for the one time I'm gonna praise wotc arena dev team, apparently with deathtouch now damage is auto-distributed as 1 to every creature besides the last?
#Magic the Gathering
trail anvil
it might just be with first strike too idk, but it did that with my sheoldred and that's pretty nice to have
fallow citrus
golden plover
Metahook banned in standard
Yorion in modern
fallow citrus
could have seen meathook ban coming from a mile away tbh
atomic harness
Ah rip
golden plover
Yeah, meathook was guaranteed tbh
lusty trench
Guaranteed meathook doesn't drop a penny in price cause the things still stupid good elsewhere
atomic harness
should prolly play more since I have 2 more days before it goes away in arena standard
Nyaruhodo
Hey thats a good rare
I'll get dia before oct 13 
sleek ferry
wait
meathook being banned means I get 4 mythic wild cards
lets goooooo
good choice of them to not hit kikijiki though
sleek ferry
yes
atomic harness
am gonna go abuse meathook some more tomorrow before it goes away
clutched a ton vs these weird boros aggro plat lists
atomic harness
it's very scary im ngl
every bungus has haste and they have that trample knight thing that changes night/day
also the indestructible gaining whatever, and the 2/3 bird
sleek ferry
I honestly just hate vsing mono blue and their 16 counter spells
atomic harness
I wanted to build rdw or some version of it because of blue yeah
but maybe ill just wait until brothers war to pick up a new deck
sleek ferry
I have a concept for gruul goblins, but it's not competitively viable unless we get some goblins in brothers war
fallow citrus
I hope we get some more merfolk in brother's war even if it's unlikely, I wanna play em in standard
sleek ferry
yeah but like i said, the buy in for alchemy is too high for me
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sleek ferry
send a deck list, i'll look at it
lusty trench
Man I gotta try more formats other than edh
But I'm a mono black player at heart and that's one expensive buy in
twilit canyon
[[goblin influx array]]
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Enchantment
Goblin spells you cast cost 
less to cast. (If it doesn't require , it costs 
less to cast.)
At the beginning of your end step, conjure a random card from Goblin Influx Array's spellbook into your hand.
twilit canyon
send a deck list, i'll look at it
i would have to get home to give a decklist
wait there is 1 more rare i think
influx array is a side card for the most part anyways
lusty trench
By the way what is Liliana of the veil doing in standard
sleek ferry
mostly nothing
lusty trench
Awesome
twilit canyon
she is doing something alright
sleek ferry
I'm running out of ideas for decks, might fuck around and make mardu vampires
twilit canyon
[[corpse appraiser]]
sleek ferry
you know what, that's a better idea, and i dont think I've played blue this standard yet
lusty trench
Building ninjas cause I got an absolute deal on a deck core for it
Shame sakashimas do not exist in the UK rn tho
languid quest
what WotC is doing
this isn't how one should handle important anniversary like this
golden plover
what WotC is doing
Limited time only $1000 packs of 60 random beta proxies
Definitely not, it's like the shittiest thing they could have done. Goes "oh yeah the fanbase that made this game last 30 years? Fuck them, give us $1000"
Also damn, I didn't even realize that Collector's Edition was $50
I knew the worlds deck lists were $20 a pop
trail anvil
god I can't wait for the meathook ban to take effect, hopefully it opens up the meta
honestly I kinda wanna get into more monored with it gone
golden plover
Man I didn't even know that for the 20th they had a from the vault which was 20 of the most iconic cards for $50
It's a card a year from all the 20 years at that point and this was an insane reprint value
glad peak
iconic cards
doesn’t have bolt
golden plover
Bolt wasn't in the worlds list at the time
Each of these cards came from their respective worlds list, with a booklet explaining what it did for the deck
Also most of those were the first time that art was used
lusty trench
The Jace alone back in the day more than covered the cost
golden plover
Yup. Crazy how 10 years ago, this was an actual product for the fans
And this year's "anniversary" content is $1000 proxies and an advent calendar lair of cards they cut from other lairs (because they'd be too good of value then) and both are limited run
Like the 30 card lair is cool, but the art tells me it was cards that were supposed to be the bonus card in lairs this year but would cost too much, and they're now being sold separately to the first 10,000 bots
Honestly, I'm convinced WoTC is going full gacha/investors at this point
Standard sets keep the people around for the whales to flex on
But when the $1000 proxies sell out instantly, they'll realize they can keep making more and more absurd priced products for mega whales only
They'll probably never stop making regular packs and shit, but their interest lies exclusively in the mega whales now
languid quest
it does make me disheartened to see MtG go this direction
golden plover
The proxy shit might as well have been NFTs tbh
Hasbro wants the shareholders to get more money forever, and it'll eventually compromise on the game
lusty trench
As a player who rejoined in AFR, Double masters 2022 cemented for me that there was no low they couldn't sink to
golden plover
I mean, looking at the quality control on Unfinity and the 40k decks, it looks like it already has
Also, the boxes for brothers war bundles have a huge "One transformers card in every bundle" and a transformers spindown now
So it looks like they're gonna just keep moving to more crossovers and more expensive cardboard with your favorite IPs on it, and let the game suffer because of it
lusty trench
It's amazing to me because the transformers cards are such... Eh cards flavour wise
languid quest
after they messed up TCG that they had made for that IP
golden plover
I hate that their art is just drawn to look like screencaps from the show
lusty trench
Like there's a lot you could do with a transformers magic card
And they just... Went with the first thing that came to mind
golden plover
It looks so lazy. Like I know it's original art, but it looks like something you'd see someone post on custommagic or whatever
languid quest
lol with TF TCG they used art from IDW comic books and from mobile game
golden plover
I'm curious how long it's gonna be until we actually get mechanically unique UB cards in standard at this point btw
Because I'm sure the game is gonna go full Weiss Schwarz from here
languid quest
ah yes, Weiss Schwarz, TCG that's mainly popular in Japan but no were else
golden plover
I'm gonna give it 2 years at most. When LOTR horizons sells super well, and the doctor who ones do, we'll get a slot in Eldraine 3 draft packs or whatever with a Futurama card in it
golden plover
ah yes, Weiss Schwarz, TCG that's mainly popular in Japan but no were else
Doesn't Weiss actually have miserable playrates? Like people only buy the cards for the anime characters and to use as tokens for other games
Weiss is exclusively a collector product, and it's honestly pretty clear that's what Wotc wants MTG to be at this point too
languid quest
in west? yes. in Japan? maybe
golden plover
I'm pretty sure Weiss is hardly played in Japan too
lusty trench
Iirc it's not top 5
languid quest
I would like to see they current top 10 for TCGs
lusty trench
Iirc Weiss is a mess of a game with some expensive ass cards that make the game hard to get into
The amount of product available in the west is also an issue iirc
languid quest
like is YGO still number 1 and how popular DM still is and of course how popular CFV is in there
Japanese Weiss cards are lot cheaper that's for sure because they open those more in there
golden plover
It looks like the top 5 are Yugioh, Pokemon, Vanguard/Bushiroad games, Digimon, and sometimes mtg
Nothing I'm looking at has Weiss anywhere above 7th most played tcg in japan
languid quest
western signed Weiss card can be $10 or $20 more expensive than Japanese one
golden plover
MTG is also only sometimes in the top 5
Depends on how big other games are at the time
languid quest
Bushiroad tend to have strong grip in there
golden plover
Yup
languid quest
they also advertise CFV a lot
lusty trench
I'm amazed vanguard has survived considering its meta's have been egregious and it's had to reset twice due to power creep
Iirc they're now on the second series of overdress?
