Magic the Gathering

[lusty trench]

[fallow citrus]

bird tribal pog

[rigid scarab]

Notable reprints

[[Elvish Piper]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/a25/168/elvish-piper

Elvish Piper <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elf Shaman
, : You may put a creature card from your hand onto the battlefield.
"From Gaea grew the world, and the world was silent. From Gaea grew the world's elves, and the world was silent no more." —Elvish teaching
1/1

[rigid scarab]

[[Elvish Archdruid]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/khc/57/elvish-archdruid

Elvish Archdruid <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elf Druid
Other Elf creatures you control get +1/+1.
: Add for each Elf you control.
"The elves tend the forest, and the forest sustains the elves. My role is to ensure that the cycle continues."
2/2

[rigid scarab]

[[Lightning Greaves]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/clb/864/lightning-greaves

Lightning Greaves <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature has haste and shroud. (It can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Equip
After lightning struck the cliffs, the ore became iron, the iron became steel, and the steel became greaves. The lightning never left.

[rigid scarab]

[[Whispersilk Cloak]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/phed/22/whispersilk-cloak

Whispersilk Cloak <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature can't be blocked and has shroud. (It can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Equip

[rigid scarab]

[[Rejuvenating Springs]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/354/rejuvenating-springs

Rejuvenating Springs

Land
Rejuvenating Springs enters the battlefield tapped unless you have two or more opponents.
: Add or .
When they're done pummeling each other, the fighters relax companionably in the springs, warming their sore muscles.

[rigid scarab]

[[Heroic Intervention]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/afc/161/heroic-intervention

Heroic Intervention <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
"Stay close, and their wrathful flames will not harm you." —Galea

[rigid scarab]

[[Swan Song]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/c16/98/swan-song

Swan Song <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target enchantment, instant, or sorcery spell. Its controller creates a 2/2 blue Bird creature token with flying.
"The most enlightened mages create beauty from violence." —Medomai the Ageless

[rigid scarab]

[[Asceticism]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/som/110/asceticism

Asceticism <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
Creatures you control have hexproof. (They can't be the targets of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
: Regenerate target creature.
"Let my ignominy build walls thicker than iron and stronger than darksteel." —Thrun, the last troll

[rigid scarab]

Sauron precon

NO SHOT THEY HAVE A COMMANDER SAY

LORD OF THE RINGS

[copper pecan]

certified [[baldur's gate]] moment

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https://scryfall.com/card/clb/345/baldurs-gate

Baldur's Gate

Legendary Land — Gate
: Add .
, : Add X mana of any one color, where X is the number of other Gates you control.
"Of course I know what 'eponymous' means! It's a little horse." —Krizz, gate guard

[rigid scarab]

Notable reprints

[[Notion Thief]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/znc/96/notion-thief

Notion Thief <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Rogue
Flash
If an opponent would draw a card except the first one they draw in each of their draw steps, instead that player skips that draw and you draw a card.
3/1

[rigid scarab]

[[Basalt Monolith]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/232/basalt-monolith

Basalt Monolith <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Basalt Monolith doesn't untap during your untap step.
: Add .
: Untap Basalt Monolith.

[rigid scarab]

[[Arcane Denial]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/voc/102/arcane-denial

Arcane Denial <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell. Its controller may draw up to two cards at the beginning of the next turn's upkeep.
You draw a card at the beginning of the next turn's upkeep.

[rigid scarab]

[[Living Death]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/68/living-death

Living Death <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Each player exiles all creature cards from their graveyard, then sacrifices all creatures they control, then puts all cards they exiled this way onto the battlefield.

[rigid scarab]

[[Blasphemous Act]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/clb/780/blasphemous-act

Blasphemous Act <:mana8:292901508830330880><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
This spell costs less to cast for each creature on the battlefield.
Blasphemous Act deals 13 damage to each creature.
"Holy places are no longer sanctuary from death, and death is no longer sanctuary from anything." —Thalia, Knight-Cathar

[rigid scarab]

[[Reanimate]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cc2/5/reanimate

Reanimate <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. You lose life equal to its mana value.
"Death is a small price to pay for immortality." —Baron Sengir

[rigid scarab]

[[Treasure Nabber]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/c18/27/treasure-nabber

Treasure Nabber <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Goblin Rogue
Whenever an opponent taps an artifact for mana, gain control of that artifact until the end of your next turn.
The Law of Givesies Backsies is respected by every noble pursuer of shiny things.
3/2

[rigid scarab]

[[Scourge of the Throne]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/vma/184/scourge-of-the-throne

Scourge of the Throne <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dragon
Flying
Dethrone (Whenever this creature attacks the player with the most life or tied for most life, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
Whenever Scourge of the Throne attacks for the first time each turn, if it's attacking the player with the most life or tied for most life, untap all attacking creatures. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase.
5/5

[rigid scarab]

Frodo precon

Notable reprints

[[Sanguine Bond]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/c21/153/sanguine-bond

Sanguine Bond <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life.
"Blood is constant. Every drop I drink, someone must bleed." —Vradeen, vampire nocturnus

[rigid scarab]

[[Toxic Deluge]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cc2/6/toxic-deluge

Toxic Deluge <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, pay X life.
All creatures get -X/-X until end of turn.
"I am greater than rain and nourishment. I am glistening oil and perfection." —Yawgmoth

[glad peak]

For a moment I thought feasting hobbit was legal and I was excited for abzan/naya/green white saga little kid

[rigid scarab]

[[Farseek]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/pctb/27/farseek

Farseek <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Search your library for a Plains, Island, Swamp, or Mountain card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
"How truly vast this city must be, that I have traveled so far and seen so much, yet never once found the place where the buildings fail."

[rigid scarab]

[[Birds of Paradise]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/176/birds-of-paradise

Birds of Paradise <:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Bird
Flying
: Add one mana of any color.
"The gods used their feathers to paint all the colors of the world." —Yare-Tiva, warden of Gramur Forest
0/1

[rigid scarab]

[[Essence Warden]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cma/106/essence-warden

Essence Warden <:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elf Shaman
Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life.
"The more our numbers grow, the more I gain hope that Volrath and his cursed stronghold will one day fall." —Eladamri, Lord of Leaves
1/1

[rigid scarab]

[[Anguished Unmaking]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/170/anguished-unmaking

Anguished Unmaking <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Exile target nonland permanent. You lose 3 life.
Sorin had created Avacyn, so it was a cruelty beyond imagining, a pain beyond description, that it fell upon him to end her forever.

[rigid scarab]

[[Chromatic Lantern]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/pctb/51/chromatic-lantern

Chromatic Lantern <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Lands you control have ": Add one mana of any color."
: Add one mana of any color.
Dimir mages put the lanterns to good use, creating shapeshifters and sleeper agents from mana foreign to them.

[glad peak]

Frodo being a draw engine that can loot and Sam fueling the draw engine is pretty good

[rigid scarab]

And I think thats it

Jesus fuck that was a lot

This also reprints [[Genesis Wave]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/ima/164/genesis-wave

Genesis Wave <:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Reveal the top X cards of your library. You may put any number of permanent cards with mana value X or less from among them onto the battlefield. Then put all cards revealed this way that weren't put onto the battlefield into your graveyard.

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Hithlain-Rope-400x559.jpg

player order matters 🙂

ok

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Prize-Pig-400x559.jpg

this just reads eat all food with Sam

[sleek ferry]

Prize pig and frying pan read good

But commander cards are only legacy and vintage legal right? Not modern?

[twilit canyon]

yup

[sleek ferry]

Wait I just realized

Prize pig goes damn near infinite no?

Even if you like, gain 15ish life in a life gain deck, surely you can snowball that into at the very least a long turn

[twilit canyon]

it can snowball yes

its just a new way to heliod combo

[[spike feeder]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/196/spike-feeder

Spike Feeder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Spike
Spike Feeder enters the battlefield with two +1/+1 counters on it.
, Remove a +1/+1 counter from Spike Feeder: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Spike Feeder: You gain 2 life.
0/0

[twilit canyon]

[[heliod sun crowned]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/thb/18/heliod-sun-crowned

Heliod, Sun-Crowned <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to white is less than five, Heliod isn't a creature.
Whenever you gain life, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature or enchantment you control.
: Another target creature gains lifelink until end of turn.
5/5

[atomic harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7OVyWfsCF8 why is it called prismatic black?

