If your goal is like to just farm up currency
#Magic the Gathering
sleek ferry
sleek ferry
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twilit canyon
this will farm u bo1 to mythic if u are good easily
inland folio
yo ik one of these cards
crazy
ik 2 of them actually
mountain
and monastery swiftspear
twilit canyon
your mountains need to come into play tapped, your creatures as well
that is the way of playing magic
sleek ferry
Speaking of, there was a 3 mana vamp from MoM that was going super hard for me during my climb
twilit canyon
the sack one?
sleek ferry
Yeah
twilit canyon
i find it painfully mid myself but its not the worst offender
sleek ferry
It stole me a lot of wins with fable
Since in a lot of situations you can do 12 unexpected damage
twilit canyon
oh u were playing some jank
twilit canyon
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Creature — Dinosaur
Trample, haste
: Rampaging Raptor gets +2/+0 until end of turn.
Whenever Rampaging Raptor deals combat damage to an opponent, it deals that much damage to target planeswalker that player controls or battle that player protects.
4/4
sleek ferry
So I found the best way was to just run mass ramp, mass battles, and just turn sideways
twilit canyon
thats some real garbage
u could be ramping to atraxa
but instead ur playing a 4/4 raptor
sleek ferry
Well we ramp to Etali at some point
rigid scarab
Today was my first time playing against Phyrexian Arena in 1v1
And it seemed
Really good?
trail anvil
uh what do you mean by 1v1
cause in stuff like brawl it's really good but in non-singleton formats it shouldn't be too amazing
rigid scarab
Drawing 2 every turn in explorer looked good in that game I played
trail anvil
drawing 2 is nice, but there is the notable downside of doing nothing the turn it comes down, and the life loss can actually matter
rigid scarab
oh no sickle is getting baited
Ren I got baited
golden plover
Man why do people have the dumbest takes in spoiler season
I just saw "that 4 mana bat that pings 1 whenever you make or kill a token is gonna be a problem in EDH"
golden plover
It's a neat card
Exactly
twilit canyon
yall
golden plover
Like what's it gonna do [[Disciple of the Vault]] wasn't already doing for 3 less?
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golden plover
I guess disciple is banned in pauper so maybe if you really want to
twilit canyon
nah
golden plover
But I don't think the disciple deck is there if you've gotta kill tokens the whole time
And it definitely can't do it for 4 mana
twilit canyon
this is around how humans look in historic rn
twilit canyon
weather the storm is cheaper but this is funnier
clever sun
They really hate. To see a storm player winning.
hidden ermine
[[Thousand-Year Storm]]
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golden plover
Actually yeah, there's no chance the bat sees play in pauper
twilit canyon
cant be copied
golden plover
Impact Tremors has been legal for years
Completely forgot that card was in the format lmao
glad peak
I just saw "that 4 mana bat that pings 1 whenever you make or kill a token is go...
i got called a cedh tryhard when someone tried to win with a emiel dockside loop and i stopped it with harsh mentor 
hidden ermine
Yeah for some reason I forgot that Storm copeis too
golden plover
i got called a cedh tryhard when someone tried to win with a emiel dockside loop...
Lmao. Honestly I love Harsh Mentor
I remember when he got revealed and people went "this card is insane in EDH"
And then no one played him
And then it turns out he's really good in EDH
glad peak
he's alright in edh, i didnt think someone would be abusing dockside in this pod but he played all the tutors and free counters so i shouldve expected it
golden plover
He's not as universally good as people thought he was
But he's really good in certain situations
Fuck now I'm trying to break impact Tremors in pauper again
I honestly think there's no way? All your enablers are banned
glad peak
you can probably add it in a more defensive boros bully shell but it's been so long since i've played pauper my idea of boros bully is probably super outdated
oh wait i'm thinking about makeshift munitions, never mind
golden plover
Yeah munitions sees play every once in a while in weird formats
Tremors has never seen play
twilit canyon
dont look a gift horse in the mouth
sudden lava
there is the smaug token
sleek ferry
glad peak
Wait what’s the significance of 14 for Smaug?
Also the saga getting any mountain card is pretty nice
copper pecan
oh my god they gave it reminder text so it could show us the meaning of haste
glad peak
I don’t know what haste does but the ring tempting me? Easily known 
granite badge
I don't know the first thing about LOTR
hidden ermine
I would hope you know its about the one ring
That would be the first thing to know
trail anvil
amazing flavor
glad peak
Then why is it called lord of the ringS? That’s plural
glad peak
I know, I’m riffing on the fact a series called lord of the rings has the one ring
Names 
sleek ferry
Really loving this deck
Some battles really shine when you run other battles alongside it
twilit canyon
yoooooo
trail anvil
god esper legends is actually just freelo
you farm soldiers so hard and you're pretty well rounded
sudden lava
oh my god they gave it reminder text so it could show us the meaning of haste
for those who didnt watch the movie/read the books
explain
oh found it
copper pecan
"show them the meaning of haste" is something someone says to shadowfax in the books
twilit canyon
still trying to find the optimal humans list
trying orzhov lurrus now
next will be esper i think
esper lurrus
fallow citrus
does historic not have champion of the parish?
twilit canyon
not yet
atomic harness
golden plover
@lusty trench remember that dumb vintage draft deck I made in forge?
