#Fighting Game Chat
austere garnet
Oh god fuckin’ Tam Tam
cosmic forge
Cham Cham
austere garnet
I’d managed to forget her long enough that I fucked up her name
cosmic forge
Tam Tam has some fans
Not many
But he has some
Mostly because without the demon mask he is actually kinda hot?
SamSho 2019 had some massively beloved newcomers iirc
pearl burrow
yeah I can see it
cosmic forge
I mean Darli is the obvious one
wicked quarry
Anyway Marisa looks cool and I like ||sophisticated|| Gief
teal pebble
The 3rd mask pic looks cool
austere garnet
Cute
Still looks dumb
He looks like a white boy that wanted to be a gangster in 1995
cosmic forge
he’s asian
wicked quarry
Why did I just think "Bosnian Ryu"
austere garnet
Lmao
wicked quarry
austere garnet
Okay so opening up a vote in favor of banning raz
cosmic forge
I vote yes
teal pebble
She can be forgiven
wicked quarry
Anyway I am so not sure on Cammys outfit
teal pebble
Even if I didn't not want to
austere garnet
Damnit Vale you were too fast for me to say “none opposed” lmao
austere garnet
Anyway I am so not sure on Cammys outfit
Again
It’s just Balrog’s outfit from SFV
cosmic forge
“Sticking your Sagyatt out for the Chun-Lizzler”
austere garnet
Okay do we forgive her now
teal pebble
I can.not forgive her
wicked quarry
Its got that kinda GItS grungy vibe ig?
wicked quarry
"Lizzler" sounds like an off-brand sweet
austere garnet
It kinda does
pearl burrow
Jamie's outfit rocks
Ken's isn't bad
Kimberly's is good
JP and Zangief have it going on
oh my gosh I would die for Manon
austere garnet
Anyway Marisa stays winning here
cosmic forge
Reg you forgot Marisa
pearl burrow
I was literally typing it out as I went through the video lmao
austere garnet
They deadass gave him the DMC2 fit but it looks good so
pearl burrow
I was never a Marisa fan to begin with, and Manon's outfit is right up my alley
austere garnet
Guile’s looks fine but it’s still weird to me to give the Cody outfit to Guile and not Ken or even Luke
lunar depot
Ryu’s outfit gives me ‘Uncle who runs a food truck’ vibes.
wicked quarry
I do like that Marisa is very gender non-conforming while also being gender-conforming
austere garnet
They’re both way more in line with Cody
wicked quarry
Its a funky little contrast
austere garnet
Than Guile
lunar depot
Manon reminds me of Mr. I’m not Short I’m Average Height.
wicked quarry
Also if Im not misremembering
Canonically that dress was one her grandmother sew for her
pearl burrow
Lily's outfit is better than her OG one for me?
austere garnet
granted I also just think Cody would still fit in flawlessly in SF6 but iirc they literally handwave him with “he’s busy doing mayor shit”
pearl burrow
I just burst out laughing at the Juri pajamas lmao
okay yeah upon second inspection Marisa's costume is actually pretty stylish
wicked quarry
Imagine if Juris outfit was just Juri but she wears shoes
pearl burrow
you know there's a mod for that, right
wicked quarry
Vaguely, yes
austere garnet
Was one of the first mods for the character iirc
Inverse of Bridget
never forget that one of the first mods for Bridget removed her hood and did not advertise that it also removed her shoes for “some reason”
pearl burrow
oh that's super sus
austere garnet
There’s a really famous comment on it that was really early after it came out that talked about how cute she looked without her hood and then just went “oh also one question where did her shoes go”
And that was basically how people found out lmao
lunar depot
Some things are never noticed unless you point them out.
cosmic forge
and whose super move involves stripping
cosmic forge
SamSho 2019 does have one character I really don’t like
austere garnet
?
cosmic forge
For some reason there’s a crossover with checks notes a China-only MOBA only available on phones made by Tencent
austere garnet
wat
lunar depot
While we’re on this topic, wasn’t there a SamSho character based on Shiro Amakusa?
lunar depot
Huh.
cosmic forge
who fights with a parasol
teal pebble
Never forget Baiken ended up in SamSho
cosmic forge
Baiken in SamSho is fucking great though
lunar depot
Much more modest than I was thinking.
teal pebble
It's like she returned to the home she actually had
austere garnet
Never forget Baiken ended up in SamSho
This is by far the most fitting GG character for SamSho tbh
She fits in better than uh
cosmic forge
You know the weird one
austere garnet
The fucking Ubisoft crossover character
cosmic forge
Warden from For Honour yeah lmao
austere garnet
The dude from For Honor yeah
teal pebble
She fits in better in SamSho than in Guilty Gear
wicked quarry
I still wish we got old Baiken
cosmic forge
austere garnet
He doesn’t not fit in admittedly
cosmic forge
I actually like the idea of a full European knight in Samsho but not this guy
austere garnet
He’s just
Very odd
For Honor is not the kind of thing I’d imagine a guest character for in a fighting game
austere garnet
Old Baiken’s hair is fun
teal pebble
SNK to sink
Bless auto correct
austere garnet
Shame it’s dead beyond one of the games randomly getting rollback on steam without warning
teal pebble
Was going to try at some point
austere garnet
It’s the SNK thing I’m by far the least experienced with beyond like
Buriki One
But it’s cool from what I’ve seen of it
teal pebble
And it's off in steam
cosmic forge
Last Blade is cool
Hibiki’s in Samsho 2019
austere garnet
I vaguely remember that
cosmic forge
dreamy mason
manon drills 🔥
velvet wren
Angy Morri
hexed forum
Dumbass resident Smash player entering chat
A podcast with Dr. Alan just came up and it's as expected riling up the community
And the "community"
(People who live to watch the Smash scene crumble)
((Technicals viewers))
A lot of it was Alan talking about what Panda could have been had it not been killed off, which to me kinda reeks of appeal to emotion
But here's the stuff he actually talked about
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Ludwig hosting Scuffed World Tour on the same day as Panda Cup Finale was the final nail in the coffin for Panda going down
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The harassment to Panda was A LOT more than we thought. Dr. Alan had to flee his house from the amount of death threats he and so many Panda players and employees got. There was a model for merch displayed on the Panda website, and she got death threats for being a model to their merch. Even Nintendo told Alan that this level of harassment was nuts.
