#Fighting Game Chat

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small furnace
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yeah i wasnt a fan of tl

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it was okayge

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tho it made me just want to play the original

pearl zodiac
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cut all the melty blood originals to "clean up" the roster
release FOUR fate characters
tease len
abandon the game

shrewd furnace
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I’m just glad with the death of that game Michael Jackson will be back in the reboot

pearl zodiac
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I've become extremely disenchanted with type moon as a whole for what they've done with prioritizing their gacha game over anything else

worthy crystal
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Which ones are rider and avenger

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Ushi and Nash?

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The answer is yes though

small furnace
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uhh rider is the girl iirc ushiwakamaru

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avenger is the hat guy

worthy crystal
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Clearly they weren’t confident enough in the ip to stand alone

small furnace
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idr them exactly

worthy crystal
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Oh count of monte cristo

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Isn’t mash a fate character too

small furnace
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oh i think so

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wait shes in type lumina?

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i didnt even blink at her being there ngl lol

worthy crystal
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Yes

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Generationally bad dlc run

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I think they had no faith in melty as an ip but their idea of how to compensate is what actually led to such a bad rep for the game

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Though the actual gameplay mechanics were unfortunately not great either

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It’s tough bc mbaacc is a very hard shadow to stand in

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More melty fans wanted a new patch than a new game

small furnace
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yeah and on one hand

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i get it

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on the other

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i see them hosting their grand finals in the bathroom

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this is probably not inspiring for type moon to listen to an audience of 4 ppl

worthy crystal
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Yeah I mean it’s complicated

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So much of mbaaccs following is bc it’s free

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So obviously in person tournaments will do bad

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But mbaacc online tourneys have outlasted titans of the community

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It puts up better numbers than bbcf and p4

pearl zodiac
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they just changed a bit too much about melty at its core beyond just the roster I think

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mbaacc air game vs mbtl air game is night and day

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like obviously if you're making a modern fighting game you can't have moon styles unless you want development to take decades but them straight up deleting characters like nanaya was very questionable

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also deleting ryougi from the game because she's from knk but then adding saber was kinda ???

worthy crystal
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And part of that is making everything else feel so bad

pearl zodiac
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yeah the game honestly feels more like uni which is like the only game french bread was making since mbaacc but it's still eh

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idk the moon gauge also just feels kinda off and idk what they were cooking with awakening

shrewd furnace
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I wish tl felt like uni, I would’ve liked the game more

cosmic forge
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@vivid furnace @late frost alex situation is worse than we thought

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In Japanese the line actually reads:

Before I knew it, she wasn't my baby little sister anymore...

vapid lake
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@analog nova

gaunt cloud
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Y'know capcom, maybe you did have a point in never releasing AA7

vapid lake
gaunt cloud
vapid lake
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And then make it real

gaunt cloud
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The actual twist that would serve would be making manfred x gregory doomed yaoi

vivid furnace
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they legit couldve just done childhood friends to lovers

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no cousins

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no familial relations

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no 10+ year age gap

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like dont get me wrong i do like questionable relationships in media because its fun to dissect and analyze those kinds of dynamics but i tend to draw the line at cousin fucking and possible grooming 😐

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every once in a while reddit does a funny though

faint ice
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Man these are all demon groups

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Group C with 4 evo wins even

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No idea who's making it out

worthy crystal
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@faint ice I haven’t been keeping up with strive is millia actually good again or is LK coping

faint ice
worthy crystal
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Did they make her faster?

faint ice
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walter one of the best millias na only plays online really goes to 2 offlines and gets 2nd at both (he's also just nice af)

worthy crystal
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I saw they made kapel faster now which is crazy

faint ice
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no not faster but she was always "bad chipp" or the upsides were not worth ignoring her downsides etc

worthy crystal
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Ahh I see what you mean I misunderstood

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It kind of looks like she’s actually threatening in non H disc situations which is sort of always what she struggled with in earlier patches

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I poked around a little bit in training and the S Disc knockback change is crazy she just pulls up on you

pearl zodiac
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did they give millia back hairpin

worthy crystal
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Kapel is hairpin for real American patriots

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Anyways I also saw that 6h(1) kapel is + is this true??

faint ice
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She's not i-no but she is hitting you for real off stray touches

worthy crystal
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I guess I can just check myself but if so that’s a little fucked up

faint ice
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ngl idk her frame data well

worthy crystal
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It used to be like

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+1 I wanna say?

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Which meant u could just dial in IB and guarantee punish

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But dustloop said +3 which on a character with a 4f button that can sort of kill u on CH that’s a little fucked up

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Also on an unrelated note I feel like venom players have to just be downplaying

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This char feels so crazy whenever I play

pearl zodiac
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wasn't he like a 1:1 import from xrd

faint ice
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nah

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xrd he can teleport and do more with balls

pearl zodiac
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oh they got rid of his teleports

faint ice
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I don't think he's the worst character in the game

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but the input output is so shameful

worthy crystal
faint ice
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you have to not accidentally do the wrong combos and deal negative damage wasting meter

worthy crystal
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But it feels like 90% of why ppl think he’s bad is bc HC kind of cooks him

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Like every trouble I had playing this character wasn’t anything abt his actual kit beyond bad defense

pearl zodiac
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I tried playing bedman with some friends a couple weeks ago and wow that character is just so weird

faint ice
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bedman is cool

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I gave bed a decent bit of play near release and getting the right followup is satisfying (after the j.s buffs ofc)

faint ice
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like dark angel is hella broken super and supposed to carry, but ur on venom

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when u drop giganter kai, you're playing POT

worthy crystal
faint ice
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carcass is fine I wish air carcass was better

worthy crystal
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Idk about fine

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It was fine before they made both versions + and give conversions on stray hits

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Now it’s like actually a very good move icant

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By data it’s like actually better than +r/xrd carcass

faint ice
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and it almost needs to be better!

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there's too many wild savages in this game!