golden plover
Sidenote, but I was mildly concerned about the limited number of BRO archive foils (each being numbered X/500) but with the anniversary packs thing, they're probably gonna move more into sports card territory too with those
languid quest
YGO stays on top in there mainly because of nostalgia
golden plover
I wouldn't be surprised if the numbered foils thing happens every set in the future
And various specific alt style treatments
Sports cards have been doing it forever and it's always a big cash grab for them
languid quest
I'm amazed vanguard has survived considering its meta's have been egregious and ...
I would say that CFV's power creep isn't any worse than YGO's
lusty trench
Yes but YGO has the nostalgia train backing it
Also I've never seen a format in YGO in my time playing it as bad as zodiac time beasts
languid quest
ZTBs were mistake from Bushiroad pure and simple
copper pecan
I wouldn't be surprised if the numbered foils thing happens every set in the fut...
honestly good
if these end up working the way masterpieces did, it will make standard a lot cheaper to get into by driving down the price of everything in the sets other than the numbered foils
languid quest
honestly for alt art treatment numbering would make lot of sense
lusty trench
I'm fine with collectors stuff in regular packs cause it makes the normal cards easier to get, so long as they have easier to get versions that aren't as pretty
Like Digimon has alt arts or rare chase cards so people go for those, and thus the singles that aren't those go down in price
golden plover
Yeah, it'd be fine if it helped drop the price of the regular versions (like pokemon does)
But there's the way sports cards do it too where it doesn't affect the regular ones
The rest of this 30th stuff and BRO is looking to be a mess for sure tho
copper pecan
it's way too early to say that bro will be a mess
we've seen like 3 cards from the set
golden plover
I mean, Bro might not be bad card wise, but they're doing some fucky stuff tbh
Like I said, it's weird they have the transformers stuff taking main priority on the set bundle
Not even gonna have a set bundle dice, it's transformers themed
lusty trench
Gonna be honest was hoping for urza Vs Mishra theme dice
golden plover
I like the set dice. I usually pick up a bundle just to have some cool dice variety
But this one is unfortunately transformers themed instead
lusty trench
I like that furnace golem art at least
golden plover
Yeah that art is pretty cool
Wish there wasn't a "transformers card included" right on top of it tho
lusty trench
I want to see some old dominaria dragons
Show us new versions of the elder dragons
lusty trench
I just realised they can shoehorn nicol bolas into this
golden plover
Theoretically, yup
I think if we're gonna see a dragon tho, they'd be Chromium
[[Chromium]] could use a good card tbh
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Flying
Rampage 2 (Whenever this creature becomes blocked, it gets +2/+2 until end of turn for each creature blocking it beyond the first.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Chromium unless you pay 
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7/7
golden plover
Both of his suck
golden plover
Yeah
lusty trench
Maybe they'll be a new artifact dragon
golden plover
Urza is already in esper, so it'd make sense to have some support for him in the main set
lusty trench
I just want more dragons for my dragon deck tbh
(I am fighting for slots at the moment yet am greedy)
golden plover
Imma eventually proxy a deck for every color combo and Esper has nothing I'm super interested in rn
It'll probably be new urza, but Chromium could be fun
lusty trench
Gonna be honest I'm not impressed with either urza or Mishra from the precons
The urza is good but like... In the 99 good
golden plover
Mishra is really good actually
You can copy stuff with a name change
Using like [[Gonti's Aether Heart]] for extra turns
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Legendary Artifact
Whenever Gonti's Aether Heart or another artifact enters the battlefield under your control, you get 
(two energy counters).
Pay , Exile Gonti's Aether Heart: Take an extra turn after this one.
Despite the magic that sustains Gonti's life, the crime lord is often described as heartless.
