Magic the Gathering

[twilit canyon]

like u dont get punished for bringing back say

shelly

or grief

even if the base card does

like

having kaervek in play

pitch exile cast grief

kaervek triggers

cast another one from the gy

that one now triggers kaervek

keep going

until u empty the grave and/or the board is dead

[hidden ermine]

Or you run out of mana

[twilit canyon]

ye

which tbf for a cabal coffers deck in modern, is very hard to do

or u end it on non-interaction

recast shelly is always good

[waxen timber]

With dark ritual, you could do funky stuff with this

[granite badge]

is there any semi decent budget decks for arena

[trail anvil]

I'd say there are a decent amount, do you know which colors you prefer?

and/or playstyles

[trail anvil]

apparently she didn't even paint out the trigger guard entirely, just turned it brown. you can see it between his ring and middle finger

meant to reply to this but discord broke

[granite badge]

I've mostly been playing a "haha hastey small drops go brr" red deck to grind gold atm

Pretty much just cheap creatures with haste + removal

[lusty trench]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/s/Kux3mEBtaZ

OOP

[twilit canyon]

yeah i saw this from the official mtg discord

fay dalton getting fucking cooked

[lusty trench]

Honestly I'm more invested in if we find the axe from trouble in pairs so we have the full image stolen

[trail anvil]

bruh lmao

[trail anvil]

if you want another cheap deck like that have you tried gruul burn?

https://mtgazone.com/user-decks/nb5lsdcsjm5h8jfleym/ the only nonland rare is questing druid

[sleek ferry]

This deck has been extremely good to me

Breeches is really good, as is kitesail larcenist. Surge engine randomly wins games, Malcolm attracts removal everytime he comes down. Syr Ginger is very good vs mill

Only thing I’ve been considering adding is maybe 2 karn’s sylex

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1223277253132161149/image.png?ex=661944b8&is=6606cfb8&hm=a5bd42cab393cae2b718fdf25be09f92af4250288e76b0bd7be78c2fc0c98428&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1235&height=577

[zinc shard]

New toy for Muldrotha

[golden plover]

@lusty trench

Fay traced for all her images it seems

At least these two

[lusty trench]

Ye I saw

It's fucked up how long this has been going on

[golden plover]

I'd wager in a couple days 75% of he work will be sourcec

[sudden lava]

she's now recruiting your creatures (from your opponents side)

[lusty trench]

...DAMN

[golden plover]

That's such a cool effect

[fallow citrus]

we have dreadhorde arcanist at home

[golden plover]

Damn, I thought the flashback 0 card was gonna be Nashi

I'm kinda worried my boy isn't gonna get a card now

[lusty trench]

Your goat has been relegated to aftermath hell

[sleek ferry]

wait hold up Claim Jumper searches any plains card

holy

[golden plover]

I don't even think he'll get a big score card

Why do they hate Nashi

[lusty trench]

He is being blamed for the failures of aftermath

[lusty trench]

Casually ramp 2 for 3 in white no biggie

[sudden lava]

Sucks that you cant throw her into the old deck since she is now tri color

[golden plover]

I mean just throw the old her in this one?

This one is way cooler anyways

[sudden lava]

yeah true

[golden plover]

What really sucks is that she specifies "nonland"

I wanna take their lands

[sudden lava]

well the old one only says creatures (but rewards you for all auras)

and slight political differences, old Eriette just prevented the creatures from attacking you/your planeswalkers. This one is actively throwing punches with creatures rather then slowly burning everyone out.

[glad peak]

She sure be guiling

[sleek ferry]

and surveil twice

[fallow citrus]

it.. doesn't ramp for 2 unless you're hardcore behind?

or unless you're also playing against ramp ig

[lusty trench]

I'm looking at this with edh mind set

If there's a simic player at the table you're ramping 2

[fallow citrus]

oh sure edh

I guess it's alright in that context

[lusty trench]

This is infinitely more boring that her original

It's still cool but damn

[golden plover]

It's neat and probably plays better NGL

[twilit canyon]

@clever sun

[trail anvil]

that's cool as shit, are you kidding?

just build up a ton of triggers, clone her with spark double or something and watch it pile up

[trail anvil]

jasper flint is so fun, you keep on recruiting people as you raid your opponent's deck

[lusty trench]

It's just the effect is getting more and more common and I've yet to find a way to build around this kind of thing without it being boring as sin

[clever sun]

SHE'S SO COOL

[sleek ferry]

where have we seen more upkeeps lately?!?

I'm confused

[barren cairn]

Thought of a mean option

[[Herald of Leshrac]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/csp/62/herald-of-leshrac

Herald of Leshrac <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Avatar
Flying
Cumulative upkeep—Gain control of a land you don't control. (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
Herald of Leshrac gets +1/+1 for each land you control but don't own.
When Herald of Leshrac leaves the battlefield, each player gains control of each land they own that you control.
2/4

[twilit canyon]

mid

[twilit canyon]

wide brimm

[lusty trench]

Ninth doctor is the most recent but it's also an effect I don't like so I'm probably bias

[sleek ferry]

[[the ninth doctor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/148/the-ninth-doctor

The Ninth Doctor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Time Lord Doctor
Haste
Into the TARDIS — Whenever The Ninth Doctor becomes untapped during your untap step, you get an additional upkeep step after this step.
"Fantastic!"
2/4

[lusty trench]

We also just got a sphinx of the second sun reprint in commander mkm, it's just not an effect I like seeing very much because I view it the same way I do etb doublers

[sudden lava]

Grixis Clara9 players already cooked for her.

[lusty trench]

Damn

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[sleek ferry]

Apparently this means Clara + ninth doctor

But I must reiterate

https://tenor.com/view/who-gif-4519872

[granite badge]

Yeah I agree tbh

Its fun but boring how its a damage trigger

[twilit canyon]

i take back what i said about alchemy players

pioneer/explorer players are worse

i got mfers casting waste not against me

while in the meantime i have a vein ripper and a bloodtithe harvester on board

i get secondhand embarrassment seeing that

[twilit canyon]

it was a rhetorical who cus i dont really care

[sudden lava]

Just saying where to look for her build, the payoffs will be similar anyways

[twilit canyon]

very different commanders

9th doctor is on upkeep

[sleek ferry]

Explorer is extremely easy to get mythic in, like painfully easy

[twilit canyon]

i can tell

i farmed 2 7-0 runs this metagame challenge

explorer players are kind of dogshit

[sleek ferry]

People have sadly not picked up explorer, which is a shame because the meta is potentially fun if more good players pick it up

But the quality of gameplay is super mid

[copper pecan]

yo hold up

this is a blue bear

without a downside

for the first time in the history of the game

[golden plover]

I mean, Vampires is a top deck in Explorer rn

That should tell you everything

That deck is dogshit

[sleek ferry]

Whats wrong with that

Grixis vampires was also solid on standard like 2-3 standards ago

[golden plover]

The deck is 1 trick

If it misses it fucking sucks

It's literally just "Sorin into vein ripper or I lose the game"

[zinc shard]

Conditional Sun Titan

actually only triggers on ETB

[twilit canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efN2kAr-3Rk

interesting vid

i dont agree with everything

but i see his points

[golden plover]

I sorta get his point tho. It's definitely weird to see how much crossover this set has

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJ3zfqpXsAAt2cW?format=jpg&name=large

[copper pecan]

good

[sleek ferry]

I think the plane is directionless tbh, and the plane itself does not interest me but in saying that, I also think PK is one of the biggest haters in the community

So his complaining means very little in my eyes

He’s that one person that complains about literally everything, so his words just have much less meaning

[hidden ermine]

Wait why is Lazav on Thunder Junction?

