i would personally go towards 28-30
#Magic the Gathering
dense berry
cedh players have the greediest mana bases of all time
some even try to cut to sub 25
players dont know the value of lands
atomic harness
merry owl
i decided to make an etali primal conqueror edh deck 
golden plover
I stick to around 30 lands
dense berry
https://youtu.be/vBa6Whmnito
i mean its objectively otawara and its not even close
unless judging by their thumbnail theyre counting aggressive mana lands as utility
then its gaeas cradle
but thats stretching what utility means
rich bronze
Okay challenge
@dense berry What’s the best, in your opinion, reserved list card in edh UNDER 100 tcgmin
[[null rod]] clears IMO
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rich bronze
Play it in soooo many decks
sleek ferry
Bro you’ve been promoting Null rod so hard lmao
rich bronze
Bro you’ve been promoting Null rod so hard lmao
It’s part of the plan
Mass buy out
Jokes aside I love the card and I love stax effects in general
That’s why I play prison in legacy
3ball was the first card I ever bought
@sleek ferry opinion on winconless Stax?
rich bronze
That’s why I play prison in legacy
Well, and lands. Crop rot into tabby playing against goblins or something feels great
sleek ferry
Winconless stax I’m negative on. I’m All for stax that works towards a win con, winconless stax just feels as a way to make people rage
rich bronze
What if the wincon is winning via beating everyone to death with a 2/2
While everyone else is out of cards and can’t play anything
dense berry
<@239973891626237952> What’s the best, in your opinion, reserved list card in ed...
uhh i think [[copy artifact]]
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dense berry
also buy my copy artifact
sleek ferry
[[$copy artifact]]
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rich bronze
uhh i think [[copy artifact]]
Hmm good one
It’s played in urza
But it’s very niche
rich bronze
also buy my copy artifact
I have one :p
twilit canyon
@hidden ermine ninjas are 100% better with orcish bowmasters its not even funny. also lurrus is optimal as a result.
hidden ermine
Orcish Bowmasters are the ones that ping for every time your opponent draws basically?
twilit canyon
bowmasters bounce back -> thousand-faced shadow clone bowmasters
no no not just draw
[[orcish bowmasters]]
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twilit canyon
its on etb and draw
hidden ermine
Oh
hidden ermine
Oh wait its 2 mana lmao
I thought it was 3
Im guessing that means Ninjas are more aggressive then, since you dont draw as much?
hidden ermine
Damn
twilit canyon
infiltrator stocks goes down as a result
hidden ermine
Ill keep it in mind once I have some more time again
glad peak
I remember being targeted for playing stax with 1 damping sphere in my casual “random cards I have” pile 
twilit canyon
moon-circuit hacker is still goated bc its 1 mana scry 2 draw 1 deal 2 damage
even facing off vs bowmasters
i adjusted a special strategy for that
its called maindeck [[stern scolding]]
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twilit canyon
glad peak
I ended up locking someone out of the game because it got bounced and someone played mirari’s wake and I replayed sphere 
twilit canyon
silver fur master is also kinda goated since it can help bounce a hacker or buff it to save it from ping
hidden ermine
Oh wow, even playing Splinter
Even though the cost reduction looks like it barely matters
Only affects the shadow right?
twilit canyon
cost reduction doesnt matter ya
yup
it is only supposed to combo with the shadow too
but shadow is nice at getting multiple bowmasters in play
hidden ermine
Im guessing the Crucius nerf makes Drown in the Loch less good again?
twilit canyon
yes + stern scolding catches crucias too
scolding has a ton of targets
delighted halfling, orcish bowmasters, every single wizards creatures, crucias now
deathrite shaman, kinnan, lazav from kethis combo
giver of runes, esper sentinel, thalia, kembah's outfitter from hammer time
baby goyfs
yawgmoth
and his entourage
like literally every single creature in the deck
oh rona is also caught by scolding atm
twilit canyon
Im guessing the Crucius nerf makes Drown in the Loch less good again?
drown did also get awkward cus deathrite shaman is decently playable
canopy lands + fabled passage but also theres a lot of utility of being a mana dork that doesnt die to bowmasters ping
while also exiling instants and sorceries to deny snapcaster value
basically ninjas have to play a weird tempo
where u dont wanna draw too many cards outright
hidden ermine
Huh, nice
twilit canyon
yea its fun to draw a lot of cards
but
bowmasters really shuts that down
i think bowmasters is the best 2 drop printed in a long time
and is actually significantly impactful when it comes to punishing the opponent for playing unfair (drawing too many things)
twilit canyon
hmm its hard to say
cus bowmasters is really good bc of the meta
which is
the one ring in midrange decks
the colors dont matter. black preferably
flashing bowmasters vs the one ring is fat
but if the ring goes, is bowmasters good enough still? probably. but it wont be as ubiquitous
and i dont think it needs a ban in historic
especially since we dont have w6
in modern? i think either w6 and ring has to go
or bowmasters + ring has to go
since w6 and bowmasters actually bans x/1s
hidden ermine
Oh right, W6 was only banned in Legacy
twilit canyon
it wasnt all that broken in modern
it got a bit gross with boseiju but even then it was just a niche interaction all things considered. nothing crazy.
