Magic the Gathering

[twilit canyon]

scam lives and dies by dauthi voidwalker

but holy shit lol

[sleek ferry]

Well scam definitely ||lived||

[merry owl]

prediction: ||get gaaked||

that was a surprising result

[twilit canyon]

imo it was a predictable one

[rich bronze]

In what form would you print K,TGC into ygo

hmm

[twilit canyon]

i expected gaak to put up a better fight but vs a deck that maindecks dauthi voidwalker there was no chance

[glad peak]

yeah it was sort of predictable since it mains a ton of hate already for gaak on accident

[merry owl]

i think it's draw dependent, given more games gaak would come out on top

[glad peak]

ktgc in ygo is either just play something from extra deck or grab something from side deck but i can't remember if yugioh has any of those

[rich bronze]

Also fun fact someone tried to steal 2 cards from my deck last week at my lgs while I had my back turned but the owner was watching the cameras and literally stormed in

not bringing those two cards to casual edh night anytime soon I guess

[rich bronze]

No we don’t have any actual wish effects

hence why I think some form of Karn would be cool

[twilit canyon]

maybe some of the newer builds with harvester over maindeck voidwalker

but lists with voidwalker main are already on a good foot vs gaak

[fallow citrus]

I think the closest you would be able to get to karn is something like uh

[rich bronze]

I posted Wish in gen chat

And everyone got scared

lol

[fallow citrus]

[[number 97: draglubion]], which is something that just gets you a guy from ED

[lost widget]

No card found for “number 97: draglubion”

[fallow citrus]

oh ffs I get them wrong all the time

[number 97: draglubion]

I am in pain

this motherfucker

but there's no direct translation you could ever make other than just like

"summon x thing from x place"

thrust is basically yugioh's ktcg in terms of "grabbing hate piece for x deck" though

it just doesn't grab from side

[meager isle]

We making stuff up now?

[rich bronze]

I mean that’s what happened tho

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz0NNG6tvGo

its time chat

they're playing the precons out of the box

and planechase

[rigid scarab]

They literally had this exact lineup

This year

[zinc shard]

Ohhhh, you're gonna regret casting that

[sudden lava]

Planechase

gotta watch this later

[sudden lava]

watching now

and ooh I like what they did here

bad wolf hidden under playmat

[sudden lava]

spoilers for game knight episode

||Josh having a bunch of Daleks absolutely destroying people gets absolutely wrecked by the weakness of his daleks not being able to levitate, should've had that levitating dalek out for any flying creatures||

[hidden ermine]

I will say

As someone who was a bit skeptical of UB design-wise

The dr who cards really just are so sick

[sudden lava]

very good episode ending

[zinc shard]

||"And my Daleks can't fly"
"Daleks can fly"
"What the #@$%? Why aren't my Daleks flying!?"||

[stark skiff]

he had the outdated version

[rigid scarab]

You can still make passion out of corporate greed

[lusty trench]

Im just happy the set made time counters relevant again

[sudden lava]

||el-e-vate||

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/UUPy_boRuH4

[merry owl]

Picked up a doctor who deck and got these as promos

[fallow citrus]

ohh very nice promos

[copper pecan]

thinking about how when they ported [[collected company]] over to duel masters they decided to have the flavor be "mermaid asmr" for no apparent reason

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dtk/177/collected-company

Collected Company <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Look at the top six cards of your library. Put up to two creature cards with mana value 3 or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
Many can stand where one would fall.

[trail anvil]

[sudden lava]

what you get from your collector booster?

collector booster sample*

[zinc shard]

Man made a Rats deck for standard, its actually kind of legit

haven't gont to ranked yet but we'll see

[rigid scarab]

Whats chats thoughts on

In a multiplayer environment

Acting salty as a bluff

[waxen timber]

1. It's awkward
2. If you do it too much they won't believe you when you are actually salty

[golden plover]

Yeah I don't like the idea of it

You just kinda come off as an ass, even if it's a bluff

[meager isle]

I guess it depends on the salt

[rich bronze]

This isn’t poker

Just chill

unless it’s some high stakes tournament

[glad peak]

Just show no emotion at all you’ll be fine

[golden plover]

It's fine to be like "damn there was a better target" but being salty is annoying

and bluffing salty is worse

[rich bronze]

Yep

Don’t minmax the fun out of the game

[glad peak]

Minmaxing is fine, being salty or hollywooding is something else altogether

[meager isle]

looks at camera*

[modern minnow]

honestly i think the worst play experiences come from someone trying to utilise salt e.g. "i'll quit if you blow up a specific permanent"

[glad peak]

Looks at camera and poses dramatically

[rigid scarab]

I remember when someone pointed a kill spell at Blue Braids

And the player immediately showed their hand and scooped

They had fierce guardianship

[sudden lava]

Why must Amazon be so slow

[rigid scarab]

Lets get a webcam game with Summers precon

[sudden lava]

with my computers bad camera? XD

[rigid scarab]

Yes

[stark skiff]

Rip. I finally bought the Masters of Evil deck. Found a place that’s selling all the decks at a reasonable price!

[lusty trench]

Tfw you know a cards gonna go up

[rigid scarab]

You know what I want to come back

No standardized method for writing card effects

Give us a secret lair or something

Where a planeswalker or something is written like it was in alpha

[glad peak]

Didn’t we have that?

[rich bronze]

B&R expectations for tmrw?

[twilit canyon]

obm

[glad peak]

all of the cards you just bought

[trail anvil]

one bunch man

[sudden lava]

only 2 more days at minimum

hope my sample collector booster has something good

[lusty trench]

I bestow upon ye that your uncommon be displaced dinosaurs and your rare everybody lives

🫡

[fallow citrus]

I mean my expectations for the b&r are minimal but my copium is that grief dies

[clever sun]

It's probably Orcish Bowmasters going

[fallow citrus]

understandable I just find scam boring rn

[glad peak]

Isn’t obm the card that gave them the huge boost in the first place? Banning obm would bring scam back down to where it was before

Oh and unban ponder because obligatory murktide unban (mostly kidding but the last ban announcement talking about murktide was kind of weird)

[fallow citrus]

I mean scam was getting bigger and bigger before the lotr set dropped

just so happens that scam is in the same colours that obm is in so they just got even better bc of it

scam becomes a lot more.. player friendly? I'm not sure what word I would use to describe it but like

you have a lot less bad feelings associated with scam if someone drops fury vs ripping 2 cards

[zinc shard]

Bro stop offering this card style its banned everywhere

[rigid scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auU7ZRbhEak&t=817s&ab_channel=EDHRECast

[rich bronze]

Chat

Opinion on printing grindstone into modern

I’d love to play painter in modern

[glad peak]

If 2 card win conditions are too much for modern as is then I don’t see why painter combo would be allowed

[rich bronze]

because 1) it’s funny 2) I play it in legacy and I want to play it in modern

???

