Magic the Gathering

[fallow citrus]

seems standard playable

at worst it's black shock at best it's thoughtseize in standard

[golden plover]

That's 1 mana?

Wack

[lusty trench]

Pauper playable

Me when I angler off of this in my grave

[atomic harness]

that's really good for one B

[waxen timber]

Hopeless seems really good with bargain

[atomic harness]

Yee since it fixes your draws too

[lusty trench]

Turn one hopeless nightmare, turn 4 for the new tutor sac it to search sheoldred?

Seems pretty good

[trail anvil]

that card is nuts

https://i.redd.it/woe-back-for-seconds-v0-eem00714wvib1.png?s=142bdd4f8f3736d7a7d9728de1227f464e1dab71

casually return sheoldred to your field

[twilit canyon]

its not

its barely cheating on mana

requires a spare body

its mid

[zinc shard]

Bloodtithe Harvester

I'm sure there's plenty of cards that incidentally make a token in black

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F31BXsbXoAAUzII?format=jpg&name=medium

mono red burn commander

[clever sun]

That's not the issue

The card itself provides little value

It's marginally better than using a two mana dork to accelerate towards Sheoldred early anyways

and it requires more set up

Since you need two creatures in the graveyard

[trail anvil]

I've never seen this card before, that's kinda funny

but also probably terrible lmao

[fallow citrus]

just show and tell it in :^)

[trail anvil]

also this feels like an almost direct upgrade to [[snakeskin veil]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/323/snakeskin-veil

Snakeskin Veil <:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. It gains hexproof until end of turn.
"Does a serpent roar and chase its prey? No. A serpent waits silently for oblivious prey to draw near."

[trail anvil]

there are some upsides to counters but that ward is real nice

[clever sun]

Ward One in the future but can't proliferate the counter and is susceptible to losing the aura itself

Still sounds strong

[golden plover]

Man the WOT sheet has like 2 misses

Crazy how it's a better CMM than CMM

[lusty trench]

Is that all of it?

If not don't jinx it

[golden plover]

We've got a few uncommons left iirc

[lusty trench]

Damn wow

[golden plover]

But we've hit all the rares and mythics iirc

But it's by far the most stacked bonus sheet

[lusty trench]

Doubling season to the pits

[golden plover]

Doubling Season, and [[Parallel Lives]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/isd/199/parallel-lives

Parallel Lives <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
If an effect would create one or more tokens under your control, it creates twice that many of those tokens instead.
"There will come a time when the only prey left will be each other." —Ulrich of Krallenhorde Pack

[golden plover]

They finally had the technology to reprint it

Card was literally $80 for no reason before the reprint was revealed

[lusty trench]

Too bad the anime art is ass

[golden plover]

Yeah true. But at least the other art is good

And it tanked the original print to $50

[lusty trench]

Tbh most of the anime arts are ass

It's mostly just "guy standing"

With the posing being awkward

[golden plover]

Yeah I also just don't really see why the set got anime arts???

[fallow citrus]

oh is it this conversation again

idk there are anime arts in this set because it clearly sells

[golden plover]

I mean yeah, that's the obvious reason

But why eldraine

[fallow citrus]

because they sell

people want them, people buy them, there's a clear demand that's enough for people to want them

plus it's a whole new paint of coat for older cards that are going to be exposed to new players

like a brand new player coming from x game might not care that yawg will has an old art

but the new anime art? man they dig that one

obvs just an example

[lusty trench]

I don't mind them

It's just I wish they were better

[golden plover]

I just kinda don't see why they're in the European fantasy set of all places

[twilit canyon]

anime sells

regardless of setting

[granite badge]

I'm not super fond of the anime arts but most of them are fine

I'd rather have more options for art choice then less

[granite badge]

this is such a flavor win tbh

probably one of my favs out of spoiler season so far

[trail anvil]

ye it's an old card but it's fun flavor

[zinc shard]

Guys I found them!

They Mulliganed to 5 and conceded. At least they live up to their name.

[twilit canyon]

this is missing a lot of decks

[rigid scarab]

Wow

A LOT of EDH stories I find to be just self-validation

"I did a thing and my opponents reacted like this. Am I in the wrong?"

Story clearly constructed to put the opposition in the worst light possible

"What's y'alls thoughts?"

[zinc shard]

it's a meme

[modern minnow]

Everyone i play against in commander who beats me is ontologically evil

[rigid scarab]

Akin to "I beat everyone with a high power deck, but they were really mean about it!"

Ignores them being an asshole the whole game

[glad peak]

anyone playing edh is mean always :^)

^sub edh to literally any game and you have the truth to how it feels to play any game

[rich bronze]

One of the coolest alters I’ve seen

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/n4wrtee351jb1.jpg?auto=webp&s=0be69723eeca588812214890a464ae4410b00dfa

This is really good for standard aggro right?

[[Doomed Traveler]] saw play every standard it was in

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/9/doomed-traveler

Doomed Traveler <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Soldier
When Doomed Traveler dies, create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
He vowed he would never rest until he reached his destination. He doesn't know how right he was.
1/1

[golden plover]

And this is a way better doomed Traveler

Well the token is worse, but the upfront body is better

Also that flavor text sucks

[trail anvil]

I like it

also I think it's a sidegrade

it has haste but the token doesn't have evasion which is very notable

[golden plover]

It's not [[Ancient Grudge |ISD]] bad but it's not good either

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/isd/127/ancient-grudge

Ancient Grudge <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Destroy target artifact.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
If there's anything a werewolf hates, it's a collar—especially Avacyn's Collar, the symbol of her church.

[golden plover]

And yeah, the token is much worse than Doomed Traveler's flier

But the upfront body having haste is a lot better

It's a side grade for sure, but it's probably a standard playable side grade

Unless we're at the point where doomed traveler wouldn't see constructed play next time he's in standard

[trail anvil]

I mean she elaborates on bricks being something rats don't eat, but she's probably doing so out of exasperation

which actually makes sense

[golden plover]

She's also wrong there tho lmao

Rats can totally eat through bricks to get to food

[trail anvil]

I'll take your word for it fam but I think she means they're not good food

[golden plover]

Yeah but there's food in the storehouse

It's honestly crazy how motivated rats can be to get to food irl

[trail anvil]

my dude she's saying that's a warehouse full of bricks, as in a construction material warehouse

the warehouse itself is full of bricks

[golden plover]

Ohh yeah I guess they don't need to eat that then

[copper pecan]

avacyn's bricks, the construction material of her church

[sudden lava]

rat tribal is eating good this expansion

[pulsar talon]

is it supposed to look like this?

