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golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:09 AM

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[[Winter Orb]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 21, 2022, 4:09 AM

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https://scryfall.com/card/ema/234/winter-orb?utm_source=discord

Winter Orb <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
As long as Winter Orb is untapped, players can't untap more than one land during their untap steps.
"How could anyone survive this? There is some force at work that stifles even the will to go on." —Naromin, veteran explorer

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:09 AM

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You have so many more mana sources in commander

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:09 AM

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This is 1000x better if your goal is to shut down lands

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:09 AM

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[[humiliation]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 21, 2022, 4:09 AM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/193/humiliate?utm_source=discord

Humiliate <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Target opponent reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. Put a +1/+1 counter on a creature you control.
"Aw, what's that? No comeback?"

polar lake Nov 21, 2022, 4:09 AM

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nah i already have a commander deck that does that

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Zozu

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:09 AM

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Zozu doesn’t shut down lands, it just hurts you

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Try playing winter orb urza

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:10 AM

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Limited Resources gives everyone too much to work with

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5 lands is usually plenty

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:10 AM

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They only untap 1, you untap everything

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:10 AM

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Winter Orb is giving you 1 per turn, unless you're wasting turns

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:10 AM

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[[humility]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 21, 2022, 4:10 AM

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https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/16/humility?utm_source=discord

Humility <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
All creatures lose all abilities and have base power and toughness 1/1.
"One cannot cleanse the wounds of failure." —Karn, silver golem

polar lake Nov 21, 2022, 4:11 AM

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golden plover 5 lands is usually plenty

but usually theres gonna be 10 lands on the entire board in like 2 or 3 turns in commander

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:11 AM

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3 lands is plenty

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:11 AM

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Yeah, but then you're giving the player who already has the most lands the advantage

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And if you're playing that, it's probably not you

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:11 AM

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2 is where you want to play mana rocks, there are enough 1 and 0 cost rocks, and you only need 3 mana to win

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:11 AM

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Unless you're specifically in like bant enchantress or whatever

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Is there even a good bant enchantress commander

polar lake Nov 21, 2022, 4:12 AM

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you can always karn lock

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:12 AM

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Requires too much in commander

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You can’t search up lattice with Karn in commander

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:13 AM

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Oh lmao he's going "yeah I know what I did might be considered cheating, I'm not denying that" in the thread now

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He's still claiming it was only the CoCos tho

polar lake Nov 21, 2022, 4:13 AM

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whats happening on the outside?

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:13 AM

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That costs too much money, wizards would never spend more than 0.0000001 cents per card

polar lake Nov 21, 2022, 4:14 AM

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isnt that just foil double faced cards?

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they still curl too

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:14 AM

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Yeah but they can advertise those

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:14 AM

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polar lake whats happening on the outside?

Someone was cheating on camera and he’s trying to make it about him getting banned due to wotc printing a card whose foils are too curled

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 4:15 AM

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wouldn't foiling the back also make it marked though

polar lake Nov 21, 2022, 4:15 AM

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glad peak Someone was cheating on camera and he’s trying to make it about him getting bann...

like caught in 4k literal cheating?

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:15 AM

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Not if all your foils do it

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Actually not at all

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:15 AM

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polar lake like caught in 4k literal cheating?

Like twitch stream for the entire world to see literal cheating

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:15 AM

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Playing something like a foil Valki in your deck isn't considered cheating

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As long as your cards are sleeved

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 4:16 AM

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polar lake like caught in 4k literal cheating?

he made a move that only made sense if he knew information that he couldn't have possibly known without cheating

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he would have had to have known what he was about to draw during his next draw step

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:18 AM

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copper pecan he made a move that only made sense if he knew information that he couldn't have...

He has somewhat plausible deniability here, a simple slip of the mind that caused him to forget to use it at the right time, but that combined with the card choices with the foils is sussy af

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:18 AM

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Yup. That + it being only the CoCos you can split too is good enough to assume intent for cheating

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 4:19 AM

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golden plover Not if all your foils do it

well you'd need to have the foiled back for non-foil cards too
or mandate sleeves for all events

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:20 AM

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They do mandate sleeves

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Iirc at least

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:20 AM

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Sleeves are already mandated

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There's plenty of double sided cards as is

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:20 AM

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lusty trench He has somewhat plausible deniability here, a simple slip of the mind that cause...

No he doesn’t, if it slipped his mind, he would’ve played it main phase where almost every card is played, not upkeep, where it feels weird to play in

polar lake Nov 21, 2022, 4:21 AM

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imo double sided cards were kind of a mistake... but if it weren't for double sided cards, we wouldn't have werewolves

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:21 AM

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Yeah upkeep CoCo is weird as shit if you don't know the topdeck

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:21 AM

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He definitely knew what he was going to draw

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:21 AM

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glad peak No he doesn’t, if it slipped his mind, he would’ve played it main phase where al...

He could've realised right after untap if he untapped anything, and then gone "oh shit, I should've Coco"

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I'm not saying it's a great argument

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:21 AM

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You only upkeep CoCo if you know you're drawing into something and don't wanna lose it

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:21 AM

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I'm just saying it's possible

glad peak Nov 21, 2022, 4:21 AM

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That wouldn’t have gone through his head because he was tapped out the turn before

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:21 AM

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Which is possible in some decks. Like Bant Spirits when that was a thing

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:22 AM

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glad peak That wouldn’t have gone through his head because he was tapped out the turn befo...

Ah I see

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:22 AM

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Sometimes you'd scry, know your draw, then wait to CoCo

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But he's on Angels, and not Bant Spirits

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:22 AM

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Ive yet to see the footage linked so I was assuming the play was available before hand

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 4:22 AM

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oh right double-sided cards are a routine thing in Magic

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:22 AM

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Then yeah

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Dude has no plausible deniability either

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:27 AM

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It's really shitty he lied about the reason to try and get people on his side

trail anvil Nov 21, 2022, 4:28 AM

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I mean what's new tbh

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:28 AM

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Yeah not surprising

trail anvil Nov 21, 2022, 4:28 AM

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people will always lie about why they got punished for something

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did he upkeep coco on stream?

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:30 AM

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https://m.twitch.tv/dreamhackmagic/clip/HeadstrongZealousSashimiBudBlast-v09Vwb35vkmex_PH

Twitch

DreamHackMagic - upkeep company marked deck

Watch DreamHackMagic's clip titled "upkeep company marked deck"

▶ Play video

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Yup

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Here's the upkeep CoCo

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Yeah, definitely cheating

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 4:34 AM

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okay yeah he had to have been doing that on purpose

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:34 AM

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Someone check if he does a double take on his deck after his turn prior's draw

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:36 AM

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It's really funny he keeps going "well I might have known that I might have been cheating with the CoCos" in the thread

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 4:36 AM

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"might have"

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:37 AM

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ALLEGEDLY

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:37 AM

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He's owning up to PART of the cheating but only because he theoretically knew that maybe he had a way to stack his deck

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But don't worry guys

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He wouldn't do that

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:39 AM

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And even if he did, it's not like he did it for the entire tournament, and even if he did, it's not like it's his fault he was using pringled foils, and even if it was, it's not his fault those foils pringled, and even if it was, it's not like he allegedly had further marked the cards

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 4:40 AM

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god this is just like that guy who "accidentally" marked all his tron lands

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and "accidentally" marked each of them differently to signify which was which

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:40 AM

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Yuuya Watanabe

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 4:40 AM

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yeah him

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:41 AM

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I'm more willing to give Yuuya the benefit of the doubt and he probably did it

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Iirc there was a possibility the judge marked them during the deck check before the feature match

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Not a high one, but it seemed possible

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Not on purpose, but if he spread the deck the right way, he could have done it

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But Yuuya probably cheated

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Sometimes judges handle your deck shitty for a feature, but it'd be a big coincidence

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 4:43 AM

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each of the different types of tron land was marked differently from the other types, which i think is extremely unlikely to happen on accident

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:43 AM

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Yeah that's where it leans towards him

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If it was all the same, I'd be inclined to say judge

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:44 AM

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I don't wear my glasses so chances are I wouldn't even notice someone stacking

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:44 AM

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I had a judge scratch my miragestallio's sleeve once at a YCS when they got called over

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:45 AM

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Yikes

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What'd you do?

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:45 AM

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It was in my extra deck and it didn't come up for the rest of the event, so I just switched sleeves after the event

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But I was pretty pissed when I realized he had scratched it

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If it was main deck, I would have probably notified another judge and asked what the correct plan was

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:46 AM

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Do you think it was intentional?

trail anvil Nov 21, 2022, 4:47 AM

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does anyone have a link to the thread

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:47 AM

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Nah, I think the judge just didn't give a shit

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He probably just tapped it too hard reading it or whatever

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Shitty regardless, but it was on an extra deck card I played multiples of so I didn't care

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 4:48 AM

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https://twitter.com/Mesa_47_/status/1594414173898903558

Micheal McClure (@Mesa_47_)

thread 1/x
Sadly am not going to the pro tour, I was disqualified today from dreamhack, I had some foils in my deck specifically secret lair collected companys among other foils in my de k and the judge staff cut to them and showed how I could have gained an advantage

Likes

307

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:48 AM

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@trail anvil

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Oh salt got to it first

trail anvil Nov 21, 2022, 4:48 AM

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oh it's in the same thread

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:48 AM

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But yeah, dude totally cheated

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Oh it was probably a reconstruction on top, huh?

