Magic the Gathering

[golden plover]

That's 100% it, yeah

Also deconfirms the totem armor all that glitters aura

Although that thing was fake as hell

[sleek ferry]

I've been getting consistently gamed on turn 3 in standard since coming back lol

[golden plover]

Lmao I'm in a chat where they're calling [[Ulalek, Fused Atrocity]] one of the most broken commanders of all time. Literally what does he even do??

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/4/ulalek-fused-atrocity

Ulalek, Fused Atrocity <:manacw:1242710127522484306><:manacu:1242710125576454194><:manacb:1242710122304770078><:manacr:1242710123999264800><:manacg:1242710123210870824>

Legendary Creature — Eldrazi
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Whenever you cast an Eldrazi spell, spell, you may pay . If you do, copy all spells you control, then copy all other activated and triggered abilities you control. You may choose new targets for the copies. (Mana abilities can't be copied.)
2/5

[modern minnow]

wym its a 17 mana win the game* card

emrakul is 15 mana win the game and that cards banned

[golden plover]

Like you copy [[All is Dust]] to get around a counterspell?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/800/all-is-dust

All Is Dust <:mana7:292901508540792835>

Tribal Sorcery — Eldrazi
Each player sacrifices all permanents they control that are one or more colors.
"The emergence of the Eldrazi isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long as you've already lived a fulfilling and complete life without regrets." —Javad Nasrin, Ondu relic hunter

[modern minnow]

i mean u get 4 eldrazi cast triggers

[golden plover]

It only copies the cast trigger tho, right? Since it doesn't even ignore the legend rule

I guess you could like play [[ Desolation Twins]] and get 4 10/10s with no keywords or evasion lmao

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/82/desolation-twin

Desolation Twin <:mana10:292901508851302400>

Creature — Eldrazi
When you cast this spell, create a 10/10 colorless Eldrazi creature token.
"With precise coordination and enough blood spilled, one can be driven off, even brought down. But two . . . that's a lot of blood." —Munda, ambush leader
10/10

[golden plover]

But for 12 mana, do you really just want 4 dudes?

[modern minnow]

idk if theres good cheap eldrazi cast triggers im not thinking of rn

[golden plover]

Your best bet is probably something like [[Thought Knot Seer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ogw/9/thought-knot-seer

Thought-Knot Seer <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manac:292901508943577088>

Creature — Eldrazi
( represents colorless mana.)
When Thought-Knot Seer enters the battlefield, target opponent reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it and exile that card.
When Thought-Knot Seer leaves the battlefield, target opponent draws a card.
4/4

[modern minnow]

very cute

[golden plover]

But 6 mana rip 2 is like... Whatever

Well it's a total of 13 mana actually

[modern minnow]

card is fun but idk if u can call a commander really broken if it doesnt crack like the top 30

[golden plover]

Honestly I think the best thing to use him for is a secret storm commander but then you're forced to run eldrazi cards

You could like set up half your storm investment, drop a thought knot, copy the stack and hit them with 2 grapeshots for half off

This sounds terrible tho

[modern minnow]

dont u have to play like flashline or smth for that too

[golden plover]

Yeah, the more I think about this the worse an idea it is

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1243214746615025755/mws231xsv62d1.png?ex=6650a975&is=664f57f5&hm=30ed8f92a4338f87df570cb3be388457e1216fffaac91854a06faa3ecc63b0cb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=471&height=661

ooze brushwag????????

[lusty trench]

It looks like it knows my secrets

[rigid scarab]

And is going to post them all

On 4Chan

[golden plover]

I hate it

[subtle sierra]

Eldrazi spell, spell,

[golden plover]

Spell spell

[subtle tendon]

for a card that is the fused form of 2 titans, that sure does not feel as cool as them

[modern minnow]

s p e l l

[golden plover]

Technically it's their fused remains

But yeah, he's kinda undewhelming

Bolt land cycle

All the backs are "takes 3 or enters tapped"

[rigid scarab]

Can't wait for all the casual edh youtubers to try and convince me why these are auto includes

[sleek ferry]

doesn't take much to convince you sickle tbf

[rigid scarab]

????????

[subtle tendon]

so these either can be lands or the other cards?

[rigid scarab]

Yes

[subtle tendon]

is there like a downside to them?

[glad peak]

Eh the red one doesn’t look too bad for casual play, take out a utility land but for 3

[rigid scarab]

The land sides either come into play tapped, or you pay 3 life to have them come untapped

[subtle tendon]

oh ok

was abotu to say, why wouldnt every deck just play these then

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/uw3zv6bk472d1.png?auto=webp&s=3f4801d9bea304ea6adcc8806407523cfe734c14

Toxic Deluge

@clever sun this is huge for DS right?

Wipes their board and lets you pay down for shadow

[fallow citrus]

we love a good amulet titan playable

[lusty trench]

I was about to say this land looks strangely primeval titan shaped

[sleek ferry]

oh this is nice

wonder if we got a full cycle of these

[clever sun]

Oh shit yeah

[golden plover]

Oh it also won't kill your Shadow unless X=13 or more

It'll always survive at at least 1

[fallow citrus]

there's this one too

so I assume a full cycle yeah

[golden plover]

The red one too

It exerts and gives them haste

[trail anvil]

nice reprint in general too

[golden plover]

Yeah, it's a commander card that's very good outside of commander

[trail anvil]

so red one is basically just worse field of ruin

unless you really wanna hit a basic land for some reason

[golden plover]

True

[trail anvil]

is that snow land exile a thing in modern

[golden plover]

But they don't like land destruction now

[fallow citrus]

I mean people don't really play many basics so like it isn't that bad

there was the whole uh

indestructible lands and [[cleansing wildfire]] deck that keeps somehow sticking around

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/znr/137/cleansing-wildfire

Cleansing Wildfire <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Destroy target land. Its controller may search their library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Draw a card.
Every rebirth looks like a death.

[clever sun]

It's a version of [[Stone Rain]] with an untapped land latched on

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/9ed/221/stone-rain

Stone Rain <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Destroy target land.

[trail anvil]

only if you're facing a deck running no basics

[golden plover]

It's also a weird combat trick

[fallow citrus]

nah the idea is like

you drop this and they drew their only basic so now they dont get a land

or they only play like 2 so you strip 1 shock for a single mana option + the last 2 you draw are permanent land removal

[clever sun]

But it's on a land

The big thing about this is that you are playing a land destruction deck so it's just more of it built on top of existing options

[glad peak]

Time for obosh red with 8 field of ruins

[trail anvil]

actually I misread that second effect too, that looks like a really easy way to push with aggro

[trail anvil]

but I guess that makes sense too

holy landfall aggro

[sleek ferry]

sheesh

[twilit canyon]

im not paying 2 mana for this

maybe in standard

[trail anvil]

the field-wide +2/+0 on a fetch land isn't enough, especially with multiples?

[twilit canyon]

no

[glad peak]

What field

[trail anvil]

darn

[twilit canyon]

yea lol

playing a creature in modern that doesnt immediately become a problem is paramount to spending mana on nothing

[trail anvil]

welp time to use this in commander

pumping up a scute swarm board sounds funny

[glad peak]

It works in our increasingly increasing number of whack decks

What number are we at now, 16whack?

[twilit canyon]

yea

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/4pm8pf8sk72d1.png?auto=webp&s=1adecd314fad5b104e9b2e1ca95773e6ab450f47

https://preview.redd.it/qcyrt7w1n72d1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=44ee29467ec6c0bac877f1266f931224505d8223

[sleek ferry]

Oh, another clone for kinnan

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/jvdcpoxnw72d1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=286541e9b4752217969f3a77f42920a854fe5f46

At least it was downshifted?

