Magic the Gathering

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, like the token is so inconsequential too, it’s only a 1/1

[golden plover]

Hole is better if they're low to the ground, but as a 3 mana instant, it removes basically everything

Honestly, the more I think about it, the crazier I think it is

At least in pioneer

Probably in EDH too

[sleek ferry]

Edh less so because path exists

[rigid scarab]

Hydra's Crown is a new card for my Ashnod

[sleek ferry]

Sorry not path

[golden plover]

Wait, it might be modern playable too

Path is in modern, but not swords, right?

[rigid scarab]

Definitely casual tables will have it be a new staple

[sleek ferry]

Meant fucking swords

[rigid scarab]

It's just Generous Gift #2

[golden plover]

I mean sometimes you need to triple down

Swords, Path, Stroke

Generous Gift gives them a much better body

[sleek ferry]

Well if you’re in mono white sure

But if you’re in white + any other color

You prob have better options available to you

[golden plover]

I mean, depends on the color

Boros Stuff probably would want it

[sleek ferry]

White also has access to lay down arms now too

[golden plover]

True

[rigid scarab]

Dreadknight would be broken in pioneer if golgari was good

[golden plover]

Lmao true

Dreadknight reads like he's crazy strong btw

I don't know where because I don't think there's a deck for him

But when that deck happens, he's gonna be solid as hell in it

[rigid scarab]

See even a yugioh/edh player can evaluate cards for 60 card formats

[golden plover]

I think his issue is that he's homeless

But when he gets a home, he'll be a very solid tempo piece in it

Recurring draw + body

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, if dread knight had been playable when sent to the gy instead of dying it would have been playable in abzan greasefang

[golden plover]

Ehh greasefang doesn't wanna run more creatures that don't win you the game

[rigid scarab]

Yeah Thugs

This isn't a greasefang card

[golden plover]

But yeah, I'd probably try a copy or two if he was "sent to the graveyard"

Either way, I'd say keep an eye on him

[rigid scarab]

Imodane looks like he only has a home in edh

[golden plover]

When we get a good golgari value deck, he'll be part of it

[sleek ferry]

You also want to hit playables in greasefang though and a draw is always nice

[rigid scarab]

As mono red burn #35

[golden plover]

Song of Imodane?

No way

Card is GOOD

It's a 1 mana "creatures you control have haste"

[rigid scarab]

Imodane the pyrohammer

[golden plover]

Oh yeah, she seems memey

Her song tho, seems STRONG

[sleek ferry]

Btw can we talk about how nuts thunderous debut is for a second?

[golden plover]

I dunno?

[sleek ferry]

We’re already ramping to 7 mana in standard

[golden plover]

It seems bad

[sleek ferry]

For 1 extra you look at probably half your remaining deck

[golden plover]

8 mana and a sac to get the best creatures in 1/3rd of your deck

[sleek ferry]

And put 2 into the battlefield

[golden plover]

If it was the whole deck, I'd like it

But it's only 20

It's a Timmy EDH card

[sleek ferry]

That’s the thing, it’s not going to be 1/3 of your deck by the time you play it

[rigid scarab]

Gruff Triplets

[sleek ferry]

It’s going to be half

[rigid scarab]

Maybe a devotion payoff?

[golden plover]

I mean, even half feels generous

Maybe in pioneer or standard

But like we've had plenty of zenith effects recently

I can't think of any outside of [[Green Sun's Zenith]] that see play outside of edh

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/150/green-suns-zenith

Green Sun's Zenith <:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Search your library for a green creature card with mana value X or less, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle. Shuffle Green Sun's Zenith into its owner's library.
As the green sun crowned, Phyrexian prophecies glowed on the Tree of Tales.

[rigid scarab]

I don't see Thunderous Debut being good

Like

[golden plover]

I don't either

[rigid scarab]

Even in EDH

Literally Tooth and Nail?

[golden plover]

Didn't we get a zenith effect in Kamigawa

[rigid scarab]

I just see it as a budget option

[golden plover]

Cedh zenith stuff is zenith, [[Eldritch Evolution]], and [[Chord of Calling]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/emn/155/eldritch-evolution

Eldritch Evolution <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature.
Search your library for a creature card with mana value X or less, where X is 2 plus the sacrificed creature's mana value. Put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle. Exile Eldritch Evolution.

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/158/chord-of-calling

Chord of Calling <:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Search your library for a creature card with mana value X or less, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

[golden plover]

And it's worse than all three

[rigid scarab]

This is good

[golden plover]

Sure it technically gets you 2 creatures, but it's not even the full deck

[rigid scarab]

I'm judging cards by pioneer/casual edh

[golden plover]

If it was full deck, you could do protean hulk things with it

[rigid scarab]

Alphonso is judging by cedh

And Thugs is here

[golden plover]

I mean even in pioneer and casual edh, debut isn't good

I'm judging a lot of stuff by pioneer too

[rigid scarab]

Expel the interlopers is

Another edh boardwipe for white

Nothing else

[golden plover]

It's fine

We already have farewell tho

[sleek ferry]

I’m judging for standard

[golden plover]

And if you want more sweepers, [[Vanquish the Horde]] is cheap as hell

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/41/vanquish-the-horde

Vanquish the Horde <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
This spell costs less to cast for each creature on the battlefield.
Destroy all creatures.
Odric took no joy in violence but neither did he mourn for the twisted things he dispatched. All that mattered were the lives he had saved.

[golden plover]

Vanquish the Horde is a personal favorite of mine for backup boardwipes

[rigid scarab]

Well if you're playing like

A weenie edh deck

I can see it

But then Austere Command

[golden plover]

No that's EVERYONE'S creatures

In EDH it's usually around 3 mana at worst

[rigid scarab]

I'm talking about Expel the Interlopers

[golden plover]

Oh

Yeah, Expel is like fine?

If you really care about a specific power or whatever, it's okay

[rigid scarab]

Also Scalding Viper

If only Izzet was good

Wait

[golden plover]

But if you dont, just play vanquish the horde

[rigid scarab]

Izzet is good

Tanglespan Lookout is another voltron card

[golden plover]

I'm actually not sure where Scalding Viper has a home currently

At least not in pioneer

Or Cedh?

Maybe?

[rigid scarab]

Does cedh sythis play it?