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Nintendo and Panda were talking about a signed circuit since 2019. Looks like Nintendo wanted Ultimate to be the breakout competitive Smash title?
The four main reactions are
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Feeling bummed out about what could have been
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Alan is full of shit and is still accountable for Panda's downfall
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Alan was the saviour of Smash, and we need to aim our sights on GimR and VGBC
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lmao fuck the smash community
balmy parrot
the last one rings true eternally
hexed forum
the last one rings true eternally
I would not like to go into why I heavily disagree on this
The reactions isnt like the pipeline people go through
Its the different reactions different people have
balmy parrot
ye I know
but like people will always have that last reaction
regardless of what happens
balmy parrot
well I don't particularly like any FGC as a whole because I think it's riddled from head to toe but I did mean the latter
hexed forum
Alr well again I dont feel like exhausting myself in an argument that really won't matter
It's moreso the twitter and youtube commenters who seem to obsess themselves in just wanting something to die
balmy parrot
yeah those are no fun
hexed forum
Even funnier when the guy who they get all their validating doomer news from
Most likely does it out of passion for the game
austere garnet
lunar depot
pearl burrow
The four main reactions are
- Feeling bummed out about what could have been
- ...
Definitely in the first camp myself
sharp imp
https://youtu.be/QH6s_o3dIic?si=YgMclipqSa_5-JrN
Now it's Shulk Time
teal pebble
Is that fucking Rock Howard
vapid lake
Is that fucking Rock Howard
Rock if he was Gender™️
velvet wren
wow
wicked quarry
Wait ... apparently the new nickelodeon smash-like has fucking roman cancels?
late frost
mellow palm
@worthy crystal do I play skullgirls again
gaunt cloud
That explains a lot actually
pearl burrow
wait do they have a reputation?
vapid lake
wait do they have a reputation?
pearl burrow
oh dear
nova pagoda
game of the year
late frost
wicked quarry
Where did you get this from?
late frost
another server
pearl burrow
It's been posted on Twitter as well
They gave comments for all the fighters' new costumes
austere garnet
austere garnet
Lmaoooooo
pearl burrow
Nice way to shadow confirm that we're getting the Three Idiots collab vid tomorrow lol
hollow swift
https://youtube.com/shorts/2XRFWrS3Dyg?si=HvpU9Z3Qoz2jO-8Z this isn't a fighting game
But grapplers in fighting games be like
haughty zodiac
https://youtube.com/shorts/2XRFWrS3Dyg?si=HvpU9Z3Qoz2jO-8Z this isn't a fighting...
people hate it because cheeses?
hollow swift
people hate it because cheeses?
(the bot is very literally grappling other bots just to note)
haughty zodiac
(the bot is very literally grappling other bots just to note)
why do they not like that in this?
hollow swift
Well it was one person
And it's probably cause grab your opponent and wailing at them is not something the commentator liked lol
haughty zodiac
wailing?
haughty zodiac
essentially people don't like strats where you disable them in a easy manner to just keep damaging them freely?
hollow swift
essentially people don't like strats where you disable them in a easy manner to ...
Basically
Like control decks!
austere garnet
Of course it’s right when I have to leave
vapid lake
too late, too eepy
wicked quarry
Smh not pinging me
wicked quarry
too late, too eepy
Wrapped in late?
pearl burrow
Smh not pinging me
listen I didn't want to get muted for 15 minutes by pinging too many people at once
wicked quarry
I see that you value Spooks and Yami more than me 
worthy crystal
Aki apparently
vapid lake
I see that you value Spooks and Yami more than me <:pensivecowboybread:737367263...
Based
faint ice
Has any newcomer fallen flat in SF6
Do you mean how good they are or popularity
pearl burrow
…I’m going to be buying Weiss Schwarz again
faint ice
hungry does pokemon art too
pearl burrow
Thankfully I haven’t fallen that far down the rabbit hole
….but out of curiosity, could you ping me with some examples in #1020096234968596531 ?
swift fulcrum
hungry does pokemon art too
oh fr?
faint ice
Yeah I posted some
swift fulcrum
damn they're good
pearl burrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOwNXG8pTq8
Also I finally finished Lythero’s video
150K LIKES AND HE’LL PLAY YUGIOH WITH THE THREE IDIOTS
vapid lake
Also I finally finished Lythero’s video
150K LIKES AND HE’LL PLAY YUGIOH WITH T...