[twilit canyon]

reef worm lets fucking goooo

[golden plover]

It sounds kinda funny to use the aristocrat goblin to kill it a few times in limited

But other than that...

[glad peak]

Woooo reef worm

[fallow citrus]

the shreckmobil...

[sleek ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-rizz-rizz-gif-11157824601050747846

[subtle tendon]

the worm from attack on titan finally ha sa card

[subtle tendon]

the normal sowing mycospawn art is terrible 🤮

[trail anvil]

I like that this one can just casually turn into ezuri's predation if you have enough modified creatures lol

[golden plover]

That's the gorilla from [[Guttural Response]] or whatever it's called

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dds/56/guttural-response

Guttural Response <:manarg:292901508738056193>

Instant
Counter target blue instant spell.
A savage cry with the power to shatter minds.

[golden plover]

I always thought that card art was so weird

[lusty trench]

IM FUCKING SORRY??

What do you MEAN it's cyclonic as a triggered ability from grave FOR FREE

Frogmyr looking at your opponents field

[twilit canyon]

jesus

lmfao

[copper pecan]

[[kozilek's return]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ogw/98/kozileks-return

Kozilek's Return <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Kozilek's Return deals 2 damage to each creature.
Whenever you cast an Eldrazi creature spell with mana value 7 or greater, you may exile Kozilek's Return from your graveyard. If you do, Kozilek's Return deals 5 damage to each creature.

[twilit canyon]

bouncing a nonland and in a better color for eldrazi atm

its better

[copper pecan]

yeah probably

[trail anvil]

jesus fucking christ

[sleek ferry]

This card is crazy and all

But can we talk about that full art?

[twilit canyon]

no

[trail anvil]

ulalek players about to make people real annoyed

[lusty trench]

Your deck? Exiled, your hand? Less than mine, your field? Gone

[golden plover]

What the FUCK

[sleek ferry]

Sigh, the hate is real

[golden plover]

That's an INSANE card

Eldrazi about to be SO GOOD

[fallow citrus]

eldrazi about to still be mid in modern

[subtle tendon]

Holy fuck

[fallow citrus]

while g-tron eating good

[golden plover]

Damn if modern wasn't pricey as hell and dead in my entire state, I'd wanna build affinity and deaths shadow now

[fallow citrus]

affinity is one of the cheaper modern decks

considering you dont play shocks and frtchedsetc

[golden plover]

This and the ugin's tomb are gonna be a bit pricey tho

[fallow citrus]

still going to be one of the cheapest viable decks

[sleek ferry]

Life gain is looking super cheap in modern

That new 1 drop is nice for it

And then we’ll see if Temur energy becomes a real deck

[twilit canyon]

life gain isnt gonna be cheap

lol

u need 4 copies of one ring

[[$the one ring]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/246/the-one-ring

Prices for The One Ring

The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth

$144.24 • 46.32 TIX

The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth

$195.87 • 45.42 TIX

The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth

$113.14

The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth

$66.42 • €72.73 • 45.80 TIX

Tales of Middle-earth Promos

$117.31

The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth

$95.78 • €79.31 • 43.33 TIX

The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth

$49.95 • €68.71 • 42.80 TIX

[twilit canyon]

200

[[$solitude]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/32/solitude

Prices for Solitude

Magic Online Promos

4.52 TIX

Modern Horizons 2

$20.73 • €29.72 • 6.01 TIX

Modern Horizons 2

$26.96 • €38.45

Modern Horizons 2 Promos

$44.53 • €58.73

[twilit canyon]

280

[[$emeria the sky ruins]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/c14/293/emeria-the-sky-ruin

Prices for Emeria, the Sky Ruin

The List

$15.38

Secret Lair Drop

$24.15

Commander 2014

$12.96 • €9.10 • 0.08 TIX

Zendikar

$12.72 • €8.19 • 0.02 TIX

[twilit canyon]

oh this isnt as bad as before

[[$ranger-captain of eos]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/21/ranger-captain-of-eos

Prices for Ranger-Captain of Eos

Magic Online Promos

2.80 TIX

The List

$20.43

Modern Horizons 1 Timeshifts

$49.00 • €36.41

Modern Horizons

$23.55 • €16.89 • 1.01 TIX

[twilit canyon]

360 + 3 emerias

thats 396

you still need fetches and triomes/shocks/surveils

• sb

your looking at about 1k

thats not very cheap

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6399214#paper

700 was the cheapest version of the deck and its not the properly builty one

with leyline bindings

[sleek ferry]

Tough luck if you don’t have your playset of TOR’s when it was literally a guaranteed promo

[subtle tendon]

mh3 is taking my wallet's butt

sigh

@sleek ferry also I heavily disagree with a take yyuou made earlier about mh2 being better than mh3, I think mh3 is way better than the card quality in mh2

I just read that shifting woodland card and it seems so unbgodly fucked

[twilit canyon]

i also think mh3 is most likely going to be a better set than mh2

[sleek ferry]

I mean MH2 had;

Elementals
DRC
Ragavan
Urza’s Saga
Esper Sentinel
Murktide
Dauthi
Liquimetal Torque
Unholy Heat

Among other stuff that popped up in the meta here and there

[twilit canyon]

yea but its been out longer and we have the full set of mh2

we dont have the full set for mh3 and we already have about half of those card

wait

the fuck

[[liquimetal torque]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/228/liquimetal-torque

Liquimetal Torque <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
: Add .
: Target nonland permanent becomes an artifact in addition to its other types until end of turn.
"Weaponized jewelry has a long and respected history." —Ervos Trax

[twilit canyon]

????????

thought u could sneak this one in

[sleek ferry]

Well that’s also the thing, we have years to reflect on mh2, while we have many unknowns with mh3. I do like that mh3 seems to be giving a lot of lesser decks support

Also liquimetal torque is broken

[twilit canyon]

????

@subtle tendon hes trolling dont listen to him

[glad peak]

It uhhh

Can blank a land if you have Karn

And can destroy a land if you plus with Karn

[twilit canyon]

nonland

[glad peak]

Oof

It can still blank 1 I guess

[broken fjord]

Decent card

[zinc shard]

Nontoken

Phew, we were close to a disaster

[atomic harness]

@twilit canyon did you see ugins binding holy piss

is that real

[twilit canyon]

i did yea

no reason to assume its not given the state of the card shown

[zinc shard]

This... seems insane? There's a bunch of creatures 3 CMC or less that make an energy when they enter

[fallow citrus]

yeah this for example

[zinc shard]

oh it got leaked awhile ago

[atomic harness]

YOO frogmyr

[lusty trench]

We got the teaser art card

[golden plover]

I'm surprised she's an uncommon

[fallow citrus]

Gleaming Fleshwarper

Creature - Eldrazi Drone

{2}{C}

Whenever you cast a colorless spell, create a 0/1 colorless Eldrazi Spawn creature token with "Sacrifice this creature: Add {C}."

Whenever a colorless creature other than this enters the battlefield under your control, ~this~ deals 1 damage to each opponent.

2/2

now this is something good for tron

actual real early threat you can stick

well maybe threat is too strong of a word

[stark skiff]

great mana ramp for eldrazi

[fallow citrus]

Wastescape Battlemage - {1}{C}

Creature - Eldrazi Wizard

Kicker - {G}, Kicker - {1}{U}

When you cast this spell, if it was kicked with its {G} kicker, exile target artifact or enchantment an opponent controls.