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we're fighting slayer with positive bonus!

worthy crystal
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If you’re fighting slayer with positive bonus a better carcass isn’t what makes that situation better unless the buff involves making it a DP icant

faint ice
worthy crystal
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The actual quality of venom moves isn’t really the issue command grab notwithstanding it’s literally just his defensive profile and a v unfortunate MU spread

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But ppl talk about this character like he’s worse than release Faust icant icant icant icant

faint ice
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to be serious,

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I would rather a juiced carcass than a juiced stinger

worthy crystal
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But like stinger is v strong in this game carcass is extremely strong in this game he has crazy mash etc

faint ice
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stinger bot isnt even fun

worthy crystal
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He just has the Bridget issue but

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He doesn’t move like that character does

faint ice
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the vision on command grab gotta go, idk give him negative penalty just let him do real damage

worthy crystal
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They can actually make his command grab rlly good but chat might not like my solution to that

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(Make air carcass guard crush)

faint ice
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now that's an arc sys idea

worthy crystal
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Or just make his j.d faster so he can threaten actual high low

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/ or make the cancel to carcass from j.d safer

faint ice
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there's also something troll about set

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I forget

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It's like slower to set and do a normal than full set or something

worthy crystal
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Yeah full set got a huge recovery cut and normal set didn’t

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But normal set is still fine in certain MUs

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It’s just a weird situation where like balls don’t hit extended hurtboxes which you see most often on characters that are easier to set balls in neutral against

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So you don’t see them in neutral which they clearly wanted to be part of his game

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But idk I just think this characters offense is better than ppl give credit for

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And ppl pretend his 2p isn’t god (it always is)

paper notch
lunar depot
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So

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How are we feeling about Alex in SF6?

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His theme is a bop, but his story mode...

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🫤

analog nova
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Well, he's redacted in my mind

gaunt cloud
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SF6 about to be the first game to receive patch notes for the story mode

round creek
cosmic forge
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He fucked his adoptive sister

analog nova
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so like why was he racist in 5

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is he trying to speedrun the aryan ubermensch trope

round creek
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… was he??

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I remember his story in 5 being to the tune of “ahaha we are the evil bads and we have trapped Alex in a training room simulation thing he can never leave now”

Alex proceeds to be so strong as to break the simulation, leaves

“… well fuck”

analog nova
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see's one floating guy who asked calmly
MUGGER

round creek
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He’s from New York to be fair

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Also tbf

This is deadass how half the fights in SF just happen in the voiced stories

analog nova
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how often does a guy see a floating indian man asking for something

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in new york

round creek
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in SF, more often than you’d think lmao

analog nova
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hmm

round creek
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Like this really is not “let’s write Alex to be racist” it is “these two characters have literally never met and have no reason to fight but we have to justify it for a story mode, why do they has fight”

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“idk Alex is from New York and they’re in New York, maybe he thinks he’s a mugger?”

“At’ll do.”

analog nova
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it's in the same realm for me as
when deku frame 1 thought piccolo was a villian in jump force

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just by looks

round creek
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Like I am very much all for slandering Alex right now but this is getting read into way too much lmao

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Especially when they are a few actual instances of horrendous racism in the series

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(See also a weird amount of the rival fights in 4, El Fuerte, T. Hawk to some extent, etc)

analog nova
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btw has anyone actually played alex in sf6

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i have heard jack shit about his gameplay

round creek
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He’s a stance character now

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SF6 really hates charge motions

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Guile is the only one who’s still full charge

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So they shifted him to stances for some of his moves like the stomp and his grabs

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Ngl his combos are kinda neat but barely anyone’s posting them for obvious reasons lmao

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His grabs are apparently more finnicky than Marisa’s but his tools for getting in appear to be a bit better for the most part

analog nova
lunar depot
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instead of "go! Alex"

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folks are going "NO! ALEX!"

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I guess

vivid furnace
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she looks so goddamn good

languid cradle
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Strive 2.0 trailer in less than 12 hours wooooo

gaunt cloud
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Strive auto combos lets get the bag

worthy crystal
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What would the auto combo even be icant

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Hit f.s twice and it cancels into a special move gg

gaunt cloud
worthy crystal
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Wild assault. TWO!!!

gaunt cloud
faint ice
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I do think the game is getting modern, but we'll have to see

worthy crystal
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I struggle to imagine how much more modern it can get

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Simple special inputs maybe but that’s prob it

gaunt cloud
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Screen overlay telling you if you or your opponent are in c.s or f.s range

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At all times

worthy crystal
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Honestly that would be lit ICANT

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I just hope 2.0 makes the UI less weird

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And maybe reduce the CH screen thing icant

languid cradle
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Well there’s no way granblue doesn’t get a season 3 now surely

faint ice
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Granblue doing a capcom style cygames cup

faint ice
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They're porting GG overture??

languid cradle
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This is the most exciting patch I’ve ever seen

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Removing wild assault and replacing it is so fire

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Can they please stop adding side characters to tokon

worthy crystal
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Jam looks like jam

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I’m hype

faint ice
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I'm cool with Peni in tokon

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she's in rivals and ppl like spiderverse

mellow palm
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Holy nago move

faint ice
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that awt check must have been nice

mellow palm
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She’s probably the most unique in terms of stuff that actually translates to gameplay

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Would’ve been cool to see like 2099 or something tho

pearl zodiac
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wait can someone give a quick rundown on the strive changes

languid cradle
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Details for the major update "Ver. 2.00," "Season Pass 5," and the newly participating character "Jam Kuradoberi" were announced at the "ARC WORLD TOUR 2025-2026 FINALS" held in South Korea.

Ver. 2.00 will feature comprehensive battle balance adjustments, the addition of new special moves for select characters, and the introduction of a new "Co...

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Only thing not in the trailer is uhhh wild assault is removed and jam and Robo ky next two characters in that order

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Oh and

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Twitter is complaining jam new design is woke icant

pearl zodiac
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oh a

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battle pass

worthy crystal
wicked quarry
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I hope we get holy orders? with Robo-Kys release

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Also they might actually have deleted guard crush, HCs powered up shots didnt guard crush

faint ice
faint ice
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Im potentially scared of the compensation change he got after curse was blocked

languid cradle
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It looks like in compensation for removing the guard crush he can spend an extra bullet after steady aim to gain extra plus frames so he can rebuild tension

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Or reload

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So basically what was free before now costs an extra bullet

languid cradle
# worthy crystal Do we know what it actually does

I mean in the trailer we see him use it and his blood gauge be basically full yet even after teleporting he doesn’t pop his blood gauge stays the same and his command grab only removes half blood gauge instead of all of it

languid cradle
wicked quarry
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Nah I mean Robo Kys first theme

languid cradle
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Oh lol

wicked quarry
gaunt cloud
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Looking back at the trailer

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Did asuka throw out a staff without spending a card?

faint ice
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yes

gaunt cloud
# pearl zodiac wait can someone give a quick rundown on the strive changes

Tldr is:
Nago sol ky and leo are getting a new special move

Battle pass

Wild assault got removed from the game, in its place there's an extension you can only access during the counterhit screen freeze, costs 50% burst and gives wallbreak

Jam and robo ky as upcoming dlc

Changes go live on april 9th

faint ice
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I think staffs are getting removed from his book

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and becoming a special

gaunt cloud
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I may need to actually pick strive back up