Lythero Vanquish Soul?
pearl burrow
Lmao Doto’s actually been playing Vanquish Soul lately
teal pebble
god bless hungry clicker for having made it into a card game
We need a video game done in his style
paper notch
Straight up colonizing a move aintnoway
late frost
go into Properties under DBFZ on Steam
under the Betas tab
select the public-beta-test - pbt
you'll have to download an update
about 6 GB
lunar depot
Sorry for the poll again, but what kind of character archetypes would you guys say are almost universally present in fighting games?
winter frigate
Rushdown, grappler, and zoner are the most generic terms. And shotou (whatever that means)
austere garnet
Grapplers are the best command grab so funny 😆
lunar depot
Aight, so I was trying to make a fighting game roster. (Not actually developing a game - don’t know where to start.) Wanna hear my ideas?
haughty zodiac
Rushdown, grappler, and zoner are the most generic terms. And shotou (whatever t...
shoto
its named after shotokan which is ken and ryu's form of karate, meant to be "balanced" characters though generally in the sense of like having a balanced and standard toolkit for their game or FG's in general
usually have a basic fireball, uppercut and attack that makes you advance
@lunar depot
haughty zodiac
tldr: shoto's are the all rounder of your game and meant to represent the fundamentals of the game then common specific playstyles are like rushdown, grappler and zoner
there's other stuff like footsie and often you'll have shoto's fit into other archetypes somewhat more
lunar depot
Ok…
So I’ve got the Allrounder/ beginner’s character Ray - basically Ryu but with Kung fu instead of karate
Marco is the rushdown with a Momentum meter that can boost his attack speed
Q-9 is a zoner who can fire rockets to keep opponents at bay
Rusty Toole is a grappler - that’s it
haughty zodiac
that momentum meter is built up long term?
lunar depot
It’s based on combos.
If Marco can pull off stylish combos, the momentum meter will rise. But if he takes damage, it goes down.
And if he keeps blocking, it just goes down to 0.
haughty zodiac
i take it starts from a middle point in the meter?
lunar depot
LVL 0, to 1, to 2, then to 3. Like G from SFV..?
haughty zodiac
i more mean like does it start at a neutral value and can then be positive or negative relative to that?
lunar depot
Not really, you start from zero. Like, no buff at all.
haughty zodiac
mostly just wondering since essentially sounds like would struggle getting in early on which rushdown wants to do
haughty zodiac
i had a mechanic concept myself with a rushdown where they had a resource meter and essentially all their moves had a "overdrive" version which usually made the move overall better but more so going for unique purposes and cost meter
lunar depot
Hm.
haughty zodiac
like for example a command grab in the overdrive drags the opponent further across the screen if using that
lunar depot
Huh… I was thinking of Marco becoming faster and harder to punish if his meter maxes out.
haughty zodiac
Hm.
i had one weird idea for a "shoto" in a random roster i was thinking of called phobia and essentially they have some command grabs where if resolved then it gives some bonuses like additional moves, new property and modifying other moves and can get up to 2 with 1 being that characters "phobia" and the 2nd one being a chosen implanted phobia
think i gave like 5 phobias for them to potentially use
lunar depot
Hm.
I put a little more emphasis on the story than on the hypothetical gameplay. So if this ever comes to fruition, I’ll need someone who knows what they’re doing
late frost
austere garnet
that said this acts like Marvel isn’t also comically fucked but the joke landed so
vapid lake
I mean I liked BBTAG lmao
wicked quarry
Again not as evil as BBTAG
glass cairn
anybody into Mortal Kombat?
sharp imp
I'm not much into Mortal Kombat, but Quan Chi looks sick
mellow palm
So we can’t get dizzy venom or jam but we can get this atrocity
worthy crystal
Take pleasure knowing the kit will be gutted
Or that the kit will be built entirely from the ground up
haughty zodiac
||https://vxtwitter.com/genrouzan/status/1731507731700613245||
what on earth is she armed with?
haughty zodiac
her redesign sucks tbqh
managed to take weird creative idea and just look incredibly bland
balmy parrot
tbf I'm Elphelt's husband so I'm biased but she was so cute before
haughty zodiac
i'm not sure what this design is meant to show
faint ice
I like the microphone if it means trying something new
haughty zodiac
inb4 all her ranged options are just replaced with music and still as obnoxious now
haughty zodiac
yeah new design i don't like since i don't see any new identity that shines through unless she's now a pop idol and very drastic change
other characters you had big visual changes but still retain their identity
faint ice
Also did I forget something but didn't she get grabbed and taken away
pearl burrow
haughty zodiac
also inb4 her style is like babymetal
balmy parrot
the huge choker that acted like a scarf was my favorite part hands down
balmy parrot
no, they sanded them down too
haughty zodiac
i just realised but she might not actually replace her original ranged attacks for musical versions because i-no already does the whole ranged music attack thing
fml have no clue how she might've changed
faint ice
Ok rams being a teddy like hat is decent
small furnace
okay but look at how cute she was in xrd
agreed
her design was great
im not a fan of the new one
haughty zodiac
https://vxtwitter.com/LambdaOnyx/status/1731591679969275955
what do they mean by her hip melting?
balmy parrot
look at her leg
normally that'd be where her butt is but it's weirdly pointy
it looks like her leg is "melting" into her hip to get that kind of shape
wicked quarry
Idk Im kinda disappointed
She looks way too much like Banquet and I dont think she adds much to the game
balmy parrot
Banquet?
gaunt cloud
(From the same thread)
worthy crystal
Just made her a gun nut and took away the bride thing I guess
Isn’t there a lore thing that happened that makes that make sense
late frost
I guess if she's already married she doesn't need to wear the wedding gown anymore
paper notch
(From the same thread)
am i crazy or does that shadow in the second image look like an anchor
worthy crystal
It definitely looks weird but it could also be the aerial shadow for the opponent
Checking the 1st image do projectiles like that ever have shadows/ lighting fx
Bc that projectile also looks kinda goofy af too
small furnace
pack it up buttercups
elphelt looks to be an edit and not the actual character
wicked quarry
Good
paper notch
how so?