When you cast this spell, if it was kicked with its {1}{U} kicker, return target creature an opponent controls to its owner’s hand.

2/2

[sleek ferry]

Isn’t this just a better uh [[reckless stormseeker]] ?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/157/reckless-stormseeker-storm-charged-slasher

Reckless Stormseeker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Human Werewolf
At the beginning of combat on your turn, target creature you control gets +1/+0 and gains haste until end of turn.
Daybound (If a player casts no spells during their own turn, it becomes night next turn.)
2/3

Storm-Charged Slasher
Creature — Werewolf
At the beginning of combat on your turn, target creature you control gets +2/+0 and gains trample and haste until end of turn.
Nightbound (If a player casts at least two spells during their own turn, it becomes day next turn.)
3/4

[fallow citrus]

yeah p much

[golden plover]

@copper pecan this one looks super duel masters

[copper pecan]

yeah it really does

[golden plover]

Wastescape Battlemage even feels more like a Japanese tcg name

[copper pecan]

bruh this at common is crazy

[glad peak]

Welp guess we found the best draft common

Unless drafting mh3 turns out to be very very fast

[copper pecan]

if this was printed during the actual theros block it probably would have been rare or mythic

[golden plover]

That's a fucked common

Especially considering you can pump whatever with it

Honestly, this is bordering on pauper ban territory?

Like I'm not sure what in pauper wants it rn (I'm salivating about throwing 4 in infect)

But it's banworthy

[glad peak]

I’m not sure about ban territory but it is very very good there

[golden plover]

The initiative deck likes the idea of it as an outlet for their leftover treasures

This also acts as a buff and a protection spell

[glad peak]

True but that’s more of an issue with initiative, another finisher won’t really change too much

Actually it guarantees you get initiative back too huh

[golden plover]

Like you throw it on a [[Thorn of Black Rose]] to make a 7/10 and when she dies you still keep the body

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/190/thorn-of-the-black-rose

Thorn of the Black Rose <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Assassin
Deathtouch
When Thorn of the Black Rose enters the battlefield, you become the monarch.
If bribery and intimidation fail, Marchesa turns to her favorite form of persuasion.
1/3

[rigid scarab]

Brb gonna find a deck that flickers this card a non infinite amount of times so we constantly have to run a randomizer for graveyard

[golden plover]

There's no shot something doesn't abuse this in pauper to get it banned

[glad peak]

Then play it with something that gives shallow grave demonstrate

[rigid scarab]

And then after Im done flickering

Cast an unrelated combo win I had the entire time

[glad peak]

[[bone dancer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/wth/62/bone-dancer

Bone Dancer <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Zombie
Whenever Bone Dancer attacks and isn't blocked, you may put the top creature card of defending player's graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. If you do, Bone Dancer assigns no combat damage this turn.
2/2

[glad peak]

What card is the top card of the graveyard?

[lusty trench]

Graveyard players nightmare, forcing them to remember what order their graveyard is in

[golden plover]

https://fxtwitter.com/Aspiringspike/status/1794032831544614944

[trail anvil]

that's a fuckin nice reprint

shit this is new to modern too

[twilit canyon]

ye

they tested it in historic and found its fibe

*fine

[fallow citrus]

would say potentially an include in yawg but opening it as a colourless source sounds mid

[twilit canyon]

its going to be for yawg

maybe krrik combo

well prpbably krrik combo too

[copper pecan]

i use it in historic yawg

[sleek ferry]

https://youtu.be/EKRYHFAFlcE?si=mDXej6tjxoz5IvQo

[glad peak]

Huh

[golden plover]

Weird ass card

[glad peak]

The only thing that matters is

Bird wizard

[golden plover]

Wait does this make [[Kykar]] an Amonkhet Aven?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/343/kykar-winds-fury

Kykar, Wind's Fury <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Bird Wizard
Flying
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
Sacrifice a Spirit: Add .
"The raging gale fans the flames of righteous wrath."
3/3

[twilit canyon]

was kozilek"# command shared

[trail anvil]

goes in the 99 of ivy?

[twilit canyon]

*kozilek's

[trail anvil]

I don't think so

[golden plover]

Since this means Amonkhet avens can be any bird type, and not just eagles

[twilit canyon]

1 target player makes x 0/1 eldrazi spawn tokens

2 scry x draw 1

exile target creature with mv x

exile x target cards from a graveyard

*any graveyard

[trail anvil]

is it instant or sorcery?

[hidden ermine]

Instant iirc

[twilit canyon]

instant yep

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/w1kkufgp6e2d1.png?auto=webp&s=77d44abe012710beffb9f50e23fdd0ae76f39650

Huh

[rigid scarab]

Sorcery would have been unplayable

[twilit canyon]

casts off eldrazi emple

[rigid scarab]

At instant it gets to enjoy being very fringe

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/dvihxa7sfe2d1.png?auto=webp&s=14368bb8cf4d7d4bc1fa0aa4cd25eff244e20833

New burn card?

It's sometimes a 1 mana 4 damage

[rigid scarab]

How many multicolored permanents are in modern even

[rigid scarab]

Domain Zoo?

[twilit canyon]

and yawg

[trail anvil]

surely there are enough to put it in the sideboard

bolt on crack at that point

[golden plover]

All of them

[[Leyline of the Guildpact]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/217/leyline-of-the-guildpact

Leyline of the Guildpact <:managw:292901508977000448><:managu:292901509035851788><:manabg:292901508863754241><:manarg:292901508738056193>

Enchantment
If Leyline of the Guildpact is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
Each nonland permanent you control is all colors.
Lands you control are every basic land type in addition to their other types.

[rigid scarab]

Well not every deck plays leyline

[twilit canyon]

played in 2 decks

[golden plover]

Yeah, but you side this for those, right?

[twilit canyon]

outside of domain zoo, only yawg plays it

err

multi colored permanents that is

[rigid scarab]

Well now the thing is

[twilit canyon]

no

[rigid scarab]

Is a slightly better bolt worth a side slot

[twilit canyon]

you concede on the spot

against domain zoo

[golden plover]

You probably don't main it, but it's better bolt against decks that run Leyline I guess

[twilit canyon]

you cannot beat a t2 scion with leyline in play

a 1 mana deal 4 doesnt change anything

scion will undo each of these with one attack

[rigid scarab]

What does it even hit against domain

[twilit canyon]

nothing

cus everything has hexproof

[rigid scarab]

I dont think bolts like

[twilit canyon]

it goes face

[rigid scarab]

Do anything

Against it

[trail anvil]

oof

[rigid scarab]

And there are like

[golden plover]

Damn, that's unfortunate

[rigid scarab]

Negative 5 burn decks in modern

[twilit canyon]

theres one

[rigid scarab]

Negative 4

[twilit canyon]

and its worst match up is domain zoo

[golden plover]

Because this feels like the kind of "fair powercreep" card expected from a set like this

[twilit canyon]

nah

its just powercreep overall to stuff like [[flame javelin))

[lusty trench]

fanatic of Rhonas
1 power
My sister in Christ he will eat you

[twilit canyon]

[[flame javelin]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/jvc/53/flame-javelin

Flame Javelin <:mana2r:292901508310368259><:mana2r:292901508310368259><:mana2r:292901508310368259>

Instant
( can be paid with any two mana or with . This card's mana value is 6.)
Flame Javelin deals 4 damage to any target.
Gyara Spearhurler would have been renowned for her deadly accuracy, if it weren't for her deadly accuracy.