[golden plover]

It hits a LOT of stuff

But the issue is what cedh decks are in Izzet to want viper

[rigid scarab]

How many spells are cedh players gonna be looping though

That are 3cmc or higher

[golden plover]

Anything else would just play [[Harsh Mentor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/akh/135/harsh-mentor

Harsh Mentor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever an opponent activates an ability of an artifact, creature, or land on the battlefield, if it isn't a mana ability, Harsh Mentor deals 2 damage to that player.
"Fight through it."
2/2

[golden plover]

Oh I read 3 cmc or lower

[rigid scarab]

Because scalding viper is pretty much only good if someone's going infinite

[golden plover]

Yeah, I don't think viper has a home rn

[rigid scarab]

Beluna unfort isn't 60 card viable

An Adventure Tribal deck is cool though

[golden plover]

Wait viper is 3 or less

Yeah I was right on viper

[subtle sierra]

My lord stroke of midnight is something

[golden plover]

But I still dunno if viper has a home

[rigid scarab]

Oh I was incorrect

In a rare occurence

[golden plover]

3 cmc or less is WAY better

Issue is you've gotta drop it early

[rigid scarab]

Idk if it has a home either

Like

30 spell loops may as well be infinite

[golden plover]

I mean, viper hits you for playing rocks and dorks

That's good

[rigid scarab]

It can be in fucking

[golden plover]

We like to see that

[rigid scarab]

Niv Mizzet

idk

[golden plover]

But it being Izzet holds it back

[golden plover]

Sythis probably does play it, yeah

It's another draw

[rigid scarab]

Kind of a shame it has to be auras

But

Scalding Viper has me thinking

I might wanna make like

A trigger tribal deck

Where I just get triggers off of my opponent's game actions

[golden plover]

God viper feels so close to not being awful

But the more I look at it, the worse I think it is

Asinine Antics feels like an absolute shit mythic tho

Just play [[Dress Down]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/39/dress-down

Dress Down <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Flash
When Dress Down enters the battlefield, draw a card.
Creatures lose all abilities.
At the beginning of the end step, sacrifice Dress Down.

[rigid scarab]

Is Dress Down in pioneer?

[meager isle]

no

[golden plover]

Absolutely not

Dress Down would be BUSTED

[rigid scarab]

Ok

[meager isle]

would it?

[golden plover]

Yeah

Dress Down is a CRAZY CARD

[rigid scarab]

Idt cedh is necessarily a format that needs powercreeping then?

[meager isle]

It's good but it's fairly balanced

[golden plover]

I mean I guess Antics is fine in pioneer

But 5 mana to silence the board feels bad?

[rigid scarab]

Idk about Antics in pioneer

Because like

The only deck it would have a home in is UW control

And they already have Verdict for creature answers

[golden plover]

Antics is one sided at least

[rigid scarab]

Among others

[meager isle]

silence?

antics looks terrible

[golden plover]

Antics makes everything lose it's abilities, no?

[meager isle]

doesnt say it does

[golden plover]

Yeah, I think it's terrible

[rigid scarab]

No

They're just 1/1s

[meager isle]

it would read like [[witness protection]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/66/witness-protection

Witness Protection <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature loses all abilities and is a green and white Citizen creature with base power and toughness 1/1 named Legitimate Businessperson. (It loses all other colors, card types, creature types, and names.)

[meager isle]

you'd honestly rather run this than antics

which isn't what you should be doing

[golden plover]

Oh lmao you're RIGHT

I thought it stripped abilities

Nah, Antics is DOGSHIT

[rigid scarab]

Looks like just another edh budget boardwipe

[meager isle]

in blue I guess

but they keep it

[golden plover]

Yeah at that point, it's not that good

[meager isle]

song of toentanz is busted right?

in standard at least

[golden plover]

God I was evaluating it on taking their abilities and it was still bad

Song of Toentanz is INSANE

[golden plover]

It might be the best version of that effect we've ever seen

[meager isle]

like I was expecting the tokens to die at endstep but nope

they just stay there

[golden plover]

Yeah Red has gotten that effect exactly once for 1 mana

[[Mass Hysteria]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mrd/99/mass-hysteria

Mass Hysteria <:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
All creatures have haste.
The sooner you see the whites of their eyes, the sooner you'll spill the red of their blood.

[golden plover]

But this is your board only, and makes bodies equal to X

Card is CRAZY

[meager isle]

so many cards you know wotc made for commander

[rigid scarab]

The one dock for Song is that it's only for one turn

So I think it definitely serves a different role from Hysteria effects

[golden plover]

That's fine

You play it when you can kill them

[modern minnow]

second generous gift sidegrade in a row

[golden plover]

Or at the very least blow them out

[rigid scarab]

Yeah it's a game ender

As opposed to just a static effect

[golden plover]

I mean, worst case scenario it's a 1 mana Mass Hysteria for a turn

[meager isle]

second?

[rigid scarab]

Red actually doesn't have that many creature-based haymakers

Which is surprising

[golden plover]

But you're also probably pumping it up with whatever mana you've got left to swing for a ton of damage

[rigid scarab]

This has been done since 2020

Keep up kid

[meager isle]

[[food fight]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “food fight”

[meager isle]

is there no picture for the row under this?

why is it marked spoilers

[twilit canyon]

real-scorcher hellkite sounds like its a really annoying card

potentially best red mythic at least on initial read

[trail anvil]

sacrificing something low value like a role, food or blood token getting that much value sounds nuts

even if you don't have anything else you can just use the 4 mana to shock anything you want with a 4/6 haste flying body on board, which is still pretty decent value

I forgot, you still control auras like kenrith's transformation even if you attach them to opposing creatures right?

[twilit canyon]

yes

even w cards like that

sacrifice the one ring to cast it

shake off a high counter ring

get 4 mana back to cast another ring

[rich bronze]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Ba5xF_AbQ0G0AyfToPoBsA

One land spy is cool

But wtf $200 pauper deck

[trail anvil]

dreadknight looks more rough the more I think about it in standard, vs azorius or esper control where you'd normally get lots of value, they have a ton of exile removal

and vs dimir midrange they already have counter spells but can also side that shade that exiles

underdog leaving the field actually helps vs stuff like sunfall and just in general getting repeated guaranteed draws

[atomic harness]

Tell em komi

[hard river]

[burnt relic]

"or else"

[sudden lava]

the included image underneath ->

[atomic harness]

Pinkertons again?

[copper pecan]

i think it's probably "if you do this we won't sell cards to you anymore"

[rigid scarab]

Well I wouldn't disagree with affirmative action here

Pinkertons, while overblown, set a precedent

People who fuck around after this are gonna find out

[sudden lava]

Previews start this monday

https://tenor.com/view/elsa-gif-24453210

[modern minnow]

how much better would godo be if he was grixis

[twilit canyon]

black would be a significant upgrade

blue

meh

decent

but black getting him dark rit culling rit and such

would do much more

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945646524710942/1140083101398204416/IMG_5358.jpg?width=915&height=662

more leaks

[last glen]

Hmm
Questing Druid?

Gruul Dino support?

[golden plover]

Wow Beseech the Mirror is BAD

[copper pecan]

well yeah, they're not gonna print a good tutor in standard

[golden plover]

Not as bad as Asinine Whatever from yesterday at least

Asinine whatever was probably the worst card I've seen previewed in a bit

[last glen]

Charming Scoundrel worth it?
Treasure token for two mana?

[golden plover]

Sleep-Cursed Fae is okay

Wait Tangled Colony might be silly

Ehh probably not

[glad peak]

beseech the mirror seems fine if and only if you have sac fodder

[golden plover]

Charming Scoundrel actually seems really strong

It's worse Ragavan, but it's not THAT much worse

And nothing should ever be better than ragavan

[glad peak]

i really like tangled colony

[golden plover]

A hasty 1/1 and a treasure token for 2 mana is SOLID

[copper pecan]

sleep cursed fae seems terrible

[golden plover]

Sleep-Cursed Fae is the obligatory blue "use counter removal or whatever to cheat this guy out"

[glad peak]

charming scoundrel is much much much worse than ragavan tbh

[golden plover]

I mean yeah

[copper pecan]

charming scoundrel doesn't seem very good either

[golden plover]

But in formats without ragavan a hasty 1/1 that either loots or makes a treasure is probably solid

[copper pecan]

nowhere near as good as ragavan

[glad peak]

sleep cursed fae is decent and i think people are going to mess up the stun vs the untap ability

[golden plover]

I don't remeber what Wicked Roles do so I'mma ignore that line of text

[glad peak]

already seeing people saying you can just untap on turn 2 and swing

[golden plover]

Decadent Dragon is the obligatory 4 mana dragon that makes treasures for standard

Questing Druid seems bad

[last glen]

Two mana check top two?

