Magic the Gathering

[golden plover]

Also hits Greasefang really hard

[glad peak]

which then lets you karn wish for it after you've used it

[golden plover]

But I'm not sure if it kills the deck if you drop it t3 on Greasefang

Actually, it might?

You go for the Greasefang if they're not out, and Parhelion if she is

[glad peak]

with karn, you can do both in one turn

[golden plover]

True

[glad peak]

given a lot of liberties with mana of course

[golden plover]

Yeah, there's no way this isn't insane in pioneer

It can just answer any problem matchup that's centered around a key card

And being able to just shit on Phoenix, Devotion, and Greasefang is probably really good in the format

I'm sure there's other uses I'm not seeing. But that alone means most pioneer decks want it

If nothing else, it usually wins you your mirror

[copper pecan]

yeah but you know what's really important about this?

you can name the tron lands

WOW

[golden plover]

Yeah, that's true too

I dunno if it's fast enough against Tron tho

[fallow citrus]

plenty fast against them if you see it t2

[fallow citrus]

neat

[lusty trench]

doesn't say non token

[twilit canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931305913829195846/1036066216143495179/20221029_1918062.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931305913829195846/1036066246292144218/rg0rtvg7vtw91.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931305913829195846/1036066271701254235/unknown-75.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931305913829195846/1036066301770203176/20221029_173217.jpg

[lusty trench]

Wow that's an underwhelming ashnod

Clay champion is cool

[copper pecan]

i mean i'd sure hope that a mv 1 legend doesn't have a strong effect

being able to get it out turn 1 literally every game means they need to give it something not strong

[lusty trench]

That's my issue though

Why make her 1 mana

And make her underhelming

[hidden ermine]

Yeah its just kinda

Boring

[golden plover]

Yeah, that's just pretty underwhelming all around

Especially since she'll likely die any time she attacks

[lusty trench]

Honestly I'd make her two/three mana and replace the when attacking sac a creature to when another creature you control dies

[golden plover]

At least make her 2 mana and give her menace

So she gets more than one attack in

[lusty trench]

It's a shame, she was the card I was looking forward to most after gix

Ashnod the uncaring ignoring mana abilities as well is not great

I guess uncaring can duplicate razaketh effects?

[golden plover]

Well you can't copy mana abilities

[lusty trench]

I know but still to have ashnod completely ignore the altar she's most known for is both funny and disappointing

[twilit canyon]

she is entirely a build-around

[lusty trench]

God damn it thinking on it makes me hate the when attacking trigger more

Cause she can use the powerstone tokens for the second ability

But it's never going to happen

[golden plover]

I'm kinda not feeling the powerstone stuff tbh

Tons of just easy ramp

[lusty trench]

Them coming in tapped too is awful

Add to that the fact that a worn down version of them are strictly better

[golden plover]

I'd prefer them to come in tapped 99% of the time

But like, there's too many free artifact ramp rn

[lusty trench]

I actually can't think of a good way to use commander deck ashnod

I can think of maybe 5 creatures you'd want to use her ability for

[golden plover]

You copy non-creatures

Oh wait you mean Ashnod

[lusty trench]

Yeah my bad

Commander deck Mishra I can think of tons of uses for

[golden plover]

Yeah I'm definitely building something for Mishra

[trail anvil]

idk man I'm hype for her

[atomic harness]

tell em komi

[lusty trench]

If you make a list for her please let me know because I absolutely love sacrifice decks, but rn I just don't see how I can use it, but that might be cause it's 1:45 am

[golden plover]

Commander deck one seems cool

Main set seems

[lusty trench]

I don't deny the commander deck one being cool, I'm just trying to think of ways to use her as most of my sac outlets make mana

I think we're only missing saheeli and fauna shaman from the arts we were given

[twilit canyon]

i posted all of these except fade from history

[fallow citrus]

o

I didn't get a notification in here and didn't see cause I was scrolled down

[glad peak]

Clay champion is very cool

Can’t wait to see the others

[sudden lava]

more bears 😮

[trail anvil]

if we see a deck that spams assembly workers or something to the effect that'll be nice

[lusty trench]

Fade from history seems kinda good?

[golden plover]

It's above rate, yeah

[zinc shard]

This + the Darksteel or Bridge Lands

[lusty trench]

It doesn't say non land

[atomic harness]

[lusty trench]

Aww heck I lost my vorinclex voice of hunger

...is it odd I was more concerned about losing the sleeve cause that meant if I didn't have a spare I'd have to buy a new pack of sleeves

[trail anvil]

https://i.imgur.com/RHWQdKt.jpg

why'd this have to be symmetrical

[languid quest]

that is very much commander card

you can see that in way that it's worded

"you and target opponent"

[young dirge]

if im playing a format with no commanders can this card still function

[lusty trench]

The pay 3 tap mill three does

But otherwise no

[young dirge]

feelsbad

[languid quest]

that's cards designed for commander for you

[zinc shard]

https://www.thegamer.com/magic-the-gathering-mtg-30-anniversary-edition-booster-pack-sale-convention/

LOL

[languid quest]

lmao WotC is getting desperate

[lusty trench]

Arcane proxy seems bad unless you're casting it for the cheaper cost

[twilit canyon]

thats

entirely why you want this

[hidden ermine]

Even then its kinda

Eh?

Its like a wack Snapcaster

[twilit canyon]

3 mana 2/1 copy say expressive iteration is solid

[hidden ermine]

You lose flash in exchange for being able to play the bigger version

[twilit canyon]

now

because it is a wizard...

[[a-mentors guidance]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/stx/A-46/a-mentors-guidance?utm_source=discord

A-Mentor's Guidance <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
When you cast this spell, copy it if you control a planeswalker, Cleric, Druid, Shaman, Warlock, or Wizard.
Scry 1, then draw a card.
Kasmina had encouraged the twins to apply. Strixhaven would test not only their magical potential, but also their character.

[twilit canyon]

lmao

[hidden ermine]

Oh yeah in standard its probably fine, I'm thinking in formats where snapcaster already exists

[twilit canyon]

snappy is unplayable rn

i think arcane proxy is not perfect but there is potential for it

[twilit canyon]

i

hate it

[waxen timber]

I wonder if arcane proxy would see play in glipse decks. Seems better than goblin darkdwellers since, you can cast if from hand for cheaper.