[sudden lava]

the simic elf lotr precon is cool

elves+vote theme

[atomic harness]

wow I really like this 1997 black aggro deck

[rigid scarab]

Ren why did you turn into a dragon

[atomic harness]

[golden plover]

It's a mostly mono-b deck that splashed stuff like [[Chromatic Lantern]] to play [[Golos]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/pctb/51/chromatic-lantern

Chromatic Lantern <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Lands you control have ": Add one mana of any color."
: Add one mana of any color.
Dimir mages put the lanterns to good use, creating shapeshifters and sleeper agents from mana foreign to them.

https://scryfall.com/card/m20/226/golos-tireless-pilgrim

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Scout
When Golos, Tireless Pilgrim enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
: Exile the top three cards of your library. You may play them this turn without paying their mana costs.
3/5

[golden plover]

Well that and [[Prismatic Vista]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/244/prismatic-vista

Prismatic Vista

Land
, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice Prismatic Vista: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
There is beauty in the uncertainty of potential.

[golden plover]

Hence the namesake

Not that one, the wubrg one

[atomic harness]

Huh, well this one is from 1997

Kinda like this

is it because it's using lands like gemstone mine and city of brass to splash utility creatures/cards?

Green monke, incinerate for push, pyroblast, manowar

[golden plover]

Ah it's an older deck with the same idea

[atomic harness]

[trail anvil]

iirc that other version of chromatic momoblack was before golos

you used mastermind's acquisition to fetch other colored stuff from your sideboard

[atomic harness]

||CHOKING SANDS FOR GAME ||

[copper pecan]

[[choking sands]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/vma/109/choking-sands

Choking Sands <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Destroy target non-Swamp land. If that land was nonbasic, Choking Sands deals 2 damage to the land's controller.
"The people wiped the sand from their eyes and cursed—and left the barren land to the hyenas and vipers." —Afari, Tales

[sleek ferry]

Bro Thoralf has been getting clapped so hard this entire tourney lmao

Whoops wrong reply

Meant to @atomic harness

Mythic championship winner btw

[atomic harness]

I'm a mengu fan

also I'm surprised black has land destruction to begin with

[sleek ferry]

It’s a 1997 deck, so I’m not that surprised

Anyways, Andrea’s adaptation in g3 was great

Makes me realize how far I still have to go to be a good mtg player

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Model-of-Unity-400x559.jpg

this card is so cute

[sleek ferry]

With the semis we have though

I think it’s going to be Temur energy vs hazored

And hazored will take home the title of best standard deck ever

[clever sun]

Toralf isn't a bad player

But Mengu is on another level

[atomic harness]

agreed caster

I heard contagion was a surefire way to kill psychatog and mengu said something about it being black force of will (endearingly)

[clever sun]

Oh it's because it literally is Black's FoW in that cycle

In theory it is stronger than FoW since it can provide an even trade

Being able to trade two cards for zero mana and one life to kill to X/1s is pretty nuts in theory

Unfortunately, the amount of relevant X/1s doesn't ever beat out the amount of times a free counter spell saves you

[[Scars of the Veteran]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/me2/34/scars-of-the-veteran

Scars of the Veteran <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
You may exile a white card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Prevent the next 7 damage that would be dealt to any target this turn. If it's a creature, put a +0/+1 counter on it for each 1 damage prevented this way at the beginning of the next end step.

[clever sun]

No need to say why this card is a flop

[[Bounty of the Hunt]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/me2/154/bounty-of-the-hunt

Bounty of the Hunt <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
You may exile a green card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Distribute three +1/+1 counters among one, two, or three target creatures. For each +1/+1 counter you put on a creature this way, remove a +1/+1 counter from that creature at the beginning of the next cleanup step.

[clever sun]

Also easily explained flop

[[Pyrokinesis]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/ema/143/pyrokinesis

Pyrokinesis <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
You may exile a red card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Pyrokinesis deals 4 damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures.

[clever sun]

Now we are hitting good cards

This is also, in theory, better than FoW and in practice, better than Contagion

The ability to just delete anything with four toughness or less or clear four X/1s, or two X/2s or an X/3 and an X/1

Contagion could never

There are so many ways Pyrokinesis can create awful situations for an opponent

Would be crazy if they put it on a creature, made it cost one less mana and had the creature be a double striker with evoke for the same conditions as Pyrokinesis

But yeah this cycle is why Grief, Solitude, and Endurance all got entirely new effects and why Subtlety got nerfed down

Fury escaped by actually just being better than Pyrokinesis

Others in the cycle buffed because they sucked

One nerfed for the crimes of FoW

and... the last one buffed because...?

[twilit canyon]

ngl fury is the biggest problem child in modern atm

idt it needs a ban but holy shit its so backbreaking

coppercoat vanguard and jirina were def designed around fury

fury and solitude

[clever sun]

Mhm

We are definitely going to be seeing more wards and interesting ways for threats to circumvent Fury and Solitude in Modern

Sauron is a good example

Forcing them to eat a legendary creature or artifact is a big deal

It means that Fury and Solitude cannot evoke for a measely two for one

They need to three for one themselves to remove Sauron

Granted, I think Sauron is too much mana for Modern

But the point stands

[twilit canyon]

ya basically

[atomic harness]

Fury

[atomic harness]

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1116664851553603594/en_75176d4e0a.png?width=473&height=662

genuinely one of the best jokes they've done in years, outjerked again

[fallow citrus]

that took me a solid second lmao

[sleek ferry]

Wtf why didn’t anybody say they had 400 gems for 1500 gold

Cash out on gems @inland folio

You have till 11

[rigid scarab]

Commander Night fucking exhausted me

Busted out Ashnod and realised my deck literally just spun wheels

Either that or I couldn't draw into any of my wincons

[sudden lava]

Ya know what would make for a good upgrade for the halfling food precon?

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/9/0/90744c2c-6dd7-4623-8cbf-b138b83ee88f.jpg?1626098902

[rigid scarab]

Putting this in Shelob

[lusty trench]

Remember this will eat your food with an ability and give you a regular food

I think?

[glad peak]

I think so too, it’s an instead ability

[golden plover]

Shelob doesn't give the food abilities

Should be fine

[lusty trench]

shelob creates a token thats a copy of a thing thats a food in addition to its other types and it loses all types

so it creates a food

this sees it

and justs gives you a regular food, a treasure, and a clue

[golden plover]

Oh I see

Yeah that does fuck it up then

[rigid scarab]

Uh

I was just testing everyone on MTG rulings

[lusty trench]

[sleek ferry]

orange name btw

[rigid scarab]

What if Im right

And WOTC is wrong

[sleek ferry]

sorry, our rulebook is actually very good

[rigid scarab]

Is it hugs

[sleek ferry]

compared to the ygo one? It's like comparing a sweet hard caramel candy to a stinky sock

https://media.wizards.com/2023/downloads/MagicCompRules 20230414.pdf

here, read that for fun

[rigid scarab]

Your a stinky sock

[glad peak]

No I’m an mudkip sock

[rigid scarab]

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Glorious-Gale-Lord-of-the-Rings-Tales-of-Middle-earth-Commander-Spoiler.png

a counter spell and gets you another ability of the ring

[copper pecan]

woah they powercrept essence scatter

[sudden lava]

yup

[dense berry]

hey he's getting better at actually capturing the prompt

good on ya seb

[lusty trench]

Isn't seb the anti Vax guy?