Isnt he still a guild leader

[copper pecan]

i'd assume he's there to spy on what ral is doing there

also new errata

https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/746338153928015872/hi-mark-laughing-jasper-flint-is-a-lizard-rather

all viashino are now lizards

viashino is no longer a type

[zinc shard]

Just got my gems for having played Spellslinger

[trail anvil]

pog how does it feel to be one of the chosen

surely this is the card that brings back monogreen to relevancy

all these modes are actually super nice though

[trail anvil]

Akul, the Unrepentant (provisional translation)

BBRR

rare

Legendary Creature - Scorpion, Dragon, Rogue

Flying, Trample

Sacrifice three other creatures : Put a creature from your hand onto the battlefield. This effect can only be activated once per turn, and only as a Sorcery.

5/5

Anger and stolen thunder crackle. He drives the Hellspurs to greater heights of tyranny.

https://www.facebook.com/MagicTheGathering.jp/

[lusty trench]

whyyyyyy

[trail anvil]

yeah idk this effect doesn't seem to line up very well with his lore but it's powerful at least

actually maybe not, that cost is pretty steep for the eff

[golden plover]

Man, kinda disappointed in Akul

I guess you sacc three tokens to cheat out Emrakul?

But like, he's sad

Shouldn't have been once per turn

If you can make 6 fodder guys, you deserve 2 good cards

[sudden lava]

new hydra

[twilit canyon]

that might actually be kinda decent in hardened scales

[trail anvil]

hot damn those keywords

[fallow citrus]

oh shit didnt see the hydra had haste

that might be a decent 1-2 of in scales yeah

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[copper pecan]

dwayne

[trail anvil]

holy shit best April fools

[zinc shard]

You get One with Nothing for Free

[twilit canyon]

weird. i see nothing

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UZQp68uSfVI?feature=share

[barren cairn]

Man

I hate commander so much only bc the mindset I get

I fucking hate it lile

I can't beat liberator or voja

And I fucked up one desicion in elves and died

Oh boy it sure doesn't make me feel like shit lol

[trail anvil]

winning is overrated in commander

[barren cairn]

Yeah the issue is

I find I cannot play aggressive decks well

I make one wrong desicion and then I might as well have toppled the Jenga tower, rolled a nat 1 on an acrobatics check, and driven my car into a pothole at the same time

forget to destroy dragon
Get bumrushed by two players at once and wait 30 minutes to play again

I need something where I'm very passive and no-one perceives me as a threat

[trail anvil]

play group hug

[sudden lava]

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/5/6/568c2687-4381-4954-9cab-f669d1fe6306.jpg?1696636767

Is a time lord doctor so you get your choice of doctor's companion as well

[barren cairn]

I guess

[barren cairn]

Avacyn is 10x better than krenko

[barren cairn]

I need a better krenko deck

He's too vulnerable to removal

[barren cairn]

i love playing fun interactive aggro decks

but i cannot play aggro

because if i am the threat first i have near 100% chance of losing

so i need something thorougly passive

something so weak and ineffectual that i essentially get a free pass on playing

[granite badge]

aggro basically can't work in edh imo

especially combat focused aggro

it needs to get insane fast and what usually happens especially in more casual pods is the moment your board starts to look like a bunch of 4/4's and 6/6s with evasion people gang up on you because you're "the threat"

[twilit canyon]

yeah edh is just inherently hostile to aggro

[sleek ferry]

I mean there is slicer

Who naturally speeds up the game

And most people unironically don’t know how to play vs it

[atomic harness]

as someone who had an aggro dream yeah I gave up

I do still like the 60 card formats so I just tune into that nowadays

simic growth chamber amulet of vigor

[granite badge]

I unfornutally only have edh as an option

And infrequently at that

Local scene is entirely edh/draft

Both stores have tried modern but player numbers consistently plummet and they have to give up

And standard? Lol

[atomic harness]

@sleek ferry esper goryo

I'd say the prime time and yawg are still the best decks but pleasantly surprised to see it in the A tier

[barren cairn]

Exactly the situation I find myself in

It's funny because krenko dosen't solve this

Bc goblins are inherently dependent on him so if he dies you die

Rockiric is shit, elves die to big dragon

But at least the voja player in our pod can beat me silly

[sleek ferry]

Excuse you?

[sudden lava]

I hope I pull goldvein hydra in like the prerelease, cuz that thing is like really good

[lusty trench]

Huh that's... A lot of good text

[granite badge]

Damn imagine if this waa in yarok colors

[trail anvil]

can we start saying "or battle" on effects like these

even though we won't get another for a while

maybe they want to keep it to only "any target" cards for now

[sudden lava]

can we get more battle cards

[fallow citrus]

we'll get some at some point

[golden plover]

https://www.tumblr.com/markrosewater/746481799714242561/mark-now-that-were-near-the-end-of-spoiler?source=share

So apparently this set is an outlier on legends

Still weird they keep saying "villain showcase"

Riku and Bruse are villains?

Marchesa also did nothing wrong

[lusty trench]

There's also some characters in there while having done some morally dubious things id hesitate to call "villains"

[golden plover]

Yeah like Selvala or Bruse or Vial Smasher

or Ghired?

[copper pecan]

was this not obvious

i feel like they were pretty clear that having a ton of returning characters was the focus of the set

[golden plover]

I mean, it's been that way for a couple sets, but it was kinda obvious

[trail anvil]

solid reprint 👌

[lusty trench]

We need the mind break trap now

[golden plover]

Does anything in limited search?