[golden plover]

That's on rate

Apprentice's Folly seems.. fine?

I'm sure it's some form of EDH wincon tho

The Rat Lord is a rat lord

[copper pecan]

i'm so glad that the 6 set streak of rakdos sacrifice archetypes is finally over

even if rat tribal is a weird direction for it to go in

[golden plover]

I'm sure it's sac tribal somewhere in there lmao

[last glen]

actually is breeding tribal now

rats everywhere

[modern minnow]

i think the like 3rd grixis commander in capenna is pretty up there

as worst cards i can think of that have been previewed recently

[sudden lava]

rat commander

[copper pecan]

ogey

[sleek ferry]

???? Questing druid is insane

[trail anvil]

questing druid is crazy good yeah

[sleek ferry]

Did people already forget how valuable on rate adventures that are also solid bodies are

[trail anvil]

it's the already decent impulse draw with a decent backside

[sleek ferry]

It also pumps itself lmao

[trail anvil]

it's your next end step, but if you use it at instant speed it's just wrenn's resolve

[sleek ferry]

Like questing druid is probably slotting into Gruul pioneer also

[trail anvil]

apprentice's folly looks really nice in combination with bargain cause it's a double copy for 4

[sleek ferry]

From those 8 cards, questing druid and sleep cursed faerie are probably the most insane tbh

[trail anvil]

idk how often you're doing that in standard but I'm sure there's good uses for it somewhere

sleep cursed faerie looks pretty decent, the ward makes it nice and you likely are just holding the mana up in monoblue

[sleek ferry]

Sleep cursed faerie just lets blue keep counterspell mana up and use it elsewhere if you’re too scared of the counterspell

[trail anvil]

the big question is how much mana you're investing into it, or if you even need to in certain matchups

[sleek ferry]

It’s solid chip in general

If you swing 2-3 times you’re in a very solid position

[trail anvil]

feels like delver with ward to me

maybe you get some value later with the untap vs wandering emperor

[sleek ferry]

I forgot it had ward lmao

So it’s not even removable outside of edict/liliana

At least not on rate

And using liliana’s -2 effect for this feels BAD

[rich bronze]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gQETsFRj7YI

That last game

Lmfao

The ring is totally not an issue

[twilit canyon]

the ring is a fair and balanced magic card and hsould not be banned in any format

a collection of tall tales

i was personally on the fence about it

i was like

sure

its really strong

but it didnt win pt lotr

and it has some solid counterplay

but after play testing preordain murktide for like 25 matches a few days ago

i never wanna see the ring in modern ever again

and in historic too

im so over this card

[sleek ferry]

I want to see it gone from alchemy, that’s the one place I really can’t stand it

[twilit canyon]

thats a given

granted: its not taking over the alchemy meta

since dimir midrange does take good care of it

[sleek ferry]

Yeah but it’s a ticking time bomb

[sleek ferry]

Thoughts on questing druid Misty?

[copper pecan]

oh neat, questing druid is a reference to [[quirion dryad]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/198/quirion-dryad

Quirion Dryad <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Dryad
Whenever you cast a spell that's white, blue, black, or red, put a +1/+1 counter on Quirion Dryad.
"Never underestimate the ability of natural forces to adapt to unnatural influences." —Molimo, maro-sorcerer
1/1

[sleek ferry]

Oh huh it is

[twilit canyon]

its a combo of quirion dryad and reckless impulse

cards strong

[sudden lava]

well, someone found a stupid combo in the MBT discord

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1140038407754616932/image.png?width=687&height=967

when sorceries are also counter spells

[twilit canyon]

i love paying infinite mana to do nothing useful

[meager isle]

Reads apprentice folly*
“Oh wow that’s better than every other legendary copier”
Reads last chapter*
“Oh”

[atomic harness]

What's Role

[zinc shard]

New mechanic from the upcoming Eldraine set

[trail anvil]

that part is a bit of a drawback, but hopefully you're sacrificing it to bargain at that point

and we already have a red 1-drop that looks pretty solid for that

is it a hot take to call lili a bad card rn

I see her as a 3 mana sacrifice spell most of the time with a lot of people not wanting to plus because you have to be ahead to really make use of it

I feel like I'd rather just have the flexibility of sheoldred's edict if I wanted to go that route, but you aren't realistically running that card at more than 2

[twilit canyon]

shes been bad for ages

she is currently proven that shes bad even in standard

[trail anvil]

and yet I feel like I see her in every monoblack and dimir list

do people really hate graveyard trespasser that much

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gWEFs0jZXY&ab_channel=CommanderSpellbook

Ah yes, a way to make Rose Tyler get 900 thousand time counters

[sudden lava]

so yeah, another combo piece you can do in this combo

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/9/2/92b8fe7c-fe36-4f6d-9c7f-85286b745865.jpg?1619396675

Infinite pings of 2 damage

[lusty trench]

People have already brought up timestream navigator infinite right?

Just need a haste enabler

[golden plover]

I just realized you can [[Deflecting Swat]] [[Rise of the Eldrazi]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/214/deflecting-swat

Deflecting Swat <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
You may choose new targets for target spell or ability.
Archmage attacks are little more than annoyances to Kalamax.

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/716/rise-of-the-eldrazi

Rise of the Eldrazi <:mana9:292901508826005504><:manac:292901508943577088><:manac:292901508943577088><:manac:292901508943577088>

Sorcery
This spell can't be countered.
Destroy target permanent. Target player draws four cards. Take an extra turn after this one.
Exile Rise of the Eldrazi.
And still the titans were not sated.

[golden plover]

Now it's my goal to do this

[hidden ermine]

They still get an extra turn at least

[golden plover]

Yeah, unfortunately

[sudden lava]

yes

[copper pecan]

my prediction for how wilds of eldraine's plot is gonna end

[twilit canyon]

yeah thats what it reads to me too

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3cjStLWsAAQlO9?format=png&name=900x900

[trail anvil]

man I know bankbuster can never come back to standard but I miss using it to get absolutely insane value out of a 2 mana artifact

[twilit canyon]

try agent of raffine in alchemy

its arguably even stronger

[trail anvil]

that sounds fuckin hilarious

do you steal rings often

[twilit canyon]

no

agent of raffine and dimir midrange kind of killed the one ring in alchemy

still sees play

but its not overbearing in top 1200 mythic

card sees a lot less play bc losing your rings to agent is actually detrimental

but so is spending a removal spell on agent when you have halflings, shelly, bowmasters to kill too

[trail anvil]

damn

[atomic harness]

[[agent of raffine]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ysnc/4/agent-of-raffine

Agent of Raffine <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Rogue
, : Choose target opponent. Conjure a duplicate of the top card of their library into your hand. It perpetually gains "You may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast this spell." Then they exile the top card of their library face down.
1/2

[rich bronze]

I

No

[rich bronze]

Dimir midrange in alchemy?