wicked quarry
Dont want Elphelt 
north latch
So I’m hearing Kazuya is the hardest character in Tekken 8s starting roster ?
faint ice
everyone wasn't available in the betas
paper notch
Dont want Elphelt <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
no i mean is it confirmed
paper notch
all im finding is the opposite
balmy parrot
PLEASE let it be fake
oh yeah wasn't the next dlc character supposed to be announced soon
when is that?
balmy parrot
Dont want Elphelt <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
why do you hate best girl
wicked quarry
Thats Answer
balmy parrot
🏳️🌈 ?
balmy parrot
—the last words of a mf about to be hit by Magnum Wedding
balmy parrot
don't you still count as 🏳️🌈 tho
faint ice
or did I make it up in my head
There's going to be a december patch
Whether that also includes a character
I am not sure of
faint ice
well that makes me a lot more sure
wicked quarry
don't you still count as 🏳️🌈 tho
Technically not on that flag
Theres a flag that adds the ace colours explicitely
balmy parrot
ah oki
faint ice
but they also said they're going to tune stuff like wild assault and axl & pot for example are getting their new moves
wicked quarry
But yes practically I do I suppose
balmy parrot
EVO really was 4 months ago
faint ice
what makes me think it's elphelt the most
is hungry clicker posting elphelt art
they know all
balmy parrot
and it was cute af too
small furnace
all im finding is the opposite
they lied about making the leaks
so its still up in the air
paper notch
ok so i read this guys tweet correctly
teal pebble
I'm gonna main Sol Badguy
faint ice
while mr kiske stocks are at an all time high?
balmy parrot
is Ky strong?
faint ice
yeah he is, his far slash is super mashable atm and he loves wild assault so everything converts off everything
example of him doing work (dany is amazing too)
balmy parrot
my boy finally made it
for years I was bullied for enjoying my white bread
but now I can exact revenge
wicked quarry
Ky was good for a while tbh
teal pebble
you can have your bread and eat it now Roasty
balmy parrot
I will finish all my educational obligations and go to EVO next year
they will fear my gluten
gaunt cloud
When does the potemkin jetpack update release again?
faint ice
This month
gaunt cloud
Pog
balmy parrot
crude imp
I'm gonna main Sol Badguy
lunar depot
Which GG game is most accessible for newbies? Taking note of it if I wanna play.
crude imp
Strive
crude imp
Or a modern console
lunar depot
I have none of those.
crude imp
Tough
lunar depot
I do have a SNES mini.
lunar depot
Yeah.
lunar depot
north latch
Dragunov with the new swag?
velvet wren
The White Angel of Drip
north latch
Not having Geese in this game is going to feel so weird 
north latch
lunar depot
I had some fighting game ideas. Anyone wanna read them? Or is this not the place for that?
austere garnet
worthy crystal
All I can think about when I see 3S is viscant
worthy crystal
Yeah the shadow just looks weird because she’s actively hitting someone lol
small furnace
heres the article
supposed to be published tomorrow
lol
the interesting bit here is kof mode for guilty gear
they comin after the mexicans and chinese
wicked quarry
Whyyyyyyyyyyy
small furnace
king of fighters is a market largely unexplored by other fg until recently
so i think its good to try it
small furnace
strive players deserve base xrd elphelt like actually
gaunt cloud
That's just hc
balmy parrot
strive players deserve base xrd elphelt like actually
yes
small furnace
That's just hc
its not
worthy crystal
strive players deserve base xrd elphelt like actually
THATS WHAT I SAID
Release xrd elphelt is like HC^4
Character was ungodly
Consistent loopable unblockables with actual reward, generally extremely high reward, insane neutral and offense, she has basically everything but a DP and she still had strong defensive options
A good mash, defensive utilities of grenade, a strong reversal super and blitz make for pretty good defensive tools
She had the same vibe as release Johnny
lunar depot
https://vxtwitter.com/mildsomee/status/1732650600083701779?s=46&t=CpW97EcM4SSmc-...
Not gonna ping. Just reply. How do I do the Hadouken into Denjin thing?
late frost
Denjin's input is QCF QCF
Hadouken input is QCF
so what you do is QCF + punch for the hadouken
then do another QCF + punch to get the super
small furnace
THATS WHAT I SAID
u were so real for that
worthy crystal
Strive players will never complain about ky again if they have to deal with arcade release elphelt f.s
Or the 7f +1 standing low
Or grenade in any concept
Though I will say the gameplay we’ve seen looks pretty cool
worthy crystal
Live happy knowing she’s basically a completely different character attached to a name
winter frigate
Live happy knowing she’s basically a completely different character attached to ...
What's the change
I never played xrd
winter frigate
Okay how's her playstyle now
worthy crystal
Literally different character it looks like
Well we don’t have the official entire moveset
But look up uh
winter frigate
O
worthy crystal
And compare this gameplay to that gameplay
Idk if lostsoul even wins this it’s just the 1st result
winter frigate
Are you pc or console btw?
worthy crystal
PC
doesn’t strive have cross play now or something though
I haven’t really been playing
worthy crystal
Yeah I haven’t been paying attention to that stuff 
They fixed the lobbies recently but I just really don’t want to play this patch
Kind of horrible
winter frigate
Same. But I'm probably gonna be playing more often near end of this month
worthy crystal
Maybe I’ll get back in depending on the patch
winter frigate
Need to become what LowTierGod always aspired to be
winter frigate
They fixed the lobbies recently but I just really don’t want to play this patch
I hear current patch is too snowbally
wicked quarry
Live happy knowing she’s basically a completely different character attached to ...