Even dumber
sleek ferry
@inland folio you can use this list a reference https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-selesnya-enchantments-mid#paper
It’s also a pretty cheap deck to make outside the lands
trail anvil
https://i.redd.it/ltr-stern-scolding-v0-te606al2lk3b1.jpg?s=fc329812359a51b619240be828a0259007c077b8
holy fuck this looks good
fallow citrus
this hits so much in modern rn too it's crazy
yawg, solitude, grief, basically every aggro creature, ragavan etc
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sudden lava
birb
dense berry
good in limited
golden plover
Man of all the things legolas did to pull from, they did the kill counting thing on both cards?
copper pecan
because this isn't a commander set
hidden ermine
It might as well be
Besides that would otherwise only affect draft
Smh
Oh and why is Legolas Simic?
sudden lava
we do have partners in this set tho
golden plover
because this isn't a commander set
They can also do partner outside of commander sets
Partner With has limited terminology
Since partner with means they'd search each other
copper pecan
we do have partners in this set tho
those are in the commander decks and not the main set
golden plover
There's also a card in this set that goads
So why not just put partner on cards
(Goad doesn't have a 1v1 function)
copper pecan
goad does have a 1v1 function, it forces your opponent to attack
they probably didn't want the cards to be able to search each other
hidden ermine
Cowards
golden plover
Goad functions in 1v1 yeah, but there's no reason for it to be goad
Stuff like [[Kadur]] exist whenever they do "goad" in standard
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golden plover
[[Kardur]]?
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golden plover
The Kaldheim demon dude
hidden ermine
[[Kardur]]
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hidden ermine
[[Kardur Bane]]
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golden plover
But yeah, Legolas and Gimli having partner would have been way more flavorful than them having a weird name and doing the kill counting thing on all their cards
Both of their rares already did the kill counting thing
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golden plover
Yeah, which makes it weird they printed goad on a "1v1 focused card"
Since they either might as well have for Kardur or kept goad as commander only
hidden ermine
They dont like using keywords for 1-ofs in standard
golden plover
True, but this is also the first time they've used goad as one off
It's weird what distinctions they'll make
subtle sierra
uhhhh if adeline gives me an attacking token, shouldn't it get the buff from lightshield array in the end step?
trail anvil
[[invasion of gobakhan]]
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Battle — Siege
(As a Siege enters, choose an opponent to protect it. You and others can attack it. When it's defeated, exile it, then cast it transformed.)
When Invasion of Gobakhan enters the battlefield, look at target opponent's hand. You may exile a nonland card from it. For as long as that card remains exiled, its owner may play it. A spell cast this way costs more to cast.
Defense: 3
Lightshield Array
Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature that attacked this turn.
Sacrifice Lightshield Array: Creatures you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
The weight of Phyrexia crashed down upon Gobakhan, but the will of its people endured.
subtle sierra
didn't matter in the end cause, yeah
trail anvil
I imagine so though
hidden ermine
[[Adeline]]
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subtle sierra
game please
subtle sierra
ah ic
trail anvil
ic
inland folio
game please
This is my average hand
I feel like mtg hates me
Bc I keep having to mull down to 3-4
To get smthn semi playable
trail anvil
play rona esper legends
between her and raffine you'll cycle through your whole library 
hidden ermine
This deck is sponsored by Rona Esper Legends
trail anvil
also had literally no hits from the list
clever sun
https://i.redd.it/ltr-stern-scolding-v0-te606al2lk3b1.jpg?s=fc329812359a51b61924...
This is really good
twilit canyon
unsure if i play all 4 decks to mythic or if i do my usual 3
def picking between these 4 though
trail anvil
which deck would be cut
twilit canyon
idk yet
also im still trying to squeeze in 1 more land in that azorius list
i just dont know what
maybe verdict
sleek ferry
[[divine purge]]
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Sorcery
Exile all artifacts and creatures with mana value 3 or less. They perpetually gain "This spell costs more to cast" and "This permanent enters the battlefield tapped." For as long as each of them remain exiled, its owner may play it.
sleek ferry
Why not minus 1 divine purge or soul partition
twilit canyon
purge clears treasures and permanently deletes tokens from fable and other sources
partition is unconditional non-land removal
fallow citrus
are there any cheap decks I can just farm ladder with in standard again
twilit canyon
mono red
fallow citrus
ah sick
subtle sierra
it's good, but blue or red is prob the better choice for faster times per game
white is more control-y atm, but there is soldier stuff
fallow citrus
fallow citrus
oh that's real sick
trail anvil
monowhite is a pretty strong ladder deck but needs a ton of wildcards to my knowledge
azorius soldiers are up there but are in the same boat
sleek ferry
So now that we’ve had time to dwell on it what’s the consensus on battles?