[lusty trench]

Yeah, the black rare

There's also a few ramp spells iirc

[fallow citrus]

love that leyline binding art tbh

[sleek ferry]

Solid game. Tivit vs Tivit vs Teshar vs Atraxa https://youtu.be/Yf84Vxx7di4?si=mkJYjv-Dp-1oPxyi

[golden plover]

I just realized they upshifted this to mythic lmao

They knew that card was pushed as hell in Dominara United then

(This set was made like a year ago, so Binding being included was like RIGHT after it was printed)

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgcCdRbM_8

||April Fools||

[lusty trench]

Just realised the new Obeka doesn’t have split second

That would’ve been funny

[lusty trench]

I have a feeling this is indeed going to be one of the limited environments of all time

[golden plover]

There's so many bombs that are gonna feel really bad in limited lmao

That and half the mythics are commander cards so they're not gonna do anything

Like Obeka and Riku

[lusty trench]

Hell yeah village rites 3

Hey, that's pretty good

If someone does this to me in limited I'm crying and going home

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/ong05nufuvrc1.png?auto=webp&s=3eb157254184e244675c07407d1f434572c5e1d4

This is fucked up

2/3 flier for 2 with upside

[lusty trench]

Art goes hard though

[golden plover]

True

I just think this dude is pushed as hell

Really easy to enable a 4/5 flying lifelink for 2

[lusty trench]

It'd have to be mana rocks or you're waiting till turn 7

[golden plover]

Not with plot

You plot it on T2, then play it on 5 before you play anything else

Comes in at 4/5 flying, lifelink

[lusty trench]

Oh shit true

[sudden lava]

oh yeah final card reveals for the set today (besides precons)

[golden plover]

Yeah this is kinda silly tbh

I don't know if this card has a home anywhere, but it wins you the game in draft and it's pushed as hell

[lusty trench]

Nah we still got the subset and that runs till the 4th

[golden plover]

[[Tomik]] takes WW and the rest of his effects are much worse

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “Tomik”, can you be more specific?

[golden plover]

[[Tomik, Advokist]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/31/tomik-distinguished-advokist

Tomik, Distinguished Advokist <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
Flying
Lands on the battlefield and land cards in graveyards can't be the targets of spells or abilities your opponents control.
Your opponents can't play land cards from graveyards.
"Some bend the law. I tie it into knots."
2/3

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuw67uhzRGc

[golden plover]

Decently solid card

Although I'm p sure that art was supposed to be for MKM

[granite badge]

MKM?

[fallow citrus]

markov manor

[lusty trench]

Bros coat doesn't have a collar it has a brim

Strictly better tormenting voice?

[golden plover]

Definitely

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/oazPPt7Dlro

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1224404925715582976/image.png?ex=661d5ef2&is=660ae9f2&hm=c61dbb1e333273e50e8b917126333e523181265f1f801131621a77b16474af51&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=660&height=355

backup commander for the naya deck ^

[lusty trench]

double vision reprint in new art

Yaaaaaaay wooooo love my 20p rare

I hope it's not actually double vision because damn that's too good of art to use on it

[golden plover]

Why'd we get this Nezumi and not Nashi?

https://preview.redd.it/yas1wzsuwvrc1.png?auto=webp&s=c1a6c882550d145323e6638fe32b4d7c95fcfd1b

[lusty trench]

Commander decks pope

New ninjutsu card in the decks, likely either nashi or yuriko

[golden plover]

I'm worried we're not gonna see him

Probably a balanced Yuriko

[lusty trench]

Please be an actual creature

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/bmtloers1wrc1.png?auto=webp&s=f640e9f710ac20d63107071c998225b73cb707a7

Wow this is AWFUL

[sudden lava]

Calling it, she's the secondary commander

[copper pecan]

could be okay in limited

red doesn't usually get cards that can easily deal with creatures with more than 4 toughness

[golden plover]

Yeah it's probably decent enough in draft

I just feel like it should have at least hit planeswalkers or done the bonus damage to a second normal creature

Dunno how many tokens are in this limited other than the mercenaries

[glad peak]

I hope there’s a similar spell in red that hits legendary creatures hard

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1224428311799791636/1hzdbop2xwrc1.png?ex=661d74ba&is=660affba&hm=b8b6b9ff3e90e53c8e504bbc62af35433f9ec47a3b0ba99ff74cd6b476c66d4d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=487&height=662

fastest reprint in the west

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1224410440591868055/IMG_0185.webp?ex=661d6415&is=660aef15&hm=ec60bdf86dfc83f4df6f4d83403ca09565c34523538db0e298556404e23ef60a&=&format=webp&width=1020&height=662

apparently this art is for a card named "five-boots felix"

[golden plover]

Must've known it was gonna be a solid card. Is this one seeing standard play?

[trail anvil]

yeah that's five boots alright

[twilit canyon]

no

[golden plover]

Because Leyline Binding is probably the earliest they could have known a card would be good without guessing

Since art and packs are planned a yearish in advance

[twilit canyon]

buried in the garden sees very little play

[trail anvil]

I mean why would it not be good

[golden plover]

Guess they thought buried would be better then

[trail anvil]

1 mana flash o ring

[golden plover]

I mean, yeah

Binding is insane

It even got upshifted here

[trail anvil]

it's at uncommon here, I don't think they thought it would be better

[golden plover]

True. Weird inclusion then

Gonna feel like shit to pull it in the slot that could've been binding or whatever

But tbh anything but binding or archive trap or mindslaver is gonna feel like shit in that slot

[trail anvil]

in limited it's solid removal

[golden plover]

True, but there's plenty of that in this set

There's like 5 o-rings

[golden plover]

Oh fuck I just realized you can blink this guy

He doesn't check to see if you cast him, he just has to enter

[trail anvil]

lots of cheap low cost reanimation spells too

wait do we get these cards on arena

[twilit canyon]

yes

incredible addition

fon next

[trail anvil]

ritual into necro who

[twilit canyon]

rit -> necro in response fon

its joever

[trail anvil]

omg the pack animation for the gold pack sealed is hilarious

[golden plover]

Put FOW in arena, cowards

[twilit canyon]

eventually

that will happen in mh3

trust

timeless will finally be healthy

[twilit canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931305913829195846/1224457382717948014/image0.jpg?ex=661d8fcd&is=660b1acd&hm=ef2c1f3008d091d3620e56882f7d7583377241852a7851c80e54154ddaf390df&

mill is in the menu for timeless now

[sudden lava]

yes it is

literally posted above

[trail anvil]

wait where

[twilit canyon]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/epilogue-1-the-invasion-tree

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1224528743318683789/xkhr2zcpwyrc1.png?ex=661dd243&is=660b5d43&hm=a90709cf5a3d7800e8e661db24410e9d678b72513e915ac16e48123387db9e9c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=393&height=543

[twilit canyon]

mill is in

[sleek ferry]

Let’s goooo

[clever sun]

They are really pushing good Timeless cards here

I'm hoping Force of Negation is added too

[atomic harness]

[trail anvil]

well damn

[copper pecan]

portal 3 kingdoms reprint

[atomic harness]

[trail anvil]

"Substitute Synthesizer" - 2U

Artifact (Mythic Rare)

When ~ enters the battlefield, scry 2.

