Magic the Gathering

[fallow citrus]

I like that soul spike has started popping up

[twilit canyon]

also im so glad that boros energy is actually good

[sleek ferry]

@subtle tendon

[subtle tendon]

?

[sleek ferry]

E tron list

[subtle tendon]

Oh

[twilit canyon]

its a tron list too

not an eldrazi list

means both versions are being succesful

[sleek ferry]

Lamb was also wondering about maining chalices

So other reason I tagged him

I feel a chalice reprint in bloomburrow

I feel it in my old bones

[twilit canyon]

i'd wait on it yeah its a good card but it does definitely has some bad match ups

[fallow citrus]

I like trinisphere making a comeback

[twilit canyon]

it makes a ton of sense with the free spells in modern

[fallow citrus]

oh for sure

[trail anvil]

don't you also just have good ways to discard her in tron? I saw a build where one of the underworld cookbooks was in the side for the karnboard

is it not there middle row on the right behind shelly?

or do you mean flare

[twilit canyon]

oh it is there behind shelly

ew

[trail anvil]

I mean the list is just full of cards that go minus on hand advantage to abuse necro, I kinda get the line of thinking

[twilit canyon]

i somewhat get it but its so rough to use when necro cuts your hand size and you're losing all that life and already spending this mana on grief scams

[trail anvil]

[[necrodominance]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/102/necrodominance

Necrodominance <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Enchantment
Skip your draw step.
At the beginning of your end step, you may pay any amount of life. If you do, draw that many cards.
Your maximum hand size is five.
If a card or token would be put into your graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.

[trail anvil]

don't you just do it in the end step and overdraw?

[twilit canyon]

discard to hand size

[trail anvil]

easiest pattern I can think of is going to 7

[twilit canyon]

the idea is to spend that on soul spikes and marches but march is much more awkward

[trail anvil]

yeah but you go to 7, burn a spell, then avoid discarding cause you used 2 cards

[twilit canyon]

*3

[trail anvil]

I guess

[twilit canyon]

[[soul spike]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/csp/70/soul-spike

Soul Spike <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
You may exile two black cards from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Soul Spike deals 4 damage to any target and you gain 4 life.

[trail anvil]

oh wow

[twilit canyon]

any target is key

march fails to go face and a way to blank march is to force no targets

[trail anvil]

one thing I don't get is doesn't dominance turn off scam

[gritty nest]

Hello

[twilit canyon]

it does

but you arent scamming at that point

you scam grief and then card value

[sudden lava]

I think there is a good shot we will get a chatterfang reprint in bloomburorw

[trail anvil]

ic, makes sense. kill their advantage then become an advantage machine

[sleek ferry]

You’ll probably get a chatterfang reprint in the precon

[twilit canyon]

its an exploitable engine and can absolutely crumble in the face of aggro

[sudden lava]

yeah exactly

[twilit canyon]

but when it works it works

[sleek ferry]

Chalice could very well be a special guest though, and wotc has been going pretty hard with the special guests lately, so I’m all for it

[gritty nest]

What do you guys think of bloomburrow so far? You think it’ll turn out to be a decent set?

[sudden lava]

very excited for it

[trail anvil]

ig march is the prayer in the face of aggro

sounds kinda rough though

[sleek ferry]

We don’t have enough cards revealed to make a judgment, but people are very excited off the theme alone

[gritty nest]

My friend wants to get the squirrel and raccoon precons from that set

[sleek ferry]

So it would be a huge L for wotc not to deliver with at least a decent set

[twilit canyon]

march heavy negs your hand to clean up phlage

[gritty nest]

I’ll probably only get singles

[sudden lava]

AC was a mid set themes wise, not many cool cards

[twilit canyon]

if you dont have mana open

[sudden lava]

But I can see myself making a couple bloomburrow decks

[twilit canyon]

thats 1 mana and 3 cards net total losing 4 cards to eat phlage who just returns

[sleek ferry]

The funny thing is, nobody has expectations for AC, and it still turned out worse than people thought

[urban crane]

Im definitely interested kinda in atleast group hug for bloomburrow and maybe the squirrel one

[trail anvil]

I feel like you just eat shit and die in the face of phlage until g2

[twilit canyon]

phlage just fucks ngl

[trail anvil]

I'm so glad

cool design tbh

[twilit canyon]

havent been this happy with burn for ages

both my favorite decks got meaningful upgrades

[urban crane]

Do you al sometimes have this you don’t really wanne particularly wanna build a deck with something but you feel you kinda have to cause you get so much stuff for it

[twilit canyon]

no

i build what i want when i want

and if i dont then i dont

[gritty nest]

I kinda want to get the 3c pirate dude and build pirate vehicles

Sorry for ping forgot to turn it off

[urban crane]

Like I have so much blue stuff now and kinda wanna put it to good use just no idea with what

[sudden lava]

Like really the only cool things from the set (to me at least)
Final color of the rat clause, the big sword for historics, Shao Jun aka voltron, Sokrates, and Lesbian Pirates

[gritty nest]

Lesbian pirates?

[sudden lava]

http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Mary-Read-and-Anne-Bonny-2-Assassins-Creed-Spoiler.png

[gritty nest]

Oh

[sudden lava]

and even then, this is likely going to the 99 of Kenway D:

[gritty nest]

Sounds fair. Kenway lends itself better to both themes

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Excalibur-Sword-of-Eden-400x559.webp

Big historic sword is gonna swing so good

[gritty nest]

Gives me third doctor vibes

God I love my third doctor Dan Lewis deck

It’s so dumb

[twilit canyon]

this card is ass

[gritty nest]

City of ass?

[twilit canyon]

worse

[barren cairn]

Wow rakdos the muscle is very fun to play against

I'm particularly good at getting steamrolled lately lol

[twilit canyon]

brother. you need to step ur game up or stop caring about the results in commander games.

every other word from you has been complaints

[gritty nest]

[sleek ferry]

Tdil you like burn

[twilit canyon]

burn was my first fully proper modern deck

ive not stopped playing it since 2019

[sleek ferry]

That’s respectable, I feel as if burn is a lot of people’s entry point to the format

[twilit canyon]

burn, mill, prowess, affinity, scales

ppl usually leave these after a while but they retain fans

i think burn is peak magic

p much a perfect deck type

cares about combat, cares about the stack, cares about sequencing

[barren cairn]

I'm finishing up my ratadrabik infinite combo deck so I suppose that'll do fine

Rakdos just milled my opponent's entire deck lol

[trail anvil]

shit I gotta try this out to get into modern then

all the cards look fun

[fallow citrus]

yeah burn is peak intro to modern

[glad peak]

Wait phlage in burn topped? My friend owes me mh3 packs

[twilit canyon]

i wasnt a believer either at the start

then i played him in burn

and oh boy

card's hot

[glad peak]

I believed in him lol

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/argzax/status/1803953609937424892?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Ari Zax (@argzax) on X

Twitter · Jun 21, 2024, 12:50 AM

I have no words

[twilit canyon]

lol

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/karsten_frank/status/1804069735358718306?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Frank Karsten (@karsten_frank) on X

Based on the first MTGO results, Modern Horizons 3 has led to a complete upheaval of the metagame. Modern is a brewer's paradise leading into next week's Pro Tour! #MTGMH3 #PTMH3

Twitter · Jun 21, 2024, 8:31 AM

I think the Pro tour rep will look very different tbh, but I could be coping

[twilit canyon]

26.7% other is crazy

[trail anvil]

I hope ruby storm keeps going strong, I just traded my necrodominance for another ral

[sleek ferry]

You didn’t keep necro for your edh deck?