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Holy

faint ice
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2.0 looking really fresh

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I'll probably change character after it

worthy crystal
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And the cmmd grab change can just be balance

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Locks him out of blood rage sounds enough like a move he’d get though

gaunt cloud
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Wonder if the pass rewards are permanently missable

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Would suck if so

worthy crystal
gaunt cloud
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Who did you play again? Ram?

worthy crystal
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Millia icant

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Anyways the HC bouncy bullet thing from the trailer looks horrifying

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They might lean back into making him an actual zoner

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But if that’s what curse does they might be getting rid of rng shots

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Well just have to wait for patch notes ig

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Did they say when?

gaunt cloud
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They didnt, worst case scenario is when 2.0 is live ig

worthy crystal
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Does jam not have a release date??

faint ice
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There's gonna be a stream talk thing like on the 7th

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That's what's known so far

worthy crystal
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That’s what I was looking for

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7th is prob when we get notes or something

shrewd furnace
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Oh hey robo’s back

vivid furnace
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you love to see it

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(dead game btw Dinkkappa )

worthy crystal
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Or are we just transcribing ancient texts

worthy crystal
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Strive server got nuked again worrysad

pearl zodiac
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like the discord???

worthy crystal
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I guess they fixed it again

faint ice
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whats going on over in NA??

faint ice
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Saw a post where this new mechanic is already a Lucy buff

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she can force counter hits mid combo so she gets unique usage of counter blitz

worthy crystal
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Oh true that’s actually sick

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Unfortunately it’s also sort of a slayer buff

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Well potentially I guess

faint ice
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UNIVERSE COUNTER BLITZ

worthy crystal
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I mean the nice thing is that we know nothing about it

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So for all we know it won’t work with stuff like that anyways

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It can’t be done from light CHs uncancelable normals or specials

worthy crystal
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New aki stuff is sick @faint ice

faint ice
worthy crystal
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Ya

faint ice
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Yeah it's definitely the type of character she seems to fit

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It's so interesting SF is getting stuff like this

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cuz ppl were saying even on launch "who did they borrow JP from"

worthy crystal
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I’m not sure why it took how many years now to start making characters actually interact uniquely w drive like that

faint ice
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I feel like it's kinda leaving the realm of "SF" gameplay

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like blanka is about as wacky as they're willing to get

worthy crystal
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Gang I’m gonna keep it real as soon as sfv made characters interact entirely uniquely on a character by character basis with v system it stopped being in the realm of old sf

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And then we stopped being in the realm of old sf even more when they made the fullscreen pull up mechanic that also turns every hit into conversions and pressure

faint ice
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Yeah it's true it's the system game

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I guess anything goes as long as it's connected to the system

worthy crystal
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Even in SF4 focus let some characters pull up/dip out unbelievably harder than others

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Compare rose FBD to like idk

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Fei long

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And some characters (Elena) had direct synergies in their kit with how focus worked

pearl zodiac
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I've been enjoying Mai a bit too much I need to get back to playing Jin and Hibiki

pearl burrow
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We apologize for any confusion that recent topics regarding Alex's story may have caused.
︀︀While we have not changed the characters’ backstories,after internal review by the development team, we plan to revise certain text passages that may have been misleading in the near future.
︀︀Additionally, we have published a supplementary episode on “Buckler’s Boot Camp” to provide further insight into the characters’ emotions and backstories.
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velvet wren
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Shoutout to my favourite character interaction ever

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Blanka v El Fuerte from SFIV

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Unintentionally firing the ultimate shot against luchador culture

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As much as Blanka only saw a luchador for the first time with El Fuerte, it was funny to me

pearl zodiac
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character so absurdly cool it almost makes me wanna play kof

gaunt cloud
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Are they still cousins

vapid lake
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The change was making Tom a deadbeat btw

gaunt cloud
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Incredible

vapid lake
analog nova
round creek
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Why did it take them this long to confirm this lmao

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Why did they randomly drop the teaser for this with no context MONTHS ago

vivid furnace
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thats a wild pull for a crossover tho

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i aint playing the game but damn

vapid lake
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will they have kenshiro be a cousin cracker too?

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yes different game, but hush

vivid furnace
shrewd furnace
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Eyyyy siivagunner’s back

worthy crystal
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I wish hftf had a modern rerelease

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Can we get a capcom collection for that game holy

small furnace
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goated ass game

vivid furnace
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first two dlc characters are immortal and the lightning lady from the new season

round creek
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Does anyone have that old clip of a demonstration of how Blitz Netcode works

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Captioned something to the tune of “WHO CARES IF THE PLAYERS ARE IN SYNC?”

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Struggling to find it unfortunately lmao

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I can find CastleSuperBeast discussing it but not the actual clip

wicked quarry
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God she looks sick as hell

worthy crystal
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Oh this character is gonna make people mad I can already feel it

paper notch
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Only then is she a proper adaptation of her league design clearly

wicked quarry
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Oh absolutely

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But tbh I think she is the kind of character the game needs

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Very flashy, makes for good content

faint ice
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very cool super

pearl zodiac
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april fool's

gaunt cloud
faint ice
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Its pretty cute

vivid furnace
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totsugeki gamers

worthy crystal
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Did any of the dustloop pages get April fooled

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I know about the millia blocker game

vivid furnace
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there's fgc balatro

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yes, in fact

worthy crystal
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Dbfz does this every year

vivid furnace
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oh

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first time im seeing it

worthy crystal
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It’s a cute thing

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I think some of the descriptors are diff each time bc diff people do them

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But the ideas the same

vivid furnace
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this is peak though

worthy crystal
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Real

fervent dragonBOT
# worthy crystal Real
Landmine!

Get pinged, idiot!
You've been hit by 2 mines today! Here's a Shifter to commemorate this!

worthy crystal
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lol

vivid furnace
wicked quarry
worthy crystal
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Idk if u saw btw but avatar launch roster revealed @faint ice

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Azula was obligatory but suki is sick

faint ice
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Yeah I saw

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Funny seeing people reacting to zaheer

worthy crystal
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Ok but who is that

faint ice
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The sol players are scared they cooked hvv for the new move

wicked quarry
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Oh they removed clean hit

pearl zodiac
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SIDEWINDER

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BUT NO CLEAN HIT

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

worthy crystal
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It literally says it has clean hit

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No clean hit on hvv is fine icant

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Clean sidewinder HKDs which was the main thing for clean hvv

worthy crystal
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They gave anji fish and barely changed anything else in his kit

faint ice
worthy crystal
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Clearly not as big as fish was because anji is demonic now