[copper pecan]

i don't think so

[pulsar talon]

any reason to not open up my packs?

[sudden lava]

||I wonder if we will get an otter for all color combinations with blue as an adventure considering the spoilered Elusive Otter||

[last glen]

If they're eating bricks I don't know if that's "eating good"

[glad peak]

Bricks are the building blocks ||to a good breakfast||

[sudden lava]

are we expecting reveals at magiccon las vegas?

oh yeah seems we are

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YOWgMBxs33A?feature=share

[storm elbow]

https://twitter.com/tirentu/status/1692710722327699868?s=20

daniel (@tirentu)

which way western man

Likes

264

Twitter · Aug 19, 2023, 1:30 AM

[twilit canyon]

slam t1 oko its just stronger

[golden plover]

Speaking of Oko, which of his colors do you think his son is gonna get?

[fallow citrus]

isn't his son the boros equipment guy

[hidden ermine]

Yep

[fallow citrus]

so unless he gets a third colour later, the answer is none

[twilit canyon]

yea im pretty sure thats just confirmed to be boros

[golden plover]

Yeah, I meant down the line since he's a new main character

[clever sun]

Wait I'm lost

When did he become the main character?

[golden plover]

Not the main, but he's very much going to be a main one going forward

[hidden ermine]

He is already confirmed to be important for Thunder Junction iirc

[golden plover]

Yup

[copper pecan]

yeah it'd be super weird for him to not be important given his role in the story so far

[trail anvil]

do we know his mom

[copper pecan]

just some random lady who isn't important

[trail anvil]

she managed to snag the hottest guy on the plane tho

[waxen timber]

The mom I think used to be a witch or something

[golden plover]

I still refuse to believe Oki isn't gay

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F376vSpXsAE5-Rc?format=jpg&name=small

oh I get it now

deal 2 is red (too hot), tap is blue (too cold), and 3 is just regular food ability (Just right)

cute

[pulsar talon]

Hmmmm

Porridge

[rigid scarab]

That's not porridge that's just white rice

With strawberries?

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Belligerent-of-the-Ball-400x559.jpg

Ogre at cinderella's ball

[fallow citrus]

this thread is just comedy

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/15w1qpg/i_am_begging_you_to_run_sideboard_cards_against/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

[glad peak]

Eh scam is annoying and very very good but broken? Not really

[trail anvil]

https://i.redd.it/woe-a-tale-for-the-ages-preview-v0-z1wnr3d1iajb1.jpg?s=fa426b9aefd6a16f8d430c2a2fcc85dec4741775

this looks potentially spooky with roles

[golden plover]

https://www.tumblr.com/markrosewater/726189296737009664/players-liking-battles-doesnt-mean-they-go-into?source=share

Very strange blogatog response

"not every card type needs to be evergreen"

Then why make them a new card type???

[twilit canyon]

the top comment lmfso

[sudden lava]

I wonder if we will get Jenny (The Doctor's daughter) in the precons

[copper pecan]

how else would you do this mechanic

i don't understand why you think this is weird

just because it's a new card type doesn't mean it needs to be in every set

[golden plover]

I dunno, it's just weird to have a card type that's not used every set

[copper pecan]

tribal wasn't in every set back when that was a thing

[golden plover]

Yeah but tribal wasn't really a card type in the same sense

It was more of a supertype

[copper pecan]

if they had to use this in every set they probably just wouldn't make the mechanic at all since that's a lot to commit to

[golden plover]

Yeah true. I just think it's sorta weird since I feel like card types for magic come with the expectation they're used every set

You wouldn't have a set without artifacts

[twilit canyon]

didnt see this one till now

really decent rate

[copper pecan]

ye that seems great

[rich bronze]

Meh

This honestly seems really promising

Tho

I’m 100% playing mardu burn

[twilit canyon]

2 mana -1/-1 can catch a surprising amount of stuff and then it becomes a 2 mana 2/2 that boosts by 2 its a lot of abilities in 1 card. probably solid in standard

[rich bronze]

Standard sure

But who plays that

[twilit canyon]

oh yeah this is super solid

[rich bronze]

Best shock ever

[twilit canyon]

a lot of ppl. especially for worlds prep

[rich bronze]

Better than PwF

[twilit canyon]

what was that one card

[[vicious rumors]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/grn/89/vicious-rumors

Vicious Rumors <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Vicious Rumors deals 1 damage to each opponent. Each opponent discards a card, then mills a card. You gain 1 life.
"The alliances were already frayed. All we do is find the loose threads and pluck." —Lazav

[twilit canyon]

almost a strict upgrade

[rich bronze]

I mean not that relevant since you know that sucks

but

Burn is okay with running a few shocks

[twilit canyon]

outside of modern yeah

[rich bronze]

Because, simply put, 3x6+2=20

[rich bronze]

In modern

[twilit canyon]

ehhh

[rich bronze]

Burn discord is all over it

Half of us are running PwF anyway

[twilit canyon]

im not sold on running black for a deal 2 discard 1 entirely

[rich bronze]

this is just better than PwF

[rich bronze]

Also we like [[bump in the night]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ddk/57/bump-in-the-night

Bump in the Night <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Target opponent loses 3 life.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
It's not just the wind. It's not all in your head. And it's definitely something to worry about.

[twilit canyon]

in burn yeah. hm i mean.

oh no yeah bump is for sure if ur in mardu or rakdos

[rich bronze]

Spike with a small upside

That comes up sometimes

[twilit canyon]

im just thinking about deck space for this one

[lusty trench]

Also you can sac it to the bargain cost of the 4 mana tutor if that's relevant

[twilit canyon]

it is not

[lusty trench]

[twilit canyon]

burn wont run that tutor

[rich bronze]

We’re talking about modern burn

Which is about as streamlined

[lusty trench]

Oh burn ignore me

[rich bronze]

As a deck can get

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Harried-Spearguard-400x559.webp

low key I like this

[rich bronze]

My current burn list costs 700 bucks

[sudden lava]

Simple hasty body

[rich bronze]

because I’m on 2 monkeys and 4 chalices

[twilit canyon]

the only 4 mana spell i have ran in burn and actually cast (orvar doesnt count) is a single wandering emperor when i forgot an exquisite firecraft in the side and i had no time to find anything else

[rich bronze]

since 10 1 mana creatures is where I wanna be if we’re off eidolon

Also doing well with 5C creativity rn

People ditched orvar

Feels good

[twilit canyon]

i like sitting on 9 without eidolon

[rich bronze]

Monkey?