[trail anvil]

jesus fuck this card is busted

it takes 2 turns to board wipe but it handles everything on turn 4

I mean ig that's what you need when all the enchantments and walkers make bodies but holy shit

[lusty trench]

Fucking what

Like I'm bad at evaluating cards and I know this shit is busted

[twilit canyon]

well not quite i just hate that for 5 mana you can even grab a walker

*6

[fallow citrus]

super friends in standard time

nuke your opponent then just grab something good

[copper pecan]

there better be good artifact removal in this set

[zinc shard]

Doesn't say "Up to six" 🤔

[hidden ermine]

Wait, does that mean you can't cast it if someone is on 5 lands?

[golden plover]

Don't they just keep up to the number

You fail to choose anything past 6

[twilit canyon]

abrade is in the format already

but i want more yea

[lusty trench]

Apologies for bad quality

That emblem is pretty easy to get so I'm not surprised its not super impactful

[hidden ermine]

I mean, permanent cost reduction is pretty good

[fallow citrus]

her alt art is cool

[lusty trench]

Just nice art all around on her

Making two artifacts on minus two feels good too

[lusty trench]

You lose flash and pay an additional blue to be able to cast it for free

[languid quest]

she seems good

[fallow citrus]

izzet affinity moment

[twilit canyon]

shes good

[lusty trench]

How many mythics are usually in a set

[lusty trench]

Oh I like this

a graveyard
I love playing my opponents cards, I like being able to utilize cards outside of what I normally use

I wonder if the ||myrel|| leak is true

[twilit canyon]

which?

[trail anvil]

oh look it's old sheoldred on crack

[lusty trench]

If you Google brothers war myrel you'll see it

[fallow citrus]

oh shit

[lusty trench]

WHAT

[lusty trench]

NEW TUTOR?

[twilit canyon]

just came to post ir

no

[[diabolic intent]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/141/diabolic-intent?utm_source=discord

Diabolic Intent <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature.
Search your library for a card, put that card into your hand, then shuffle.

[twilit canyon]

but an insane one

[lusty trench]

Oh wow so just a really good reprint

[twilit canyon]

this one is actually good as fuck

https://twitter.com/MTG_Arena/status/1586775900842074126

MTG Arena (@MTG_Arena)

Sorry to burst your #MTGBRO Bauble but this Retro Artifact card won't be legal in Historic. The rest will, though! We'll be clarifying why in a later article.

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Twitter · Oct 30, 2022, 5:43 PM

im seething

but also holy fuck

historic about to be massively buffed

[trail anvil]

jesus christ

[twilit canyon]

all the retro artifacts besides bauble will be added

[fallow citrus]

including the altars right

[twilit canyon]

yep

nothing saying so

[fallow citrus]

[twilit canyon]

all we know now is that they will be from this post

its obvious why no bauble legal

but im mad

[fallow citrus]

this is the card of all time

[twilit canyon]

eh

meh

decent i guess

[lusty trench]

"I won't abandon him now"

Not in his colours

[twilit canyon]

hes red

[lusty trench]

He's also green

[hidden ermine]

Is Bard Class still in standard?

[fallow citrus]

no

[trail anvil]

oh I misread rip 😦

at least the altars will still be really huge

[trail anvil]

2 mana 3/3 is a pretty nice rate at least, with the indestructible on the side

[waxen timber]

This set seems pretty underpowered compared to the past few. I wonder if this will be a new ixalan

[trail anvil]

shame you probably won't use it to push for damage unless you really want it on single target removal

[trail anvil]

I feel like this is said every set, and it either ignores cards revealed before or after the statement

[hidden ermine]

Wasnt Forgotten Realms the new Ixalan?

[trail anvil]

maybe it was called that but it had a shit ton of staples

the man lands mostly if not all used for obvious reasons, orzhov sac got a massive boost from that pack, gruul/monogreen got fantastic cards

[hidden ermine]

I mean

So did Ixalan tbh

It had the flip enchantments, settle the wreckage, Adanto Vanguard

Dive Down

[copper pecan]

ixalan was way worse than forgotten realms

ixalan had its half a dozen good cards stretched over two sets instead of just one

[hidden ermine]

Uh

Those were all one set

[copper pecan]

i thought vanguard was from rivals

[hidden ermine]

Nope, Ixalan

[copper pecan]

huh

my mistake

[hidden ermine]

It also had Vraskas Contempt, Kitesail, Entrancing Melody, Ferocidon, Im pretty sure Cannonade saw play

[trail anvil]

were the flip enchantments even played outside of azcanta and the white one

[hidden ermine]

Carnage Tyrant

Colossal Dreadmaw

Hostage Taker too

Ixalans problem was that while it had good cards, it did little to change the meta

The cards just slotted into already existing decks

But if Im not mistaken, the same thing happened with Forgotten Realms

[copper pecan]

i feel like people wouldn't have hated ixalan as much if rivals wasn't also super weak

[lusty trench]

Kinda hard to when you've got both scarab god and torrential in standard at the time

[copper pecan]

even after those rotated out most of the cards in ixalan weren't good

[hidden ermine]

Rivals was weaker, but even Rivals had a lot of good stuff

[lusty trench]

Yeah I'm aware, but the alternative was making stuff more powerful than those

Which no thank you

[hidden ermine]

Mono-U tempo relied a almost entirely on Ixalan cards

And that was a really good deck

The explore package was later a huge part of Greens success too

[trail anvil]

and stuff like ravenous chupacabra and moment of craving

mastermind's was big for mono b control

[hidden ermine]

Yeah

Rivals biggest miss was its flip enchantments

Of the original 5 only the black one didn't really see play anywhere ever

But the 5 in Rivals all sucked

I think Journey to Eternity was the only playable one

[trail anvil]

looking back through it, rivals actually had a ton of meta affecting cards

[lusty trench]

Iirc isn't the green flip from ixalan used a fair amount in commander or something

[hidden ermine]

It's basically another way to get a worse Gaia's Cradle

It sees play, dunno if its optimal

[lusty trench]

green card
Somewhat good
"That'll be $30"

[twilit canyon]

forgotten realms invented mono green aggro in that standard

and mono-white's initial draft too

[trail anvil]

ik the monk was in there but were other second spell matters cards in there?

[waxen timber]

Ixalan sold terrible so, anything good is higher price

[twilit canyon]

paladin class, portable hole

a few others i cant recall off the top of my head besides cave of the frost dragon

[hidden ermine]

Did Urza seriously make the figurehead on his thopter ... himself?