[twilit canyon]

old burn staplw

among other 3 mana burn spells

[golden plover]

I mean in an ideal MH set where the goal isn't to rotate the format and sell mega broken cards, having cards like this is what you'd want

"Better bolt, but conditionally"

[rigid scarab]

Hey there are cases where Ragavan is worse than Savannah Lions

Lions can't be hydroblasted

[twilit canyon]

its not bolt tho its better compared to the 3 mana burn spells with conditions like skewer

[rigid scarab]

Well that's the point

[twilit canyon]

or rift bolt

[rigid scarab]

In some conditions it's better than bolt

[glad peak]

At first I was about to do the meme about every burn player making the same question about every new card

[rigid scarab]

In most cases it isn't

[glad peak]

But it’s actually decent

[twilit canyon]

yea

all said and done this is likely the 1st card that feels for burn

[rigid scarab]

If I was a teacher giving this card a grade

It would be a B-

And I'd give it the note 'good effort! :)'

[trail anvil]

now what about timeless where domain doesn't have draco and it's not nearly as good

[glad peak]

It’s pretty interesting, I like it

Good balance this time around, I want more cards like this

[golden plover]

This feels.... Bad

[twilit canyon]

burn has been missing a lot

[glad peak]

(In standard to counteract mechanics)

[twilit canyon]

timeless lacks chain lightning, rift bolt, fireblast and boros charm

[rigid scarab]

"Nice! This will be a nice stax piece to slow down my opponent stormi- aaaaand it's gone"

[glad peak]

Huh it’s not a May

[golden plover]

Oh my God I didn't even realize it wasn't optional until you said that

[twilit canyon]

why are u playing this against stax

[golden plover]

Yeah what the fuck

[glad peak]

But I think it’ll be good to blank 1 turn to try to win in a combo deck

[golden plover]

Nah they were saying you play it in stax

[twilit canyon]

its there to hurt mirdrange and tempo

i meant combo

but still

point still stands

[golden plover]

If it was optional, maybe

But like adding a tax to 3 cards is... Ehh

[twilit canyon]

yeah dont play this into combo

[glad peak]

An anti midrange combo enabler, pretty weird but gonna have to play around with it

[twilit canyon]

stacks with thalia too

[golden plover]

That's the one upside

[lusty trench]

yeeeeeeeees birrrrrb

[golden plover]

But also Thalia doesn't only tax 3 cards

[lusty trench]

Bird has ward - your opponent simics

[trail anvil]

you think this is gonna be prevalent in edh? lol

[glad peak]

Shuko + this card + token is draw 4

[golden plover]

I think bad decks will run it lmao

[trail anvil]

the tax to slow your opponents down then ramp and draw

[golden plover]

But it's even worse in edh

Since unless someone is storming off, it taxes each opponent once

[trail anvil]

it's not good to hit lategame but there are a lot of ramp pieces that aren't

[rigid scarab]

It'll be a card people bring up when discussing budget ramp

[trail anvil]

taxing once is all you need sometimes tbh, you're still ramping

[golden plover]

That and a card people will bring up when complaining about bullshit cards

[lusty trench]

We talked about this?

[golden plover]

But it's not that good

[glad peak]

I think it’s going to be a bad high noon where it’s a stun effect that can be removed by yourself easily

[trail anvil]

ooh

[golden plover]

This tho? This is very good

[rigid scarab]

Definitely no one will complain about this card outside of people who have never been to an LGS

[lusty trench]

It's worse deadly dispute but it has flashback

[twilit canyon]

its worse than deadly dispute

[golden plover]

But consider that [[High Noon]] needs you to be playing red/white

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/15/high-noon

High Noon <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn.
, Sacrifice High Noon: It deals 5 damage to any target.
They both knew only one of them would walk away.

[twilit canyon]

for 5 million mana

[golden plover]

Not a big deal, but in edh, it's relevant

[glad peak]

Not that big of a deal when colors are given out all over the place nowadays

[rigid scarab]

This could be very arguably be a standard playable

[golden plover]

I think it'll probably see pauper play

Lots of decks running deadly dispute

[glad peak]

Oh high noon deals damage to any target, I misread that

[golden plover]

And this lets you flashback dispute late-game

[lusty trench]

I feel like you just run village rites effects instead

5 mana flashback for this is a lot

[glad peak]

The boros bully deck sometimes runs black for these effects and this one can sac an egg, it works

[rigid scarab]

This looks

[lusty trench]

Podless pod is real

[rigid scarab]

Pretty slow?

Obviously commander playable whatever but

[lusty trench]

(I'm not saying it's a real deck, it's just a birthing effect without pod in the name)

[rigid scarab]

What deck right now like

Would run it

[trail anvil]

I don't like that it can whiff too

[golden plover]

Oh yeah, it can whiff

[rigid scarab]

You can check before deciding to sac

Which is nice

[golden plover]

It's like cute and will see fringe edh play

[lusty trench]

Funky it's a arborial grazer into a nullhide ferrox

[golden plover]

No clue if it's playable in modern tho

[sleek ferry]

pretty hard to whiff on top 7 though, especially since you would be building around this prob

[trail anvil]

oh that's nice at least

[golden plover]

I'd imagine not

[glad peak]

2 mana and triggers in end step, that’s a good set up at least

[sleek ferry]

card is probably mid, and a casual edh allstar

[golden plover]

Another "I lost to this so I'm gonna make a reddit post about it" banger

[trail anvil]

so a creature heavy sac heavy deck in edh

[glad peak]

It’s an interesting card at least

Dunno how good it is

[rigid scarab]

My vote is

Not very

[lusty trench]

Henzie

[golden plover]

Yeah Henzie likes it

[rigid scarab]

Honestly don't even know how good it is in casual edh decks that don't specifically build for it

How many casual edh decks can you name that play a curve of creatures

[trail anvil]

actually that's genuinely perfect

[golden plover]

See that doesn't matter for a card to get complained about

[trail anvil]

cheat on blitz mana then get a bigger one

[glad peak]

Tasigur into agent of treachery l

[rigid scarab]

The only people who will complain about the card are people who live on twitter

[glad peak]

Wait you can get hullbreaker or nezahal with saccing tasigur

Tasigur getting an extra pod effect is actually decent

[sleek ferry]

every edh deck usually builds on curve? the average cmc across all commander decks in edhrec is like > 4

[twilit canyon]

dont think about decks now think about potential new decks

and how it would fit into creating a new decl

*deck

[sleek ferry]

you adding this to your cedh deck misty? prob not right

[twilit canyon]

no

[sleek ferry]

i remembered you played a food chain deck

[glad peak]

Old school tasigur pod is probably where I would put it if I were to play it in cedh

[twilit canyon]

yeah tasigur -> nezahal

true combo

[glad peak]

Tbh that deck probably works better now that we’re in midrange hell

[golden plover]

It's maybe worth trying in Temur food chain

[glad peak]

Bowmasters-> oppo agent

[golden plover]

But I dunno

I'll proxy one up for Thrasios/Jeska at some point

[glad peak]

Tasigur -> hullbreacher to either threaten a win next turn or just win with born upon a wind is good too

Wait you can get koma or hulk with it too

Rune scar demon and toxrill too

Value

[copper pecan]

wait, it's the target of any spell or ability, not just ones your opponents control?

this turns any equipment with equip 0 into a free draw 2 every turn

[sleek ferry]

or ramp + draw

or ramp + ramp

[granite badge]

Idt theres a way to equip 0 easily in simic

[lusty trench]

Someone brought up shuko

[copper pecan]

in commander there's lightning greaves

[lusty trench]

It's colourless

[granite badge]

Ah

Actually this gives all your creatures a seperate instance of the ability right

[lusty trench]

Yeah

[copper pecan]

yep

[granite badge]

Do they all trigger seperately

[lusty trench]

Yes

[copper pecan]

yes

[sleek ferry]

wonder if it could be cedh playable

[copper pecan]

it's twice per turn per creature

[granite badge]

So theoritically if you go wide

You can throttle through your whole deck

[lusty trench]

You'd have to go wider than I'd like but it could work?