[twilit canyon]

1 of

[rich bronze]

mhm

[twilit canyon]

i toyed with 3 guides 2 monkey

[rich bronze]

Lol

Imagine cutting guides

[twilit canyon]

yea i went back bc i have had ppl do silly things to eat or kill guides

[rich bronze]

Remember when guides were like

50 bucks

That was a moment in time for sure

[twilit canyon]

nope. i started magic in 2019

i got my guides for 5$

[rich bronze]

Same

[twilit canyon]

and swiftspears for 2

[rich bronze]

but I started earlier

[twilit canyon]

best investment ive made in magic besides my bolts

[rich bronze]

I’m avoiding buying obm

For 50

Since it’ll inevitably be a $20 rare

[twilit canyon]

yea idt that card will be long for this modern format too

it depends

tbh itd be really solid in a mardu/rakdos burn list hm

[rich bronze]

Eh no

Not where we wanna be

My MH3 wishlist

Is busted colour soup options

And also PoP

[twilit canyon]

price of progress isnt happening in modern

it should

but it wont

[rich bronze]

No

Right now it shouldn’t

4c 5c too weak to handle it

Make colour soup a lot stronger

[twilit canyon]

also i think obm is great in the side

[rich bronze]

And also print pop

[twilit canyon]

especially in rakdos

what else are u filling up the side slots with?

[rich bronze]

4 chalices

[twilit canyon]

fuck. i mean

sure

but i think we can probably do better or more optimized.

bowmasters can wreck face against draw heavy decks. its a lot of burn

[rich bronze]

Ah man

When chalice is $70

[twilit canyon]

out of stock

[rich bronze]

And out of stock on CK

[twilit canyon]

i dont have a chalice playset too

[rich bronze]

You know something is wrong

[twilit canyon]

i have been waiting

chalice good

[rich bronze]

Got this a month ago!

[twilit canyon]

i only have 2 chalice since often times i only ever play em in decks where 2 of chalice is good enough

[rich bronze]

Aye

Chalice and Sheol and probably the two most weirdly expensive cards

[twilit canyon]

its one of those cards that im like "its good to have the playset" but i havent justified the purchase of it yet

[rich bronze]

Also cavern

[twilit canyon]

cavern is so fucking weird

decks where its good havent been relevant in a while

and yet

infinite money

[rich bronze]

Why the fuck is it 50

Honestly

Edh

[twilit canyon]

nah cant be

[rich bronze]

It’s a powerhouse

[twilit canyon]

itd be a 1 of there

[rich bronze]

Explain sheoldred

[twilit canyon]

standard

and pioneer

[rich bronze]

It’s a mythic from an in print standard set

it shouldn’t be 80

[twilit canyon]

also in modern it sees play bc ppl still copying jake's decklist that won and he played 2 in the side of scam

not that i didnt see 1 or 2 of in the side sometimes main in scam before that but it really ramped up in popularity after that

[rich bronze]

It sucks in scam

[twilit canyon]

im not a fan of it in scam yes

every time i play against it in scam im like

thank god

they tapped out for shelly

both when playing burn and murktide

[rich bronze]

What decks do you hate playing against

The most

[twilit canyon]

honestly i dont particularly hate playing vs anything in modern rn

[rich bronze]

Scam for me

[twilit canyon]

i am annoyed by decks doing ring shenanigans since they are usually kinda shit but they can sometimes sack you

like dimir control or 4/5c control lists on ring + minamo

[rich bronze]

Also I love playing against omnath

Tbh

[twilit canyon]

they are usually not great decks

and if they dont run into enough ring copies and minamo they kinda fall over into themselves

[rich bronze]

Meh

They fold to 2 archons

[twilit canyon]

but sometimes they do draw enough ring copies

no yeah

thats what im saying

they usually suck

but sometimes they draw multiple rings + minamo and they bury u in cards

which feels bad to me cus its losing to an otherwise bad deck

[rich bronze]

I love spell piercing rings

Or binding them

[twilit canyon]

ye

ive been force of negation on murktide with subtlety and its also satisfying to hit the ring with it

[rich bronze]

Murk plays 1 FoN Mb

[twilit canyon]

yea

[rich bronze]

Sometimes 1 sb

[twilit canyon]

that 1 of fon

[rich bronze]

You on more?

[twilit canyon]

1 of side

nope

just 2

1 main 1 side

and 2 subtlety main

1 side

feels like i can get away with shit thanks to preordain

[rich bronze]

Yeah preordain

Is honestly a big upgrade

I wonder if 5CC wants to be on it

Some people are on it

But idk yet

In a non bowmaster meta

For sure

[golden plover]

@lusty trench lmao I just saw Astarion's alt art for the first time

[lusty trench]

What the fuck

[golden plover]

This man is NOT Astarion

[lusty trench]

That's the crimson chin

Tf

[golden plover]

Halsin is super off too

[lusty trench]

Twink halsin

[golden plover]

Honestly Karlach's main art is really off

Her alt art is at least sorta closer

But neither are that good at capturing her

Gale's is weird too

Lae'zel is the most consistently correct

Then Shadowheart and Wyll

[granite badge]

wait how

the way you talk makes it sound like you've been playing for decades

I've been playing since Core Set 2019

[lusty trench]

Ive been playing since 2015 and I'm still dumb af

[twilit canyon]

i was taught by ppl who have been playing for a decade or 2

[hidden ermine]

Theres not that much historical context thats important for the timeframe, you can learn stuff relatively quickly

[fallow citrus]

yeah if you just learn from people who are very experienced it rubs off on you

[lusty trench]

I learnt from casual edh players

[fallow citrus]

unfortunate

[sudden lava]

wait, there is cards that straight up kill the opponent if you pick feed

was scrolled up

https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/6/361912f4-5205-44a5-b21e-17402526c1fd.jpg?1562605049

if they were at say 40, then they lost 20 life

and then feed takes the other half

[granite badge]

mood

that's the only thing the folks at the hs lunch table would play

[hidden ermine]

Thats how most people get into paper magic nowadays

Other formats are either too expensive or unpopular

And draft/limited is a specific niche tbh

[pulsar talon]

just to know

is eldrazi legal in standard?

[sudden lava]

which eldrazzi?

[pulsar talon]

any

[golden plover]

Nope

[sudden lava]

yeah pretty sure none are in rotation

outside of like changelings

[waxen timber]

I don't think any changelings are even in standard cause I think the last standard set that had that was Kaldheim

[pulsar talon]

Is kethek, crucible goliath any good?