I personally love them
copper pecan
Palantir of Orthanc 3
Legendary Artifact (Mythic)
At the beginning of your end step, put a influence counter on Palantir of Orthanc and scry 2. Then target opponent may have you draw a card. If that player doesn't, you mill X cards, where X is the number of influence counters on Palantir of Orthanc, and that player loses life equal to the total mana value of those cards.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1114484297102008351/wrptryb2or3b1.png?width=475&height=662
hidden ermine
This doesnt seem good to me
trail anvil
I think the optional part makes this pretty damn underwhelming all things considered
like being able to choose between eating the life loss or giving only 1 draw does not seem like a fantastic tradeoff
hidden ermine
I mean the draw option is strong
But your opponent will only choose it when the mill option is weaker
golden plover
They're always gonna choose the weaker mode
If you wanna mill, you'll draw. But if you wanna draw, you'll mill
trail anvil
yes that's what I said
the draw option would be decent if it was forced like arena but it's not
golden plover
Yup. Just makes it kinda suck because it's very rarely gonna be what you're trying to use it for
trail anvil
honestly I wish they priced the card up and made it draw equal to the number of counters or something
the only way I'd want to actually have this card is if I'm milling some dumb high cost stuff for cheese
but if for some godforsaken reason that became popular you'd just let them draw, and in most formats that's pretty underwhelming
actually wait it has a scry
golden plover
The scry helps, but it's still not very good
sleek ferry
Yeah idt you ever let them draw considering the free scry everytime
golden plover
You let them draw if they know you're trying to mill shit that'll kill them
sleek ferry
Tbh, I feel as if mill decks would be the only ones playing this if anything, and even then, it seems too slow
trail anvil
on second thought I wanna try this in hbrawl if this is going on arena
sleek ferry
Like what’s the last good golgari deck we’ve had
sleek ferry
Only golgari yeah
twilit canyon
i think it was golgari midrange from grn/rivals of ixalan standard
copper pecan
i remember golgari explore being really irritating to deal with
trail anvil
if you were monored, sometimes it was crazy hard
dense berry
so lotho is broken it seems
zinc shard
my man kept a no land hand
trail anvil
maybe greedy monored?
zinc shard
naw they discarded 2 Sheoldred
zinc shard
they were actively there, conceeded after turn 3 and playted the rest of the game
copper pecan
thinking about limited and how i would love to see something like an mtg version of dzeef's master roulette series
trail anvil
etali who
atomic harness
Is that standard banned superstar reckoneer bankbuster
trail anvil
yeppers
golden plover
That's 2 mana?
copper pecan
i think this genuinely might be the best anthem ever printed
golden plover
It probably is
twilit canyon
Whenever ~ or another nontoken creature enters the battlefield under your control, look at the top X cards of your library, where X is that creature’s mana value. You may reveal a creature from them that doesn’t share a creature type with a creature you control and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
kinda wish fateful strike could eat walkers
it would make it insane vs control
rigid scarab
Im gonna see lord of the rings cards absolutely everywhere in EDH tables and idk how to feel about it
golden plover
Yeah edh is gonna become more and more pop culture advertisement over time from here, unfortunately
At least the LOTR ones feel magic-y enough
rigid scarab
I'm kinda mad that they made this set so cracked
golden plover
But stuff like Assassin's Creed and Dr Who is gonna feel really jarring
At least right now the only formats you're in danger of seeing advertisements across the table are legacy, vintage, edh, and modern
rigid scarab
R&D has stated that they'll make UW versions of large UB products 'if the need arises'
I can't wait to swing at an opponent with Cloud Strife
And have it be blocked by The 11th Doctor
Buffed up by Ezio's Daggers
Is this mtg or smash bros
golden plover
"The need arises" is only in context of SL printings
So transformers, Warhammer, LotR, and Dr. who are ineligible
golden plover
Is this mtg or smash bros
Smash bros was crossover city from day 1 tho. It's more like if SF was a normal series for 30 years then randomly added the Seinfeld cast and Disney princessses to make more money
rigid scarab
"The need arises" is only in context of SL printings
SL printings were sworn to have UW versions
"The need arises" is from a Mark Rosewater tumblr post in regards to commander decks
golden plover
SL printings are the ONLY ones that get them
So far, the official decision is "if you can open it in a pack, it's not getting a printing"
rigid scarab
So far I can tell that pretty much everyone from my LGS really doesn't care about UB product
But it pains me to know that if WOTC really wants to normalise it
They can just make the UB cards insane
rigid scarab
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/o3aFVWEs4HDROME36YRYLDPiVVuKTR9VpIn...