[glad peak]

I want to play doomsday with dark rit in modern, they won’t let me tho

[rich bronze]

Also isn’t creativity a one card win

[glad peak]

Actually hold up

Give me tainted pact

Now that’s a worthy deck building constraint

[fallow citrus]

what's the point though

like why are we just printing cards into modern to make it legacy lite

I wouldn't disagree that painter+stone need reprints but I don't agree that we should just start putting decks from other formats into each other, or there'd be no point having distinct formats

[trail anvil]

god keeping up with emry feels so good

[glad peak]

because 1) it’s funny 2) I play it in legacy and I want to play it in modern

[fallow citrus]

ok? so keep playing it in legacy then

[glad peak]

I’m copypastaing what the other guy said

[fallow citrus]

oh sure I didn't see

[meager isle]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/october-16-2023-banned-and-restricted-announcement

No changes

[twilit canyon]

[zinc shard]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/what-are-play-boosters

Starting with Murders at Karlov Manor, Draft and Set Boosters are being combined into "Play Boosters"

"In the past, The List has mostly been reprints of older cards. Play Boosters are going to tinker with what exactly can be on The List. For example, when Play Boosters premier, The List will include what we call Special Guests, 10 cards that are exciting reprints that we can give new art and will thematically tie into whatever set they are in. What we do with the Special Guests will change set to set. (Though The Lost Caverns of Ixalan will not have Play Boosters, Special Guests is debuting with that set, so you should already have some idea of what those will look like.)"

In addition to the Special Guests, there will be 40 cards that are reprints without new art. Of those, 30 will be common or uncommon and 10 will be rare or mythic rare. This is down from the 300 cards that previous iterations of The List had.

Here's your likelihood of getting items from this slot in the first Play Booster:

87.5% – A common from the main set
9.38% – A common or uncommon normal reprint from The List
1.56% – A rare or mythic rare normal reprint from The List
1.56% – A Special Guests card from The List

[lusty trench]

My only concern is pricing, is this going to be the price of set boosters or the price of draft boosters

[zinc shard]

Set Boosters

Boxes are gonna have 36 packs

[lusty trench]

welp that sucks

[meager isle]

Will playing in Limited events cost more?

Likely, yes, Play Boosters match the cost of a Set Booster, not a Draft Booster, which will result in Limited environments going up in cost slightly. However, the expected value of the booster went up as well because there are opportunities to pull additional rares and mythic rares. So yes, you will be paying slightly more, but you'll likely be getting more value out of the boosters. Your rare/mythic rare card ratio per dollar spent will be staying the same.

Wotc: “give us more money”

[lusty trench]

We hear your grief and fury about our banlist, but shut up, no bans, pay more for draft

Hope you enjoy losing an occasional draft match to some bullshit list pull too for whatever reason

[meager isle]

FIRE design baby

[golden plover]

Very cool we're phasing drafting out to make the game cost more

When they keep increasing the cost every few months as is

[golden plover]

Not even a "we're keeping an eye on this card" lmao

[fallow citrus]

thank you wotc for this great list, keep it up

[golden plover]

Wait this just super incentivizes rare drafting now that you can use the list bombs right?

Holy shit this is gonna backfire the SECOND we get a bomb heavy pack in it

Love paying $10 more for a draft to lose to the guy who got Jitte and Skullclamp

Wait the odds for Special Guest cards are 1 per CASE?

Wack

[modern minnow]

wait theyre getting rid of draft boosters i thought these were just replacing set ones

[rigid scarab]

I think the post made it clear that

This isn't a change they wanted to make

If anything this is good for store owners

Practically cuts cost of ordering product in half

With a negligible hurt on profit

[trail anvil]

y'all are we just gonna assume every decision made by wotc is to shit down our throats and make us swallow

[lusty trench]

You say this like they couldn't of just... Kept them the same

They're posting record profit regardless

They optimized their product, because they deemed limited packs not as profitable, and in a way that allows them to be open to criticism as it affects a portion of the player base who now have to pay more for a pack they didn't ask for and that actively damaged limited

[meager isle]

They definitely wanted to make set boosters.

[sleek ferry]

This is actually such a cool change in terms of sealed tbh

Drafting will be affected though which is sad

[golden plover]

This would have actually been a really good idea at draft booster prices

The fact that it's at set prices tho sucks

I'm worried for limited at LGSes after this tbh

Most were having trouble doing $20 drafts for the standard sets

This is gonna bump them to $30 and make it way more bomb heavy

[lusty trench]

Both lgs near me were struggling to fire drafts the week after release if they were lucky

[golden plover]

Yeah there's only one lgs near me that can consistently do drafts

And they at least spice it up by doing older drafts

[sleek ferry]

Why are you surprised by the dooming Komi, this is literally a constant in this channel at this point lol

[golden plover]

So they'll do like $20 standard set one Thursday, then like $20 DMR or $15 innistrad next

[twilit canyon]

having met and talked with a fair bit of wotc employees i can safely say wotc cares about making the user experience better

[golden plover]

This change kills that

They probably won't have any chance of drafting when the buy in for a standard set is $30

This is really them "fixing a problem" that they made and causing everything to go up because of it

[sleek ferry]

Also werent y’all complaining about LGS’ struggling to keep up with product? Fusing draft and set boosters makes the LGS experience so much better

[golden plover]

Like it's a good chance for set boosters, but it really kills draft

If they were the $3 draft booster price tho, this would be a great change (other than more limited bombs)

[lusty trench]

We (or at least me) were complaining about the players being able to keep up with products, and it was never about set and draft, it was about the sheer number of sets they're making.

[golden plover]

Yeah there's a big difference between "players constantly feel like they've gotta buy new sets to keep up" and "there's 3 booster types per set"

Since the 3 booster types have been standardized since eldraine

You always knew what was expected from each

And most LGSes stocked set/collectors for pack cracking anyways and had draft boxes for when they were used/to sell for people who wanted to draft with friends

[meager isle]

Mtg is going to survive for a very long time I don’t think anyone is disagreeing and dooming

[golden plover]

What's gonna be real telling is if they change Arena draft to use play boosters (they won't)

Because if they do, that means they do think this is the better draft experience

[meager isle]

Kind of odd to chalk up criticism as “dooming” though

[golden plover]

When they don't because coding 200 extra cards a set and whatnot doesn't make sense, it'll be interesting

[sudden lava]

my cards arrive soon

[fallow citrus]

yeah nobody has ever doomed here not once

very pleasantly surprised to see this charity drive in bosh n rolls latest video though
https://youtu.be/iYc5sErS_fU?si=IezgNdO0TjUm-F2z

[twilit canyon]

up the beanstalk did sound like an insult lol

im actually glad the card has wiggled its way into modern

[trail anvil]

I feel like this is one of the best green cards printed in standard in a while

pretty cool to see it elsewhere

[twilit canyon]

its a ton of value for cheap and removing it sucks

spending a whole removal spell on a card that cantrips and doesnt impact the board but needs to be removed or it buries people

[trail anvil]

the fact that it cantrips I feel like pushes it insanely hard, a lot of the time cards like these tend to do nothing on the turn they come down

[hidden ermine]

Yeah I cant think of any other green draw engine like this that cantrips

[twilit canyon]

[[season of growth]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m20/191/season-of-growth

Season of Growth <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, scry 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.)
Whenever you cast a spell that targets a creature you control, draw a card.
"Awake, and lift your faces to the sun."

[trail anvil]

I watched someone [[temporary lockdown]] 2 of these, it got removed and the player drew 2 again

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/36/temporary-lockdown

Temporary Lockdown <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
When Temporary Lockdown enters the battlefield, exile each nonland permanent with mana value 2 or less until Temporary Lockdown leaves the battlefield.
"Any one of us could be compromised," said Karn. "No one leaves until we know who can be trusted."