lusty trench
Mishra I don't doubt has good synergies it's just... Not how I imagined grixis artifacts
golden plover
Yeah that's fair. But we do have other options for artifact grixis already
[[Silas Renn]] and someone like Jeska or [[Vial Smasher]]
golden plover
LMAO WOTC flagged my Makeplayingcards order for using this back
Oh it still shipped. They just flagged it for no reason
lusty trench
Lmao
atomic harness
the boy himself
lusty trench
When the leyline is binding
atomic harness
we're getting there
golden plover
I just realized [[Vexilus Praetor]] is the only creature with "Custodes" for a typeline
copper pecan
why even have astartes be a creature type
golden plover
Honestly
They should have genericized all their creature types
Just have the Marines be human or mutants if you really wanna argue that
Necrons just be skeletons
Tyranids just be Horrors or Beasts
And then there's cards like Vexilus where he is the ONLY custodes
He's likely one that would get a UW printing too, because he's probably gonna see a lot of play in anything with white that cares about the commander
copper pecan
alien is literally a creature type now so i don't know why they didn't use that for the tyranids
golden plover
Meaning they'll have to make a different creature type for another single card
Oh yeah, Alien is. Just use that tbh
It's not like every ikoria monster or anything got its own creature type
Hell, they didn't give the stranger things kids Gamer (which was at the time silver border) despite it being thematic
golden plover
True. Sorta wish he was acorn only but I feel like the whole set would have benefited from that
Could have been way wackier with stickers if they're supposed to go on during the draft and never come off
Especially considering the stickers sorta fall apart after one use
Oh lmao they messed up the border in this lair even
Good ol WoTC QC
(Reflector Mage has the legend crown)
languid quest
I do like that art for Azami
golden plover
The art is sick
But it's just funny they messed up the printing on one of 4 cards in the set
Actually considering Unfinity and Warhammer, that's pretty standard
languid quest
lol does WotC want to compete with Bushiroad when it comes to misprints
golden plover
It's probably just they shit out product so fast now they don't care about quality control
Old misprints used to be expensive, but if you get the wrong stamp on your unfinity card or anything, it's just "yeah half of them have that"
languid quest
that is yikes
golden plover
Tbh I'm sure that about 1/4th the cards in the $1000 packs are gonna be misprinted somehow
languid quest
oh for sure that's more than possible
but WotC and Hasbro won't care because they have gotten whales' money
golden plover
Honestly, I'm surprised with how many misprints and wrong cards have been in the 40k decks tho
Like usually, a few people will find an extra land in place of a rare or something, but it's better like 50% of the decks have missing cards and dupes
languid quest
that makes me want even less to buy any of those 40k precons
golden plover
Gotta love charging $20 more and having more errors than usual
languid quest
one of Neo Dynasty and New Capenna precons were already really bad when it comes to dupes
sudden lava
I need help remembering a card name
I remember it being a red legendary creature (?) that when something takes 1 damage it takes like 2 more damage on top of the 1 damage
golden plover
Aesthetic Neutral, Printing Rebel
golden plover
I remember it being a red legendary creature (?) that when something takes 1 da...
[[Torban]]
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Kreatur — Kor, Krieger
: Kreaturen, die du kontrollierst, erhalten +1/+1 bis zum Ende des Zuges.
Das Seetor-Expeditionsgildenhaus wurde nach der Entdeckung der Himmelsfestung über Tazeem gegründet. Jetzt wehen seine Banner über ganz Zendikar.
1/2
sudden lava
huh, couldve sworn it was a different card? But technically this works (maybe there is multiple with this effect?)
ty
golden plover
There's [[Molten Immolation]] too that's similar
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golden plover
Not sure what the name is. There's a 6 mana enchantment that doubles damage
[[Fiery Emancipation]]
lusty trench
That's a super nice build around
golden plover
Oh thank god the post Malone lair is Godzilla styled and not his deck
(if it was his Zur deck you'd see it in like 5 years)
lusty trench
Post Malone phyrexian agent confirmed
golden plover
Now they always say compleations
Also, I think the "wizards realized the deck looked like shit with 50 foils, 50 non-foil" theory is the reason they've delayed the deck for ALMOST A WHOLE YEAR
Because if it was the coin, they'd go "oh yeah we're having issues with the coin" but they can't blame anyone else for the decks looking like shit and falling over when it's their own foils causing the issue
And they haven't said anything because obviously they don't wanna look bad and admit their foil quality has been shit forever
twilit canyon
super disappointed we wont get mechanically unique post malone cards
languid quest
after all this time they don't seem to bother to improve they foiling process
golden plover
after all this time they don't seem to bother to improve they foiling process
The funny thing is, foils used to be fine
Compare any foil pre-2015ish to any modern foil
The old ones don't have any issues. It's only 2015 onwards that they're nearly unplayable
It's also an English only problem. The Japanese printers don't have foil issues
lusty trench
I have a resplendent angel from 2019 promo stamped that had been sitting in a box for 2 years unsleeved
Not curled or dented in the slightest
I opened a collector's pack of unfinity and it looked like I had just received cards from a pringles can
It's to the point now I consider foils undesirable
languid quest
I have never been big on foils outside games like YGO and CFV for practical reasons unless it's special like Judge Promo Avacyn or full art Deathless Angel
languid quest
yup
lusty trench
Angels are so based
languid quest
those two are there among my favourites in my collection
lusty trench
...? Got plenty of tribal support
golden plover
It's to the point now I consider foils undesirable
Yeah I'm honestly at the point where I prefer non-foil every time
lusty trench
More than a lot of tribes
I mean it's not like merfolk goblins or elves but
It's up there
glad peak
I’m talking about human tribal support
golden plover
Angels are arguably the most supported white tribe
glad peak
It makes more sense if you put the two sentences together
languid quest
they are there with soldiers
lusty trench
Ah I get it no worries
Best I can give you is a human lord angel
Honestly I need to do a double check on all the angels and dragons released cause every time I think I've seen them all I get surprised
Like midnight hunt has 3 mythic angels
languid quest
there is also this one [[sigarda, heron's grace]]
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Legendary Creature — Angel
Flying
You and Humans you control have hexproof.
, Exile a card from your graveyard: Create a 1/1 white Human Soldier creature token.
4/5
lusty trench
DO I HEAR 4
golden plover
Chaos Warp?
Genuinely no clue on this one?
And a separate set of 5 lands for $30 lmao
twilit canyon
i think u should unplug from magic
zinc shard
is he signing every land?
twilit canyon
yea cus i see nothing wrong with this
this is a collectors item
for a very popular artist
no vital game piece is being sold here
golden plover
I mean, I think it's fine. It's just kinda funny they still do that
twilit canyon
why
golden plover
is he signing every land?
The lands are fake signed, not actually signed
twilit canyon
it makes logical sense
zinc shard
figured
golden plover
5 lands for $30 is a ridiculous deal for basics, but they've literally always done it with lairs
twilit canyon
and those lands then hold even more value
golden plover
The Godzilla ones are $10, no one breaks $5
glad peak
Let people pay the amount they want for their silly cardboard
twilit canyon
yea
glad peak
If they want to spend 30 then let them
golden plover
It's fine tho because it's just full art lands. It's just wild that it's $30 for a basic of each color in all these land lairs
twilit canyon
the godzilla lands are also just not the most appealing lands for everyone
glad peak
If they want to spend 1000 then let them
glad peak
People spend hundreds on getting people to sign their cards
twilit canyon
but if it upsets u that they even exist please just stop playing magic or interacting with magic
its clearly not making u happy
glad peak
Literally spending money to damage your cards
clever sun
Only from someone extremely famous like Post would I be okay with someone signing my card(s)
glad peak
Good news
zinc shard
he's just expressing his opinion. abit rude to tell someone to stop playing cuz they want to criticize part of the game.
glad peak
You can get cards with his skins
clever sun
he's just expressing his opinion. abit rude to tell someone to stop playing cuz ...