but now theres bowmasters + w6 sniping x/1s like ragavan or esper sentinel
its honestly really gross to face
golden plover
lusty trench
ugin when jace needs to be told what to do like a toddler
golden plover
Oh [[Blightsteel Colossus]] is on the List for CMM
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golden plover
Would have been a good to have in the fucking pack lmao
OH AND JUST [[KETRIA TRIOME]] LMAO
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Land — Forest Island Mountain
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Ketria Triome enters the battlefield tapped.
Cycling 
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Nowhere on Ikoria are monsters more integral to the landscape than Ketria, where the river itself will stand up and roar.
golden plover
Why just Ketria Triome
zinc shard
I stg if they spread Triome reprints out over the next 5 sets
trail anvil
zinc shard
my dream is to play Casualties selecting all 5 modes
trail anvil
I've done that a few times, it definitely is one of the best feelings in magic
especially when you manage to hit all value permanents
lusty trench
So a bit of information that actually might've made people buy the set I don't think they mentioned anywhere, draft packs have 2-4 rares or higher per pack, and sets have 2-6 rares or higher per pack
sleek ferry
yeah, I mentioned it
when I broke down the average price per rare/mythic you would need to break even on a box
@trail anvil should I feel bad that I always just kill everybody's commander over and over again in hbrawl?
trail anvil
no, some commanders are must answer threats tbh
well built hbrawl decks should typically be able to play without their commander
rigid scarab
Chat
I'm building Tribal Tribal
Can you name me some of the best tribal payoff cards
golden plover
Throw [[Ur Dragon]] in the command zone so your changelings cost 1 less
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golden plover
Stuff like [[Risen Reef]] to let you dig
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dense berry
whenever i make a tribal deck i really enjoy playing [taurean mauler]
[[taurean mauler]]
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rigid scarab
I got the changelings
I got the commander
I need the dumbfuck tribal payoff cards
Risen reef is good
I got Cloudshredder sliver
I think [[Life and Limb]] is funny
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golden plover
[[Lord of the Unreal]] is solid
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glad peak
[[extinction]]
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glad peak
rigid scarab
Fantastic synergy
dense berry
[[drogskol captain]]
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fallow citrus
do changelings and shapeshifters count as different types in hand too
fallow citrus
[[didgeridoo]]
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Artifact
: You may put a Minotaur permanent card from your hand onto the battlefield.
"Play the song of he who delivered us. Play the song of Feroz." —Onatah, Anaba Shaman
fallow citrus
just put down any creature
rigid scarab
Ok I would but
Changelings aren't really good on their own
And they tend to be cheap already
golden plover
Also play [[Maskwood Nexus]], [[Arcane Adaptation]], and [[Conspiracy]] so all your Lords affect each other
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Artifact
Creatures you control are every creature type. The same is true for creature spells you control and creature cards you own that aren't on the battlefield.
, : Create a 2/2 blue Shapeshifter creature token with changeling. (It is every creature type.)
golden plover
If you have lord and captain out, they'd both be illusion spirits and get each other's buffs
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rigid scarab
[[Cloudshredder]]
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rigid scarab
If I play Conspiracy
And name like
Merfolk
Cloudshredder would get the Lord buff but the Lord won't get the Cloudshredder buff
Is my thought process
I'm definitely playing Maskwood Nexus
fallow citrus
Lord would get the cloudshredder buff surely?
golden plover
Fair
rigid scarab
Also I think I need a wincon
rigid scarab
I mean
My original point still stands
Ruling question
Does this double up on creatures with multiple of the listed types
golden plover
I guess you can play [[Grist]] in this too
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golden plover
[[Grist, the Hunger Tide]]
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fallow citrus
+1 accidentally mill all your creatures
golden plover
Would be funny
twilit canyon
with dread return + thoracle thats a w
golden plover
Exactly
Also, the odds you hit all your changelings in a row are basically nonexistent
zinc shard
Draft Token day
sudden lava
Can you name me some of the best tribal payoff cards
I know an upcoming good removal for changelings
destroy target creature and burn 3, can replicate by tapping down changelings
and could use this to find changelings
rigid scarab
Ok this incident has been burned into my mind for months
We had a player at a table who was for all intents and purposes
Coaching someone else
Like telling them to take back any misplays
And telling them what to do
I asked him why and he said
"Well I just wanna make sure everyone's playing optimally"
I'm not crazy for thinking that's crazy right
sudden lava
were they coaching a new player even?
rigid scarab
No
sudden lava
god why
trail anvil
this is really funny but also kinda flavorful
hidden ermine
I liked the obligatory Monty Python reference card
Its more balanced than it looks at first glance
twilit canyon
yea its a good custom card
fun, flavorful, funny
i feel like this wouldnt be out of place in an unset
sudden lava
Not much longer till the card I've been waiting for gets revealed, plz dont disappoint me WOTC
lusty trench
I'm not crazy for thinking that's crazy right
Depends it's this like at an event or casual
Cause if it's casual I really don't care cause it's just someone helping someone learn interactions
atomic harness
Same jot
rigid scarab
Cause if it's casual I really don't care cause it's just someone helping someone...