[twilit canyon]

[trail anvil]

apparently there's a funky abzan control list going around bo1 ladder too that abuses this with the black and white marches

idk how much weight it holds in bo3 but plussing off each removal spell is so funky lol

[twilit canyon]

worse than bant

bant getting syncopate and white march is enough

oh and whale

[trail anvil]

into bo3 I'm sure, blue is real nice vs a slower meta

in bo1 the meta is mostly monowhite soldiers and monored afaik

[sleek ferry]

If I had a dollar for every time somebody sees me drop Ruby on 2 and not attack with it, and still tries to waste their time trying to remove it, I would have a lot of damn dollars

[trail anvil]

yeah that should be a pretty big tell

[rigid scarab]

In the grand scheme of things, "killing" draft in paper isn't all that big of a deal when compared to LGS profits

You yourself said that the LGSes near you had a really hard time firing draft events

[trail anvil]

I mean if what you said was true doesn't this do the opposite of killing draft, if it matches old packs then LGSes have to invest less money to maintain what they have now

[fallow citrus]

what decks are good rn on formats in standard

ie historic alchemy standard

[rigid scarab]

And is that not a good thing

[fallow citrus]

is that not what komi just implied

[rigid scarab]

You dont understand

I must assume every reply to me is confrontational

[twilit canyon]

dimir, bant, mono red, othet black midrange, other beanstalk decks all are solid decks

for standard

[sudden lava]

my order just arrived

[twilit canyon]

for historic: izzet wizards just won the arena championship but black-x midrange decks are great. rakdos resurgence, dimir, golgari, jund, are all good

[lusty trench]

Why are you assuming that LGS' are no longer required to buy the same amount of boxes? Except now all the boxes they buy are now at set booster margins making the upfront costs to lgs worse

[twilit canyon]

kethis combo and yawgmoth

mono-green devotion is also strong

[sudden lava]

time to see what I got from the collector pack sample

[lusty trench]

Good luck

[twilit canyon]

elves, humans, goblins, merfolk may have a chance back in the meta since obm is gone

[sudden lava]

omg yes!

[lusty trench]

Ay nice one

[lusty trench]

You can't just say "well it doesn't affect me so in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter paper drafts are dying" because people do enjoy it and it dying is bad for those people, the drafts failing to fire isn't for a lack of interest, it's for how much it's increasing

[fallow citrus]

I might peep some beanstalk decks

is it mtgazone that shows good decklists?

[sudden lava]

Works as a commander out the box to

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Amy-Pond-400x559.jpg

[lusty trench]

Crazy pairing

[sudden lava]

Donna Noble works as well

[twilit canyon]

for the most part yes

[fallow citrus]

sick I'll have a look then

[sleek ferry]

I have a jund list I’ve been playing to decent success

I’m just so burned out of rank rn

[fallow citrus]

mind if I peep the list

[sleek ferry]

Ignore the mana base, standard mana bases are too expensive for my f2p blood

[trail anvil]

idk why are you assuming that?

[lusty trench]

Because why would the amount of product change if everyone is consuming the same amount?

They'd buy less boxes sure, but that's because there's 36 in each, and are priced as such

[sleek ferry]

Well consider this, draft boxes if not being drafted stay on the shelf

Because set boxes were just so much better value

And gave you more rares+ in 30 packs

By combining both, you as a store owner have less of a headache

Now your boxes to sell and boxes to draft are 1

[lusty trench]

I mean not necessarily? Sets with a good rare pool like those with triomes/lands have draft boxes fly off all the same

[golden plover]

I also just realized it actually completely changes the draft format and makes new drafts incompatible with old ones

The simple difference of 14 cards compared to 15

[copper pecan]

i mean that clearly wasn't happening given that draft boosters were apparently selling really badly

[golden plover]

Packs won't draft as cleanly now

And chaos drafts will leave 1 player with one less card

That alone is a big change to draft

Yeah with 8 players (draft standard) all players pick 3 less cards

If you have less than 8 players, the number of cards each player drafts gets really wonky

Yeah I can't see any way this improves the draft experience

[sleek ferry]

Nobody is saying it improves the draft experience, but it’s a decent in between to combine draft and sets, which is overall a good thing imo

You owe the ratios of sets while keeping boxes the size of draft boxes, that’s a win for anybody looking to buy sealed product imo

[golden plover]

Nah I saw maro saying the new shit improves draft earlier on tumblr. But it really does just feel like an odd compromise

[copper pecan]

i'd very much rather they do this than just stop making draft boosters like people seem to want them to for some reason

[golden plover]

I mean I don't see why they'd have to do that

[copper pecan]

they explained their reasoning

people weren't buying draft boosters

it was either this or stop doing them

[golden plover]

All they've said was that they were buying them less

[copper pecan]

they were buying enough less of them that it was causing problems for stores

https://www.tumblr.com/markrosewater/731371520687046656/as-a-once-a-week-drafter-can-you-explain-why-i?source=share&ref=_tumblr

[lusty trench]

I guess this is my personal experience clouding me to the whole picture

[golden plover]

Same here

But I still can't help but feel like draft should have stayed

Honestly this really hurts the "they're not gambling" argument

[twilit canyon]

draft should have stayed at the detriment of the larger player base that doesnt draft and complains about product overload?

[fallow citrus]

hmm

might just play golgari midrange standard and farm ladder for a bit

[twilit canyon]

i personally like dimir in standard and historic

golgari only in alchemy

alchemy/historic

[fallow citrus]

I'm not committed yet so

I'll peep dimir

[twilit canyon]

historic dimir im testing lurrus rn but before nerfs was crazy with ring + shelly

[fallow citrus]

I was thinking maybe I just do mono red again but I just cannot be bothered after last time I played it

[twilit canyon]

rdw of course

but i think red is super boring rn

there is not much thought and play making ability through a lot of smart play

[fallow citrus]

only other thing I was thinking was potentially just going with zoo in historic

[twilit canyon]

atm

domain zoo is solid rn actually

[fallow citrus]

but I think that's just too many wildcards for me atm

[twilit canyon]

not sure i have a build yet tho

[fallow citrus]

I was gonna say with the beans in but I'm not sure

[twilit canyon]

eh

[fallow citrus]

scion isn't in historic right

[twilit canyon]

nope

[fallow citrus]

ah yeah no chance you play it then

[twilit canyon]

that is the biggest detriment to beanstalk

you do run the uh

the land cyclers

but u rarely cast them

[fallow citrus]

bloodbraid elf into bean then drop a binding

oh yeah you get the cyclers now

[twilit canyon]

ya

eagles and oliphant are the 2 u want

[fallow citrus]

yeah for sure

[twilit canyon]

all 5 are crafts for the format

troll and ent are the most niche in historic though

[fallow citrus]

oli having an effect for zoo too is crazy

[twilit canyon]

the big reason i dont have a build for zoo yet

[fallow citrus]

not that you should ever be hard casting it but sometimes it do be like that

[twilit canyon]

is

simply bc i think we could possibly have delirium

[copper pecan]

if anything the existance of set boosters was worse for this than play boosters are

[fallow citrus]

drc in zoo?