[fallow citrus]

artifact flash 👀

[trail anvil]

time to run this as a colorless commander

you gain protection from everything
so teferi's protection but much worse?

[fallow citrus]

teferi's protection but you can still play the game

[hidden ermine]

Doesnt protect your stuff, but also lets your stuff still do stuff

[trail anvil]

so you can still lose life as long as it isn't by a creature or noncreature damage, and you're immune to hand hate spells basically

and curses

for 5 mana

[lusty trench]

Stasis coffin seems fine

Neat option for those commanders that don't have access to tefs protection

Urzas mario galaxy 2 ship though seems cool

[golden plover]

they're really trying to break KTGC huh?

All these artifacts exiling themselves

[fallow citrus]

ktgc?

[golden plover]

Karn the Great Creator

[fallow citrus]

oh it clicked as soon as I typed it out

[golden plover]

Wouldn't be surprised if the brain gets him banned in at least pioneer

[copper pecan]

i wouldn't be sad to see him go

they never should have made exile recursion in the first place

[golden plover]

Yeah devotion has been able to wishboard in answers for too long already

[zinc shard]

Of course, how else is anyone gonna know it's his?

[golden plover]

He kinda deserves it

[golden plover]

Yo that's kinda sick

[fallow citrus]

for only 8 mana revive any big artifact from your yard

like those really bad prototype ones

[golden plover]

I recall seeing at least a few artifacts that I thought "this is really cool if you can cheat it out"

Also, I like that 6 of it is colored so you can't cheat her ability with powerstones

[fallow citrus]

these are good if you can cheat them out

but like tocasia needs basically the same amount of mana to cast them anyway

[golden plover]

The black wurm is really good. There's a 7 mana one that did something crazy iirc

[fallow citrus]

arcane proxy is better casted prototyped tbh

[golden plover]

Yeah, 100%

He's not who I was thinking of

Oh wait... I think it's the card in the Mishra commander deck

[copper pecan]

i wonder if this set will be like rise of the eldrazi where there's a huge ramp focus

[hidden ermine]

Would be fitting

And explain why the Sylex is basically anti-ramp

[golden plover]

This feels really strong

Not sure where or in what

But it's good

[copper pecan]

i dunno, this doesn't seem very good

making your opponent also draw a card isn't great

[golden plover]

Yeah I was thinking you just ignore that and keep flickering her to pop all their artifacts

She's also better in commander than constructed, but I think she's probably pretty solid in both

[copper pecan]

there are way better things to flicker than this

[golden plover]

True, but it's notably a cheap flicker target that pops cards

[copper pecan]

are people flickering [[reclamation druid?]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ice/300/reclamation?utm_source=discord

Reclamation <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Black creatures can't attack unless their controller sacrifices a land for each black creature they control that's attacking. (This cost is paid as attackers are declared.)
"We shall oppose Lim-Dûl and his forces by any means necessary, even if the very earth be torn asunder." —Arna Kennerüd, Skyknight

[copper pecan]

that's not the one

the card that has the same popping effect for the same cost but it's green

[hidden ermine]

[[Reclamation Sage]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khc/72/reclamation-sage?utm_source=discord

Reclamation Sage <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elf Shaman
When Reclamation Sage enters the battlefield, you may destroy target artifact or enchantment.
"What was once formed by masons, shaped by smiths, or given life by mages, I will return to the embrace of the earth."
2/1

[copper pecan]

that one

[hidden ermine]

And yeah flickering rec sage is a play in some decks

[copper pecan]

if anything i'd rather flicker knight of autumn than this

[golden plover]

Yup, and rec sage is notably off color in certain flicker decks

[hidden ermine]

Some versions of DnT teched green for it iirc

[golden plover]

Almost everything that flickers uses white

[hidden ermine]

Or it was a modern Selesnya-coloured deck

[golden plover]

I think if nothing else, you'll split copies of Rec Sage and her if she doesn't outright replace Sage

[clever sun]

Loran is mid as a rare

[trail anvil]

this will be nice for yorion as a commander I think

at least in historic brawl, no rec sage

tbh as a basically better rec sage I wonder if you just run her then draw when you absolutely need to, outside of commander

[fallow citrus]

use her to draw while you have narset up 5head

[waxen timber]

Spirit of the Labyrinth and her will probably be playable together in a deck

[twilit canyon]

only works on your opps turn

[fallow citrus]

sadge

[trail anvil]

the draw isn't sorcery speed tho

[twilit canyon]

yea so in theory u can use loran to draw a card every opponents turn with narset out

[trail anvil]

combat thresher looks nice for lagrella

mindbreaker maybe you could abuse some self mill shenanigans with that?

[trail anvil]

disfigure with cut down in the meta is a really interesting choice for a reprint lmao

idk maybe you can use it on that enlist creature that goes indestructible

[lusty trench]

It's definitely a neat card to have in standard

[sudden lava]

wait the proto type cards cant be used in a colorless commander deck ?

cuz technically they have a color identity

[languid quest]

yes and if I am not mistaken same goes to those that have unearth with coloured mana in they cost

[golden plover]

Yup. Any colored mana symbols anywhere

[golden plover]

For a second I read that as dismember and was shocked the best 1 drop removal spell was back

[hidden ermine]

How do you attack yourself?

[golden plover]

I think komi means mill it off something else and play it for the unearth cost?

[lusty trench]

I just realised clay champion has surpassed the four mana seven seven meme to be a four mana eight eight

[sudden lava]

gimmick commander: Urza's battle thopter BUT you make it voltron

[fallow citrus]

mindbreaker is cool if you can dump it and then get it back with unearth yeah

turbo through your deck with stuff like [[tainted indulgence]] and [[consider]] to mill

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/227/tainted-indulgence?utm_source=discord

Tainted Indulgence <:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Draw two cards. Then discard a card unless there are five or more mana values among cards in your graveyard.
Their toast to good health went immediately, horribly awry.

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/44/consider?utm_source=discord

Consider <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Surveil 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card into your graveyard.)
Draw a card.
Ivold gasped in surprise. Either a very strange insect had crawled onto one of the lenses or he was seeing geists at last!

[rigid scarab]

Pioneer sideboard staple?

Oh shit you activated Liliana?

Thats crazy

I'll get a free 4/4 and gain 4?