[granite badge]

I might build this tbh

That seems very silly

Bonus points cause bird wizard

Even protection spells should trigger it

Which you'd want to play anyway

And you can dig for

One of the few times a turn restriction on an eff feels justified otherwise this goes infinite extremely easily

[sleek ferry]

that's my concern tbh

[copper pecan]

wow fuck domain

great sideboard card for burn decks

[trail anvil]

we talked about this one above, misty said scion basically blanks burn (and this)

[trail anvil]

oh fuck I missed this lmao

this card gets problematic quick with a board

[twilit canyon]

scion of draco currently fucks burn completely. u need a green splash for pyp

but at that point u may as well just play prowess

[trail anvil]

so this bird goes in ink-treader then?

[twilit canyon]

in what

[sleek ferry]

[[ink-treader]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/gpt/117/ink-treader-nephilim

Ink-Treader Nephilim <:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Nephilim
Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell, if that spell targets only Ink-Treader Nephilim, copy the spell for each other creature that spell could target. Each copy targets a different one of those creatures.
When it awoke, the mirrors of the world reflected only darkness.
3/3

[sleek ferry]

wtf is this

[twilit canyon]

ik the name

i just have no idea what deck is non black

[lusty trench]

You can also put it in ivy

[twilit canyon]

???

what does ivy have to do with ghostfire slice and pick your poison

[lusty trench]

I was talking about this cause I assume komi was talking about the legendary bird

[glad peak]

With the legendary bird, just get 1 more creature and shuko and you can growth spiral 4 times a turn

No idea how you can fit those with a control deck but

[trail anvil]

I was, I was talking about commander not modern

[lusty trench]

Ah I see

[golden plover]

This is like the least eldrazi eldrazi

[trail anvil]

this is just an old magic art

[subtle tendon]

Mom says we have eldrazi at home:

[lusty trench]

Urzas incubator at rare

[sleek ferry]

I’ll say this much, I feel like the reprints/new to modern cards in this set are better than mh2

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945646524710942/1243687832330174495/Tx4xrKP.png?ex=6652620d&is=6651108d&hm=66c450d295934a2f616a2633426e14c7795b829d22eb66f1ce9b2d3c5099aa6f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1426&height=662

solar transformer is probably going to be a brawl staple going forward

also i think it might be a retrain of [[sphere of suns]], maybe?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/231/sphere-of-the-suns

Sphere of the Suns <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
Sphere of the Suns enters the battlefield tapped and with three charge counters on it.
, Remove a charge counter from Sphere of the Suns: Add one mana of any color.

[pulsar talon]

Can you play modern in MTGA?

The stuff i've been seeing from MH3 seems very cool

[lusty trench]

There’s historic

But no you can’t play modern

[pulsar talon]

That sucks

[twilit canyon]

theres timeless which is closer to legacy

[lusty trench]

It’s cause the backlog of modern sets would be a nightmare to implement

[twilit canyon]

historic and timeless are the closest overall probs say that its timeless

[copper pecan]

mh3 is being added to arena

[trail anvil]

that's probably their eventual goal tho

pioneer was confirmed, albeit a while from now

[copper pecan]

they said they're probably not going to do modern

[trail anvil]

they did?

I thought they just said they had no plans for it since it would take a while

[copper pecan]

i remember asking on the official server a while back and they said they probably weren't gonna do it, and if they did it would be years and years down the line

[trail anvil]

I feel like arena is too much of a cash cow to not do it, and it's not like they're gonna stop printing standard stuff any time soon

[lusty trench]

What they could do is have a team work on implementing the old sets one by one to go with whenever a new set drops

Add them to historic or a new format, have them available to draft etc

[twilit canyon]

itll most likely be done eventually

[sleek ferry]

I thought they initially said no modern, then they switched to "eventually"

the one thing arena will never get is Commander

[pulsar talon]

I read the flavor text as "The kingdom is in Peru"

Kinda wish it was that instead now

[twilit canyon]

oh finally

this piece of shit gets reprinted

huge for modern dnt

[trail anvil]

ngl paper commander is so insanely strong that I don't think they have to

[lusty trench]

That's the last mythic of the set iirc

[golden plover]

Real mixed bag in the mythic slot

But there's some really good ones

[zinc shard]

OH THEY DID THE THING WHERE THEY NAME A CARD AFTER A SET

[lusty trench]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

"in the end it was truly a magic the gathering aether revolt"

[copper pecan]

you sayin' we're some kind of modern horizons 3?

[modern minnow]

i really hope they cover their bases on naming cards after sets

i wanna see what they design for core set 2020

[sleek ferry]

Sigh they just don’t want me to wash you and the other mods in server commander games

[trail anvil]

tbh if we really wanted we could do server commander nights on cockatrice

[trail anvil]

that card really does have both aether and revolt

[glad peak]

Core set 2020’s flavor text: a core tenant has been set, hindsight is 2020

[copper pecan]

OUTJERKED AGAIN

[zinc shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1d036nq/huge_mh3_leaks_via_whatnot_pt_1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

20 card leak

[twilit canyon]

gift of the viper is nuts

thats so much ability in one card

[lusty trench]

This card is beautiful

[urban crane]

Do people think the new eldrazi deck wil be worth it?

For a normal prize

[lusty trench]

Haven’t gotten the list yet

29th we get it

[urban crane]

Do people think it’ll be good considering current prices for pre order alone

[lusty trench]

People like eldrazi so it gets more expensive

[urban crane]

I just said fuck it and preordered it

[waxen timber]

Something I love about modern horizions 3 is that we are getting a lot more non-humans

I feel like for the past few years besides the sets like MOM where they purposely have a ton of stuff like Pyherxians, they default to humans a lot more

[golden plover]

Gift of the Viper is a CRAZY card for 1 mana????

[fallow citrus]

surely this is crazy with stuff like reckless impulse

[copper pecan]

something something good in prosper

[sleek ferry]

Prosper is always the answer

[granite badge]

Lizard wizard goes INSANELY hard as a substype

Whats prosper

[fallow citrus]

where's our king gizzard to go with our wizard lizard

[[prosper, tomebound]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/afc/2/prosper-tome-bound

Prosper, Tome-Bound <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Tiefling Warlock
Deathtouch
Mystic Arcanum — At the beginning of your end step, exile the top card of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play that card.
Pact Boon — Whenever you play a card from exile, create a Treasure token.
1/4

[granite badge]

Ah

Makes sense

[fallow citrus]

ok these haven't been shown here yet so I'll dump em

[granite badge]

Gift of the Viper is INSANE wtf

2 relavent keywords, untaps, and a +1//1

[fallow citrus]

I just don't see what modern deck would play it rn unfortunately

maybe temur prowess

[urban crane]

Also funny thought what if they haven’t put in a sol ring in the Eldrazi deck cause it would be funny and kinda even way stronger than normal

[copper pecan]

oh no the eldrazi got kalonian tusker

[fallow citrus]

ok I'm going to dump another load of cards I haven't seen posted here

apart from colossal dreadmask

oh wait nvm it's been linked further up

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1d04eir/huge_mh3_leaks_via_whatnot_pt5/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1d03xx2/huge_mh3_leaks_via_whatnot_pt4/
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1d03x7m/huge_mh3_leaks_via_whatnot_pt3/

the other ones I posted up there were part 2 of those leaks

[modern minnow]

invert polarity just reminds me of the story about siding odds and ends during flash