[twilit canyon]

drc + nactl + giver + kavu + brawler

[fallow citrus]

wild

[twilit canyon]

i think its possible

[golden plover]

I still think this doesn't really mean the draft booster/set booster distinction. It means "too many new sets are coming out back to back"

[twilit canyon]

we would get unholy heat too

[golden plover]

The 3 booster types were the same every time

[fallow citrus]

also does historic use normal or alchemy versions of cards

[copper pecan]

people absolutely meant it like this though

[twilit canyon]

alchemy

[fallow citrus]

hmm

[golden plover]

If you knew what booster you wanted, you bought it

[twilit canyon]

drc recently was unbanned thanks to obm nerf

[fallow citrus]

those bowmasters in my last list looking kinda unpoggers

[twilit canyon]

yea thank god

talk about soft bans on x/1s

[fallow citrus]

but yeah I guess you could delirium cause you have all your creatures

lands with cycling kind of?

[twilit canyon]

triomes

[fallow citrus]

tribal flames, helix

[twilit canyon]

your cyclers cycle into cycling

[fallow citrus]

exactly

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-bike-cycling-cyclist-bicycle-gif-16799229

[fallow citrus]

yeah you can like

get delirium kind of comfortably?

[twilit canyon]

u naturally run tribal flames

and leyline binding

[fallow citrus]

landcyclers reliably put dudes in your yard, drc can bin the sorc/instants

triomes can cycle themselves

[twilit canyon]

yep

delirium isnt hard to achieve

[fallow citrus]

or you can just bin the lands off of drc too

[twilit canyon]

the issue

deck slots

[fallow citrus]

hmm

[twilit canyon]

there is a lot to consider for it

[fallow citrus]

tempted to say bin nishoba brawler

[twilit canyon]

but it does have trample

im actually more tempted to cut nactl

[fallow citrus]

hmm

trading one drops isn't bad when you only play 1 normally

[twilit canyon]

since drc is taking the nactl slot as a 1 mana 3/x

[fallow citrus]

drc technically better

[twilit canyon]

or u can go crazy and drop giver

[fallow citrus]

of runes?

[twilit canyon]

hence why i havent finished this deck yet

yeah giver of runes

[fallow citrus]

didn't know you played that in historic zoo

[twilit canyon]

it became important since no ragavan

[fallow citrus]

yea makes sense

[twilit canyon]

and giver lets kavu beat the shit out of people in this format

what are they gonna do about kavu behind giver and soon to be stubborn denial?

[fallow citrus]

we have reprieve rn too right

[twilit canyon]

ye

[fallow citrus]

god deck space is tight yeah

[twilit canyon]

and im busy with grad school

[sleek ferry]

Dreadknight Carries golgari in standard so hard

[twilit canyon]

the mind is willing but my attention span is not

[fallow citrus]

yeah that's very valid

[sleek ferry]

Like card is so insane value wise

[fallow citrus]

go get that bread

[twilit canyon]

i am going insane keeping up with my hobbies + grad school

but im still top 150 mythic

[fallow citrus]

just slapped this together because I'm just not sure on the ratios for lands/cyclers, my biggest weakness of mtg deckbuilding tbh

[twilit canyon]

i had it off the top

ill get back to u about it when i get home

[fallow citrus]

yeah nw

[copper pecan]

how are people feeling about [[porcine portent]] in historic?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ywoe/23/porcine-portent-lend-a-ham

Porcine Portent <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
When Porcine Portent enters the battlefield, conjure a card of your choice from the Three Pigs spellbook onto the battlefield.
Boars you control get +1/+1.

Lend a Ham
Instant Adventure
Exile target creature. You gain 1 life for each Boar you control.

[twilit canyon]

havent tried it tbh

[rich bronze]

Do people still play the hearthstone format

I’ve heard it’s fun but tbh the whole idea turns me off

Like… I play hearthstone

If I wanna play hearthstone I’ll play hearthstone

[waxen timber]

I play historic sometimes cause it lets you play with a lot of your old cards and the lord of the ring and jump start cards

Though I haven't played it in a while cause I had a flash deck based on orcish bow masters that is now dead

[trail anvil]

btw apparently sets are now going to be 100 uncommons and 81 commons to offset the higher price of packs

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/179dhnm/maro_sets_with_play_boosters_will_have_81_commons/

[copper pecan]

it's more than twice as popular as explorer is

also it isn't really anything like hearthstone

[glad peak]

Just because it’s a format with balance changes doesn’t make it hearthstone

[sleek ferry]

Historic also gets a lot of love

Unlike explorer

I haven’t delved into historic since Lotr set though, but going off what Misty says the format is in a good spot

[twilit canyon]

especially with obm and one ring nerf

alchemy is still in a rough spot due to the power of mono black cards but its recovered nicely

[sleek ferry]

I'm about to cope on mother goose

[zinc shard]

NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT

(God I hate this art style)

[golden plover]

Honestly can we stop with this style

It feels like it's every lair

And they're always hard to read

Oh also this artist is an nft guy

https://preview.redd.it/ixtcvqiu3sub1.png?width=744&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f2ca741a3d7b592f9f18e649dcf4b50dbce578b

This one is incredibly cool

Too bad it's only for top 8 in regionals

[meager isle]

I’m generally fine with artists making nft art. if they get more profit and the customer knows what they’re buying then more power to them

[golden plover]

I guess it explains why they all look exactly the same tbh

Since most nfts are copy paste

[meager isle]

I know nothing about the artist but I do like the art

As long as he isnt a pos

[rigid scarab]

It looks like they actually tried to restrain themselves to make the rules text readable

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gf6_12mvVo

[fallow citrus]

https://youtu.be/uTIyHgYalXY?si=rGSNbpKU-X8v2GrX

[fallow citrus]

seeing commandeer popping up in modern is really neat recently

[meager isle]

https://tenor.com/view/bilbo-baggins-its-mine-my-own-my-precious-gif-22528281

It rarely happens but getting a pw is pretty brutal too

[fallow citrus]

watched spike play some of the bean deck has been fun

commandeer an ugin

[trail anvil]

are foil etched cards okay to play in the 99 for commander or can they only be used as the commander?

it feels more or less the same as the regular one but wanna make sure

[meager isle]

The normal ones yes, if you mean the THICK one in the commander deck then no

[trail anvil]

o yeah I feel what you mean, the thicc one is like actually just super solid

[stark skiff]

Wondering on Davros, Dalek Creator. For the villainous choice can an opponent still choose discard a card even if they have no cards in hand?

[lusty trench]

Yes

[stark skiff]

Ah sucks but figured that was the case. Thanks.

[trail anvil]

played my first games of commander today, was pretty fun

first game was over pretty quickly, not much to note

second one was vs 5c sisay shrines, arcades and OG ertai with a bunch of cards he pulled as a kid

I knocked arcades out with [[glissa's retriever]] cause he attempted to swing for lethal on me

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/onc/18/glissas-retriever

Glissa's Retriever <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Phyrexian Beast
Haste, toxic 3 (Players dealt combat damage by this creature also get three poison counters.)
Glissa's Retriever can't be blocked by creatures with power 2 or less.
Corrupted — When Glissa's Retriever dies, exile it. When you do, return up to X target cards from your graveyard to your hand, where X is the number of opponents who have three or more poison counters.
6/6

[trail anvil]

later on [[lethal vapors]] was on board, and I paid the 0 to knock the shrines player out with s reanimated retriever

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/scg/68/lethal-vapors

Lethal Vapors <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, destroy it.
: Destroy Lethal Vapors. You skip your next turn. Any player may activate this ability.
The vapors infiltrate every crevice, poison every lung, and snuff out every life.