[lusty trench]

There's a better version of this in pioneer iirc

[fallow citrus]

That does not seem better

[rigid scarab]

This is bigger but

[fallow citrus]

like it's bigger but it has a downside that you have to pay for

[rigid scarab]

Only being able to cast creatures is a major downside

[lusty trench]

Final mythic iirc

[rigid scarab]

And also Obstinate has the non-negligible factor of giving you 4 life

[lusty trench]

Unless they're doing more than 15

[rigid scarab]

Big flashy EDH card

[lusty trench]

Nah this card isn't good in edh

[rigid scarab]

Probably not but its cool

[lusty trench]

We've got omniscience and we've got bolas citadel, both are better than this

[rigid scarab]

Monocolor support is always nice

[rigid scarab]

Sucks that none of them are good

[fallow citrus]

fuckin

[[field of ruin]] in standard

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/262/field-of-ruin?utm_source=discord

Field of Ruin

Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice Field of Ruin: Destroy target nonbasic land an opponent controls. Each player searches their library for a basic land card, puts it onto the battlefield, then shuffles.

[fallow citrus]

which is.. in standard already

[lusty trench]

Yo this card kinda good

[rigid scarab]

Yeah its actually pretty nice

[fallow citrus]

eh technically one is swords but worse

ok yeah izzet prowess is all coming together now

[lusty trench]

Yo this is cracked

[hidden ermine]

White one seems crazy good, rest suck

[fallow citrus]

ok we have a way to get back out big artifacts now

[rigid scarab]

Another card Izzet storm gets to play with

[rigid scarab]

I would care for it if it was an instant

[lusty trench]

YES

[lusty trench]

Necrons gonna love this

[fallow citrus]

ok this is neat

[lusty trench]

Necrons gonna love this

[fallow citrus]

mono white coming back baby

[lusty trench]

Is this the entire list coming out?

[lusty trench]

ROBOT MONKEY

[fallow citrus]

I can't see any more reveals

for now anyway

[rigid scarab]

Flavor W once again

[fallow citrus]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/the-brothers-war-variants

[rigid scarab]

Draw card

[lusty trench]

[fallow citrus]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/the-brothers-war

[fallow citrus]

okay yeah here's the full list

[rigid scarab]

Second copy of Silence

I have a feeling this may get Rule 0'd in EDH

[lusty trench]

THE MYREL LEAK, THE MYREL LEAK WAS FAKE

[fallow citrus]

bant soldiers might be a deck in standard now

you have the new land

[[king darien, xvii]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/204/king-darien-xlviii?utm_source=discord

King Darien XLVIII <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Other creatures you control get +1/+1.
: Put a +1/+1 counter on King Darien and create a 1/1 white Soldier creature token.
Sacrifice King Darien: Creature tokens you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
2/3

[fallow citrus]

a lot of good white creatures in aggro are soldiers

[rigid scarab]

Ayo?

[lusty trench]

I mean realistically you put maximum 3 or 4 into this cause chances are that's what you'll get mixed with the lands

But seems cool

[rigid scarab]

This seems pretty good

[lusty trench]

5 mana Collective company seems decent

[rigid scarab]

Esp for a common

Wait AOD AND AETHERFLUX REPRINT?

[waxen timber]

I hate pretty much all the creatures being human. We got a ton of cool tribal support last set but, we get 0 merfolk, 0 elves, 0 goblins

[lusty trench]

no mono green mythic

[waxen timber]

Green mythic is Titania

[lusty trench]

Oh shit right

She's not in the gallery

💀

[rigid scarab]

Bear cubs

[lusty trench]

Oh no she'd be under meld cards wouldn't she

I'm dumb

[lusty trench]

This cards actually pretty good

I'm happy to see mass enchantment artifact removal outside of farewell and vandal

[rigid scarab]

I think we found a new contender for worst Planeswalker ultimate

[lusty trench]

We talked about it a while back

It really do be doodoo

[rigid scarab]

This guy looks incredibly fun

[hidden ermine]

Nah, "worst" is going a bit far

There's been some real bad ones before

Its not great though

[rigid scarab]

I'm talking like

Ajani Mentor of Heroes bad

[lusty trench]

Gix into sheoldred seems to be the intended play

[rigid scarab]

Im seeing lots of cards that synergise with Sidisi in EDH

I happy

[trail anvil]

oshit powercrept lava coil let's go

[fallow citrus]

[[flame-blessed bolt]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/158/flame-blessed-bolt?utm_source=discord

Flame-Blessed Bolt <:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Flame-Blessed Bolt deals 2 damage to target creature or planeswalker. If that creature or planeswalker would die this turn, exile it instead.
"I noticed you were short on party favors, so I brought my own." —Higa, slayer-captain of Gatstaf

[fallow citrus]

I was gonna say it's a power crept version of this but it isn't a direct upgrade

[trail anvil]

this might be huge depending on how the meta shapes up, as fog with a potential better payoff

[fallow citrus]

oh god it's a common for pauper fog too

[trail anvil]

hopefully this serves nicely as a counter spell since it has an anti-aggro mode too

[zinc shard]

YOU WILL LIKE THIS PRODUCT DAMMIT - WOTC

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/aj9fw1twc6x91.png?auto=webp&s=1c651090c6a2a5a9272948013cc33868c0978bb0

Wow they really said "fuck Greasefang"

Sorcery

Target opponent reveals their hand. You choose an artifact or creature card from it, then an artifact or creature card from their graveyard. Exile both chosen cards.

[copper pecan]

good

[clever sun]

LOL

This is actually really fucking good not just against Greasefang

[copper pecan]

wait this card is crazy wtf

[golden plover]

Yeah that's super good in general

[clever sun]

Cling to Dust + Despise

[golden plover]

Tbf that's Brian Kibler presenting. He's said the packs should cost MORE before. He's all in on the speculator stuff

[copper pecan]

wait actually do they need to have a card in their graveyard to cast that?

if so then this isn't that great

but if not this is crazy

[golden plover]

Yeah it has to be able to hit both targets

Still very good

But it doesn't seem like it can fail to find a graveyard target

[clever sun]

Wait why does it?

It doesn't read like it does

[sudden lava]

Brian Kibler looks like they belong in a rock band now

[golden plover]

It might just be the quick translation, but the "then" seems to imply you have to do both

Lemme see if the English version is in the gallery

Oh wait it doesn't target the graveyard one

Yeah you can do it without there being anything in the graveyard

[clever sun]

It does but it is optional

[golden plover]

Nah it chooses the graveyard one

So it can fail to find, so you can do it

[trail anvil]

https://i.redd.it/t5cyxng1l6x91.png

[clever sun]

Oh hey

Luminarch Aspirant

[trail anvil]

I know white's 3 drop spot is contentious, but this is a pretty fuckin solid contender

[clever sun]

Yep

[trail anvil]

aspirant with a float

cause why not lol

[clever sun]

@twilit canyon Azorius Aggro?

