[sudden lava]

17 dollar reprint

[last glen]

How long does Regenerate last

[golden plover]

Nice this card has a non-unfinity print now

[sudden lava]

for your token sacrificing pleasure

[lusty trench]

For the turn

Wotc not putting decree of pain or angel of the ruins in a precon challenge

[trail anvil]

oh thank fuck

[gritty nest]

Is the full precon out or still being shown?

[trail anvil]

wanted to play this in omo but couldn't justify the price tag

squirrels are revealed in full

that's the one posted above

[lusty trench]

All decks are revealed

In terms of value squirrels>gruul pile>group hug>jeskai

[granite badge]

are afk bots a thing in arena

this guy has done nothing for 2 whole turns

[twilit canyon]

probs dc'd

[granite badge]

I think I just dc'd from my next game

took 1:12 to get a game and it immediately kicked me

[sleek ferry]

Non ranked standard is usually dead right before rotation

There’s nothing new to test, no events to get ready for

[lusty trench]

“Huh I wonder why they didn’t reprint deranged hermit”
-reserved list-
Ah

[golden plover]

Yeah Deranged Hermit isn't eligible

[gritty nest]

Did someone ask that?

Or are you just making a meme remark

[golden plover]

I assume Jot just forgot it was RL

But I do remember Summer or someone saying they thought it'd be in the deck

[gritty nest]

I think it was summer

[golden plover]

I remember having to discuss the reserved list relating to this specific card in the past

Also even if it wasn't RL, it's a $100 card. No shot they wouldn't put it in a masters set

[gritty nest]

or secret lair reprint once and left at that

[glad peak]

Oh hey I remember playing that in penny dreadful

[gritty nest]

What’s that

[glad peak]

Modo format where each season there’s a screenshot of card prices and you can only play cards from 0.02 tickets and lower

[gritty nest]

That sounds like hell

[copper pecan]

it's sometimes based as fuck but other times channel is legal and the format goes to shit for a few months

[golden plover]

Decks get interesting because you basically only get to play commons and bad cards

And yeah, Channel and Fireball rotate in and out

So sometimes channel fireball is a legal combo

Right now the best deck is a control deck running stuff like [[Timeless Dragon]], [[Jace, Memory Adept]], and [[Mu Yanling]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/35/timeless-dragon

Timeless Dragon <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Dragon
Flying
Plainscycling (, Discard this card: Search your library for a Plains card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.)
Eternalize (, Exile this card from your graveyard: Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie Dragon with no mana cost. Eternalize only as a sorcery.)
5/5

https://scryfall.com/card/m14/60/jace-memory-adept

Jace, Memory Adept <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Jace
+1: Draw a card. Target player mills a card.
0: Target player mills ten cards.
−7: Any number of target players each draw twenty cards.
Loyalty: 4

https://scryfall.com/card/gs1/1/mu-yanling

Mu Yanling <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Yanling
+2: Target creature can't be blocked this turn.
−3: Draw two cards.
−10: Tap all creatures your opponents control. You take an extra turn after this one.
Loyalty: 5

[copper pecan]

can't believe mu yanling is seeing play somewhere

especially when they designed the card specifically with the intention that nobody would use it

[glad peak]

My favorite season was when turn 2 sire of insanity reanimator and turn skip nightmare was legal but rakdos midrange was the best deck

Timeless dragon carries hard

[golden plover]

There's a Golgari [[Gyruda]] deck that looks fun as hell too

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/iko/221/gyruda-doom-of-depths

Gyruda, Doom of Depths <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaub:292901509056692224><:manaub:292901509056692224>

Legendary Creature — Demon Kraken
Companion — Your starting deck contains only cards with even mana values. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for as a sorcery.)
When Gyruda enters the battlefield, each player mills four cards. Put a creature card with an even mana value from among the milled cards onto the battlefield under your control.
6/6

[gritty nest]

I could see Mu Yanling in my guff deck

If I didn’t have better options

Can you have partner commanders and a companion?