[urban crane]

What

[copper pecan]

warped tusker is [[kalonian tusker]] but eldrazi

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m14/182/kalonian-tusker

Kalonian Tusker <:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Beast
"And all this time I thought we were tracking it." —Juruk, Kalonian tracker
3/3

[copper pecan]

wait this isn't the card i was thinking of

[[krosan tusker]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/302/krosan-tusker

Krosan Tusker <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Boar Beast
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
When you cycle Krosan Tusker, you may search your library for a basic land card, reveal that card, put it into your hand, then shuffle. (Do this before you draw.)
6/5

[copper pecan]

this guy

[urban crane]

Really curious about the mana base for the Eldrazi deck

[twilit canyon]

its not very complicated all things considered

[[cavern of souls]] covers most of your needs and it seems its blue they want you to play

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/269/cavern-of-souls

Cavern of Souls

Land
As Cavern of Souls enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
: Add .
: Add one mana of any color. Spend this mana only to cast a creature spell of the chosen type, and that spell can't be countered.

[twilit canyon]

so playing some yavimaya coast maybe but otherwise tron lands

[trail anvil]

come to think of it a lot of dual color lands make colorless too huh

they aren't fetchable usually though yeah?

[fallow citrus]

nope

stuff like [[yavimaya coast]] don't have basic typings

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/342/yavimaya-coast

Yavimaya Coast

Land
: Add .
: Add or . Yavimaya Coast deals 1 damage to you.
As magnigoth trees expanded across the sea into Almaaz and New Argive, it became clear Yavimaya's borders were never confined by its coastline.

[zinc shard]

[[Gravedigger]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m20/103/gravedigger

Gravedigger <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Zombie
When Gravedigger enters the battlefield, you may return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
In Amonkhet's ever-shifting sands, nothing stays buried for long.
2/2

[zinc shard]

I see what they did there

[trail anvil]

creature tokens you control have evolve
jesus

[waxen timber]

Amazing commander card

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/i3yhsiju2i2d1.jpg?width=595&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c63ca902b8de6acfe37d29e3f8a098f81242a7c6

This art fucking sucks

https://preview.redd.it/rpalcmju2i2d1.jpg?width=562&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b42f733a84aea8fac0d58abb18618a245f6c064

This art fucking rules

[modern minnow]

its the fucking awooga meme

[trail anvil]

I can't help but feel like you're biased here

[modern minnow]

the art is really nice on the horrific assault

[trail anvil]

but ur right that's some terrible art

[golden plover]

It really is. I kinda hate it

[modern minnow]

almost gives me whatever the hole phobia thing is vibes

[golden plover]

I don't like things with eyes and it's this weird uncanny valley of not being cartoony enough

[modern minnow]

idk if its just bc of the screenshot quality but i also feel its kinda hard to parse

[golden plover]

Def

Also the barbarian guy has a bunch of balloons?

Shitty art

[lusty trench]

Feels very discworld core

"be on the look out for falling barbarians, a rumour has spread among tribes that you can catch rare giant buzzards by floating up using balloons, unfortunately the barbarians failed to realise they'd have no way back down"

[granite badge]

(They see this creature enter) is interesting

On the evolve eldrazi

[trail anvil]

I like how even if you don't pay the mana it's an okay aura

[copper pecan]

played a heist mirror match and did the craziest play i've ever done

through sheer luck i managed to heist my opponent's grave expectations, then use that to heist another of their grave expectations, then used that to heist a third one, then heisted a grenzo

[sleek ferry]

[[grave expectations]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/yotj/9/grave-expectations

Grave Expectations <:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Choose one —
• Heist target opponent's library.
• Exile up to three target cards from your opponents' graveyards. You gain 3 life.

[copper pecan]

they already used the 4th grave expectations so i stole all of the ones they had left

[glad peak]

2 mana to get you a better thought scour each turn, interesting

[trail anvil]

oh 1 mana

that's a terrible way to translate that text lol

worth noting you don't have to pay the cost if you don't want any of the cards, especially nice later on if you're low on life

[sleek ferry]

This is just way better phyrexian arena no?

[lusty trench]

Not a high bar to clear but I believe so

Issue is having to pay 1 mana for the card which feels somewhat gross

[waxen timber]

Also 3 life instead of 1 kinda matters

[lusty trench]

Yeah but the ability to choose if you do take it is also good

Like this can just fill grave and then if you hit a reanimation spell you can add that

[golden plover]

It's probably pretty good, but reading 3 life and 1 mana makes it harder to say it's outright better

Considering there's times where it'll kill you a lot faster

[lusty trench]

Kinda feels like that one Simpsons bit with the cursed krusty doll

[golden plover]

I know it's optional, but if you dig off it a lot, it's hurting way more

[lusty trench]

Don't have to pay to dig, just have to pay to retrieve

[golden plover]

Yeah, still will lead to scenarios where it kills you faster if you're taking more cards

Still overall probably better than phyrexian arena tho

[lusty trench]

At the very least I'm putting it in massacre girl

[golden plover]

It's better in edh where you're getting more turns out of it and the life loss matters a lot less tbh

The joke is too easy so I will not make it

[lusty trench]

Dw wotc already made it

[golden plover]

LMAO

Not even trying to call it the modern set in ads

Like the "commander horizons" one on the stream was a slip-up because he was reading chat

[lusty trench]

To me this is harmless but funny

[sleek ferry]

Advertising for commander players is the smart thing to do

Considering modern is for comp players mostly

Nobody buys into modern casually

[golden plover]

Oh it's totally harmless

But yeah, it's funny they're just going "buy this set for commander"

[golden plover]

See but people USED to

Before they pushed commander super hard, LGSes used to have modern nights and people would bring casual brews and off-meta stuff

[trail anvil]

tbh I think this set has been designed pretty well overall

there's definitely a good chunk of cards they're pushing into modern, especially a lot of the reprints

[sleek ferry]

Modern has always had the Yugioh problem, playing casually just feels bad

[trail anvil]

why do you say playing yugioh casually feels bad

[golden plover]

This one does definitely feel like it's designed for modern and rn doesn't look as insane as MH2 was

But the whole "commander card into modern" thing is still there

[sleek ferry]

Because post pote the gap between decks grew exponentially, making casual decks just unable to keep up with newer shinier decks

[trail anvil]

honestly that's just a thing with every set at this point

[golden plover]

Yeah true

[granite badge]

See with yugioh its because of a lot of baked in design sphagehti that basically requires them to make an entire new game from the ground up(rush duel) to even attempt to fix

With mtg its never really felt awful to play more casually and not grind events out, do a draft here or there, brew stupid memey theme decks like boros knights, etc

But it does feel like the powercreep as of the last few years is on that tipping point

[twilit canyon]

its only bc we forget how absurd some old cards really are

powercreep is definitely real but its not a bad part since a lot of it is to help make even the draft chaff pretty playable

it feels like shit to open a vanilla so they stopped printing vanillas

giving function to all cards means some will naturally come up over older cards

and thats fine imo

but also we will be hard pressed to ever print stuff like brainstorm or ponder again

no force of will, no fireblast, no lightning bolt

no dark rituals

no sol ring no chrome mox

no moxen or black lotus either

a bit more leveled playing field for normally weak cards is fine

[copper pecan]

creatures are getting stronger but for all the other card types the best stuff was printed decades ago

[golden plover]

Creatures are getting way stronger and WAY more complex

[dense berry]

i love my mtg creatures having inflated statlines on top of 3-4 beneficial effects with no downsides

[zinc shard]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f1xQbY9iZEVNbwqz0jnolDY81bMWwcWz/view?pli=1

Here's all of MH3

[fallow citrus]

oh yeah Linebreaker is going to be hella good

cause I forgot [[eldrazi mimic]] existed

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ogw/2/eldrazi-mimic

Eldrazi Mimic <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Creature — Eldrazi
Whenever another colorless creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may change Eldrazi Mimic's base power and toughness to that creature's power and toughness until end of turn.
It is consistently inconsistent.
2/1

[fallow citrus]

t1 mimic t2 linebreaker swing for 8

[twilit canyon]

i wish it copied abilities

t1 mimic t2 nulldrifter swing with annihilator 1

[fallow citrus]

imagine lmfao

it's cool that we have multiple directions we can take kind of good eldrazi decks in modern now

[subtle tendon]

@sleek ferry is the mastery pass on mtga worth it?