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Since he foiled his [[Kayla's Reconstructions]] too

lost widgetBOT Nov 21, 2022, 4:50 AM

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https://scryfall.com/card/bro/10/kaylas-reconstruction?utm_source=discord

Kayla's Reconstruction <:manax:292901509082120202><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Look at the top seven cards of your library. Put up to X artifact and/or creature cards with mana value 3 or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Anyone can destroy a continent. Few have the vision to rebuild one.

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:50 AM

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That's probably the only thing he would skip the CoCo for

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:51 AM

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Anyone want to check the top right of the top most giada, that looks like a corner bend

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:51 AM

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Could be, could be the angle he took the pic at tho

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Either way, the fact that the Giadas and Reconstructions are foiled + some random lands means he probably knew he'd draw a reconstruction

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 4:52 AM

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Bottom most giada also has a sharp corner top left

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Probably just looking to deep into things

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:53 AM

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I think the reconstructions alone are enough to prove he was cheating, yeah

twilit canyon Nov 21, 2022, 4:53 AM

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from reading their tweets, it seems like they had noticed but still took advantage of the foil advantage they received throughout the matches and only when they noticed that a judge was gonna check did they "fess up"

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 4:53 AM

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The two most important non-creatures are the only playsets of foiled cards

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It's likely the Giadas, the one angel, and the pathway are just his plausible deniability foils

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I dunno the specifics on the odds, but he could cut to CoCo and it's likely the odds were favored for seeing the foils you'd wanna see

trail anvil Nov 21, 2022, 5:51 AM

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has anyone tried monored after bro btw

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with swiftspear and all

zinc shard Nov 21, 2022, 6:01 AM

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Found this list on mtgazone

trail anvil Nov 21, 2022, 6:14 AM

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damn 4 mechanized warfare

twilit canyon Nov 21, 2022, 6:15 AM

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this list looks like crokeyz list that ran pretty hot

trail anvil Nov 21, 2022, 6:51 AM

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trying to test out izzet spellslinger in unrated and people instascoop once they see island into delver pensivecowboybread

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too many people getting burned by monoblue

broken fjord Nov 21, 2022, 5:02 PM

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This seems quite strong? Felidar Guardian loops for one.

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 5:02 PM

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monkaGIGA

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Sorry what tf this card is sick for etb or flicker decks

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 5:16 PM

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Oh wasn't cast

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It's not as good because of that, but still solid

trail anvil Nov 21, 2022, 5:29 PM

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shit that's really fun

granite badge Nov 21, 2022, 5:44 PM

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White has a lot of repeatable flicker right?

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Or is that moreso in blue?

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 5:46 PM

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I feel like I see it more in White

twilit canyon Nov 21, 2022, 5:54 PM

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its blue usually

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white gets some

broken fjord Nov 21, 2022, 6:02 PM

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Ephemerate, Ghostway, Flicker, Flicker of Fate, cloudshift, Touch the Spirit Realm, and a bunch of creatures

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White has lots of flicker effects

copper pecan Nov 21, 2022, 6:03 PM

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yeah if this had to be monocolored i'd rather it be white than blue

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white can take advantage of this way more easily

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 6:19 PM

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When is the set this card is from releasing?

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 6:20 PM

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Dec 2nd

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Iirc at least

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 6:21 PM

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Oh there's just a lot of reveals on the subreddit

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:17 PM

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This is actually abysmal

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Not the card the art

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What does the flavour text have to do with this, why does it look like they got the how to draw anime book people to draw the character in the background

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Good card monkaGIGA

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:34 PM

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lusty trench

What the fuck

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That's actually terrible art

languid quest Nov 21, 2022, 7:41 PM

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lusty trench

that art looks horrible

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like what were they thinking

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 7:41 PM

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It reminds me of... older anime
Like the cel days
But not actually cel coloring

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:43 PM

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This one is sick tho

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Although that's up there for worst flavor texts ever

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:43 PM

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The artist for the magnifying glass has done magic art before

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 7:44 PM

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You know what they say about speaking softly....

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:44 PM

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golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:44 PM

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Wait but that's so much better

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:44 PM

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They 1000% phoned in the glass art

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 7:44 PM

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Maybe they were going for a different style
That they were not good at

zinc shard Nov 21, 2022, 7:44 PM

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lusty trench

Why does this remind me of Runicks

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:45 PM

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golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:45 PM

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Wait that one is so sick tho

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:45 PM

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Other work in their portfolio include this

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:45 PM

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Yeah they definitely phoned it in

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Oh no

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Anime ravnica

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Unless I'm getting two people with the same name mixed up

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Then they phoned it in

twilit canyon Nov 21, 2022, 7:46 PM

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thats lavinia no?

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:46 PM

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It is, yeah

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:48 PM

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Must be before she went renegade

languid quest Nov 21, 2022, 7:51 PM

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she is totally trying too hard to appeal to anime card game fans

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:51 PM

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On one hand, I like having a ton of options for art on magic cards

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:52 PM

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I like quite a few of these anime arts

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:52 PM

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On the other, I can't see anime art on the cards without it looking fake like shitty custom cards

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:52 PM

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But wow there are some duds here

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:52 PM

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Some are great tho, yeah

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That Colossus, the Karn, and Kiki Jiki are great

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But the pirate, equipment cat, and magnifying glass are huge misses

hidden ermine Nov 21, 2022, 7:52 PM

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I think that artist is just not good at humans

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And much better at everything else

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:53 PM

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lusty trench Other work in their portfolio include this

They have multiple works like this in their portfolio

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:54 PM

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I think the Balan one is probably my least favorite anime art tho

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Like this is just boring and it made her into a generic cat girl

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:54 PM

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I actually like this... Except for the bikini armour

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:55 PM

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It's technically a fine piece, but it's just kinda meh

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Compare to

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The composition and character design is much cooler here

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Like the art isn't bad, just boring

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 7:57 PM

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I think my main issue with that new card is the flavour text

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 7:58 PM

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A lot of the anime flavor texts are kinda cringey yeah

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I think the magnifying glass is the only outright "bad" art so far

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But a lot of them just feel like yugioh art on a random magic card

languid quest Nov 21, 2022, 8:04 PM

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which is funny since early YGO card art was very much MtG inspired

hidden ermine Nov 21, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Eh

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They feel like YGO art from the mid-late 2000s

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Modern YGO art has much better quality control tbqh

languid quest Nov 21, 2022, 8:06 PM

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I mean art in cards like Snatch Steal and Reload

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 8:17 PM

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THIS ART MAN

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New blood artist too

hidden ermine Nov 21, 2022, 8:17 PM

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Looks like an SV artist

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Oh the Blood Artist slaps

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 8:18 PM

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Uh oh

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Stinky

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Card is bad

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vampire angel

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monkaGIGA

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What a cool ass card type

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 8:19 PM

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Is this dude on Innistrad?

languid quest Nov 21, 2022, 8:19 PM

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oh they are bringing back male angels are they

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 8:19 PM

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I can't find anything MTG related when googling his name

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 8:19 PM

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languid quest oh they are bringing back male angels are they

They have been

languid quest Nov 21, 2022, 8:20 PM

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well that's interesting

broken fjord Nov 21, 2022, 8:24 PM

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The mono-white flicker commander is the most interesting for me, so far

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 9:17 PM

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Good art, but this really doesn't feel like an elvish rejuvinator

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He's doing the pose tho, so that's cool

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 9:19 PM

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Where's the

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Where the other arm

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 9:19 PM

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I guess it's in his cloak?

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 9:19 PM

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Artist didn't want to draw the other hand lmao

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 9:21 PM

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Hands are hard

twilit canyon Nov 21, 2022, 9:21 PM

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could be a 1 armed elf

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 9:22 PM

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I think it's under the cloak and the perspective is weird

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Since it mirrors the regular art

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 9:22 PM

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twilit canyon could be a 1 armed elf

They chose to put the cloak in the way

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 9:23 PM

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Rejuvenator's other hand is on his chest

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 10:06 PM

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So err

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Won another secret lair

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I only entered one time

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monkaGIGA

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 10:07 PM

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Which lair?

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 10:08 PM

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I get to pick out of a bunch

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 10:08 PM

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Ayy nice

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What are the options?

lusty trench Nov 21, 2022, 10:09 PM

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They're sending me a list tomorrow

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Last time I got the DND show one

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 11:15 PM

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@last glen

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Why'd they give the dinosaur bedroom eyes

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 11:15 PM

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why are you pinging me like I'm responsible

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 11:15 PM

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You like dinosaurs

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You somehow caused this

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Also I'm sad they gave this one the alt art over dreadmaw

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 11:17 PM

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shit it never really occurred to me Thrashing was 3/4 for 3

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 11:18 PM

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Yeah they've got good stats

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They sometimes see sideboard play based on the format

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 11:18 PM

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I might look into mainboarding it for those stats

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I've been brewing a money-no-object dream list for Pioneer

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 11:19 PM

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You can hit it off CoCo, but I dunno how relevant that'd be in dinos

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 11:19 PM

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I have some ramp options at 3 CMC but because of that the statlines are weak

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I've thought about CoCo but the stuff you really want is above 3 mana

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 11:21 PM

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Yeah that's what I was thinking

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 11:22 PM

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Storm the Festival is an option but it's probably too late and it doesn't access your omega-big finishers
and Dino doesn't have a great way to set up Flashback

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https://www.moxfield.com/decks/UbWay9-0Z0aQ3ApJf7G-Qw

A deck created using Moxfield.