[golden plover]

Deck is weird. It runs 1 Gyruda in the board and 3 in the main

[golden plover]

Yeah no reason you can't

[gritty nest]

I wasn’t sure if it was possible

But it would be kinda funny

[golden plover]

I had a friend who did Sakashima Vial Smasher with the Rakdos Companion for a bit

[glad peak]

4c Lurrus is a legit deck

[gritty nest]

Fair enough

[glad peak]

Stranger things combo

[trail anvil]

didn't deranged hermit get a powercrept version printed anyways

in modern horizons

[gritty nest]

Idk

[lusty trench]

It did but it’d be nice to have both

[fallow citrus]

[[deranged hermit]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vma/202/deranged-hermit

Deranged Hermit <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elf
Echo (At the beginning of your upkeep, if this came under your control since the beginning of your last upkeep, sacrifice it unless you pay its echo cost.)
When Deranged Hermit enters the battlefield, create four 1/1 green Squirrel creature tokens.
Squirrel creatures get +1/+1.
1/1

[stark skiff]

Meh the SLD of this is better

[stark skiff]

lol i have it in mine

[sudden lava]

full precon list is out

[gritty nest]

I saw, but thank you

[golden plover]

Oh I just realized this is new art

Ngl, thank God

[[Swarmyard|TSR]] is kinda gross

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/284/swarmyard

Swarmyard

Land
: Add .
: Regenerate target Insect, Rat, Spider, or Squirrel. (The next time it would be destroyed, instead tap it, remove it from combat, and heal all damage on it.)
Where scavengers nest in hollowed-out rib cages and chittering crawlers peer from empty eye sockets, few dare to trespass.

[golden plover]

Too many maggots and exposed gore for my liking

[golden plover]

So for no reason in particular I'm building "cedh" Mr foxglove. What do we add here?

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/qbIxTrmf5k2CG02P4MTKIA

This is just a starting point

I'm using Derevi until he's on moxfield

(I know Derevi is the better commander)

I guess we do stax and sometimes cheat out Avacyn

[stark skiff]

SLD is best one

[golden plover]

It really is

[gritty nest]

Bloomburrow is now fully spoiled right?

[golden plover]

I think so

[stark skiff]

this the savior of magic set? wild

[twilit canyon]

its the failure of magic set

[golden plover]

I don't think it's that bad

It's 100x better than MKM

It's not even the worst set this quarter since AC came out

[copper pecan]

are people saying it's bad?

it seems like a pretty good set to me

[golden plover]

I've only really seen Misty say it's bad

[copper pecan]

i've seen basically nothing but hype for it outside of specifically this server

[golden plover]

It's not gonna shake up eternal formats, but it'll probably be nice for standard and have a couple cute cards in some eternal formats and edh

I'm worried about the draft being unbalanced towards green, but so far we're 2/2 on that in play booster drafts

Besides, it can't be worse than MKM/ACR

My LGS is selling their unsold MKM boxes for $70 now

[twilit canyon]

im mostly just memeing on it

its ok

perfectly fine commander set

[trail anvil]

probably not many standard cards but yeah great commander presence and fantastic lore (on cards)

[golden plover]

I think it's got some of the most creative world building we've seen on a plane in forever

It's not just "oh it's X trope" the plane

[trail anvil]

I was big on [[spellgyre]], but considering three steps ahead is still in standard it probably isn't showing up

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/72/spellgyre

Spellgyre <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Choose one —
• Counter target spell.
• Surveil 2, then draw two cards. (To surveil 2, look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)

[trail anvil]

yeah it's really fun, and morbid

[golden plover]

Big upside that all the cards aren't just legends we know in cowboy hats or detective hats

[trail anvil]

instead they're in dynamic fursuits

[golden plover]

It probably does help Ral is the only character we know on the plane

[trail anvil]

I kinda wanna get the group hug precon cause it's got some fun stuff, but a ton of the cards are just bad too

[trail anvil]

is jace not in the story?

[golden plover]

Jace is mentioned, but we don't see him ever

[twilit canyon]

oh for sure

not knocking on it for that

[gritty nest]

What do you guys think of value boosters

[copper pecan]

i think people making a big deal about it are kinda stupid

like

this isn't something they're gonna be selling at game stores

this is like the $1 pokemon packs that they sell at grocery stores

[glad peak]

It all depends on how much it’ll be sold for but it’s not a bad play

[sleek ferry]

If they’re like max $3 it will be fine

[golden plover]

I think it's a waste to print packs no one wants

But it does depend on the cost

[rigid scarab]

It fills the niche of "Thing the parent buys the kid to shut them up"

Those kinds of packs are important

[atomic harness]

I'll get you some son

[stark skiff]

Who’s trying to buy out the foil Special Guest Prismatic Vista lol

[twilit canyon]

thats me sorry

/jk

[stark skiff]

Ah so you’re not sorry

[twilit canyon]

definitely not

once i buy them out i'll sell them for 100 each

[sudden lava]

Decided against picking up squirrel precon, now going to get Group Hug

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/group-hug-simon-cowell-tinky-winky-dipsy-laa-laa-gif-26045574

[sudden lava]

Gotta kill em with kindness, and I already do have some grouphug esque cards I can borrow from the doctor who precons for upgrades

Specifically Mr. "Draw Punch" and The "By the way end step, who wants a card?" Doctor

[gritty nest]

None of the precons interested me tbh

[sudden lava]

what planeswalker did they give the grouphug precon again?