Whenever another artifact with mana value 3 or more enters the battlefield under your control, create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with ‘This creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control.’”

karnstruct generator

[fallow citrus]

oh damn

that's juicy

[atomic harness]

[sudden lava]

do we know what the pre-release promo(s) are?

note slightly mistranslated, sacs a different artifact

[golden plover]

This guy's art is so weird

He looks like a league character

Weird the Fomori are "Beast" now too

[glad peak]

Cute

[rigid scarab]

What if the setcode is a typo and its actually a bloomburrow card

[golden plover]

Oh apparently Rudy Siswanto is the lead character designer for League

That explains why this guy looks like that

[glad peak]

So this is where all the nonhuman designs for league are going to

[golden plover]

I mean, the newest league champ is a baby dragon

Might not be the newest

A new champ comes out like every other week

[golden plover]

Big skullclamp

[lusty trench]

Damn they made Jace and vraskas get together and gave them a kid

Peak writing honestly

[golden plover]

Too bad their kid is an ugly yordle looking thing

[lusty trench]

I’m sure they’ll be revised later design wise, it’s mainly just the mouth I’m not overly fond of

[twilit canyon]

its about time the "suffering builds character" arc for jace concludes with actual character and less suffering

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/epilogue-2-bring-the-end-part-2

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1224766724356706465/image.png?ex=661eafe6&is=660c3ae6&hm=dcd58b17ff2222115252a488f91377bb6c6d5da701b48fe36eec2f0735746bb5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1440&height=630

huge reprint

[twilit canyon]

yoooo

[fallow citrus]

you could say

it's big

[golden plover]

Really cool art for him

[sleek ferry]

What a grand reprint

[golden plover]

Kinda wish he had been in the main set as a rare tho

[sleek ferry]

And yeah the art fucks

[golden plover]

Mythic on one bonus sheet won't help the price much

He's like $10, so not terribly pricey rn

But still would've been nice at rare

[golden plover]

Wow I hate Loot

He looks so gross lmao

Okay card tho I guess

Will be an EDH casual card I see a ton of complaints about

[sudden lava]

wait so whats the vault thing again?

[golden plover]

Ancient Fomori stuff

Including this ugly baby

[sudden lava]

I mean like product wise

[twilit canyon]

this fucks

[golden plover]

It was supposed to be an aftermath set, but that didn't work out because aftermath sucked, so now it's a bonus sheet

[sudden lava]

ah ok

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/ht5da6qim3sc1.png?auto=webp&s=c536b926e27ee5fbfd3cb0bf41efd1498edab508

Oof this sucks

For 5 mana I don't wanna give an opponent 7 cards to stop whatever I'm trying to do

They definitely overcorrected [[Memory Jar]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vma/276/memory-jar

Memory Jar <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Artifact
, Sacrifice Memory Jar: Each player exiles all cards from their hand face down and draws seven cards. At the beginning of the next end step, each player discards their hand and returns to their hand each card they exiled this way.

[sudden lava]

wouldnt even consider this in my paradox deck, 7 potential paradox triggers is not worth giving my opponents 7 cards potentially

[golden plover]

I guess some Boros Prison list might want it?

[twilit canyon]

its 5 mana

tho its more broken in a way? u can drannith magistrate with this but not jar

[sudden lava]

https://i.redd.it/uh9qk6nuo3sc1.png

your draft archetypes

[golden plover]

Yeah, that's kinda the only upside I'm seeing

You can potentially lock an opponent out of getting to use their cards

But realistically, if it doesn't kill them, it's not worth it

[twilit canyon]

it does 2 things

actually quite good

with magistrate it can be entirely gg

1st it impulse draws 7

2nd it creates a grand abolisher effect

since opponents cannot play their hand

until your next turn

[golden plover]

Yeah but you give them a potential 7 new cards to use

[twilit canyon]

even if you fail, opponents under this and magistrate are locked an entire turn cycle

[golden plover]

You've gotta also see magistrate

Or kill them with the 7

[twilit canyon]

this is commander

[golden plover]

I dunno, I'm not sure it's worth it

It's definitely not in any 60 card formats except maybe legacy or something

[twilit canyon]

u will see magistrate if u want

[golden plover]

In the theoretical deck where you see both every time it's game winning

But if you play it outside of that situation, they effectively get to draw 7 to kill you with

[twilit canyon]

they need to use those exact 7 + whatever is on board to win

[golden plover]

But so do you. It's maybe better than I'm reading it, but it seems not great tbh

[twilit canyon]

yes but you would be building with this card in mind

ie: led + breach

and having magistrate in play gives you so much free time to win

[golden plover]

Fair enough. I think it might be decent in the right deck then

[granite badge]

Such a silly lil goober tbh

[golden plover]

I wanna throw him back in the vault

[trail anvil]

someone in reddit comments said "league of legends design"

[golden plover]

Tbf he's quite literally made by league's head artist

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/507388259165536263/1224809141940391976/GKLUwxeWwAAPOVb.jpg?ex=661ed767&is=660c6267&hm=535ef8310708f4f38c8c511159ce64c6474e5aa762f6c4bf54f681fea30ce5ab&=&format=webp&width=950&height=550

he's just a scrunkly little scrimblo

[golden plover]

I liked the line in the story where Jace told his mom he raws Vraska frequently

[modern minnow]

how do we know vraska isnt rawing jace

[golden plover]

I guess we don't

All we know is that Jace told his mom they don't have a kid, not for lack of trying

[trail anvil]

what

holy shit you're not kidding

[hidden ermine]

Wait

How is that thing a Fomori?

[twilit canyon]

it was made by them

idt it is one

[copper pecan]

yeah i don't think it's a fomori

both of the ones we've had before had the giant subtype and this one doesn't have that

[golden plover]

I mean a 4 foot baby is probably gonna grow pretty tall

But I wouldn't consider a baby a giant in the first place

[twilit canyon]

its like 2 ft tall at most

[golden plover]

Omenpath Journey makes it look a lot bigger than it does in its own arts

So I dunno the scale

[lusty trench]

It's standing on a vine in that art

[golden plover]

Oh huh. Yeah his head is just really big then

[lusty trench]

Bigger heads is classic mascot design

[lusty trench]

How are we feeling about duelist of the mind

[trail anvil]

seems pretty solid for 2 mana, a 1/3 flying vigilance by default is already a great baseline before the other effects

in standard there are a number of draw punishing cards in the meta but even still

looting on each crime goes hard

also, white rigging

[twilit canyon]

white rigging lol

yeah this is great

[trail anvil]

I love this for okinec ahau tbh

[lusty trench]

What's y'all's thoughts on Stella lee as a commander

Especially since she goes infinite with a ham sandwich

[sudden lava]

Love the spell slinging girlboss

[stark skiff]

woah woah

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1224905363367661600/image.png?ex=661f3104&is=660cbc04&hm=d9de030ebec51d852ee2c748fcb22a6b8ca476f7acc9321ab7d6bab112711623&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=366&height=577

Not all applicable infinites shown on box*

[glad peak]

What are each of the infinites or conditions for infinite? I was looking to build her blue moon with some infinites but if she has enough then maybe turbo

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKKQm2LacAAEI-4?format=jpg&name=large

Introductory combo with fealty

Same line applies for the rest

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKKSlsQasAABUzW?format=png&name=small

[glad peak]

I know those ones but I mean some other cornercase ones

[sudden lava]

these 3 draws singed out as they are the 3 cheapest for the draw infinite

[broken fjord]

First thing I thought of when she was spoiled was Traitorous Greed. Probably not really worth it, but it is funny.