[trail anvil]

and then the og ertai player won with very small attackers and 2 turns lmao

now I kinda wanna build ertai stax online

[rigid scarab]

Who's ertai again

[trail anvil]

[[ertai, the corrupted]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/pls/107/ertai-the-corrupted

Ertai, the Corrupted <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Human Wizard
, , Sacrifice a creature or enchantment: Counter target spell.
Altered by Phyrexian science, corrupted by black mana, and twisted by rage, Ertai still looked in the mirror and saw only glory.
3/4

[trail anvil]

I guess he isn't the very first but pretty old ertai

[rigid scarab]

[[Ertai, Wizard Adept]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/exo/33/ertai-wizard-adept

Ertai, Wizard Adept <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
, : Counter target spell.
"Was that it?" —Ertai, wizard adept
1/1

[rigid scarab]

[trail anvil]

I can't get over this dude's hair

[copper pecan]

i love how apparently he wasn't originally gonna turn evil, but they turned him evil because he was just really widely disliked

[stark skiff]

the artist also had some controversial takes

the guy is done as a character for the most part in mtg for now anyways

[zinc shard]

Bruh

At least show me what you were gonna tutor for

This is gonna be so easy

[fallow citrus]

I wonder

is it time for me to go down the dark path of farming bo1 with mono white humans in standard

I have gone down the path

[trail anvil]

sounds like a good elo gainer

also oof IHOP partnered up with mtga, but they chose to do an XP reward bonus code after the glitch that gave a ton of people like 6k free xp

[sleek ferry]

oh that's good, I was going to take my mom to ihop for breakfast

[lusty trench]

https://vxtwitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1714687795233730579?t=6MxzgYLgheYHM0R5MGjhOw&s=33

[fallow citrus]

man I think every game my opponent has taken first

[sudden lava]

Wait holy shit the fallout stuff is getting show off tomorrow :O!?

[copper pecan]

bruh i was not expecting fallout stuff so soon

ixalan previews are next week too

[sudden lava]

Im so excited for the Ixalan previews

https://tenor.com/view/omg-gif-27445797

[copper pecan]

we poppin' the biggest bottles when they reprint dreadmaw again

[zinc shard]

Etali is gone, a new Elder Dinosaur needs to take its place

[fallow citrus]

holy

https://vxtwitter.com/cloveralters/status/1714684230372864038?t=mvBDfmfb-F1W-a7VzUfOtQ&s=19

these lands fuck

[modern minnow]

damn its been like 3 days without mtg spoilers my withdrawls were starting to set in

[zinc shard]

Perpetual Hype Machine

[rigid scarab]

https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/731491677206970368/you-keep-saying-this-isnt-a-price-hike-but-for

[dense berry]

terese nielsen got canned for being a conservative long after ertai got hated out of the story

[trail anvil]

on the play vs baral

[zinc shard]

https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1715035084296798479

~40 minutes

Magic: The Gathering (@wizards_magic)

Please stand by.

Get ready @Fallout fans!
Our #MTGxFallout FIRST LOOK will be starting in just ONE HOUR!

Make sure your PipBoy is charged up and tuned into #WeeklyMTG so you don't miss out on this important #Fallout announcement.

Twitter · Oct 19, 2023, 4:00 PM

[sudden lava]

where do I see the cards

oh found it

[fallow citrus]

it's time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQcXYh4IHC0

huh, neat

[fallow citrus]

caesar seems cool

[glad peak]

Rex actually has a lot of potential, as does every card that can grab abilities

Caesar fueling himself and drawing cards is pretty sick on empty boards

[golden plover]

Wow that alt style looks really bad

Caesar is neat tho

[granite badge]

I've never played New Vegas (and also been falling out of MTG as a whole) but damn this is really tempting

[subtle sierra]

they could have at least changed the numbers in the vats overlays

they're just all the same

[fallow citrus]

oh so they are

kind of lame

I like the alt style thematically though

the frame and text looks good to me

oh these are cute

[lusty trench]

I like some of these cards, I dislike a lot of the alt arts, and I'm very confused at the fact Mr house is in Caesars deck

[sudden lava]

there is a whole lot here

but nothing I particularly like

except maybe the voltron puppy

[fallow citrus]

I imagine that's just because they put house in those colours and wanted to make the face card Caesar

[sudden lava]

and that VATS thing

[fallow citrus]

there's a world where Caesar is the secondary commander in House's deck

[lusty trench]

That's fair enough

[glad peak]

Hol up, we get a wasteland?

[fallow citrus]

although they did miss a trick

[lusty trench]

If it just ends up being new Vegas the deck I'll probably pick that one up

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1164614787678883910/image.png?width=2082&height=967

[fallow citrus]

could have made house include blue solely to make a counterspell with this on it

[fallow citrus]

yessir

[sudden lava]

unfortunately rad counters do not make you cooler

[glad peak]

Can we finally remove the soft ban on land destruction in casual tables

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1164615042210218106/image.png?width=682&height=967

[glad peak]

Rad counters are kind of cool ngl

[fallow citrus]

you know the answer to that question already

[lusty trench]

No, you should let me use my Gaia's cradle in peace

[glad peak]

I mean, if we’re banning precon cards

[sudden lava]

the mutant deck is all about giving the players as much radiation as possible

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1164615191737155584/image.png?width=1520&height=967

[fallow citrus]

wasteland and crucible in the same deck so you can spam it in casual

[glad peak]

Tbh I wish they’d use commander decks to reprint eternal staples more

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158945874429345792/1164620658190340186/image.png?ex=6543e082&is=65316b82&hm=86ac161fb7c11f8e6b76a4e74a7c130fc2f147fbe89d125198043e0f75bf5311&=&width=1532&height=967

[lusty trench]

Also damn, storm is making a comeback

Storm + keyword meta

[fallow citrus]

storm made a comeback when mind's desire came back smh

[glad peak]

Radstorm is very graceful card design ngl

Having only 2 words on the card and doing a bunch is cool

[lusty trench]

I better get a card called ringa ding ding baby

Also Benny and yes man partners

[sudden lava]

and they cannot fool me, this is all of history all at once for specifically counters you want more of on opponents

instead of time travel, its proliferate

[rigid scarab]

Does this have any real potential

Or is it fake

[sudden lava]

its real

[rigid scarab]

As in

Fake as in

Not good

[sudden lava]

too early to tell, but someone is gonna find a BS combo with it

[glad peak]

It’s pretty bad tbh

Way too much set up needed to do stuff with

[sudden lava]

also I kinda like the cyber puppy to

https://preview.redd.it/080gny1yz6vb1.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b1e04853b795a8fb8dd413f4fd7b27f2b694563a

[rigid scarab]

I was thinking maybe you can be cute and fruity with poison but

Way too much setup it looks like

[sudden lava]

https://i.imgflip.com/8357e0.jpg

[subtle sierra]

damn both of these are very on point effect wise

[copper pecan]

oh i get it, the treasure token is the bottle cap

[subtle sierra]

yeah

uh i might misunderstand the ability, but does mr house take the sum of dice into account for the first thing, or each dice seperately?

cause it'd be a cool "the house always wins" thing

[glad peak]

Wasteland is a good reprint, now to see if the others have similar reprints

[stark skiff]

the Vault Boy art is on point. Nice little reveal of contents.

[copper pecan]

i really like rad counters

[glad peak]

They make upkeep triggers awkward but I like how they play

[stark skiff]

I am surprised they went for a mill theme with them.