[zinc shard]

I did not realized all of Bloomburrow was revealed... I am really far behind

[sudden lava]

The angel one right?

[zinc shard]

[[Tamiyo, Field Researcher]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/emn/190/tamiyo-field-researcher

Tamiyo, Field Researcher <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Tamiyo
+1: Choose up to two target creatures. Until your next turn, whenever either of those creatures deals combat damage, you draw a card.
−2: Tap up to two target nonland permanents. They don't untap during their controller's next untap step.
−7: Draw three cards. You get an emblem with "You may cast spells from your hand without paying their mana costs."
Loyalty: 4

[stark skiff]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/bloomburrow-commander-decklists

[gritty nest]

Elspeth came in offspring

[sudden lava]

Ah right bunny tamiyo is in grouphug

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Tamiyo-Field-Researcher-400x559.jpg

[rigid scarab]

Oh god really not much in the commander reprint department this time huh

[gritty nest]

Did another quick look

Gruul followed by Jeskai is what I’m interested in

[rigid scarab]

Well

It looks like the reason why I'm not excited about the reprints here are

The reprints are more "Low-supply cards that are good in specific archetypes" rather than universal staples

Which is... fine

You need to reprint those archetype-specific cards eventually

[fallow citrus]

bnuuuuy

[trail anvil]

honestly my favorite part about the group hug commander deck is that the face and backup commander work really well together

I'm assuming they're a couple?

[trail anvil]

what kinda decks are you into

ik you've done ezio and omo

[stark skiff]

not a fan of the squirrel precon as is but the 2 commanders are nice

[trail anvil]

the backup commander is sure to get laughs

[stark skiff]

for group or squirrel?

i wanna get the backup to the group. so neat

[trail anvil]

I meant squirrel, but the fox is nice too

catch-up draw sounds fun lol

[golden plover]

Imma definitely build Mr foxglove as a optimized list

But he's competing with Derevi in that space

I just like the idea of "Stax where we draw 7 cards at a time and sometimes cheat out Avacyn or Jin"

[gritty nest]

Ezio isn’t necessarily for me, I’m building it for someone else because they wanted Ezio specifically

[trail anvil]

ic

[gritty nest]

Sam & Frodo
Eowyn ( 3 color)
Optimus Prime, Hero
Yuma, Proud Protector
Ulalek
Sefris
Edward Kenway
Gonti, Canny Acquisitor

That’s some of my commander decks

If that gives an insight into what I like

[golden plover]

We listing decks? Here's what I play

-Elsha Cedh
-Ghen Cedh
-Roghark/Yoshimaru Cedh
-Thrasios/Jeska Cedh
-Shorakai
-Lathril
-The Heads I Win Precon (unmodified)

[gritty nest]

I have more but can’t be asked to remember

[golden plover]

I've got a few modified precons, but I dunno which rn

[gritty nest]

[[lathril]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khc/1/lathril-blade-of-the-elves

Lathril, Blade of the Elves <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Elf Noble
Menace
Whenever Lathril, Blade of the Elves deals combat damage to a player, create that many 1/1 green Elf Warrior creature tokens.
, Tap ten untapped Elves you control: Each opponent loses 10 life and you gain 10 life.
2/3

[golden plover]

Can you tell I've got a favorite color lmao

[gritty nest]

I know someone who plays this

[golden plover]

Most people do. Lathril is the most played Elf Commander and top 5 most played commanders as a whole

[gritty nest]

I’m guessing blue and/or green? Idk all their colors

[golden plover]

White

Elsha, Ghen, Yoshimaru, and Shorakai are all white

Surprised you looked up Lathril and not [[Ghen]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/275/ghen-arcanum-weaver

Ghen, Arcanum Weaver <:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
, , Sacrifice an enchantment: Return target enchantment card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
"Any apprentice with a spellbook and two sticks can churn out a fireball. This is different. This is art."
2/3

[gritty nest]

Because I get it mixed up with another card all the time

[golden plover]

Fair

[gritty nest]

Kathril or something

[golden plover]

Yeah, the Azban bug

[gritty nest]

Azkaban

White and blue are my prominent colors

All except 2 decks I said have white

[gritty nest]

How is this dude? I’ve never seen Mardu tokens

Hey @trail anvil I’m curious btw, why did you want to know what my play style was like? Sorry for the ping

[stark skiff]

im honestly surprised im interested in the Family Matters precon. Seems like a nice token focused deck

[gritty nest]

I only like it because tokens, even though it’s not my favorite style of tokens

Gruul looks like shenanigans and I’m all for that

[granite badge]

Bloomburrow is probs my fav magic set of all time already

I really liked thunder junction too

[lusty trench]

Bloomburrow feels like most pre... Idk midnight hunt? Magic set

[granite badge]

I will admit my bias

The alt art planeswalkers are fucking cute

[lusty trench]

It's less focused on the major lore stuffs and it doesn't feel like a gimmick set like other recent sets (the clue set, the cowboy set)

Despite it totally being a gimmick set

[gritty nest]

The plane itself being the gimmick while they make more unique effects?