Money-No-Object Naya Dinosaurs - Pioneer

A deck created using the deck building website, Moxfield.

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here's my current working list

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almost definitely not optimal

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also the white part of the deck is currently really a just a splash

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mostly have it for the power white cards
~~walked into a white power joke last time I was talking about this deck~~

golden plover Nov 21, 2022, 11:25 PM

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Looks solid so far

last glen Nov 21, 2022, 11:26 PM

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I haven't gotten any real games in
just been throwing it in semi-solitaire against xmage's AI

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I think the two things I'm hung up over
(outside of trying to jam in funny super-suboptimal cards)
is my relatively low statlines until I get to at least Alpha
and Reckless Rage

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Reckless Rage lets me trigger Enrage and have removal
but I can't really use it early because either I have no monsters
or my monsters are my elves which I don't want to pop because I'm ramping with them

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oh also I don't have a grasp on balancing dual lands, basic lands, and mono-colored-with-effect lands

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tangentially
I've been doing some hyper-budget brewing for Pioneer
fifty cents or less per card

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 1:31 AM

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My Heads I Win is supposed to arrive tomorrow or Wednesday

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So yeah, only a bit over a year off the initial date

twilit canyon Nov 22, 2022, 3:54 AM

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arcane proxy is kinda good

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also

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lmao

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is arcane proxy

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just another name for a magic the gathering card

last glen Nov 22, 2022, 3:57 AM

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of course not

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it's Pirated Copy farfaY

twilit canyon Nov 22, 2022, 3:58 AM

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heh

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:01 AM

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I like how it punishes the opponent for connecting with their creature lol

twilit canyon Nov 22, 2022, 4:02 AM

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at 5 mana for a clone it damn better reward u

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:32 AM

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yeah that just seems like something you'd gloss over seeing it for the first time in draft

sudden lava Nov 22, 2022, 6:51 AM

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I saw they started to reveal new mono green apes

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 1:13 PM

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Street fighter or Livia prima

glad peak Nov 22, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Street fighter

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:44 PM

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what set is this for again

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ixalan?

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:44 PM

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Jmp22

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Aww man, the Eldrazi pack sucks

last glen Nov 22, 2022, 4:44 PM

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I hope we get dinosaur support next Ixalan pack

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:44 PM

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oh, well as long as it has some solid reprints

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where is the next plane we're visiting, is it ixalan?

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:45 PM

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Eldrazi
World Breaker (anime art) Endbringer
Brood Monitor
Ruin in their Wake (new art)
Planar Atlas
Titan's Presence
Blisterpod
Stalking Drone
Scion Summoner
Warden of Geometries
Ancient Stirrings
Unnatural Aggression
Warped Landscape
Ash Barrens
Wastes
Forest

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Why'd they make it green

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:46 PM

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sleek ferry where is the next plane we're visiting, is it ixalan?

Phyrexia

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:46 PM

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ah so our current story ends in phyrexia

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kinda fitting

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wait, in the past or present

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what's the resolution of BRO

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did teferi do what he went there to do

copper pecan Nov 22, 2022, 4:47 PM

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we're going to phyrexia in the present

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:48 PM

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Bro just kinda happened, we don't know if Teferi learned what he needed yet

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:48 PM

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does it feel like they're setting up Teferi to die?

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:48 PM

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But I'd assume because March of the Machine is two sets from now, they're likely just gonna have him use the sylex to wipe out all the phyrexians or whatever

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:49 PM

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didn't teferi get stuck or did they figure out how to bring him back

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:49 PM

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He got sent to some beach somewhere

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He's in the key art for March of the Machine tho

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:50 PM

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oh shit oh shit

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fuck the phyrexia and march of the machine sets

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we're going to fucking eldraine afterwards

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:50 PM

#

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Oh cool, it's hardened scales on a body

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:51 PM

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BCG my beloved, i await your return to standard

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:51 PM

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honestly eldraine is a really cool plane, it just had so many busted cards in the set

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:51 PM

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I don't think they'd reprint bonecrusher into standard tbh

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:51 PM

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getting an oko that's not meta warping but still good would be nice

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:52 PM

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bcg is fine

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:52 PM

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He's fine, but he's way too much value

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As in he's an instant when you need it and a creature when you need it

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We're more likely to get stuff like [[Murderous Rider]] who was just worse

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 4:53 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/eld/97/murderous-rider-swift-end?utm_source=discord

Murderous Rider <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Zombie Knight
Lifelink
When Murderous Rider dies, put it on the bottom of its owner's library.
2/3

Swift End mana1 manab manab
Instant — Adventure
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. You lose 2 life. (Then exile this card. You may cast the creature later from exile.)

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:53 PM

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murderous rider was still solid though

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:53 PM

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Actually they're a cycle

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I think they'd either reprint the whole cycle or skip it

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So they'll probably skip it in favor of a new rare adventure cycle

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:54 PM

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damn, that's sad

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[[fae of wishes]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 4:54 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/eld/44/fae-of-wishes-granted?utm_source=discord

Fae of Wishes <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Faerie Wizard
Flying
, Discard two cards: Return Fae of Wishes to its owner's hand.
1/4

Granted mana3 manau
Sorcery — Adventure
You may reveal a noncreature card you own from outside the game and put it into your hand.

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:54 PM

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murderous rider was everywhere in its standard

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the flexible removal and lifelink were big

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:54 PM

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True

copper pecan Nov 22, 2022, 4:54 PM

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adventure is only problematic when it's removal

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:54 PM

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Fae is the blue member of the cycle

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The others are Giant Killer and Lovestruck Beast

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:55 PM

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lovestruck beast was fun too

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:55 PM

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So yeah, they'll probably just skip out on the whole rare adventure cycle then

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:55 PM

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giant killer was eh

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:55 PM

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Since pretty much every one of them saw standard play

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:55 PM

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lovestruck was really nutso

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just a big fatty

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:55 PM

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but also white in general was pretty eh during that time

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:56 PM

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if red didn't have cleave I feel like they'd eat shit to it

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:56 PM

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Giant Killer isn't bad

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:56 PM

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as opposed to now where white is a top 2 color

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:56 PM

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He sees play elsewhere sometimes too

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This was almost really good, but then I realized it's "ability" and not spell

last glen Nov 22, 2022, 4:57 PM

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yeah definitely limits application

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but there's still some funny stuff

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like [[Duelist's Heritage]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 4:57 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/197/duelists-heritage?utm_source=discord

Duelist's Heritage <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever one or more creatures attack, you may have target attacking creature gain double strike until end of turn.
The best techniques outlive their creators.

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:57 PM

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True, that's not a bad idea

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But you can't do funny feather stuff with him

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 4:58 PM

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golden plover He sees play elsewhere sometimes too

Zadon't

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:58 PM

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You can use like Delina I guess to make a billion tokens?

last glen Nov 22, 2022, 4:58 PM

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I saw people suggesting stuff like [[Access Tunnel]] too

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 4:58 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/262/access-tunnel?utm_source=discord

Access Tunnel

Land
manat : Add manac .
mana3 , manat : Target creature with power 3 or less can't be blocked this turn.
Oriq agents stick to the dark corners of Arcavios, unseen yet ever-present.

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:58 PM

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That works

last glen Nov 22, 2022, 4:59 PM

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probably facilitates some going-wide mass-effect deck

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:59 PM

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man looking back on it eldraine was actually an insanely fun set despite its op stuff

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 4:59 PM

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the great henge was fun

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 4:59 PM

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you had a lot of nice themes in there like draw 2nd card, knights, adventures and food

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 4:59 PM

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Yeah I guess you just do Boros tokens things with some form of payoff for targeting him

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:00 PM

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sultai in general was pretty fun after oko ban

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 5:00 PM

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questing beast was fun

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:00 PM

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Man fuck questing beast

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 5:02 PM

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green needs questing beast now

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like wtf

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green is probably the worse color in standard right now

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and it's probably not close

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:03 PM

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I dunno about standard, I just think questing beast is a really poorly designed card

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4/4 for 4 with tons of abilites and keywords

last glen Nov 22, 2022, 5:04 PM

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[[Questing Beast]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:04 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/eld/171/questing-beast?utm_source=discord

Questing Beast <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Beast
Vigilance, deathtouch, haste
Questing Beast can't be blocked by creatures with power 2 or less.
Combat damage that would be dealt by creatures you control can't be prevented.
Whenever Questing Beast deals combat damage to an opponent, it deals that much damage to target planeswalker that player controls.
4/4

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:05 PM

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honestly I think green is actually pretty close to standard relevance

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but it definitely needs at least a couple more good cards

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:05 PM

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@lusty trench

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Weird ass angel

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:05 PM

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this art is unnerving me

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:06 PM

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Yeah it's kinda creepy

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Also rhystic study reprint with new art

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:08 PM

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very based art

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 5:08 PM

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That’s uh what’s her name from strixhaven

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:09 PM

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Zimone and Rootha

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:14 PM

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man I still think it's such a shame that strixhaven cards weren't more powerful

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the art was really cool but a ton of the college cards were pretty weak

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especially the deans

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:15 PM

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I can't remember what any of the deans do, too much text on both sides and it feels entirely unrelated

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Yeah the deans really don't make sense as MDFCs

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There's no connection between either side

granite badge Nov 22, 2022, 5:17 PM

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yuuuppp

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:17 PM

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imo there was some connection, but usually the effects were either irrelevant or overcosted

granite badge Nov 22, 2022, 5:17 PM

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I think a few of the MDFC's were cool