How close is it to the legacy list

[lusty trench]

Idk it's copies 5-8 of the one ring/sheoldred

[sudden lava]

Oh I just realized another synergy for rousing refrain

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/The-Thirteenth-Doctor-Doctor-Who-Spoiler.png

Assume mono red partner (so Yasmin Khan for example), paradox triggers off suspend cards.

https://tenor.com/view/synergy-venenu-brandon-casale-smite-collaboration-gif-18017322

rousing refrain is a repeating trigger for Paradox effects

[twilit canyon]

very very far from

[rich bronze]

Sad

[fallow citrus]

god this looks so fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3B5XLwFvfk

[rich bronze]

Tier 5

[fallow citrus]

ok?

[rich bronze]

Eh

Honestly

I have no idea

What it’d take

To make high tide good again

but whatever it is, by that point it wouldn’t be high tide

[glad peak]

Higher tide

[lusty trench]

Got another pack of commander masters cause the set has been real nice to me

Fierce guardianship

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3gEVd9aIAA1mW8?format=jpg&name=large

[lusty trench]

Cringe

[dense berry]

black MUD commander? id play it

[golden plover]

Cringe

[sudden lava]

Nobody expects the 1 mana 1/1 goblin that cheats out bigger goblins

[clever sun]

I got

[[Fallaji Wayfarer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/11/fallaji-wayfarer

Fallaji Wayfarer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Human Scout
Fallaji Wayfarer is all colors. This ability doesn't affect its color identity. (It can be in any deck whose commander's color identity includes green.)
Multicolored spells you cast have convoke. (Your creatures can help cast those spells. Each creature you tap while casting a multicolored spell pays for or one mana of a color that creature is.)
2/4

[lusty trench]

Ah yes the card that has rule text that'd be cool on literally anything else

[copper pecan]

i got [[glistener elf]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/nph/111/glistener-elf

Glistener Elf <:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Phyrexian Elf Warrior
Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)
"Beg me for life, and I will fill you with the glory of Phyrexian perfection."
1/1

[copper pecan]

i feel like this could be genuinely good as a commander

[lusty trench]

It would

You'd also be hated out of any game

[copper pecan]

[lusty trench]

It has the funny haha word

The toll must be paid

[copper pecan]

it puts the funny counters

[twilit canyon]

i got [[ethersworn canonist]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/14/ethersworn-canonist

Ethersworn Canonist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact Creature — Human Cleric
Each player who has cast a nonartifact spell this turn can't cast additional nonartifact spells.
"The noble work of our order is to infuse all life on Esper with etherium. Our goal will be reached more rapidly if new life is . . . suppressed."
2/2

[twilit canyon]

gg

[copper pecan]

when the floodgate

[twilit canyon]

t1 canonist with mono-brown/white

unfort im stuck with dogshit mono-white commanders

combos

[hidden ermine]

[[Cragganwick Cremator]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/122/cragganwick-cremator

Cragganwick Cremator <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Giant Shaman
When Cragganwick Cremator enters the battlefield, discard a card at random. If you discard a creature card this way, Cragganwick Cremator deals damage equal to that card's power to target player or planeswalker.
Each night that his bowl fills, a village mourns.
5/4

[hidden ermine]

A lot less good if you're forced into red ngl

[golden plover]

I actually really hate Falaji Wayfinder's rules text

It's dumb as hell and literally only feels like a "haha look how quirky we are about getting around color identity restrictions"

[copper pecan]

i love it tbh

https://twitter.com/metaltxt/status/1690851932095787008/photo/1

metal.txt on Twitter

the dudes that stole a whole pallet of magic the gathering cards from gencon did it while wearing shirts for a different card game they designed lmao

Twitter · Aug 13, 2023, 10:24 PM

me when i steal things in a wildly popular security camera covered convention with no facial covering wearing my Identifying Information Outfit

[lusty trench]

Bro that art for the game

What tf is that logo

[fallow citrus]

idk I think it fell out of the 2010s

[lusty trench]

It fell out of steam greenlight wtf

[copper pecan]

apparently the game they made is called castle assault

[hidden ermine]

Thats like

So aggressively generic

[copper pecan]

do y'all think they did this as a marketing stunt or did they just legit forget that they were wearing t-shirts for the thing that they made

[lusty trench]

I mean I doubt it cause that's big prison time levels of theft

Tfw ulamog is more expensive after his reprint here

[sleek ferry]

I got

[[wedding security]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/138/wedding-security

Wedding Security <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Vampire Soldier
Whenever Wedding Security attacks, you may sacrifice a Blood token. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Wedding Security and draw a card.
In lieu of payment, he was granted permission to devour any unauthorized visitors.
4/4

[waxen timber]

I got [[Ingenious Thief]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/s99/40/ingenious-thief

Ingenious Thief <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Rogue
Flying
When Ingenious Thief enters the battlefield, look at target player's hand.
1/1

[waxen timber]

Cool effect but, I have no idea how to abuse that effect in mono blue

[lusty trench]

Took the commander masters survey

Damn there's a lot of boxes I put too expensive in

[zinc shard]

Casts Ingenious Thief
Target myself.
Refuse to elaborate further
Pass turn

[sudden lava]

In a similar note to gavin's post

same thing, but you refresh till you get a mono-colored enchantment, that card can now partner with any mono color commander of your choice, who you making?

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/0/d/0d4dd156-a2c1-4fab-b9f4-3302a4e8835a.jpg?1562898074

https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/a/fa727656-fb33-485b-9378-18b80cad42b9.jpg?1689996185

Wizzet Wizards

[rich bronze]

[CARDNAME] BW
Creature - Human Cleric

Shadow
Flash

At the beginning of your upkeep and whenever [CARDNAME] deals combat damage, for every other Human on the battlefield, put a [XXX] counter on target nonland permanent.

Permanents with one or more [XXX] counters have “cumulative upkeep: gain 3-X life, where X is the number of [XXX] counters on this permanent”.

1/4

How busted would this be hmm

[meager isle]

I find it funny you intentionally made it pass the bolt check

[sleek ferry]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AMKQfWbjDPo?feature=share

[trail anvil]

https://twitter.com/mtgjp/status/1691430742839132160/photo/1

マジック：ザ・ギャザリング on Twitter

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本日26時からのデビュー番組では更なるカードたちを公開予定！お楽しみに！

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https://t.co/v98qJDnE1J
#mtgjp #MTGEldraine

Twitter · Aug 15, 2023, 12:44 PM

[sleek ferry]

translation?

[trail anvil]

[[polluted bonds]] reprint

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/shm/74/polluted-bonds

Polluted Bonds <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a land enters the battlefield under an opponent's control, that player loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
The mystic bond between spellcasters and the land is just as vulnerable to attack as the casters themselves.