[lusty trench]

The plane is the gimmick but it feels more realized

[gritty nest]

Fair

[lusty trench]

The effects of the cards themselves I'm kind of mixed on as a whole

Offspring is neat but there weren't too many cards that use it interestingly, and gift is a flavoured kicker but has a cute thematic connection to the set

My main concern is they didn't go hard enough of each tribes gimmick likely because they want the cards to slot into mixed species decks

[gritty nest]

Which is fair to an extent

[lusty trench]

And as a result they're kinda lame effects but I see why

I think mice and otters got the best of it

Meanwhile raccoons...

this isn't even a deck it's just a travesty

[stark skiff]

hamsters

[gritty nest]

The set seems very communal in how they want the different species to act together? Does that sound about right

[lusty trench]

Yeah

[gritty nest]

And I’m fine with that personally

[lusty trench]

Some species are allies and that shows through some of their effects applying to more than one species

[gritty nest]

I have to ask

What did you guys think of bloodroot apothecary coming in the group hug deck?

[lusty trench]

Strange deck to put it in, but I think overall it's fine

I don't think it'll rise to staple level usage, but it does have a purpose

Likely going to cause salt because it's poison and stax in a single card

[gritty nest]

I can see it as a free slot in a deck you don’t know what else to put in, especially against non creature token based decks

Like if those run around a lot for you it’s a good counter measure

I feel like I worded that poorly

[lusty trench]

I can see that yeah

My vote for best card out of the commander decks is pollywog prodigy though

Prosperous bandit is interesting too

[gritty nest]

I’ll have to read those

Pollywog looks cool and I love the card draw and the fact it can potentially get big

Bandit will go hard in the right deck

[stark skiff]

honestly im just most excited to mess around with Ygra, Wick, Maha, and Vren lol

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/zootopia-facepalm-facesmash-judy-gif-5822443

[sudden lava]

Yeah the lore is that while yes each species has their own unique culture (represented mechanically by individual deck gimmicks for the main typals) they all work together to protect their homes from the calamity beasts

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-10635075666166435942

[sudden lava]

I've seen the couple joke so many times for the Grouphug new commanders, and I can only think zootopia 😭

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSyGZpYakAExsiW?format=png&name=900x900

[fallow citrus]

woo sol ring, I love sol ring wooo

[sudden lava]

I need multiple copies of the new sol ring

[stark skiff]

nice conection i woulda never thought of zootopia now its canon in my head lol

[gritty nest]

It’s a funyun, however it’s spelt

[sudden lava]

some of the best sol ring art, also remember bant includes blue/white which are cop colors so bun

[sudden lava]

Absolutely get an alter done where it's Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde

[gritty nest]

Which precon has helm of the host?

[stark skiff]

Family Matters

[gritty nest]

I realized something

Hazel + Helm = shenanigans

[stark skiff]

most things plus helm = shenangians

[gritty nest]

Fair enough

I just found the fact hazel goes exponential is funny

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/family-matters-steve-urkle-house-gif-16046408

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/dackfayden07/status/1813937554112069647?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

DackFayden07 (@DackFayden07) on X

I just realised turn2 Medallion enables both of your combo kills on turn3 with this deck! 🤯🤯🤯
What is even crazier you can make this easily super budget deck and great entry into format for new players, but this is list that is imo optimal without budget considerations! 😍😍😍

Twitter · Jul 18, 2024, 2:03 PM

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/-i8hnNHptxM

A little bit of early access bloomburrow commander time ❤️

[sudden lava]

oh yeah hilarious moment from last night, I got a 43/40 mothman, then it got stolen from me and slapped me dead

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsoDxaDI2sg&ab_channel=CommanderAtHome

Bloomburrow Commander at Home

[stark skiff]

oh neat

[trail anvil]

I feel like we talk about deckbuilding help/commander recommendations enough

wanted to get an idea

[gritty nest]

Fair

I have some more commanders but I both don’t remember/not home to look

Actually I forgot Sethron

[stark skiff]

https://x.com/TolarianCollege/status/1814079942646534606

Tolarian Community College (@TolarianCollege) on X

Karn arriving on Bloomburrow...