I dont see this not being a white weenie staple for example
golden plover
Yeah most people I've talked to haven't been super into UB stuff, and a decent chunk outright dislike it, but casual players do eat it up
And the causal who is gonna buy all the decks and play them once is a big enough market they'll keep doing it
granite badge
Yeah most people I've talked to haven't been super into UB stuff, and a decent c...
personally I haven't ever bought a single secret lair or UB product
and I intend to keep it that way
golden plover
I ended up with stranger things because I bought that super drop
But I haven't sought out any of them
granite badge
the closest I got was I almost bought the Phyrexian secret lair
the $30 Phyrexian language ones
golden plover
I'll probably proxy any cards I'd wanna play with an in-universe theme (I have a proxied in-universe Vexilus Praetor in Elsha) but that only works for as long as stuff like pauper and pioneer are safe from UB
This is the Vexilus Praetor in my Elsha deck
granite badge
but I was at work when the lair dropped and I missed the window to buy it
golden plover
But I'm also a big proponent that magic remains magic in-universe and wished they stuck with the Godzilla skin concept for it
It's far too late for that now tho
lusty trench
I'm just happy the value is mostly in the rare slot
A lot of the cards are so flavourful too this set just has a lot of respect to it
There and back again has a spot in my dragon edh deck because it's so well done
golden plover
Yeah I do think the designers of the ub stuff do at least care about capturing the properties the right way
But I don't know if they would have added this kinda stuff, if it wasn't for corporate trying to make the game more of a platform that makes money
lusty trench
This was always going to happen, if you can try to make your game appeal to more markets or cater to fans in your existing market in a way that gets them to spend more. It's sad but it's also how the machine works. Considering how the universe's beyond stuff could've gone (and thank the lord the reaction to the walking dead one was bad enough they've added reprints in universes within), I don't think this was awfully done
The main thing about it is if this would be what Tolkien wanted, which I'm unsure of because I don't know much about him beyond his works
And even then, just the Percy Jackson movies
Peter not Percy
golden plover
Nah Tolkien would be pissed if he saw what his grandson was doing with his estate rn
His grandson is licensing out LOTR to anyone ever and it's leading to the flood of shitty LOTR stuff
lusty trench
Did Tolkien have control over his properties while he was still alive or was that given to a board to handle at some point?
golden plover
He had full control while alive
His son also had full control while alive
Which is why notably, it was so hard to get the LOTR movies
Christopher Tolkien, the son in charge of his estate, was selected because he cared about his dad's work and edited them, including posthumously releasing the silmarilion
He died in 2020 and the estate went to his son, who has no care for the material other than making a quick buck
That's where we are now with Rings of Power, Lord of Ring: Gollum, and to a lesser extent the MTG set
lusty trench
I see
fallow citrus
Wasn't rings of power specifically because they could not get the licenses they needed that it ended up so bad
golden plover
So expect to see a lot more quick lotr cash grabs
golden plover
Wasn't rings of power specifically because they could not get the licenses they ...
The son doesn't have the rights to the silmarilion, yeah
He was only left his grandpa's stuff, not his dad's
So there's all this expanded lore no one can use
lusty trench
All I remember about rings of power was the rock smashing contest because that was cool
golden plover
Rings of Power wanted to use the silmarilion since it's a time period before LOTR and the hobbit, but couldn't and was forced to write around it using the footnotes from lotr
I'm actually not sure why he doesn't have the rights to the silmarilion
But it's a weird situation
Oh okay so apparently when he was forced to sell the rights to Rankin Bass in the 70s, it sorta created a split and everything that came out after that is considered different
Someone else involved in the estate has the Silmarillion rights and they're respecting Tolkien's wishes
lusty trench
That's honestly really nice of them
golden plover
Yup
Sucks the grandson isn't doing the same for the rest of the books
But it's nice at least one of his family members is respectful about it
His son was strict about where the rights went after the 70s, hence why he only gave them to Peter Jackson
lusty trench
This on an enchantment is huge
lusty trench
If y'all had to proxy an existing dragon into smaug who would it be
sudden lava
anyone have the card for shagrat? Mtg spoiler put the wrong image there
lusty trench
sudden lava
ty
golden plover
sudden lava
so shagrat is a voltron commander that makes a back up token that snowballs 
broken fjord
Shagrat can equip opponent's stuff too. That's neat
fallow citrus
https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Shelob-Child-of-Ungolian...
also like
are any spiders worth playing lmao
lusty trench
People did it when ishkanhath first came out iirc
fallow citrus
why tho
lusty trench
People love forcing tribals
rigid scarab
https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Shelob-Child-of-Ungolian...
Ok this is top notch flavour
I may want to make spider tribal
You would basically need to turn your spiders into pingers
Somehow
Or have it fight stuff ig
lusty trench
I'm just happy nissa gets a new card this set
rigid scarab
[[Chainweb Aracnir]] is an allstar in a Shelob deck it looks like
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Creature — Spider
Reach
When Chainweb Aracnir enters the battlefield, it deals damage equal to its power to target creature with flying an opponent controls.
Escape—
, Exile four other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
Chainweb Aracnir escapes with three +1/+1 counters on it.
1/2
rigid scarab
Wait
Only flying
Uh
NEW ANTI-FLYING CEDH TECH???