[sleek ferry]

ah

[trail anvil]

this is WOT not WOE to be clear, idk if this is going on arena

oh it's like MUL

[twilit canyon]

it will

its the bonus sheet

cool art but this card is ass

[trail anvil]

shame we didn't get this when 4c omnath was the obsession in hbrawl

that would've been funny

[rich bronze]

yea

😛

[lusty trench]

This is our fifth panharmonicon effect and our third one this year

[trail anvil]

ik elesh norn was one, what was the other one?

that said this card looks super fun

[lusty trench]

Gandalf the white

[trail anvil]

ah right

[lusty trench]

The twins

[sleek ferry]

aw shit this is solid for UW no?

[atomic harness]

Will looks nice

[trail anvil]

that's some fun card design

[lusty trench]

There's more on the MTG Reddit if y'all want to check it out

[meager isle]

You look nice

[meager isle]

I stopped using Reddit

[meager isle]

Blue ramp

[fallow citrus]

I shall simply dump them here

[meager isle]

Thanks aeri

[lusty trench]

It's mainly cause I'm on mobile data rn so I don't wanna waste it

[sleek ferry]

High key

Why is adventure a top 3 mechanic

[trail anvil]

virtue looks pretty damn playable to me

there are a ton of tokens to pump in standard and the adventure half lets you stall early, especially with vigilance

[sleek ferry]

Blossoming turtle is actually everything mono green needed

Wayfinder on 2, stomper/turtle on 3, Titan on 4

[waxen timber]

Yenna looks so nice. Might change my karametra edh deck to her

Like 2 mana to copy an enchantment that gives you 2 mana is sick

I bet there is some combo with like [[Elvish Guidance]], Yenna and a card that can sacrifice enchantments

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ons/255/elvish-guidance

Elvish Guidance <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant land
Whenever enchanted land is tapped for mana, its controller adds an additional for each Elf on the battlefield.
"Old home never forgotten, new home ours forever."

[trail anvil]

.

we're getting blood moon on arena ayy lmao

[meager isle]

Whoa another full art

[twilit canyon]

i think fetchlands arent out of the question

[meager isle]

Might replace mine lol

[fallow citrus]

oh that's hot

[sleek ferry]

selesnya getting more support

[fallow citrus]

oh there's another!!!

[sleek ferry]

oh this is samurai jack vibes

idk which one i like better

[trail anvil]

https://reddit.com/r/magicTCG/s/vvxJInRWPv

just gonna do the reddit post for this one, 3 cards

[clever sun]

The possibility of fetch lands not being day one bans on Arena are decreasing

[golden plover]

Man I wish Will had Lifelink

He doesn't seem like he does enough on his own

[twilit canyon]

alchemy rotated early

[clever sun]

RIP

Early rotation would have been fun

[lusty trench]

Counterspell with set mechanic

[twilit canyon]

pyroblast reprint

[zinc shard]

yo that seems busted

[trail anvil]

compared to make disappear it's a hard counter but will always require 1 more blue pip

[twilit canyon]

spreading cheeks

[fallow citrus]

ok a lot of revels

yoo lava spike

[twilit canyon]

b moon, land tax, necropotence, spreading seas will be pre-banned in historic

[fallow citrus]

did we know these

oh yeah we did right

[twilit canyon]

yes

[rich bronze]

2XYY instant

Reveal the top X cards of your library. Create Y Z/Z colourless Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying, where Z is the combined mana value of artifacts revealed this way. Shuffle all cards revealed this way back into your library.

Would y’all play this

Probably bad but funny

[lusty trench]

No

[meager isle]

Wait land tax?

Where?

[lusty trench]

It is below rate, hugely dependant on luck and is a pain to calculate

[twilit canyon]

it was revealed earlier

[rich bronze]

It’s below rate specifically because it’s dependant on luck

[twilit canyon]

as in, not today

oh and sneak attack too

[meager isle]

Ah nice

[lusty trench]

Below rate means bad, I wouldn't play this even if it wasnt luck dependant

[rich bronze]

*in some colourless edh deck

hmm

[twilit canyon]

plenty of below rate creatures with good upsides that make them worth it

[rich bronze]

Honestly at XYY

Probably viable in vintage shops

yeah

Yeah at XYY shops would play it

[sudden lava]

Oh yeah, reveals started

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Eriette-of-the-Charmed-Apple-400x559.jpg

goad auras

[fallow citrus]

just havin a little snooze

[lusty trench]

A minor nap

[rich bronze]

I wonder what mh3 brings

[meager isle]

Ugh

[rich bronze]

Give us fow

[meager isle]

If it’s more $80 mythic staples I’ll probably just quit cold Turkey

[sleek ferry]

Honestly, they really knocked the art in Wilds of eldraine out of the god damn park

I'll get 3 boxes just to open

[rich bronze]

My wishlist for mh3 is everything on here that isn’t legal yet

That includes unbanning opal

[sudden lava]

so many legendaries revealed

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/The-Goose-Mother-400x559.jpg

LETS GO, BIRD HYDRA

[sleek ferry]

oh it draws

if only it had flash

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Syr-Ginger-the-Meal-Ender-400x559.jpg

[rich bronze]

The fuck am I looking at

Are we ruining legacy again with initiative 2.0 or something

can’t read that

[sudden lava]

new otter

new otter

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Frolicking-Familiar-400x559.jpg

[twilit canyon]

reposts

[sudden lava]

there is not enough otter cards in MTG

they otter make more

[fallow citrus]

otterly ridiculous idea

[clever sun]

Doubt it ruins Legacy (again)

[sudden lava]

just tokens

[fallow citrus]

they sound about as broken as ring tempts you

except cursed might be good

[sudden lava]

OH mtg spoiler didnt post Hylda yet (watching the trailer)

She can make tokens when you tap opponents stuff? Ok I know who's going on that token art

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-olaf-ohh-look-at-that-gif-18671214

[trail anvil]

syr ginger looks fun to play with

I like the flavor of getting revenge on garruk lol

goose mother just makes me think of hydroid krasis at home

[sleek ferry]

Syr ginger about to fuck around and become a planeswalker next time we visit eldraine

[zinc shard]

Reminds me of Hydroid Krasis

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1141069872596525166/image.png?width=765&height=965

[sudden lava]

wait, even more otters 😮

[sleek ferry]

wait we got boros equipment buff

lets goooo

did I miss you guys posting restless cottage? card looks pretty good

makes a food token + exiles from gy on attack

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/vnqcr9l1abib1.png?auto=webp&s=2f380208267661abb6fcc8ed0f010fcb5d1ddcef

In universe Rick

[golden plover]

Pyroblast isnt bing added to any new formats. These are LGS promos

[twilit canyon]

toxic

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/myype0693bib1.png?auto=webp&s=3f454589ff609c6210e8c1f46be0ea7e91ff2506

@lusty trench hey at least it's not +1/+1 counters

Although it might as well be?

[sleek ferry]

not really

roles are fine,

i'm just annoyed that imma have to remember them

[golden plover]

They're cute enough, but I feel like they were really only designed for digital

https://preview.redd.it/czy6x853abib1.png?auto=webp&s=ee6312aa455cf959fa6d26d90d6465ffd790e3e6

Oh that sucks

The UW versions still say "walker" on them

[twilit canyon]

it cant not create a walker token

[golden plover]

It could just say 2/2 Zombie token

No reason for it to be a walker

[twilit canyon]

no

it has to say walker

or else itd be a different card entirely

[hidden ermine]

Yeah

It would be a functional change

[rigid scarab]

OK am I missing something

The End looks like

Maybe one of the worst Black removal spells I've seen in the modern day?