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And he still deals a gazillion damage

faint ice
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They came together clearly

worthy crystal
faint ice
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Thing is these are all silly buffs but they add on to his kit

worthy crystal
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Remember when they took away 236s hard knockdown

faint ice
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Sol players (obv with most dramatic reaction) see this as a trade

worthy crystal
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Remember what they took from you

faint ice
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Clean hit for new move

worthy crystal
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Sol players are the most obscene downplayers in the entire history of guilty gear

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And also do they not have eyes in their head to see that clean hit sidewinder still HKDs

faint ice
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Forget nagiha

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I just want to rc after rin overhead 😔

worthy crystal
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They tried to convince us that sol wasn’t broken in season 2 and then they tried again in season 3

worthy crystal
faint ice
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Ok we all know they got their lashings for the s2 moment

worthy crystal
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I’m just saying that it’s clearly a repeated behavior

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They could make 5k a 3 frame normal again and these bitches would complain about it

faint ice
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I just hope this is proof of large changes across the board

worthy crystal
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I kind of thought that was obligatory

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When we already heard happy chaos and asuka were basically getting reworked icant

faint ice
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Like it should be

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But arc sys momento

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We decided elphelt struggled on FD so rekka is dash cancellable

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Only change

worthy crystal
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I mean it’s not like they said that was gonna be a huge change up

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For as little as the top tiers in strive have changed over the years the game has gotten a ton of huge changes

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They aren’t afraid to make characters do whack ass shit

faint ice
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Watch Leo getting a new move somehow be the first significant nerf to him

worthy crystal
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Nahhh the H flash kick changes have been huge nerfs

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Not a DP and no HKD anymore he can’t just run it off any hit

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As far as I know people hold Leo in a much lower regard than he used to be

faint ice
worthy crystal
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I mean yes leo is still good

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But he’s way worse than he used to be idk

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S flash into scramble is a significantly less fucked up situation than h flash into losing the game because you didn’t safejump

late frost
faint ice
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why do I feel like she's going to make even JP's deepest haters look tame in comparison

vivid furnace
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oh god is she gonna have a flight mode

analog nova
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i support this

worthy crystal
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@pearl zodiac let me put you on dnf duel

pearl zodiac
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you ping me for this horrendous statement

worthy crystal
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Nothing horrendous about it

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Dnf is lit

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In a kinder world it wouldn’t have come out during Covid

pearl zodiac
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isn't that the game where every char has an infinite

worthy crystal
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No

pearl zodiac
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I'm a big fan of dfo but idk

worthy crystal
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But like 60% of the roster has a TOD

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But it’s like awakening + full meter stuff icant

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With the patches the game got it’s actually significantly more balanced

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Still super high power but shrug

pearl zodiac
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characters also just don't interest me personally

worthy crystal
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Can’t help you there

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I think the roster has a ton of sick chars but I’m not super familiar with dfo admittedly

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Specter is so hype though

pearl zodiac
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the guys are a bit too butch for me but brawler is cool

worthy crystal
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And berserker is also hype

worthy crystal
pearl zodiac
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interesting

worthy crystal
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He’s a weird zoner thing

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But he blows you up

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And also has ridiculous offense

pearl zodiac
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I kinda wanna play inquisitor

worthy crystal
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She’s like the guard break abuser

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Cool char though

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Sort of millia coded…

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Her like big move is a giant wheel that spins on you

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It’s +166

pearl zodiac
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ooo

paper notch
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COUNT THE MEDALS ONE TWO AND THREE

wicked quarry
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LIFE GOES ON

pearl burrow
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ANYTHING GOES

gaunt cloud
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COMING UP OOO

pearl zodiac
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how convenient... all my opps in one place

faint ice
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I WOKE UP TO LEO BACKTURN GETTING BUFFED @worthy crystal

pearl zodiac
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how did they buff it

faint ice
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1 sec

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【Ver. 2.00 New Special Move Reveal: Leo】
◤Brynhildr Stance◢
Brynhildr Stance can now be followed up with a jump.
While airborne, Leo can perform a unique jumping attack that covers both the front and back.
P, K, and S attacks from Brynhildr Stance can now be jump-canceled, making his offense harder to predict.
This also opens up new options in neutral when entering Brynhildr Stance, such as jumping in with the new aerial attack.
#GGST #GuiltyGearStrive

▶ Play video
pearl zodiac
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????????????????????????????????????

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HUH

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did they just make brynhildr a real stance

faint ice
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This is elphelts only strength and it's on Leo too LOL

worthy crystal
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Akali tomorrow

wicked quarry
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Pog

gaunt cloud
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Due to the volume of changes, detailed information on battle balance adjustments will be provided separately.
The battle balance patch notes will be published on April 8 at 12:00 JST
(05:00 CET / April 7, 20:00 PST).

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They're doing batch releases on a fucking balance patch how do they even do it

worn rivet
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Thank you netflix for bringing us 2.0 cour 1

languid cradle
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I mean we’re getting a 2.0 breakdown live stream tomorrow which wouldn’t be as interesting if they showed balance notes before then

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Also saying they can’t post the notes yet because they’re so massive that’s a cool way of building hype as long as the notes are actually large

worthy crystal
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I think the bigger frustration is posting “patch notes” that have nothing in them

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Just to say tune in tomorrow

languid cradle
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There’s some stuff there

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Like the new ranks

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I really hope they’re still addressing plugging this patch despite it not appearing in the patch notes but maybe it’ll come with a later patch 😢

faint ice
worthy crystal
faint ice
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WE HAVE BEEN FREED FROM HC

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  • curse blockable doesnt bounce
  • gun flip less launch
  • steady aim less launch
  • deus ex doesn't refill bullets
languid cradle
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Every single change in this stream has been amazing I can not wait for patch notes

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No prc on throws or supers, sol fire ball is longer making more like a traditional shoto and nerfs to pobo this is PEAK

faint ice
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allen walker pfp #realknower

gaunt cloud
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BREAKING THE WALL WITH A SUPER KEEPS YOUR METER PENALTY

faint ice
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but at the ready became his 5H

worn rivet
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i wanted to put someone else from dgray-man but i didnt' really find any good pics of em through google

worthy crystal
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What was with the bouncy bullet though

faint ice
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im not sure, theres gameplay and I think gun's been reworked with a portal followup

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Just two more days until she's available for cooking, gooners! Check out new GGST 2.0 gameplay featuring brand new options, moves, and characters.

0:00 - GGST 2.0 UI updates
2:48 - GGST 2.0 Wild Counter
3:29 - New Happy Chaos bulls***
8:28 - Sol Badguy new move
9:07 - Nagoriyuki new move
12:32 - Ky Kiske new move
14:47 - Jam Kuradoberi demo
29:...