[zinc shard]

New Midweek Magic is wild. Almost got FTK'd

[copper pecan]

what format is this?

[trail anvil]

omniscience draft with 7 card starting hands

[lusty trench]

The formori stole my man's jitte

[glad peak]

W slicer support

Hold on this is actually sick with the stax variant

[fallow citrus]

oh wow this is good

[golden plover]

Oh got this set's limited is gonna be hell

[copper pecan]

it's a mythic

on the list

this card will show up in one in every 200 packs at most

[golden plover]

True. Still gonna be awful in the games it does show up

Jitte notoriously grinds limited to a halt

[twilit canyon]

this is infinitely worse than jitte

[golden plover]

It's also a lot cheaper

It'll still lead to a lot of the same issues in limited

[twilit canyon]

no

cus it only gains 1 charge

has no removal option

doesnt gain life either

umezawas jitte is insane bc it goes +1 on charge counters gains life and is removal

[golden plover]

This is cheaper but the +1/+1 and untapping lands modes are both really good in limited

I'm glad it doesn't gain life in limited at least

It being mythic on a bonus sheet helps a lot with it not being the worst thing to play against in draft

But it's still gonna feel bad to lose games to it

[lusty trench]

Nah this seems fine, the payoffs are small enough that I don't think it'd be a problem in limited

[golden plover]

I think the potential of threatening unblockable and counters is what can be annoying in limited

Outside of limited, I don't see this thing being that good (although it is grabable off Urza's Saga)

But I think the few games it'll show up in will be pretty grindy

[trail anvil]

lordy

[trail anvil]

this looks really nice in dimir midrange, it misses some creatures but doubles as a board wipe and can't be countered

[lusty trench]

Can someone ping me when the commander deck lists drop

[sudden lava]

Just gotta wait for tomorrow

[trail anvil]

Source: https://twitter.com/BanditMTG1/status/1775424535937839200

"Greedy Gamble" 3B

Enchantment

When ~ enters the battlefield, you draw three cards, gain 6 life, and create three 2/1 black Bat creature tokens with flying.

At the beginning of your end step, you discard a card, lose 2 life, and sacrifice a creature.

When ~ leaves the battlefield, you discard three cards, lose 6 life, and sacrifice three creatures.

[[blim, comedic genius]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/272/blim-comedic-genius

Blim, Comedic Genius <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Imp
Flying
Whenever Blim, Comedic Genius deals combat damage to a player, that player gains control of target permanent you control. Then each player loses life and discards cards equal to the number of permanents they control but don't own.
4/3

[trail anvil]

someone else suggested sacrificing it the turn you play it as a faithless looting, but I don't think that'd work too well. madness might?

[copper pecan]

Fomori Vault
Land
T: add C.
3, T, discard a card: Look at the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of artifacts you control. Put one of them into your hand and the rest at the bottom of your library in a random order.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1225302135613296731/popd5ij21esc1.png?ex=6620a28a&is=660e2d8a&hm=44c43b97433b5e13044e0603a793471a1670b61baace2af2df08613aa9ecc096&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=473&height=662

this seems really good for artifact decks in commander

[atomic harness]

Looks cute

[barren cairn]

u

[sudden lava]

what time do you think the reveal videos will drop?

[copper pecan]

https://fxtwitter.com/nilejoanrivers/status/1775599132498874615?s=46&t=ZIfF073n731cDF-X4fVfTw

[lusty trench]

I don't get it

[copper pecan]

balatro

[lusty trench]

Ah I see, I tried watching someone play that game but it confused me too much, seems like one of those things I’d have to play to understand

[granite badge]

Its not that bad

Think of it like a roguelike with poker theming and it starts to click more

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/qteolz029csc1.png?width=744&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fb1a2c79f82f0f75af653ea54941b03ae2ac55b

Wow... This SUCKS

This had to be an uncommon, right?

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXmOgLHOGQ&ab_channel=MTGMuddstah

[waxen timber]

It is weird being in green but, giving you like 1 life per turn seems okay

In commander, green life gain decks will love it

[sudden lava]

creature land

[waxen timber]

Also if there is like ever a bant control deck in standard I could see it seeing play

[lusty trench]

Wow deck has some nice value in it

Ancient greenwarden, avenger of zendikar and oracle of mul daya

Two colour math too

I’m happy with all the new budget hoofs they’re making too

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/qbxcp5q4bhsc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=129522379e700f80e4129d74c98ad999344f3efc

What the fuck

Okay so this is the "rare bonus card" for the fallout lairs

So think the petitioners or shadowborn apostles

[copper pecan]

i feel like this would need to be rare for limited purposes. repeatable incidental life gain that also ramps you is really strong in limited

[golden plover]

Meaning the rare bonus card is even more of a lottery than usual

That's fucked up

Like at least the petitioners, apostles, and rats are $1 commons and have cool rare arts

This only sometimes replaces a fallout lair bonus card for a card that's actually really good and is expensive as hell

Fucked up

[sudden lava]

oh btw, rule update on bounties

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/outlaws-of-thunder-junction-commander-decklists

previously it had to be exactly all 12

Now its 6 to 12

[golden plover]

I feel like they need to include the odds of getting a rare bonus card in an SL if they're gonna pull shit like this

Since this is just gambling where you don't know the odds now

[lusty trench]

Say the line bart

[golden plover]

The other two bonus cards for the lairs are [[Wastes]] and [[Codex Shredder]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/1055/wastes

Wastes

Basic Land
: Add .

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/304/codex-shredder

Codex Shredder <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact
: Target player mills a card. (They put the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
, , Sacrifice Codex Shredder: Return target card from your graveyard to your hand.

[golden plover]

Really gonna feel like shit to get a codex shredder over the mana vault

[lusty trench]

If I see this in one more precon

[golden plover]

But you guys love it

It's white ramp

[copper pecan]

it's not ramp it's just color fixing

[golden plover]

True. You guys love it tho

I dunno why that card is in every precon

It's ass

https://preview.redd.it/6x1oid4d9hsc1.png?auto=webp&s=f57948b8cf1332b3723ed4c8472ac4a5285c05ce

Weird to see a Zendikar angel here

I thought they couldn't operate off the plane?

[copper pecan]

wasn't that just because they couldn't get off the plane in the first place

[golden plover]

But aren't they powered by the Skyclave

Like they're weaker the further they are from the skyclave

Oh right did they show new art for [[Wreck and Rebuild]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/169/wreck-and-rebuild

Wreck and Rebuild <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
• Mill five cards, then you may put a land card from your graveyard onto the battlefield tapped.
Flashback

[golden plover]

It's in the decklist and I'm assuming they don't reprint it with the doctor who art

Oh and [[Sunscorched Divide]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/153/sunscorched-divide

Sunscorched Divide

Land
, : Add .
"To the Divide they came. In the Divide, they rest." —Ulysses

[golden plover]

Ah, video doesn't show reprint arts

Really hoping these two got in-universe arts

[lusty trench]

YES

[golden plover]

Ohh that's nice

Wish she cost 1 less tho

[lusty trench]

Yeah 5 is a bit ehh but plus side the face commander goes infinite with everything so

You can get a 1 mana target player draws a card and win with her that way

[golden plover]

True. It's not terrible, but 5 is a big ask

https://preview.redd.it/zxdfe26wkhsc1.png?auto=webp&s=50bb3444dd80701fe38142eaf6aff875809fe79b

What the fuck is a flamekin doing here?