Figured it would be -1 counters or some negative reaction, with someway to get rid of them.

[lusty trench]

Each dice

[granite badge]

uhhhh

[zinc shard]

even Scryfall desesrves a break every now and then

[last glen]

Revolution II is better

[polar lake]

bro doctor who JUST released and we're already in ANOTHER spoiler season?

[fallow citrus]

yep

[sudden lava]

If only we can roll higher then a 6 with ease without using his second ability

oh wait

https://cards.scryfall.io/png/front/e/8/e87459aa-af8f-4bd2-a310-151353083a2e.png?1665157404

[rich bronze]

Man

I can’t take YGO price complainers seriously

When the biggest mtg comp format is like this

[waxen timber]

Sure that's the biggest competitve format but, not the biggest format

Commander is the most popular format by far where proxies are pretty well accepted and you can build really solid decks for $50 and below

[meager isle]

Magic really is just commander now huh?

[fallow citrus]

ok but they specifically said comp

[waxen timber]

Yeah but, I think that the statement biggest "competitve" is abritrary when most of MTG doesn't actively engage with that format

[meager isle]

Most of mtg doesn’t know what a planeswalker is

[waxen timber]

That kinda leads to why YGO price complainers are different

By nature of Yugioh being pretty much 1 format which is more competively aligned

[polar lake]

see prices like that makes me feel happy to only play Pauper and Commander

plz play more pauper y'all it needs appraisal

[fallow citrus]

why is it abritrary if it's literally the point being made

[meager isle]

tbf the point is pretty stupid too

I can’t take YGO price complainers seriously

like okay

god forbid they don't want to pay $100 for a card

[fallow citrus]

I mean sure make that your argument but there's no point trying to make the argument about something else

[granite badge]

Ain't no way you're saying deck prices dom't matter because formats with cheaper prices exist(and even in commander your mileage heavily varies from playgroup to playgroup based on how proxy friendly they are + individual popular commanders sometimes wanting massive expensive manabases) holy shit no wonder I stopped checking here if this is the quality of take

[sudden lava]

How to make Nuka-cola vending machine even better

[rich bronze]

So uh

On auction, local to me

Says a lot about the state of the deck lmao

Top bid is 120 with 1 day left

At what price would sniping it be worth it

hmm

[sleek ferry]

Kinda crazy the amount of modern day cards in it

[fallow citrus]

any price is too high to buy into pioneer

[sleek ferry]

Pioneer could be saved with a banlist, I will stick to that

Every standard set SHOULD be boosting playability of lower repped decks in pioneer, but this can’t happen while a certain deck is around

[fallow citrus]

it probably could and I would be happy if it did get better with a banlist

but there isn't one yet so I just wouldn't play the format

[waxen timber]

I am trying to say that the popularity of the format matters. Like the absurd cost vintage is largely irrelevant to the average magic player because of how little it sees play

[rich bronze]

I already bought in with heroic

[fallow citrus]

fair enough

[rich bronze]

Pioneer is around the same price as ygo

It’s fine

[glad peak]

Buy the deck and sell it for parts

[golden plover]

Pioneer is fun (usually)

If they ban some stuff, it's got the healthiest competitive format

It's also the second cheapest but it's not standard so that's good

[fallow citrus]

I've seen people play it and it just seems a little like

idk

mono g exists, twiddle storm exists, lotus field anything really

[rigid scarab]

Ixalan reveals?

[sudden lava]

Next tuesday

[lusty trench]

We do know who the planes walker is this set

[last glen]

Looks like they dropped seven stories today

https://www.tumblr.com/markrosewater/731717490314461184/maros-teaser-for-the-lost-caverns-of-ixalan

[trail anvil]

aura card
pacifism maybe? or would that be too fucked for draft

When there are 1,000 or more time counters on CARDNAME, sacrifice it and each opponent loses 1,000 life.
now that's a fuckin mythic

[glad peak]

We had a set with multiple aura removal options very recently and it was still bomb centric so I wouldn’t say pacifism is that fucked

1000 or more time counters

[stark skiff]

holy crap why is gishath so expensive lol

[meager isle]

That’s every tcg

[meager isle]

Drop in the bucket for you

[stark skiff]

eh im more looking at the foil one lol

[meager isle]

Doesn’t change my statement

[rigid scarab]

Creature - Capybara

@sudden lava

[trail anvil]

honestly if it's just 1 white pip I think it's bo1 playable, so that would be interesting

then again not being able to remove a thalia is probably a liability 🤔

[waxen timber]

I think the aura will be Blanchwood Armor

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/capy-capybara-capy-blappies-cute-capy-baby-gif-26656430

Psychic paper can now call capybaras as the creature type

"Yes I am Nicole Bolas the capybara"

[fallow citrus]

https://vxtwitter.com/THEBENWA/status/1715196560848650638?t=WcDhVyiw80cB8xR9YdQeXA&s=19

[twilit canyon]

lmao

[glad peak]

Would’ve been funnier if it was phantasmagoria or stinkweed imp lol

[polar lake]

Pauper tho

[fallow citrus]

what about pauper

[glad peak]

Etali in pauper let’s gooo

Actually I have no idea what that was reference to, I don’t think etali’s in pauper but I’m too lazy to check

[twilit canyon]

there are no legendary creatures in pauper

[glad peak]

Etali would be a good first choice

[trail anvil]

there isn't an isamaru in common?

[golden plover]

Chandler, Joven, The Prismatic Piper, Barktooth Warbeard, Jedit, Lady Orca, Ramirez DePietro, The Lady of the Mountain

I probably missed a few

[clever sun]

There are twelve

None of them are playable whatsoever

[golden plover]

Hey don't be mean to my boy Chandler

I love paying 8 mana to destroy an artifact

Oh wait artifact creature

[copper pecan]

everyone talks about uncle istvan but nobody talks about [[nial sylvaine]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “nial sylvaine”

[copper pecan]

[[niall silvain]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/drk/82/niall-silvain

Niall Silvain <:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Ouphe
, : Regenerate target creature.
This is his domain, and while you remain here you must value all life as you value your own.
2/2

[copper pecan]

like who the fuck is this

[golden plover]

That's my Niall Silvain

Don't be mean to him

[glad peak]

Yeah, he regenerates things, don’t be mean to my precious boi

[twilit canyon]

niall silvain walked so mother of runes could run

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Kate-Stewart-400x559.webp

If that 1000 time counters card scales quickly and is in Jesakai colors, it would work well with this

[twilit canyon]

he kept his spark lets fucking go

[lusty trench]

Elephonte

[rich bronze]

A few hours to go and it’s still at 135

Might bid on it last minute

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dense berry]

that art looks like something you could buy at earthbound

[sudden lava]

Ok I heard the best speculation idea

for the capybara card(s)

[fallow citrus]

or this could be where they introduce squad into non-commander products ig

[sudden lava]

capy squad

[fallow citrus]

love losing to bad combo decks on the ladder because I draw 3 adeline in a row

[trail anvil]

when they have everything, but you have everything-er

I think I drew a crazy amount of board wipes this game

[polar lake]

oh i was responding to an earlier conversation about how expensive formats are and yugioh is

[last glen]

smh can you not get the bonus XP from the IHOP event if you already have an IHOP rewards account

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/507388259165536263/1165480358846922893/SPOILER_95AF7A4F-86F5-41BB-B22D-5E4F5099A517.jpg?ex=6547012b&is=65348c2b&hm=7e86dfb37259a3339d34cbc7b1e6a983eab447cf7492d50fcd1eeda1a55d7aca&=&width=667&height=662

[barren cairn]

Thinking of making my casual edh decks I play in the pod a little more passive but I know it comes from a salty place

[polar lake]

thoughts?