[trail anvil]

it's not a removal spell as much as it is removal + surgical extraction

[rigid scarab]

But like

Why does it let them draw

[trail anvil]

that's only if it exiles from hand

basically it replaces the cards that you remove from their hand

[meager isle]

Turn 4 surgical extraction and removal

I can’t imagine that being quick enough

[rigid scarab]

Surgical Extraction doesn't let the opponent draw though

And that's free

[trail anvil]

well yeah but surgical extraction isn't standard legal

and more recent cards of its type have done that, I'm just using surgical extraction as a nickname cause that's the type of card it is

[trail anvil]

probably not but idk

[rigid scarab]

Bc like

We agree that at 4 mana it's unplayable

And I can't imagine any Black decks in Standard, the only format it could be argued that this would be played in, that can comfortably modulate its life total to be 5 or less and be OK

@sleek ferry Yet another example of me just saying facts btw

[trail anvil]

it doesn't seem so slow that it's unplayable to me, but I think it would require a niche situation to have it over a good number of cards

I'm saying I think it's possible for this card to actually hold a niche compared to many spells

[sleek ferry]

Bro picked one of the worst cards revealed

I’m out

[rigid scarab]

I'm explaining why it's one of the worst

kid

[meager isle]

[[unmoored ego]] saw side play when it was legal I guess

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/grn/212/unmoored-ego

Unmoored Ego <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Choose a card name. Search target opponent's graveyard, hand, and library for up to four cards with that name and exile them. That player shuffles, then draws a card for each card exiled from their hand this way.
A well-chosen word can restore a mind or snap its tethers.

[hidden ermine]

I mean 4 mana pw and creature exiting removal thats also surgical and can cost w mana sometimes at instant really isn't bad

It might not be pushed enough anymore, but Vraskas co tempt was a good card in its standard

[trail anvil]

plus with the way that monored is nowadays you're getting down to 5 life naturally /s

holy shit there are so many rat token generators this set

also was this one posted yet?

[strong quartz]

new Eldraine cards look sweet

[sleek ferry]

Am I an idiot or is this a draw 4 for 3 mana + a sacrifice

[trail anvil]

it's closer to surveil 4 draw 2

[sleek ferry]

That’s really nuts no?

[trail anvil]

it seems like really good value

[[oppression]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/152/oppression

Oppression <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell, that player discards a card.
"Defeating an enemy is not nearly as satisfying as watching one suffer." —The Western Paladin

[sudden lava]

seems jank

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3lvMS-asAAPciU?format=jpg&name=large

Oh hi Rick

[golden plover]

The End is crazy

Gonna be a pioneer staple

https://preview.redd.it/qb8lhs7kgbib1.png?auto=webp&s=63922fff638942f2fdb6fbfe83738f1974e7c691

Could this not have been 1 mana?

A 3/3 for 3 with lifelink is only on rate, should have at most been 2 mana

[fallow citrus]

I imagine there's going to be stuff that can move curses off so maybe there's a 1 or 2 drop that helps that dump the curse immediately

[copper pecan]

there are multiple 1 mana cards that put roles on creatures which would cause the curse to fall off

[golden plover]

You've gotta jump through at least another card's worth of hoops to get a 3/3 for 3, and that's literally just on rate

[copper pecan]

and suddenly you'd have a 4/4 on turn 2

[golden plover]

Yeah but that'd still be 2 mana and 2 cards for a 3/3

[copper pecan]

a 4/4 for 2 mana is too good for limited at uncommon

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/co2wtfsiabib1.png?auto=webp&s=c4cfd3fa4664a66825317607ebe51601051d866b

@lusty trench lmao wouldn't be a set without a pre-reveal print error

Confirmed that the printed cards will have Wicked and Cursed wrong as well

[fallow citrus]

whats the error

[golden plover]

Wicked and Cursed arts are backwards

Cursed should be the frog with wicked being the witch

[fallow citrus]

oh sure

[lusty trench]

Rip lmao

[golden plover]

I can't help but feel like the roles should have been simpler btw

Especially young hero. It's way too much going on there

Monster is what they all should have been really. +1/+1 and Keyword

[fallow citrus]

I think they're fine

[golden plover]

Cursed is fine too

The issue is they're tokens generated by other cards

Young Hero has way too much text in that regard

[fallow citrus]

I mean, you'll always have the token there to read

and it just buffs your creature up to /3

[golden plover]

I guess. It's just a clunky token to be generated

[meager isle]

I can give creatures on the battlefield cycle!!!!

[golden plover]

Even better: You can give them FLASH

[meager isle]

[sudden lava]

No even better

you can give them timeywimey

https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/1/f1499f49-793b-4265-9ad0-883a431941ab.jpg?1689903296

[hidden ermine]

Not activated is it?

[golden plover]

Nah that was the joke

[trail anvil]

https://i.redd.it/woe-besotted-knight-betroth-the-beast-debut-stream-v0-cqk3rkc33bib1.png?s=df5c2011f32fdac3500b20b3eaec97dbd2b6d544

there's the furry on eldraine representation

[hidden ermine]

This is less furry and more monsterfucker territory tbh

[trail anvil]

same thing tbh

[sleek ferry]

In before we get an art of the Fox ripping this poor guy’s head off

In golgari colors just cause

[meager isle]

damn that card would have been sooo good if it was an instant

[copper pecan]

gaining ward at instant speed doesn't do anything

in order for ward to apply the card with ward needs to have had it when whatever's targeting it was cast

[sleek ferry]

it could hypothetically dodge cut down ig

or likeplay with fire/lightning strike

[meager isle]

ah right forgot ward is triggered

[atomic harness]

This one is clean

[sleek ferry]

Extremely fair flood gate blood moon

[glad peak]

It is though

[fallow citrus]

this is pretty cool honestly

[trail anvil]

[[intruder alarm]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/86/intruder-alarm

Intruder Alarm <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Creatures don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, untap all creatures.
One footstep among many is silent. One footstep alone is deafening.

[trail anvil]

I sincerely hope some of these cards are being prebanned in hbrawl cause holy shit lmao

[fallow citrus]

ik a lot of them are

[meager isle]

ayy I can finally get one for shorikai

[trail anvil]

are you sure it's hbrawl or is it historic

[fallow citrus]

oh let me check

oh shid leyline of the void

I know stuff like spreading seas is prebanned in historic

idk brawl sorry

[trail anvil]

yeah ik those ones, just hoping hbrawl gets some prebans here too

there are some cards that genuinely look like they'll be a pain in the ass, 3 mana paradox engine in a 2p format doesn't sound fantastic to deal with lmao

[trail anvil]

there goes blink of an eye with set mechanic

[golden plover]

I almost wish the bargain made it U

None of these are gonna be better than [[Snap]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dds/10/snap

Snap <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target creature to its owner's hand. Untap up to two lands.
It doesn't matter if the mind or body cracks first. They both have to go.