No I disagree
People need to unplug from stuff that no longer makes them happy
It's one thing to express an opinion
glad peak
It’s more rude to continuously imposing your hatred for something instead of seeing it and moving from it
clever sun
Lord knows I have my criticism over recent WotC decisions
But I also won't stay mad about it
Like I don't play Yugioh anymore cus that game and the direction it moved into didn't make me happy
I don't go to banlist threads or gen_ygo or MD Chat to complain about every last decision done
zinc shard
guess i missed him doing that
glad peak
He does it literally every day
clever sun
Quite literally 90% of this thread is just complaints about Magic
Or arguments about X new product
or X format
languid quest
people still have right to express to opinions regardless does some other people like it or not
clever sun
Sure
glad peak
All of them being super cold takes that anyone would’ve heard millions of times already
languid quest
we are not some hive mind after all
clever sun
Correct
clever sun
This does not mean you are entitled to also then trample on and complain ad nauseam
glad peak
Not just pope’s
clever sun
If someone is not enjoying something the best thing for one person to do is to disconnect from said thing and move on
You can come back later on
maybe not
But why spend time being miserable?
or upset?
languid quest
because there is still some aspect of game that they still enjoy?
clever sun
Doesn't matter
If the majority the things around a game upsets me I'm just not playing it anymore or engaging with it further
glad peak
I don’t have a problem with complaints, what I do have a problem with is when people do the same thing over and over again with the punchline being “haha money”
Just like how he hates “haha amogus” jokes
clever sun
Yeah basically
I have my own set of complaints regarding new product releases
and foil quality and nany more things
But I also recognize that going on about it endlessly is pointless
Personally, because I will be spending money regardless
So my complaints are useless if I'm still buying about one or two cases per set
languid quest
If the majority the things around a game upsets me I'm just not playing it anymo...
that's the thing. that's you, not pope ACAB or anyone else in that matter
clever sun
Correct and if someone wishes to spend their life bitter about things
Sure they may
But that is also why I have mod powers here and can curate the space I have here
glad peak
They’re free to be upset all the time but we’re free to criticize them for being upset all the time
clever sun
Just as Misty is free to tell them "Hey it might not be in your best interest to always be upset at a hobby of yours"
glad peak
Anyways I had a funny commander game with randoms that started with them having tons of salt
glad peak
Turn 2 cursed totem on my board and they complained they couldn’t play and attacked me every turn with… 4/4s and 5/5s
clever sun
I feel like I need to get some sort of marker or indicator on the times Keranos bolts someone to death
languid quest
honestly no one in here will convince each other that they view is only correct one so at end of day arguing about this leads to nothing
glad peak
So I made a deal with them, for me to kill my own totem and everyone will not kill me for a certain amount of turns and they all agreed
Little did they know, turning on their mana dorks meant handing the krenko player a 30 minute turn where everyone except me died and I killed him on the crackback 
Bad threat assessment strikes again
clever sun
Poor threat assesment is the biggest killer in all games of Commander
glad peak
Yeah idk why they get mad at the only thing keeping them alive
golden plover
honestly no one in here will convince each other that they view is only correct ...
Nah I'm dipping. I like magic, the gameplay is great. But I just can't stand what Wotc is doing to the game. I should disconnect. Too bad there's not any card game that's really similar tho
clever sun
Yeah it's good to take a step back and down the line who knows
Maybe you come back
if not at least it isn't making you upset anymore
golden plover
Maybe. I feel like management for the game would have to change for that. I'll probably still go to my lgs here and there, but it's probably best not to keep up with it anymore
languid quest
right but still it was rude from Misty to demand that you should disconnect from game just because he didn't like your opinion
golden plover
Nah, it's fine
It's been a long time coming
Sidenote can threads not make me follow every time I reply
glad peak
As much as we clown you, we’re not coming from bad intentions, it really isn’t heathy dwelling on things that make you unhappy
golden plover
I've left the thread, any time I say anything about it, it auto follows, which is weird but whatever
languid quest
Sidenote can threads not make me follow every time I reply
you can silence channel
clever sun
Yes commenting auto follows
I forgot I made a comment on the OW thread and it auto-followed too
Hmmm one sec
golden plover
As much as we clown you, we’re not coming from bad intentions, it really isn’t h...
I know. I get that. I just disagree about the game and stuff at this point and it's unfortunate because I wanna like the game and enjoy it, but I just feel like I need to step back
clever sun
Yeah it's what I experienced with Yugioh
Didn't like how the game went
Wanted to keep liking it but I knew
if I kept going it would have made me more miserable
golden plover
Yeah, at least with yugioh it was kind of a more gradual decline for me tbh. Like I just stopped caring about formats and now the card loop is a mess
Magic was kinda "oh here's a ton of bad decisions and a ton of good ones" so I just kinda kept hoping the good ones would win out
sleek ferry
At least magic gives you options. You don’t have to like every meta but there’s got to be one meta that you at least somewhat enjoy
languid quest
with YGO I mostly keep up because of nostalgia
sleek ferry
Yugioh is currently in the darkest times it’s been in in over a decade
And there’s no end in sight
clever sun
At least magic gives you options. You don’t have to like every meta but there’s ...
It's different if it is an issue with how WotC is running Magic as a whole
golden plover
At least magic gives you options. You don’t have to like every meta but there’s ...
I still like pauper, edh, and pioneer yeah. The issue is how wotc is running the game
languid quest
as far as Magic goes I still like playing EDH so I haven't stopped playing it
clever sun
So for me nothing enough to get me to drop this game
golden plover
Like I'll keep up with my formats, but it's impossible to play magic without having to interact with that kinda stuff now
clever sun
Like I have a big complaint with format management
Sure we just had a banlist for Standard and Modern
But Pioneer, Legacy, Pauper and Alchemy all could use some sort of change
languid quest
unfortunately that stuff is every were so you can't really avoid it
golden plover
Yeah, it's not limited to a single format or anything
And yeah, nykthos should have gone too this list
I know it's a cornerstone of the format, but when half the decks are devotion, it's a bit too present
sleek ferry
Idk about the other formats, but it makes sense that standard, modern and edh get preferred treatment since they’re the most popular ones
clever sun
Pioneer Fable of the Mirror Breaker is definitely too good and so is Nykthos
Pauper combo might be too good (again)
Legacy Delver feels the most oppressive and yet painfully dull it's been
Alchemy has the same issues Standard has which is insane to me given they can literally rebalance stuff and change it back if it's wrong or too far
golden plover
Isn't Murktide also like sorta creating issues of being entire arhcetypes in legacy rn?