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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I don't see any connection for ones like [[Plargg]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/155/plargg-dean-of-chaos-augusta-dean-of-order?utm_source=discord

Plargg, Dean of Chaos <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Orc Shaman
, Discard a card: Draw a card.
, : Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a nonlegendary, nonland card with mana value 3 or less. You may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Put all revealed cards not cast this way on the bottom of your library in a random order.
2/2

Augusta, Dean of Order mana2 manaw
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Other tapped creatures you control get +1/+0.
Other untapped creatures you control get +0/+1.
Whenever you attack, untap each creature you control, then tap any number of creatures you control.
1/3

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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I think the Zendikar and Kaldheim MDFCs were the best because one side was simple and played into something similar to the other side

granite badge Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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[[Augmenter Pugulist]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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No card found for “Augmenter Pugulist”

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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I mean I get what they're going for I just don't think they should have done it

granite badge Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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bruh

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[[Echoing Equation]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/147/augmenter-pugilist-echoing-equation?utm_source=discord

Augmenter Pugilist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Troll Druid
Trample
As long as you control eight or more lands, Augmenter Pugilist gets +5/+5.
"Hold still. I have a theory about what's going to happen to your face."
3/3

Echoing Equation mana3 manau manau
Sorcery
Choose target creature you control. Each other creature you control becomes a copy of it until end of turn, except those creatures aren't legendary.
"Any good experiment is repeatable."

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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They'd have worked better as just a cycle of 10 rares total

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 5:18 PM

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cause they're opposite deans lorewise right, so they don't have to have corresponding effects

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but they would have been better as their own cards

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:19 PM

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Yeah

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MDFCs should have corresponding effects

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All the deans just kinda feel like they're 2 unrelated cards

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:19 PM

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but also both effects are just way too bad to care about

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:20 PM

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That too

sudden lava Nov 22, 2022, 5:20 PM

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Marit Lage's Slumber shouldve got anime art

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:20 PM

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like the golgari one is brawl playable at least

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:20 PM

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[[Embrose]] is the only dean where both sides feel like they wanna be in the same deck

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:20 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/158/shaile-dean-of-radiance-embrose-dean-of-shadow?utm_source=discord

Shaile, Dean of Radiance <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Bird Cleric
Flying, vigilance
: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature that entered the battlefield under your control this turn.
"You are so much stronger than you know."
1/1

Embrose, Dean of Shadow mana2 manab manab
Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
manat : Put a +1/+1 counter on another target creature, then Embrose, Dean of Shadow deals 2 damage to that creature.
Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it dies, draw a card.
4/4

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:20 PM

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[[valentin, dean of the vein]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:20 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/161/valentin-dean-of-the-vein-lisette-dean-of-the-root?utm_source=discord

Valentin, Dean of the Vein <:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Vampire Warlock
Menace, lifelink
If a nontoken creature an opponent controls would die, exile it instead. When you do, you may pay . If you do, create a 1/1 black and green Pest creature token with "When this creature dies, you gain 1 life."
1/1

Lisette, Dean of the Root mana2 manag manag
Legendary Creature — Human Druid
Whenever you gain life, you may pay mana1 . If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control and those creatures gain trample until end of turn.
"Life is as fleeting as it is vibrant. Embrace the brief blessing of a flower before it withers."
4/4

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:21 PM

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Technically both Izzet ones care about playing cards from exile

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But one exiles your shit and the other the opponent's

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:21 PM

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god I remember those being particularly bad

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:21 PM

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Oh they're awful

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:21 PM

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I was thinking about running them as a commander once for fun but they just suck way too hard

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:21 PM

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The blue side loots and suspends, but you still have to pay the mana

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The red side exiles cards on attack or whatever and lets you play them

sudden lava Nov 22, 2022, 5:22 PM

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https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Uktabi-Orangutan-265x370.png

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:22 PM

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[[Deanof Expression]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:22 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/160/uvilda-dean-of-perfection-nassari-dean-of-expression?utm_source=discord

Uvilda, Dean of Perfection <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Djinn Wizard
: You may exile an instant or sorcery card from your hand and put three hone counters on it. It gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this card is exiled, remove a hone counter from it" and "When the last hone counter is removed from this card, if it's exiled, you may cast it. It costs less to cast this way."
2/2

Nassari, Dean of Expression mana3 manar manar
Legendary Creature — Efreet Shaman
At the beginning of your upkeep, exile the top card of each opponent's library. Until end of turn, you may cast spells from among those exiled cards, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast those spells.
Whenever you cast a spell from exile, put a +1/+1 counter on Nassari, Dean of Expression.
4/4

sudden lava Nov 22, 2022, 5:22 PM

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https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Towering-Gibbon-265x370.png

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:22 PM

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also I just noticed embrose would fit way better in the golgari college

sudden lava Nov 22, 2022, 5:22 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-gif-24482288

Tenor

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:22 PM

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Yeah Uvilda is terrible

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And Nassari costs 2 too much

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What they could have done for the deans that would have been cool was flavor one side to do something that benefits you and the other side a similar effect that hurts the opponent

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So like at the start of your upkeeps, Ulvida exiles your topdeck and you can play it from exile. And Nassari does the same thing for the opponents, but color fixing

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Would have made them feel more coherent

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:27 PM

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also didn't the dragons suck except the boros one

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:28 PM

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The Izzet one is kinda fine

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He turns all your treasures into rocks

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Well all artifacts

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:28 PM

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oh right forgot about that

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I feel like that one piggybacked off goldspan in the end though lol

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:29 PM

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Yeah pretty much

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But yeah the simic and golgari dragons suck ass

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Oh I forgot about the orzhov one

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:30 PM

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the simic dragon makes me so sad cause it's like one of the few things with trample in its college and then they make it support other stuff

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:30 PM

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In 1v1s you have to help the opponent with it

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[[Shadrix Silverquill]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:30 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/230/shadrix-silverquill?utm_source=discord

Shadrix Silverquill <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Dragon
Flying, double strike
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may choose two. Each mode must target a different player.
• Target player creates a 2/1 white and black Inkling creature token with flying.
• Target player draws a card and loses 1 life.
• Target player puts a +1/+1 counter on each creature they control.
2/5

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:31 PM

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Like you have to give them something

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:31 PM

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god these stats are miserable too

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:31 PM

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He's technically a 4/5 flier

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But it's really not enough for 5 mana

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I guess the idea is that you connect him a couple times and he gets a lot larger?

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:31 PM

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oh right lmao

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:32 PM

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So like on his first swing he's a 6/5

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And then a 8/5 if you pick the same mode

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But you'd also be passing up card draw for that

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And again, you have to benefit the opponent at least a little bit anytime you pick anything

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:32 PM

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I just remember during the reveal thread people kept saying maybe it was decent in 4 player formats cause you could give counters to someone with no creatures

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:33 PM

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It's like sorta fine in commander I guess, yeah

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Since you can pick the player who is the least threatening with each mode

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You're still giving someone else a bit of value at best tho, even if it's just a 2/1 flier

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:34 PM

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or something with politics

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:34 PM

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Yeah pretty much

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But I don't value card draw, or God forbid, counters, enough to benefit an opponent for it

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I can see what they were going for in that all the modes play into each other and you can theoretically snowball pretty fast with it

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But you've gotta hope that the opponent has no way to benefit off you setting up

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You know which one is really bad tho?

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[[Beledrix Witherbloom]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:37 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/163/beledros-witherbloom?utm_source=discord

Beledros Witherbloom <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Elder Dragon
Flying
At the beginning of each upkeep, create a 1/1 black and green Pest creature token with "When this creature dies, you gain 1 life."
Pay 10 life: Untap all lands you control. Activate only once each turn.
4/4

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:37 PM

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this one is at least fun in brawl lol

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:37 PM

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True

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The 10 life ability is kinda cute I guess

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:37 PM

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I just wish he had some kind of inherent protection

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ward would've been a godsend here at least

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:38 PM

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But it doesn't set itself up and it's really open to removal

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Also the pest ability feels really underwhelming for 7 mana

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It should at least make like 2-3 pests?

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:39 PM

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yeah it's a fun ability but I feel like a lot of the mana budget went towards that untap effect

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:39 PM

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Like I know these are commander designs so you're making 4 pests per rotation around the table

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 5:39 PM

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golden plover <@657540110950334465>

it's bad lmao

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:39 PM

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But that's still not good

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:40 PM

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honestly your typical 5 mana token generator would have been really nice to fill that gap

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:42 PM

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What do you mean?

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:43 PM

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lusty trench it's bad lmao

Oh def, I just wanted to tag you for creepy art angel

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 5:43 PM

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fair

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:43 PM

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like [[tendershoot dryad]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:43 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/rix/147/tendershoot-dryad?utm_source=discord

Tendershoot Dryad <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Dryad
Ascend (If you control ten or more permanents, you get the city's blessing for the rest of the game.)
At the beginning of each upkeep, create a 1/1 green Saproling creature token.
Saprolings you control get +2/+2 as long as you have the city's blessing.
2/2

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:43 PM

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Yeah true. Something like that would have been better

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But they already gave that to Prismari, so they didn't wanna do it again I guess

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:44 PM

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they did?