Shelob just looks like Fight Spiders
Which is cool
I just need to find where the food synergy comes in
Oh right
Aetherflux
fallow citrus
time to throw in asmo and cookbook for the deck
dense berry
https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Shelob-Child-of-Ungolian...
a spider without reach
sudden lava
true
twilit canyon
its solid
dense berry
aggressive
golden plover
It's by far the best anthem ever printed
dense berry
idk tempered steel is still pretty insane
copper pecan
[[sylvan anthem]] is pretty strong but other than that yeah this is the best anthem
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golden plover
Sylvan anthem also only hits green creatures
dense berry
yes but there are more 0cmc artifact duders than leggos
golden plover
This hits EVERYTHING
dense berry
your feasible curves with this are not nearly as insane as a tempered steel midroll
just comparing the standard iteration back in the day they were dropping memnite, ornithopter, signal pest, opal, glint hawk then untapping into a temp steel
twilit canyon
buffs everything yes but
who cares
its not a creature
it gives no bonus to everything like [[coppercoat vanguard]]
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Creature — Human Soldier
Each other Human you control gets +1/+0 and has ward 
. (Whenever it becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays .)
It was a time for rebuilding, but first Ikoria's wrecked cities had to be cleared of monsters.
2/2
twilit canyon
it doesnt just put counters as a form of permanent power buff like lieutenant
it doesnt turn your board into force spikes
it doesnt give kicker g draw to all your creatures
it doesnt impulse draws every time one of your dudes dies
anthems are bad unless they are lords. its why no anthem sees play unless its like wedding announcement
optional makes a 6/6 worth of stats or a 4/4 draw 1 or a 2/2 draw 2 or a draw 3
sleek ferry
Ngl
I’m having way more fun with explorer than standard rn
White being such a dominant color in the standard meta rn is really annoying
Not pre hitting esper legends/mono white aggro even a little was a mistake
sleek ferry
Would be nice if the other half of the spirits weren’t in blue
lusty trench
Best spirit commanders are blue white too so can't even put it in the 99
sleek ferry
Yep, it might be lore accurate and such, but it’s off as a spirit commander
lusty trench
Might be good enough to shift spirits to white black but you'd lose a ton of good spirits
lusty trench
I'm not gonna lie
I might build this as a commander
The black spirits abilities are cool
sudden lava
surely this will also get a couple spirits in the set as well
sleek ferry
Some off color stuff is cool I just don’t think there’s enough here to make it work
It reminds me of the mardu enchantment matters commander from CL1
I forgot his name
[[ghen]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
, 
, Sacrifice an enchantment: Return target enchantment card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
"Any apprentice with a spellbook and two sticks can churn out a fireball. This is different. This is art."
2/3
lusty trench
surely this will also get a couple spirits in the set as well
We've got one so far in the form of a saga and it's underwhelming
sleek ferry
Actually I might build ghen for locals
fallow citrus
I love watching ThrabenU drown in the sauce lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xtRiRVJT5Q
atomic harness
You said it caster
trail anvil
jesus this looks annoying to deal with lol
sounds perfect for hbrawl though where people are obsessed with removal tribal
twilit canyon
hit by verdict
nah but fr i do agree it can be an annoying card to beat but thats good actually
this has a small chance at working in modern
which im kinda glad
atomic harness
clever sun
Mardu for sure no?
trail anvil
shame it's not blue, march of swirling mists would be hilarious with this card
play esper spirits for fun
twilit canyon
mardu but im def thinking orzhov 1st
sudden lava
You may look at top of your library any time.
You may cast creature spells from top of your library
Creatures you control have tap for mana of any colour
fallow citrus
Oh that is cool
lusty trench
Introducing the world's strangest landfall trigger
fallow citrus
what's so strange about it
golden plover
That one is definitely really clunky
Gonna be awkward for new players
Landfall, but only if you haven't been tempted by the ring or if your ring bearer died
fallow citrus
oh does rings tempt you not work like a dungeon where if needs to tempt you multiple times to progress
fallow citrus
Not the most unrealistic thing ever
lusty trench
No but just kind of an odd decision
golden plover
It's not super weird, but there's a lot of times it misses a trigger
And also note the ring emblem is tracked separate
fallow citrus
Guess they thought ring tempts you like 2+ times a turn on one card might be too good
golden plover
It's weirdly clunky
lusty trench
If it was just ring tempts you landfall it'd go straight into nissa
Oh wait nevermind I just remembered the ring abilities are combat focused
twilit canyon
itd be broken if it could trigger multiple times
fallow citrus
I need to remind myself what tempting does tbh
golden plover
Would it tho? The ring abilities kinda feel underwhelming as is
It'd be way better but you basically just get an unlockable looter iirc
fallow citrus
If you could speedrun to 4 it'd be insane
3 makes it so you can never make a favourable block against a ringbearer ever
twilit canyon
speedrun to make a single dude a monster of a combatant or keep swapping creatures
its too free on landfall
remember how initiative was broken in legacy by just having it on a 3 drop
golden plover
Lmao we can get a 6 mana 8/8 with all upside, but the kraken has to be 5 mana and still can't untap for 9 turns
twilit canyon
blue never supposed to get good creatures
sleek ferry
tbf, the tentacle dying does untap it
and then makes something not untap on your opponent's field
twilit canyon
needs to draw during opponents turn
twilit canyon
so 2 things there
u need a cantrip or draw on opponents turn
then the tentacle needs to die
then it stuns an opponents nonland
atomic harness
blue never supposed to get good creatures
true kid
sleek ferry
speaking of blue not getting good creatures
is djinn usable anywhere besides standard?