[twilit canyon]

[[kethek crucible goliath]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/one/206/kethek-crucible-goliath

Kethek, Crucible Goliath <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Beast
At the beginning of your end step, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a nonlegendary creature card with lesser mana value, put it onto the battlefield, then put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
4/4

[twilit canyon]

not particularly. not bad but not good

[pulsar talon]

I see

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Solitary-Sanctuary-400x559.webp

[rich bronze]

What formats do you play

I know people who started playing in 2020

And are better than 99.9% of players I know

[rich bronze]

I learned by jumping straight into every modern event ( the first format I played ) and going 0-x until I stopped sucking

[granite badge]

just edh and draft and infrequently at that

[rich bronze]

There it is

edh is a board game

And draft varies a lot

Play a 60 card format and learn the meta

[trail anvil]

https://i.redd.it/woe-up-the-beanstalk-v0-ty1pcm0g6hjb1.jpg?s=f37ea1acc57ebdf6fe197a77f77eed0c01ed6e71

this card is actually so nice for monogreen in hbrawl

ETB draw at 2 mana slaps

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Freeze-in-Place-400x559.webp

a new sorcery for Elsa.dek

[lusty trench]

All 5 imoti players are struggling to find cuts

[trail anvil]

5
bruh this is one of the most popular commanders

[sudden lava]

https://twitter.com/CoolStuffInc/status/1693633664112889868

CoolStuffInc (@CoolStuffInc)

I found this stray cat outside. Can we keep him?

Likes

214

Twitter · Aug 21, 2023, 2:38 PM

[glad peak]

Up the beanstalk is interesting due to working with some of the best evoke elementals and leyline binding

[trail anvil]

bruh they give you all access no banlist and you decide to do fuckin trickery?

[twilit canyon]

im gonna be playing an izzet tempo list with brainstorm ragavan counterspell bolts and drc

[trail anvil]

see now that sounds fun

[glad peak]

You’re in blue so might as well add oko and uro too

[twilit canyon]

nah not strong enough for what im doing

[zinc shard]

Already got leaked but officially revealed now, this card seems nuts

[lusty trench]

If I see this card played against me in limited I'm just gonna scoop

[sudden lava]

so its 1 mana and 1 green per triplet

[twilit canyon]

time to farm

poor guy

[trail anvil]

oof channel elves?

[twilit canyon]

they aint channeling shit

this game has ended

my opponent just doesnt know it yet

[clever sun]

WHAT

I GOT SACKED BY CHANNEL BANEFIRE

Fucking hell I hate Channel

[twilit canyon]

[trail anvil]

I thought I'd see a lot more of those decks than I have so far lmao

wtf is this pile supposed to be, ik no-lands is a deck but I'm really confused what they're going for here

[fallow citrus]

isn't that just charbelcher

[trail anvil]

[[goblin charbelcher]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ddt/57/goblin-charbelcher

Goblin Charbelcher <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
, : Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a land card. Goblin Charbelcher deals damage equal to the number of nonland cards revealed this way to any target. If the revealed land card was a Mountain, Goblin Charbelcher deals double that damage instead. Put the revealed cards on the bottom of your library in any order.

[fallow citrus]

you ironcrag feat into win

[trail anvil]

ic

[twilit canyon]

lmfao

im almost 2x farther into my deck than my opponent is

[clever sun]

I give up

I'm going the Izzet way

[trail anvil]

yeah this deck is busted

[twilit canyon]

gonna try this as well

[clever sun]

Oh this is gross

I love the NBL event

[trail anvil]

I feel like there are a pretty cool amount of decks

I saw someone just run monored with lightning bolt which honestly with all these greedy decks running around sounds like a good idea

[twilit canyon]

thats worse than izzet

actually

we dont have goblin guide

so ur just losing out on the good blue tempo aggro cards

[clever sun]

Yeah it feels like

You get the whole world at your disposal and you spend it on... Mono-Red with Bolt

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Cheeky-House-Mouse-400x559.webp

smol friend

[twilit canyon]

this is really pushed lol

[lusty trench]

Savannah lions in shambles

[sudden lava]

who would win, Savannah Lions or one cheeky smol mouse

[twilit canyon]

neither. they both die

[lusty trench]

It is an unfair fight, the mouse has rabies

[twilit canyon]

and i oop

[trail anvil]

ye it's worse, was just thinking aggro in general was a good choice into all the greedy piles

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Spell-Stutter.jpg

they really trying to make faerie tribal a thing

[lusty trench]

Card made for the commander deck

[twilit canyon]

they couldnt have just reprinted [[spellstutter sprite]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mma/65/spellstutter-sprite

Spellstutter Sprite <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Faerie Wizard
Flash
Flying
When Spellstutter Sprite enters the battlefield, counter target spell with mana value X or less, where X is the number of Faeries you control.
1/1

[golden plover]

Nah that's a $4 common

Gotta save it for a secret lair/masters set

[glad peak]

Oh cool spell stutter’s interesting

(Not really)

[copper pecan]

they should reprint the smug anime girl alt art of spellstutter sprite into standard

only the smug anime girl one though

[trail anvil]

ah fuck I shouldn't have said this was fun in the post match survey lmao

[dense berry]

the anime girl stutter sprite is actually surprisingly decent art for an mtg anime work

[zinc shard]

Might be overcosted, but this seems decent?

[atomic harness]

I'm back

[lusty trench]

I think this is the first time this effect has appeared colourless isn't it?

[copper pecan]

i think so

[lusty trench]

Doubt it's good though, 4 is a mana too high for this type of effect

[fallow citrus]

4 mana claim the firstborn poggers

[atomic harness]

foundry makes it 3

[hidden ermine]

Do you mean specifically treason effect?

Because if so

Nope

We got one 18 days ago

[[Flayer of Loyalties]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/715/flayer-of-loyalties

Flayer of Loyalties <:mana8:292901508830330880><:manac:292901508943577088><:manac:292901508943577088>

Creature — Eldrazi
When you cast this spell, gain control of target creature until end of turn. Untap that creature. Until end of turn, it has base power and toughness 10/10, and gains trample, annihilator 2, and haste.
Annihilator 2 (Whenever this creature attacks, defending player sacrifices two permanents.)
Trample
10/10

[hidden ermine]

[lusty trench]

Completely forgot about flayer despite it being one of the better eldrazi

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Unruly-Catapult-400x559.jpg

deploy unruly catapult

[fallow citrus]

[[thermo alchemist]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/164/thermo-alchemist

Thermo-Alchemist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Human Shaman
Defender
: Thermo-Alchemist deals 1 damage to each opponent.
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, untap Thermo-Alchemist.
"Madness can't touch a mind ignited by genius."
0/3

[fallow citrus]

1 toughness is worth 1 mana ig

[sudden lava]

second copy of thermo-alchemist

[atomic harness]

foundry also makes it cost as much as thermo alchemist

(I dont know where I'm going with this)

[granite badge]

another card I could slot into my Rakdos edh deck as a enabler to cast him

[zinc shard]

Welp, they brought the right deck for this matchup

[rich bronze]

People play the meme format?