[trail anvil]

which one would I put it in

[sleek ferry]

That would require me to have intimate knowledge of your commanders

[trail anvil]

I think everyone misunderstood many cards in this set, me included

[glad peak]

All of them, especially the non-black decks

[trail anvil]

well for necro I'd need either a monob commander or a really good mana base, neither of which I have rn

[sleek ferry]

You can get some cheaper than market lands on whatnot, if you have patience

[trail anvil]

I don't

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/respectthecat90/status/1804570848927342946?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

RespectTheCat🐈 (@RespectTheCat90) on X

🏆Trophy #2 with Jund
changed the manabase to be more consistant and played a bit with some numbers. been liking it so far

Twitter · Jun 22, 2024, 5:43 PM

[glad peak]

Where Lurrus

[zinc shard]

Nice Bird Idiot

This may be my best draft deck yet

[sudden lava]

Just got back from picking up singles at locals. Got a foil chatter of the squirrel, and regular copies of Agent of the Iron Throne, Agent of the Shadow Thieves, and Master Chef

[barren cairn]

Damn they enabled the sliver player and I lost to slivers again

At least I got to do something before dying

So I'm a little happy

[sudden lava]

Like yeah this is for sure getting a reprint soon, but just had to pick up one just in case 🩷

He's just a small guy

[last glen]

he's a small guy that's gotta close his mouth
he's spittin' everywhere

[sudden lava]

also I just found out today there is another art of chatter of the squirrel where the squirrels are talking to each other , I didnt see that one so gonna stick to the one I bought but that's a wholesome alt art

[barren cairn]

Playing against slivers again

I hate slivers

They cascade and cascade and cascade

[glad peak]

Just rule zero ban them

Speaking of which what is everyone’s most absurd rule zero they played through?

[sudden lava]

Playing against tiny Eriette of the Charmed Apple

[golden plover]

"Commanders start face-down" was a wacky one

[glad peak]

Tiny eriette?

[sudden lava]

Imagine this, the size of a stamp

[glad peak]

Wow that’s crunchy

[sudden lava]

the whole deck was stamp sized

[golden plover]

It was vaguely interesting but it felt like dude was being weird about playing an aggressive commander

[glad peak]

Mine was any 2 commanders but me specifically cannot play red

[golden plover]

I typically don't enjoy rule 0 talks and don't entertain most of them unless it's like "can I run un-cards?"

[sudden lava]

https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/c/ecead4cd-47ae-4c42-b15c-1b29b5caba18.jpg?1692939281

this is what she does btw

the rule zero part was them having a tiny deck

[glad peak]

Yep I know lol

What if they were actually stamps

Stick the auras to your cards

[sudden lava]

their playmat was a mouse pad of Eriette

[golden plover]

I made an EDH deck from those "worlds smallest decks" one time

Played one game with it before the novelty wore off and it wasn't worth it

They don't make sleeves for them or anything

[glad peak]

Aren’t all playmats mouse pads

[sudden lava]

that's a good point

but like if they were playing a normal deck, they would've have much room to play cards

[sudden lava]

but plenty of room for stamp sized deck

[golden plover]

Building Sultai from this was hard

[sudden lava]

Also today I realized how cracked this girl is

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1254206770784501790/image.png?ex=6678a694&is=66775514&hm=890d048bfd7143232163fa07015bcaef5579e0ea4cd79a278c7b51d46ddd7dba&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=427&height=543

just says tokens, not creature tokens

[glad peak]

She’s alright, good ramp

[golden plover]

Wish she said "any color" or made them into command towers

[trail anvil]

she is very much fine as-is lol

[sudden lava]

still good green ramp

for token decks

[glad peak]

The only problem being that it’s a card that turns tokens into ramp in a color that already excels in ramp

[gritty nest]

And making them tap for any color would make her broken I’m guessing

[hidden ermine]

I just realised I misread Nadu

I assumed the effect was just his effect

Not something he gives to the whole team

[twilit canyon]

many such cases

[hidden ermine]

Yeah that seems

... a bit poorly balanced

[twilit canyon]

hes fine

ultimately

[trail anvil]

don't forget that if you blink him you get to repeat everything on each creature

I heard he's performing very reasonably in modern, but has the same problem of very long nondeterministic turns

[twilit canyon]

yeah

it can lead to a lot of wheel spinning but no progress being done

[sleek ferry]

The Nadu panic has been pretty entertaining

(Don’t tell these people about Kinnan)

[atomic harness]

Is ruby storm actually broken or are ppl fearmongering again @twilit canyon

I'm seeing a lot of turn 2 magical Christmas opening videos

[twilit canyon]

its soo broken if your opponent doesnt run interaction

[atomic harness]

[twilit canyon]

nvm that the most played cards are all interaction

[atomic harness]

it might be primeover

[twilit canyon]

titan?

one of the best nadu decks?

[atomic harness]

Yeah dw I'm memeing

[twilit canyon]

as i said mh3 is one of the best things to happen to magic

[atomic harness]

How are the other old mainstays holding up post mh3? like yawg, domain zoo and rhino

oh also skam

[twilit canyon]

good

yawg got new cards

domain zoo got new cards

rhinos were doing rough but now they arent as popular

but should still be strong

and then scam has been good

murktide has been good

burn has been good

affinity

shit ton of decks

[atomic harness]

goated

What did mh3 gib for affinity again it's been a while

[twilit canyon]

kappa cannoneer

and tamiyo

[atomic harness]

can I read new tamiyo

holy we're so cannoback

[twilit canyon]

yeah

1 mana 0/3 vigilance

flying

not vigilance

but when she attacks she makes a clue

[zinc shard]

in a 4 player format or a non EDH format I can see Nadu not being a problem, my concern is Brawl.

[twilit canyon]

the rest of the text doesnt matter

[zinc shard]

But im assuming Nadu will get a digital nerf

[twilit canyon]

if ragavan hasnt

nadu wont

[trail anvil]

tbh I'm amazed ragavan hasn't, even for hell queue that deck feels like cancer to play against

[gritty nest]

im thinking of building landfall. Do I buy the desert bloom precon and do naya or try to build jund landfall with Lord Windgrace (cuz im not buying the precon)

[trail anvil]

up to you, I know windgrace is a really popular commander as far as landfall goes

[gritty nest]

fair

[trail anvil]

yuma looks super fun as a commander but still haven't managed to play him

[gritty nest]

ive played one game with the precon, i actually had fun with him

[golden plover]

I honestly don't think Tamiyo is real for Affinity

We don't wanna be paying 1 to get a clue every turn on t3 onwards

[trail anvil]

you mean t2?

[golden plover]

Yeah my bad

[gritty nest]

So I updated the Nadu deck a bit and added more interaction and fixed the land base. This Friday is the pride event for my LGS and if they decide to do tournament bracket, I’ll be playing that. Is it wrong? Maybe. But I’d be playing to win

[zinc shard]

https://youtu.be/pImEiyXZNmo?si=pWfMLRk_N3Jras0k

[granite badge]

we love brewers kitchen

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/NikachuMTG/status/1804649283032854867?t=6w1lXKBjgz8jH_PtrGv03w&s=19

Nikachu (@NikachuMTG) on X

Made top 8 of the @NRGSeries with Modern Merfolk! Harbinger of the Seas blue mooned many players! I was prepared vs Storm and Nadu and was gifted those match ups!

Match ups:
R1 Rakdos Waste Not 🌊🍣🌊
R2 Ruby Storm 🌊🍣🌊
R3 Merfolk 🍣🍣
R4 Nadu 🌊🍣🌊
R5 Ruby Storm 🌊🍣🌊
R6

Twitter · Jun 22, 2024, 10:54 PM

[twilit canyon]

yea not surprising deck is very solid rn

[trail anvil]

shame we don't have spreading seas in historic

[fallow citrus]

I mean with harbinger you dont rly need it

[twilit canyon]

you also dont have harbinger in historic

[fallow citrus]

damn fr?

[twilit canyon]

pre-banned

we dont have harbinger of the tides, tide shaper, or rishadan dockhand either

or aether vial

[fallow citrus]

that blows

[copper pecan]

wotc said they don't want to have land hate cards in historic iirc

[gritty nest]

Hello

[gritty nest]

I picked up the desert bloom deck

[gritty nest]

Pulls from the sample pack

[urban crane]

Nice

[gritty nest]

I’m thinking of tearing apart my [[!Gonti, Canny Acquisitor]] deck

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/1/gonti-canny-acquisitor

Gonti, Canny Acquisitor

[gritty nest]

Because I never get to play it

[glad peak]

Why not?