[dense berry]

lmao is he

i just think of him as discount Richard Kane Ferguson

[trail anvil]

I forgot if he's anti vax but he participated in that stupid canadian truck caravan iirc

[hidden ermine]

Judging by the company he kept

Likely anti-vax yes

[trail anvil]

wouldn't surprise me at all yeah

[hidden ermine]

Either way, he turned out to be a bit of wackjob

[twilit canyon]

he himself is anti-vax

the company he keeps? very sus too

[copper pecan]

iirc wotc stopped working with him

they might still have art from him in the pipeline depending on how far they work ahead on that stuff

[hidden ermine]

Its not been officially confirmed iirc

Because they dont do that

But we havent had new seb art in ages so

Probably

[copper pecan]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/historic-story-2018-04-09

unrelated but i'm thinking about this exchange:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/583744045726040084/1116918952493330482/image.png?width=931&height=201

what do you mean you didn't notice what the mechanic is called, it literally says on the card

[hidden ermine]

Tbh that explanation is silly

A bog-standard knife is a piece of history?

Meanwhile lands arent

[zinc shard]

Bruh wtf

[lusty trench]

Managed to do a lot of trades today

Apex devastator and selvala obtained

[golden plover]

Tried out my friend's Tivit deck last night because I'm building him, and it made me realize red really is just easy mode in cedh

Not having will, dockside, and breach hurts

Although I did get to do a fun [[Angel's Grace]] into [[Ad Nauseam]] for Thoracle play

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https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/4/angels-grace

Angel's Grace <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't cast spells or activate abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
You can't lose the game this turn and your opponents can't win the game this turn. Until end of turn, damage that would reduce your life total to less than 1 reduces it to 1 instead.

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/76/ad-nauseam

Ad Nauseam <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. You lose life equal to its mana value. You may repeat this process any number of times.
When the task spilled over into undeath, he stopped calling it his life's work.

[golden plover]

Made me realize how good Dress Down and Angel's Grace are

[atomic harness]

dress down

[golden plover]

Dress down is a 2 mana "end the turn" most of the time

Angel's Grace is also a 1 mana "end the turn" that can be used to kill a combo player or Thoracle

Love that fucking card

[lusty trench]

Stomped everyone with nissa today that was fun

[lusty trench]

Having a battle with myself over if I should bite the bullet and get allosaurus Shepard

On the one hand, can't be countered is so good, on the other hand it's £23 and clogs the nissa search

[fallow citrus]

how is it clogging nissa search

[lusty trench]

It's an elf

Means I have to do 3.5 searches instead of 3

[thorny vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/459377437860560907/1117287447357816874/4469F554-6609-4384-9696-8231B80BB6F2.jpg
this was stuck in transit for so long istg

[glad peak]

Curious. Did you have an obsession with it?

[sleek ferry]

Just had a 40 minute g1 vs azorius AMA

[thorny vine]

what azorius deck

[sleek ferry]

Explorer Azorius control

[thorny vine]

oh

it do be like that

[lusty trench]

Anyone know any big dumb green creatures? I wanna make a mono green Timmy deck where I just play the big bois

[fallow citrus]

do you want the big dumb green creature as commander or not

[lusty trench]

I'd probably just make the commander mana and card advantage to get the big dumb creatures out easier

[fallow citrus]

my suggestion if you were looking for the commander would have been uh

what a goated little green dude

[lusty trench]

I'll probably be boring and make my commander selvala or something

[fallow citrus]

unless

make your big dudes cheaper

[lusty trench]

She'll probably go in the deck

[sudden lava]

hydras

[lusty trench]

Definitely worth looking into thank you

[sudden lava]

https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4e446e90-6e31-43ed-bcb1-a01422b503c0.jpg?1592517214

hydras get very thick

[granite badge]

Gargos is one of my favorite edh decks

its a very snowball sorta deck tbf

you durdle your way to gargos and suddenly start playing 6/6's for 2

or 4/4s

he even has synergy with common green protection spells that you'd want to play anyway

[[Snakeskin Viel]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/194/snakeskin-veil

Snakeskin Veil <:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. It gains hexproof until end of turn.
"Does a serpent roar and chase its prey? No. A serpent waits silently for oblivious prey to draw near."

[sleek ferry]

Can I do anything interesting with [[rocco, Street chef]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mat/44/rocco-street-chef

Rocco, Street Chef <:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Elf Druid
At the beginning of your end step, each player exiles the top card of their library. Until your next end step, each player may play the card they exiled this way.
Whenever a player plays a land from exile or casts a spell from exile, you put a +1/+1 counter on target creature and create a Food token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this artifact: You gain 3 life.")
2/4

[golden plover]

You're better off playing his first card

[sleek ferry]

Well yeah, og Rocco i see all the time at my cedh tables

But I’m just deckbuilding random shit in standard rn

Btw Saint, if you don’t mind me asking, what locals do you go to?

[golden plover]

I recently moved to VA Beach, so Tower of Games here

But Atlantis is better

It's a 15ish minute drive

[sleek ferry]

Oh wtf I thought you said you were in northern VA

[sudden lava]

why is this an elf?

[golden plover]

I used to be

[trail anvil]

in standard some people used him in naya ramp

I think it's just worse jund tho

[sleek ferry]

Eh I tried Naya ramp, I got bored pretty quickly

Rocco would benefit from the hobbit cards in the lotr set, but not standard legal

[rigid scarab]

Yknow coming from a hearthstone background

It took a while for me to take in how the RPS worked

In Hearthstone its Aggro > Midrange > Control

But just recently I learned that in MTG its Control > Midrange > Aggro

[clever sun]

MtG aggro can sometimes destroy midrange

It depends on the format and the decks

[thorny vine]

what format

[trail anvil]

time to play historic :^)

[trail anvil]

and yeah I feel like builds are everything, I think if you're running a ton of removal you're gonna shit on monored at this point, who run out of steam super fast rn

[clever sun]

Conversely, mono-removal is pretty ass agains the deck with Invasion of Gobakhan and Thalia

Though tbh Azorius Soldiers/Mono-White are more close to tempo as built right now

[trail anvil]

I gotta play more bo3 cause gobakhan is ass in bo1

and I love that card

[twilit canyon]

nah gobakhan is nuts in bo1 too

u dont play it with thalia tho

has potential to be even more backbreaking in bo1

its thalia or gobakhan

u only bring both vs control

but in bo1 control isnt real

[trail anvil]

I've been running it in monowhite midrange

[twilit canyon]

oh ew

u should stop playing mono-white (mid)range

[trail anvil]

I figured it would slot in perfect but it's been really bleh

[twilit canyon]

bring ur curve down a little lower

[trail anvil]

yeah I switched over to esper legends and azorius control

[twilit canyon]

i find control is still super mid rn

[trail anvil]

legends for when I actually want to climb, control for a ranked "pet deck"

[twilit canyon]

but thats probs bc i have been playing with real control decks in the past month or so

[trail anvil]

yeah you need to answer thalia on curve or you suffer a heavy tempo loss

and the best sweeper in the format is 5 mana

[twilit canyon]

midrange can eat the tempo from thalia

but they suffer vs gobakhan

• the hand peek

[trail anvil]

bankbuster was way more important to monowhite than I thought tbh

[twilit canyon]

it was yea

hard carrying the deck

[trail anvil]

but yeah I get gobakhan in a more creature heavy build

flipping it is backbreaking on top of the hand peek eff

[twilit canyon]

tbh tho

i do like pairing it with thalia for bo3

if bo1 u cut thalia or side her or gobakhan

tho

if ur brave

u can just run them together

[trail anvil]

[[recruitment officer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/bro/23/recruitment-officer

Recruitment Officer <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Soldier
: Look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal a creature card with mana value 3 or less from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
"Every name on this list is already a hero! Will you add your own to it?"
2/1

[trail anvil]

oh I thought this grabbed soldiers for some reason lol

[twilit canyon]

nah it grabs anything

[trail anvil]

nice that's gas

I forgot surge was just busted in general cause people talked about it so much vs invoke despair

[twilit canyon]

wins combat, blanks removal, blanks brotherhoods end and burn down the house

card is busto

[trail anvil]

fr

[sleek ferry]

https://twitter.com/golgariguy/status/1668165606833549312?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

golgariguy (@golgariguy)

Fun fact: The probability of finding the 001/001 One Ring in a collector booster is <0.00003%.

The probability of getting struck by lightning during one's lifetime is approx. 0.0065%.