languid quest
Nykthos is basically staple in devotion so it tends to be required in those
golden plover
Nykthos is basically staple in devotion so it tends to be required in those
It's the core of the deck. The issue is the deck is too much with no real checks now
Like sure it dies before it can pop off against faster decks, but it can kinda do everything faster than the rest of the field
sleek ferry
My only issue with standard right now is the post DMU format feels like it got solved way too fast, and now we’re stuck in a stale format
glad peak
Honestly modern is pretty healthy and didn’t need a power related ban, even if the 4c decks were boring
clever sun
Expressive Iteration also continues being the best spell in every format it's in
I'd say EI is the best card in Vintage atm too
glad peak
Yes yes mh2 or whatever but that was the point of that set and it made the format much more interactive
clever sun
Only Commander is really saved but even then it's just because the strength of cantrips and stuff is weaker there
Yeah Modern is in a good spot
4c is boring but it is whatever
clever sun
No
Card was pretty broken but fun
I wish it got a Historic buff
Unlike Chariot, Luminarch, or Faceless Haven
It is definitely too far gone from Historic playability
Same with Divide by Zero but mostly because of the counters it competes with at the same cost
sleek ferry
We’re in that weird period in standard where after goldspan we’ve gotten a red legendary dragon like every set, but all of them are mid af
Like uh moonveil whatever the fuck is called
clever sun
Overcorrection
Oh Moonveil is great
This Standard has too much card advantage to run though
So Moonveil is a bit useless
And in Alchemy it fits weird on the curve
sleek ferry
Yeah that’s mostly what I mean, only other red dragon that sees some play rn is shivan devastator
And that’s very eh
clever sun
Turn 2 Whelp turn 3 four drop is the dream
Is Moonveil the one you want? Ideally it curves into Darigaaz or Rith and then you draw 3 to refresh
But the issue then lies in that your 3 mana play is vital to either ramp or interact here
sleek ferry
I’m not sure what Izzet and Mono Red need right now, izzet is probably closer to being meta relevant though, mono red is going to get gatekept by sheoldred unless they get something big
Meathook ban helps though
clever sun
I don't think you need Red in Standard for Blue
sleek ferry
Yeah mono blue already does things
clever sun
Same with Alchemy. Just make your mana consistent
sleek ferry
Mainly be obnoxious as all fuck
clever sun
I think the deck itself is medium
But it attacks an angle that the current decks suck fighting against
sleek ferry
Yeah, I mean I think the deck is fine, but holy shit the deck represents all the blue stereotypes
clever sun
Fair lol
sleek ferry
Misty gave me the idea of grixis vampires and after doing some research, I decided I hated all the builds on YouTube
sleek ferry
They’re fun if nothing else, been messing around with ratios and stuff, having access to certain blue cards makes some matchups way easier which I like
clever sun
I can whip up the decklist again in a bit
If I play Arena I'm playing Alchemy or Historic though
sleek ferry
I’m basically only logging in to do daily quests and then logging off
clever sun
I do play more than just daily quests
But I'm not grinding to Mythic monthly
Too busy
sleek ferry
I had a nice little push for mythic last season, but then got caught up with projects at work so yeah
I live vicariously through Ren
clever sun
LOL yeah
I'm watching Misty and Ren get to Mythic before the halfway point of the month and Idk
It makes me a bit proud
sleek ferry
Well we know Misty is great at the game, I’m more proud of how good Ren became so quickly tbh
You guys guided him, he listened and now he’s chilling
clever sun
Yugioh knowledge transfers for sure
lusty trench
Yugioh knowledge transfers for sure
This would explain why I'm bad at magic too 
twilit canyon
magic knowledge also transfers to ygo from my experience
i really had an easy time getting a hang of yugioh
clever sun
I am slightly more surprised you actually liked Yugioh lol
glad peak
Sometimes you have to take a good hard look into the abyss
And sometimes the abyss stares back
And you like it
twilit canyon
ygo is objectively shit, unbalanced mess
but thats what makes it kinda fun at times
opp will set up the most disgusting unbreakable board and i will draw the exact outs and lague
*laug
laugh
glad peak
It’s like playing fighting games and playing a kusoge for shits and giggles
atomic harness
twilit canyon
just diviner of fates as the only nerf in alchemy for tomorrow
and honestly deserved
going from a 2/3 to a 2/1 so it dies to more thingd after conniving is good
twilit canyon
it be like that
atomic harness
I like the game but man flooding sucks. I was 1 win away from dia now im back to where I started
atomic harness
mm alright, I only have a few hours until meathook goes though I think
atomic harness
so yea im trying to get dia before that
twilit canyon
they are free rn
atomic harness
mhm
atomic harness
oh rly?
twilit canyon
you will be facing a lot of aggro cus it will finally be free
but that just leaves esper in a more proper position
cus esper actually has life gain
atomic harness
do you have an updated list? 
twilit canyon
a lot of the other colors relied on meathook vs aggro to gain life
meathook and sheoldred
to be precise
but esper naturally has dennick and interceptor
emperor
as life gain
atomic harness
I did pull a third dennick
twilit canyon
this is where im sitting atm
im primarily playing alchemy esper or historic izzet
but anytime i dip into standard this is what im on
also i really gotta replace the shitty non-full art on the lands and get the dennick and destroy evil styles
but yea this deck is great
maybe 2 farewells is too much
but u dont have the consistency that alchemy esper gets
twilit canyon
yep
u need to have the bulk vs midrange
like my list destroys midrange mirrors
this build however is also very strong into aggro
4 cut downs
2 march
3 dennick
4 interceptor
2 emperor to gain life
interceptor and dennick are also gonna carry raffine counters
copper pecan
*just* diviner of fates as the only nerf in alchemy for tomorrow
god i'm so glad they nerfed it
it was way too strong
twilit canyon
ya
diviner of fate is my baby but
card had to get nerfed
i like this nerf a lot actually
didnt weaken the ability
just hurt the defensive capabilities of it
twilit canyon
diviner of fates is 1 of the best midrange cards ever made tbh
atomic harness
[[diviner of fates]]
twilit canyon
yes they stack in multiples
so going t3 diviner
discard draw 1 that shares the same type
t4 diviner #2 discard
draw 2
that share that same type
and yes they trigger off any discard
twilit canyon
or that lili + is going -1
your own lili?
it draws u a card
[[calim djinn emperor]] discards itself for his ability?
you are now infinitely more likely for calim to be a 2 mana 5/6 ward 2 flyer
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Flying
Ward
Calim's Breath — , Discard Calim: Tap up to one target nonland permanent. Draw a card. Then you may exile two other cards named Calim, Djinn Emperor from your graveyard. When you do, return Calim, Djinn Emperor from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
When you discard Calim, conjure a card named Calim, Djinn Emperor into your library seventh from the top.