[golden plover]

So letting them be a bit cheaper would be nice to play with

Wait it's a sorcery

Yeah it should have cost U if bargained for

[fallow citrus]

I'd compare it to [[repeal]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ima/70/repeal

Repeal <:manax:292901509082120202><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target nonland permanent with mana value X to its owner's hand.
Draw a card.
"Your deed cannot be undone. You, however, can be." —Agosto, Azorius imperator

[fallow citrus]

not snap

snap is the most legacy card ever

nothing printed that can go into standard or modern or pioneer should be matching that power level

[golden plover]

I mean [[Unsummon]] goes into standard every now and again

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https://scryfall.com/card/m20/78/unsummon

Unsummon <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target creature to its owner's hand.
"Don't you have somewhere else to be?" —Sharuum the Hegemon

[fallow citrus]

and that's limited to creatures and doesn't draw

[golden plover]

Yeah true. I guess I just don't see why this one couldn't have been an instant

[fallow citrus]

I don't disagree on that part

I just think it's kind of unfair to compare cards printed into standard now to not match up with snap

[golden plover]

Yeah true

Should have gone with Unsummon

[fallow citrus]

I think repeal is the perfect comparison

they're the same card but one is just better

[sudden lava]

https://twitter.com/Adamenjoysmagic/status/1691648686823010446

Adam F-Bomb (@Adamenjoysmagic)

Ok here it is everyone! My absolute favorite proxy I've ever made? #magicthegathering #edh #MTGWOE #MTGEldraine I spent all night doing this. Can you tell I'm hyped for Hylda? (this is not for sale and is just for fun)

Twitter · Aug 16, 2023, 3:10 AM

[fallow citrus]

oh cool

mini eidolon in standard

[twilit canyon]

if steam clean was an instant itd be great but oh well

also notable it only pings opponents

[lusty trench]

It is certainly a card that exists. I don't know nearly enough about standard or pioneer but this feels too weak?

[fallow citrus]

it's possible that it's fine for standard

oh beautiful

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwXvywObUW4&ab_channel=TheCommandZone

[lusty trench]

Why is this a half hour video

[golden plover]

Isn't it 3 in 60 card, 1-2 in EDH?

[twilit canyon]

anyone need a pauper list here

win every single game

there isnt anything in h-pauper that comes close to mono blue

[trail anvil]

ninja of the deep hours seems really solid in that format

[twilit canyon]

worse than hacker

[trail anvil]

[[moon-circuit hacker]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/neo/67/moon-circuit-hacker

Moon-Circuit Hacker <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment Creature — Human Ninja
Ninjutsu (, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.)
Whenever Moon-Circuit Hacker deals combat damage to a player, you may draw a card. If you do, discard a card unless Moon-Circuit Hacker entered the battlefield this turn.
2/1

[twilit canyon]

moon-circuit hacker post buff is the best ninja in all of magic

[[a-moon circuit hacker]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/neo/A-67/a-moon-circuit-hacker

A-Moon-Circuit Hacker <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment Creature — Human Ninja
Ninjutsu (, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.)
Whenever Moon-Circuit Hacker deals combat damage to a player, scry 2, then draw a card. Discard a card unless Moon-Circuit Hacker entered the battlefield this turn.
2/1

[trail anvil]

jesus lmao

[twilit canyon]

1 mana deal 2, scry 2, draw 1

[trail anvil]

casual omen of the sea for 2 mana

[twilit canyon]

omen is worse. it doesnt deal 2

it also doesnt almost always cost 1 mana

[trail anvil]

right

https://i.redd.it/woe-howling-galefang-v0-rlvjfb28qiib1.png?s=7a3a91af85d540e218e9fe24741a044c46550b36

[twilit canyon]

deck gets to be tricky with saiba cryptomancer + intruder

means u can literally never block this deck profitably

[twilit canyon]

shame this doesnt seem to work well with yorvo unless new yorvo gets an adventure

[trail anvil]

I wouldn't be too surprised

https://i.redd.it/woe-stonesplitter-bolt-v0-dupummtlbiib1.jpg?s=2e2c3513616b426b0a33861e29c32debf6e787ae

this looks playable in some kind of red control

[twilit canyon]

no its dog shit

[glad peak]

If only it also hit players

[twilit canyon]

itd be better for sure

[glad peak]

But still very bad yep

[rich bronze]

[Cardname] 5RG

Creature - Lhurgoyf

Domain costs 1 less yada yada

[Cardname]'s power is equal to the number of basic land types among lands you control and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1.

⭐ /1 + ⭐

This would see 0 play in pioneer and standard but be potentially broken in modern

[twilit canyon]

for 7 mana?

this is like slightly worse [[territorial kavu]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/216/territorial-kavu

Territorial Kavu <:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Kavu
Domain — Territorial Kavu's power and toughness are each equal to the number of basic land types among lands you control.
Whenever Territorial Kavu attacks, choose one —
• Discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
• Exile up to one target card from a graveyard.
*/*

[rich bronze]

This is copies 5-8 of kavu

[twilit canyon]

for 7 mana?

5rg is way too much

[rich bronze]

It is supposed to have 2 domains

Sorry

[twilit canyon]

oh okay that makes a looooot more sense. in which case yeah itd probably replace nishoba brawler

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Ice-Out-400x559.webp

she slaying in this art

[lusty trench]

Me when frozen reference

[rich bronze]

Also you can play it in rhinos

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945646524710942/1141470850135109775/uuew0kas8jib1.png?width=531&height=662

absolutely insane card

white weenies is back on the menu lads

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-cute-gif-26252016

[twilit canyon]

this is super silly

[sudden lava]

would let someone rule zero that as a commander

[clever sun]

White Goyf

I don't know this reads a lot weaker though

[trail anvil]

this card just looks like it'll grow super big potentially which sounds funny

[sudden lava]

should've had a horse tribal tag

[clever sun]

Yeah but baseline is a 1/1

No keywords

I'm not sold it's good but it is cute

[trail anvil]

might not be good but I'm just picturing it growing to 10/10 with token generators

fuckin enormous bnnuy

[golden plover]

It's kinda worse Yoshimaru

Although I guess it's also sometimes better

And Yoshimaru wasn't standard legal

[copper pecan]

[[yoshimaru]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/nec/32/yoshimaru-ever-faithful

Yoshimaru, Ever Faithful <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Dog
Whenever another legendary permanent enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Yoshimaru, Ever Faithful.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
Day after day he sat there, knowing that the Wanderer would soon be back for him.
1/1

[copper pecan]

what

this is way stronger than yoshimaru

[golden plover]

Yoshimaru is also a french vanilla for cheap that grows really big

I mean it's better sometimes

Better if you're going wide and stuff

[copper pecan]

yoshimaru only counts legends, this counts everything

[twilit canyon]

needs a legendary permanent to enter to grow. this is also french vanilla that just gets fat with all nonlands

[golden plover]

Yeah the comparison was a french vanilla

[copper pecan]

yoshimaru also needs the legends to come down after he enters the field

this doesn't

[golden plover]

True this does grow on it's own

I'm just saying at the end of the day you still get a french vanilla

Might be nice in a standard deck tho

And every white token deck forever is gonna have it on edhrec lmao

[golden plover]

So @lusty trench I was looking at CL2 now that I've got more context and realized they fucked up the cycle of rare spells based on a party member

For some reason there's not a black or green one (would have been Shadowheart and Halsim) for the "Roll a d20" spells

Also lmao at Minthara being relegated to a signpost uncommon

Oh wait they did do a character spell in black, but it's Astarion's and he doesn't roll a d20

[sudden lava]

anything from eldraine so far that would be good in a jeskai time counter commander deck?