Which means you're ~200 times more likely to get struck by lightning than to open the One Ring

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Twitter · Jun 12, 2023, 7:57 AM

[golden plover]

Yeah the ring is SUPER gambling

Honestly, I'm surprised it's not illegal to sell collectors boosters to children if they keep doing the serialized cards and 1 in 100 chances at shit

Although I guess they can keep getting away with "technically the cards don't hold any monetary value"

[lusty trench]

Anyone know a good MTG proxy website for the UK?

As in one that'll print em not one that makes em

[golden plover]

Does makeplayincards work?

[lusty trench]

Looks like it should, I'll look into it, might ask around see what their views on printing proxies through them is

Just want to make lotr variants of cards to put in my sauron edh deck

[fallow citrus]

this worked perfectly fine for me

https://mpcfill.com/

don't think shipping was too awful

only things I shipped were full 100 card decks though

[lusty trench]

Awesome thanks yall

Do you know which size to select?

Ah I see the US card game size option that's good

[fallow citrus]

if you use mpc fill I think it does everything for you

[lusty trench]

The issue is I want to use custom art and text

[fallow citrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicproxies/comments/q7202e/faq_resources/

this should be a good place to get all the info you'll need on that

[lusty trench]

Awesome thanks again

[fallow citrus]

the auto generate proxy link sounds promising though I haven't checked it myself

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuPnq4uppCU&ab_channel=TheCommander'sQuarters

In otherwords: Doctors confirmed to not be Planeswalkers

[lusty trench]

I'd honestly be surprised if they ever make a universes beyond planeswalker

the only planeswalkers in the dnd set are characters that canonically end up in places they shouldn't, have treversed realms of existence or have the power to do so

[trail anvil]

https://youtu.be/HIaoPAV0dcs?t=2469 cgb is a content machine

[zinc shard]

This is the worse Etali of all time

That feeling when you use an opponents card better then them

[golden plover]

What the fuck was that cycle from new Capenna with shit like [[Jennie Faye, Jetmir's Second]] in it? These mana costs look ugly as hell

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/195/jinnie-fay-jetmirs-second

Jinnie Fay, Jetmir's Second <:manarg:292901508738056193><:manag:292901508654301185><:managw:292901508977000448>

Legendary Creature — Elf Druid
If you would create one or more tokens, you may instead create that many 2/2 green Cat creature tokens with haste or that many 3/1 green Dog creature tokens with vigilance.
She watches Jetmir's back while her companions watch hers.
3/3

[golden plover]

Custom-magic ass

[waxen timber]

It is kinda neat that you can cast them for mono color if you want

[golden plover]

It is, but more than 1 different hybrid symbol in a mana cost and my brain shuts down

I like the idea, but they're gross looking

[waxen timber]

I agree with it being gross looking. I hate how the mono green is in the middle

[golden plover]

The middle symbol is always the normal one

[lusty trench]

Got sauron and his deck pre ordered

They're both selling like crazy

[twilit canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksLsFBD1lpM

@hidden ermine crokeyz finally uploaded the lurrus ninjas build

[hidden ermine]

Oh?

Wait, doenst that mean you have to drop the infiltrators

[twilit canyon]

i saw this a while back on his stream

yea

its an interesting idea

that moon-circuit + [[a-thousand faced shadow]] will carry all the draw

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/A-86/a-thousand-faced-shadow

A-Thousand-Faced Shadow <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Ninja
Ninjutsu (, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.)
Flying
When Thousand-Faced Shadow enters the battlefield from your hand, if it's attacking, create a token that's a copy of another target attacking creature. The token enters the battlefield tapped and attacking.
1/1

[twilit canyon]

the benefit being that u now get lurrus

[hidden ermine]

Hm

I guess I can see that, but Lurrus being 3 to add and then 3 to cast is kinda awkward ngl

[twilit canyon]

its the best grind card in historic ngl

even tho crucias is powerful and long lasting

[hidden ermine]

Yeah my main thought was, do Ninjas want grind more than tempo? Im not sure tbh

[lusty trench]

Bro who designed this

This like the most underwhelming shit

[twilit canyon]

this is an insane fucking card

cantrip + blow up x artifacts for 4 mana uncounterable since u dont cast it

if this was modern legal it would see play in living end

4 mana blow up + draw 1 + have a 9/7 trampler to bring back with living end

[lusty trench]

I don't play in a pod with artifacts I need to have this in is my issue

I'm sure it's great in other stuff but like I'm just probably gonna cut it

[twilit canyon]

maybe so but it isnt underwhelming

[lusty trench]

It is to me cause it's just kinda boring, I'm not a huge fan of effects like this

[twilit canyon]

you may not need it in your deck but this is a good card

[lusty trench]

Oh no it's absolutely good

[twilit canyon]

its underwhelming to you is a better way to word it but it is a very strong card

[lusty trench]

Yeah that's what I was going for

Need to find a replacement for cavern hoard dragon in the deck since that's going in dragons

archon of cruelty ig?

[twilit canyon]

archon is good but what deck

[lusty trench]

It's just gonna go in my sauron deck as a possible late game play/ re animation target

[twilit canyon]

oh sure

[lusty trench]

Deck has enough filtering to get it in the grave easy

Need to look into getting a vilis

[lusty trench]

Right I think I got just about everything ready for sauron, I'll pick up the rest when the pre order prices aren't insane

[trail anvil]

man I've missed this card so much

[strong quartz]

I remember the deck I built around this card in historic was my favorite time playing magic

[trail anvil]

it's so fun it's crazy

[rigid scarab]

yugioh

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/b9mba2qb9do

Meme about people trying to find the 1 of 1 Ring

[lusty trench]

Question, is ring bearer a status that checks like phased out creatures

[copper pecan]

if your ringbearer phases out it's still your ringbearer

[lusty trench]

What if you pick a new one, does it keep the ring bearer status since it doesn't exist?

[copper pecan]

no

[waxen timber]

How does the ring bearer turning stuff legendary work?

Like if I have two grizzly bears and one of them is tempted by the ring, do I have to send one of the grizzly bears to grave?

[twilit canyon]

nope

the card itself becomes legendary

if another effect makes grizzly bears legendary

then it would actually kick in

[sudden lava]

yeah it only matters for effects that look for legendary creatures specifically

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/The-Balrog-Durins-Bane-400x559.jpg

so if Balrog attacked while your grizzly bear is your ringbearer, your grizzly bear can block it

but only the one that is being affected by the ring, the regular grizzly bears cannot

[mystic aspen]

We're going full harem here

[sleek ferry]

https://youtu.be/O4mYX8Nirt4

It’s time

[glad peak]

Huh I just saw Nikachu’s turn 0 deck challenge and remembered something that happened when I played limitless

They banned a couple cards beforehand (like chancellor of dross) but the adaptations made me think of when I got Pact of the Titan banned

[atomic harness]

|| I hope prismatic black at least makes it into the finals||

|| I doubt it can beat hazored due to its insane creature quality, but itd be nice to see||

[sleek ferry]

Sorry kid ||temur energy vs hazored finals is eminent ||

[atomic harness]

||well I hope hazored wins it all then ||

[sleek ferry]

||hazored is actually such an insane deck tbh, it almost seems unfair||

[atomic harness]

scrapheap and bomat are broken kid

also karn scion of urza my beloved

||in quarter finals he used it to outgrind, here in semis he made thicc constructs||

[sleek ferry]

Not to mention, chainwhirler was basically ||an FTK vs faeries||

The fact that ||it went 3 games is a compliment to what’s his name||

[atomic harness]

||yeah though funnily enough it never actually wiped a field of fairies, I think carl played the best that he can. G1 G2 it got seized iirc, G3 mengu played it asap when carl didnt have mana up yet for flashfreeze so he can apply as much pressure as possible||

[sleek ferry]

Yeah but I think the threat more than anything was enough

[atomic harness]

[sudden lava]

decided for my birthday instead of a commander deck, I want some blue and green cards (leaning more towards blue) that are just cheap and generic good stuff that I can possibly add to the Doctor Who commander deck

[glad peak]

I might get the Frodo one because he’s pretty close to tymna but locked to abzan and less good but he’s much harder to block

[sleek ferry]

And probably funner

Tymna decks are boring

[glad peak]

Probably not, you’ll have to play him in a more stax/turbo style

[mystic aspen]

Went to a pre release. My pulls.