The thing was like
It was said as if it was a mentality he felt good forcing onto people
glad peak
eh if the player they were coaching was confused on what their deck did then i don't think that's not too bad
rigid scarab
And it's not "No this doesn't work because of this interaction"
glad peak
but if they knew exactly what to do with their deck then uh 
rigid scarab
It was "No this is not the right play. Do this play instead."
And the player they were coaching was very much not new
Even if the play they were gonna make is technically incorrect
Idk it feels really wrong
Like just let em play
sudden lava
feels scummy yeah
lusty trench
It was "No this is not the right play. Do this play instead."
Did they explain why it was better to do it that way?
rigid scarab
No
lusty trench
Idk I'd just classify it as odd and move on, but I'm not heavily invested in the outcomes of my pods to begin with
rigid scarab
But also just scanning to make sure everyone's making optimal plays in a casual game is just off to me
atomic harness
rigid scarab
It's been sticking with me for way too much time
atomic harness
doesnt sound like a fun time though yeah
hidden ermine
i feel like this wouldnt be out of place in an unset
Tbh make the reference more subtle
And I could see it being an Eldraine card
rigid scarab
Nah if it was unset it would be like
Whenever you casted a blue spell, you casted a blue spell.
Whenever you casted a red spell, you casted a red spell.
Whenever you casted a white spell, you casted a white spell.
Whenever you casted a green spell, you casted a green spell.
Whenever you casted a black spell, you casted a black spell.
Whenever you casted a spell with no colours, you casted a spell with no colours.
rich bronze
$75 NM yawgs wills
Ended up ordering one for myself
The Japanese version honestly looks better than the English one
And it being a lot cheaper is a plus too
dense berry
"Well I just wanna make sure everyone's playing optimally"
the overwhelming majority of the time people are doing this to maneuver themselves into a better position
in a recent cedh tournament the finals pod was a joke because this kinnan player was talking about everything anyone was doing
we were at time in the round by turn 3
and it took a full hour for the turn cycle to conclude and the game ended in a draw
because the kinnan player knew one of the players had gotten paired up and was more easily manipulated
fallow citrus
not me opening reddit and immediately seeing this thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1593gja/why_are_there_so_many_issues_with_commander/
dense berry
casual commander is a exercise in futility because at the end of the day the goal of the game is to win
commander is supposed to move that goal post in a Johnny/Timmy sort of way but winning is still important
its kinda telling that there is a banlist for this format
the goal is supposed to be everyone has a good time and has fun
and almost everything is cool as long as the players discuss it first
but players cant be trusted to be responsible
lusty trench
casual commander is a exercise in futility because at the end of the day the goa...
This only works if all players don't really give a shit about the end point
For me I just care if I did something cool
dense berry
and man they generally always do
lusty trench
If I lose from there I don't really mind
I know others feel differently though so it can be difficult
twilit canyon
shared on another server. my current land collection on arena
look upon my works
ye mighty
and despair
zinc shard
"Do you pay the-"
"Just draw the damn card"
atomic harness
Yeah I had these responses lmao
dense berry
I once paid the 4 for mystic remora
twilit canyon
same
zinc shard
Easiest P1P1 in my life
dense berry
drafts made by wotc suck
pick rate is way too easy
14 draft chaffs and a wurmcoil engine lmao
sleek ferry
sleek ferry
hmm what to play for the explorer event on friday
zinc shard
zinc shard
4-0 so far, haven't even cast Wurmcoil yet
sleek ferry
So far so good, 5-0 in testing
zinc shard
Went 5-3
rich bronze
mini mail day!
sleek ferry
Been watching a couple of openings for commander masters, Draft boxes look like the way to go if you’re going to buy into the set
Alternatively, due to every pack of this set having anywhere from 2-6 rares, you could just wait for prices to dip on singles as idt much is going to stay high in the short term
dense berry
singles is literally always the way to go
rich bronze
singles is literally always the way to go
But what if you like gambling
twilit canyon
thats not the main combo
its just a 1 of inclusion for sometimes
the combo goes: flumph
flash bowmasters on their end step
draw 20~ish cards
swing with a fat army
alternate line: do the combo with shelly in play
this also beats the one ring protection
another thing that (can) beat the one ring protection is having 62 cards main
@clever sun lowkey i believe u when u say tainted pact is still fucking ridiculous in historic
trail anvil
ye ik
twilit canyon
this deck is so gross. no one deck should run all these good cards
zinc shard
It's gonna be funny if Flumph decks become more common if people just run more and more cards main to avoid decking out first
sleek ferry
@twilit canyon I need a side for the explorer event
dense berry
But what if you like gambling
either go to a casino or play a gacha game
fallow citrus
lusty trench
twilit canyon
<@480437470870110209> I need a side for the explorer event
what deck
sudden lava
everyone ready for tomorrow?