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:45 PM

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Prismari makes a treasure on etb

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[[Galazeth Prismari]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 22, 2022, 5:45 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/189/galazeth-prismari?utm_source=discord

Galazeth Prismari <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Elder Dragon
Flying
When Galazeth Prismari enters the battlefield, create a Treasure token.
Artifacts you control have " manat : Add one mana of any color. Spend this mana only to cast an instant or sorcery spell."
3/4

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:45 PM

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Damn he's also 4 mana

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He's by far the best of them

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Wow this is... Really mediocre

trail anvil Nov 22, 2022, 5:53 PM

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golden plover Prismari makes a treasure on etb

nah I mean a token generator at a lower cost

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like constant token generation for sac is really nice, and pests themselves were good

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 5:56 PM

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Ah yeah, that'd be really solid

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This art is sick

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This one feels entirely random

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Like this art could be literally any card in any card game

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 7:11 PM

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This one doesn't even make sense?

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Ayy she's back

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 7:14 PM

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golden plover This one doesn't even make sense?

why

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 7:16 PM

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I dunno. Why's there a random girl in the tree of perdition now

copper pecan Nov 22, 2022, 7:17 PM

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tree's haunted

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 7:18 PM

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True. It's good enough art, it just feels weird for the tree

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 7:21 PM

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tree's only had one artwork, it's not like there's been a series of reprints with similar art each time

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 7:21 PM

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Yeah, it just doesn't really feel innistrady

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Feels really yugioh

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Also man, the reprints this time kinda suck outside of rhystic study

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 7:43 PM

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Cringe

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Yeeeees

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YEEEEEES

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KENNY GOT NEW ART

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pogofgreed

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 7:45 PM

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lusty trench Cringe

yoo merfolk

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Only procs on second though, so talrand is still better

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Probably run both tho tbh

hidden ermine Nov 22, 2022, 7:46 PM

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lusty trench KENNY GOT NEW ART

And the tale of Gisa and Geralf bantering continues

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 7:47 PM

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Wouldn't be siblings if you didn't mock them every 5 seconds

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 7:48 PM

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I mean talrand and alandra aren't playable in legacy or vintage merfolk anyway

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 7:53 PM

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Screenshot_2022-11-22-19-53-44-115-edit_com.reddit.frontpage.jpg

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PeepoCry GIVE US AN ORIGINAL DRAGON WIZARDS YOU COWARDS

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 7:55 PM

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Hey goldspan is like the second good reprint

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He's like $20

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 7:55 PM

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imagine if this reprint came when the card was playable in a format

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 7:56 PM

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Nah that'd be too good

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Card was like $50 at the time

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Can't have $50 reprints in $5 packs anymore

sleek ferry Nov 22, 2022, 8:13 PM

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imagine not owning a playset of goldspan

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 8:26 PM

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I mean, it's not really good in anything rn

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I've got one I pulled in a pack in my Jetmir deck, but I'm not dying to get 3 more

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THERE WE GO

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 8:31 PM

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golden plover I mean, it's not really good in anything rn

it'll only ever be good if it's printed in standard again lmao

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 8:32 PM

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Yeah pretty much

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It'll end up being a $15 commander bulk mythic

copper pecan Nov 22, 2022, 9:02 PM

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golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 9:03 PM

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This one looks like a duel masters card

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Wild

copper pecan Nov 22, 2022, 9:04 PM

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the artist for it did a ton of art for duel masters

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most notably he did the boss monster of the first rival

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literally two zombies in a trench coat

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sus

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 9:06 PM

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they should have turned into 2/1s instead

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so that when they're combined they become the 4/2

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 9:07 PM

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The printed zombie token standard is 2/2

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So realistically they just should have made this one a 4/4

fallow citrus Nov 22, 2022, 9:09 PM

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yeah

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 9:11 PM

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I think the 2 toughness is to represent they aren't really more durable

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knock the bottom one over and the top goes with it

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 9:11 PM

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True. But they split into 2 regular zombies

lusty trench Nov 22, 2022, 9:18 PM

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yeah but they have to revive for that to happen

glad peak Nov 22, 2022, 9:54 PM

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4/2 because enlist works that way

hidden ermine Nov 22, 2022, 10:27 PM

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https://i.redd.it/2zdmn660ij1a1.jpg

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~~Why is this an official alt art~~

copper pecan Nov 22, 2022, 10:51 PM

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bruh

golden plover Nov 22, 2022, 11:26 PM

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What the hell

languid quest Nov 22, 2022, 11:32 PM

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lol

granite badge Nov 23, 2022, 12:45 AM

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That dragon is doing things and not in the good way

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They had to have known... right?

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 1:13 AM

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Vore flavor text

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 1:44 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1044647368403996732/unknown.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1044669064938803300/IMG_9175.webp

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1044682006728024094/IMG_9183.jpg

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1044727645058912368/16691508729465528824617666476201.jpg

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1044722820061610024/16691515464888187506423113463610.png

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stitcher's supplier

lusty trench Nov 23, 2022, 1:44 AM

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Oh I like that plaguecrafter

glad peak Nov 23, 2022, 1:46 AM

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I like the drannith stinger

fallow citrus Nov 23, 2022, 2:18 AM

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anime cycle storm in pauper let's go

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 2:20 AM

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stinger stitcher and plaguecrafter actually look like the actual cards

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 2:50 AM

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https://preview.redd.it/j3zsemsqek1a1.png?width=1136&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8826c2f3a3db72cf122d459734c0b9e2a8c89cc

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This looks really weird

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Art is fine

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Def doesn't strike me as Lord of the Accursed tho

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Not sure why the majority are just "young girl dressed like the card"

trail anvil Nov 23, 2022, 2:59 AM

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twilit canyon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1044682006728024094/IM...

oh nwo I swipped and cwacked my head open >w<

lusty trench Nov 23, 2022, 3:00 AM

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Ehhh eto bleh

copper pecan Nov 23, 2022, 3:50 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/magicthecirclejerking/comments/z270cs/bottom_5_scoring_submissions_of_the_week_from/

r/magicthecirclejerking - Bottom 5 Scoring Submissions of the week ...

72 votes and 36 comments so far on Reddit

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wow it's real bad this week

granite badge Nov 23, 2022, 3:55 AM

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Why the fuck does that elemental have "this card is green" when it already has the green box

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There's even precident for cards without a mana cost having a color indicator

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[[Rograkh son of]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 23, 2022, 3:55 AM

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/197/rograkh-son-of-rohgahh?utm_source=discord

Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh <:mana0:292901467382087680>

Legendary Creature — Kobold Warrior
First strike, menace, trample
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
Strength is relative.
0/1

copper pecan Nov 23, 2022, 3:57 AM

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like 10 years ago they did it the way that elemental does it

fallow citrus Nov 23, 2022, 4:09 AM

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static abilities use the stack is the most headass thing ever

copper pecan Nov 23, 2022, 4:11 AM

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yeah like how does that even work

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also why is it an enchantment if it's a fortification

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that's an artifact subtype

sudden lava Nov 23, 2022, 5:01 AM

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https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Monkey-Cage-265x370.webp

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the primate tribal gets an artifact reveal

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reprint btw

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 5:13 AM

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Arguably one of the worst cards, ever

sudden lava Nov 23, 2022, 5:28 AM

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yeah its pretty bad

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 6:58 AM

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#

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 8:41 AM

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angels do p well with kayla's reconstruction

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seems that they might be the 2nd best tribe in historic atm

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if i had to rank

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"wizards"/merfolk
angels/goblins
humans (maybe soldiers too)
spirits (either mono-blue or copium bant)
shamans
elves
zombies (i have seen em for some reason)

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actually

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i bump shamans over spirits

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a deck with 4 fable and 4 fabio can only be so bad

languid quest Nov 23, 2022, 1:36 PM

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golden plover Not sure why the majority are just "young girl dressed like the card"

in other words cosplayer

sleek ferry Nov 23, 2022, 2:07 PM

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Who would have ever thought I’d see the day where mtg did anime art on their cards better than Yugioh

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That preordain slaps

strong quartz Nov 23, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Still think the Japanese art for the Strixhaven alts are the best so far

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Primal command had amazing art

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 4:23 PM

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Yeah I think the JP strixhaven cards were the best

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I think every style should be represented in MTG

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But a lot of these look like cheap alters

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Like they're fine, but they're one step divorced from the guy who brings hentai playmats

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 4:52 PM

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Welp we've got all the themes for Jumpstart now

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Overall, this one feels weaker than the first. Not as good reprint wise, or in the new cards

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Urza Pack and Study pack are the biggest highlights

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 4:54 PM

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which makes it all the more confusing this isnt getting added to arena

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ig they dont wanna bloat arena with so many releases

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 4:55 PM

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Yeah, it feels more dialed down this time around

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Which sucks, because Jumpstart 1 was one of the best packs in a long time. You'd usually at least get some value and a lot of the new stuff was fun

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I guess the biggest appeal this time is the anime cards if you're into that, but otherwise, this one feels a lot weaker

trail anvil Nov 23, 2022, 4:58 PM

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idk this has a lot of cards I'd wanna use on brawl tbh

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 5:02 PM

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They're not going to arena

lusty trench Nov 23, 2022, 5:03 PM

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Tbh, jumpstart 1 was carried hard by the elf theme and the M21 inclusion of terror of the peaks

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Like the elf theme was either allosaurus or hoof

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 5:04 PM

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Also the mill theme, lifegain theme, phyrexian theme, the new commanders, and the lands

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There's a ton of cards in JMP that are like $15+

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And the themes just felt better

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Holy shit Bruvac is $30?