[sleek ferry]

That holo halfling might be worth a pretty penny

[sudden lava]

delighted halfling is a very nice pull

[lusty trench]

Birds of souls

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/8zBmrhlbk5M

[atomic harness]

maldhound

[sudden lava]

yep they always got the good vids

[lusty trench]

Got all my lotr stuff I need so that's good

Somehow walked away with 3 sauron the dark lords

[zinc shard]

man anytime i ever pull The One Ring I'm just gonna think "Damn, it could've been the one"

[rain lichen]

Ok, I'm struggling with something, so I got Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer and I've been debating to but it in my Goblin deck or not, what should I do?

[copper pecan]

ragavan is like

probably the single best red one drop creature ever printed

it would make sense to run it in basically any mono red deck even if it isn't a part of the tribe the deck cares about

[rain lichen]

Well my deck isn't Mono-Red, it a tricolored deck of red, black, and white.

[copper pecan]

i feel like it's still worth it

[twilit canyon]

ragavan is a mono-red mana dork for all intents and purposes

it fits p much all decks

[rain lichen]

In my Goblin deck in running a copy of Spectra Ward. In yalls opinion, is Spectra Ward just a worst Feat of Resistance?

[sleek ferry]

[[spectra ward]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m15/36/spectra-ward

Spectra Ward <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has protection from all colors. This effect doesn't remove Auras. (It can't be blocked, targeted, or dealt damage by anything that's white, blue, black, red, or green.)

[sleek ferry]

This seems bad

Also are you running boros goblins?!

[rain lichen]

Is that a problem-?

[[Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/138/ragavan-nimble-pilferer

Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer <:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Monkey Pirate
Whenever Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer deals combat damage to a player, create a Treasure token and exile the top card of that player's library. Until end of turn, you may cast that card.
Dash (You may cast this spell for its dash cost. If you do, it gains haste, and it's returned from the battlefield to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next end step.)
2/1

[granite badge]

5 mana???

this would have been okay in casual edh like... 5 years ago

[rain lichen]

It was one of my mom's favorite cards.

[sleek ferry]

@rigid scarab https://youtu.be/r1iaBJNn5eI

Good listen

[rigid scarab]

Likewise hugs

[rain lichen]

Don't you love the smell of money? /j

[sudden lava]

when do Game Knights usually release episodes?

like a week before precons come out?

[copper pecan]

[[futurist spellthief]] is so fun in cube

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/yneo/8/futurist-spellthief

Futurist Spellthief <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Moonfolk Wizard
Flash
When Futurist Spellthief enters the battlefield, conjure a duplicate of target spell into your hand. That card perpetually gains "You may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast this spell."
3/2

[rigid scarab]

I'll say this after some time spent

MTG players are way better at giving players specific deck building advice

When someone asks for a deck that features a random jank card in MTG

They will give you a featuring it

Ask for it in Yugioh and you get a 10 minute lecture on why the random jank card is bad and shouldn't be played

(It's me)

(I give the 10 minute lectures)

[granite badge]

tbf when it comes to yugioh you only have 1 lens to analyze cards under

with MTG you have multiple, based on format

[fallow citrus]

it just kind of is easier to make jank work in mtg

like we had a red midrange deck top a modern challenge the other day playing fucking [[mazemind tome]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/232/mazemind-tome

Mazemind Tome <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
, Put a page counter on Mazemind Tome: Scry 1.
, , Put a page counter on Mazemind Tome: Draw a card.
When there are four or more page counters on Mazemind Tome, exile it. If you do, you gain 4 life.

[lusty trench]

Yu-Gi-Oh player being asked to help build an archetype that fell out of play a day ago: "THIS IS AWFUL BRO WHY DO YOU EVEN PLAY THIS"

magic player being asked to help build vanillas matter tribal: "Yo that's cool as hell, first off you're probably gonna need..."

Jokes aside casual edh is why I stick with magic tbh, it just lets me do my dumb ideas and I get to do fun synergies I otherwise couldn't

[fallow citrus]

I just think like.. jank can work more than in yugioh

modern pioneer and to a lesser extent legacy all can kinda support jank, and then edh obviously

modern and pioneer have your setup turns which means you can just do jank

[meager isle]

Jank still needs to pass the win on turn x threshold of each format

[twilit canyon]

yea but its way more forgiving depending on the format

[sleek ferry]

Crazy that we considering mazemind tome jank

[twilit canyon]

it is

compared to reckoner bankbuster

[fallow citrus]

also in modern

why are we ever really playing it

[sleek ferry]

Yeah but when I think of jank, I think unplayable in every format

[fallow citrus]

eeeeh

[sleek ferry]

Mazemind tome was playable as recent as covid era

[fallow citrus]

I would say jank is unconventional tech that is rarely played or recognised in the format being discussed

like x card could be jank in modern but not in standard

[twilit canyon]

yea i dont think i call bad cards jank

like i will still play jank myself

pet cards are jank

they arent bad just suboptimal or funky

[golden plover]

Not bad for 2 collectors boosters

And 2 set boosters

Now the question is sell the sauron now or wait a bit and see if he goes up? I'm gonna hold onto the halfling because it's a really good card, and I'll probably end up selling the ring

[lusty trench]

After playing with sauron as my commander

He is so much fun

Nobody wants to pay the cost to remove him, nobody can stop his orc army from amassing and his discard hand redraw mechanic isn't only easy to do it's also super good

I would be surprised if he doesn't go up

[golden plover]

Gotcha. I'm tempted to build a grixis deck in the future, but I was thinking bolas

I'll consider sauron before selling him tho

[glad peak]

He’s grixis, that’s all you need to know

[golden plover]

But so is flip bolas

And he's funny

[glad peak]

I kind of wish some of the commander deck cards were modern legal

[lusty trench]

I guarantee you he's not as funny as knowing your opponent has a removal spell but doesn't want to use it I assue you

[glad peak]

I was hype for a gw/r or b food beaters deck

[meager isle]

Aren’t people opening packs like crazy for the ring though? It’s hard to imagine anything going up from the set

[golden plover]

They also can't be reprinted

[meager isle]

Oh you mean like years down the line

Yeah I can see that

[golden plover]

Once all the hype dies down after December reprints, all the stuff is gonna be stuck at that price

[lusty trench]

I mean they can as universes within

But they said they're not doing those for things often

[glad peak]

didnt the warhammer stuff get reprinted on the list?

i thought that was why they crashed in price

[rain lichen]

[[Gandalf the Grey]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/207/gandalf-the-grey

Gandalf the Grey <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Avatar Wizard
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, choose one that hasn't been chosen —
• You may tap or untap target permanent.
• Gandalf the Grey deals 3 damage to each opponent.
• Copy target instant or sorcery spell you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.
• Put Gandalf on top of its owner's library.
3/4

[rain lichen]

[[Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/one/10/elesh-norn-mother-of-machines

Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Praetor
Vigilance
If a permanent entering the battlefield causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
Permanents entering the battlefield don't cause abilities of permanents your opponents control to trigger.
4/7

[rain lichen]

[[Gandalf, Friend of the Shire]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/pf23/1/gandalf-friend-of-the-shire

Gandalf, Friend of the Shire <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Avatar Wizard
Flash
You may cast sorcery spells as though they had flash.
Whenever the Ring tempts you, if you chose a creature other than Gandalf, Friend of the Shire as your Ring-bearer, draw a card.
2/4

[lusty trench]

You are thinking of gandalf the white probably

[copper pecan]

someone in brazil allegedly opened the one ring

https://twitter.com/mtg_malone/status/1670153516298428417?t=n4NpfRcC4LW-0wxemrkmWA&s=19

MTGMalone 🔜 MC Barcelona (@mtg_malone)

MY PRECIOUUUUS

IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS FOUND!