I mean to be fair piomeme is a joke too and explorer is piomeme lite

the only real formats are modern and legacy

[zinc shard]

I'm doin it to get missions done

[pulsar talon]

so i'm playing the 2-color starter deck matches in arena

how do i stop getting steamrolled by red/white and blue/white?

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Elusive-Otter-400x559.jpg

no longer leaked

now official

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Old-Flitterfang-400x559.jpg

rat faerie

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1020928983883325522/1134508903133085786/image.png?width=2400&height=405

oh wait, capybara is for ixalan

[zinc shard]

Commander Spoilers

[zinc shard]

Golem Tribal Commander lets go!

[glad peak]

I see wotc learned from dargo

[sudden lava]

food golem tribal

also weird implication that this turns your creatures into cookies

[trail anvil]

I feel like this is worse than the other korvold cause the other one plussed off of treasures super hard

[trail anvil]

this sounds fun but I feel like I'm not used to seeing this effect outside of black lol

[zinc shard]

Roll Credits

[glad peak]

He is straight up worse, drawing 4 is nice but treasure storm is so much more consistent and powerful

[trail anvil]

ig you run this in the other korvold?

in the 99

[lusty trench]

I feel like you could probably put this korvold in the 99 of the other korvold yeah

Cause like 3 mana 4/4 flying trample haste that gets you value if it isn't stopped is pretty decent

Wait, each card type sacrificed? Cringe

This is... Certainly a card

[trail anvil]

so a mana rock that turns into an equipment when you really need it

[twilit canyon]

this is kinda shit

[granite badge]

so a mana dork that turns into a bad equipment when a legendary etbs

flavorful but mid

[golden plover]

I think I'll try it in Roghark/Yoshimaru

And other legendary tribals but it's not great

[trail anvil]

at least in hbrawl you run this just cause it's a mana rock that has another use

maybe in equipment decks

[glad peak]

Welp it’s a 2 mana mana rock that enters untapped so it goes into all 0-1 color edh deck

[trail anvil]

https://i.redd.it/woe-collectors-vault-card-gallery-update-v0-p8da5gclfojb1.png?s=5ea976794a0d79a88b006b63a31ea22d9f2d5f1d

this one looks like it's super under costed

I'm putting this right into slogurk for sure

[trail anvil]

there it is

[[god-eternal bontu]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/war/92/god-eternal-bontu

God-Eternal Bontu <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Zombie God
Menace
When God-Eternal Bontu enters the battlefield, sacrifice any number of other permanents, then draw that many cards.
When God-Eternal Bontu dies or is put into exile from the battlefield, you may put it into its owner's library third from the top.
5/6

[trail anvil]

I feel like this one would be pretty good in certain decks

vomit your hand and use the first 2 modes, if all your advantage is in your hand you can use the last 2 modes

[lusty trench]

The louder they scrankle the harder he lankles

[trail anvil]

rankle's prankle

[[vampiric rites]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/98/vampiric-rites

Vampiric Rites <:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
, Sacrifice a creature: You gain 1 life and draw a card.
Scions of the Markov line take particular pleasure in the perversion of humans' holy rituals.

[lusty trench]

Art goes harder than that card has any rights to

[trail anvil]

sometimes the weirder cards get the better arts

Redtooth Vanguard - 1G

Creature - Elf Warrior (Uncommon)

Trample

Whenever an enchantment enters the battlefield under your control, you may pay (2). If you do, return ~ from your graveyard to your hand.

3/1

also apparently this is a cycle

[twilit canyon]

this card is really confusing to me bc its honestly kinda shit

like

why is this a rare

[trail anvil]

probably cause it's mechanically unique with the next turn deal damage part

[twilit canyon]

its the next combat phase this turn

so it has to be used mp1

or else u dont get the fight at all

but then that telegraphs ur entire play sequence

[lusty trench]

They destroy the creature you were gonna pick lmao

[twilit canyon]

it also doesnt even cheat on mana for the creature you exile to cast that turn

[trail anvil]

o misread that

idk it seems terrible into instant speed removal which is most of this format but a dig for 5 + damage doesn't sound like a bad rate for 2 mana

the more I think about it the less I think it'll be a good rare but I get why they put it as a rare

[sudden lava]

big ol mana rock

[lusty trench]

That ain't a mana rock

That's a mana boulder

[sudden lava]

it's not just a boulder, its a rock!

https://youtu.be/crJvnMooE-o

[lusty trench]

They're really waiting a while for these last two virtues to drop huh

[atomic harness]

That's pretty nice actually

[trail anvil]

that's solid value, ig you side this in vs monored?

[trail anvil]

https://i.redd.it/woe-experimental-confectioner-jumpstart-set-coll-exclusive-v0-cvva8dgt4pjb1.png?s=403f25e478a4b64556baa623d83b608695cc90c5

ratatouille reference

pog

[zinc shard]

This combos with that 6 mana demon

[trail anvil]

https://i.redd.it/cheeky-house-mouse-is-cheesed-to-meet-you-v0-2qp779qtsijb1.jpg?s=f4b1a0a40deda75b1126b58f04e518eae1d8401c

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/5fqqf8AWqPg

RAT COLONY

[zinc shard]

https://youtu.be/Au35aWNtIO4

[sudden lava]

1.75 speed go brrr

[trail anvil]

yeah that's a card that exists

[rigid scarab]

NOOOOOOOOOO

HOW COULD YOU POWERCREEP DIVINATION LIKE THAT

THE GAME IS BROKEN

[trail anvil]

literally unplayable

[sudden lava]

started as a tree, was turned into cardboard, and now its a tree again that is an insult to the tree that made it

[golden plover]

Damn I really wish he was only 1 mana

[sudden lava]

at the very least, it works with Gylwain Casting Director

[waxen timber]

Timber seems really good. Like Roles are very cheap so, he's basically a 3/3 for 2 which is playable

[lusty trench]

They're commander/legacy/vintage only

[waxen timber]

Oh, yeah then trash

[sudden lava]