[twilit canyon]

yes

just baseline it is worth

gives good returns on investment also im p sure the pass just levels even if f2p and whenever u buy the pass it gives u the full rewards too

but i wouldnt bother unless u wanna play arena a lot

[sleek ferry]

Yeah the mastery pass is worth. I would say to maximize it, you need to play for 10ish wins a day or so

Just to min max your daily quests

I think the actual number is 8 for dailies, but I just do 10

[subtle tendon]

ok, I plan to play about 10+ games a day since I'll have a lot of free time

[sleek ferry]

I would spam bo1’s just to get used to the meta, once you’re comfortable you can hop in bo3

[subtle tendon]

ive just been doing the bo1 standard ranked ladder

[twilit canyon]

10+ a day is crazy

[subtle tendon]

trying to farm for more mythic wild cards

[twilit canyon]

i max it with half of that easily

also this latest bp will run for long

since mh3 wont have one

[sleek ferry]

Even I’m just getting back into ranked and I’m getting gamed on by some stupid rakdos joins up jank

[subtle tendon]

what ladder do all the sweats play on

bo3 or bo1

im trying to hit mythic in one of them

[fallow citrus]

bo3 surely

[sleek ferry]

Bo3 from diamond+

Bo1 gets sweaty around diamond 2

Bo1 has a significant jump from plat to diamond, and then again at diamond 2ish

[twilit canyon]

bo3 yup

also all the ladders share a rank

you'll find standard, historic, and timeless bo3 will have the most frequent competitive players at diamond or above

bo1 is still competitive though

less so in explorer and timeless though

[fallow citrus]

what's the difference between historic and timeless again

[twilit canyon]

historic is like modern, timeless is like vintage

actually more to say legacy and vintage

historic is all cards on the platform + a big banlist

timeless is all cards on the platform + a restricted list and theoretical banlist

[sleek ferry]

Timeless also has the OG version of all cards right? Not the nerfed versions for historic?

[twilit canyon]

ie u will most definitely be casting force of wills and lotus petals and going for turn 1 or turn 2 combo wins in timeless

but in historic, u will be playing around modern's tempo

[twilit canyon]

or buffed yep

but digital-only cards like crucias will still have their changes

[subtle tendon]

sounds expensive

[twilit canyon]

yeah

but generally its going to be better to play eternal formats over rotating formats

ie: u spend what

[fallow citrus]

do timeless and historic both use digital only cards?

[twilit canyon]

the 60-70 rares and 20 mythics on a timeless deck

but then that deck is there forever

[twilit canyon]

yup

its all cards

[fallow citrus]

ah okay

[twilit canyon]

the only notable one is

[fallow citrus]

going to be some learning for me to do there

[twilit canyon]

jarsyl

thats it p much

[fallow citrus]

oh lmao

[twilit canyon]

oh and kami of bamboo groves

[[kami of bamboo groves]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/yneo/24/kami-of-bamboo-groves

Kami of Bamboo Groves <:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment Creature — Spirit
When Kami of Bamboo Groves enters the battlefield, you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.
Channel — , Discard Kami of Bamboo Groves: Conjure two cards named Forest into your hand.
1/1

[twilit canyon]

[[jarsyl dark age scion]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ybro/20/jarsyl-dark-age-scion

Jarsyl, Dark Age Scion <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Starting intensity 1
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may cast a spell with mana value equal to Jarsyl, Dark Age Scion's intensity from your graveyard without paying its mana cost. If you do, Jarsyl intensifies by 1.
3/3

[fallow citrus]

that seems pretty good damn

[twilit canyon]

though i know some ppl are testing the heist cards from the newest alchemy set since they are kinda free and abuse the high power of both decks

[fallow citrus]

and whats good in timeless right now?

[twilit canyon]

a fair bit

domain zoo for instance

omnitell combo

sorin ripper

reanimator

prowess

burn

sultai and jund midrange

4c/5c value

rakdos storm

lurrus value piles

deaths shadow

oh lol i mentioned kami and forgot why

but natural order combo decks too

and prime titan

[fallow citrus]

[twilit canyon]

some winota piles too but they kinda arent great imo

[fallow citrus]

sounds very diverse

[twilit canyon]

yeah but u need to be prepared to die turn 1

[fallow citrus]

lmfao understandable

guess the vintage parallels are there

[twilit canyon]

you have like a total of 2 cards maybe 3 that can save you those being surgical extraction, mindbreak trap, and commandeer

with mh3 we are getting subtlety solitude and endurance for t0 interaction

but they are limited in scope still

[subtle tendon]

this is my son

[fallow citrus]

hmm

dying t1 sounds not poggers but also it sounds like timeless has more decks I enjoy

[fallow citrus]

only missing 20 rare wildcards to build shadow

[subtle tendon]

oh, you get less rewards as you win more per day

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, that’s why you min max after around 8ish wins

[subtle tendon]

that's annoying

[twilit canyon]

4 is a better cutoff

[trail anvil]

nah you don't even need to play it every day to max it

I played like 75-80% of days last pass and still went 10 levels over. definitely didn't max it every day

[golden plover]

@lusty trench so my LGS has MH3 prices up:
$300 box
$80 commander decks
$200 premium commander decks

Jesus

[lusty trench]

Bruh

[golden plover]

Apparently they're like selling them as cheap as they can too. Since the set has such a high mark up

[granite badge]

$80 precons???

[lusty trench]

Nah that's cap

[copper pecan]

yeah there's no way that's true, there are places selling for way less than that

[golden plover]

Yeah I'm not sure I buy it, but this set is also too expensive lmao

Although I've seen the precons for $60

[stark skiff]

eldrazi for 80 might be chjeap with everyone wanting it

[lusty trench]

That's about RRP

Amazon has them for 55-60

[sleek ferry]

Super cap

Boxes were preselling for as low as 210

[golden plover]

Lmao just got a free copy of Blame Game from my LGS. That's the one with [[Trouble in Pairs]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/15/trouble-in-pairs

Trouble in Pairs <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
If an opponent would begin an extra turn, that player skips that turn instead.
Whenever an opponent attacks you with two or more creatures, draws their second card each turn, or casts their second spell each turn, you draw a card.
Together, they're greater than the sum of their rap sheets.

[lusty trench]

Ay nice

[golden plover]

I now own plagiarism art

[trail anvil]

I've never seen this part of pussy town before!

free trouble in pairs is big though

[golden plover]

True. If nothing else, it's net even. Well net $25

[atomic harness]

Who was in pairs?