[lusty trench]

People don’t like stealing decks and it’s a deck you can’t really play over webcam

[gritty nest]

I play only irl tbh

But yea the steal stuff, every time I’ve played it I have people scoop instantly

[fallow citrus]

god that art is so cool

[gritty nest]

But the same person who scoops instantly also has gonti but gets annoyed if we scoop when he steals our stuff

So it’s like

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glad peak]

Seems uh

[gritty nest]

Double standard

Bullshit

Etc.

[glad peak]

Yeah it seems more like a problem with them, not your deck

[gritty nest]

Yea, but no point in keeping it if I never play it

Besides I got Nadu off them so they didn’t build it, worth

[glad peak]

Idk I might still keep it even at a super nerfed version just so you whip it out and watch them scoop if they get out of hand

But yeah I love that art

The full art for commanders thing in that set was really cool in general

[gritty nest]

The gonti is amazing looking

[lusty trench]

It’s why I was surprised they made a precon around it, people get really weird about stealing effects

[gritty nest]

The commander is foil and makes the blue and gold pop

The set was based on the Wild West essentially, thievery is bound to happen

[glad peak]

Be a menace and play gonti only while eating Cheetos and claim you can only read cards outside the sleeve

[lusty trench]

I wish that gonti was better man

[gritty nest]

Pull a yu-jo friendship

Make sure I just finished eating a blue raspberry pickle

[rigid scarab]

"I'm only doing what I need to win"

[glad peak]

Not to win, it’s funnier that way lol

[gritty nest]

I’ve had success with him but with minor changes. I just added more weenies that are unblockable. Gonti’s main issues imo is mana cost and needing to hit

And also steal decks require hitting good cards to keep your plan moving

[glad peak]

My friends said they wanted a long game so here I am playing a 5hr game of looping thieve’s auction

[gritty nest]

At least it’s not sharazad, however it’s spelt

[glad peak]

And scrambleverse but that got exiled

[gritty nest]

Scrambleverse hivemind

[glad peak]

Thieve’s auction hivemind is funnier tbh

[gritty nest]

Never heard of auction tbh

[glad peak]

Since the order in which it resolves actually matters

[[thieves’ auction]]

[gritty nest]

[[thieves auction]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/227/thieves-auction

Thieves' Auction <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Exile all nontoken permanents. Starting with you, each player chooses one of the exiled cards and puts it onto the battlefield tapped under their control. Repeat this process until all cards exiled this way have been chosen.

https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/227/thieves-auction

Thieves' Auction <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Exile all nontoken permanents. Starting with you, each player chooses one of the exiled cards and puts it onto the battlefield tapped under their control. Repeat this process until all cards exiled this way have been chosen.

[gritty nest]

Dear god

[glad peak]

So while scrambleverse can be shortcutted, this cannot

[gritty nest]

How do you shortcut scrambleverse

[glad peak]

[[scrambleverse]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m12/153/scrambleverse

Scrambleverse <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
For each nonland permanent, choose a player at random. Then each player gains control of each permanent for which they were chosen. Untap those permanents.
Sometimes a little chaos is in order.

[lusty trench]

Issue I have with him is he just doesn’t do enough imo

He’s too fair for 5 mana

[glad peak]

For hive mind scrambleverse you just shortcut to the last instance since it’s random

[gritty nest]

I think they made him fair because of the objective hatred towards stealing

Like on one hand yea it’s annoying

But on the other don’t cry when your one trick win con gets stolen

Or a basic

[glad peak]

Eh I guess you can shortcut hive mind auction to be the last player

[gritty nest]

True

[glad peak]

Next task: loop everybody lives

[gritty nest]

Cease

You and my roommate would get along

You sound like the type of person to run 6th doctor and Sarah Jane Smith? I think. And do bang superfriends

[glad peak]

My friends are no strangers to bad but funny decks

[gritty nest]

And just deck yourself with 70 copies of mondrak and tezzeret

[glad peak]

One guy tried to play that kenrith pile to turn the game into uno but it didn’t work out

[gritty nest]

Kenrith pile?

[glad peak]

There was a youtube vid about it, let me try to find it

https://youtu.be/cykXr9knh54?si=Jf424Zjk9IW4t_au

It was based off this

[gritty nest]

I see

Oh yea

I picked up some cards for Nadu today

Spellseeker, Umbral Mantle, and a Trophy Mage

[trail anvil]

there's such weird scoops sometimes

[gritty nest]

Weirdest one was scooping to your turn 1 sol ring getting hit by a pact of negation

[trail anvil]

one time someone scooped when I casted [[genesis wave]] for x=10, didn't even wait for my reveals

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ima/164/genesis-wave

Genesis Wave <:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Reveal the top X cards of your library. You may put any number of permanent cards with mana value X or less from among them onto the battlefield. Then put all cards revealed this way that weren't put onto the battlefield into your graveyard.

[trail anvil]

lmao

[gritty nest]

The pact player didn’t have the mana btw

[trail anvil]

I'd be worried if they did lol

[gritty nest]

Lmao

[trail anvil]

you'd need like crypt + vault + some way to filter

[gritty nest]

But yea imagine if the genesis wave whiffed

You just got a free dub basically

[trail anvil]

I hit like one decent card and the rest were meh

[gritty nest]

Exactly

I’m keeping gonti together

If people don’t like it then like

Quit relying on acerack rooftop to win?

That’s probably harsh to say

[glad peak]

My funniest concede was in modern murktide mirror match

Guy had 1 land but 2 considers and 2 baubles on the draw

[gritty nest]

Is that good or bad?

[glad peak]

It’s 4 draws off cards alone, it’s worth to keep in this case if the rest of the hand is good early or removal

[gritty nest]

Ah

I’m guessing he got nothing?

[glad peak]

But he considers on his turn 2 upkeep, picks up his mat, says something in a language I didn’t understand, and left

Round 1, game 1, fastest round of my life

[gritty nest]

Sounds like that wasn’t hard to consider

Sorry I’ll ban myself now

I’ve had a funny 2-1 when I went to a yugioh regional. Was playing cyber dragon and the other was playing true Draco

Game 3 he goes first and set 1 pass. Flips TD Return and I reboot it, he sets TCBOO from deck and tells me I can’t OTK him

cyber dragon

[glad peak]

Ah yes cyber dragon can’t otk through tcboo

[gritty nest]

Ah nah he didn’t flip TCBOO

Reboot wouldn’t let him

[glad peak]

Wait I just reread

Oof lmao

[gritty nest]

I’m going second

I summon Sieger Nova and Cydra, swing with Cydra and he tells me it’s not enough damage

[glad peak]

Ah yes cyber dragon, the deck that famously can’t otk

[gritty nest]

“Seiger chain nova swing for 6300?”

Nope one of the worse OTK decks in history

He gave me a dead fish handshake and left

Didn’t even pack his stuff

Actually I lie I had 2 funny interactions

“Nova detach target Cydra?”
“I’ll chain ghost ogre.”
“are you sure?”

[glad peak]

Funniest regionals game I played (other than the game vs VV where we both had nothing for 6+ turns) was when an opponent tried to call a judge on me for apparently not choosing targets when activating princess when I pointed to 2 things at the same time

[gritty nest]

Promethean princess?

The fire link 3

[glad peak]

Yep

[gritty nest]

Ah okay. Still learning the new cards

And that’s like

A dumb reason, cuz part of her effect is targeting two monsters

[glad peak]

Eh it was on the bubble so I don’t blame the opponent

That VV game was hilarious though since both of our decks is supposed to be extremely consistent but both of us couldn’t play for multiple turns not because of a floodgate but because we bricked

[gritty nest]

Longest yugioh game recorded

[glad peak]

Went to time, I only hit them once with a bystial

[gritty nest]

Fair enough

[glad peak]

Back to magic though

[gritty nest]

I am currently going through the skeleton of Duskana to find cards for Yuma

[glad peak]

Always a feels bad when a player has lethal on the entire table on board but decides to roll a dice to kill only 1 person like ???