Not much longer until doctor who reveals

and then Ixalan

[zinc shard]

my opponent brought all their 4 leafed clovers to this game

Update: AHHHHHH

[trail anvil]

we missed out on brawl mwm for this

[zinc shard]

https://youtu.be/-bY4zxb_U3Q

[lusty trench]

My thoughts on this deck is it's fun, and has some nice new cards for the faerie strats

It also has nice reprints

[lusty trench]

Buts it's never going to win a game unless your opponents ignore completely

[golden plover]

I like the idea of this, but not for 7 mana

[lusty trench]

I feel sorry for people that pick up the faerie deck tbh

Why did they not give them a decent finisher

[golden plover]

Puppeteers is your "finisher"

[lusty trench]

That's what I mean though

This deck can't close games

And its in blue and can't protect itself

how are you in blue and have 3 spells with the words counter target spell while offering 0 other protection

[zinc shard]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/wilds-of-eldraine-commander-decklists

[rigid scarab]

-Umbra Mystic
-Retether
-Utopia Sprawl
-Daybreak Coronet
-Bear Umbra
-Mantle of the Ancients
-Hall of Heliod's Generosity

Most expensive card is Hall of Heliod's Generosity at $10 for the Aura deck

Not looking too good for it

Actually

Do we know the general price of these precons?

Because these cards are ABYSMALLY low value for even a $40 precon

[lusty trench]

Higher price per card on average than most decks, lower top end

Idk that's kinda cringe

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bY4zxb_U3Q&pp=wgIGCgQQAhgB&ab_channel=TheCommandZone

[golden plover]

It's because these are standard set precons. They don't care about the contents of these

Tbf doesn't seem like they care about any precons now

[golden plover]

$50+ USD

[granite badge]

ngl I miss the days when commander precons were yearly things

there are way too many of them nowadays

[dense berry]

shadow puppeteers looks flavorfully bankrupt

[golden plover]

Honestly

Although the $20 Kaldheim and Zendikar ones were pretty good

[dense berry]

why is shadow puppeteers not a shade or a dragon

why doesnt it have shadow

[copper pecan]

because shadow is an awful mechanic

and also doing an impression of a dragon or casting a shadow doesn't mean you are a dragon or a shade

[lusty trench]

I mean it does cause the card gives the puppeteers the dragon creature type

The card is also the shadow and not the two faeries casting it, as those are made when it etbs

It's very wonky flavour wise

[dense berry]

yeah it seems high concept and executed poorly

[copper pecan]

the card is called shadow puppeteers, not "shadow puppet"

it's the guys doing the shadow puppets and not the shadow itself

they're only doing the shadow puppets while they're attacking and that's why they're not dragons all the time

[dense berry]

the art shows two fairys and a shadow dragon the card is a 4/4 flying fairy that makes two fairy tokens???

[copper pecan]

if it was the puppet then it wouldn't be called a puppeteer

[lusty trench]

Worse nyxbloom ancient

[dense berry]

so why are there 3 fairies when there are two in the artwork? why is this a blue fairy that makes black fairy tokens? why is the base power/toughness 4/4 static if its supposed to only be a dragon while attacking? how does shadow puppetry translate to doing damage? why is the dragon red?

[copper pecan]

why does it being 4/4 mean it can't be a fairy

shadow puppetry translates to doing damage because it's magic shadow puppetry

the dragon is red because most dragons are red

idk why it makes 2 tokens

the fairy tokens are black because the ones in the set are black

[dense berry]

why would a random fairy rogue be as strong in terms of power and toughness as the fairy archmage thats flavorfully noted to be exceptionally powerful

[lusty trench]

This is how I see the card

And the card allowing others to become dragons is these creatures telling your other faeries how to do it

[dense berry]

oh also why is the base card a fairy wizard

but the tokens are rogues

[stark skiff]

Cause the tokens aren’t wizards the casters are

You’re really overthinking this

[dense berry]

its high concept its meant to be thought about

[copper pecan]

probably so they wouldn't have to print another token instead of the ones already in the set because of bitterblossom

you're really overthinking this

this is getting into the realm of "why can i equip lightning greaves onto a snake"

the card is a 4/4 because it's seven mana

[dense berry]

thats a straw man and you know it but sure

lightning greaves and any other card for that matter cannot flavorfully account for everything ever printed in the creature supertype

its design is solid for what the idea is trying to convey

this wizard puppet thing does not convey its flavor effectively like lightning greaves

[burnt relic]

[sudden lava]

shadow is just horsemanship 🙂

[atomic harness]

Hey I love horsemanship

[zinc shard]

I wanna make a deck with this commander sometime. Basically reads "your creatures are unblockable"

[atomic harness]

sun quan infect

[glad peak]

Let’s make blighted agent unblockable

[atomic harness]

now he can have unblockable and horsemanship

[rigid scarab]

The main deck I see this being built is just counterspell tribal

[atomic harness]

That's baral kid...

[rigid scarab]

As in

I've seen everyone who played Sun Quan

Play it as counterspell tribal

[atomic harness]

why play it like bad baral

might as well make use of horsemanship

[rigid scarab]

But why make use of creature-based blue when you can play mono blue combo instead

[fallow citrus]

sure if you want to play sun quan for mono blue combo go ahead

just sounds like a waste of a commander slot

[twilit canyon]

if the main body had flash id like it a lot

as-is? its kinda meh

[dense berry]

pack 1 pick 1 quality

[twilit canyon]

oh in limited this thing fucks

[trail anvil]

I feel like you need to run it in a flicker deck to justify it

so you're just doing a 2 mana flicker with a body after, unfortunate it doesn't have an etb itself

[atomic harness]

hi chat, my new lgs has this $100 bommander thing and I still want to play my usual unga bunga list but it seems to be clocking at $214 according to moxfield is there a way for me to keep stuff like urza's saga and esper sentinel in the list still

[lusty trench]

Show the list

[atomic harness]

kk give me a few mins since the moxfield one isnt updated

[rigid scarab]

Expect to meet a few budget cedh lists

I know Zada can be scary

[atomic harness]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/eRtuU4vEt0eT2Q03swZlxA this list isnt actually super good or anything im pretty mid at the game
but aye could use some help trimming this down to a hundo and maybe fit more card draw or interaction somehow

[rigid scarab]

Well

[atomic harness]

as long as we get to keep the main idea of slap early artifact creatures on the board, t3/t4 urza take over with constructs and hold some mana for interaction I'm okay with that
havent played in a while, when I played the main mvps were esper sentinel, ethersworn, the mana myrs, karn (construct first, then free cards)
and like the stupidly cheap interaction spells since I dont have a lot of mana most of the time

[rigid scarab]

No way in hell a $100 list is keeping Urza's Saga

[atomic harness]

yeah rip saga

[rigid scarab]

We gotta focus on

Which cards are crazy expensive because they're technically optimal

I'm looking at like

Relic of Progenitus

[atomic harness]

oh you can cut that tbh im not sure why its so expensive it came in the precon

[rigid scarab]

And idk what Skullclamp does for the deck

I think Teferi Time Reveler is best if you're going for a combo win

But your deck is very clearly focused on combat to win

[atomic harness]

the deck does have a combo win but I rarely get to pull it off yeah

[rigid scarab]

What does the combo win involve?