[zinc shard]

I'm about to start autoscooping whenever I get paired up with Grenzo

[atomic harness]

[[Grenzo]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “Grenzo”, can you be more specific?

[zinc shard]

The alchemy one

[[Grenzo, Crooked Jailer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/yotj/22/grenzo-crooked-jailer

Grenzo, Crooked Jailer <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Goblin Rogue
When Grenzo enters the battlefield and at the beginning of your upkeep, heist target opponent's library.
Once each turn, you may pay rather than pay the mana cost for a spell you cast that you don't own.
6/4

[twilit canyon]

are u running into ppl abusing the bug

[zinc shard]

Bug? No I just hate the deck

[twilit canyon]

oh lol

[zinc shard]

what sthe bug

[twilit canyon]

convoluted issues with casting emrakul off grenzo

[lusty trench]

Man that’s one boring ass art for non borderless ugins binding

[golden plover]

Wow that's... Very ehh

[sleek ferry]

[[ugin’s binding]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “ugin’s binding”

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/u5qyfqfgm63d1.png?auto=webp&s=a2365bdf46c1f82dafab370c9f7f2edb07e9016f

Officially revealed now

Crazy fucking card for 1 mana

[modern minnow]

are people calling this white ragavan yet

[golden plover]

I haven't seen it be called that yet

[fallow citrus]

dies to bowmasters

[golden plover]

Lots of undervaluing it if anything

[twilit canyon]

it also doesnt enable itself. does nothing on its first turn

[golden plover]

It does enable itself, but not on t1

It's gotta attack

[twilit canyon]

its thoroughly okay

playable level? meh

[sleek ferry]

Not even the best white 1 drop in the set

[golden plover]

What better white 1 drops are there?

[twilit canyon]

the guy that gains life and energy

[sleek ferry]

The life gain 1 that gives energy

[twilit canyon]

1/2, pumps the board afterwards

[sleek ferry]

It’s also a 1/2

God damn it

[twilit canyon]

fits way better into abiding grace

deckd could maybe run the ocelot as a 1 of but why do u ever need to generate a ton of low quality 1/1 tokens and maybe with the blessing an extra clue

[atomic harness]

I cant believe they made white ravagan with 1000 keywords and it's still cheeks

[lusty trench]

It into new ajani is a thing that can maybe do a thing

[atomic harness]

or maybe it's just wordy because of ascend

(what does the city's blessing do idr)

[fallow citrus]

nah ragavan has rush so it's better

[atomic harness]

[lusty trench]

Like turn one ocelot, turn two ajanj

Seems way too cute of a combo though and very draw reliant

[twilit canyon]

and still mid

[atomic harness]

Quick misty what's a good t1 t2 for eldrazi

[twilit canyon]

t1 herald t2 nulldrifter

or t1 map + crack t2 nulldrifter

[atomic harness]

[[nulldrifter]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/13/nulldrifter

Nulldrifter <:mana7:292901508540792835>

Creature — Eldrazi Elemental
When you cast this spell, draw two cards.
Flying
Annihilator 1 (Whenever this creature attacks, defending player sacrifices a permanent.)
Evoke (You may cast this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.)
4/4

[sleek ferry]

You could also technically t1 chalice for 1 right? Who that stops, who knows

[twilit canyon]

not much atm

but its worth having in your sideboard

also t2 4 drop is very real

t4 tks

err

t2

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/psychic-frogs-horizon-hideaway-on-mtg-arena

oh this is neat

its basically a mini battle pass at reduced cost

[lusty trench]

Horizon of progress beeeeeg

[copper pecan]

yo trenchpost is a big deal

we can have 16post in legacy now

[golden plover]

Copy Land sure is a name for the copyland

[twilit canyon]

callback to [[copy artifact]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/me4/44/copy-artifact

Copy Artifact <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
You may have Copy Artifact enter the battlefield as a copy of any artifact on the battlefield, except it's an enchantment in addition to its other types.

[twilit canyon]

and [[copy enchantment]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/39/copy-enchantment

Copy Enchantment <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
You may have Copy Enchantment enter the battlefield as a copy of any enchantment on the battlefield.
Simic mages create redundant backups of their experiments to reduce the consequences of catastrophe.

[golden plover]

Ah right, this cycle

[fallow citrus]

love the desert support

[lusty trench]

Think this is one of the ones that's like just a bonus card? Like yoshimaru or go shintai in kamigawa?

[granite badge]

Ngl energy cards this set seem pretty fun

[granite badge]

"For each player that has lost the game" is INSANE TEXT

[trail anvil]

mood tbh, it's just etali all over again

except even worse cause they have access to black

[golden plover]

Wait this is just an EDH forced staple, yeah?

Literally 0 reason to not run this in every deck ever (ignoring pricetag)?

Huh it also notably says "mana of any type" as opposed to "mana of any color". It's a subtle powercreep, but it's a powercreep

[twilit canyon]

does nothing turn 1 so its not perfect but it should be great

[golden plover]

I mean, yeah. You just don't play it t1

But it's kind of insane in every commander deck ever other than that

It's gonna be in the eldrazi precon, so it's probably gonna be like $60+ unless they reprint it in more precons

Nah they'll probably pull a dockside with it and make it a chase mythic

[twilit canyon]

i mean sure but thats fine

plenty of must-adds to commander already

[golden plover]

It's kind of an issue tho when so many cards have to be played in your colors (or in this case colorless)

Makes decks more and more of the same thing

[twilit canyon]

like it is already

[golden plover]

Oh for sure, but the more of them add up

[broken fjord]

Horizon is nuts. Not the best land ever, but it does so much.

[golden plover]

@lusty trench lmao "premium precons"

Can't even throw in like a shock?

Don't even need to do all three in the colors, just do something other than the temples

Hey at least they put Aetherworks Marvel in it?

Mostly bulk creatures too, but Goldspan is nice ig

And the rest of it

[[Farewell]] is cool too

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/64/farewell

Farewell <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose one or more —
• Exile all artifacts.
• Exile all creatures.
• Exile all enchantments.
• Exile all graveyards.

[lusty trench]

Akromas will is huge

It’s 2024 can we get torrential gearhulk in a precon wotc

[golden plover]

Oh god, is the Eldrazi deck gonna have 10 temples?

[lusty trench]

If I see a temple of false gods in there I swear to gods

I think my biggest disappointment for the eldrazi deck is this dude

Who asked for this

What about the eldrazi strategy says yes flip power and toughness that is what I want

[broken fjord]

Hull clade kinda.

[trail anvil]

helps you kill blood artist

[golden plover]

But look, he's a 4 mana 9/2 sometimes

Isn't that what you wanted?

[trail anvil]

the fact that this needs 2 colorless mana means you can't splash it in decks that would actually want it though, that's unfortunate

[lusty trench]

At best this kills 0/Xs and make your trades better but you have to do it before blockers are declared

So they can just not block

[golden plover]

"Premium manabases" just means no temple of the false gods

[lusty trench]

We both know that shit is in the eldrazi deck

I’m not even gonna pretend

[golden plover]

Actually wait what did the sliver commander deck manabase look like

Oh we're cooked

[lusty trench]

Look at the eldrazi deck mana base if you feel like crying

[golden plover]

Can they not throw the bicycle lands or anything in these? I know we're never gonna get the triomes in a precon

Wait is it leaked?

[lusty trench]

What do you mean you didn’t put in command beacon

Nah the old one

[golden plover]

That one was colorless

This one is 5.5c

[lusty trench]

They managed to fuck up a colourless landbase