[lusty trench]

What is terrible though

Womp womp wooooomp

[golden plover]

Yeah that sucks

Wait that's a shadowmoor flamekin too???

What???

https://preview.redd.it/yhq2y9v4ahsc1.png?width=918&format=png&auto=webp&s=6bd0dde408786dcb19e3d6cdaa9990ef28b6eede

Ooof

This lair sucks

[lusty trench]

We had all of these revealed but anger

[golden plover]

Steelshaper's Gift is the best card in here

But if you want a 1:150 chance at a Mana Vault, you gotta buy it

[lusty trench]

The bad

The mid

And the good

[golden plover]

Should've called them "the ugly"

You missed a chance

Thunderclap Drake is VERY good

[lusty trench]

Roghark drooling at the mouth

[hidden ermine]

Commanderstorm

[golden plover]

Honestly this one is ugly. Don't like the first person view from it

[lusty trench]

Reprints for this deck are eh

They got the good strixhaven commander legendary

[golden plover]

Still no in-universe arts for the UB cards I assume?

[lusty trench]

Which would those be?

Very confused why they reprint rousing refrain in here and not you know

The doctor who deck that wanted it

[golden plover]

The fallout lands and [[Wreck and Rebuild]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/169/wreck-and-rebuild

Wreck and Rebuild <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
• Mill five cards, then you may put a land card from your graveyard onto the battlefield tapped.
Flashback

[lusty trench]

I love £7 of my decks value being eaten by a card that was worth 50p and then spiked due to doctor who

Really nice art but it didn’t get focused so I can barely see it

[golden plover]

At least they showed it

The other one didn't

https://preview.redd.it/5e0i4unbdhsc1.png?width=698&format=png&auto=webp&s=f1d537f413a99fe20dcadefd0a877e7de765cc09

Nice reprint

Value of the lair

[lusty trench]

This deck while the reprints don’t super impress me (they’re not gonna reprint the expensive generic instant and sorceries in here those sell sets) it is just a super good out the box for spell slinger

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/4dgiqfnbdhsc1.png?width=690&format=png&auto=webp&s=b9fa62b1db5c8599cfb1f9cb12203d381861071e

Rest of the lair is fine

https://preview.redd.it/c8imttnbdhsc1.png?width=716&format=png&auto=webp&s=ddb69f471a9116255fa8868eafa55ac0b42855f9

[lusty trench]

Stax lair? Damn

[golden plover]

And this is what the "feels like shit" bonus card looks like

https://preview.redd.it/nnss6fnbdhsc1.png?width=936&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5d1f1eb198cb9611e9dbf02aa04d021c51b1a1e

The vast majority of these lairs will come with a codex shredder

The rare one is the mana vault

[lusty trench]

Who put this mid in my commander deck

[rigid scarab]

Me

[golden plover]

Why is is she back

[lusty trench]

Why is it £10

[golden plover]

Because MID was a bad set

[lusty trench]

Even the set is mid damn

[golden plover]

Set had meathook and....

[[Teferi Who Slows the Sunset]] ig?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/245/teferi-who-slows-the-sunset

Teferi, Who Slows the Sunset <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Teferi
+1: Choose up to one target artifact, up to one target creature, and up to one target land. Untap the chosen permanents you control. Tap the chosen permanents you don't control. You gain 2 life.
−2: Look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
−7: You get an emblem with "Untap all permanents you control during each opponent's untap step" and "You draw a card during each opponent's draw step."
Loyalty: 4

[lusty trench]

Think carefully pope there’s one you’re forgetting

You have forgotten my man

[golden plover]

Adeline?

Oh right, lier

[rigid scarab]

Stormseeker?

[lusty trench]

This should’ve been in the deck instead of that red card

Lier is based

[rigid scarab]

But

Stormseeker was good

[lusty trench]

Won me a draft so I’ll let stormseeker slide

[golden plover]

At $7, he's one of the most expensive cards in the set

Wow MID really did bomb, huh

[lusty trench]

At least it wasn’t crimson vow

My lgs is selling boxes of those for £50

Still can’t get rid of em

[golden plover]

Vow had...

Chandra and...

[lusty trench]

Wedding invitation

Toxril and some lands

[golden plover]

Hullbreaker

[lusty trench]

That’s sitting at a cool £3 rn

[golden plover]

Wow... Such a good set

https://preview.redd.it/hqob6lsunhsc1.png?width=538&format=png&auto=webp&s=df145c663fda26b7bf7459ff0cf46d0fbc3d6f5c

What the fuck did they do to my son

What plane is he from

[lusty trench]

I kinda like it but his head is a bit big

[golden plover]

He's gross now

That's not my beautiful boy

[[Guttersnipe]], my pauper all-star

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/110/guttersnipe

Guttersnipe <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Goblin Shaman
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, Guttersnipe deals 2 damage to each opponent.
He wants to watch Ravnica burn, one soul at a time.
2/2

[golden plover]

(All Star in the sense that I keep trying to brew something for him in pauper)

Not in that he's good in the format

He's like... Fine in burn?

[twilit canyon]

no one is playing guttersnipe in pauper burn

[golden plover]

Hence why I said he's like fine

You could throw him in

But he's not like good

I do wanna find him a home in pauper, but affinity does anything you'd wanna be doing with the cheap storm cards

If we still had Chatterstorm or Warrens, he'd have been nice for the [[First Day of Class]] thing but there's not a way to play that deck now

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/stx/102/first-day-of-class

First Day of Class <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it and it gains haste until end of turn.
Learn. (You may reveal a Lesson card you own from outside the game and put it into your hand, or discard a card to draw a card.)

[golden plover]

They should downshift [[Hunting Pack]] so we can build this deck again, but worse

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/284/hunting-pack

Hunting Pack <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Create a 4/4 green Beast creature token.
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn.)
There is no "I" in "team," but there is definitely "meat."

[golden plover]

Dammit this is exactly what I didn't want the command tower card to be

[lusty trench]

Hang on a sec that’s actually somewhat decent

[golden plover]

It's really solid

My issue is that any deck with green in it now runs 1 less card

Because every green deck plays this to search command tower

[sleek ferry]

No way you play this in cedh

[golden plover]

Probably not

But in every non-cedh deck there's 0 reason not to run it

Searches the best land in the format for casual decks

[lusty trench]

This deck is doodoo

[golden plover]

Yeah other than the snake, it's kinda ehh

But the snake is an instant staple

[lusty trench]

Most expensive reprint is minds dilation

[golden plover]

Damn, it's not Nashi

[lusty trench]

one or more

Cringe

For 6 mana this should’ve been one not one or more

[golden plover]

True

Well he's 4 in ninjitsu stuff

I think tower winder is weaker than I initially thought but still don't like his design at all

[trail anvil]

there he goes

stabharmonicon and painharmonicon have been my favorite names that I've seen

[sudden lava]

so all thats left to be revealed is the mardu deck?