I mean my issue is not the gameplay
My issue is her design
I dont like it
worthy crystal
I don’t hate it
I liked old elphelt visually but I just detest her personality
Hopefully this one is less abrasive
worthy crystal
I hear current patch is too snowbally
Look up sol vs axl on Twitter
lunar depot
Denjin's input is QCF QCF
Hadouken input is QCF
thanks a lot.
I wanna try Chun Li now, maybe I'll suck less.
worthy crystal
Looks a lot better than chain revolver
I guess we need to see the frame data though
It looks fast though
And extremely notably unlike Noel she can easily combo into it off buttons kekw
And also she can do double overhead/lows
And also the overhead/low seems like an actual 50/50 instead of a reactable low
worthy crystal
The grenade roll thing also looks
Very good
Idk obviously we need to see frame data but still
worthy crystal
Ngl this rekka is dbfz levels of comedy
Bro people complain about fuujin and chipp rekka
The one thing I can see from watching this is just like
I haven’t seen any meterless knockdowns
Also she’s blue WA
wicked quarry
Isnt her 2D a knockdown?
She seems to be able to combo into that off of the bomb roll at least
worthy crystal
Well every character gets HKD off ground hit 2d but that means she has to limit her routing meterless for consistent strong knockdowns
Because air hit 2d don’t HKD
Or else millias #0 issue wouldn’t exist
wicked quarry
True
Patchnotes
Red WA was nerfed, blue was buffed and white was also buffed (??????)
Deflect Shield looks to be just as useless as before
Oh Millia got some nice QoL
Mirazh is now more like roll in that you can now input specials via 1 direction + button
And jH has less knockback so you can combo off of it on-hit easier
Huh, Bridget buffs
Not sure why
worthy crystal
Asking why Bridget buffs when they literally didn’t touch Ram
wicked quarry
Asking why Bridget buffs when they literally didn’t touch Ram
I mean my hot take is that Ram is eternally overrated in the west
worthy crystal
Unless I have it backwards they made Nagiha even worse
True I forgot you were wrong
Anyways
wicked quarry
People keep putting her in the top 5 and then she never performs at events
(Ok its not never but way less than Sol, Sin and the like)
worthy crystal
They “buffed” 6h so he could get knockdowns off his mash but
He could already do that????
worthy crystal
Normally I think arcsys knows what they’re doing but I literally don’t know if they play this character @faint ice
wicked quarry
But makes for more fun movement?
worthy crystal
Also sin did not get a real nerf
wicked quarry
Not a lot of characters did
worthy crystal
The only change I’m actually really interested in besides the HC nerfs is drill
wicked quarry
Pretty much just Asuka (since he wasnt changed last time) and Nago
wicked quarry
HC I will only consider a real nerf if I can see it in action
They increased the concentration cost before
worthy crystal
and f.s increased recovery on ky
worthy crystal
All of which are at least tangible number changes
gaunt cloud
Red WA was nerfed, blue was buffed and white was also buffed (??????)
Daisuke is gonna take a face mask off like a scooby doo villain and reveal himself to be nago
wicked quarry
Also damn, the GL downplayers won
worthy crystal
I don’t think nerfing a characters damage has ever made a character not good in strive so far
wicked quarry
White WA randomly buffed, deflect shield is still useless and theyre buffing the character himself too
worthy crystal
They did it 3 different times with sol in much more blunt terms than sin is getting
And he is still extremely strong
wicked quarry
2k buff is whatever but I swear if they nerfed his fS because it was an esports button then make his 2s into a new esports button
worthy crystal
Idk idc whatever maybe barrel does actually no damage
I’ll just play elphelt now I guess
wicked quarry
Also idk what Testament changes do
wicked quarry
Oh nvm its just recovery decreased on 2s
Im guessing it lets you put enemies airborne in situations where rn it doesnt
But
... what does that do for them?
5k change I think is good
Makes 5k 2k 2d more consistent
worthy crystal
... what does that do for them?
I mean it just opens up better combo routes
Assumedly you can do c.s c.s 2h
Or something like that
6h HKD thing is also really big for Bedman
Lets you automeaty people with the guard crush or set up stupid setups way easier
I guess I just really wanna see the red WA change because there’s a non zero chance they didn’t really meaningfully change it
haughty zodiac
that transition to elphelts song starting was so weird lmao
also wait is that the first time they showed the supers in a character trailer rather than just the startup?
or well just the startup of the 2nd
winter frigate
Yeah I can get behind this @worthy crystal https://youtu.be/gXdQ33PN8gg?si=6x881VlqxmIJ8Uip
I'll be winning EVO 2024 with my riveting Elphelt gameplay. Make sure you tune in!
nova pagoda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5Hb7LxF28
isn't this the chick with the wedding gown in the last game
I like the glow up
haughty zodiac
yes
haughty zodiac
Yeah I can get behind this <@364939622343507988> https://youtu.be/gXdQ33PN8gg?si...
so chain lollipop starts after specials so do i only need to input S after a special or has to start with its special input?
oh my god she goes screamo in her super
faint ice
Does she say die at the end lmao
faint ice
Red wild assault was easily the best and it wasn't close
faint ice
Why did the nerf blue burst
worthy crystal
They heard people complain about getting memed by burst and nerfed the wrong one
haughty zodiac
bro her winning screen scream is something
north latch
Hold up I just found out Kuma is inheriting half of heihachi’s moves in Tekken 8???
late frost
poggers storytelling through movesets
lunar depot
That sounds cool.