▶ Play video
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a game vs sol near the end

worthy crystal
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A “game” icant

wicked quarry
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Damn looks like Guard Crush is still in the game pensivecowboybread

worthy crystal
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Any tuko gamers wanna play

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This Akali character is pretty cool

wicked quarry
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Oh is it live already?

worthy crystal
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Yes

wicked quarry
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Neat

wicked quarry
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Hmm, her normals feel ... slow?

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Well I guess Ill just wait for people to figure out the character

faint ice
worthy crystal
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2.0 patch notes won’t even open because of traffic icant

wicked quarry
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I got them open now, took a bit

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Apparently everyone now has 5f as their fastest move at most

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Pot buster doesn't have armour anymore

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Giganter Kais duration is now 105 frames from like 445

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They made Mirazh no longer a low profile move????????????

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Leo can still dash through the opponent in his stance (I think?)

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Goldlewis BTs do 10 less damage and cancelling BT into BT now costs 100 security gauge

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They also mention that BTs have heavier damage proration but the notes don't write any details for that

languid cradle
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This strive patch is so good they nerfed everyone

wicked quarry
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Jump 2k from HC is now jump HS

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Can't cancel into it from jP anymorr

pearl zodiac
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did they make combos longer

wicked quarry
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Doesn't seem that way

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Reload is always 41 frames now

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Also something about his stance changing that I don't understand

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You can stack testaments stain twice now, one stack is weaker, two is stronger

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Very few changes to Testament otherwise

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Sins food actually has a use now (it improves his unique resource gain)

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You can't cancel his DP into other followups if it's the first one anymore

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Asuka is fucking dead now

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They removed tension and health to mana conversion, increased his mana costs and reduced the number of mana generating spells in each test case

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Johnny's Mist Finer doesn't have the counter effect anymore, but his dash is special cancellable

pearl zodiac
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my biggest issue with the game is how short the combos are

wicked quarry
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Yeah that doesn't seem to be ArcSys' view

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Anyway, first impression is ... I think Johnny is the winner of all this?

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It's him, Leo or maybe Ky, but I barely looked at Kys changes

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Big losers are Asuka and Aba

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Asuka looks to be functionally dead and Aba looks even more feast or famine

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Mirazh change is the most perplexing, its main purpose is to low-profile and it just ... doesn't anymore?

wicked quarry
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I guess it's just a combo tool now

worthy crystal
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It’s definitely Leo btw idk

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I don’t like how they rehomogenized the roster in a lot of ways

worthy crystal
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And the compensation buff is now that she has bad moon HKDs which is more than likely well worth the trade

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The Artemis nerf seems way bigger than the mirazh one lol

wicked quarry
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I mean sure I don't think Millia comes out of this badly I'm just confused why Mirazh basically only exists as a cancel in her kit

worthy crystal
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That’s what they want it to do idk

wicked quarry
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It doesn't seem to serve a purpose otherwise

worthy crystal
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In xrd they took away most of rolls neutral utility as well save for specific matchups

wicked quarry
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Oh Artemis is for sure worse but tbh she got off lightly

worthy crystal
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I think we just

wicked quarry
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Dash 2k being consistent is nice

worthy crystal
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Need to see the knockdown off of bad moon

wicked quarry
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The Mirazh change just perplexed me

worthy crystal
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Because there’s a world where she can do c.s corner to corner and set up disc

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And I hope that’s the world we live in

wicked quarry
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I think the worst set of changes are for sure Asukas

worthy crystal
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They wanted to make asuka easier to play and less explosive

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They’ll retune as he goes

wicked quarry
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Probably but unless I'm missing something he's gonna be the worst character in strive history

worthy crystal
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No fucking shot lol

wicked quarry
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Like I don't see how removing fast mana gen, increasing mana costs and reducing mana charging spells is meant to work out

worthy crystal
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Do you remember how bad Faust was on launch

wicked quarry
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Yeah

worthy crystal
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That character was punishable on hit half the time

wicked quarry
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I'm not sure Asuka having less health than even Chipp when mana is down (which will be often now) is much better tbh

worthy crystal
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I’m not saying asuka will be good or whatever but

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People also said the same thing about asuka having the least health in the game the first time too

wicked quarry
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I would've thought they'd remove the mana to reduce damage gimmick with these changes, give him a normal health bar

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That way the fact that you run out of mana only means you're not casting spells instead of also taking 50% more damage

worthy crystal
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And people also said that chipp wouldn’t be good because he dies in 1 hit also and. Well. We see how that ended up

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It’s also important to note that the actual quality of the spells did not go down, and because staves are now no longer in deck he doesn’t have to worry about finding blanks

wicked quarry
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Instead you have the worst of both worlds, you are way more limited on the spells you can use and you also die once you're out them which is ... not ideal

worthy crystal
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Again I don’t think he’ll be good but worst ever in strives history is extreme

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This game has had characters who didn’t work

wicked quarry
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Well see, that's just my first impression after all

worthy crystal
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Launch Faust and Anji were basically not real

wicked quarry
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Aba is also gonna be rough but at least she still shreds in her install

worthy crystal
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Ino after they made stroke minus and then added HC was the least played character in the roster by like multiple margins of error

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Strive has had like actual bad bad characters

wicked quarry
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Yeah I think Asuka is gonna be one of them and probably not real either tbh

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Also I still don't understand how HC works now

worthy crystal
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I think you’re v much overreacting but either way we have to wait and see

wicked quarry
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You get a powered up stance after 6 shots but you can only have 6 shots at a time?

worthy crystal
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Lucy deals even less damage now????????????? @faint ice????????????

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They made gun usable at least

wicked quarry
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You get a guard crush on 5HS 🙃

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Stop making new guard crushes ArcSys smh

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OK reading it again I think they just made it so the sixth shot you fire in a row does more damage?

worthy crystal
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Lucy needs it

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Unironically

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Pretty sure they also made venom worse

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QV is 0 but now stinger is -10 icant icant icant icant

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And jd carcass doesn’t true string

wicked quarry
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Imma just stick to 2xko for now tbh

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Maybe check in occasionally to see how strive develops

gaunt cloud
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WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO MY GUY???????

worthy crystal
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They really just ominously said “ensenga now has a unique blowback effect on a secret new second hit we gave it” and didn’t elaborate

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Did they give him reverse enkasu??