5/6
atomic harness
I'm a little short on the rares, one sec
twilit canyon
oh yea dw about alchemy esper midrange
this deck is def more expensive than other alchemy decks bc its a midrange deck
so it wants you to go ultra greedy
atomic harness
wow thats a pull
not sure what rares to prioritize and im prolly gonna run budget options over the missing stuff
twilit canyon
a suggestion to shore up missing cards
go 7-1 or better whenever an open comes up
those 2500$ do a ton to patch up cards
hell even 6-2
thats 1k
iirc
clever sun
You gotta go through a day one and then a day 2
It is not as simple as "Just win the 1-2.5"
It is possible though
atomic harness
aye
swolenick
also im surprised I dont see cemetery prowler more, first time running into it
3/4 vigilance non targeting gy hate chungus that also cheats mana
for 3
dude spammed like all 4 on me this game
twilit canyon
green is just kinda whatever in standard rn
also
trespasser has it beat soooo much
same mana cost
way more splashable
ward - discard
twilit canyon
flips into a 4/4
eats for a drain
flipped eats 2 for drain 2
yea it just does a ton
atomic harness
Yeah trespasser is best girl
hmm maybe if prowler was 2G instead of 1GG?
but then you're playing green 
atomic harness
green is just kinda whatever in standard rn
what caused this btw? lack of crazy tools in standard? like last time I was giga malding because they were super insane with snakeskin and like questing beast
and the whole adventurer 1/1 asshole draw guy
twilit canyon
they lost a ton of cards
check their cards
they dont have creature lands
ranger class is gone
they are just
mid
sleek ferry
Green needs meaningful 2-3 drops that makes it so something besides defiler/titan are threatening
twilit canyon
yea
sleek ferry
Like why would I play green instead of green white
twilit canyon
standard mana bases are just boring atm
atomic harness
Green needs meaningful 2-3 drops that makes it so something besides defiler/tita...
Prowler 
atomic harness
ironically meathook hasnt been helping me in any of these games
goal completed misty caster
I wanted to test out spell pierce again, I haven't drawn it all that much so I can't tell if it's any good or not. Circle of confinement has been extremely good
rip meathook 
twilit canyon
make disappear is ok
but this deck just doesnt wanna counterpsell
cus lili puts pressure on your hand
atomic harness
oh hmm
so counterspells are just better in the side yeah when you know you rly need it in the matchup?
since like negate/stroke are v nice
in g1 you kinda just prefer removal on threats
twilit canyon
yep
g1 you want removal and wincons
g2-3 against a control heavy deck
where you can afford to go slow
and need to keep them off specific cards from resolving
thats when you play counters
atomic harness
since meathook is gone does that mean I have to play the cleave thing
or that enchantment that nukes all 2 drops
twilit canyon
theres a few things
atomic harness
the lifegain loss is sucky sure but esper always had lifegain so its fine
twilit canyon
path of peril is good bc it can become a full on sweeper
depopulate is just a sweeper
farewell is solid but expensive
atomic harness
yeah I dont think I can rely on farewell
peril might be the move
[[path of peril]]
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Sorcery
Cleave (You may cast this spell for its cleave cost. If you do, remove the words in square brackets.)
Destroy all creatures [with mana value 2 or less].
To Olivia's guests, a welcome. To everyone else, a warning.
twilit canyon
i am playing both peril and farewell
bc farewell is better in the midrange mirrors
while peril is better vs aggro
which u must respect
twilit canyon
i hate magic players
im up 7 minutes vs mono-red
im playing fucking esper
how
up 8 now
this is so dumb
9
10
all that to concede
been testing historic decks atm
done for tonight but rakdos is def powerful
very swole very strong
running decks like a league
5 matches
stats for this league
this puts me at mythic top 300 for the month
and i think im gonna make a legit push to #1 this month
its been a long time coming
my highest ever is 137
is this the deck that im gonna do this with? idk yet
its this or izzet
no other historic deck feels nearly as good as these decks besides goblins
but people are gonna be hardcore prepping for goblins
like this deck is pretty adept at beating em with all the removal and molten impacts
the other big decks are azorius and boros affinity
both of which im fully prepared for
shatterstorm and hidetsugu consumes all are insanely good in historic rn
slight thoughts on no chandra: i didnt miss her
shes not bad
but i felt every single card i ran in this 75 was extremely impactful in all match ups and i cant think of a point where i would have rather had chandra in one of those slots
this is a very adult decklist with so many 4 ofs and the few ones that are less than 4 ofs being cards you dont want as 4 ofs main
so intentionally hurting my consistency in impact plays by splashing say
2 chandras as fun-ofs would have easily cost me matches
right the match ups real quick:
1st was vs golgari midrange. extremely easy. my card quality > their card quality. i easily dredged through them game 1. game 2 they left discard spells in for some reason but pulled ahead after i missed a few lands. game 3 i showed them why you side out discard spells in midrange match ups as i kept accruing card advantage with my topdecks while they drew ioks and ts.
2nd was vs jeskai lotus: they turn 2ed strict proctor i immediately cast kroxa into it and they conceded. g2 they couldnt answer 2 bloodtithe harvester on board as they spent the rest of the game countering lilis and fables and a kroxa and died.
3rd was vs azorius affinity. game 1 i beat them by removing all their permanents as they came in and then locked them out of cards with citystalker + fable as they tried to topdeck to come back. g2 they got ahead as i flooded and then closed the game out quick with nettlecysts on thopers. g3 i hidetsugu'd them and then shatterstormed them on their recovery and they died.