Soldier Aggro

The question then is

Do you even run Thalia main?

Or counters main?

[trail anvil]

https://i.redd.it/4j6whu5ak6x91.png

we lit

[clever sun]

Yep

All of them are revealed now

Historic is gonna be incredibly artifact-based now

[twilit canyon]

just cus its free yea

3 duals in standard + a rainbow land for tribal

[hidden ermine]

How appropriate that that would happen in a Dominaria-based set

[clever sun]

Affinity is already tier one in the format

Springleaf Drum and good Red and Blue support for the two Affinity decks too and other good archive cards?

Wouldn't be surprised if some bans/nerfs come into play soon after

Liquidmetal and Lodestone for example

[golden plover]

Weird they went with costing over Torque

I know coating is more iconic, but torque is "fixed" in that it can't hit lands

[clever sun]

We are powering up Historic this set

Howling Mind

Defense Grid

[golden plover]

Yeah but they notably had the issue of Karn and Coating turning lands off

[clever sun]

Doesn't just do that

Karn can stone rain someone with coating

[golden plover]

I guess it's not a huge deal in formats without blood moon and the like

Yeah that too

But you'd think they'd wanna avoid that

[clever sun]

As I said

They are definitely looking to power Historic up

Historic is the only 60 card constructed format alongside Vintage where Lurrus is legal for example

I wouldn't be surprised if Oko is unbanned soon

[golden plover]

I'm honestly surprised they kept Lurrus over bauble

Lurrus causes more issues down the line, bauble isn't as likely to get banned

[clever sun]

Historic can nerf Lurrus

I'd like to see them nerf Lurrus to only cast 1 and 2 mana permanents

Which means Lurrus is a lot safer to co-exist with Bauble

and then nerf Yorion to be 40 cards

So a hundred card deck

[lusty trench]

This is going in my 1/1 counters atraxa

[clever sun]

Seems neat

[copper pecan]

there's no way they'd unban oko without nerfing him first

that card is miserable to play against

[languid quest]

Oko is cancer outside singleton formats

[copper pecan]

okay i asked a judge and apparently you do not need your opponent to have cards you could choose in both zones for this to work, because it says "choose" and not "target"

which means this is really, really strong

[lusty trench]

I just read that discard card

[golden plover]

Yeah, I didn't realize it was a choose on the graveyard effect

[lusty trench]

I'd put this up there with the greats of one mana discards

[golden plover]

It doesn't have to hit both

[lusty trench]

Like thoughtsieze

[golden plover]

So it's incredibly good

[copper pecan]

yeah

[golden plover]

Man I wish she was in the main set

Turns off blood moon effects

Probably a new green edh staple I guess?

Since you can fetch any land off things that fetch basics now

[lusty trench]

I'm sorry what that's such a cool effect

[golden plover]

You can crack an evolving wilds for any land with her out

[lusty trench]

Me about to fetch Tron lands

[golden plover]

Edh Tron time

[languid quest]

this card seems good

[golden plover]

It's probably very good

If nothing else, it turns off blood moon

And Boseju, and other forms of land removal

[languid quest]

yup countering all those is very good

[glad peak]

I’m actually happy this isn’t in the main set

[golden plover]

It might be too good, yeah

[lusty trench]

Yeah this doesn't feel very main set tbh, but I like the card

[golden plover]

But it'd be a neat answer to blood moon

[glad peak]

Imagine blood moon not being able to stop degenerate decks

Oh wait it sometimes doesn’t stop them already

[golden plover]

[[Myriad Landscape]] can grab 2 of them

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https://scryfall.com/card/clb/904/myriad-landscape?utm_source=discord

Myriad Landscape

Land
Myriad Landscape enters the battlefield tapped.
: Add .
, , Sacrifice Myriad Landscape: Search your library for up to two basic land cards that share a land type, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.

[golden plover]

Since they share "Urza's"

[glad peak]

[[urza’s saga]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/259/urzas-saga?utm_source=discord

Urza's Saga

Enchantment Land — Urza's Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — Urza's Saga gains ": Add ."
II — Urza's Saga gains ", : Create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with 'This creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control.'"
III — Search your library for an artifact card with mana cost or , put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

[glad peak]

Here’s a better one

[golden plover]

I mean for the goal of assembling tron

[glad peak]

Why would you want to assemble tron when you have saga

[golden plover]

That's true

[glad peak]

But yeah landscape works too

[golden plover]

Oh fun meme idea:

[glad peak]

Ash barrens can get tron lands too

[golden plover]

[[Wheel of Sun and Moon]] and fabled passage

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/shm/243/wheel-of-sun-and-moon?utm_source=discord

Wheel of Sun and Moon <:managw:292901508977000448><:managw:292901508977000448>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant player
If a card would be put into enchanted player's graveyard from anywhere, instead that card is revealed and put on the bottom of that player's library.
Every life ends, but life itself never does.

[golden plover]

Infinite landfall triggers

I guess use Scute Swarm or whatever to win?

[lusty trench]

So after checking my Ur dragon and atraxa decks... I probably shouldn't be storing them in cheap plastic deck boxes

[sudden lava]

search legendary lands, profit

[rigid scarab]

Honestly I say it depends on the deck whether this slots in or not

If your deck is filled to the brim with ramp it works

[twilit canyon]

yea the card is really bad overall

[copper pecan]

it seems really niche

[twilit canyon]

yea the big issue is that

unfortuntely

in commander

with the legality of

p much every card

we have actual broken cards that can tutor any land

[[crop rotation]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/161/crop-rotation?utm_source=discord

Crop Rotation <:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a land.
Search your library for a land card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
Zendikar's elves have developed innovative methods to mitigate the effects of the Roil.