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Also ino can now simply no longer combo into MLA from what I can see

languid cradle
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We will have to see how this patch is received over the next few days but 2xko and strive both releasing back to back very well received patches that are mostly nerfing things and nerfing system mechanics can hopefully undue the buffs>nerfs balancing meta nyaruhodo

worthy crystal
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If that was your takeaway from the tuko patch I think you missed some of the characters in it

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Anyways I take more issues with the fact that they’re rehomogenizing the roster more than that they’re nerfing characters

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Especially because most characters are still getting net positives

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But like why are we going back to universal button speeds, why are we going back to universal 6ps, why are we taking away low profiles

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This isn’t granblue characters are meant to be different

languid cradle
worthy crystal
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The caitlyn and jinx changes are v big

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Blitz buffs are nice but he’s also still blitz

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Ekko is the only one who actually got real notable nerfs

languid cradle
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I personally enjoy the characters have more similar 6ps but yeah I think the universal everyone can’t have 4 frame buttons anymore is weird

worthy crystal
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I think making every 6p the same is just like really silly idk

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At that point why not give everyone a matching identical universal DP

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They did it before and it wasn’t well received then either

languid cradle
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I just really enjoy good anti airs on all the characters I play icant is the changes to 6p a net positive for most of them or negative?

worthy crystal
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Nerfing testament and buffing Nago because every 6p needs to be the same

worthy crystal
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A lot of newer dlc characters had 3f low profiles

languid cradle
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Ok

worthy crystal
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Which are now universally 4

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Also I think it’s odd that they wanna reduce damage but are only touching damage numbers for characters who don’t do a ton of damage as is

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Mf you say damage is too high but then you don’t touch a single number in Leo’s kit

languid cradle
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Maybe this is part of arc sy plan to have less strain on them for balancing when they have 36 characters in the game

languid cradle
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And chips not that he does a lot but he does average which is still wrong for him because he should be a pixie

worthy crystal
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It’s definitely not wrong for him idk

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Chipp normally does around 3 touches when everyone else takes 2 to kill him

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Depending on the matchup, 1 icant

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Making that number difference much more notable makes him a strugglefest of a character

languid cradle
worthy crystal
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Especially because being a pixie in strive where everyone’s movement sucks is not terribly important

languid cradle
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Chip has insane defense, neutral and pressure

worthy crystal
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Chipp has always had on the higher end and sometimes some of the highest damage in the game

languid cradle
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Every hit leads into a loop of plus on block safe from dp left right mix for most your life

worthy crystal
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He is balanced that way intentionally by arcsys

worthy crystal
languid cradle
languid cradle
worthy crystal
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I can tell you don’t know because you’re just saying words

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Chipp reset to neutral on most of his combos

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Unless he was spending meter to secure knockdowns or already had the corner (in which case he still often reset to neutral)

languid cradle
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That’s probably because most chip players can’t properly do his mix icant

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It’s manually timed but it’s a left right mixup that’s plus because it’s a jump in off tight rope

worthy crystal
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Yes because tournament players who succeed with characters infamously don’t know how to play their characters

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I’m not talking about the strive setups I’m talking about chipp historically as a character

languid cradle
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Why

worthy crystal
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Has never been low damage and is balanced the way he is for a reason

languid cradle
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Why are we talking about past games that are historically extremely different from this game where he doesn’t even have his most influential move

worthy crystal
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Chipp suffers disproportionally from damage nerfs compared to the rest of the roster

languid cradle
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Do you realize how top tier chip is in strive?

worthy crystal
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Ok?

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I mean if you want me to be snide that’s also just how chip always is question

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But I’m just explaining why I think it’s weird that we’re toning down all of chips damage numbers but not Leo’s

languid cradle
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I think it’s because they want him to be a pixie character ig

worthy crystal
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Idk where the perception of pixies not doing damage comes from

languid cradle
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It’s literally the definition of pixie

worthy crystal
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???

languid cradle
worthy crystal
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If you post the infil dictionary shit god help me

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Please form a thought with your own brain and not someone else’s

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Chipp is the most iconic pixie character ever and has never been low damage as just discussed

languid cradle
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Sorry for using dictionary’s for definitions

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My bad

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We should just argue our own made up definitions instead I’m sure that will be productive

worthy crystal
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Because dogmatically using a single persons opinions to make all of our ideas for things which are notoriously fluid and varied based on individual instances has always been a good idea Prayge

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I’m already extremely radically opined on fg character archetypes but pixies are, even among them, an extremely vague description with little to no consistency

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Akuma is not low damage. Chipp is not low damage. Twelve is low damage, but plenty of people contend that he’s not even a pixie. Taokaka (was) is not low damage

languid cradle
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I’ve deadass never seen someone call akuma a pixie before

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A glass canon maybe but never a pixie

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Kimberly is a pixie

worthy crystal
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You weren’t an 09’er then

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If a pixie is just a fast character with low health then what pray tell makes Akuma not a pixie btw gp_borpa

languid cradle
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Who said pixie is just a fast character with low health

worthy crystal
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Are u about to tell me Akuma hasn’t historically been a character with strong offense and mix

languid cradle
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Anyways even if we ignore the word pixie for a moment what’s the issue with the concept of chip has low health so to compensate he has insane movement and he has low damage so he has insane mix other than that’s not what he used to do?

worthy crystal
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Because his movement and his mix just aren’t actually that insane

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Compared to the rest of the cast of strive sure but

languid cradle
worthy crystal
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Being a pixie in a game where everyone’s ankles got broken is probably still slower than a shoto in sf3 icant

worthy crystal
languid cradle
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Strive chip has insane movement and mix

languid cradle
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Arc sy ruined the two main pixies in strive a few patches ago

worthy crystal
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I severely doubt it unless the alpha change is an unreactable crossup icant

languid cradle
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He doesn’t need better mix because his mix is already good

worthy crystal
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I think we have different definitions of good mix

languid cradle
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I mean his strike throw got a bit worse this patch so ig maybe but tightrope mix is super strong

worthy crystal
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I think we should reopen the schools zoomers have gone too far @small furnace. make them play millia blocker for 17 hours a day and then put them in +r against Zappa dog

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Ppl complain about sol being +1 lets make them deal with xrd Johnny strike throw

small furnace
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they just dont make them like they did before

worthy crystal
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I hate sounding like a boomer but they really wash out a lot of the flavor in fighting games these days

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And modern fg players actually can’t handle blocking for 3+ seconds…

languid cradle
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Every patch strive gets farther from the older gg games i thank God

worthy crystal
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Maybe if you hate gg that much you should try playing a different fighting game SCmyreactiontothatinformation

languid cradle
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I dont like the OLDER gg games which I dont play

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I do play the game I like

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Which is strive

small furnace
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which is fine but

small furnace
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that wasnt the guilty gear i became a huge fan of

vivid furnace
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kids should get lightning looped Pensive

worthy crystal
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I’ve been disrespected endlessly at locals for playing old fgs as if they aren’t somehow the same ip