But how does one pull that off without being accused of recycling movesets?
worthy crystal
Recycling movesets isn’t some sin that must be avoided
It has purposes and ultimately it’s unavoidable anyways
Especially in a game like tekken
lunar depot
Noted.
north latch
Also it makes sense as Kuma is basically the only son that made Heihachi happy
lunar depot
So a master and his student can have similar movesets?
winter frigate
Apparently the consensus is ppl like the redesign of Elphelt @worthy crystal
Tbh comparing this version to xrd, I like the strive one more too
The whole waifu bride wanna get married thing looks kinda annoying
worthy crystal
I think her visuals are good but hated the personality
Gameplay wise this one clears though easily
Shotgun stance was an eldritch horror that could’ve been an entire character on its own
haughty zodiac
wait so trump didn't make it in because they stopped talking about the idea as their driver hated trump?
granted i assume this is memeing
faint ice
@winter frigate we playing?
winter frigate
<@181089711509602305> we playing?
mayhaps. waiting for my friend to download so just gonna eat & come back to things
haughty zodiac
i dunno if there's a better combo yet off of CH 6H in corner but damage looks nutty whilst looking goofy af https://streamable.com/nkvymb
worthy crystal
I think you get better damage if you do 6h 214h c.s
Unsure though
But that does let you do c.s > 6h again
haughty zodiac
I think you get better damage if you do 6h 214h c.s
yeah doing 214h it went lower
haughty zodiac
But that does let you do c.s > 6h again
just improved to 221 damage will try a bit more
combo line now CH 6H > cS > 6H > 214H > cS > 6H > 214K (WS) > 6H
yeah 214S at end doesn't improve nott sure if can higher given that 6H spam
@worthy crystal ok turns out that improved combo doing 221 damage already been labbed lmao, also it works at midscreen
cosmic forge
Anyone want a Hsien-Ko comic
winter frigate
After playing strive for 4 hours today
This game is fun
New character hella fun too
Tried Bridget for first time and she's surprisingly clean with her combos so might look into her more
lunar depot
Random poll: would y’all play a fighting game styled like a shounen battle manga?
haughty zodiac
so just to confirm but the growl voice in elphelt's theme is also molly?
balmy parrot
yes
haughty zodiac
wild af
wicked quarry
Do we think there is any chance that Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising is gonna actually do well?
steel gale
depends on what you mean by 'doing well'
i don't expect it'll be much bigger than versus was, however much that was
wicked quarry
Discord fighter level
steel gale
there'll be people who buy it for actually playing it, and people who buy the physical version for the codes to use in the gacha : ^)
wicked quarry
Tbh Id only consider it if online play was reliable
Mostly because Grimnir looks neat
steel gale
fellow chuuni connoisseur
wicked quarry
Less that and more "he has answers gimmick"
faint ice
Discord fighter level
The game has a free version
It's going to be bigger than base
It also has rollback so online play isn't a question
north latch
late frost
Rising is the first major game where simplified and complex inputs are in the same game and have the same outcome
so it'll be interesting to see how the input meta settles
lunar depot
I wanna make a fighting game of my own… but I don’t know where to start…
I have ideas, sure, but I don’t have the technical knowhow.
wicked quarry
The game has a free version
Wait it does?
faint ice
It's essentially similar to a freemium system
You don't have all the content like story etc
and characters for play will be on a weekly rotation
faint ice
I think more options is better than less
wicked quarry
True but that means I can only sometimes play Grimnir
worthy crystal
You don't have all the content like story etc
Like doa but good actually
faint ice
True but that means I can only sometimes play Grimnir
- if you don't just buy it
Giving others the opportunity to dip their toes if they vibe with it is great
and has no interference with ppl down to pick it up regardless
worthy crystal
Wait till you find out why
lunar depot
pearl burrow
Gran and Djeeta don't sound all too different.
They're literally the MC lol
It's a typical thing where you choose your name and gender at the start, but both have "default" names for the community to refer to them with
"Granjeeta" is fairly common usage when people want to refer to the MC regardless of gender
pearl burrow
On one hand, that's literally three characters from the first game plus a newcomer lol
On the other hand, it has just sunk in that the entire cast rotates out for the free version. Dunno why in retrospect but I assumed it was like Brawlhalla or even the SF6 demo where they had a few default characters
lunar depot
It's a typical thing where you choose your name and gender at the start, but bot...
Ohhhh, got it.
faint ice
On the other hand, it has just sunk in that the _entire_ cast rotates out for th...
Gran stays forever
The others change
paper notch
"Oh yeah, im free to play in grandblue" boutta have a new meaning
hollow swift
Well, not like I can play it.
hint hint
male female protag
wicked quarry
Do you get online with the free versioon?
faint ice
you can play training arcade and online yes
winter frigate
BRO I JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO THIS INPUT @faint ice @worthy crystal
Omg I've ascended to a new level
faint ice
he's in training bro
winter frigate
I legit always thought the move was like (right > down > right) but turns out I don't do the full quarter circle which is why it was so inconsistent when I was playing Ky
worthy crystal
Also why do you have P mapped to A that feels vile
faint ice
wait where is A on your controller
worthy crystal
A is X on a ps controller
faint ice
I guess I can understand it
winter frigate
Isn't A just punch?
faint ice
default it's kick
winter frigate
A is middle bottom button
Ah
Yeah I changed it around a little bit bc the controls were really weird at first
Has like Heavy Slash and Slash as R1 and R2
Which didn't seem right
lunar depot
DP’ing consistently is my weakness. I cannot do it for some reason. Any tips?
faint ice
if you can do it sometimes
it's a matter of practicing drills in training mode at that point
Gonna check if GB rising is up
winter frigate
DP’ing consistently is my weakness. I cannot do it for some reason. Any tips?