[atomic harness]

tef is honestly just removal draw and a funny "kill me" guy

Uh it's lord high, thopsword. infinite blue mana, infinite thopters, infinite life, and infinite uses of urza's gacha

but yeah I usually just punch people to death

[rigid scarab]

Glimmervoid is an expensive optimization that you can honestly just replace with a basic

And idt Inventor's Fair is gonna see the final list either if it's not a strict wincon

[atomic harness]

yeah thats a good cut. I just have one lying around so I play with it. funny lifegain wee

[rigid scarab]

Same with Veto being an expensive optimization

I don't see you getting in many counterspell wars

[atomic harness]

could we keep that, that card is kinda clutch

[rigid scarab]

Is it clutch in a $100 setting though

[atomic harness]

maybe not, but the use case has often been it stops something that ends the game without being stoppable by a kingmaker or the person trying to win

or those silly red elemental blast / pyroblast ppl

[rigid scarab]

I would honestly only keep $3+ cards in the deck if it's absolutely indisputably vital in the list

[atomic harness]

gotcha

[rigid scarab]

And Veto isn't a necessary card

Just a good card

[atomic harness]

we can just stick with the cheapo counterspells then

I do agree with running more basics to reduce the cost since the deck doesnt actually care about colored mana that much
I usually just need the esper mana for my commander then thats about it

more blue since counterspells and yeah

[rigid scarab]

I think anything $15+ is a no-go

So

I don't think Esper Sentinel's stayin

You can replace him with a Remora though

Accomplishes around the same job

[atomic harness]

I do own remora but I dont feel good about it because of bumulative bupkeep and it's harder to stick

shame but I guess 30 is a bit too much

esper has been the goat I buff him with cranial plating and he goes up to like 10+
and everyone says "you can just draw"

[rigid scarab]

Do you pay the 13

[atomic harness]

"I will not pay the 15"

some people pay the 5 though, madmen

oh what do you think of mishra's bauble, it's only like a dollip. Was a good time with emry

also I know scion of urza is $8 but I really do want to keep him

[rigid scarab]

Ren

I'm sorry

We have to put him down

[atomic harness]

narset is just a funny girl you know. I haven't had mine be punched in all the games I've played her because of the fat constructs being great blockers

then she digs for a counterspell smth smth it's a good time

[meager isle]

about narset?

[atomic harness]

oh I need some help getting my list down to a 100 dollars

while still keeping the general gameplan

[meager isle]

3 colors oof

you have a lot of pricey lands

urzas saga

[atomic harness]

Yeah we're cutting that

[meager isle]

are you even trying ren?

okay lol

[atomic harness]

No that's just my original list

urza's saga hard carries me every game

I get two constructs and sol ring

[meager isle]

yea good card

[atomic harness]

for my actual lands we can cut some of the expensive ones for basics since I dont actually need that much colored mana

[meager isle]

yeah I'd cut anything above $3

[atomic harness]

why is adarkar wastes 5 dollars minimum

[meager isle]

best land in standard iirc

well the pains in general

[atomic harness]

guess im taking out my sea of clouds too

islands plains and swamps time

[meager isle]

goodness offer you cant refuse is $3?

relic you probably don't need

clamp is strong enough to keep probably

[atomic harness]

sickle said I couldnt make use of clamp enough but I love the card

it's pretty broken so why not play it yfm

[meager isle]

ethersworn canist and esper sent are obvious cuts

urza is good enough to keep I guess

[atomic harness]

why didnt they reprint esper sentinel in cmm

[meager isle]

theyy don't want to throw modern a bone yet

[atomic harness]

it dies to bowmasters

I think we can keep most of my friends

[meager isle]

ban bowmaster

[lusty trench]

If you want to cut more

[atomic harness]

Aye

[meager isle]

ehh lion sash is cuttable

if not then cut the bojuka bog

[atomic harness]

oh sure we can cut lion sash

honestly the 1 and 2 drops can just be anyhing that has some bonus effect

you just want to have 2-3 artifact creatures when you play urza for affinity

vault skirge is my favorite

[meager isle]

I can't think of any cheap artifact creatures rn

[lusty trench]

Possible inclusion for a cheap searcher

It's like

$2 rn

[meager isle]

[[$fabricate]]

[atomic harness]

Oh this is cute if I commit to the thopsword play more

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/hop/9/fabricate

Prices for Fabricate

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[atomic harness]

I think I have one

im kind of dying for card draw now that esper died, best I have rn is spy network

is there anything else that's cheap to use?

[lusty trench]

Technically it's free if you played at the right time :3

Mask of memory if you can reliably get hits in

[meager isle]

[[mirrodin besieged]] is pretty decent I'd say

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/57/mirrodin-besieged

Mirrodin Besieged <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
As Mirrodin Besieged enters the battlefield, choose Mirran or Phyrexian.
• Mirran — Whenever you cast an artifact spell, create a 1/1 colorless Myr artifact creature token.
• Phyrexian — At the beginning of your end step, draw a card, then discard a card. Then if there are fifteen or more artifact cards in your graveyard, target opponent loses the game.