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And frankly maybe it’s just because I’m finally closer to 30 than not but I truly have just started to be very frustrated with the thought process of most of the younger fg players in my community icant

languid cradle
worthy crystal
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Maybe… fighting game players are usually just bad people… that can’t be…

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But my generation of players suffered in a way that no other fg player will ever understand (I had to block millia on delay netcode online during covid)

pearl zodiac
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sigh

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I feel like they heard people make that meme complaint about blocking for 20 seconds or getting stuck in a 20 second combo and they overcorrected

worthy crystal
pearl zodiac
languid cradle
pearl zodiac
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that's lame

languid cradle
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They took so many routes from my main sin which is a strange change considering he was already losing a lot of combo potential with wa gone😢

pearl zodiac
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I get why they're distancing Strive from the other Guilty Gear games because the main FGC is a mistake but it still sucks that I can't play the newest entry in a franchise that helped me meet so many people because it's just kinda bad

languid cradle
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Dont worry after granblue is discontinued and strive is turned into the new granblue tokon will be the fast paced alternative

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I’m really excited to see how this patch is received from the masses because they did deadass just overall nerf like 3/4 the cast

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I wonder if most casuals enjoy stuff like this or not

faint ice
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I already play Johnny... @worthy crystal

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Worst timeline is I don't even switch character...

faint ice
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Holy strive took tekken 8s back to basics patch for themselves

gaunt cloud
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They made asuka play mtg instead of ygo siiiiiiiiigh

faint ice
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Drinking a.b.a main tears for breakfast godbless

worthy crystal
#

quick look at 2XKO in 2026.

stuff to know: we're adding another champion to our schedule, for a total of 6 new champs releasing this year. we're also adding a new fuse + a way to find duo partners in-game next month.

lots to come, thanks for being on the journey with us

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Fitting an extra champ this year

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Prob qiyana/eve for kda/whatever the other ones called icant

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True damage

faint ice
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Id like qiyana more than eve

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I feel like she's more popular and a great canvas for a cool kit

worthy crystal
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I think both would be v cool

shrewd furnace
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This is the first time I’ve heard qiyana’s more popular than eve

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Qiyana has more potential for a more interesting kit because of lore ngl

worthy crystal
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Evelyn is an invis champ so I’m not sure how u find a unique differentiation from akali

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But I guess teemo was also an invis champ no?

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It would be funny going from 5 gun characters to 5 assassins though

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And still no mages

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Senna sort of

wicked quarry
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Ahri?

worthy crystal
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True unglorp

#

She’s also sort of an assassin though isn’t she

paper notch
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in the sense that she can kill you quick but thats most mages

worthy crystal
#

Seeing

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Well it would be cool to have a zoner/caster character glorpnow

wicked quarry
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She's more of a mobile burst mage

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Also I dont think were gonna get zoners for a bit

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On the other hand, Syndra as a setplay character could be fun nyaruhodo

worthy crystal
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I don’t really care for a zoner specifically but more of like

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Controlling space

shrewd furnace
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Azir nyaruhodo

worthy crystal
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Would be incredibly sick yes

shrewd furnace
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He would be so cool in concept

worthy crystal
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Hwei is my dream pick but he’ll probably never be in

wicked quarry
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Eh Hwei is reasonably popular

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And he fills a very particular niche

shrewd furnace
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Hwei can do something incredibly funny because of how 2xko’s input system works icant

wicked quarry
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But were probably gonna see safe picks for some time now

worthy crystal
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My more realistic hopes are fiddle/gwen/kayn/diana

shrewd furnace
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Just have his specials do nothing unless you follow them up with other specials nyaruhodo

worthy crystal
shrewd furnace
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I want irelia, they could go in so many different directions with her

wicked quarry
wicked quarry
worthy crystal
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I think fiddle is v likely idk

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Halloween champ drop gg

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Popular is maybe not the word I would use but fiddle is a notorious champ

shrewd furnace
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Yuumi, take it or leave it NyanGun

worthy crystal
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And there are definitely a lot of freaks (myself included) who play those kinds of characters

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Imagine fiddle hits the break on you into setting up double scarecrow oki and instead of going overhead they do crossup command grab gg

pearl zodiac
#

how many characters did they say they were adding per season

worthy crystal
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6 this year

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Getting a couple darkin and then adding zaheen would also be cool

wicked quarry
#

I mean I do think Fiddle would be neat

worthy crystal
#

League just has far too many cool characters

wicked quarry
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But I think he is too "risky" as it were

worthy crystal
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And too many of them are interconnected ITSCOMING

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Idt fiddle is risky really

wicked quarry
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Plus he is a war crime character, you add those on launch or once the game is stable nyaruhodo

worthy crystal
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If u mean specifically in like a “post senna post akali” sense then yeah they’re prob just gonna do garen or fiora or some shit like that

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But as an overall I think fiddle is a design that is pretty fg adjacent

pearl zodiac
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unfortunately with the layoffs I think the 6 planned this year are gonna be older season characters and next year we'll be lucky to have someone around zaheen's release window

worthy crystal
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Assassins lend themselves well to fg design bc their kits are often designed with 1 on 1s in mind

wicked quarry
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I mean like this year early next year

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Past that I can see fiddle

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Im still hoping for Kha nyaruhodo

worthy crystal
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My dream roster for the rest of the year is hwei gwen tf

wicked quarry
#

Tbh TF probably has decent odds

worthy crystal
#

My weirdo choice would be naafiri

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Every popular champ has decent odds

wicked quarry
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He's popular, well-liked and unique

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Plus people who fight with cards are a niche that is in fact very sick

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Though I dont think he'd go full Oswald

shrewd furnace
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They should add petshop to the game with the jjba moveset/mechanics and just say it’s Anivia

worthy crystal
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That’s hype

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You cooked

paper notch
wicked quarry
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Oy

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... youre not wrong but fuck you >:[

paper notch
small furnace
#

he played with balls once and never stopped thinking about it

gaunt cloud
#

Wait am i reading this right

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They added suka motion to strive?

shrewd furnace
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Only if I’m able to smack them away

worthy crystal
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Not to keep beating a dead horse but Leo just got a new move btw icant

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Truly a patch of all time

pearl zodiac
#

cake do you wanna play some accent core some time

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I wanna try sol

worthy crystal
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Sure just ping me sometime

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@faint ice akali illaoi has been v fun

faint ice
worthy crystal
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Solo yeah

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But she’s a cool char

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Sick combos and fun pressure/neutral tools

wicked quarry
faint ice
#

The sun is shining and slayer and aba are gutted, it's not a dream

wicked quarry
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Unlocked Akali nyaruhodo