But is this real? If it is, I am happy for them, Brazil is a huge part of my community, they deserve it :)

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Twitter · Jun 17, 2023, 7:36 PM

[fallow citrus]

https://twitter.com/GoodGuyShuckle/status/1670160960978288640?s=20

Connor BC (@GoodGuyShuckle)

@PGDHanson @mtg_malone I decided to examine the wotc video itself to compare and the foiling isn’t guilded like in the preview video

Twitter · Jun 17, 2023, 8:06 PM

[sleek ferry]

If this is fake

We’re going to be seeing a lot of these

In the coming weeks

[golden plover]

We're gonna be seeing a ton of them

It's super fucking easy to fake

I can get y'all 50 1/1 rings rn for $10

[sleek ferry]

The holo part on the lettering on the ring will eventually be faked also

Wotc is going to have to confirm the legitimacy of the one ring once it’s pulled

[golden plover]

Yeah, some of the people I know who do their own foiling can get it figured out in a few weeks at worse

[golden plover]

We can tell this one is fake because it's not curled lmao

[sleek ferry]

We’re talking about potentially millions of dollars on the line

[golden plover]

Yeah, this is really easy to replicate

Also, tbf wotc probably doesn't care to validate it

They make the money off the packs being opened

The ring is just pr to them. They'll argue "it has no monetary value"

[lusty trench]

The funniest god damn thing to me is I know for a fact they didn't slip a certificate of validity in the collectors pack with it like they absolutely knew this was going to happen

They just didn't care lmao

[golden plover]

Oh yeah, no shot there's a certificate of authenticity

Hell, the ring is probably gonna end up in one of their shredded landfill packs in a few years

They don't care about the actual card. All they care about is the PR and people spending $40 (which is absurd) for a lottery ticket

[lusty trench]

My lgs charges £38 a pack

(that's 48 dollars)

[golden plover]

Jesus. I think they add a markup for UB stuff, but also non-standard sets get them anyways

MH2 collector boosters were like $45

[lusty trench]

My lgs just adds on a lot to RRP

[golden plover]

Mine adds a bit, but these packs are anywhere from $35-$55 online as is

So they jacked up the price just because of the lottery ticket inside

Would be funny if this is what gets them that gambling lawsuit again lmao

[lusty trench]

The fact that I can buy literally 2 of anything in this set singles wise for the price of a collector's pack

[golden plover]

Yeah the only singles with any value are gandalf, sauron, and the one ring

Gotta be the foil one ring, not the regular

[lusty trench]

You forgot orcish bowmasters

[golden plover]

Oh right, he's like $30

So yeah, there's 3 card worth the value of the booster lmao

Glad I pulled 2/3 but the majority of people won't

At least you can maybe get a sol ring

[lusty trench]

I honestly only like the elven one

[golden plover]

But even then, those are a lottery ticket

Which one is that? The tree?

[lusty trench]

Yeah

[golden plover]

That's the coolest, but it is like $500

The other two are like $250 and $100 respectively

[lusty trench]

Honestly my favourite sol ring is the sauron one

[golden plover]

Mine is still the pride ring

That and the black is magic one

[lusty trench]

Oh I meant like in this set sorry I should've been more specific

[golden plover]

Ah yeah, the sauron and the elf ones are the two best

[lusty trench]

Kinda upset they didn't give the hobbits one of the one ring stored in Bilbo's house

[golden plover]

The one ring already has like 4 cards

[lusty trench]

I meant like a sol ring of it

Cause it feels weird that the hobbits have to use the art of sauron holding the ring in their deck for their sol ring

[golden plover]

Yeah true

It's weird because clearly a lot of detail was put into this set

But also, a LOT of corners were cut

So like half the people working on it really wanted to adapt LoTR properly

And then the other half just didn't really care

But I guess that's been kinda the Wotc mo lately

Half ass most things and randomly put effort into the rest

[lusty trench]

Me watching wotc put almost no reanimation targets in the sauron precon

No wotc, siege gang commander is not a good reanimation target

Inferno titan is not a good reanimation target either

[twilit canyon]

magic players 6 years ago would call u crazy for that

[lusty trench]

Like wotc

It's right there

It's fun

It's cheap money wise

Just give it a new lotr themed name

it shares a creature type with sauron so it actually triggers the path of ancestry you put in there despite the only creature sharing a type with sauron being saruman

[twilit canyon]

this aint about sepulchral primordial

its about them

[sudden lava]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/PByQp5nZyRuWPek2PEvTcGMpYetV_Rdpk-dBOx4Rjs0/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/Fy2ILu8WYAICLe9.jpg?width=487&height=967

found?!

[lusty trench]

It's fake, untextured

[lusty trench]

I sure do love... 3 1/1 goblins? 3 damage? In a four person game?

[sudden lava]

oh rip

[golden plover]

God we're gonna see that forever now aren't we?

Just a billion fakes

That get more and more convincing

[fallow citrus]

yep

maybe there is no real ring and it's just whatever the most convincing fake sells for the most

[copper pecan]

the real ring was the friends we made along the way

[golden plover]

I'm honestly half convinced even if there is a real one, no one is gonna see it

Remember when they shredded a shitload of stuff from standard packs and MH2 and sent it to a random Texas landfill?

There's like a decent chance that happens again and the pack contains the ring

[lusty trench]

Not even that

You just have to plant a fake one in the landfill

Don't have to hide it well or at all

Wotc can't deny it's the real one as it'd make it clear that they know where and what shipment the ring is in, and they can't make a new one to replace it otherwise they run the risk of it being a fake and there being two one rings

[golden plover]

They really didn't think this 1/1 thing through

With sports cards, they guarantee you have a certificate of authenticity included (sometimes digitally)

All this hype for a card that's gonna rot in the back of a Walmart in Tucson, Arizona

Actually, can it end up in a commander deck?

The "sample pack" is 2 random collectors boosters cards

If that's the case, there's way more products it could be randomly in and never found

[glad peak]

well time to go to tucson, arizona

[golden plover]

If you can afford to buy every collectors booster and commander deck in Tuscon, AZ, you'll have spent more than the ring is gonna be worth

[hidden ermine]

Apparently serialised cards cant appear in those (?)

[golden plover]

Can they not?

Huh, I figured they were just randomly inserted into the sheets, and the collectors booster sheet is used for the sample card

Either way, point is the 1/1 ring will likely never be found

And if it does, it's probably gonna be found by SCG or similar

[sleek ferry]

Nah it makes sense for the sample pack stuff to be separate

If it was in a random sample pack though I would guarantee that shit would end up in a landfill

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-chocolate-golden-ticket-gif-12373721

the one ring ^

[sleek ferry]

My wife said the same thing lol

“Oh did Brazil Willy Wonka you guys?”

[zinc shard]

bruh

AHHHHH

[trail anvil]

damn that's the crit

[sudden lava]

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/Ijysi2GaHHQ

[twilit canyon]

i wanna know

who the fuck plays kroxa blast zone

[trail anvil]

why ever play blast zone in a deck with heavy removal lol

are they triggered by spirits or something, when you're supposed to have threats on curve anyways

[rigid scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PLxLe3ktmQ&ab_channel=8thPlaceDave

[trail anvil]

man calim is such a perfect card for control the more I see it

cycling, tapping and providing a wincon all in one

[waxen timber]

I hate the mentality of MTG finance bro. "All of the cards that you need to play the game are cheap. The price is all in aesthetic stuff like serialized cards. Oh no, this is so bad."

The set still contains enough value for vendors to buy it and there seems to be a good supply of the cards reaching the market. It just seems silly to complain about the accesibility of the set.

[meager isle]

$430 for a box? Holy shit of course you lose value. They were $300 preorder before all this hype so pulling $240 worth of cards if anything seems average. He juts overpayed on the hype price.

[sleek ferry]

https://twitter.com/saffronolive/status/1670747514197139456?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Saffron Olive (@SaffronOlive)

Had an interesting conversation at SCG Baltimore about which of these cards is better in Modern. Overall it's probably meta dependent, but right now I'm coming around to the idea it's probably Cast Into the Fire.

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Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 10:57 AM

Thoughts @twilit canyon @clever sun ?