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I should sell mine

lusty trench Nov 23, 2022, 5:07 PM

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I think kibo would've been worth something if they didn't make it a box topper

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Oh shit Lyra dawnbringer reprint

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Man they picked almost of the planes walkers worst versions huh

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 5:30 PM

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Pretty much

lusty trench Nov 23, 2022, 5:33 PM

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Actual planes walker starter deck jace

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Being printed in the year 2022

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 6:05 PM

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It's finally here

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The box is cool even if it's just cardboard

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Coin is a Pokemon coin, yeah

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Got the island for the bonus card

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Still really wish it was all the lands

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They did the old yugioh super rare foiling thing for the double sided cards

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So they curl pretty bad because one side has more foil than the other

languid quest Nov 23, 2022, 6:38 PM

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it would help if they used little thicker card board

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 6:42 PM

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Or better foil

granite badge Nov 23, 2022, 7:13 PM

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Jfc those comments
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/z2ws7d/j22_i_guess_spirited_companion_got_fixed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

r/magicTCG - [J22] I guess Spirited Companion got "fixed"

0 votes and 26 comments so far on Reddit

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Cheems

lusty trench Nov 23, 2022, 7:17 PM

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It's literally because it's not legendary

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I'm so confused why people are having this issue

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 7:22 PM

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Yup. We have legendary dogs

granite badge Nov 23, 2022, 7:33 PM

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I wanna comment something on that post but judging by what posts are getting upvotes & which are getting downvotes...

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Like why are the comments going "omg guys Wizard is LGBTQ supportave this is such a radical change" getting pushed to the top

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 7:58 PM

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Wizards only supports LGBT rights when it's profitable

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And doesn't require much extra work

trail anvil Nov 23, 2022, 8:51 PM

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golden plover They're not going to arena

ik, that was in response to misty saying she was confused why it wasn't

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 9:05 PM

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Ah, gotcha

sleek ferry Nov 23, 2022, 9:14 PM

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https://youtu.be/zvPvhNZMEFE

YouTube

CovertGoBlue

☀️ Mono White Value Town Midrange | Mythic Brothers War Standard | ...

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Decklist - https://aetherhub.com/Deck/big-white-value
Promo Code CGB5 - https://www.coolstuffinc.com/cgb
Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/covertgoblue
Twitter - https://twitter.com/covertgoblue
Discord - https://discord.gg/MXt3DEP

Title Music by Sam Plotkin - www.samplotkin...

▶ Play video

steady onyx Nov 23, 2022, 11:17 PM

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i wanna get a commander deck

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to play at locals before they have yugioh

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any sugguestions

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 11:17 PM

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budget? is ur locals proxy friendly?

steady onyx Nov 23, 2022, 11:17 PM

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idk if they proxxy friendly

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 11:17 PM

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what kinda deck u like to play

steady onyx Nov 23, 2022, 11:17 PM

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mabye 100?

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idk never played magic

golden plover Nov 23, 2022, 11:18 PM

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I guess it probably wouldn't hurt to get one of the precons to at least learn

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Trying to think of what the best precons still in the stores are

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 11:18 PM

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yea pick a pre-con

steady onyx Nov 23, 2022, 11:19 PM

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👍

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oh actually

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the last time i looked at commander

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decks that seemed interesting were like sphinx ninjas arcades and like very low cmc decks

hidden ermine Nov 23, 2022, 11:21 PM

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Precons are perfectly fine for casual commander

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Just pick one you think is fun, and go from there

steady onyx Nov 23, 2022, 11:21 PM

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👍

steady onyx Nov 23, 2022, 11:45 PM

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any specific precon

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looking at the site ren

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these were the onyl 2 i found

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i could try to find one on amazon

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if it would be shipped here in 2 days

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if these ones arent good

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peeposhrug

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?

twilit canyon Nov 23, 2022, 11:57 PM

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they are fine

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either one

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pick ur fave

languid quest Nov 24, 2022, 12:02 AM

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I find it interesting that all cards in those precons are "retro border" as in how MtG cards looked before 8th and Mirrodin

sleek ferry Nov 24, 2022, 1:02 AM

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Urza is more straight forward

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Mishra is a bit more advanced

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But before you decide let me see if I can find a more perfect beginner friendly precon

steady onyx Nov 24, 2022, 1:04 AM

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~~already ordered the urza one from store~~

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gonna go sat pick it up play from 1-5 than at 6 gonna play yugioh

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and sweep with naty

lusty trench Nov 24, 2022, 1:05 AM

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I think urza also has the better card in it tbh

sleek ferry Nov 24, 2022, 1:06 AM

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As a beginner areo I high recommend you go through this https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyLzs6vB3Xk5pRXf_QGxfCAi4DkzATgJo

YouTube

Getting Started In Commander

A curated listed of Jimmy & Josh's best advice and expertise to help you get started and experiencing this amazing format for your self as easily as possible...

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Command zone is very good for beginners

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Less so for more experienced players

lusty trench Nov 24, 2022, 1:06 AM

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Watch game knights as well if you want to see what a casual but obviously played up for the camera game looks like

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:06 AM

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Command zone is good for beginners but wow are there a lot of bad habits/bad decisions

sleek ferry Nov 24, 2022, 1:06 AM

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You can also watch their matches to see the dynamic of games play out

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Also yeah, a lot of their games

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Especially the recent ones

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Feel super scripted

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:07 AM

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Especially with the random “oh I randomly drew cyclonic rift, I wonder if I can stop my opponent”

sleek ferry Nov 24, 2022, 1:10 AM

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The older ones are better

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Like uh

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Let me find an episode

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https://youtu.be/qvurFmLlo4c

YouTube

The Command Zone

Double Masters Commander Battle l Game Knights #38 l Magic: The Gat...

This video is sponsored by Wizards of the Coast. Support the show by using our Card Kingdom affiliate link for your next Magic purchase: http://www.cardkingdom.com/commandzone

Show Notes:

Get ready for more twists, more turns and more huge plays (roughly twice as many as usual) because this episode is a classic Commander clash feat...

▶ Play video

steady onyx Nov 24, 2022, 1:13 AM

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should i just watch the whole thing?

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:13 AM

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Yep

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You can probably fast forward whenever they play/explain a card

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Cuts down time by a ton

languid quest Nov 24, 2022, 1:14 AM

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based on The Prof Mishra one is over all better but Urza one is more beginner friendly

steady onyx Nov 24, 2022, 1:14 AM

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DAMN

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I HAVE 98 dshield white

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standards

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dsgndksgn

languid quest Nov 24, 2022, 1:15 AM

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you need 2 more

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:15 AM

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Time to play a partner commander then

steady onyx Nov 24, 2022, 1:15 AM

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languid quest you need 2 more

dont i only need 1

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its 99 + commander?

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:15 AM

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Yep

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Or 98+2 commanders

languid quest Nov 24, 2022, 1:16 AM

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many do use same sleeves for commander as they use with 99

steady onyx Nov 24, 2022, 1:16 AM

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eh

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i was just gonna use an anime sleeve i had

languid quest Nov 24, 2022, 1:17 AM

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that's fine as well

lusty trench Nov 24, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Having to make cuts in my mono black deck

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PeepoCry I got so many favourites tho

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Kill your darlings

lusty trench Nov 24, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Nooooooo PeepoCry

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:17 AM

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That’s what I learned from cube

lusty trench Nov 24, 2022, 1:17 AM

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But I like ashnod even if she's bad

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VERYSADCAT

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I recently replaced my commander with mikaeus though so maybe it's for the best I cut as many humans as I can

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:18 AM

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Speaking of cube, 4 player black and white Winston cube based around blending aggro, control, and reanimator sounds fun

steady onyx Nov 24, 2022, 1:20 AM

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are sleeves required?

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:20 AM

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No but you probably want it

lusty trench Nov 24, 2022, 1:20 AM

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steady onyx are sleeves required?

Vastly preferred and over time your cards will get ruined if you don't

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Especially your foils

glad peak Nov 24, 2022, 1:21 AM

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Losing thousands because you didn’t want to spend $10 on sleeves is silly

lusty trench Nov 24, 2022, 1:21 AM

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I don't want to think about how much I'm carrying in my dragon deck

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If I lose that I'm ruined

steady onyx Nov 24, 2022, 1:28 AM

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ugh

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where did thoe 2 sleeves go

trail anvil Nov 24, 2022, 5:30 AM

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finally pulled a loran of the third path to replace rec sage in lagrella ❤️

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hooray for objective ugprades

fallow citrus Nov 24, 2022, 5:36 AM

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ngl I quite want to make that grixis sac deck using saheeli and oni cult anvil

twilit canyon Nov 24, 2022, 6:30 AM

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why stay at grixis

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splash green

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spider and hexmite

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also

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tamiyo underrated strong in that archetype

sudden lava Nov 24, 2022, 6:31 AM

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more insects

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https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Giant-Ladybug-Jumpstart-2022-Spoiler.png

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https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Rampaging-Growth-Jumpstart-2022-Spoiler.png

lusty trench Nov 24, 2022, 8:43 AM

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Anyone got some cool but cheap black card suggestions

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Like upper limit of $15

rigid scarab Nov 24, 2022, 9:20 AM

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It's strange

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Nobody likes the concept of the reserved list

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But everyone knows removing it outright has some majorly bad implications

trail anvil Nov 24, 2022, 10:22 AM

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tri land in a golden pack ❤️

fallow citrus Nov 24, 2022, 2:58 PM

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twilit canyon spider and hexmite

spider?

fallow citrus Nov 24, 2022, 6:29 PM

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I am dog with manabases but this is the first draft I've made

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https://www.moxfield.com/decks/G_3y-Oqb50yZXnBfROK6jw

A deck created using Moxfield.