4th was vs mono-red: the aforementioned piece of shit took forever g1 but died to my own beatdown and i won by the skin of my teeth at 1 life with graveyard tespassers gaining me a lot of life. g2 they roped me for like 10 minutes and conceded to sheoldred.
5th game was vs mardu sacrifice and this match up was fucked. game 1 they made all the wrong plays into graveyard trespasser and then they never saw a 4th land. g2 i overwhelmed them with trespassers and seasoned pyro and then they finally cast a yawgmoth and died to burn from kolaghan's command and trespasser burn.
twilit canyon
and inquisition of kozilek
amd seasoned pyro
these are modern cards lmao
so is shatterstorm tbh
atomic harness
black eating good in historic huh
atomic harness
[[citystalker]]
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twilit canyon
[[citystalker connisseur]]
twilit canyon
also graveyard trespaaser
*trespasser
lowkey the 2nd card that carries hardest besides fable
sleek ferry
I've been really liking Falkenrath Forebear vs mono blue as a way to keep tempo vs them
especially since half these players just sit on 2-3 open mana at all times
atomic harness
[[forebear]]
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atomic harness
[[falkenrath forebear]]
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Creature — Vampire
Flying
Falkenrath Forebear can't block.
Whenever Falkenrath Forebear deals combat damage to a player, create a Blood token.
, Sacrifice two Blood tokens: Return Falkenrath Forebear from your graveyard to the battlefield.
3/1
sleek ferry
god Cemetery Gatekeeper shits on selesnya so hard
lusty trench
Jesus that post Malone one is value
zinc shard
is Totally Spaced out only in Foil?
lusty trench
Probably cause it's in galaxy foil
zinc shard
yea shame... good lands but not worth $50 to me
lusty trench
Might pick up the post Malone one for the medallion alone, and the yoji shinkawa one because GOD DAMN
fallow citrus
hot damn the junji ito and yoji shinkawa ones are so good
lusty trench
Junji ito sadly isn't for me, but I'm super happy he got one cause his work is legendary
hidden ermine
Wait, Yoji Shinkawa, is that the guy who did the iconic Metal Gear artworks?
atomic harness
Post malone pog
sudden lava
the stitchers supplier is cute
languid quest
I have seen Post Malone in Game Knight but I have no idea why he is supposed to be big deal since I am not American and I don't follow mainstream music genres
maybe that makes me ignorant that I don't know who some famous person is but so be it
glad peak
He’s a meh song guy who was popular for a song or so
Very good at leveraging that to get into edh shows though
twilit canyon
post has had some of the biggest pop/hip hop hits of the 2010s
sunflower, congratulations, white iverson, psycho
rockstar
trail anvil
also wow and circles
glad peak
Don’t know those ones
languid quest
like I said I don't follow those genre
lusty trench
Had a commander party at my lgs tonight
We had two hours to play a game
I won in ten minutes
languid quest
I assume it was cEDH since you won so fast
lusty trench
No I just had a cracked hand
Sol ring, mana cost reducers the whole kit and caboodle
glad peak
I remember doing the same because someone flooded the board on 3 and I happened to clear it with extra damage coming from toralf
He got pissed real quick
Something something “blasphemous act is a cedh only card”
lusty trench
Something something “blasphemous act is a cedh only card”
That must be why it's in multiple precons
There was a DMU sheoldred player
Nearly killed us using puzzle box and underworld connections
I managed to win thanks to a turn 3 terror of the peaks which spiraled from there
The deck I was using was Ur dragon tribal
copper pecan
tbh a big part of why i stopped playing edh was i got sick of having to watch people get into arguments over what does or doesn't count as "cedh"
a lot of the time it seemed to just be "anything that wins against my deck is cedh"
or that any removal or countering is cedh
or that attacking before turn 3 is cedh
languid quest
IMO it's certain builds and combos that make it cEDH, not any single card
I mean I have used and seen many cards that you see in cEDH also in casual EDH decks
copper pecan
the straw that broke the camel's back for me was when someone said that me using [[shriekmaw]] on their llanowar elves was cedh
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Creature — Elemental
Fear (This creature can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or black creatures.)
When Shriekmaw enters the battlefield, destroy target nonartifact, nonblack creature.
Evoke (You may cast this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.)
3/2
languid quest
not to mention Path to Exile
broken fjord
Had some fun games last night. Won a game on turn 5 thanks to krark(though he wasn't the commander). Seething Song into Jeska's Will into full Jaxis combo.
golden plover
Had a game at my lgs last night where they were on gruul urza and pithing needled top t1
Went exactly as I expected while I searched for my abrade/vandalblast
That gruul girl is kinda nuts
(Gruul urza is Meria)
atomic harness
or that any removal or countering is cedh
does that mean my cute obscura mafia girlboss sphinx demon is cedh 
copper pecan
apparently a bunch of cards just got errataed to have surveil or landfall if they had functionally identical effects
glad peak
Yep
Pretty cool
Sure people are saying disinformation campaign is too good now but
No it just isn’t that good idk what people are on about
copper pecan
yeah disinformation campaign isn't going to see competitive play
glad peak
Turns it into a decent build around like a weaker kiki combo or opposition in lower power cubes though since the surveil errata cards are good enough for cube
Grim flayer having both surveil and delirium finally makes it a retroactive grandpa to drc
lusty trench
I would like to build a surveil deck now
hidden ermine
Poison counters
copper pecan
i mean
lusty trench
Thrumming bird reprent is nice
copper pecan
if they didn't bring those back i would be shocked
sudden lava
the thrumming bird is pretty
copper pecan
also these are almost definitely legit
lusty trench
Oil counters are neat
sudden lava
compare to its old art
lusty trench
Most definitely just more interactive energy though
sudden lava
lusty trench
Which iirc was its main complaint
sudden lava
wait the reprint added a type onto it
copper pecan
the guy who is listed as the artist for one of them (idr which one) says on his instagram profile that he's made art for wotc but according to scryfall no card with art by him has currently been released
also oil counters are probably just a one off thing and not an entire set mechanic
they do stuff like it every set
lusty trench
What does that mean
copper pecan
they can just randomly show up in sets now even if it's not a major theme of the set
like how prowess just sort of randomly shows up sometimes
glad peak
Random question: when does hasbro generally start shipping product
Let’s see if I can a friend to snipe packages
clever sun
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945646524710942/1030927308627902464/...