fallow citrus
what's tomorrow
glad peak
at my lgs there's going to be commander legends draft which is interesting
glad peak
no idea if it's all lgs's though
sleek ferry
Oh that idk
I mean based on the rarity choices it should be fine? But some of the mythic bombs change everything tbh
golden plover
Commander Masters looks like it'll be a fun draft. Provided it's relatively normal priced
glad peak
$40 
golden plover
Oh yeah, that's pretty reasonable
Only place doing it near me is $75 and that's not happening lmao
glad peak
tbh yeah not too bad now that i think about it
twilit canyon
Gruul Value
find a new 75
golden plover
$40 is a pretty sizeable chunk for a draft, but it's a decent draft and you could be doing a LOT worse
twilit canyon
is my suggestion
glad peak
it is a premium product™️ after all
twilit canyon
preferably rakdos
golden plover
True
$40-$50 is about what I'd consider standard for a "premium" draft
$75 is NOT HAPPENING TBH
meager isle
Holy shit bolt play rate is so low
Well it’s still high but it’s losing to everything in that list
twilit canyon
well side for rakdos then
meager isle
But yeah, Ring's gotta go
Nonsense it is now a pillar of modern
sleek ferry
Event is 1 loss and you’re out iirc
twilit canyon
yes
glad peak
"due to the one ring being widely available in bundles, we do not feel people have a large advantage through randomly pulling the one ring from packs. therefore, we will not be banning the one ring"
lusty trench
It's funny how the majority of that list is MH2 or LOTR
(swamp is if you want to be an ass about it)
hidden ermine
That many bowmasters is surprising
Well
I guess not that surprising
But I still didnt expect it to be that inasne
twilit canyon
its one of the best counters to ragavanamd the one ring
golden plover
I feel like Bowmasters was pretty clearly pushed, but I don't think people expected it to be that pushed
lusty trench
He said mh2 specifically
twilit canyon
its a problem when the one ring gets this high rep
will have to see win %
interaction being played a lot is good though
golden plover
No way they don't ban the ring and Bowmasters, right?
twilit canyon
idt they need it yet
its also either bowmasters or w6
both cant exist
together they delete x/1s
one or the other is fine. tough but fine
also idk if u need to ban the one ring
popular sure but wilp have to see winners results
could show up a lot and all of it loses
sleek ferry
W6 and ToR can go tbh, I like what bowmasters purpose is
Also yeah, people could just be smashing ToR in their weaker strats
twilit canyon
magic players will complain endlessly about the interaction in mh2 and wish for threats. they get threats to match and they go "wait not like that"
twilit canyon
Also yeah, people could just be smashing ToR in their weaker strats
not what i meant
the one ring only exists in omnath and rakdos scam really
no other deck fits the ring
its also not the most common in rakdos
but rakdos scam is insanely good into the one ring
its counter-meta
getting scammed out of your hand + punished for using the one ring means the deck solidly beats it
only 4c omnath stands a chance
with how popular scam is, i think the ring will not be omnipresent
sleek ferry
What’s mengu playing btw
twilit canyon
murktide also rakes good advantage of the one ring existing
idt im allowed to say since its not public knowledge yet idt
twilit canyon
im in a server with pt and rcq grinders
sleek ferry
Ah okay
But if he let the pt server know then isn’t that already a huge leak of info lol
Anyways I’ll wait to see
twilit canyon
theres like 20 ppl in the group tops
clever sun
Right that group. They go about getting priv info for personal use Iirc. Never leaking anything directly but sharing for the members within.
fallow citrus
its also either bowmasters or w6
my opinion is w6 ban personally but you can really argue either
clever sun
I have personal beef with Bowmasters in Legacy but yeah it's W6 in the long run
clever sun
Looting is awful in Bowmasters
fallow citrus
yeah that's v fair
hidden ermine
In that case faithless looting unban because its a fun card
fallow citrus
I just think w6 has been around so much longer and is just an endless value machine if you let it be
clever sun
That is to say, Looting could be unbanned and it would do nothing
hidden ermine
clever sun
No yeah Aeri. W6 should be the ban between them.
It is more unhealthy long-run than Bowmasters
fallow citrus
indeed
clever sun
Bowmasters puts a bit of a cap on how good draw effects can be. They punish unfair magic.