I was literally doing it in practice mode for 30 mins trying to figure out why it wasn't working consistently before it clicked that I was doing the input haphazardly
Now it's coming out clean & precise
lunar depot
More or less.
winter frigate
My issue is I was treating the final input as a full quarter circle (was basically doing ➡️⬇️➡️) instead of going forward-down-diagonal and leaving it there
That doesn't sound like your issue tho. Maybe you're inputting the movement too slowly?
faint ice
Right arrow, then into a Hadouken. (Facing right)
this is too much
you don't need to finish a hadouken
(it will still work)
This is hadouken: ⬇️ ↘️ ➡️
You've been DPing by adding a forward to start it: ➡️ ⬇️ ↘️ ➡️
DP only needs the first 3 inputs to come out: ➡️ ⬇️ ↘️
winter frigate
Yeah that's basically how I was messing up too lol
lunar depot
IDK, maybe it’s the layout of my keyboard.
I don’t have a D pad.
I only have up, down, left, and right arrows.
No in betweenies.
faint ice
in between is just both inputs at the same time
winter frigate
You probably have to press down and right at same time to get the diagonal, no?
faint ice
down and forward will give u down forward on keyboard
late frost
the games themselves only really recognize the four cardinal directions
and then it identifies the eight diagonals by combinations of cardinal directions
lunar depot
Ah. Understood. Many thanks.
haughty zodiac
DP’ing consistently is my weakness. I cannot do it for some reason. Any tips?
practice it to develop muscle memory
it took me a while to get it down for nago
faint ice
perma gran f2p main
late frost
do share how it feels
I know the last iteration struggled with being too complex for new players, but too boring for seasoned players
faint ice
I did play the beta, it's kinda cool to have more ways to extend offense
late frost
also bad netcode when netcode was extremely important
haughty zodiac
I know the last iteration struggled with being too complex for new players, but ...
how do you fuck up for both camps?
late frost
there is an awkward middle ground
and it found it
haughty zodiac
wait was the free version difference?
oh saw a description, so essentially get 4 characters to play in different temporary periods?
paper notch
yeah, with gran being always available and the other 3 rotating
faint ice
there any good sources on how they all play?
gran & djeeta are both ryu
siegfried is big hitter
zeta revolves around dashing at you with spear
I didn't even realize you can play the fall guys mode f2p lol
faint ice
Playing my first online match triggered my firewall 👀
haughty zodiac
gran & djeeta are both ryu
who would you say is closest to nago like gameplan of swapping between patient footsies and capitalising by being hyper aggro?
dreamy mason
Right arrow, then into a Hadouken. (Facing right)
depending on the game it can be more lenient than that
haughty zodiac
anre looks interesting
paper notch
Zeta i think
haughty zodiac
oh ok nice so atleast 1 character i'm interested in for first rotation
how long are rotations?
paper notch
First one is a week
dreamy mason
I’ll try zeta she cute
haughty zodiac
its like a month or something after?
paper notch
I wouldnt know
haughty zodiac
still halfway through rooflemongers playstyle video though anre and zeta are my main interest ones
paper notch
blud is looking at playstlyes instead of just going of of vibes
faint ice
Zeta's cool I played a bit of her in the old one
Just mashed a bit with Gran there his rising super looks sick
faint ice
who would you say is closest to nago like gameplan of swapping between patient f...
siegfried is the aggro out of the f2p options tbh
haughty zodiac
siegfried is the aggro out of the f2p options tbh
oh i will say i'm not looking for just pure aggro
haughty zodiac
blud is looking at playstlyes instead of just going of of vibes
you saying roofle or me?
faint ice
you
haughty zodiac
i mean i'm looking at both
haughty zodiac
like i'm not gonna vibe with a pure zoner
also anre is like visually one i like most so far
faint ice
she looks fun
haughty zodiac
she looks fun
isn't anre a dude?
haughty zodiac
oh vid hadn't gotten to her yet though find her design funni
haughty zodiac
I thought u said the sheep girl
so i think 3 characters who interest me most are anre, anila and zeta
lunar depot
practice it to develop muscle memory
Noted.
haughty zodiac
in free mode can i practice other characters?
also is rising like a rerelease of the 2020 granblue since graphics look the same?
similar to like those + versions of previous GG titles
faint ice
in free mode can i practice other characters?
no it's still only the 4
faint ice
I wouldn't call it rev 2 more than it is similar to uni 2
haughty zodiac
btw does this game have like half circle forward inputs?
also is this game or strive easier?
late frost
It does have traditional inputs
But you can use the simple inputs and the moves have the same properties
faint ice
apparently in neutral technical does 10% more
but yeah the game essentially has modern controls, I think you just have to get used to the proximity normals similar to close slash/far slash
haughty zodiac
but yeah the game essentially has modern controls, I think you just have to get ...
doesn't strive have that just with slash?
faint ice
that's what I'm saying
haughty zodiac
oh that's what you meant
faint ice
the game has it for light medium & heavy
haughty zodiac
but yeah i heard this game is easier than strive?
i take it as like strive being my only FG i should prob avoid nier and narmaya because hard af?