twilit canyon
nope
golden plover
Wait guys I solved it [[Vampire Hexmage]]
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golden plover
We did it, we finally broke hexmage
twilit canyon
we broke hexmage ages ago
golden plover
That was the joke
twilit canyon
[[invasion of ikoria]]
golden plover
Hexmage breaks a lot of things that track counters
sleek ferry
zilortha is so good if it swings
twilit canyon
the elf mechanic this set is scry
rigid scarab
Its like
A red toxic deluge
So a shittier toxic deluge
But then it adds on the treasure token effect
Which is nuts
golden plover
Yeah it's literally red meathook
rigid scarab
Thats a good way to put it
golden plover
And that lingering treasure gen is gonna be silly
fallow citrus
idk what that format is
dense berry
Introducing the world's strangest landfall trigger
proof of terrible design tbh
good thing her p/t is on par
the ring tempts you is a mechanic that isnt even out yet and im eager to forget about it
twilit canyon
ok card i guess
its too safe
but it makes sense since this is going into modern
and hammer time doesnt need more tools
copper pecan
this is gonna be huge in alchemy for sure
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Artifact
When Staff of the Storyteller enters the battlefield, create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
Whenever you create one or more creature tokens, put a story counter on Staff of the Storyteller.
, , Remove a story counter from Staff of the Storyteller: Draw a card.
fallow citrus
seems interesting
twilit canyon
gets 2 effects with a wizard in play
deals 5 so it kill shelly
very very solid
it also can beat chalice
which some ppl are starting to play into wizards
lusty trench
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556358048843694080/1115747615158583306/1p...
You got a link to this video I can have pls?
lusty trench
Heck
copper pecan
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556358048843694080/1115747615158583306/1p...
dang this three for ones your opponent
very powerful
twilit canyon
blow up shelly and a treasure
or blow up shelly and draw 2
blow up shelly and chalice on 2
blow up shelly and chalice on 1
copper pecan
lusty trench
copper pecan
remember when white was bad at ard draw in edh
twilit canyon
greatest number of artifacts an opponent controls
twilit canyon
the damage trigger will never resolve but fuck
its a cedh meta breaker
for sure
i love it
lusty trench
the damage trigger will never resolve but fuck
It makes them sac treasures
twilit canyon
ik thats what i mean
lusty trench
Ah my b
fallow citrus
imagine if it had flash too
twilit canyon
likely too good if it did
fallow citrus
What the hell is mythril coat
it's a hint to play exile removal
sudden lava
I love how pretty much every hobbit card is food
atomic harness
is that fact or fiction 2 
lusty trench
If it doesn't let you sort the piles it's sadly always gonna be worse, but this is very reasonable compared to what they usually do yeah
twilit canyon
found where all the solid cards are at
lusty trench
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375323835916091393/1115787889129820310/...
yo what
twilit canyon
[[oath of nissa]]
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sudden lava
oath of nissa 2
lusty trench
This lets you keep the cards on top if you want to but hits less... But still, definitely not bad and has good synergy with the other elf cards
hidden ermine
Its a less good, but more interesting FoF Id say
There was a card like it, uhh
[[Atreus the doom oracle]]
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Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, you gain 2 life.
Foretell (During your turn, you may pay and exile this card from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)
"Giants and monsters loom on the horizon, and the elves plan to murder our gods!"
3/2
hidden ermine
[[Atris oracle of half-truths]]
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hidden ermine
Oh this one only looks at 3
twilit canyon
atris is worse by a fair bit
hidden ermine
But yeah this is just for reference for this kinda effect
It has interesting play patterns and there is a bit of mindgame to it
twilit canyon
i think its solid
the worst thing it is, is 3 mana instant speed divination
or your best card out of the top 4
or draw 3
atomic harness
I'm sold on it
Misty do people ever play subtlety
I think I've seen every elemental but it from the modern yter I watch
aside from that one time he played it himself on this days undoing meme deck
golden plover
Ya know, I'm playing a Rakdos Sac deck in MTG forge's "story mode" and [[Vexing Devil]] is growing on me
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golden plover
If nothing else, it's sorcery speed bolt for 4
sudden lava
what does devour do again?
lusty trench
You sacrifice something, and it gets that many +1+1 counters
So this is a 2 mana 5/5 with evasion if you sac a food
trail anvil
sounds like it curves out really well with golden goose
clever sun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556358048843694080/1115789229319004292/y1...
Wow this is solid
clever sun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556358048843694080/1115747615158583306/1p...
Wizards gaming
atomic harness
My friend is interested to play mtg and is eyeing the Riders of Rohan jeskai precon
do we know anything about that yet?
oh I guess we know the commander
lusty trench
My friend is interested to play mtg and is eyeing the Riders of Rohan jeskai pre...