W6 is unfair Magic
lusty trench
W6 means wrenn and six right?
fallow citrus
time to knock 5c omnath down a peg again
hidden ermine
Aye
fallow citrus
ye
lusty trench
Awesome now I'm following
clever sun
Fun fact, Bowmasters has killed Delver from Delver and replaced Delver in the shell
fallow citrus
sad fact
clever sun
I'm glad people stopped playing that unplayable shit for good now hopefully
clever sun
didn't delver get taken out again at one point
When Ragavan was legal
fallow citrus
ah yeah that tracks
fallow citrus
yeah I do agree with that
clever sun
Dragon's Rage Channeler > Ragavan >>>>>>> Delver
DRC was always the best new one mana threat
Ragavan was the most oppressive in a vacuum
But DRC fits the Xerox shell so cleanly
In a few years, we will look at DRC as the gold standard for one mana creatures
fallow citrus
oh yeah drc is fantastic
clever sun
Borderline broken
fallow citrus
I'd argue it is broken once we start throwing cards like baubles in the mixture
being able to drc then immediately surveil is gross
lusty trench
I like delver as a card but yeah it's certainly... Something (mid)
fallow citrus
one deck I do want to try but fucking mtgo hasn't added the cards yet
is legacy miracles
sudden lava
Less then 24 hours
soft light
lol
sudden lava
like Im so hyped for this card
rich bronze
Will doctor who be modern legal
golden plover
Nope
twilit canyon
i cannot begin to describe how unexcited and uninterested i am in dr who stuff
sleek ferry
it's because we didn't grow up with it
or in my case, i've never even watched an episode
fallow citrus
I grew up with it but I'm not like
bouncing around the room for them
it will be cool to see some stuff though
sleek ferry
now Misty, imagine a UB Chespirito
lusty trench
I'm just wanting to see the suspend stuff
last glen
It has potential
sudden lava
btw I forgot, does magicon do like any streams for the reveals?
last glen
But it's very forbidden door territory
sudden lava
just so Im aware for tomorrow
copper pecan
they usually don't stream convention stuff
but i'm sure someone's gonna livetweet it
sudden lava
ah ok, lemme know as soon as Rose Tyler's card gets shown
twilit canyon
wow actually
@hidden ermine shadow and master are 4 ofs
they actually just kill ppl
its cealn
*clean
copper pecan
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684885815162527744?t=KKtY4XXYz1EBfE3L79jgEg&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684885910910095360?t=4VIf7U6lIey4yeyEOzx2jg&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684886244902535168?t=4lLjZWOQxwGEMkZX-5_CUw&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684886466374279168?t=FgTvrOmsYQivArnG5MGbnA&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684887646365974533?t=A0bG6NNkImW7KoWstG27RA&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684887849223786496?t=U140VjX90m2pNknl2kxTjQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684888007361560576?t=RhoBVKLHg-DJuYhmaYMPMw&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684888238362877952?t=1ayOUjyo46tL1RxZqDg66w&s=19
sudden lava
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684887646365974533?t=A0bG6NNkImW7KoWst...
😮 I really like Rose's ability
copper pecan
sudden lava
yo the villain deck looking cool
copper pecan
sudden lava
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684893995804065792
https://twitter.com...
ELSA
copper pecan
subtle sierra
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684894310104252419?t=FKl6-byjJmhRZGxo0...
so wotc wants me to play mtg again, huh...
copper pecan
sudden lava
missy is probably better off in planechase
but hey free draw or burn that scales off your artifact army seems nice
copper pecan
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684895333665349632
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684895419132690432
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684895697638703104
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684895757227171840
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684895828995891200?t=k52AcfsdBqVd4oD__ztlxA&s=19
sudden lava
may have to pick up timelord regeneration for the timeywimey deck
copper pecan
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896319461052416?t=tTapiBUmAusxdEvNB6YNJQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896370358976513?t=FwduXKeLpaDyuMdrNQTdDw&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896455192907776
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896512986288128
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896569991086080?s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896641847836672?t=gLVr7vbfdASWbBD4S2SsIQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896815437549568?t=KeP87COtiX2HA7o0zZ4rxQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896977710886912
https://twitter.com/mtgjp/status/1684896521039577089?t=U-NqKp7aVYoWW17JckmPKw&s=19
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684897335095037953?t=PMmNrhH6Ab4mVOHRxBf4AA&s=19
oh shit moonshaker cavalry is crazy
new edh staple for white probably
sudden lava
this one should be in the timeywimey precon based off the art
copper pecan
moonshaker is the card i was talking about, not farewell
fallow citrus
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896319461052416?t=tTapiBUmAusxdEvNB...
wow all of these arts are beautiful
I love the frame too
lusty trench
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684896815437549568?t=KeP87COtiX2HA7o0z...