[gritty nest]

I thought about doing naya bear tribal but like

I find the idea of rolling a die ignorant

It doesn’t change the fact you’ll still have committed to targeted someone

Quit being a bitch and target something that’s an actual threat or don’t play it till it’s right

sorry Im very aggressive with my thoughts on that shit

[glad peak]

It’s worse in this case because they literally have enough to attack the table if they attack correctly but decide to just all in on one person

[gritty nest]

I had that happen to me yesterday but instead of a die roll they swung out and killed me

Because I swung at them with one in the air, they were the biggest threat besides another player who was the only one capable of killing them

So instead of going at their biggest threat they swung out at me

Then apologized for it after like they didn’t mean it

[glad peak]

Literally coached them through how to kill everyone (no open mana, no one’s on free spells) but when they didn’t believe me I just told them to kill me to get me out

[gritty nest]

If they didn’t I would have scooped because that game sounded dreadful

But yea it seems like

Poor threat assessment is a constant thing

If I see a turn 1 sol ring I’m vandalblasting that shit

[trail anvil]

remember that desert support from omo precon btw

should go hard

[gritty nest]

Uh

Not off the top of my head

I’ll have to relook through the stuff I own

Desert warfare is one I’m thinking of immediately

[golden plover]

So what do we think is getting on the banlist tomorrow. My money is on "No Changes"

[sudden lava]

Nadu

or Nadu's Shuko

[twilit canyon]

hopefully its no changes

it'd be very irresponsible to ban something right before a big event that ppl have already spent time practicing for

[golden plover]

Nah, too early

I think they would hit Shuko over Nadu

[golden plover]

They said no Modern changes until after the PT

But I'd like to see Amalia go from Pioneer, and One Ring and/or Grief/Fury go from Timeless

[glad peak]

It would be a very bad look to ban anything from mh3 from anything already

[golden plover]

Yeah, Nadu is safe for a couple lists

They're way more likely to hit Shuko

[glad peak]

Even shuko is probably not

[golden plover]

And Shuko is probably not gonna go unless deck is crazy at the PT

Like I said, Puresteel is probably paying for Nadu's crimes at that point

[trail anvil]

they'd ban shuko over nadu 100%, but only if they feel like the long turns are so much of an issue they can't keep it around

besides as far as representation nadu isn't overwhelming in modern yeah?

[golden plover]

Not yet, but it's possible

It's also too early for a call there tho

[copper pecan]

at the very least there probably isn't gonna be any bans in modern

[trail anvil]

what format needs hits rn, legacy?

[lusty trench]

Commander, ban the decks I don’t like

[fallow citrus]

idt any format needs hits rn

legacy isnt in a much different position than it was before I don't think

nadu definitely isnt getting banned there lol

[[cephalid illusionist]] has that base covered

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tor/28/cephalid-illusionist

Cephalid Illusionist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Octopus Wizard
Whenever Cephalid Illusionist becomes the target of a spell or ability, mill three cards.
, : Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt to and dealt by target creature you control this turn.
1/1

[fallow citrus]

well maybe pio needs amalia to die

[sudden lava]

So anyone going to magiccon?

[fallow citrus]

nope

[trail anvil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/s/JwT67XKNZO

bloomburrow leak time

[golden plover]

Crazy good draft

[gritty nest]

would you guys add the generic/staple removal spells (swords/path/beast within/etc.) to 5c decks? or what do you guys think would be best? I'm thinking of adding more removal to Ulalek because all I have is Crib Swap, Kozilek's Return, and Warping Wail in the deck for single target removal

[glad peak]

Some of them but not all

[gritty nest]

thats fair

im thinking of add bovine intervention, abrupt decay, and counterspell

[glad peak]

Counterspell might be a bit too awkward for the mana

[gritty nest]

yea fair, the double pips

[trail anvil]

honestly I'd prefer beast within/generous gift to abrupt decay unless you have a counterspell heavy pod

[gritty nest]

i have a "we dont run interaction" pod

only one person runs interaction most of the time

[sleek ferry]

That sounds like solitaire

No offense

[gritty nest]

i get it

also i found a generous gift

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Wemp5eow3Uive8cv5ZbhtA
-leyline of anticipation, crib swap, Kozilek's Return, Guardian Project
+Abrupt Decay, Bovine Intervention, Abstruse Appropriation, and Generous Gift

how does that sound?

[golden plover]

Oh Gift is makes every card with it unplayable unless they're SUPER standout

[trail anvil]

? why

[golden plover]

You're giving them an advantage every time

[trail anvil]

yeah? removal with downside is an insanely common theme in white

[golden plover]

Like this card is strong because the trade-off is that they get a 1/1 token for their guy

This one is good

But a lot of Gift cards are likely gonna suck depending on the trade-off

Feels very commander

[trail anvil]

I mean sure, but it's not like we haven't had straight-to-commander mechanics or cards before

[golden plover]

Yeah true

[trail anvil]

either way it's an excuse to give a stronger effect so I'd definitely wait to see what they print with it

[golden plover]

I just think in limited or constructes, your gift trade-off has to be very worth it

[gritty nest]

id rather give them an elephant than look at a Field of the dead, or other non creature problem card

[trail anvil]

I mean many good cards in constructed are bad in limited and vice versa

a lot isn't gonna be good 100% of the time

[gritty nest]

thats fair

i mainly look at it via commander though tbh. idk much about 60 card

[sudden lava]

LETS GO

leaks 😄

[trail anvil]

ral looks solid for 4 mana, I could see it seeing play post rotation

[golden plover]

I can't see it play anywhere other than standard

But he's probably decent in standard

He might play better than he reads

But I can't see him doing anything insane in any decks in pioneer or whatever rn

[trail anvil]

jaya is kinda comparable and she was played in monored, but ral has a static instead of the removal

[golden plover]

True, I think the removal and the digging make her slightly better tho

[zinc shard]

Oh hey, Graceful Charity

[gritty nest]

so ive been play testing the Yuma precon out. it needs some work

mainly it needs extra lands and probably a lotus cobra

[lusty trench]

Niche drama time: the mtg finance subreddit is in flames currently as a store called card conduit has been destroying cards sent in they deem counterfeit, but their methods of determining if a card is counterfeit have been under scrutiny with people saying they’re not performing counterfeit tests properly, and alleging they fail cards and pocket them saying they’ve destroyed them

[trail anvil]

isn't that the one that sponsors playing with power?

also are you saying they destroy cards sent to them for sale?? isn't that illegal even if they were counterfeit? like supermarkets can't just take and destroy fake IDs

unless they're paying and destroying, which seems less heinous although they are decreasing the copies in circulation

[lusty trench]

Apparently that’s what they do, and apparently they do not pay out on them

[trail anvil]

bruh whether they're pocketing them or not that's just straight up stealing

they could call any card counterfeit that they wanted to

[lusty trench]

They said in a passive way “would you prefer if we contacted the authorities instead every time”

[trail anvil]

yes

I think pretty much anything is preferable to just blindly trusting them lmao

[lusty trench]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/s/9K7mostzjm

Their reply has like 40 downvotes

[trail anvil]

very shady business practice that I would follow up with a letter from an attorney.
homie an attorney is gonna cost more money than the cards

yeah they have a ton of downvoted comments lol

completely missing the point regardless of how fake the cards are

[lusty trench]

I looked at the green dot test and light test and while they look slightly off to me they seem within wizards quality control expectations

Also there’s no evidence that they didn’t just swap their card for a counterfeit to show these “tests”

And it’s strange they even have the cards to record the tests when requested if they claimed they destroyed them, as that would mean they record every card they test

Like idk what they’re doing here anyway cause at best it leaves the customer unwilling to use them again and at worst it’s legally murky and gives awful pr

[subtle tendon]

Not a scammer but why wouldn’t they just send a counterfeit copy back and pocket the real one instead of destroying it in that case?