[clever sun]

Cast is better right now

[lusty trench]

Wizards banned all proxies in my lgs

Lmao

[golden plover]

Man that sucks

[lusty trench]

They're still selling 30th anniversary proxies though here

Because of course

[meager isle]

Aren’t proxies not allowed for play anyways?

[golden plover]

The official ruling is only not in tournaments

And you're allowed exceptions there

[waxen timber]

Was there just an announcement or something?

[golden plover]

If I'd have to guess it's probably because more and more people are just proxying everything in EDH

(Because you have to to keep up if you're not spending $3k a deck)

[lusty trench]

Someone reported our lgs for the staff encouraging and selling proxies (they don't at all) and now the store is banned from any proxies being played at all

[golden plover]

I mean, technically they do

[meager isle]

Salty players crying about their RL cards they “invested” in

[golden plover]

I've literally had that happen when I've played proxies at stores I'm not used to

I'll join the high power tables, they'll play shit like Gaea's Cradle and duals and then I'll play a proxy and they go "man you're ruining the game. You shouldn't be able to just print off the best cards"

Right so I've gotta spend too much money to buy them. I see

[clever sun]

You're not just able to afford a Cradle?

What are you? Poor?

[sleek ferry]

Yes

Give me like 3 months though, I’ll be making 6 figures by then

And I still won’t buy a cradle

[trail anvil]

time to make a cradle that has the downside of losing 1 life so it's not a direct reprint

[meager isle]

Lose 1 life then gain 1 life

[lusty trench]

Welp my partner found out cauldron familiar goes infinite with samwise and a sac outlet

[twilit canyon]

yea thats not new tech

its just unknown if it does anything outside historic

[copper pecan]

is [[viscera seer]] legal in modern?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/158/viscera-seer

Viscera Seer <:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Vampire Wizard
Sacrifice a creature: Scry 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.)
In matters of life and death, he trusts his gut.
1/1

[copper pecan]

if so i feel like there's gotta be something there

this is an infinite you can do in just 3 turns with only 3 cards if you have the right fixing

and given that this is modern that isn't that hard to do

[twilit canyon]

it is legal yes

u also have carrion feeder

[dense berry]

3 card combos are weak to a lot

[fallow citrus]

could you not just [[blood artist]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/70/blood-artist

Blood Artist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Vampire
Whenever Blood Artist or another creature dies, target player loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
"Vanya Falkenrath's paintings are astonishing. How does she manage to achieve such rich crimson hues?" —Stefan, art critic
0/1

[fallow citrus]

or whatever yawg uses

[twilit canyon]

no need

[fallow citrus]

oh yeah

[twilit canyon]

cat does the win

[dense berry]

like thoughtseize, removal, countermagic etc

[fallow citrus]

i forgor

[twilit canyon]

it is an issue to 3 card combo tho

thats why i said unknown if it does anything outside historic

cus historic is the only format where sacrifice is a decent deck still

[fallow citrus]

you get to slot it in some asmo decks though

you can just use finale to fish out a missing piece

which you're playing to grab asmo anyway

but we're flying a bit too close to the aspiringspike sun here

[meager isle]

breach combo plays grinding station so I guess there is a shell

[twilit canyon]

even then tho breach combo kinda fell off to fair breach

[meager isle]

yea it completely dissappeared lol

[sleek ferry]

Is cauldron not legal in alchemy too?

[twilit canyon]

nope

[sleek ferry]

Ah shame

I’m actually really fucking sad just like mudkip, that a lot of the food synergies are commander only

[copper pecan]

cauldron technically is legal in alchemy if you get really lucky with [[cursebound witch]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ymid/24/cursebound-witch

Cursebound Witch <:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Warlock
When Cursebound Witch dies, draft a card from Cursebound Witch's spellbook.
1/2

[copper pecan]

both the cat and the oven are in the spellbook

[zinc shard]

Draft Token, get your Draft Token here

[twilit canyon]

draft token day lets gooo

[sleek ferry]

smh i never have enough gold for these

[sleek ferry]

@twilit canyon you got a budget list using some of the new lotr stuff? any format will do

[twilit canyon]

not yet

i havent played any lotr stuff i was still at work

[meager isle]

It’s a shame I’m only interested in like 5 cards

[sleek ferry]

https://youtu.be/vEqasvPxEks

[sudden lava]

anyone remember which game knight episode had the card wedding ring in it?

[twilit canyon]

[[prince imrahil the fair]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/219/prince-imrahil-the-fair

Prince Imrahil the Fair <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble
Whenever you draw your second card each turn, create a 1/1 white Human Soldier creature token.
"The Lord Aragorn I hold to be my liege lord, whether he claim it or no. His wish is to me a command."
2/2

[twilit canyon]

this guy curves super fucking nicely with skystrike officer

[fallow citrus]

[[skystrike officer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/bro/62/skystrike-officer

Skystrike Officer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Soldier
Flying
Whenever Skystrike Officer attacks, create a 1/1 colorless Soldier artifact creature token.
Tap three untapped Soldiers you control: Draw a card.
"Landing zone is clear. Activate and deploy!"
2/3

[meager isle]

[[sky strike officer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/bro/62/skystrike-officer

Skystrike Officer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Soldier
Flying
Whenever Skystrike Officer attacks, create a 1/1 colorless Soldier artifact creature token.
Tap three untapped Soldiers you control: Draw a card.
"Landing zone is clear. Activate and deploy!"
2/3

[meager isle]

Oh I lagged and didn’t see someone already call it lol

[golden plover]

New Deaths Shadow for regional champions

Qualifiers get this art

Participants get... Silumgar?

[twilit canyon]

i love him

the jat

[golden plover]

Who wanted Silumgar

[fallow citrus]

oooh

that deaths shadow fucks

[twilit canyon]

@clever sun

[clever sun]

Oooh I like that Shadow art

[golden plover]

The shadow art is sick

But you'd have to proxy it or spend like $1k for a playset

Actually probably like $4k, it's regional champs only

Oh I was way off, the Ragavan is $4k a copy

[meager isle]

Tbf ragavan is more widely used

[golden plover]

Yeah but these won't be cheap

I'd figure the shadows are $2k-$3k a copy

[golden plover]

Also why is that Offer, that's FoF???

[clever sun]

Inspired by the Jace FoF

[golden plover]

It's very much the art of FoF. Weird to see it on Offer

[fallow citrus]

I mean makes sense artwise though

cat jace gets one thing you get 2 treasures

[dense berry]

do you think the people who design secret lairs even know the lore of the game or what art they're referencing lol

[golden plover]

Sometimes they clearly do, but the offer seems like corporate meddling

I can almost guarantee it was supposed to be the bonus card for the cat lair and FoF

[lusty trench]

What even was the bonus card for that lair anyway

[golden plover]

But then they changed it for some reason

[golden plover]

Random sliver

[lusty trench]

Ah of course

[golden plover]

Can't have 5 cards in lairs or a bonus card anymore

That's just too much value for $40 (even when the lair total value was like $20 and FoF is $0.25)

[twilit canyon]

why would it be

like

???

fof has infinite reprints

offer is a new card

give it to offer

[golden plover]

It's very clearly FoF's art tho

Like the card art is 100% FoF and it's the same as the other cat cards that use the same art, but with cats

Offer getting arts is nice, but it should be an art for Offer and not a FoF art on the wrong card

[twilit canyon]

its a reference to fact or fiction

doesnt has to be fof

fact or fiction is "an offer you cant refuse"

this is very silly

not good but silly

@sleek ferry if u have the mana base for this, this deck is pretty cheap all things considered

[sleek ferry]

[[nazgul]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/100/nazgûl

Nazgûl <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Wraith Knight
Deathtouch
When Nazgûl enters the battlefield, the Ring tempts you.
Whenever the Ring tempts you, put a +1/+1 counter on each Wraith you control.
A deck can have up to nine cards named Nazgûl.
1/2

[sleek ferry]

Huh that’s interesting

[dense berry]

this is a major stretch

[twilit canyon]

its not

[copper pecan]

god i wish my computer wasn't broken so i could get the token

[zinc shard]

An Off-Purrrr you cant refuse

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/no-lafuddyduddy-spray-spraying-gif-17316641

[copper pecan]

hey does anyone know what happens if you choose a vehicle as your ringbearer and it stops being a creature?

does it continue to be the ringbearer or does the ring fall off

[twilit canyon]

no clue but i can figure it out in a bit

gut feeling is that it would stop being the bearwr

*bearer

[dense berry]

okay explain?