FINALLY
waxen timber
Now cards like dimir spybug or thoughtbound phantasm can get massive with the help of channeler
I kinda want to make izzet breach surveil now
I think breach, channeler, [[enhanced surveillance]] and a 0 cost that saccs gets your whole grave in deck
waxen timber
And if you have 2 channeler or 2 enchaned surveillance in that set up you should be able to win since you can mill the entire deck while getting enough mana to cast thassa's oracle you mill
copper pecan
copper pecan
wonder what toxic does
lusty trench
Might give you a poison counter?
copper pecan
also that card is gonna be very good in historic brawl probably
lusty trench
Cause this is above rate for a myr rock
copper pecan
i don't think they do named mechanics that are entirely downside anymore
except for defender but that was sort of grandfathered into the game at this point
lusty trench
I have zero clue what it could be then, it's likely something to do with poison counter given the name but... I don't know
copper pecan
i guess it's probably a variant of infect/poisonous
twilit canyon
i am willing to bet it is just poisons you or itself after some turns
lusty trench
Something I would like but is pretty much definitely not happening due to how niche it is is complaetion counters, get enough on a planeswalker and they get removed and you gain control of it
hidden ermine
My guess is if it dies, it gives your opponent a poison counter?
I don't think it's a drawback, but I also struggle to think of a variant of infect/poisonous
atomic harness
New keyword 
hidden ermine
That they could still do
atomic harness
Is it not common to put reminder text on new stuff?
lusty trench
My guess is if it dies, it gives your opponent a poison counter?
If so that seems... Abusable
hidden ermine
We have dealing damage in poison counters
And we have doing poison counters on damage
What else is there?
lusty trench
Is it not common to put reminder text on new stuff?
It's the alt art, alt arts don't get reminder text
hidden ermine
Well, at least not all Alt arts do
atomic harness
Do we have regular art of myr convert
lusty trench
No only alts so far
hidden ermine
Its a leak of a test card, and seems to be a set of alt art test cards
So its unlikely
lusty trench
I'm trying to view this under the lens of elesh norn, and the on death poison counters makes sense tbh
lusty trench
Artifact recursion is strong but it's not strong in standard rn iirc?
lusty trench
Trying to think of how to recur it with ashnods but coming up with a blank
copper pecan
my guess is it's infect but it gives a fixed amount of poison rather than scaling it to power
hidden ermine
Thats already what Poisonous is no?
copper pecan
poisonous doesn't do -1/-1 counters to creatures though
lusty trench
Trying to think how they're going to do the new elesh, considering the last one was a considerable pie break
hidden ermine
Why even give it 2 attack then though
copper pecan
so that it can't just win the game out of nowhere with a combat trick
copper pecan
it would do the poison counters in addition to the damage
hidden ermine
So just Poisonous + Wither?
copper pecan
ye
hidden ermine
Idk, that seems too similar to Infect to not just ... do infect
copper pecan
a lot of people really hated how infect can just end the game out of nowhere with combat tricks
lusty trench
A lot of the used combat tricks just... Give infect though
lusty trench
Inb4 they make elesh norn "if you were to gain life, gain double, if an opponent were to gain life, gain half"
hidden ermine
Pretty sure infect never did anything in standard
copper pecan
infect didn't do anything in standard because people were focused on all the busted artifacts that were in the scars block
hidden ermine
Tbh, dont see it doing much better in a modern standard metagame
Theyre not gonna print an unblockable one
lusty trench
Huh I just thought of something elesh norn could be
Something Thalia like but it reduces cost for you
copper pecan
yeah i could see them doing that
lusty trench
Works with the way elesh norn "recruits" and rally's people, makes it hard for people to be motivated to fight against her (and thus cost more to cast), where as it's easier for her
trail anvil
man I have no idea how people actually complained about meathook being knocked out of the meta
monowhite, red and gruul getting more space in the meta should be nothing but fantastic for diversity
trail anvil
completely unrelated but holy shit monored feels so good, I've been undefeated bo1 throughout all of gold so far
fallow citrus
I mean I can understand people not wanting to see monowhite anymore lmao
copper pecan
i'd prefer mono white existing over like 50% of all decks in the meta running black
trail anvil
I can't understand it lmao, monowhite is actually a pretty easy deck to handle
especially in bo3
fallow citrus
it's just a boring deck
and considering monowhite aggro was the best standard deck until sets rotated I don't think people are over the moon to see it back
could be wrong though
trail anvil
I don't even remember tbh, I checked out for a lot of that format
fallow citrus
I'm pretty sure it was at least the most represented deck
alongside the funny izzet goldspan deck until that got hit and then rotation happened
sleek ferry
I have 0 issues with decks running black
White though, it feels as if white has everything rn
trail anvil
really? I'm still seeing a lot of monoblack
atomic harness
Real Aeri pog
atomic harness
goldfish telling me mono blue delver is a real deck rn
in standard?
fallow citrus
ye
atomic harness
I've run into it a few times it's super gross to fight
t1 delver/consider then insane godcurve
then they play the topless flying shtstain
imo it's the hardest deck to play against
atomic harness
Yeah. They have a billion instants that do so much for only U
shore up, slip out the back, fading hope
theres also march of swirling mist to clean up the game
I think the only deck that has a good time vs it is like RDW
twilit canyon
my opinion on blue delver is that the deck is very very prone to good card density
trail anvil
I think it was even better when meathook was around cause it really liked going into midrange like monoblack
lots of nice stuff to counter and prey on decks that prioritized lots of advantage cards
trail anvil
graphical glitch? my opp only paid W for this with no other effects applying
waxen timber
Are you playing standard or alchemy?
trail anvil
standard
trail anvil
(I'm never playing alchemy unless it's one of those free events they have at the start of each balance change format)
atomic harness
Mood komi
twilit canyon
probs a glitch then
viral marsh
What’s the best way to play a commander deck online before buying it
fallow citrus
cockatrice probably
you can join spelltable games using moxfield and obs if you want to
viral marsh
Thanks
clever sun
Proxies are not a bad idea either
sleek ferry
Professor posting actual cedh content on his channel? https://youtu.be/s6wS8YSudj0
What world is this
Also Cam is my guy, never heard of the other 3 though
trail anvil
hell yeah inject it straight into my veins
copper pecan
honestly it's kinda wild how many early magic characters didn't get cards despite being super important to the story
sleek ferry
Cemetery Gatekeeper takes a massive dump on mono blue @atomic harness
fallow aspen
glad peak
Mountains in deck