Is that a fuckin main set doubling season reprint
sleek ferry
Bro
is it just me
or did they not miss whatsoever with the Ixalan art
holy shit
all of them are beautiful
@atomic harness come see this kid
Also, so many good reprints in Wilds
atomic harness
sudden lava
I feel like you for sure put swordcoast sailor into the timeywimey deck
or at least some ways to give Rose Tyler a form of evasion
rigid scarab
or did they not miss whatsoever with the Ixalan art
It's dinosaurs
Who could they possibly miss
sleek ferry
Bro do you see that art though
rigid scarab
I know
sleek ferry
this might be the best collection of art i've seen from a set
rigid scarab
Not surprised
sleek ferry
in a long time
sudden lava
btw what do people think about villainous choice so far?
sleek ferry
btw what do people think about villainous choice so far?
seems fine for casual commander, it's not really a newish mechanic though
sleek ferry
Looks like the reprint theme this time will be enchantments
and they're reprinting everything that needed a reprint
rigid scarab
Tbf that's about how this thing has been going for a while
sleek ferry
rhystic study should be like a $20 card after this
hidden ermine
Hm
hidden ermine
Im surprised by the choice of saga for the master
I would've thought the sounds of drums
sudden lava
my favorite so far for the villain deck has to be Missy
hidden ermine
Also nice to see the Valeyard
sudden lava
just steal their creatures, ping people to death , and card draw
and if in the planechase variant, absolute chaos on top of the card draw
Note Missy makes the artifact creatures deal one at a time
sleek ferry
Alright guys, I have an hour till the explorer event
here's what i got for my side deck
sleek ferry
2 tormod's crypt
4 rending volley
3 cindervines
2 hazoret's monument
1 Hazoret
I have 3 slots left
not sure what to use it on
sudden lava
seems fine for casual commander, it's not really a newish mechanic though
eh its different enough from the typical vote cards
golden plover
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684889184551776256
Why isn't this guy legendary?
He's "The Foretold Soldier" not "A Foretold Soldier"
rigid scarab
He's a The Foretold Soldier
fallow citrus
gl
sleek ferry
ty, i'll need it
rigid scarab
Maybe
meager isle
Wym maybe?
lusty trench
He's a The Foretold Soldier
There's only one
rigid scarab
I thought it was gonna be like
lusty trench
This is the Japanese art
rigid scarab
Parallel Lives or something
golden plover
Wait that's so funny the put doubling season and tithe in the standard legal set
Even less reason to buy Commander Masters
golden plover
It's okay, this is a bonus sheet
And a standard set
This reprint is WAY better than any of the CM reprints
Although I'm not sure why Eldraine got anime arts?
rigid scarab
In a vacuum?
golden plover
I guess it's just something we do randomly now?
golden plover
In a vacuum?
It's a cheaper set that's gonna be opened way more
meager isle
Wait that's so funny the put doubling season and tithe in the standard legal set
They’re not standard legal are they?
rigid scarab
No
golden plover
They’re not standard legal are they?
No but they're bonus sheet
meager isle
So like strixhaven thing
meager isle
I guess it's just something we do randomly now?
They learned weeb art sells
Can’t stop won’t stop
rigid scarab
And it made sense for Kamigawa
Does WOTC really care about it making sense
It reaches out to more people
WOTC hasn't touched the waifu tax
golden plover
But yeah Jumpstart 22 and this don't really feel like the right places for anime art?
rigid scarab
J22 should have made it clear
lusty trench
I love drafting in an environment with fucking necropotance, rhystic and prismatic omen
rigid scarab
But yeah Jumpstart 22 and this don't really feel like the right places for anime...
Does it need to
It makes money
golden plover
I mean if you randomly throw in anime arts every set it feels weird
lusty trench
Wilds better have good ass enchant removal at uncommon minimum
golden plover
There's a big tone difference from the Eldraine art to haha waifu
rigid scarab
They can have people play with anime girls
golden plover
Oh yeah, tone is already super fucked
rigid scarab
Like
golden plover
I just sorta wish wotc would make some considerations of tone at this point
rigid scarab
MTG is the Fortnite of TCGs now
golden plover
True
lusty trench
The anime doubling season looks bad
Like it's cute
But it's not what I want out of it
golden plover
I'm honestly not a fan of any of the anime arts?
rigid scarab
Wouldn't be surprised if they integrate Cloud Strife into the next arc of lore
golden plover
They don't really fit the card
lusty trench
I like the rhystic and the necropotence
golden plover
Wouldn't be surprised if they integrate Cloud Strife into the next arc of lore
We are getting an FF set
lusty trench
Smothering is kinda huh??
fallow citrus
I mean simply do not buy the anime arts
rigid scarab
We are getting an FF set
Yep
golden plover
At least the regular arts are SICK
lusty trench
Random twintails ojou Sama ohohoho reference?
fallow citrus
I wonder what the new threat is going to be
hasbro
golden plover
Eldrazi again
sleek ferry
rigid scarab
I wonder what the new threat is going to be
They have to explain how planeswalkers are losing their sparks somehow
Meet Nicol Bolas but again
golden plover
We're just gonna hop around the ones we have on ice
lusty trench
Bicol nolas
fallow citrus
marit lage
sleek ferry
didn't we get a hint of what nicol bolas was up to during the phyrexian arc btw?
golden plover
Once they deal with the eldrazi again, it's bolas again
rigid scarab
Sephiroth
lusty trench
didn't we get a hint of what nicol bolas was up to during the phyrexian arc btw?