[trail anvil]

1ww

Elf Fox Knight

Flash

When ~ enters the battlefield exile target non-fox creature you control until ~ leaves the battlefield.

(1)(w), Sacrifice ~: You gain 2 life.

[rigid scarab]

Elf Fox?

[trail anvil]

supposedly

this feels like a worse brutal cathar due to a lack of day/night and type synergies

Princess Flies on Horseback - 2W

Enchantment - Saga (Uncommon)

I: Exile up to one target creature.

II: Target creature you control gets +2/+2 and gains flying until end of turn.

III: Return the exiled card to the battlefield under its owner's control

another card that says "run bargain cards"

吸取自我 (Syphon Ego?) B

Sorcery (uncommon)

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. Then exile a card from your hand if you don't control a faerie.

[rigid scarab]

Standard doesn't have any Thoughtseize-likes right?

[trail anvil]

idt so

[fallow citrus]

p sure it just has duress right

[subtle sierra]

does [[dread fugue]] fit?

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https://scryfall.com/card/vow/107/dread-fugue

Dread Fugue <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Cleave (You may cast this spell for its cleave cost. If you do, remove the words in square brackets.)
Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it [with mana value 2 or less]. That player discards that card.

[fallow citrus]

kind of

unfort it's just worse [[inquisition of kozilek]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/80/inquisition-of-kozilek

Inquisition of Kozilek <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it with mana value 3 or less. That player discards that card.
You will scream out your innermost secrets just to make it stop.

[subtle sierra]

well

standard

so

[trail anvil]

raffine at home

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1141632862307753984/Bitter-Chill-MTG-Wilds-of-Eldraine-Spoiler-card-previewed-by-TapSac.png?width=473&height=662

i think this might be the strongest version of this effect ever?

[atomic harness]

You said it micholas

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Icewrought-Sentry.jpg

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-frozen-idina-menzel-ice-bridge-gif-3524105

[lusty trench]

7 mana do nothing let's gooo

[glad peak]

2 mana kill a small thing 7 damage from yuriko let’s goooo

Don’t mind that we already have contagion lol

[lusty trench]

I just realized the green virtue is gonna be either a counter or token doubler

💀

[fallow citrus]

lmfao

ok wotc

[twilit canyon]

scam buffs

[fallow citrus]

they really love scam huh

kind of fitting

[golden plover]

Do we get one of these in every standard set now?

There's literally like 5 cards with this effect

[zinc shard]

just like we get a new Counterspell with the set mechanic every set

[rigid scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fqqf8AWqPg&ab_channel=TheCommandZone

FINALLY

A NORMAL FUCKING SETUP

[trail anvil]

I'm gonna love this card into monored

and soldiers probably

[rigid scarab]

||Two episodes in a row that aren't complete snoozefests, crazy. The one thing I gotta dock though is how the wincon of the game got laid out less than halfway in basically, once Secret Salvage was played||

[twilit canyon]

i saw this discussed earlier in the official magic server and i love the answer to it

[twilit canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931305913829195846/1141914349829632030/image.png

[copper pecan]

i'm convinced that like 99% of people who hate alchemy hate it literally just because it's different

the vast majority of alchemy cards are fun and play in interesting design space

they don't take away from the paper game at all

[dense berry]

i only hate the complexitycreep made possible by simulators like arena

reading all the different whacky effects is tiresome

[twilit canyon]

ok this is totally fair

complexity of cards in general was already going up

arena def gives them the avenue to go even harder on that

[dense berry]

i honestly think mtg is more off the deep end than yugioh at this point permanent cards have like 4+ beneficial effects

[twilit canyon]

hmm not in terms of text amount but definitely in terms of effects

[rich bronze]

Wha

[twilit canyon]

especially with how little detriment cards have nowdays

[twilit canyon]

no yeah its like

ygo cards have more text to say less effects

[rich bronze]

That’s true

[twilit canyon]

like looking at the new centurion cards

centurion trudea has just 2 effects

places itself from the field + a centurion from hand or deck into your backrow as cont. traps and then as a cont. trap, except the turn it was placed there was placed there by its 1st effect, special summon it and raise its level by 4

thats not a lot of text all things considered

then u look at say

[[evolved sleeper]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/93/evolved-sleeper

Evolved Sleeper <:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human
: Evolved Sleeper becomes a Human Cleric with base power and toughness 2/2.
: If Evolved Sleeper is a Cleric, put a deathtouch counter on it and it becomes a Phyrexian Human Cleric with base power and toughness 3/3.
: If Evolved Sleeper is a Phyrexian, put a +1/+1 counter on it, then you draw a card and you lose 1 life.
1/1

[twilit canyon]

3 effects

[twilit canyon]

or this new fox elf knight

flash, fiend hunter, and a sacrifice effect

3 effects

sure these are rares nowdays

but even uncommons have gotten wordier

the new howling galefang has 2 effects all upside but its a 4 mana 4/4

[rich bronze]

I mean why not give the classic example

[[questing beast]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/eld/171/questing-beast

Questing Beast <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Beast
Vigilance, deathtouch, haste
Questing Beast can't be blocked by creatures with power 2 or less.
Combat damage that would be dealt by creatures you control can't be prevented.
Whenever Questing Beast deals combat damage to an opponent, it deals that much damage to target planeswalker that player controls.
4/4

[twilit canyon]

qb was the exception back then. not the norm

nowdays, it still has infinite text and abilities but its not so out there

[rich bronze]

[[ice cauldron]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/me4/206/ice-cauldron

Ice Cauldron <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
, : You may exile a nonland card from your hand. You may cast that card for as long as it remains exiled. Put a charge counter on Ice Cauldron and note the type and amount of mana spent to pay this activation cost. Activate only if there are no charge counters on Ice Cauldron.
, Remove a charge counter from Ice Cauldron: Add Ice Cauldron's last noted type and amount of mana. Spend this mana only to cast the last card exiled with Ice Cauldron.

[twilit canyon]

they still didnt used to print a ton of cards like this though

they were definitely very wordy before they decided to keyword everything

[golden plover]

I think a big example to me is that even stuff like [[Glamours Outlaw]] is a COMMON

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https://scryfall.com/card/snc/190/glamorous-outlaw

Glamorous Outlaw <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Vampire Rogue
When Glamorous Outlaw enters the battlefield, it deals 2 damage to each opponent and you scry 2.
, Exile Glamorous Outlaw from your hand: Target land gains ": Add , , or " until Glamorous Outlaw is cast from exile. You may cast Glamorous Outlaw for as long as it remains exiled.
4/5

[golden plover]

She's got 3 effects and there's so much random shit in all of them and has all sorts of stupid tracking to deal with

[atomic harness]

even the packfillers are deathrite shaman now

(this is a hyperbole)

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/nuqge0mz0sib1.png?auto=webp&s=ff3d7db09407b6e9723634e927939239021619a3

Wait Peter isn't legendary?

He's named in the story