Let them proxy up rick from walking dead
That card should not be £50
sudden lava
any openings of the food and fellowship @lusty trench ?
lusty trench
I'm just gonna link this
Scroll down to the commander section
If it cares about gaining life or food, it's in the commander deck
sudden lava
ty
burnt relic
based
sudden lava
get to run 1 of each art 
dense berry
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/556358048843694080/1115789229319004292/y1...
this one is very good
better than fof 100%
lusty trench
why are people listing the one ring for £30 on preorder
I get preorder prices are crazy
but its literally free in the bundle
fallow citrus
how much is the bundle
golden plover
Ghalta was like $12 from the preorder
Also free in every bundle
And not a very good card
sleek ferry
considering it's a modern set, bundles should be $60 prob
I'd be surprised if it was cheaper
golden plover
They're $30 usually
golden plover
Wait what
lusty trench
golden plover
Why'd they randomly add $20?
sleek ferry
They're $30 usually
They raised the price of bundles during innistrad to $40-45 iirc
This was part of the price hike
That happened to commander decks also
golden plover
It really has
I can't find any modern commander decks for less than $50 except some of the shitty ones (New Capenna)
atomic harness
Goated
copper pecan
i'm glad affinity is deciduous now so we can start getting all sorts of wacky affinities
trail anvil
isn't this actually insane?
for decks like phoenix you just load the graveyard hard with cantrips and put an even steeper clock on an already pretty fast one
golden plover
Seems solid
sudden lava
yeah
twilit canyon
if anyone needs a list for the historic pauper event
arcanist? is that u
this some real gy hate right here
solid uncommon land
sudden lava
escape is blue so you can use it with the retired burglar version, but not the birthday one
apparently this was revealed or leaked or something
sleek ferry
stone of erect is sick
fallow citrus
https://preview.redd.it/otdiec61hm4b1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabl...
how many just upstart goblins actually are in magic
last glen
I'm pretty sure there are no "cantrip for a slight advantage to your opponent" cards
last glen
would you play a no mana cost cantrip in Magic
waxen timber
Yes. It is so broken that it is limited in vintage and banned in most other formats
[[Gitatian Probe]]
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Sorcery
(
can be paid with either 
or 2 life.)
Look at target player's hand.
Draw a card.
"My flesh holds no secrets, monster. The spirit of Mirrodin will fight on." —Vy Covalt, Mirran resistance
twilit canyon
yup
it is actually just banned in every format except edh and restricted in vintage
inland folio
What does “the ring tempts you” mean/do
sudden lava
What does “the ring tempts you” mean/do
sudden lava
Gastrodon posting only 1 half of the mechanic 
uses a grass move on gastrodon
copper pecan
i feel like ring is gonna be a decent deck in alchemy but probably not anywhere else
rigid scarab
This is the most Food-centric set I've seen
sudden lava
This is the most Food-centric set I've seen
that's because the food-centric cards are all collectively part of one theme
hobbits
and they eat a LOT
sleek ferry
If only they would make that 1 golgari food commander usable
trail anvil
another hpauper deck if you want quick wins
this deck has consistency, lifegain, tempo and evasion, what's not to love
twilit canyon
no ephemerate 
trail anvil
tfw upshifted 
fallow citrus
[[cloudshift]]
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fallow citrus
oh yeah cloudshift is just ephemerate without returning
clever sun
https://preview.redd.it/gjd4694iam4b1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabl...
It's a Slapcaster but it sucks 😭
I was lowkey hoping that Glamdring would deal damage to creatures on attack
rigid scarab
If only they would make that 1 golgari food commander usable
wdym Shelob goes crazy
twilit canyon
sleek ferry
[[shelob]]
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atomic harness
[[Shelob Child of Ungoliant]]
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Legendary Creature — Spider Demon
Deathtouch, ward
Other Spiders you control have deathtouch and ward .
Whenever another creature dealt damage this turn by a Spider you controlled dies, create a token that's a copy of that creature, except it's a Food artifact with ", , Sacrifice this artifact: You gain 3 life," and it loses all other card types.
8/8
atomic harness
@twilit canyon @clever sun
rigid scarab
https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/230/shelob-child-of-ungoliant
See
Goes crazy
Slap on some ping equipment and your good to go
golden plover
Ya know, the one ring thing might legit end with a murder in an LGS tbh
It's pretty common for people to hover near people opening packs, even if they don't know them, and especially for the new set
If someone opens the ring in an LGS, they're getting robbed
sleek ferry
it's very likely
that the one ring will be opened by an unaware person
and never see the market
golden plover
I dunno, it's collectors boosters only
I highly doubt it's not gonna immediately recognized as value
But if it's opened by an unaware person in an LGS it's gonna be even worse
copper pecan
my prediction is that it's just gonna lie in an unopened pack for years and nobody will have it
golden plover
True. That or a cousin of a wotc exec opens it and sells it off to post malone or whatever for good pr
I can't see it getting opened by a regular random person, but if it does, that dude is fucked
Actually could see SCG opening it day -2 when they open 500 collectors boxes for singles
Yeah.... That's probably gonna happen
sleek ferry
It's going to be the most expensive single card ever
so that's going to be interesting
golden plover
Not if I have anything to say about it
I wonder if there's any fake protection methods
There didn't seem to be
lusty trench
Might have textured foiling on the engraved bits
golden plover
Nah, we've already seen the video of it
It's got basically halo foil but it's flat otherwise
I would hope there's counterfeit protection
But this is also wotc we're talking about
All they care about is that people play the lottery for the ring. It doesn't technically hold any value so they don't care what happens after
The smartest thing would be to replace the token slot so a verification card or something
twilit canyon
<@480437470870110209> <@970847564121395250> <:pensivecowboybread:737367263635570...