He's doing sweet fuck all
golden plover
Bolas is literally stuck in the meditation realm
With no powers and no one has any memory of him
lusty trench
Man got stuck in his own Sherlock mind palace with his brother breathing down his neck
He also has no power
And is called " "
golden plover
marit lage
Lage has been downgraded to comic books only
But I guess that's okay because she's kinda just another Eldrazi at the end of the day
lusty trench
Imagine losing so badly you don't have a name anymore
golden plover
But notably he isn't dead
So you know we're getting bolas back when the sets aren't doing so hot
lusty trench
He's definitely coming back and my guess is tezerret
fallow citrus
yo what's poppin
lusty trench
Cause god damn tezerret loves him
fallow citrus
the next interplanar threat,
golden plover
Yeah I'd like a break from "they're gonna destroy the multiverse"
golden plover
Just a couple cool small scale dudes who only wanna destroy like a plane at best
lusty trench
And he was only there to please his father figure bolas
rigid scarab
Just like idk
fallow citrus
Just a couple cool small scale dudes who only wanna destroy like a plane at best
taking this idea literally. after eldraine we're back on ravnica and someone is trying to destroy a thopter.
rigid scarab
Didn't he die
golden plover
Yeah
lusty trench
Yeah but don't worry about it it was just a goof
golden plover
I still can't get over he didn't even get a card
lusty trench
(hell would absolutely kick tibalt out for sucking so much)
golden plover
Got compleated off screen and died on a random uncommon
lusty trench
Not to mention he died like 3 times
rigid scarab
Stopping Ob Nixilis' crime organisation in New Capenna
rigid scarab
We go through the lives of ex-planeswalkers having to deal with everyday problems and being annoyed by them
lusty trench
They really confirmed saheeli and hautli as a couple
Then said "nah have fun with the longest distance relationship"
golden plover
Although Norn also got killed on a random common
rigid scarab
Although Norn also got killed on a random common
Imagine the main villain of your entire saga being slain in a functional reprint common
I can't name a more humiliating way to go
lusty trench
Literally just said "IN COMES KARN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR"
golden plover
Hot take, I liked the old niche cards they used to use for killing arc villains
Stuff like [[Deicide]] was cool as hell
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rigid scarab
Jesus christ what's Elspeth's kill count on main villains
lusty trench
1
lusty trench
Technically 0 if you count Heliod as theros' main villain
lusty trench
It's Kaya, she always gets shafted when it comes to cards
golden plover
Hell, we don't even know which Theros Gods got compleated
lusty trench
I think it was all mono coloured ones?
lusty trench
Capybara? Capybara! Coconut doggy!
rigid scarab
https://tenor.com/view/hellinheavns-capybara-funny-gif-22520131
The car crashed, instantly killing the capybara, as capybaras cannot drive.
sudden lava
that's the backseat
rigid scarab
There was another capybara on the wheel
last glen
smh
all dinosaur art
no dinosaur effects
0/10 would not follow live tweets again
glad peak
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1684891826782703616
well now i'm confused, this can't have a doctor's companion because it's not exactly a time lord, right? (because of changeling rule)
sleek ferry
Match 1: 2-1 vs mono red
It could have easily been a 2-0 or 1-2 for them, i never actually stopped to think optimally before this match
rigid scarab
Gettem hugs
golden plover
well now i'm confused, this can't have a doctor's companion because it's not exa...
Nah has to be exactly "time Lord Doctor"
sudden lava
well now i'm confused, this can't have a doctor's companion because it's not exa...
it has to be exactly time lord doctor
hidden ermine
Maybe its just me, but do the Dr. Who cards feel a tad weak to anyone?
sleek ferry
Match 2: 1-2 vs Gruul Aggro (Mirror)
Sad
gruul spellbreaker ended up being the decider
golden plover
Maybe its just me, but do the Dr. Who cards feel a tad weak to anyone?
I think they're leaning towards weaker designs, yeah
Which is honestly a good thing
hidden ermine
Is it?
golden plover
Means something is less likely to break a format and can't be reprinted easily
hidden ermine
Yeah but I want the cards to be good so I can play em
golden plover
Yeah you want a nice middle ground
The jeskai guy seems strong to build around tbh
He turns [[Ancestral Visions]] into Ancestral Recall
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golden plover
Nah the Face of Boe
hidden ermine
Oh
glad peak
I like Jane smith, if there’s a blue black doctor then we have potential for a control deck on our hands
hidden ermine
There isnt
sleek ferry
Samut is actually such a huge difference maker for gruul aggro man
i feel like it's the first time I'm playing magic again
twilit canyon
ixalan and eldraine look great
sudden lava
Oh
river song has an infinite turn combo
Just find a way to give this haste
or like card draw
clever sun
YO ASHIOK LOOKS SO COOL
sudden lava
or like, just use during upkeep
merry owl
one of the commentators is annoying
my former modern deck is alive thanks to one ring FeelsStrongMan
glad peak
Which one?