[zinc shard]

[[Molten Vortex]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ori/156/molten-vortex

Molten Vortex <:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
, Discard a land card: Molten Vortex deals 2 damage to any target.
If you can't take the heat . . . well, that's going to be a problem.

[zinc shard]

[[Magmatic Insight]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ori/155/magmatic-insight

Magmatic Insight <:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, discard a land card.
Draw two cards.
Chief among the tenets of Purphoros is that one must destroy in order to create.

[zinc shard]

Seems a bit slow

[fallow citrus]

ouch loam isn't pioneer legal

would have been the best include in there

[polar lake]

loam?

also this deck isnt about winning

its about sending a message

[fallow citrus]

[[life from the loam]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/uma/172/life-from-the-loam

Life from the Loam <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Return up to three target land cards from your graveyard to your hand.
Dredge 3 (If you would draw a card, you may mill three cards instead. If you do, return this card from your graveyard to your hand.)

[polar lake]

ahh

smack [[lightning storm]] in and call it a modern deck

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/csp/89/lightning-storm

Lightning Storm <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Lightning Storm deals X damage to any target, where X is 3 plus the number of charge counters on Lightning Storm.
Discard a land card: Put two charge counters on Lightning Storm. You may choose a new target for it. Any player may activate this ability but only if Lightning Storm is on the stack.

[zinc shard]

This feels like someone wanted to play Treasure Hunt but it wasnt legal in Pioneer

[rigid scarab]

I find it funny how a lot of anti-play boosters are kinda just advocating for a casual universal price drop

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/Esnyke_G8fg

[stark skiff]

Picked these foils up today

[sudden lava]

only a few days till Ixalan

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-animal-animal-bath-hot-bath-capybara-bath-gif-12438114855270993077

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-dinosaurs-t-rex-tyrannosaurus-rex-roar-gif-27599760

[trail anvil]

pog ozolith

I'm still hoping that double sided god theme is gonna be a cycle, it'll be cool to see other colors

[copper pecan]

i'd be pretty surprised if it isn't a cycle

[lusty trench]

It'd be cool if they were a cycle of replacement effects

[sudden lava]

I hope we get plenty of capybara cards, and that the 1000 time counters card isnt locked out of red+blue+any other color decks

[twilit canyon]

yall im kinda cooking with this one

simic charm is kind of ass but its not been too bad

[glad peak]

Green probably being when you put a +1/+1 counter on something, put x +1/+1 counters, where x is the god’s power

[twilit canyon]

okay now this is actually cooking

this deck has felt significantly better than i expected it to

[twilit canyon]

rakdos cooked

or got cooked

[clever sun]

Jewel Mine Overseer is so good

[polar lake]

im nust missing the 10th doctor and the war doctor

trying to get the actors of each incarnation (except for 1 - War Doctor, RIP to those legends) to sign their cards

ooh i should get the 9 - 13 companions too

[lusty trench]

Don't you need the other masters too?

[polar lake]

yeah

theres 2 other ones right?

or i think its 3?

[lusty trench]

I think there's 4

Multiplied, mesmerist, formed anew, gallifreys end

[stark skiff]

Nice. Not getting the other version?

[polar lake]

other versions?

[stark skiff]

With the different artwork

[polar lake]

nah

just one of each for a commander deck

[meager isle]

I bet you are

[stark skiff]

i bought other stuff today

[stark skiff]

Got these foils today @meager isle @rigid scarab

Messed up and didn’t get the textured foil Sheoldred though

[rigid scarab]

Kid...

[stark skiff]

i know i messed up papa

i mentioned it

[rigid scarab]

Why do you have a jillion moneydollars

[modern minnow]

suspiciously wealthy furries vs suspiciously wealthy magic players

[stark skiff]

[meager isle]

Wow you didn’t buy my esper sentinel

[sleek ferry]

You got an esper sentinel?

[meager isle]

I’ll probably sell it but I’ve been lazy

But yes I got one

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ww5wA6pBa4

All 4 decks will be revealed Nov. 1st

[rich bronze]

I can’t justify buying a play set of Shelly rn tbh… that card will drop like a rock eventually

The only cards I’m comfortable spending north of 30-40 on are RL…

[rich bronze]

A local teenager has a play set of P9

That is, one of each

but still

[zinc shard]

Hints:

1. There is a one mana creature that taps for 3 mana
   2.There is a card with bote populate and proliferate
2. There is a colorshifted version of a popular commander card from last Ixalan block
3. There is a card with the ability: "Whenever you cast a noncreature spell you don't own..."
4. There is a card called "The Indomitable"
5. There is a dinosaur with the exact same name as its creatue type
6. There is a legend that puts flood counters on permanents
7. There is a card that counts devotion to white and black
8. There is a legend with the type "Human Fungus Pirate"
9. There is a card names Skeleton Crew
10. There is a card with an ability that contains: "Treasure you control are ___ in adition to their other types"
11. There are a ton of returning mechanics including: Coven, Persist, Proliferate, Retrace and... a new card with Partner!

[rich bronze]

retrace

Oh god

[zinc shard]

Axolotl serpent pog

[rich bronze]

Also I have a challenge

Explain Throes of Chaos to a hypothetical ygo player

that knows nothing about magic

[zinc shard]

[[Throes of Chaos]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/afc/146/throes-of-chaos

Throes of Chaos <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Cascade (When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom of your library in a random order.)
Retrace (You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs.)

[polar lake]

is it just me or is MTG is just turning into Hasbro's Weiss Schwarz

[rich bronze]

Unfortunately yes

[lusty trench]

Colour shifted popular card from ixalan...

Revel in riches?

[rich bronze]

But blue

[sudden lava]

that axolotl serpent is this

[zinc shard]

I'm predicting it's Zacama

[lusty trench]

They're not from the ixalan set, they're in rivals

[sudden lava]

https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1716484834241999104

Magic: The Gathering (@wizards_magic)

Our newest Team-up is here!

Magic's Universes Beyond is collaborating with @Marvel!

https://t.co/20ooUfPJfC

#MTGxMarvel

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[rigid scarab]

Oh boy

[rigid scarab]

Etali?

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-gif-18270614

you ready for izzet ironman?

and Jesakai Captain America

[zinc shard]

Etali's dead

[golden plover]

Man theres so many UBs now

[rigid scarab]

What if he's revived and colourshifted to black

Also its a commander card not creature

Its probably not a creature

[rigid scarab]

Honestly getting

A bit sick of it

In the Fortnite to Smash Bros scale

Im definitely leaning more towards the Fortnite side

[golden plover]

It's getting really hard to not go "oh the game is becoming Weiss Schwartz/Smash Up"

Because it's getting 2-3 major UB sets a year now

[rigid scarab]

I mean this year alone we're getting LOTR, Doctor Who and Jurassic Park

[golden plover]

So in 2024 alone, not counting SLs we don't know about yet, we have:
-Final Fantasy
-Assassin's Creed
-Marvel
-Fallout?