faint ice
I don't think so? I also saw a bunch of narmayas today ngl
haughty zodiac
like i saw combos where they just changing stance so bloody much
faint ice
I will say the cancel window in strive is intentionally pretty wide for most things
and usually something som1 notices playing a different FG coming from it
haughty zodiac
i don't mind that its more that like not playing many FG's that a lot of the stuff doesn't come naturally like i mostly just grinded out nago, couldn't transfer well to other characters since he's weird
took me a while to get 623 inputs down but have in the end though fuck half circle forward
lunar depot
dreamy mason
Zeta's moveset is pretty stylish
I'm having trouble connecting to my friend in lobby cabinet though
worthy crystal
I hate zeta ong
winter frigate
Y'all wanna game today/tonight? @faint ice @worthy crystal
Might get a couple of my friends (they're also relatively noob at fighting games) to play too
Also what's the counter to pot just spamming jump attack at you? Seems pretty broken and I unironically lost to that y'day... @faint ice
hollow swift
would love to buy gbvs if it wasnt so expensive
hollow swift
https://vxtwitter.com/Dacidbro/status/1735449044200325144?s=20
lol
haughty zodiac
Also what's the counter to pot just spamming jump attack at you? Seems pretty br...
megafist?
faint ice
Also what's the counter to pot just spamming jump attack at you? Seems pretty br...
Forward megafist looks way better than it is, it's actually minus and every time you block it non spaced it's your turn again
Back megafist isn't so minus though
haughty zodiac
back megafist is plus
kara cancel back is slightly negative though
but yeah forward megafist is -6 so you straight up can punish with fast normal combo if they got left close
kara cancel megafist looks like he's barely moving horizontally and this is -2 so beware and yeah backwards megafist is +4
gaunt cloud
It was over the moment they announced the free version
worthy crystal
Y'all wanna game today/tonight? <@199566048750469120> <@364939622343507988>
I’m so busy today lmao
faint ice
Y'all wanna game today/tonight? <@199566048750469120> <@364939622343507988>
Yeah I can game, gotta give a time in advance as your hours are much later than mine, but it's a friday only obstacle is me getting tired
haughty zodiac
does granblue have any like half circle forward motions?
wait hang on so trigger can dash forwards but you can't do backwards like strive?
gaunt cloud
does granblue have any like half circle forward motions?
I remember them having 360s and 720s but i'm not sure on half circles
haughty zodiac
I remember them having 360s and 720s but i'm not sure on half circles
its more the forward part on top that made it hard for me
also so from what i heard simpler inputs reduce damage but not if within a combo?
haughty zodiac
In neutral simple specials do 10% less
so with like zeta's charge move the follow ups i can just press the trigger button rather than re input entire motion and same damage but first hit will be reduced if doing that?
oh actually i can just press single buttons regardless for that, but yeah mid combo i can just press trigger and no penalty?
worthy crystal
In the new one there is no difference
No cooldown difference
pearl burrow
watching an FGC streamer rn and he brought this up as the reason why he bought the PS4 version of GBVSR even though he's playing on a PS5
haughty zodiac
have to say liking how the game feels as a beginner
dreamy mason
I tried out the Poison function today with friends, seems intuitive
faint ice
Oh Ferry?
She's always been solid
I heard she doesn't like how offensive rising is
@winter frigate asked to play then didn't even respond the whole day 
paper notch
i was wondering why the connecting took so long, blud really put me on japan
paper notch
i was not asked
wicked quarry
Im surprised its not the big armoured dude voiced by ProZD (I forgor his name)
faint ice
Vaseraga?
wicked quarry
Ye
paper notch
not a free character i fear
wicked quarry
Damn
gaunt cloud
Vaseraga is voiced by prozd?
wicked quarry
Ye
gaunt cloud
Holy shit
haughty zodiac
this siegfried character seems p fun
i'm liking zeta a lot
faint ice
zetas very fun
haughty zodiac
zetas very fun
made this corner combo: cHHH > 214HH > jH > cMMM > M+H > 236236H
(not sure what notation is for the guard break so just put M+H)
haughty zodiac
jesus why is the granblue DLC pack so expensive
definitely gonna buy any characters individually
haughty zodiac
lmao looking at a old character primer for pre rising granblue and have a difficulty comment for each character and usually highlights quite a bit and seox its just "Difficulty: Easy"
faint ice
He was also super strong in that version too
haughty zodiac
also vibing with siegfried
worthy crystal
He was also super strong in that version too
He still seems pretty good in rising
haughty zodiac
i think i'll play zeta more once i've gotten used to the game more
i think i'll pick up narmaya since like she sounds closest to nagoriyuki
haughty zodiac
more in terms of swapping in and out of footsies and rushdown
haughty zodiac
granblue gotten up to very positive reviews now and most negative are still due to regional pricing and another major thing being keyboard support
gaunt cloud
does anyone know when the strive season passes go on sale?
apparently they never do
bummer
pearl burrow
haughty zodiac
just won my first match in gbvsr
only took about 30
who you playing?
faint ice
he said something about liking siegfried
paper notch
yeah it siegfried
got my shit punched in for a bit with everyone and their mother knowing like half health combos apparently
but i am slowly learning my options now
haughty zodiac
you want a random siegfried combo?
paper notch
no
haughty zodiac
should say the big health combos are likely all burning a lot of resources
paper notch
yeah that doesnt matter when i am turbo bad
gaunt cloud
Me when universal movement option that leaves you +2 on block
haughty zodiac
looking at that thread and others, why is twitter suddenly swamped by some weird tinder profile spam accounts with like NFT or roblox pfp's
worthy crystal
Me when universal movement option that leaves you +2 on block
AND COMBOS ON HIT
haughty zodiac
also was that a joke that nier broken?
worthy crystal
Yes