[twilit canyon]

for example

or [[expedition map]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/255/expedition-map?utm_source=discord

Expedition Map <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact
, , Sacrifice Expedition Map: Search your library for a land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
"I use maps to find out where explorers have already been. Then I go the other way." —Javad Nasrin, Ondu relic hunter

[twilit canyon]

so if you are building a deck around a specific land

you already have infinitely more powerful tutors for it than a 4 drop that lets other worse cards tutor for it

[copper pecan]

i saw someone say that rootpath purifier would be good in historic brawl but i can't help but think about why you would ever run this when you could just have golos as your commander if you need to fetch any specific lands

[twilit canyon]

golos is banned

is why

btw that still doesnt sound amazing ngl

[copper pecan]

golos isn't banned in historic brawl

[trail anvil]

isn't this new card not legal for historic brawl anyways

[twilit canyon]

right nvm i was thinking of field of the dead

they banned that in hbrawl

golos in commander proper

[trail anvil]

iirc they did actually suspend/ban golos for a bit in historic brawl, but then brought him off the list again

cause he would fetch lands to meet his commander tax as usual

[trail anvil]

I'm surprised alloy animist is in green

[twilit canyon]

green can manipulate artifacts at times

[trail anvil]

I just feel like every time I've seen this exact eff it's been in monoblue recently

especially the 4/4 statline, that seems to be the golden ratio for wizards

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Union-of-the-Third-Path-265x370.webp

[trail anvil]

1 extra mana for only potentially more healing than revitalize doesn't sound worth it

[golden plover]

Yeah but it also goes net 0

Still not really worth it

[fallow citrus]

I wonder if it'd find a place in pauper turbofog

[copper pecan]

i feel like revitalize is basically always better than this

and revitalize already isn't very good

also

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1037037263730778214/Screenshot_20221101_171518.jpg?width=477&height=662

Sorcery
Create X 1/1 green Dryad Forest land creature tokens.

[golden plover]

Isn't revitalize also common?

[copper pecan]

yeah revitalize is common

[golden plover]

Because I don't see revitalize in anything in pauper

That's a HUGE dork

5 cmc is asking a lot for a dork tho

But it's usually gonna make like 10-15 mana

[copper pecan]

understandable given how large some of the creatures in this set are

[golden plover]

Yeah true. But you just don't wanna be using a 5 drop to ramp

[copper pecan]

true

[golden plover]

It'll probably be good in the right shell, but 5 is asking a lot

Also to no one's surprise, the 30th anniversary lair crashed and is likely gonna be sold out

[fallow citrus]

UW soldiers can't stop winning this set

[golden plover]

Oh this is actually way above rate for this effect

Compare to [[Blink of an Eye]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dom/46/blink-of-an-eye?utm_source=discord

Blink of an Eye <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)
Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. If this spell was kicked, draw a card.

[trail anvil]

it's only that you control

[golden plover]

Well creatures only usually costs 1

Oh true. Still potentially really solid

[fallow citrus]

Artifact creature - Angel (Rare)

Prototype 1WW 3/3

Flying

At the beginning of the combat in your turn, choose flying, vigilance or lifelink. Target creature you control gains that ability until the end of turn.

5/4

[golden plover]

Weird this one isn't the mythic

[copper pecan]

the angel seems pretty decent

i'll probably run it in giada in historic brawl

[fallow citrus]

the angel seems pretty good in monowhite aggro tbh

drop it and then give something a keyword

depending on the deck you can drop it, give something vigilance so it doesnt die to twe

[trail anvil]

rancor with fire breathing, cool

[lusty trench]

Flying and haste is huge

[copper pecan]

i don't think i've ever seen a mythic aura before

[trail anvil]

I'm sure there's been something

https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&rarity=+[M]&subtype=+["Aura"] apparently it's a recent thing lol

also I can't get this link to un-break for whatever reason

[twilit canyon]

Platoon Dispenser 5
Artifact Creature - Construct (Mythic Rare)
At the beginning of your end step, if you control 2 or more creatures other than this one, draw a card.
3W: Create a 1/1 colorless Soldier Artifact creature token.
Unearth 2WW
4/6

[golden plover]

Gruesome Realization is probably pretty okay

It's a worse Cry of the Carnairum that draws cards

[twilit canyon]

cant think of many x/1s in standard

if this was an instant

maybe

[golden plover]

Oh wait it's a sorcery

Eww yeah nevermind

[twilit canyon]

Bladewhip Transmogrant can’t block.

4BB: Return Bladewhip Transmogrant from the graveyard to the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it. This ability costs 4 less to activate if an opponent controls four or more nonbasic lands.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1037088877581713520/unknown.png

this is a really good [[scrapheap scrounger]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/kld/231/scrapheap-scrounger?utm_source=discord

Scrapheap Scrounger <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact Creature — Construct
Scrapheap Scrounger can't block.
, Exile another creature card from your graveyard: Return Scrapheap Scrounger from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Some machines refuse to accept their own obsolescence.
3/2

[lusty trench]

Honestly solid

[twilit canyon]

mono-black aggro is getting a few tools but idk if its enough

this cant beat over sheoldred

[lusty trench]

Ah mono black aggro, unable to defeat it's fiercest foes: other black cards

[trail anvil]

wait holy shit it works multiple times

graveyard trespasser is about to go back to a 4-of main

[trail anvil]

crucible of worlds is already pog, putting it on a body with a 1-time use from the grave is very pog

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466580311342448640/1037063325185487038/8bIOfcm.png?width=474&height=662

WOW

[lusty trench]

FUCK

[golden plover]

Thank God this is commander only

[sleek ferry]

This set looks like it’s bringing some new life to rakdos anvil

Might have to go back to it once it drops

[golden plover]

This card is only legal in eternal formats btw

[twilit canyon]

anvil isnt getting much to bridge the gap for it in standard

but in historic

its getting sword of the meek

which solves 90% of the issues that deck has

[golden plover]

She's back in standard and new to pioneer

This art is way worse than the original tho

Maybe it looks better irl

[lusty trench]

There any big cards elf tribal can use in standard rn?

[twilit canyon]

that would require there to be such a deck in standard rn

[clever sun]

Fauna Shaman is new to Pioneer which means it is time to ban Winota again

No but actually she might push Abzan Greasefang in Pioneer even further

Anyways

Decklist for a good format

This deck is card for card Modern Shadow bar a few cards here and there

Ragavan -> Evolved Sleeper

Mishra's Bauble -> Founding the Third Path

I have considered Footfall Crater there too

[golden plover]

Wait what does shaman do for Greasefang?

[clever sun]

Discard a creature find Greasefang

[golden plover]

I guess she turns stuff like wayfinders into Greasefang?