Twitter · Jul 18, 2024, 11:28 PM

[gritty nest]

Mail day

[stark skiff]

ngl love seeing kibler play. just always makes me realize new cool stuff. seeing him play that precon is wild and made me want it lol

[sleek ferry]

Seeing an actual good player play commander is a treat yes

[sudden lava]

Death Race leak (kind of)

[fallow citrus]

no way we're on new leaks already

[sudden lava]

its a very light leak, no mechanics or anything big.

[fallow citrus]

I think I saw something on the mtg reddit saying we'd only been like.. 27 days straight this year without leaks or new products being announced

[gritty nest]

When your opponents play turn 2 blind obedience and suppression field against foods

I fucking scooped

[lusty trench]

you not running your enchantment removals or just didn't want to play the waiting game to get to them?

[gritty nest]

I didn’t draw into anything

And didn’t want to sit far behind waiting for it when Frodo requires cracking foods

[lusty trench]

Cringe, that's sadly how it be Vs stax though

[gritty nest]

Wasn’t even stax decks

Just stax pieces in regular decks

[lusty trench]

Oh just random stax pieces who was their commander

[gritty nest]

Idk the other but one was Ramos and Tymna

Apparently according to another server I’m a dumb ass for scooping though

[lusty trench]

Eh scooping when you don't want to have to be playing on the backfoot all game is fair

It's not a fun experience sitting and waiting for you to draw the out

[gritty nest]

“You just need to have patience”

[lusty trench]

Especially when other people's turns can take a while

[gritty nest]

Exactly

[lusty trench]

Id understand in a competitive environment with prizing on the line that it's not optimal but when you're just trying to have fun it can be a better experience to just try and start a new game or just concede to play on ur phone or something

[gritty nest]

Hello

I’d rather sit on my phone than draw pass

I then got asked if I run enough removal

8 single 2 wipes

[lusty trench]

10s a little bit too low for what I usually run but I'm usually shouldering the burden for others who don't run good amounts so I'm likely overcompensating

[gritty nest]

All I want is an assassins trophy for the deck at this point

Other than that I think the removal suite is perfected

Well Besst Within, Generous Gift and Abrupt Decay could be cards I add

[lusty trench]

Hit em with a [[cleansing nova]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/817/cleansing-nova

Cleansing Nova <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy all creatures.
• Destroy all artifacts and enchantments.
In their final moments, the demons gazed upon grace in its purest form.

[gritty nest]

True

I’d probably cut uhh

The 1B destroy non artifact creature for trophy

Cut another meh single target for nova

Here

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zMA2Va5Wck6ZfbdH6RffYw

Not asking for advice but that’s basically the deck

[lusty trench]

Not much id change about it tbh looks solid

[gritty nest]

I’d still do [[Go for the Throat]] for ass trophy tbh

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/250/go-for-the-throat

Go for the Throat <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Destroy target nonartifact creature.
When Titania offered peace, Urza merely turned her down. Mishra made her people pay for the insult.

[trail anvil]

if it's a commander game and I get staxed out I usually wait, but I feel like there's a point in the pod where you can tell everyone wants to scoop

[gritty nest]

Because for the same mana value I can blow up anything

[gritty nest]

That happened about 10 mins after I scooped instantly

I wasn’t gonna sit around and do nothing though

[trail anvil]

ye I get it

there's a certain point where it becomes a non-game

[gritty nest]

It would have been turn 5 by the time I’d be able to swing with Frodo once

Not worth sticking through

[sudden lava]

Steelburr's token is so cute

[stark skiff]

Farewell, Assassin Trophy, Boseiju, Feed the Swarm, Force of Vigor, Beast Within, Loran, Unanguished Making, Generous Gift, Aura Shards

I know not asking but you’re in some of the best removal colors lol

[gritty nest]

I know

I just got an ass trophy

[gritty nest]

I got a few cards today

Foil etched Agent of the Iron Throne, Ugin’s Binding, assassins trophy

[gritty nest]

im 29 cards short from having tana ravos in an existing state

[copper pecan]

https://x.com/coL_Amazonian/status/1814468786738614565?t=8EgLLEMygUcwe7TW5vXniA&s=19

Amy the Amazonian ☕ 💕 🤖 (@coL_Amazonian) on X

This bat is bringing me the fattest blunt I've ever seen.

Twitter · Jul 20, 2024, 1:14 AM

[trail anvil]

iron throne is fun

[gritty nest]

I bought 2 regular ones a while back and just got 2 foil etched ones because pretty