twilit canyon
tron most likely
glad peak
Tron has always been alive
Tier 2 is still alive
UB control tho that came out of nowhere because of the one ring and lorien
wait hold on tron was still alive at tier 1 before lotr 🤔
rich bronze
no
glad peak
I’m sad murktide is copium tho
rich bronze
Murktide will be fine
twilit canyon
murktide is fine still
reason its not as popular is bc bad pilots have been exposed
deck no longer wins free so the ppl who arent good at the deck leave
glad peak
Murktide is fine but copium if we go by tier 2 is copium
rich bronze
Murktide isn’t tier 2
twilit canyon
murktide had some draws that were always free wins
rich bronze
murktide had significantly less free wins than other meta decks
Take creativity for example
Creativity has a lot of free wins
murk does not
( I play creativity )
twilit canyon
hm i mean kinda. the difference being that creativity had free wins and was also a free deck vs other decks
murktide had some free wins but was never a free win for anyone else
rich bronze
what no creativity had 0 relevant matchups worse than 40-60 pre LOTR
lol
that’s why creativity was the best deck
twilit canyon
ehh im not sure i agree. i think creativity could have real bad murktide match ups. and running into some azorius lists.
twilit canyon
im not denying it was really good
rich bronze
Also by free wins I don’t mean dominating matchups
I mean hands that basically read “you win”
twilit canyon
yeah idt modern was ever at a point where that was a case
idt its at that point right now either
rich bronze
Something like 2 fetches, wrenn, t3feri, creativity, pierce and bolt
those types of hands
twilit canyon
i also mean free wins where it almost never matters bc of your opener
not overall match ups
rich bronze
im not denying it was really good
It still is tbh
murktide is still good
creativity is even better
rich bronze
I’m conflicted on it because it’s a good matchup for creativity ( 60-40 )
but I hate playing against scam
twilit canyon
scam can be annoying yes lol
but its like. a fair deck at its core. even if its called scam
rich bronze
What the fuck if fair about it come on
honestly I wouldn’t be surprised to see scam eat a ban
But TOR is more likely
twilit canyon
its a set of fair cards at the baseline. its just annoying
rich bronze
And I’d scam does get a ban it’s OBM
rich bronze
its a set of fair cards at the baseline. its just annoying
I mean it’s doing the definition of unfair magic
Turn 1
twilit canyon
was just about to say
outside of turn 1 double thoughtseize with a 3/2 menace in play
rich bronze
Yes it’s a midrange deck that tries to do that turn 1 it’s not a fair deck
twilit canyon
it doesnt go for a combo, it doesnt play hyper-efficient threars like murktide, it runs interaction and plays to the board.
rich bronze
that’s like saying creativity fundamentally is just a midrange-control list
that grinds out games
twilit canyon
less dead cards though since fable is broken
rich bronze
you play all the good cards and you have a one card combo
twin also played good cards
twilit canyon
yeah but deceiver exarch sucks
rich bronze
sure
twilit canyon
thats fair
rich bronze
Twin had great card quality
twilit canyon
i wasnt around when it was a deck in modern. only ever played with and against it in cube and some pre-mh events
rich bronze
mhm
I wonder what the top-8 will look like
If we see 24 rings or more
I’d expect a ban
twilit canyon
merry owl
Relatable
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trail anvil
I mean I see her wrecking face with everything under the sun so
sleek ferry
I’ll get on that level some day 
twilit canyon
I mean I see her wrecking face with everything under the sun so <:nyaruhodo:8730...
thats cus i only posts the successful decks
tho tbf
my winrate is p high rn
im #7 mythic
winrate overall is at... 68%
trail anvil
jesus that's high up
twilit canyon
i landed #18 at start of season p much
i only dropped to 130s due to lack of attention
so i pushed a crazy winrate to get to top 10
i wont make rank 1 this month tho
i dont have the time to grind
i can win 2-3 matches in a row and my rank wont change
lose 1 match and drop 2
thats what happened earlier
hit #5
dropped to 7 bc i lost a single match
zinc shard
How are you playing Lurrus with Light Up The Stage?
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twilit canyon
How are you playing Lurrus with Light Up The Stage?
read lurrus
sleek ferry
Makes sense to me
zinc shard
oh Permanent
rich bronze
Would y’all consider modern to be an expensive format
sleek ferry
Yeah
You always judge a format by the price point for entry first before looking at other factors
waxen timber
I had never understood why people played death and taxes
Now I get it. It's so fun destroying all of the opponent's lands with Samwise and ghost quarter/field of ruin
copper pecan
having complete control over the board state can be fun
sleek ferry
So I tightened up most of my matches, but I really struggle with creativity in Gruul, any suggestions @twilit canyon
I can never pressure them enough to kill even on curve
rich bronze
You’re playing gruul creativity?
sleek ferry
No lol