[clever sun]

Deck always struggles finding her

[golden plover]

Yeah true, but you're not running many creatures as is

[clever sun]

Has no issue milling boats and Parhelions into the yard

You can

Stitcher's Supplier, Raffine's Informant, Fauna Shama

[golden plover]

It lets you turn dead stitchers or wayfinders into her, which is nice yeah

[clever sun]

Undead Butler

[golden plover]

But I dunno how many copies you'd want

[clever sun]

Depends

If you are smart and on Yorion

4

If you are dumb and not on Yorion

2-3

[sleek ferry]

Can we get some merfolk, the 2 drop we got in dmu is so good if we just got like 2 more good merfolk

[sudden lava]

how many urza lands do we have?

[golden plover]

There's what, 7?

Yup. 5 in Black Border

7 total

You can bump it up to 6 with Thespians Stage

[twilit canyon]

alchemy just gave u an insanely cracked 3 drop to follow it up

actually merfolk for standard just needs more 1 drops and 2 drops

3 drops are solved with alchemy

[golden plover]

Man Brian Kibler is getting mocked so hard for that big reddit post

He's getting copypastaed a ton. It's kinda funny

[hidden ermine]

Reddit post?

[golden plover]

Kibler replied to a thing about magic30 with this

https://preview.redd.it/cw7i0dd7ddx91.jpg?auto=webp&s=b2ddc95b2ed980243c7cd60f59218a6c673785a0

Note he's previously said before that magic30 was too cheap

The original post is sitting at over -100 now and he's just getting made fun of everywhere for it because he keeps arguing about it

Brian is like peak investor dude, which makes sense since iirc he's into NFTs too

[hidden ermine]

NFTs

[golden plover]

Kibler is one of those dudes

[clever sun]

Interesting

This is pretty bad but could fit in Greasefang

[waxen timber]

It could fit in Esper Midrange in standard. Like Rafine makes this almost always a 2 mana 3/3 with menace that gives you a loot when it enters.

[zinc shard]

[[Mulch]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/210/mulch?utm_source=discord

Mulch <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Reveal the top four cards of your library. Put all land cards revealed this way into your hand and the rest into your graveyard.
"Tread carefully. You remember what happened in the last quiet, peaceful clearing." —Halana, to Alena

[trail anvil]

so much mill in this set

[fallow citrus]

my goyf deck is happy for that

[twilit canyon]

gnawing vermin is interesting enough

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1037193882187874434/Screenshot_20221102-103717_Facebook.jpg

sick

[trail anvil]

damn this actually really looks nice, constructed playable?

got the rage rope after the opponent thought I was making a mistake sacrificing before a block xd

sune's intervention is a fun card

ay fuckin yo now that's a pickup

[trail anvil]

I feel like this card gets real nuts real quick, especially with fetches

this is a cute way to bring Tron in standard

[glad peak]

Levitating statue is nice

[lusty trench]

Choose an artifact or creature you control, draw cards equal to its mana value, give control of it to an opponent

Each player reveals the top cards of their library equal to the number of non land permanents they control and puts all permanents they revealed this way onto the battlefield, rest go to the grave

Some doo doo ass cards

Why is the red one symmetrical

[sudden lava]

https://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Autonomous-Assembler.jpg

technically a bear

[twilit canyon]

Transmogrant Altar
3
Artifact
B, T, sacrifice a creature : Add CCC
2, T, sacrifice a creature : Create a 3/3 colorless Zombie artifact creature token. Activate only as a sorcery.

Giant Slagmaw
2R
Creature - Dinosaur Beast
Trample
Players can't gain life.
4/3

giant slagmaw might be the best red aggro 3 drop in standard

why is this 4 mana

[golden plover]

Instant Speed tokens are usually overcosted

[twilit canyon]

she was real

but she was 4 mana

i hate this

[golden plover]

I'm glad she wasn't 2

But I was kinda hoping for 3

Also the real one doesn't hit walkers

[twilit canyon]

no

she could have been a 2 drop

[golden plover]

Grand Abolisher does set the precedent

[twilit canyon]

at 3 or 4 she is unplayable

[golden plover]

But I doubt they'd want a 2 drop that does that now

[twilit canyon]

she is also a mythic

and legendary

and her tokens enter tapped

err

not fighting

[trail anvil]

dang this has some scary ceiling

I wanna play this card with a big mana generator

[twilit canyon]

its bad dont

6 mana draw 3 on a 5/4 is mediocre

all of it has to be blue

6 mana draw 1 discard 1 get a 6 mana 6/4 haste trample for that turn is also not great

6 mana draw 2 6/4 haste trample is also bad

6 mana discard 2 haste trample 6/4 is also mid

scaling is the best thing it has but it would require infinite mana to do anything relevant

[trail anvil]

fair enough, ig the flexibility isn't accessible enough

[twilit canyon]

baseline 6 mana and you need double pips per ability

thats the biggest restriction

[trail anvil]

do you think it would be better if it was something like "chose 3, you can choose the same mode thrice" without being reliant on the mana paid?

[twilit canyon]

yea

absolutely

cus think about it

to get a draw 3

its six blue

to get a discard 3 its 6 black

to get +3/+0 haste and trample its 6 red

but if you play 5 blue and a red or black you dont get the other effects and you only get a draw 2

4 blue red and black its the same

you only get a draw 2

[trail anvil]

the fact that this is on-cast is real nice

I feel like I'm gonna be seeing this card a lot in historic brawl since it procs on attacks too

Arms Race

3R

Enchantment

3R: You may put an artifact card from your hand onto the battlefield. The artifact gains haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.

[twilit canyon]

i saw it

didnt post it

not good

[trail anvil]

I wanna use this with the portal card

the 9 mana one

[trail anvil]

or maybe something with prototype

wait that's pretty nice

[twilit canyon]

indeed

[trail anvil]

wait you run the shit out of this in any self mill I imagine

the unearth eff basically has you popping any 2 cards in one turn

[copper pecan]

no it doesn't

unearth doesn't count as casting

[trail anvil]

o rip nevermind then

still a good card

why did it tap out all my black, autotapper please

oh fml it just did it at random cause I had no card to cast

[twilit canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931305913829195846/1037454416183308378/unknown.png

👀

[trail anvil]

jesus what lol

[golden plover]

Yo that's solid

[twilit canyon]

this is one hell of a firebreathing

[lusty trench]

Card seems cool in commander, 6 mana all three opponents discard 3 for a total of nine with a big body, then your on discard effects activate

[golden plover]

WAIT YOU CAN USE POWERSTONES FOR THE PUMP

Jesus that card is good

[twilit canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1037466171072585768/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1037461922192306197/unknown.png

[lusty trench]

Pump?