[lusty trench]

Ye

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/g0nC2f7E6IE

elder dragon hijinks about to have a 4 precon showdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rURePA5zR6M&ab_channel=TheCommandZone

[golden plover]

And no Nashi

[lusty trench]

Final precon is certainly a tribal deck

Random command beacon reprint

[golden plover]

This one kinda sucks

[lusty trench]

Vihaan is the best card here

[golden plover]

There's like no cards in here that are exciting

It's really just "outlaw tribal"

[lusty trench]

And even he isn't really what treasure decks want really

[golden plover]

I mean, there's already a better way to kill an opponent with treasures

[[Cyberdrive Awakener]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/nec/12/cyberdrive-awakener

Cyberdrive Awakener <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338>

Artifact Creature — Construct
Flying
Other artifact creatures you control have flying.
When Cyberdrive Awakener enters the battlefield, until end of turn, each noncreature artifact you control becomes an artifact creature with base power and toughness 4/4.
4/4

[lusty trench]

They really said "create treasures" and then gave like 3 ways to make treasures

[golden plover]

Or...just cast a big fuckin fireball???

[lusty trench]

Not even a black market connections

[golden plover]

Wait really?

It just got that really bad art reprint too

[[Black Market Connections]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/181/black-market-connections

Black Market Connections <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your precombat main phase, choose one or more —
• Sell Contraband — Create a Treasure token. You lose 1 life.
• Buy Information — Draw a card. You lose 2 life.
• Hire a Mercenary — Create a 3/2 colorless Shapeshifter creature token with changeling. You lose 3 life. (It has every creature type.)

[golden plover]

Straight up what is going on here

Are there water elementals on Ixalan?

I can't remember seeing any

[lusty trench]

At this point everything is on junction

[golden plover]

Yeah true

But that was an Ixalan reprint

What was that art supposed to be

[lusty trench]

I think they're meant to be shapeshifters

Cause of the token

[golden plover]

True, but there's no shapeshifters on Ixalan either

[lusty trench]

Actually

[golden plover]

Oh huh

And [[Pirated Copy]] I guess

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https://scryfall.com/card/j22/16/pirated-copy

Pirated Copy <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Shapeshifter Pirate
You may have Pirated Copy enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield, except it's a Pirate in addition to its other types and it has "Whenever this creature or another creature with the same name deals combat damage to a player, you draw a card."
0/0

[lusty trench]

Underwhelming reprint this time around

[golden plover]

Yeah, this is the weakest of the decks by far

[lusty trench]

Honestly I rank the sultai deck lower

Mainly because the sultai deck seems really confused

Thunder junction precon rankings

1. Stella lee spell slinger
3. Desert tribal
4. Olvia outlaws
5. sultai ghonti

[golden plover]

Poor Ghonti

Why do they hate him

Also, the Sultai deck showed me they really need to keyword his ability

https://preview.redd.it/ajgz0um4vhsc1.png?auto=webp&s=14e6b61d6be176d99a91357d47a9069cb75b4418

Think of how much text would be saved by keywording "as long as it's exiled, mana of any type can be spent to cast that spell"

[lusty trench]

I have officially gas lit another into calling him ghonti

It's such a better looking name

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/6requbmfvhsc1.png?auto=webp&s=b74a45db92ba30d966fc61fe4206218b357e1544

Same with this one

Just keyword it

[trail anvil]

this one is real funny

[golden plover]

"It's extorted as long as it's exiled (you may spend mana of any color to play an extorted card)" or whatever

Extorted doesn't sound clean enough, but you get the idea

[trail anvil]

well extort wouldn't work as a keyword

[golden plover]

Yeah fuck forgot about that

Bribed?

Paid Off?

[trail anvil]

that doesn't really fit the flavor for everything

[golden plover]

Something like that, I dunno

The flavor is Gonti (and other cards doing it) cheating in deals

So something like "Cheated" but not literally cheated would work

Ohh, what about "Debased"

I like that

[trail anvil]

the connotation of debasing is distinctly negative

[golden plover]

The connotation of the ability is negative too

Gonti is bribing others to use their resources

There's other times it's shown up, but it's almost always in the same flavor as Gonti's

[trail anvil]

no I mean negative as in debasing is like akin to "losing value"

or "losing position"

[golden plover]

Hell, "conscripted" works

This ability just needs a keyword since it's a ton of text every time it shows up

[trail anvil]

adapt would've been nice if that wasn't already keyworded

same with reconfigure lmao

"adjust"?

[lusty trench]

Repurpose

[golden plover]

"Repurpose" is do-able yeah

[trail anvil]

what if you didn't keyword it and just said "Remove its color requirements"

like how xyz material was shortened to material

[golden plover]

Honestly that works too

Could be a little vague tho to new players

Might read as "you only have to pay the non-colored mana"

[trail anvil]

that doesn't work, they'd assume a 1WU cost would cost 1

[golden plover]

Yeah that's what I'm saying

"Remove it's color requirements" might come off as that

There's gotta be a way to shorten the effect tho

[lusty trench]

"you may cast repurposed spells by paying mana equal to their CMC"

Issue with that wording is it removes colourless

[golden plover]

Ehh, it's closer

Oh right

https://preview.redd.it/621exr1bvhsc1.png?auto=webp&s=6a635406e2de74a8be31231d8221c1ec93518754

[trail anvil]

what do you mean removes colorless

[golden plover]

This was the "2 mana dork that taps for 2"

[lusty trench]

Mana of any colour removes colourless no?

[golden plover]

Depends on the wording iirc

[trail anvil]

no you should be able to use any color including colorless unless it specifies otherwise

afaik

[clever sun]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveEDH/comments/1bvt6na/the_cedh_discord_server_has_been_hijacked_and_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[golden plover]

I think that working would be fine tho for the most part

[trail anvil]

honestly makes sense when the stealing deck is so expensive

[clever sun]

PlayEDH has stolen the main cEDH discord and is trying to monetize it like they do with their own servers

[golden plover]

Yeah, he's not bad. I was expecting our 2 mana dork to be green tho

[golden plover]

Damn.... That's really fucked up

[rigid scarab]

Oh thats not good

[trail anvil]

why did they give over ownership

[clever sun]

Apparently they wanted to make a deal with them and were told they could back out if it didn't go well

It didn't go well, they wanted to back out, and thr PlayEDH team removed the original mods and kicked/banned users speaking out

[trail anvil]

I guess you couldn't necessarily predict they would be this shitty but that's awfully bold

either way that sucks

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/wm2o04scvhsc1.png?auto=webp&s=4d1049d736b5a13d1b2317d397b1c55198a232b6