[twilit canyon]

fact or fiction shows u 2 piles

ur opponent is making u an offer on what to take

[dense berry]

theyre not offering you anything other than a choice

fact or fiction is no more an offer they cant refuse than any other card that presents some kind of option to the opponent

if we're talking about like The Godfather, "an offer he can't refuse" meant strong arming somebody with threats of or acts of violence, then reimbursing them a bit to keep the peace

[meager isle]

Did he use it like that?

It's been ages since I've seen it but I thought it was some guy asking for help

[dense berry]

as i recall they went to the guys estate and offered him a reasonable amount of cash for some under the table services

then when he said no they killed his horse and left him the cash

[meager isle]

wait was it to that guy?

[dense berry]

i believe so

[meager isle]

man I'm going senile

[dense berry]

something about a movie role

idk i need an excuse to rewatch the Godfather anyhow

still its quite a stretch to say FoF flavorfully portrays the same concept

[twilit canyon]

you can strongarm ppl with fof

[dense berry]

how

[twilit canyon]

wym how

the 5 cards u show

put them in piles of importance to force them to pick the more beneficial pile for urself

this is like

fof 101

[dense berry]

thats not how fof works though

[twilit canyon]

i know

how fof works

when you make the piles

you want to force your opponent to pick a pile that benefits you

[dense berry]

clearly you dont since you dont make the piles

[twilit canyon]

i know

[dense berry]

youre thinking of steam augury

[twilit canyon]

you as in

you the opponent

vs the person who is playing fof

you want to separete the piles in a way that benefits you

you want the person casting fof to make a bad choice

or a suboptimal choice

ie: they reveal a super important card for their deck. you put it alone.

or: they are mana screwed

put all lands in 1 pile

[dense berry]

that sounds more like "An Offer I Can't Refuse"

[twilit canyon]

and yet it was a result from fact or fiction

an offer you cant refuse

[dense berry]

this is some serious mental gymnastics

its okay that you didnt remember how to resolve fof there is no reason to pivot like that

[clever sun]

I think you didn't understand what Misty meant

[dense berry]

this right here

unless this was just written unreasonably poorly

[clever sun]

Yeah I understood she meant the pile you pick as an opponent

[twilit canyon]

maybe could have worded better

but that still a similar perspective

[clever sun]

This is silly in any case

[dense berry]

i will agree that steam augury is closer to an offer you cant refuse flavorfully speaking

[clever sun]

I think it's dumb to be upset or weird about art that kind of looks like FoF being used on An Offer

[dense berry]

oooh im invalid

thats not very nice

[clever sun]

What?

[dense berry]

you just called me dumb

[clever sun]

What

I said I think it's dumb to be upset about or weird about something so inconsequential

Never directly called you dumb

Or implied it. I didn't even know you were upset about it.

[dense berry]

i mean upset is a strong word

i do think its a really missed mark when it comes to flavor

but hardly the worst example in recent times

generally its not a good idea to set yourself as the determiner of the validity of something though

this is actually the worst flavor fail in my recent memory

artifact destruction / removal spell but then the flavor text is talking about birds?

[golden plover]

That one is fine. It's just saying that the original Falkenrath was a falconer and the modern line is still brutal

It's a bit of a non-sequitor but I can see what they're going for

There's way worse ones

In terms of LOTR stuff, I think [[Bombadil's Song]] is up there in terrible flavor

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/154/bombadils-song

Bombadil's Song <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Target creature you control gets +1/+1 and gains hexproof until the end of turn. The Ring tempts you. (A creature with hexproof can't be the target of spells of abilities your opponents control.)
"Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo! Ring a dong! hop along! fal lal the willow! Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!"

[golden plover]

(Bombadil feels no effects of the ring, the only reason he couldn't carry it is because he immediately got bored and forgot about it because of how ancient he is)

[atomic harness]

JACE CAT JACE CAT

[golden plover]

For purely in universe, it's gotta be [[Plargg and Nassari]] considering Nassari was compleated, died, and then got better?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mat/18/plargg-and-nassari

Plargg and Nassari <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Orc Efreet
At the beginning of your upkeep, each player exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a nonland card. An opponent chooses a nonland card exiled this way. You may cast up to two spells from among the other cards exiled this way without paying their mana costs.
5/4

[atomic harness]

how come some walkers were healed but some died or were just left compleated

[golden plover]

Random chance, who knows

Some were because of the story sake or because they're marketable

But the whole phyrexian arc was handled really poorly.

[twilit canyon]

nassari was uncompleated bc they are an efreet

[golden plover]

It took melira's life and Karn's spark to heal Ajani and Nissa, but Nahiri just woke up and she was good

Nassari was outright dead tho

[twilit canyon]

efreet are just spirits so once they popped, they just returned back to their original form

right and efreet dont just die

[golden plover]

Killian pushed them off the roof and they were dead dead

[atomic harness]

Sighmma venser I'll miss you

I thought venser was used to heal ajani and bissa

[twilit canyon]

iirc efreet can only really be killed by iron and rubies

any other death isnt permanent

[golden plover]

Nah, Venser died like 10 years ago

He gave his spark to Karn

[twilit canyon]

venser gave his spark to karn

karn then used said spark

to heal ajani and nissa

[golden plover]

The Venser in the set was a corpse

[atomic harness]

Aye misty

[golden plover]

Venser was really cool tho, he deserved better

He's also supposedly one of the strongest new walkers

Considering his spark let him control all metal

[twilit canyon]

he was ambiguously powerful but he was cool

[golden plover]

Weird how they killed the guy with complete control over metal on the metal planet

[twilit canyon]

cant be total control or else he would have been able to solo new phyrexia

[golden plover]

I mean they had said he had complete control and then backed out when it mattered

[twilit canyon]

so then it wasnt full control

[golden plover]

Although this storyline, they did the same thing with Nahiri

[atomic harness]

He was like rick

[golden plover]

There was a running plot point about because Nahiri had control over metal, she could control the compleation

But then they had her blow up and die

And then she just walked off the compleation

Honestly, the writers are super inconsistent with Nahiri

[twilit canyon]

and she lost her spark like a bozo

its fine cus fuck nahiri

easily one of the most dislikeable and awful characters they made

[dense berry]

the writers clearly dont work together

[golden plover]

See the thing is Nahiri is really interesting when done right

[dense berry]

and the company that commissions the stories doesnt care enough to check that it all adds up

[twilit canyon]

i dont see how she is super interesting tbh

[golden plover]

And I do still stand by you can at least sorta see where they were going with her revenge arc in Shadows of Innistrad

[dense berry]

nahiri was pretty cool throughout SOI

[atomic harness]

Tell em misty

[twilit canyon]

yeah genocide is something u can just see where she was going with it

[golden plover]

Because Sorin did it first on a much bigger scale

[twilit canyon]

sorin's case was neglect

nahiri was intentional

[golden plover]

Sorin ignored her cries for help because he was too busy taking care of Avacyn

It caused 1/3rd of her entire plane to get destroyed

So she said "fuck it" and killed Sorin's family

[twilit canyon]

and yet she is a kor supremacist

and we also know zendikar was totally able to survive and thrive

[golden plover]

The Emrakul thing wasn't even her going "I'm gonna genocide his plane"

[twilit canyon]

it literally was

she knew destroying avacyn would allow the eldrazi to arrive

[golden plover]

Ugin made it really clear that Emrakul was gonna break through SOMEWHERE

The choice was where

[twilit canyon]

she lured emrakul to innistrad

[copper pecan]

yeah but she deliberately lured it to a populated place

[golden plover]

And Nahiri was being a bit selfish but went "well Sorin did it to me last time, so fuck him"

[twilit canyon]

ugin and sorin and nahiri had agreed to lure her where it wouldnt hurt anyone

[copper pecan]

"a bit selfish" thousands of people died

she knew that would happen