[golden plover]

On the shade

[lusty trench]

[golden plover]

Usually the pump on a shade is B

[twilit canyon]

firebreathing effects are usually the mana color yea

this one is colorless

[golden plover]

Shades grow instead of firebreathe

[twilit canyon]

yea its still a firebreathing type effect

[golden plover]

Yup, but it notably makes their toughness bigger too

Which is relevant

This might knock [[Graveyard Trespasser]] out of pioneer sideboards tbh

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/104/graveyard-trespasser-graveyard-glutton?utm_source=discord

Graveyard Trespasser <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Werewolf
Ward—Discard a card.
Whenever Graveyard Trespasser enters the battlefield or attacks, exile up to one target card from a graveyard. If a creature card was exiled this way, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
Daybound (If a player casts no spells during their own turn, it becomes night next turn.)
3/3

Graveyard Glutton
Creature — Werewolf
Ward—Discard a card.
Whenever Graveyard Glutton enters the battlefield or attacks, exile up to two target cards from graveyards. For each creature card exiled this way, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
Nightbound (If a player casts at least two spells during their own turn, it becomes day next turn.)
4/4

[zinc shard]

Mom can we play Tron?

We have Tron at home.

Tron at home:

[golden plover]

Oh hmm Greasefang is almost 1:1 on Arena now, isn't it

[golden plover]

Huh this is pretty neat

Almost wish it had unearth

I guess there's enough reanimator in the set

[lusty trench]

10 mana 15/15 feels eh but you can sac it to dodge removal at least

[golden plover]

Yeah it's not amazing, but it's cute

[twilit canyon]

is it just me or is there a lot of mythics in this set

and all of them are kinda trash

[glad peak]

I kind of like the colorless/color prototype cards

Great for cube

[twilit canyon]

they are fine for cube

but overall tehy kinda doodoo

Tread - G

Sorcery (uncommon)

Choose one —

• Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.

• Target creature you control fights target creature you don’t control.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1037495615346704404/image.png

[broken fjord]

This seems quite good in a few commander decks.

[glad peak]

Is this set just cube cards

So many cards are just really solid for archetype cubes and mid power cubes

[twilit canyon]

yea

nothing here feels super constructed playable

actually a fair bit of the soldier stuff feels tailored for standard

[glad peak]

Tread being removal while being able to simulate mh2’s landcycling is just peak cube design

[golden plover]

I think the ghost is playable, the black discard spell, and like there was one other thing I thought Greasefang liked

Fuck it, built Greasefang

Risky keep too

[twilit canyon]

yorion?

where snake

[golden plover]

I've never played the yorion variant

Went with mostly my irl list

[twilit canyon]

its better

trust

[glad peak]

Remember to always blink your angels and nothing else

[golden plover]

Risky keep was fine

They used the first cling to dust on Greasefang 1 instead of the Parhelion?

[clever sun]

This is the cube set yeah

A few playables here and there

But a lot less

[sudden lava]

chonk 😮

[glad peak]

BRO + mh2 cube actually looks solid

Mix and match your favorite archetypes and remove rg storm

[zinc shard]

I have several questions

[twilit canyon]

thats a baby

its like a weird ravenous squirrel

Creature — Wurm

Trample

Whenever a land enters the battlefield, create a tapped Powerstone token. (It’s an artifact with “{T}: Add {C}. This mana can’t be spent to cast a nonartifact spell.”)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1037586845300703272/image.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805846945947320320/1037590171077578823/IMG_9580.jpg

christ

[trail anvil]

oh hey tireless tracker's cousin

[trail anvil]

fucking exile jesus christ

that's a crazy 1 drop in the right siding situation

[twilit canyon]

just run it as a 2 drop

2 mana gain 2 exile non-creature artifact/enchantment

genuinely one of the most lowkey busted cards in this set

it really only took a few sets to powercreep [[masked vandal]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/184/masked-vandal?utm_source=discord

Masked Vandal <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
When Masked Vandal enters the battlefield, you may exile a creature card from your graveyard. If you do, exile target artifact or enchantment an opponent controls.
1/3

[twilit canyon]

outside of tribal decks

i think some more aggro decks will want [[outland liberator]] a bit more

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/190/outland-liberator-frenzied-trapbreaker?utm_source=discord

Outland Liberator <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Human Werewolf
, Sacrifice Outland Liberator: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
Daybound (If a player casts no spells during their own turn, it becomes night next turn.)
"Just hold still. I'll help you."
2/2

Frenzied Trapbreaker
Creature — Werewolf
, Sacrifice Frenzied Trapbreaker: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
Whenever Frenzied Trapbreaker attacks, destroy target artifact or enchantment defending player controls.
Nightbound (If a player casts at least two spells during their own turn, it becomes day next turn.)
3/3

[twilit canyon]

but that exile is just busted

[trail anvil]

oh wait actually we still have [[tear asunder]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/183/tear-asunder?utm_source=discord

Tear Asunder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)
Exile target artifact or enchantment. If this spell was kicked, exile target nonland permanent instead.
No one knew why the spiritmongers were so enraged by Phyrexian technology, but it was a stroke of good luck for the Coalition.

[trail anvil]

but you can reanimate that one to repeat it

[twilit canyon]

tear ass is good but

this guy can come back with lurrus

lurrus decks in historic for example

also any death trigger

can save it on board

it makes a big difference

tear ass is good into different things and in different decks

[trail anvil]

wait this doesn't say under your control lmao

I kinda wanna play this jund with the crucible of worlds creature

[twilit canyon]

it may be a mistranslation

we will see

[trail anvil]

nah it makes sense at 6 mana mythic tbh

but we'll see

[lusty trench]

Heads up for those that don't know, the prelease kits are split into urza and Mishra factions

[copper pecan]

the different kits don't actually have different contents

the only difference is the packaging

[sudden lava]

new commander for stompy green that ramps

mono color tho

[glad peak]

With this we can make a strictly better bears cube

Actually a lot of bears in this set do that

[zinc shard]

misread Stoneseeker for a second, almost lost my mind

[glad peak]

I mean it’s still a really good draft card

What did you misread?

[zinc shard]

I thought it created a powerstone token when it left the battlefield

[glad peak]

Oh yeah no that would be overkill

[glad peak]

No idea if a cube of a traditional draft environment but powered up is better or if a cube based on the broadest archetypes is better