[lusty trench]

It’s just odd all around as it just makes you question the authenticity of the company

Presumably they wouldn’t send a fake back because the seller could have proof of the what the card they had looked like and or they probably won’t have a fake on hand

[fallow citrus]

https://vxtwitter.com/PiemontiAndrea/status/1805241273797795868?t=htJL1YHNCSVPv6Z20Ms0lQ&s=19

[lusty trench]

I like that phlage is good enough to stand with the other giants

[golden plover]

People were shitting on Phlage on leak and reveal

Card is very strong and I dunno why people thought "Lighting Helix on a body" was gonna be too slow

[lusty trench]

Hope they make more

[twilit canyon]

cus uro and kroxa are more direct card advantage and in better colors

[golden plover]

Yeah, but people kept going "he's just not worth it"

[rigid scarab]

A good amount of MTG card evaluaters immediately stop looking at a card if it doesn't obviously influence card advantage

[golden plover]

Thing is, it does tho

It's lightning helix and that generates you incremental advantage

It's also recurring

And can become a body

[lusty trench]

I keep forgetting escape cards don’t exile themselves when they leave the battlefield after escaping

Security on theros sucks lmao

[golden plover]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/june-24-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement

Wow who would have guessed

Eyes on Atraxa and Knight Captain in Standard, Amalia in Pioneer, and Nadu in Modern

[granite badge]

If you're commander brained that isn't enough

[glad peak]

Tbh a lot of modern players are decent players but bad evaluators

[sleek ferry]

that applies to most mtg players tbh

[glad peak]

Ok I should rephrase

[sleek ferry]

imo the biggest discrepancy between attitude and actual game skill is legacy players. They talk the most shit, but are the most mid to below average players

[glad peak]

Most mtg players are bad players and bad evaluators

My lgs held a bigger than normal legacy event with some proxies allowed and the modern player who’s never touched legacy won

[zinc shard]

"There's a lot going on in Timeless right now. None of it is remotely fair, but so far, it all seems fairly balanced."

[twilit canyon]

yeah

[sleek ferry]

Makes sense to me

Basically saying everything’s broken which makes it balanced

[golden plover]

I mean, I still think the Legacy issue of Grief into Reanimate is too much is definitely a potential problem

But they're probably not gonna hit Grief while MH3 is the newest set

[twilit canyon]

its not

scam is doing very poorly for a win %

in timeless

[sudden lava]

People are still coping on orzhov bats for bloomburrow

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/6y29h8unij8d1.png?auto=webp&s=e5e0c4fc56e23f7dec037330eaff9e30eef9a377

[sudden lava]

rumored precon names

[trail anvil]

wait then which one is supposed to be the junk magic one lol

[golden plover]

These are Duskmorn

Although there's also no source for this

I can come up with Duskmorn precon names all day

Final Girl, Inside the House, Creature Feature, Done to Death, Low Budget, etc

[sudden lava]

Junk magic one?

this isnt bloomburrow

[golden plover]

But yeah, random names means literally nothing

[trail anvil]

oh that's like way in the fuckin future

[sudden lava]

yup

[trail anvil]

yeah I'm not gonna get much from deck names, we don't even have colors yet lmao

[sudden lava]

My best guess on how the leaks happened if real, magiccon amsterdam probably will give us the info officially as a teaser

||Also "Jump Scare" would 100% be flash matters||

[golden plover]

Again, I can make up names all day and say stores have these listed

They might be right, but there's nothing to theorize off of

"Guys do you think we'll see a Dockside reprint in the Cult Classic precon"

[trail anvil]

it's okay, the answer would be no. too expensive, gotta go in commander masters 2 at best

[lusty trench]

Beat me to it lmao

[golden plover]

Yeah dockside wasn't a good pick, considering no precon will ever have dockside

Point is it's stupid easy to come up with precon names

[stark skiff]

Flash Demons/Horrors/etc would actually be flavorful and might be fun

[trail anvil]

I couldn't tell you without actually seeing a deck lol

you can make a demon deck right now with vedalken orrery and it would be flash demons, but I have zero idea how that would play out

[sudden lava]

Card with enters abilities, and cards that trigger when a creature enters on opponents turn

[golden plover]

I mean, you can make that rn

I would assume it'd be more likely to be a beginner reanimator deck

Since that's an archetype people actually play

[stark skiff]

I meant more flavorful since it’s based on old slasher/horror movies so jump scares with flash makes sense

[golden plover]

I mean that makes sense, but I don't really see how to build a whole edh deck around the concept

[trail anvil]

thank you for explaining what flash decks do, I had no idea whatsoever

[zinc shard]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/introducing-arena-direct

[trail anvil]

idk how to feel about this, would this not fuck with LGS sealed events?

I guess for people that are physically unable to attend those this would be nice

[golden plover]

Yeah, I'm torn on it

It's like nice for people without an LGS, but it also feels like it cuts into LGSes

[trail anvil]

for what it's worth this is the same price as a sealed event at an LGS, but you get no paper cards in the process unless you win out entirely

I guess it's like a mini arena open

do you just play until you get one loss?

[gritty nest]

Bagels

Gonna be my everything counters

[golden plover]

3 losses, it's Bo1

And yeah, not getting the entry packs might deter some people

But I still don't think I love the idea of encouraging online play for sealed over LGSes

[trail anvil]

is that listed somewhere in the article?

[golden plover]

Nah, but Bo1 is always 3 losses

[trail anvil]

man olivia really influenced every omo player who wanted to get custom counters lol

[golden plover]

Bo3 is always 1 loss

They don't list it, but that's the standard

[trail anvil]

isn't 6 wins moderately easy to get with 3 losses?

ig they are still making a profit they are anyways cause they're just printing cardboard but since a certain number of players have to go x-3

[fallow citrus]

I thought those were polo mints ngl

[gritty nest]

Lmao

The d20 is a test print to see if it’ll work for what I need

I’m really hoping it does work out

[golden plover]

Yeah, I can fairly consistently get 6-X in sealed for the set and I'm not amazing at sealed

Whoops pinged

But also, it's a $40 entry

Wait it's $50, right?

[gritty nest]

Idk

[trail anvil]

5000 gems is probably something like $46 idk but yeah something in the neighborhood

I'm not good enough at sealed to know and I think I'd rather just go for an in person event

[gritty nest]

I just realized that the Sheldon spellbook lair ships next month

[glad peak]

Huh they inadvertently confirmed what they price mh3 boxes to be

If out of stock on mh3 boxes, they’ll just give $250

[sleek ferry]

Arena direct had me till I saw it was 5k Gem entry lol

[stark skiff]

wow surprised it took this long

[gritty nest]

For the lair?

[stark skiff]

yeah

thought it was out there in the wild already

[gritty nest]

No

It was print on demand so it was shipping later

[stark skiff]

oh thats right

meanwhile Miku SLD is all sold out lmao

[gritty nest]

True

Did you see the cards in Sheldon spellbook?

[stark skiff]

yup waiting to get some of them myself

[gritty nest]

Oh did you order one or buying one after

[stark skiff]

oh no meant singles wise

[gritty nest]

Ah sorry

I’m hoping the bonus card is arcane signet

[stark skiff]

Inkshield and Teferi's are the singles I want

[gritty nest]

Sol ring command tower but no arcane signet?

[stark skiff]

CT/SR maybe I guess

[gritty nest]

Those are the three imo

[gritty nest]

?

[stark skiff]

might pick them up idk they dont really call to me.