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I wonder if Sidekick is the way to go with her

worthy crystal
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I’ve been doing 2x assist with ahri and double down with illaoi

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Both have been v fun

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Doing illaoi tentacles into smokescreen super lets u do some unethical things

wicked quarry
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Yeah I just dont wanna play Illaoi lmao

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I did look at Ahri though, but Id have to learn her from scratch

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I was thinking Sidekick just because Akalis own assists seem ... bad?

worthy crystal
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They aren’t the best

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But sidekick is also not the best fuse icant

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I also did a little bit of double down akali jinx with the command grab super

wicked quarry
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But yeah idk, Ill figure something out I guess

worthy crystal
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They dont want to make either of the single character fuses too strong I think

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U could prob take any team with vi on it and put akali in the slot instead they fill v similar roles

wicked quarry
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Id be more likely to run her with Vi tbh

wicked quarry
worthy crystal
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Akali moreso than vi but she’s not exactly known for her assists either

wicked quarry
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I know, Vi is just the only character I have even a basic understanding of

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Even if I dont know how to do Electric loops

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Also Idk what good assist character I wanna pick up

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I still havent figured out Yasuo

faint ice
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Jam is very cool

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Apparently her rabbit is a handsome customer that got transformed from her cooking

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and she has no idea

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I expected her to feel like another gio but honestly reminds me more of slayer

pearl zodiac
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you've made me incredibly sad

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I thought that UI was how the game actually looked like now

faint ice
pearl zodiac
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wait how do you get it

faint ice
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there's a menu

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lemme reboot

pearl zodiac
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oh ty

worthy crystal
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Millia bad moon HKD is between +40-45 depending on height differences

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Not enough for a good disc setup but definitely a little spooky

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If u do really weird combos u can do backshots and be closer to +50 which lets u do disc against non DP characters

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Artemis knockdown in corner is now +60 which means you can disc +safejump 9f or slower dps

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This ino change looks so goofy @faint ice

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She literally just clips to the ground icant

faint ice
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ino scam artists

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also the lucy & slayer forced counter hits both work with blitz

worthy crystal
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This character seems a little cooked compared to before personally but

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It’s a nice change

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I wish they gave it to her out of her regular dash

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She still explodes u in the corner btw not sure what the point of the air hcl nerf was

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LMAO the 5h buff looks goofy as fuck too

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Magnetically pulled into her guitar

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Wait since when does dive not knock down

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Also I’m not sure how reasonably testament can actually apply the double stain

faint ice
wicked quarry
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Apparently double stain isnt even good

worthy crystal
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U wanna talk about sniped for no reason they removed aba from the game bro

wicked quarry
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It just scales your damage to hell

worthy crystal
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But yeah this patch randomly nerfed a bunch of mid tiers icant

faint ice
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(she actually deserved it)

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why was normal mode aba just a normal character when she could turn into jealous

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did they go too far? maybe

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I promise you her internal stats were likely disgusting

worthy crystal
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Normal mode aba was gross I agree but if ur making normal ass u don’t also then need to nerf jealous rage icant

faint ice
worthy crystal
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Have u seen Johnny

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Why did they let him do that

faint ice
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They just dropped the nerf everybody patch

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I open notes

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and they buff johnny

worthy crystal
wicked quarry
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He deserves it

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(Johnny)

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(Leo doesnt)

faint ice
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leo and nago have new move privilege which I will technically allow

worthy crystal
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Johnny does not deserve it actually

faint ice
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^

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and I play him HAHA

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5h revert would have already made it christmas

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crossup ensenga

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weeeeeeeeeee

worthy crystal
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With how pushed the move is I half expected Leo move to be an ioh

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It just does everything else

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I guess he already had an ioh anyways

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Ok time to figure out how the HC stuff works

shrewd furnace
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Faust might finally be a character again but every day we stray further

faint ice
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the portals seem to have unique gun properties or something

worthy crystal
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Portal shot is +30

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.

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-+40

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I don’t have hands for this character

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Down portal HKDs up portal is a big launch

faint ice
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cs oki after throw again

languid cradle
worthy crystal
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Aba was not good enough to warrant the shit she got I know she made everybody salty but please bfr icant

languid cradle
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Yeah her changes weren’t great

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Most characters are being nerfed into a certain direction like turning sol into a proper shoto and turning chip into a proper pixie but aba they simply nerfed every single part of her kit

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Maybe the direction is just having aba be perma low tier like Faust or elphelt or dizzy

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I feel like with aba you either have her be weak or make jr rage and normal closer in power

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Because her gimmick is just not fun to deal with or I think healthy for the game as it was

faint ice
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about that perma elphelt low tier btw...

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we may have a problem

languid cradle
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What’s the problem

faint ice
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I think she's lowkey a winner from this patch

languid cradle
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Interesting

faint ice
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DPs not being autoloss, projectile mechanic is good, stability for casino character

mellow palm
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Has anyone played the invincible vs beta

languid cradle
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Very fun game

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Very Good netcode

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Idk how I’m gonna survive the 3 weeks between the beta end and the release of the game

wicked quarry
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Ok I have realised ... I have no idea how to play Akali

vivid furnace
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is birfday, i redo the stickers on my hitbox

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i now have doctor doom aura farming

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for reference

teal pebble
vivid furnace
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thanks Squappy

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ive still gotta seal it and then rewire everything but i'll do that tomorrow

worthy crystal
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@faint ice they accidentally gave millia insanely sick confirms

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They will probably be removed by the next patch worrysad

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If u do badmoon backshots she can pickup with 2k

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The same way if u do weird back hit on Johnny deal he can pickup with c.s icant

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Idk if there’s a name for that knockdown

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Fake HKD

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If u do crazy whack combos she can actually do c.s pickup

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Also testament players are leading me to believe that character no longer exists

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Also.

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True string.

shrewd furnace
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Every character’s players are trying to tell everyone their characters are dead icant

worthy crystal
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Not HC players

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And certainly not millia players…

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They’re all dooming about how bad moon is gonna get removed from the game next patch

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A lot of ppl are at least a little bit up on their chars

shrewd furnace
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Nah right before this HC players were dooming that their character’s dead

worthy crystal
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Yeah and then they played him

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Testament players did the opposite icant

faint ice
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Hc accidentally got an infinite so we'll see how we from there

faint ice
mellow palm
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Playing invincible beta

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Every other match has been a ragequit lol

pearl zodiac
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did you expect anything less

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it's like the mortal kombat playerbase but worse

mellow palm
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I didn’t really have expectations tbh

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The game is fun tho

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Even if not super mechanically deep

pearl zodiac
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is it a good tag fighter