[rigid scarab]

Next year is Fallout and Assasin's Creed

And FF

[golden plover]

That's 4 UB sets

That's excluding stuff like any small sls like evil dead

[rigid scarab]

Like it's really great and all that the cards themselves have great flavour and do look like they have heart put into them

But it still reeks of corporate greed

[golden plover]

It's 100% super corporate greed at this point

Honestly from the start, I don't think there were a ton of people going "stranger things and walking Dead are PERFECT for the MTG setting"

[rigid scarab]

Like UB is 100% a cashgrab from the start

Not even UB superfans deny that

But you can still make passion out of corporate greed

Still doesn't make it no longer greed

[lusty trench]

You forgot transformers and mlp

[rigid scarab]

Transformers was last year

[golden plover]

Also Evil Dead, Princess Bride, and Creepshow

[rigid scarab]

And MLP is at least silver border

Silver border imo is perfect for UB product

[golden plover]

They were SLs and reskins, but all of them have the UB stamp

[rigid scarab]

You can go as wild as you want to make the cards as flavourful as possible

While also keeping them out of black border formats for people who care about that

Silver border cards would probably be able to make it to commander tables anyways

[golden plover]

Marvel really goes to show "oh we'll sell out for any ip" tho

And its also showing how these are all one sided

[barren cairn]

Wait I didn't see the marvel one

[golden plover]

Hell, we got Fortnite and they didn't put a Jace or Ajani skin in Fortnite

The only times the other brand promotes magic is when it's stuff like Hot Pockets or IHOP

[barren cairn]

Also surprised we haven't gotten an MMPR Universes Beyond yet

[golden plover]

MMPR?

[barren cairn]

Power Rangers (exclusively Mighty Morphing)

[golden plover]

Oh maybe

[rigid scarab]

That's not my point

[barren cairn]

They wouldn't put any other series in it anyways

[golden plover]

We'd probably get it as a Lair soon

[barren cairn]

MMPR is the only power rangers that exists

[golden plover]

I mean it's a point in this too but fair

[barren cairn]

According to Hasbro

[golden plover]

I think the thing is that they don't actually really intend these to being people into magic imo

They're mostly just designed to get collectors of the other IP to buy the cards

[barren cairn]

Okay so what I imagine happens is mechtitan core being reprinted as an art of the megazord and then the MMPR rangers are in a secret lair

Okay but

If Spider-Man doesn't have Menace as a keyword that'll be a flavor fail

[rich bronze]

Instant, (8)

Affinity for artifacts

As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice an artifact.

Buyback - sacrifice two artifacts.

Cascade

How degenerate would this be

[rigid scarab]

They'll make a Jameson card that does that

[barren cairn]

I do not know what colors Spidey will be in

Prolly izzet lol

[golden plover]

Oh the marvel one isn't just one set like the others

It's multiple sets

[barren cairn]

Oh

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/wanda-magic-power-gif-10224696

Hoping for her

[golden plover]

So 4 sets was wrong. We're getting at least 4 UB sets next year

More likely one marvel set next year and at least one the year after

[polar lake]

wotc plz

[lusty trench]

Marvel is 2025 apparently

[golden plover]

Oh gotcha

So AC, FF, Fallout and whatever else for next year

Marvel multiple sets in 2025

[hidden ermine]

Oh my god I just realised

Depending on the characters we get

We can have a Mahvel game in Magic

Baby

Also Iron Man better have at least 1 card that lets you go infinite

[lusty trench]

Card titled "lemme show you how to"

[trail anvil]

dang they really came to another game after releasing marvel snap

[golden plover]

I mean it's like the arcane cards

Technically there's no competition in digital only/physical

[hidden ermine]

First ever card to include a swear in the rules text

[rich bronze]

Guys I thought of a puzzle

“I played playing a game of magic with an adjusted rule set: every card had its mana cost adjusted, with all coloured pips being replaced with ones of a given colour.

On turn one, on the play, I played a land and cast all but one card of a certain cycle, all targeting myself if possible. The net result of all of these actions was a tapped land on the board, four cards in my graveyard and five in my hand. What’s the remaining card of the cycle?”

[twilit canyon]

its mahvel baby

[twilit canyon]

it would be a huge miss if there isnt

[hidden ermine]

Yep

But it depends on if there is an FGC nerd working at WotC tbh

[twilit canyon]

we got the street fighter lair so

bound to be

[hidden ermine]

Id argue the SF2 cast is a bit more mainstream than the infinite tbh?

[twilit canyon]

mvc2 is a classic though

[hidden ermine]

True

[golden plover]

https://www.jasonrainville.com/post/admiral-brass-unsinkable

I'm glad Jason Rainville got to paint Beckett again

She's based on his real life mom and this is the first time she's been in art since she passed

[lusty trench]

I just like her because older woman in charge of a pirate crew is an underused trope

[hidden ermine]

Battle grandmas are sick

[golden plover]

That too. Also all of her crew in this one are based on his family

[lusty trench]

Aww

[golden plover]

Really sweet tribute to his mom

That's him, his brother and uncles

And his aunt and sister

And apparently for the box art, Lie Setiawan asked for photos of his mom too

So this one is based on a real image

[zinc shard]

Wouldn't be surprised if "The Indomitable" was the name of her ship

[sudden lava]

My guess for "A dinosaur with the exact same name as its creature type" is Dinosaur Capybara

or Capybara dinosaur

[stark skiff]

when do we get the decklists of the commander decks usually? dino one and pirate one sound interesting lol

[lusty trench]

Fungus dinosaur is my guess

[lusty trench]

Nov 1st for all

[golden plover]

Yeah it's definitely this

"Fungus Dinosaur" or "Dinosaur Fungus"

[stark skiff]

ty

[sudden lava]

Nov 1st for all for this set of commander decks

[fallow citrus]

I should have won this ages ago but something about never losing is just fun

[golden plover]

Oh...AC is modern legal

"Tap New York City to counter your grief"

It's also 80 cards aftermath style

[sudden lava]

58 minutes!

[last glen]

Descend
Rewards for permanents in GY

[last glen]

Discover cascade but related to text on the card, not mana cost of card

[rigid scarab]

Target permanent becomes a copy of target spell?????

Hello?

Map tokens aren't what we thought

But makes sense nonetheless

[last glen]

what are map tokens

[rigid scarab]

It pays one and sacs it to have target creature explore

[fallow citrus]

oh very good one drop

[fallow citrus]

not sure how I feel about craft

and unless I'm missing something discover is just boneless cascade

[zinc shard]

It lets you add the card to your hand if you dont wanna cast it

[fallow citrus]

ig it makes cascading into a counterspell not suck

[zinc shard]

Each land enters tapped, adds a certain color, and can pay tap 4 and that color and sacrifice themselves to Discover 4

Also new land type: Cave

Commander Cards up next

[rigid scarab]

Holy shit

Gishath seeing competition for the command zone????

[lusty trench]

CASCADE DINOS

[rigid scarab]

That borderless gishath does look good

A bit of a shame that my XLN print is gonna go down in price but

I wasn't selling it anyways

[lusty trench]

Wait gisath reprint?

[rigid scarab]

Yessir

Right now he's at $45USD

Expect it to go way down

[lusty trench]

Is it in the decks or a part of that border less reprint thing

[rigid scarab]

No clue

But it's in standard

[lusty trench]

Do we have like the card or just the art

[rigid scarab]

The card