[gritty nest]

What do you mean by this

[stark skiff]

^

[gritty nest]

I don’t know what CT/SR means

[stark skiff]

Command Tower/Sol Ring lol

[gritty nest]

Oh

Sorry

[stark skiff]

nah np lol weird shorthand i know

I like my Fallout Command Tower so dont see the need to get another one I dont even care for

[gritty nest]

Fair

[stark skiff]

and the sol ring is neat but I do want the Fallout one more lol

[gritty nest]

I’m debating on keeping my pride deck after this Friday, but if I don’t idk where I’ll put the ring and tower

The issue with the deck is the deck needs the commanders for the flavor and strategy

What’s the fallout one?

[gritty nest]

Oh that’s nice

My commanders btw is Saheeli Suns Brilliance and Huatli, Poet of Unity

The idea is copy dinosaurs and use artifact support to make it stronger and consistent

[waxen timber]

Hidestu and Kairi is so cheesy in Standard. My opponent was at 22, I was at 5 and they had lethal attackers if they just attacked. They activate pick your poison to make me sac H & K, which gets me push// pull from the top and deals 8 to them and enough blockers to not die. Then they take 15 from H & K dying cause Shadow of mortality was next on top

[gritty nest]

What do you guys think of [[Agent of Treachery]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m20/43/agent-of-treachery

Agent of Treachery <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Rogue
When Agent of Treachery enters the battlefield, gain control of target permanent.
At the beginning of your end step, if you control three or more permanents you don't own, draw three cards.
"The more secrets you have, the more easily you become my pawn."
2/3

[copper pecan]

hated it when it was in standard

it really shouldn't be able to hit lands

[gritty nest]

What about in EDH?

[golden plover]

It's fine to bad in edh if you don't have 100 flickers

[copper pecan]

yeah when it was in standard what really made it get out of hand was thassa repeatedly flickering it

[gritty nest]

I’ve thought about adding it to gonti

But I’m mixed on it because of when I complained about when my friend ran it

He would blink it a bunch in Brago and steal commanders and lands

[trail anvil]

yeah if you do blink it people will get very salty

[gritty nest]

I wouldn’t be blinking it myself

But gonti is about stealing so

My only issues ever with their Brago deck was blinking agent and reflector mage constantly while also basically pub stomping at the time

Fuck it ill probably just buy one, if they don’t like it then like

We agreed to not give a shit what we build anymore

Forgot to say thank you for the small input

[trail anvil]

apparently it's 2 losses, not 3

[stark skiff]

which Ancient Tomb art do you guys like best. they're all roughly the same price range and just trying to see which one to get as I like all of them lol

[sleek ferry]

I kinda wish it was a standard open for a win a box tbh

But that’s just because I sucked at sealed formats

But have the utmost confidence in my constructed skills

[gritty nest]

I like the old one or the lotr one most

[sleek ferry]

I teched in razorlash into rakdos anvil, best decision I ever made

[copper pecan]

bloomburrow be like

[sudden lava]

||whats funny is you dont have to give the fish to the same person who's creature is getting yeeted||

[copper pecan]

oh i didn't even notice that, that's great

[gritty nest]

Wait what?

[copper pecan]

this

[gritty nest]

That’s funny

[sudden lava]

new leak

a new land from bloomburrow

[trail anvil]

emo band mixtape-ass leaks

||nykthos meets gaea's cradle for typal strategies sounds nuts as fuck, instant chase card||

[waxen timber]

Seems winmore

[sudden lava]

its also only a rare

supposedly

[glad peak]

Doesn’t enter tapped and don’t lose a mana ability at worst case, not too bad

[last glen]

Needing to control three creatures to generate net one mana seems rough for splashability for tribal strats

Could you plausibly control three creatures before your third land drop?

[fallow citrus]

in some formats sure

you can go forest, elf, turn 2 elf, turn 3 creature

in modern it could probably be "we have gaea's cradle at home"

[trail anvil]

bruh the mh3 survey has "unofficial card leaks" as an option under "how did you engage with mh3" lmao

and "eldrazi web fiction"

[twilit canyon]

why wouldnt wotc be aware of the ways players engage with their franchise

may as well ask how big of a market they have there

[trail anvil]

I mean we already have the conspiracy theory that wizards leaks stuff on purpose to judge reactions, I wouldn't be surprised if they were open to it more but like

normally asking about that on a survey is kinda weird just cause I don't know what they'd gather otherwise

[trail anvil]

they did ask standard rotation questions too on this survey

[trail anvil]

holy shit I didn't know about [[trade routes]], this is perfect for omo @gritty nest

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/9ed/108/trade-routes

Trade Routes <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
: Return target land you control to its owner's hand.
, Discard a land card: Draw a card.
The wise, the righteous, the mighty—the merchant feeds them all.

[gritty nest]

get rid of lands you no longer need

but i feel like im missing something

[trail anvil]

bounce [[urza's tower]] and go mana positive, re-use [[talon gates of madara]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/1053/urzas-tower

Urza's Tower

Land — Urza's Tower
: Add . If you control an Urza's Mine and an Urza's Power-Plant, add instead.
Urza studied the creations of the Thran not simply to learn from them, but to surpass them.

https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/82/talon-gates-of-madara

Talon Gates of Madara

Land — Gate
When Talon Gates of Madara enters the battlefield, up to one target creature phases out.
: Add .
, : Add one mana of any color.
: Put Talon Gates of Madara from your hand onto the battlefield.

[trail anvil]

also works extremely well with cards like azusa

[gritty nest]

ah fair

[golden plover]

Why do you mean we have Nykthos for tribal

Wait worse case scenario it's color fixing. Jesus

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/z7OXddx0r5s

They got the author for the episode

[sleek ferry]

Is arena down right now? @copper pecan

Figured I’d ask you since you play the most

[zinc shard]

I think they said something about maintenance todayu

[copper pecan]

seems to be up for me

[sleek ferry]

Yeah I tried queuing up and kept getting network errors

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/filthymtgcasual/status/1805599438288863242?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Jen_FilthyMTGCasuals (@filthymtgcasual) on X

BLOOMBURROW PREVIEW EVENTS
•Magic Story: July 2
•Debut and Previews Begin: July 9
•Card Image Gallery and Previews Complete: July 19
•MTG Arena Release: July 30
•Global Tabletop Release: August 2

I forgot about the amazing full art season lands!!

Twitter · Jun 25, 2024, 1:50 PM

[golden plover]

Lmao @lusty trench textless cards don't have their stats now either

[twilit canyon]

steve returns

this art is so good

[golden plover]

It's a good art, and STE is a better pick for a textless card than most others

Wish he had his stats tho

[twilit canyon]

its such an iconic card that u already know

[golden plover]

Since I can't remember off the top of my head if he's a 1/1 or a 1/2

[twilit canyon]

1/1

dies to obm

[golden plover]

Fair, should still at least have the stats

Iirc the textless [[Dauthi Voidwalker]] has it's stats

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/81/dauthi-voidwalker

Dauthi Voidwalker <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Dauthi Rogue
Shadow (This creature can block or be blocked by only creatures with shadow.)
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, instead exile it with a void counter on it.
, Sacrifice Dauthi Voidwalker: Choose an exiled card an opponent owns with a void counter on it. You may play it this turn without paying its mana cost.
3/2

[golden plover]

Yup, it does

[lusty trench]

I like a lot of the textless cards art but that Steve doesn't beat the peak steve

[golden plover]

He's just chilling

[lusty trench]

Pure vibes

I also have nostalgia for this as the store thief tried to steal this from me by sliding it under his deck, I pulled it back out and they caught his ass on camera

He is dubbed stealproof steve

[fallow citrus]

wait I just realised

you can just play 4c omnath beans in timeless because of mh3

[twilit canyon]

yea

deck is kinda decent

[fallow citrus]

might have to work my wildcards towards building it

beans, commandeer, solitude.. the good old cards

[twilit canyon]

[[jewel mine overseer]] is honestly better than ajani in more than a few spots

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ywoe/21/jewel-mine-overseer

Jewel Mine Overseer <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Noble
When Jewel Mine Overseer enters the battlefield, conjure seven cards named Seven Dwarves on top of your library. They perpetually gain "When this creature enters the battlefield, draw a card." Then shuffle.
At the beginning of your upkeep, exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn.
3/3

[trail anvil]

is omnath optimal in timeless?