4c Anvil - Standard

A deck created using the deck building website, Moxfield.

twilit canyon Nov 24, 2022, 7:21 PM

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fallow citrus spider?

4 drop in goglari

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etb sac another creature destroy a permenanent

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if it dies u can exile it to gain some life

fallow citrus Nov 24, 2022, 7:24 PM

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yea I found it

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pretty cool card

rich bronze Nov 24, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Hello Magic players, I was interested in this new card they revealed and was wondering how it works? Does each mountain become a player? Are actual people added like in "Splendid Genesis"? Are they just becoming alive for a bout

twilit canyon Nov 24, 2022, 8:16 PM

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this is ai generated magic cards

rich bronze Nov 24, 2022, 8:18 PM

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~~I know~~

copper pecan Nov 26, 2022, 12:20 AM

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https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1595204927110131712

Magic: The Gathering (@wizards_magic)

@CoolStuffInc The UWU-ification of stax will continue until :3 improves

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granite badge Nov 26, 2022, 12:21 AM

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The reply tweets lmaoooo

zinc shard Nov 26, 2022, 1:24 AM

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i dont get the problem, most stax pieces are U or W anyways OgreThink

zinc shard Nov 26, 2022, 6:48 AM

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twilit canyon Nov 26, 2022, 6:36 PM

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https://twitter.com/PlayMTG/status/1596395686136000512?t=fnnjxDZDp15DgcqePO3kkQ&s=19

PlayMTG (@PlayMTG)

Violet Lou won an LCQ and is fighting for a PT invite at the #ANZSuperSeries - with Izzet Tokens!

"Cutting Phoenix means you lose a bit of equity against fringe decks, but the matchups against more common decks like Green and Rakdos are great. Plus, you get to play Of One Mind."

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i love being correct about magic all the time

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cut phoenix from phoenix = better results

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 7:18 PM

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zinc shard

Are the 8 manas in magic even usable?

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Are they just "cheat me out" or do some decks actually reach that point?

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 7:19 PM

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Some decks do both

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Like mono black coffers

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I guess mono black doesn’t do the persist plan anymore but they do still sometimes have the golos plan which is another form of cheat

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 7:23 PM

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Golos?

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 7:31 PM

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[[golos,]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 7:31 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/m20/226/golos-tireless-pilgrim?utm_source=discord

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Scout
When Golos, Tireless Pilgrim enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
mana2 manaw manau manab manar manag : Exile the top three cards of your library. You may play them this turn without paying their mana costs.
3/5

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 7:31 PM

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RIP Bozo

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 7:31 PM

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?

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 7:31 PM

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He's banned in commander and has fallen off everywhere else

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Which is good, because fuck Golos

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Mono-black Golos was kind of a cute deck tho

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 7:32 PM

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Mono black still has a variant that plays golos

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So he’s not completely dead

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 7:33 PM

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Gotcha. That was really the only deck he stuck around in

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Outside of being a problem in commander

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 7:34 PM

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So not a problem at all nyaruhodo

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 7:35 PM

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True

trail anvil Nov 26, 2022, 7:35 PM

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didn't he get unbanned in historic brawl

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 7:36 PM

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Isn't he in the Kinnan/Whoever else tier?

fallow citrus Nov 26, 2022, 7:51 PM

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8 mana is very playable depending on the deck

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decks like mono green in pioneer can put out 8 mana just fine when they get going

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tron's literally just designed to pump out high amounts of colourless mana

sleek ferry Nov 26, 2022, 7:57 PM

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Is arcane proxy actually good in modern?

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Or was I lied to

fallow citrus Nov 26, 2022, 8:01 PM

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it's probably fine but like

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what does it really slot into

lusty trench Nov 26, 2022, 8:06 PM

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Oh right can someone explain to me why portal to phyrexia shot up?

fallow citrus Nov 26, 2022, 8:09 PM

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people are on some strange copium that portal might be a good parallel to creativity

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cause you can put it into play with [[shape anew]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 8:10 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/som/43/shape-anew?utm_source=discord

Shape Anew <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
The controller of target artifact sacrifices it, then reveals cards from the top of their library until they reveal an artifact card. That player puts that card onto the battlefield, then shuffles all other cards revealed this way into their library.

zinc shard Nov 26, 2022, 8:12 PM

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i feel like Snapcasters just better

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 8:13 PM

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Not sure if it’s copium but it is surprisingly good vs some modern decks

twilit canyon Nov 26, 2022, 8:13 PM

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[[anchor to reality]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 8:13 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/neo/45/anchor-to-reality?utm_source=discord

Anchor to Reality <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice an artifact or creature.
Search your library for an Equipment or Vehicle card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle. If it has mana value less than the sacrificed permanent's mana value, scry 2.
The Wanderer sighed in relief as the Reality Chip tethered her wayward spark to Kamigawa.

twilit canyon Nov 26, 2022, 8:13 PM

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why not this

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 8:13 PM

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Snapcaster and proxy are probably going to be used differently since proxy doesn’t have flash

fallow citrus Nov 26, 2022, 8:13 PM

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that can't grab portal

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 8:15 PM

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Also not being able to run creatures was a decent cost in the creativity deck, nothing too hard though

fallow citrus Nov 26, 2022, 8:16 PM

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issue with shape anew is that you need to play artifacts that you could hit off of shape anew

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whereas creativity will never hit something that isn't archon

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 8:36 PM

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Portal is pretty much the only hit you need

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Boardwipe+stealing creatures is good Vs a couple of modern decks

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Creativity only hits archon but your deck can not run creatures which is a downside sometimes

fallow citrus Nov 26, 2022, 8:40 PM

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..no I mean

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you have to play other artifacts

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 8:40 PM

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No you don’t ToadallyConcerned

fallow citrus Nov 26, 2022, 8:40 PM

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"The controller of target artifact sacrifices it, then reveals cards from the top of their library until they reveal an artifact card."

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 8:41 PM

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Play stuff that make treasure tokens or food tokens or whatnought

fallow citrus Nov 26, 2022, 8:41 PM

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oh yeah sure

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 8:41 PM

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That way you can play utility creatures or ramp like gilded goose

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Downside is you can’t run hate cards that are artifacts but you can’t do that in creativity either

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So you get a better beatdown plan but you get a worse payoff unless your opponent is playing creatures

twilit canyon Nov 26, 2022, 8:49 PM

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oh portal to phyrexia

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idk why i was thinking of a big vehicle spell

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:01 PM

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lost widget https://scryfall.com/card/m20/226/golos-tireless-pilgrim?utm_source=discord

Wtf

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Wtf

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Wtf is this

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:01 PM

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It’s a meh card

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:01 PM

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Wait

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7 mana

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Nah it's balanced by that

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:01 PM

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Only really used to fetch field of the dead back in the day and nothing else

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Now that’s a broken card [[field of the dead]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 9:02 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/m20/247/field-of-the-dead?utm_source=discord

Field of the Dead

Land
Field of the Dead enters the battlefield tapped.
manat : Add manac .
Whenever Field of the Dead or another land enters the battlefield under your control, if you control seven or more lands with different names, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:02 PM

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How

copper pecan Nov 26, 2022, 9:02 PM

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rich bronze Nah it's balanced by that

trust me, it's not balanced

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there is a reason it's banned in commander

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golos is a better commander for a lot of strategies than commanders made specifically for those strategies are

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:03 PM

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Getting multiple into play at the same time increases the zombies you get exponentially

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And then any land you play gets you zombies equal to however many fields you have

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Banned in modern and pioneer btw ToadallyConcerned

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:06 PM

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copper pecan golos is a better commander for a lot of strategies than commanders made specifi...

Oh right Commamder

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I just know the samurai is the worst

copper pecan Nov 26, 2022, 9:06 PM

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it was also too good for standard

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since that + field of the dead was a ton of zombies every turn

sleek ferry Nov 26, 2022, 9:08 PM

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Eh I think today, golos is highly overrated by commander standards

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:08 PM

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Poor Samurai guy

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His gimmick is so so

sleek ferry Nov 26, 2022, 9:08 PM

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When it got banned I still saw the argument

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But today? Nah

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:09 PM

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I forgot how commander really works

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:15 PM

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Wait which samurai guy?

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Oh him I remember now

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:16 PM

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The 2 cost

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Th sligh Cat

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:16 PM

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Yeah no there’s a lot of worse commanders

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:16 PM

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Or smth

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Really?

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:16 PM

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Stuff like 6 mana 4/4 vanilla creatures

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:18 PM

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Show me

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Is it from Legends?

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:20 PM

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Yep they’re from legends

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Yes there are a cycle of them

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They all look pretty much like this

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:22 PM

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Show me

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More

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I wanna laugh

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:22 PM

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I can’t send a mirror through discord nyaruhodo

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https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3A"legendary+creature"+is%3Avanilla&unique=cards&as=grid&order=cmc&dir=

Scryfall Magic: The Gathering Search

t:"legendary creature" is:vanilla

13 Magic cards found where the card types include “legendary creature” and the cards are vanilla

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Here they are

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Can’t say anything about isamaru because it was competitive in French edh for years and it might still be

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 9:24 PM

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sleek ferry Eh I think today, golos is highly overrated by commander standards

Golos has too much versatility

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:29 PM

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Some commanders that suck but have effs?