Pretty solid card tbh

But weird they depicted an Atiin as a the trader

[sudden lava]

Ben Brode 😮

[golden plover]

Probably should have gone with a fantasy race to avoid the real world connotations

[sudden lava]

I think Im just gonna skip the precons this time, and use the money to go to pre-release

[golden plover]

I think if you're going for a precon, Izzet is the way to go

Sultai, Mardu, and Naya all kinds feel decent-bad

[lusty trench]

The izzet deck is basically just everything you need for edh spellslinger

And the upgrades you can make are really cheap too

[golden plover]

It's missing a great payoff

But you can buy a [[Grapeshot]] or [[Brain Freeze]] for cheap

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https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/125/grapeshot

Grapeshot <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Grapeshot deals 1 damage to any target.
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
Mages often seek to emulate the powerful relics lost to time and apocalypse.

https://scryfall.com/card/vma/57/brain-freeze

Brain Freeze <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Target player mills three cards.
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)

[golden plover]

Was kinda hoping we'd get brain freeze in the modern frame here

[lusty trench]

Brain freeze is £5

Alternatively

[golden plover]

It's like $10 US

Would have been a good reprint

[lusty trench]

£1 draw entire deck

[golden plover]

But you wanna kill them

Brain Freeze kills them

[lusty trench]

Yeah but you just dig for grapeshot

Or guttersnipe

[fallow citrus]

wait have they started doing the modern tourney with pauper now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sksjCNQKJ5s

pog

[twilit canyon]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L7KURPLX5jv1_LjYqnlH1JpaBQmmI_-_0sbC_mrMfzQ/edit#heading=h.skcsltkyi8aw

apparently it was a lot of misdirection from the playedh team

scumbags

[stark skiff]

Holy shit this is nice

[trail anvil]

oof

[golden plover]

It's the same rarity as a petitioners or whatever. Most people won't get it

Fomo on top of fomo

Most people get a [[Wastes]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/1055/wastes

Wastes

Basic Land
: Add .

[stark skiff]

Yeah but the art is nice haha. Sucks it’s gated though smh

[golden plover]

Yeah, dunno why it can't be a regular bonus card

[twilit canyon]

@clever sun you get banned too now lol

[clever sun]

Yup lol

I shared the Grixis server link and that got me banned

[twilit canyon]

lmao

playedh mod team is going full scorched earth on any dissenting voice in the main server

[stark skiff]

Hope it’s cheapish at least as I think it’s my favorite artwork out of them.

[trail anvil]

man I have to get this naya precon, it looks fun as hell

[lusty trench]

It’s a good out the box land deck yeah

[granite badge]

Wait whats going on

[copper pecan]

they scammed the original mods and stole the discord server

[lusty trench]

TLDR:
Playedh took over the cedh discords moderation and ownership whilst discussions were being finalised between the two to transfer ownership, there was a bit of push back so the owners of the cedh wanted the ownership and moderation of the server back under their control so they could renegotiate, then playedh went scorched earth and basically banned them and anyone who mentions them or their deal, citing not enough being done to protect lgbt people during the last month as the reason for this despite them being the ones in full control during that month

[twilit canyon]

i was in there trying to figure things out and i got banned for sharing info about it that they themselves posted

[lusty trench]

At least that is my understanding of events

[clever sun]

And I got banned for sharing servers that were within the same server

[lusty trench]

They might just have it set to ban all links posted?

Or all discord/imgur/reddit links?

[clever sun]

No it was servers within their own approved links

[lusty trench]

what I mean is if you post a link it gets picked up even if it’s one they themselves posted/left up earlier

[clever sun]

Nope

They were manually banning people

[lusty trench]

Damn manually is crazy

[clever sun]

They banned a user complaining about transphobia on PlayEDH servers and games

[lusty trench]

That’s disgusting but I wouldn’t expect any less at this point

[granite badge]

I think I was in PlayEDH for a bit

never used it cause it felt too unweildy

[twilit canyon]

they monetize the shit out of the process

[granite badge]

can't say I'm surprised that there's transphobia lol

[twilit canyon]

they have had a ton of issues with moderation, content, quality etc etc

[granite badge]

...doubly not surprised

[granite badge]

man I'm reading this rn and I'm getting war flashbacks to the kinda essays I got staffing furry servers lmao

some of the most corporate speak essays I've seen lmao

[lusty trench]

I just realised you can clone this card using things like phantasma image and still get the etb

Because you did cast it

[sudden lava]

remember this counts opponent's stuff

[sleek ferry]

Wait lmao

This is a new win con

[sudden lava]

Opponent plays a lot of spells in 1 turn
Cast crackling
Cast a cheap burn spell to rip them apart.

[sleek ferry]

@twilit canyon hear me out, this is red thoracle

[twilit canyon]

absolutely the fuck not

[sleek ferry]

Idk how, but this is going to be a new win con

[lusty trench]

This card is a lot of things

Red thoracle it is not

It's 5 mana, you need to have a storm loop online and a valid card to win with afterwards

[sleek ferry]

The mana isn’t important when you’re in dockside colors

[lusty trench]

? It absolutely is?

[golden plover]

Good

He deserves it

[clever sun]

Me too

[sudden lava]

I had a great time at locals

a good mothman game, and then a good final game with Clara12 before I upgrade it with thunder junction cards

https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/c/bc78993c-ca67-43b3-a64d-ce0c3bc415bc.jpg?1562440260

Clara12 game I lost to a missy player who looped ruthless ripper

[clever sun]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ycg8FbRErkqzXIhOsuKwyg

I have begun cooking for this format again

[twilit canyon]

shes back

all it took was drama

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-lets-goo-lest-gooooooooooooooooo-gif-19416648

[clever sun]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-jim-carrey-im-back-back-return-gif-4781968

I'm taking over cEDH with Grixis. Out to prove you don't need inferior colors like Green and White.

[granite badge]

okay stupid question

how do you rank up in arena

[copper pecan]

win in ranked matches

[granite badge]

....even stupidier question

where is the ranked matches

I've been queing into whatever it defaults to which is standard b01

[copper pecan]

go to play > find match > ranked

[trail anvil]

can you take a screenshot of what it looks like after you click play? @granite badge

[fallow citrus]

not a big commander person but this card seems really cool for a more casual list

[golden plover]

These are cool as hell

[clever sun]

INALLA

[clever sun]

Picking this up ASAP

[golden plover]

Sad they don't all realistically go in the same deck, but they're all really pretty

[lusty trench]

Very cool, not for me sadly but very cool

Are all the drops being announced today?

[golden plover]

Not sure

Value-wise this one is like just on the cusp of being the price of the lair

And considering fancy arcane signets hold value, it's probably worth it

[lusty trench]

My only thing about it is the sword of the animist while a good inclusion doesn't really fit the art

Sword of light and shadow makes sense but that sword is doodoo

[zinc shard]

damn if i still playedf IRL I'd get 4 Aether vial in a heartbeat

[trail anvil]

holy shit these go hard as hell

[lusty trench]

The tokens in thunder junction go hard