[fallow citrus]

possibly but I wouldn't recommend it

ig bean and big spells are still good

you're probably playing more bant control though

[twilit canyon]

omnath is fine

theres more broken stuff do be doing imo

[sudden lava]

I'm thinking another leak will happen tonight

both the 23rd and 24th had bloomburrow leaks from the same person

[twilit canyon]

just saw someone fail to flip ral after storming off for 10 spells

[sudden lava]

[lusty trench]

Damn they got pinged for 10?

[trail anvil]

lmao wow

[lusty trench]

Tell that dude to never play krark sakashima god damn

[trail anvil]

I remember seeing a playing with power episode where the krarkashima player managed to lose like 7 flips in a row while having both on board for like one or two turn cycles

[lusty trench]

After testing ulalek vs zhuldock, ulalek just under performs for me, the titans are demanding in cost as are the good eldrazi, having to delay playing them to get potential value later hurts

There’s also very few eldrazi worth the colour dip

[stark skiff]

yup go with the secondary commander

new fun way to mess around with eldrazi scion/spawn

[trail anvil]

the eldrazi with color costs aren't amazing but kinda fun with ulalek

but yeah azlask seems good more reliably

[gritty nest]

Ulalek for shenanigans, Azlask for reliability

[trail anvil]

man playing omo in a lower power pod is not fun at all, I gotta remember that lol

I had a really fortunate tempo swing by ghostly flickering [[talon gates of madara]] to stop the other powerful deck from copying my [[terastodon]], then blowing up 3 of their permanents in response

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/82/talon-gates-of-madara

Talon Gates of Madara

Land — Gate
When Talon Gates of Madara enters the battlefield, up to one target creature phases out.
: Add .
, : Add one mana of any color.
: Put Talon Gates of Madara from your hand onto the battlefield.

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/207/terastodon

Terastodon <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elephant
When Terastodon enters the battlefield, you may destroy up to three target noncreature permanents. For each permanent put into a graveyard this way, its controller creates a 3/3 green Elephant creature token.
9/9

[trail anvil]

did I mention how busted talon gates of madara is today cause holy shit this card is one of the best lands in commander

[gritty nest]

[[Ghostly Flicker]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/98/ghostly-flicker

Ghostly Flicker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Exile two target artifacts, creatures, and/or lands you control, then return those cards to the battlefield under your control.
Sometimes it's useful to take a break from existence.

[gritty nest]

huh, the more you know

so stopped at locals today, asked them for a small list of stuff to be pulled aside for Yuma, so this Friday i should have more stuff to make the deck half decent

i managed to get my [[Desert Warfare]] back, because apparently my dumb ass traded it in when I took it out of Omo

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/64/desert-warfare

Desert Warfare <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
Whenever you sacrifice a Desert and whenever a Desert card is put into your graveyard from your hand or library, put that card onto the battlefield under your control at the beginning of your next end step.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you control five or more Deserts, create that many 1/1 red, green, and white Sand Warrior creature tokens. They gain haste.

[trail anvil]

nice

tell me how he plays, he seems really fun

[gritty nest]

out the box hes fun, just needs a better mana base, ramp, maybe a crucible of worlds/more cards that lets you play lands from grave, and play additional lands

desert warfare + extra land drops will help the deck out a lot

[stark skiff]

Yeah been waiting on a decent list for him. Seems interesting enough but idk how to build it lol

[trail anvil]

I get the general gist just cause there's a bunch of desert and lands in graveyard cards, but I haven't touched him yet

[gritty nest]

so i thought [[The Mending of Dominaria]] will shuffle itself back in, turns out i was wrong

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/197/the-mending-of-dominaria

The Mending of Dominaria <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I, II — Mill two cards, then you may return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
III — Return all land cards from your graveyard to the battlefield, then shuffle your graveyard into your library.

[gritty nest]

it plays like naya landfall but it uses Yuma for a more sacrifice recursion theme. The new Hazezon is better at board presence/more consistent land playing (he outright lets you play deserts from your Graveyard.) Yuma on the other hand is a bit slower at token production, but makes bigger tokens and is card draw

[trail anvil]

I'm guessing he's cheap a lot of the time due to cost reduction?

[gritty nest]

sometimes, ive only gotten him as low as a 5 drop once so far, the cycling lands help but some more discard outlets wouldn't hurt

Fetch Lands and/or Surveil lands would help a lot

i realized once I tear apart saheeli huatli, i'll have an almost perfect landbase for Yuma. Shocks and a few other sets of duals

[trail anvil]

I'd imagine. hopefully at least the common ones are cheap though

[gritty nest]

the actual good fetch lands (Arid Mesa/Windswept Heath/Wooded Foothills) I think are relatively cheap now

18, 10, and 11 for all 3

thankfully I had an Elegant Parlor already, just found it

[gritty nest]

Would buying the AC starter kit to try out a 60 card format be dumb?

[trail anvil]

I'd just play mtg arena, it's free

oh shit midweek magic is historic artisan again the best format on arena

[stark skiff]

Just found out about Spreading Plague and now wish it was reprinted for Eldrazi lol

[gritty nest]

Never been a fan of online sims myself though

[[Spreading Plague]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/inv/125/spreading-plague

Spreading Plague <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, destroy all other creatures that share a color with it. They can't be regenerated.
The cruelest strain of plague keeps its hosts alive long enough to return home and infect their families.

[gritty nest]

Oh I saw someone run this in their Ulalek deck at locals

My mind had a brain fart and forgot Ulalek had devoid so I KO’d him

[zinc shard]

I am 6 games into drafting MH3 and I have seen [[Gift of the Viper]] in 5 of them

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/156/gift-of-the-viper

Gift of the Viper <:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Put a +1/+1 counter, a reach counter, and a deathtouch counter on target creature. Untap it.
Ohran mages willingly endure the bites of vipers, believing the snakes bestow great power on those who survive their venom.

[zinc shard]

Make that 6

7-2, never casted Kozilek

[sudden lava]

Say what you want about the rest of the AC set

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQ-BhOeXEAE_l9u?format=jpg&name=medium

The new island art is gorgeous

[gritty nest]

That looks nice

[clever sun]

Boring

[copper pecan]

i keep thinking the set symbol is a staple remover for some reason

[clever sun]

LOL kinda

[zinc shard]

I appreciate that it's an actual Island. Not something that can be said about all Islands

[clever sun]

That's the most boring part

[zinc shard]

I mean what could they do in the Assassins Creed setting

[twilit canyon]

interesting island art i'd imagine

idt the art is bad but yea it is p boring

and the set symbol is shit too

[sudden lava]

I wonder if either will be done for squirreled away precon

[gritty nest]

I feel like theyll just do 2 Golgari commanders to be simple

[sudden lava]

Then whats the third foil legendary?

[gritty nest]

I don’t know

I know nothing about bloom burrow

Other than its animal plane

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/mingyangchen4/status/1806037851307725054?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Mingyang Chen (@MingyangChen4) on X

Dreadnought！
#PT Amsterdam#

Twitter · Jun 26, 2024, 6:52 PM

[sudden lava]

cuz they said we are getting 3 foil commanders in all the precons

which is sus

[gritty nest]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallow citrus]

no way we're playing bootleg stiflenaught

[twilit canyon]

if the shoe fits

also this list is sweet

nulldrifter is absurd when stifled

cast draw 2 and grt a 4/4 flyer with annihilator 1

[fallow citrus]

yeah I concede it's cool

[trail anvil]

what's the 2 mana blue card above reprieve?

[twilit canyon]

dress down

[[dress down]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/39/dress-down

Dress Down <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Flash
When Dress Down enters the battlefield, draw a card.
Creatures lose all abilities.
At the beginning of the end step, sacrifice Dress Down.