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 9:30 PM

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There's definitely a lot, yeah

granite badge Nov 26, 2022, 9:30 PM

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[[Golos]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 9:30 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/m20/226/golos-tireless-pilgrim?utm_source=discord

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Scout
When Golos, Tireless Pilgrim enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
mana2 manaw manau manab manar manag : Exile the top three cards of your library. You may play them this turn without paying their mana costs.
3/5

granite badge Nov 26, 2022, 9:31 PM

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Imagine if this only searched for lands with a basic type

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Would that make it fine?

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:31 PM

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[[phage untouchable]] is one but she’s at least interesting

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 9:31 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/cns/120/phage-the-untouchable?utm_source=discord

Phage the Untouchable <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Avatar Minion
When Phage the Untouchable enters the battlefield, if you didn't cast it from your hand, you lose the game.
Whenever Phage deals combat damage to a creature, destroy that creature. It can't be regenerated.
Whenever Phage deals combat damage to a player, that player loses the game.
4/4

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 9:32 PM

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Phage is neat

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I know a guy with a phage deck

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 9:32 PM

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granite badge Would that make it fine?

Maybe, but he's still too versatile

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As for truly bad legendaries

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[[Yukora]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 9:32 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/bok/90/yukora-the-prisoner?utm_source=discord

Yukora, the Prisoner <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Demon Spirit
When Yukora, the Prisoner leaves the battlefield, sacrifice all non-Ogre creatures you control.
It took ninety-nine monks to weave the spell that trapped Yukora. Upon the death of the ninety-nine, the spell was broken, and the demon returned to the mortal world seeking vengeance for its imprisonment.
5/5

copper pecan Nov 26, 2022, 9:37 PM

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if you play [[hokori]] as your commander, your friends are legally allowed to kill you

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 9:37 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/bok/7/hokori-dust-drinker?utm_source=discord

Hokori, Dust Drinker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Spirit
Lands don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps a land they control.
2/2

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 9:38 PM

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Hikori is fun

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He's just a stax dude

copper pecan Nov 26, 2022, 9:38 PM

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my personal favorite shit commander is [[gosta dirk]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 9:38 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/leg/227/gosta-dirk?utm_source=discord

Gosta Dirk <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
First strike
Creatures with islandwalk can be blocked as though they didn't have islandwalk.
4/4

copper pecan Nov 26, 2022, 9:38 PM

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because he hoses an ability that isn't even printed anymore

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there's also [[chandler]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 9:38 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/hml/69/chandler?utm_source=discord

Chandler <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Rogue
manar manar manar , manat : Destroy target artifact creature.
"Never brag about the latest wonder you've created, students. Chandler might be listening." —Reveka, Wizard Savant
3/3

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 9:39 PM

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i had fun at the magic thing today

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got my ass whopped every game but it was fun

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!

zinc shard Nov 26, 2022, 9:40 PM

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rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:53 PM

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lost widget https://scryfall.com/card/cns/120/phage-the-untouchable?utm_source=discord

She seems balanced

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:54 PM

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lost widget https://scryfall.com/card/leg/227/gosta-dirk?utm_source=discord

Oh right, landwalk

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Isn't Marcus worse?

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 9:55 PM

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rich bronze She seems balanced

You play her from the command zone then lose immediately

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:56 PM

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The kill button

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 9:58 PM

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You can use stuff like [[Command Beacon]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 9:58 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/349/command-beacon?utm_source=discord

Command Beacon

Land
manat : Add manac .
manat , Sacrifice Command Beacon: Put your commander into your hand from the command zone.
"I gazed once into that light. Now it burns in my mind, forever denying me rest." —Riku of Two Reflections

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 9:58 PM

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lost widget https://scryfall.com/card/bok/90/yukora-the-prisoner?utm_source=discord

WHAT

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4 MANA 5/5? WITH A DRAWBACK???

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I thought maybe a 6/6 would be reasonable

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But that's fucking your field for a 5/5

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 9:59 PM

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At this rate, you'd want like a 7/7

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 10:00 PM

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At 4 mana ye

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The doggo that's a 2/2 reminds me of a Hearthstone card

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But over there those are commons

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 10:01 PM

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Who? [[isamaru]]?

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 10:01 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/113/isamaru-hound-of-konda?utm_source=discord

Isamaru, Hound of Konda <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Dog
The hound sniffed the air and let slip a low growl. General Takeno looked down at the faithful Isamaru and calmed him with a touch. "Alert the guard. The kami are coming."
2/2

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Ye

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Good doggo

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Good stats for cost

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Ye, the whole point of the design was what was the most you could get for 1 mana at the time

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He's got a psuedo-retrain too

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[[Yoshimaru]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 10:03 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/nec/32/yoshimaru-ever-faithful?utm_source=discord

Yoshimaru, Ever Faithful <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Dog
Whenever another legendary permanent enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Yoshimaru, Ever Faithful.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
Day after day he sat there, knowing that the Wanderer would soon be back for him.
1/1

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 10:03 PM

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And I love this one, it's such a meme

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I play it with [[Rogarkh]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 10:03 PM

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No card found for “Rogarkh”

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 10:03 PM

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Who's his buddy

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 10:04 PM

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[[Rograkh]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 10:04 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/197/rograkh-son-of-rohgahh?utm_source=discord

Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh <:mana0:292901467382087680>

Legendary Creature — Kobold Warrior
First strike, menace, trample
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
Strength is relative.
0/1

rich bronze Nov 26, 2022, 10:05 PM

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Oh damn

golden plover Nov 26, 2022, 10:05 PM

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Throw a bunch of good equipment and legendary cards in there

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But there's also the wincon of [[Cloudstone Curio]] and any 0 cost card

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 10:05 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/rav/257/cloudstone-curio?utm_source=discord

Cloudstone Curio <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Whenever a nonartifact permanent enters the battlefield under your control, you may return another permanent you control that shares a permanent type with it to its owner's hand.
It wants to remain a mystery, banishing the curious in favor of less inquisitive company.

zinc shard Nov 26, 2022, 10:21 PM

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When you fly too close to the sun

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 10:46 PM

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are voltron deckS good in commander

zinc shard Nov 26, 2022, 10:49 PM

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they're not fantastic, mostly because it's multiplayer

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 11:15 PM

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how out a counter spell/ flash creature deck?

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 11:42 PM

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It’s fine, gets better the higher power the environment is depending on which counterspell you talk about

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As is every Mtg format, coming up with your own ideas for a deck without outside research leads to bad decks

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 11:50 PM

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idk

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i just want to be able to interact

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and not just like pass on nothing

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if that makes sense

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 11:54 PM

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Sure but you also have to figure out how to win the game sometime

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Most people brewing will go all in on one thing and forget that staples, packages, and a comp scene are there for a reason

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 11:55 PM

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idfk

sleek ferry Nov 26, 2022, 11:55 PM

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Just interact for free

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[[force of will]]

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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i just hated playing a deck where i couldnt do anything

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/50/force-of-will?utm_source=discord

Force of Will <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
You may pay 1 life and exile a blue card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Counter target spell.
"Your artillery will burn itself out before I allow my focus to waver."

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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while the other players were playing

glad peak Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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Play stax, make no one else able to play nyaruhodo

sleek ferry Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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[[fierce guardianship]]

lost widgetBOT Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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https://scryfall.com/card/c20/35/fierce-guardianship?utm_source=discord

Fierce Guardianship <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Counter target noncreature spell.
"Hunt somewhere else. This is your only warning." —Gavi, nest warden

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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also i leanred today that magic needs a big skill yugioh dosent

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being able to talk to people

sleek ferry Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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Resource management?

steady onyx Nov 26, 2022, 11:56 PM

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fdngkdng

#Magic the Gathering

Creature — Zombie Knight Lifelink When Murderous Rider dies, put it on the bottom of its owner's library. 2/3

Creature — Faerie Wizard Flying , Discard two cards: Return Fae of Wishes to its owner's hand. 1/4

Creature — Troll Druid Trample As long as you control eight or more lands, Augmenter Pugilist gets +5/+5. "Hold still. I have a theory about what's going to happen to your face." 3/3

Legendary Creature — Bird Cleric Flying, vigilance : Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature that entered the battlefield under your control this turn. "You are so much stronger than you know." 1/1

Legendary Creature — Vampire Warlock Menace, lifelink If a nontoken creature an opponent controls would die, exile it instead. When you do, you may pay . If you do, create a 1/1 black and green Pest creature token with "When this creature dies, you gain 1 life." 1/1

Creature — Zombie Knight
Lifelink
When Murderous Rider dies, put it on the bottom of its owner's library.
2/3

Creature — Faerie Wizard
Flying
, Discard two cards: Return Fae of Wishes to its owner's hand.
1/4

Creature — Troll Druid
Trample
As long as you control eight or more lands, Augmenter Pugilist gets +5/+5.
"Hold still. I have a theory about what's going to happen to your face."
3/3

Legendary Creature — Bird Cleric
Flying, vigilance
: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature that entered the battlefield under your control this turn.
"You are so much stronger than you know."
1/1

Legendary Creature — Vampire Warlock
Menace, lifelink
If a nontoken creature an opponent controls would die, exile it instead. When you do, you may pay . If you do, create a 1/1 black and green Pest creature token with "When this creature dies, you gain 1 life."
1/1