[meager isle]

can also kill someone if you choose to

[lusty trench]

This is also good

[atomic harness]

Yeah I have him

have cast and monitor

[meager isle]

Ayy $90 you have room

[atomic harness]

bumped lands back to 31

apparently this one is good [[liberator, urza's battlethopter]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/bro/237/liberator-urzas-battlethopter

Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Thopter
Flash
Flying
You may cast colorless spells and artifact spells as though they had flash.
Whenever you cast a spell, if the amount of mana spent to cast that spell is greater than Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter's power, put a +1/+1 counter on Liberator.
1/2

[meager isle]

Oh yeah it should be cheap too

[[$liberator urza]]

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[meager isle]

Ehhhh

We’ll see what we can add instead lol

[atomic harness]

I'm looking for cheap artifact creatures that bring some sort of utility

like soulless jailer is nice because of the floodgate

time to bring back lion sash

[meager isle]

Yeah lion sash is fine probably

[[myr smith]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/44/myrsmith

Myrsmith <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Artificer
Whenever you cast an artifact spell, you may pay . If you do, create a 1/1 colorless Myr artifact creature token.
The Auriok see the artificer as a conduit, beckoning new creations into the world.
2/1

[meager isle]

Idk how much extra mana you have

[atomic harness]

not a lot tbh

[meager isle]

There’s also [[myr battle sphere]] as a top end card

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/366/myr-battlesphere

Myr Battlesphere <:mana7:292901508540792835>

Artifact Creature — Myr Construct
When Myr Battlesphere enters the battlefield, create four 1/1 colorless Myr artifact creature tokens.
Whenever Myr Battlesphere attacks, you may tap X untapped Myr you control. If you do, Myr Battlesphere gets +X/+0 until end of turn and deals X damage to the player or planeswalker it's attacking.
4/7

[atomic harness]

[[$pithing needle]]

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[lusty trench]

Be aware of the possibility of going against zada

[atomic harness]

hm how do we deal with that

[meager isle]

[[zada]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “zada”, can you be more specific?

[atomic harness]

this one right

[meager isle]

White has protection cards I guess

[atomic harness]

im pretty sure you have to like always counter this or else they pop off any time or smth

[lusty trench]

If someone brings zada to the table get the rest of the table on your side to wipe them out

Playing zada is a declaration of war

[meager isle]

hm you only have like 3 creature counter spells

[atomic harness]

[[$blue elemental blast]]
[[$hydroblast]]

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[rigid scarab]

Zada is one of those commanders that "Never goes this crazy!"

(It was meant to go that crazy)

[atomic harness]

[[wash away]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/87/wash-away

Wash Away <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Cleave (You may cast this spell for its cleave cost. If you do, remove the words in square brackets.)
Counter target spell [that wasn't cast from its owner's hand].
"May the ocean take it" —Nephalia expression meaning "good riddance"

[atomic harness]

what about this one

[meager isle]

Good anti commander card yea

If it’s cheap id play it

[atomic harness]

Yeah it's less than 50 cents

[meager isle]

Perfect

[atomic harness]

I know timmies are always bashed for not having any interactions against decks they cry about

so I like to run a lot of counterspells removal etc

[meager isle]

Does your table run interaction?

[atomic harness]

a fair bit but I usually have the most

at any given time

[meager isle]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-nods-yes-agree-nodding-gif-17603202

[atomic harness]

hmm theres a billion 2 mana blue counterspells, what do we run aside from the ones I already have

also gonna put in both Beb and hydroblast I feel

[meager isle]

I would play only one

[atomic harness]

Yeah I prefer the ones that only cost U for the most part

[meager isle]

I guess there’s spell pierce but I hate those in non cedh

[rich bronze]

I read that as bowmaster

And flinched for a second

“It’s already at $100?!”

[rigid scarab]

When you say "Run interaction"

How many

In specific

And don't answer "As much as possible"

[meager isle]

I want to say 5 at the least

[atomic harness]

last time I played I had 10 counterspells and 4 instant speed removal

then some utility artifacts that interact with the opp like relic and co

[lusty trench]

15-20% is usually my answer for people asking how much interaction you should run

[glad peak]

40

[rigid scarab]

I now know what colours everyone plays

Bioo plays Green
Jot plays Black
Mudkip plays Blue

[atomic harness]

what about me

[rigid scarab]

Well I already know you

[glad peak]

No I play red

[lusty trench]

Currently I play colourless

[atomic harness]

devoid

[lusty trench]

(I got the eldrazi precon at a good discount)

[rigid scarab]

Part of me believes you to be a liar liar pants on fire

[glad peak]

I do set things on fire, yes

[lusty trench]

Bro wtf my pants

How could you

[meager isle]

I run blue

You’re not a very good detective

[rigid scarab]

I literally am not

[meager isle]

Don’t let dreams be dreams

[atomic harness]

I used to hate blue now it's my favorite color

[lusty trench]

Being countered Vs countering

[atomic harness]

[rigid scarab]

I'm still a green lover

[lusty trench]

Few things better than ramp and big thing go sideways

[meager isle]

Yea, defending it with counters

[rigid scarab]

Simic goodstuff

[meager isle]

You know me so well

[dense berry]

@atomic harness the cheapest deck possible is probably tatyova

[atomic harness]

oh i dont really wanna buy a new deck

[dense berry]

it would probably set you back like 15 dollars

you probably already have mana dorks and basics right

and various cheap counterspells

[atomic harness]

That's probably true loot but I'll stick w this deck for now, managed to get it down to 100

[sudden lava]

looking over the final reveals

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Edgewall-Pack-Wilds-of-Eldraine-Spoiler-400x559.png

new doggo

[rich bronze]

All of it

[copper pecan]

love the flavor in this set

[rich bronze]

Basically : if your deck can’t consistently cast Leyline Binding for 1 mana turn 2, your deck isn’t interactive enough

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Sugar-Rush-Wilds-of-Eldraine-Spoiler-400x559.png

[copper pecan]

this is like

one of the best combat tricks in a long time, right?

[sudden lava]

for sure

[rigid scarab]

What if I'm not playing 5 colors

Also idk how much that speaks to your deck being interactive

Being able to consistently cast Leyline Binding for 1

[rich bronze]

Then you’re playing magic wrong

[rigid scarab]

Is just a matter of getting 2 triomes out

Aww

How do I play magic right

[rich bronze]

Proper magic is when youre on 4-5 colours play a playset of wrenn and six and at least 20% of your deck is fetchlands

[rigid scarab]

Dammit!

[rich bronze]

Jund gets a pass though

Despite being only 3 colours

[glad peak]

Proper magic is running nonbasic land destruction and cards like blood moon and back to basics and price of progress

Magic like the good old days

[dense berry]

proper magic is cube drafting a power cube that only includes mtg cards printed before 2000

[rigid scarab]

I'm surprised there isn't much demand for "Cedh with a twist"

[meager isle]

Pauper cedh is a “thing”

[rigid scarab]

Also

EDH question

Snore

I'm looking for cards/interactions that make opponents go "Holy shit" rather than "Ah ok"

Basically

Rare/Uncommon haymakers

Not talking about card rarity

[glad peak]

Selvala + fetch with panglacial wurm in the deck

[meager isle]

Interaction as in combo or as in removal?

[rich bronze]

No, you’re supposed to let me play soup uninterrupted