[twilit canyon]

flash in during opponent's end step

or just a good defensive value card

[trail anvil]

ah

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-gif-19808527

[barren cairn]

Found eldrazi incursion at a target but man 73$ for a precon is eugh

[lusty trench]

Do not pay that for that deck lmao

[gritty nest]

Imo it’s one of the better precons but still not worth

[trail anvil]

for incursion? is that not pretty worth when it's still going for over $100?

[gritty nest]

I mainly say it because fuck target

Also I didn’t know it was still over $100 on the secondary tbh

[trail anvil]

eldrazi is real big

[gritty nest]

Fair enough

I’ve only ever bought one precon on the secondary market, it was a the Riders of Rohan deck

[stark skiff]

Wow this is neat never knew about it

[sleek ferry]

I hope you guys bought the bundle when it came out

[sleek ferry]

The more I look at this list, the sicker it gets

[gritty nest]

What happened

[sleek ferry]

So many good decisions were made in deckbuilding

[twilit canyon]

thats my mfing son right there

magebane lizard my beloved

[atomic harness]

goated

[sudden lava]

english versions also provided

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1255733304120836136/RDT_20240627_1355197562626379792998697.jpg?ex=667e3446&is=667ce2c6&hm=312dc9ef6b618c9c040fb744568d9ff7c849318cba33453b9218c15b4fcb90dd&=&format=webp&width=390&height=544

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1255733304351789056/RDT_20240627_1354323535476212362513813.jpg?ex=667e3446&is=667ce2c6&hm=dd1be82776c53de4ab654f294afe288e99506f4423f2a118d0ba1f3c8a6c8bc6&=&format=webp&width=390&height=544

[gritty nest]

I thought those were proxies for a sec

[copper pecan]

oh are these bloomburrow cards?

[gritty nest]

Looks like Duskmourne

[copper pecan]

the set symbol suggests bloomburrow

[sleek ferry]

Is that the actual set symbol or commander set symbol?

[sudden lava]

its duskmourne

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Lumra-Bellow-of-the-Woods-Bloomburrow-Spoiler-400x559.png

[copper pecan]

never mind it looks like these are actually from duskmourn

[sudden lava]

Bloomburrow has leaf symbol, and BLB at bottom

[sleek ferry]

Tf is duskmourne

[sudden lava]

Set after bloomburrow, horror themed

[gritty nest]

The next set after bloomburrow

[sudden lava]

an old combo, with a new face

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ugtgy84DiQiOFRxGCZoDtd1AmqDuaPVnI9FBotEi-Ko/%3F1625193373/https/cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad4de9f1-7a39-45af-828e-c59234d9e9b9.jpg?format=webp&width=391&height=544

[sleek ferry]

Trying to think, does enduring tenacity have any standard implications or is life gain losing too much post rotation

[sudden lava]

the important part is bond (or enduring tenacity) + exquisite blood= Lethal

[gritty nest]

Gotta love 2 card combos

[copper pecan]

overlord of the hauntwoods reminds me a lot of the green abyss royals from duel masters

[sudden lava]

We will see this at magiccon (Japanese account so their tomorrow is the 28th)

More duskmourn art

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRDOI6qWwAAaZoN?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRDOMCVW0AAqKPz?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRDOPhRXcAAmpQb?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRDOSSxXQAEf3cY?format=jpg&name=large

[gritty nest]

Dark souls boss

[trail anvil]

holy shit this art goes hard as hell

[subtle tendon]

what card is this 🤔

[stark skiff]

How does all this take place in a mansion lmao

[gritty nest]

Maybe the mansion imploded part way

[trail anvil]

wait this is nuts

[sudden lava]

Enduring something (forgot the second part of the name), seems each color is getting 1 enduring enchantment creature

[sudden lava]

Either it's happening in the backyard, or the mansion is bigger on the inside

[sudden lava]

tbf, we've seen this exact effect before. It's just now we got it on a snek body

[trail anvil]

on a body that turns into a much harder to remove body after it dies once

[sudden lava]

yeah, takes 2 removal rather then just 1 enchantment removal now

[gritty nest]

Unless it’s exile removal?

But idk how prevalent non destruction removal is in other formats

[sudden lava]

fair

[twilit canyon]

phelia the goat fr

literally killed my opponent from flickering their t1 chalice on 1

chalice on 0 does nothing and they died with wurmcoil in play

crazy

[stark skiff]

Some foil pick ups for today. @rigid scarab @atomic harness @sleek ferry

[gritty nest]

That’s nice

[stark skiff]

Finally got the Surge Arcane

[gritty nest]

Nice

[golden plover]

"Nadu isn't even that good"
"Nadu isn't doing broken things in modern"

Dude is 1/4th of the field

[lusty trench]

Just hit shuko smile

Just hit nomads en-kor smile

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9khMmgql1g

[gritty nest]

Nah dude, he’s pretty mid

[golden plover]

Like I said, I'm like 75% sure they'll hit Puresteel Paladin and go "we solved the problem'

[golden plover]

Maybe turn length will help make sure Nadu is the hit

Although... It took like 2 years to get Yorion banned

[gritty nest]

Magic the gathering moment

[fallow citrus]

people will get used to playing against it

it's only going to be like yawg was

[golden plover]

Issue is that the turns take forever and they're generally a very linear MU

If Nadu makes it, you win

If Nadu doesn't, you lose

[sudden lava]

oh people have cooked for the new snake

turn 3 zur into turn 4 snek

if it touches anyone, everyone dead

[atomic harness]

@sleek ferry

[twilit canyon]

just like yawg

and yawg has infinitely more complex lines

[atomic harness]

yawg is cooler

word me misty

[twilit canyon]

give it a minute cus ppl went in expecting ruby storm and preparing for it not nadu

[atomic harness]

oh also wow nearly all the old decks are in others (aside from tron)

is it primeover...

[twilit canyon]

1st new event with all the new cards so of course ppl are trying the new stuff

[atomic harness]

ya new toys and stuff

is mono black grief scam?

[twilit canyon]

yea

they dropped red to not lose as much life for necro

[atomic harness]

[[necrodominance]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/102/necrodominance

Necrodominance <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Enchantment
Skip your draw step.
At the beginning of your end step, you may pay any amount of life. If you do, draw that many cards.
Your maximum hand size is five.
If a card or token would be put into your graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.

[twilit canyon]

murktide > wizards in modern. those jeskai lists are gonna fall off

and domain zoo is as good if not better than boros energy

[atomic harness]

ya im surprised w the jeskai wizards stuff that seems too meme

thugs was giga hyping boros energy im out

[twilit canyon]

its a good deck

but its not the greatest deck

[atomic harness]

ye that's valid

if you're casting necrodom t3 and tapping out do you uh try to find soul spike to keep interaction?

[twilit canyon]

you dig to spike generally

and then you pop spike then and there to not discard to hand size

[atomic harness]

are there other free black instants you can get

[twilit canyon]

flare of malice

[gritty nest]

How would that even work with the snake? I thought lifelink only triggered with damage

[atomic harness]

okay necrodom kinda hot ngl

[twilit canyon]

u can think of it like a really fat burn deck lol

[atomic harness]

I like it

[glad peak]

Has energy taken over the grave based removal suite of unholy heat?

Actually how good is the energy removal/draw suite, I haven’t really tested it in murktide

[twilit canyon]

it hasnt

as a whole

mostly cus murktide still easily fuels the grave

it can be inefficient to run energy stuff

[lusty trench]

Its been a lot of fun to watch people figure out the mh3 meta

[sudden lava]

Lose life counts as damage

see sanguine bond

[gritty nest]

So

Have zur and tenacity

Swing with tenacity, deal damage

[gritty nest]

Lifelink trigger
Gain life
Tenacity trigger
Lose life
Nothing happens

[trail anvil]

I thought it was the other way around, damage causes loss of life

[gritty nest]

You’d need exquisite tenacity and zur then