hes fine
clever sun
<@480437470870110209> <@970847564121395250> <:pensivecowboybread:737367263635570...
Agree that he's fine because he's beatable and midrange being good is a good thing for a format
atomic harness
clever sun
Feels like people complaining about Crucias want control/aggro to take over or combo hell to happen
copper pecan
i wouldn't be surprised if people were extra harsh about crucias because he's an alchemy card
atomic harness
i wouldn't be surprised if people were extra harsh about crucias because he's an...
oh yeah for sure a lot of the stigma is from this looking at the comments
broken/overtuned alchemy card that if you dont have instant removal is guaranteed to plus
seems to be the consensus
"I stopped playing historic because of crucias"
"digital cards killed historic" etc
others were saying that he's very good but fine, more so that the rakdos shell itself is the problem
twilit canyon
its not even tho
rakdos isnt the undisputed best deck
its kethis
kethis is running 0 alchemy cards unless u wanna run reezug
but its an optional pick
atomic harness
They were malding about this green alchemy card do you know what it is by any chance
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twilit canyon
i cant think of any green alchemy card thats that good otherwise
copper pecan
from what i can tell it's pretty much only super competitive players who get mad about alchemy stuff and barely anyone else cares
now that i think about it that's probably why explorer is the least popular competitive format on arena
it's main selling point over historic is something that most players don't care about and the ones who do care about it would rather be playing pioneer instead so you end up with a format that appeals to barely anyone
even alchemy has more players than explorer does
also reading the thread i'm pretty sure the card that person was malding about was [[rothga]] which is hilarious because that card is terrible in historic
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copper pecan
[[rothga, bonded engulfer]]
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atomic harness
also reading the thread i'm pretty sure the card that person was malding about w...
I was trying so hard to find the comment but couldnt, what did they say?
copper pecan
it was about a green creature with a boon effect
they were complaining about it being "doable in paper" even though it isn't
atomic harness
this doesnt look that good either
copper pecan
and even if it was it would be really irritating to remember triggers that could have happened multiple turns ago
twilit canyon
from what i can tell it's pretty much only super competitive players who get mad...
not even fully comp players
a lot of them are mythic % andy that fail to understand why their unoptimized historic decks dont climb even though they avoid using the alchemy/digital cards that are good
azorius control needs calim and divine purge for example
atomic harness
[[calim]] [[divine purge]]
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Sorcery
Exile all artifacts and creatures with mana value 3 or less. They perpetually gain "This spell costs more to cast" and "This permanent enters the battlefield tapped." For as long as each of them remain exiled, its owner may play it.
twilit canyon
[[calim, djinn emperor]]
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Legendary Creature — Djinn Noble
Flying, ward
Calim's Breath — , Discard Calim: Tap up to one target nonland permanent. Draw a card. Then you may exile two other cards named Calim, Djinn Emperor from your graveyard. When you do, return Calim, Djinn Emperor from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
When you discard Calim, conjure a card named Calim, Djinn Emperor into your library seventh from the top.
5/6
twilit canyon
kethis the only deck that can get away with not playing any digital cards
even then, intentionally avoiding them is wrong
copper pecan
me when i complain about the meta while refusing to use cards that can help me win
twilit canyon
not a true competitive player
like actually
that defeats the definition of a spike
i think explorer not being that hot also doesnt help it
anything u can play in explorer u can do in historic and better
twilit canyon
gives fynn deathtouch deathtouch
rigid scarab
I dont think the one ring outdoes Honus Wagner
fallow citrus
me when I see the stones
rigid scarab
Absolutely flooding this with legendaries
Reprints include
[[Combat Celebrant]]
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[[Shared Animosity]]
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rigid scarab
[[Vanquisher's Banner]]
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[[Supreme Verdict]]
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copper pecan
ganondorf 
lusty trench
ganondorf <:pogofgreed:562491300432314369>
Hey at least gandalf didn't spread crack to the Goron community
rigid scarab
Also Brian and Olivia are in fucking
Elf cosplays
Green Inkshield
YO
6 MANA FOR A WORSE ETERNAL WITNESS
copper pecan
you fool, this is 6 mana for a better colossal dreadmaw
lusty trench
each opponent not each player