Is Base Goku the same
#Fighting Game Chat
late frost
No, Base Goku seems to be current Goku in base form
Although his moves and references are primarily to Z-era, pre-SS Goku
pearl burrow
He never uses any techniques from post-Frieza arc though, does he?
And his lines too
late frost
late frost
Caught up on DBFZ at Evo
||Fusions win again||
wicked quarry
Did hit fall off?
paper notch
pearl burrow
How many Rashid players made it through the bracket?
Mainly watched MBTL and DBFZ yesterday
dreamy mason
there's also a [M]odern rep in the top 6
quasi pineBOT
there's also a [M]odern rep in the top 6
Level: 3
[ Warrior / Normal ]
ATK 1000 / DEF 500
teal pebble
Lol
pearl burrow
I feel like I shouldn’t be as surprised by the Ken dominance as I am, but
vapid lake
nice oc
steel gale
late frost
Tekken 8 reveals
nova pagoda
holy shit pinochio in tekken 8
late frost
This reveal lines up with a leak I saw
wicked quarry
@austere garnet
hexed forum
EVO at home
wicked quarry
Z M C
faint ice
tekken 8 debut girl is interesting
pearl burrow
Tfw Rev2 and LoL but not Strive
wicked quarry
MvCI too
teal pebble
Tfw Rev2 and LoL but not Strive
Rev2 is cooler
balmy parrot
mellow palm
He’s heeeeeeeeere
mellow palm
@worthy crystal
balmy parrot
please add Greed Sever
paper notch
If i had the hey johnny kohaku clip i woulda posted it
austere garnet
@wicked quarry
paper notch
But swampe was faster than me
mellow palm
Pls add venom tho
austere garnet
I was hoping for 2D but I’m not surprised
wicked quarry
Why did Ram of all people get a new special?
austere garnet
Not horrendously different
The shading is a lot more extreme in parts
balmy parrot
everyone's gonna get new specials
wicked quarry
Eventually yes
But I wouldnt have put Ram in the first wave
Johnny looks good tho
austere garnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGgkwLAutgs
His theme is
A theme of all time
Very odd
gaunt cloud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGgkwLAutgs
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO
MY MAIN RETURNS
(One of them, at least)
pearl burrow
JOHNNYYYYYYYYYYYY
He sounds good, looks good, fights good, and his music is even better
So here
pearl burrow
Isn’t it sad, Sacchin?
lunar depot
If Akuma were to be sent to the world of Mortal Kombat, who’s the strongest character he can beat?
worthy crystal
THEY ADDED BLITZ SHIELD
Unfortunate.
worthy crystal
That’s even sicker
balmy parrot
every hit converted into a corner carry with meter
worthy crystal
Than getting legacy moves
worthy crystal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGgkwLAutgs
HE LOOKS SO COOL
IM PLAYING JOHNATHAN
balmy parrot
I am too
worthy crystal
THEY COULD MAKE MILLIA TOP 1 AND I WOULDNT CARE
Do we have any footage of the new moves
Is it being revealed literally rn
So the first super they showed was a reference to his astral
And the 2nd was just obviously that’s my name
late frost
https://twitter.com/TSM_Leffen/status/1688360441784025088?s=20
Couldn't even drown in SF6 pools like a man
Tweeted out he wouldn't show up 
worthy crystal
So the first super they showed was a reference to his astral
Bruh I just called it that
Whatever
Too much blazblue
He also visually looks amazing (in every sense)
Hearing English Johnny is so cursed though
I don’t play dubbed but I’m just gonna hear that every single time now
balmy parrot
Twitter
late frost
EVO Japan is back
worthy crystal
I assume (and very strongly hope) that bacchus sigh is gone though
In a game where knockdowns are literally guaranteed on every hit bacchus sigh would be extremely insane
wicked quarry
Do we have any footage of the new moves
Ye, sec
late frost
oh
next year's EVO
Ju;y 26-28, 2024
worthy crystal
I just saw it
You know of all the characters
Who DIDNT need ways to vary their pressure and regain space against people who FD them out
Ramlethal and May
balmy parrot
this is only 4 of the 6, we'll see the last 2 later
worthy crystal
They’ll give new moves to all the original roster
wicked quarry
I think Deflect Shield is probably fine depending on how it interacts with oki
Wild Assault however Im not sure is a good addition
worthy crystal
Pushblock is very cool
I am uncertain about the other one
When roast said blitz I was a lot more scared than I am actually
wicked quarry
Pushblock is cool, Im only concerned if its an easy way to stop Millia
Wild Assault though
balmy parrot
do you not like blitz shield?
worthy crystal
I don’t hate blitz but I will say
People do not remember how good it was
Unless they played answer or Bedman LMFAO
wicked quarry
Wild Assault worries me because it looks like goldlewis has a decently long dash thats fully invuln
balmy parrot
taking him to EVO next year, promise
worthy crystal
Blitz was an extremely strong mechanic in a game that was much more offensively potent
wicked quarry
And it looks to knock upwards into a full combo
worthy crystal
Strive is full of mid dispensers who struggle to vary pressure, blitz in this game would destroy the game
We only saw CH
Don’t doom yet
wicked quarry
Ye I know
worthy crystal
There’s also a chance it scales
wicked quarry
But I am concerned especially with how invuln it is
I just hope its not a guardbreak like the others
If its minus on block to the point where you can punish it its probably fine
worthy crystal
Well if properties vary by every character to that extreme of a degree
wicked quarry
Im assuming they do
worthy crystal
I’d be a little surprised
wicked quarry
They dont look like theyre all invuln either
worthy crystal
I’m just gonna assume until proven otherwise that it’s similar to crush triggers in blazblue
Where they have some different properties but generally follow a pretty standard outline
worthy crystal
In CF, they were much more varied in CP
wicked quarry
Though the ranges are clearly quite different
worthy crystal
But they’re all 0 on block (+3 on barrier), guard crush on normal block have the same startup
Well we don’t know now and we won’t know until they tell us
Best not to worry too much
worthy crystal
He’d be an entirely different character
Also Johnny got card so chances are even more unlikely
Answer wasn’t exactly popular
He was cool though
wicked quarry
Eh, Johnnys cards work differently
They're more like stain state
(From what we can see)
So given that overlap exists, I think there is nothing in theory standing in the way of Answer
But yeah, sadly he wasnt popular enough
worthy crystal
Emphasis was more on answer being unpopular
And his actual gimmick definitely not being able to work in strive
wicked quarry
I wouldnt mind if his gimmick changed as long as it was cool
balmy parrot
I might actually go to the next EVO next year
like, participating too
might be playing Strive and SF6
faint ice
I'm super curious about the 3rd EVO location
balmy parrot
uhh
EVO's happening in Las Vegas again, same place
they had a whole speech about Nevada
balmy parrot
we already got Elphelt
Elphelt's their dead name, they go by Happy Chaos now
so happy about their transition
worthy crystal
HC will never compare to elphelt
He actually has hurtboxes on his normals
And you can actually combo him
balmy parrot
worthy crystal
His theme sounded a little mid it’s ok though
worthy crystal
Also instead of xrd zwei it’s worth noting he has plussy zwei + killer ace
worthy crystal
plussy zwei?
It worked very differently than in xrd
No kick so it wasn’t a knockdown tool
gaunt cloud
Man
I need to get a better pc asap
I want strive to run at more than 20 fps
Johnny looks so fucking fun
balmy parrot
just run on potato resolution, it's fine
gaunt cloud
20 fps is after the potato mod + low on every setting
balmy parrot
wow
gaunt cloud
I need to understand just how bad an intel celeron is
Anyway
Extremely biased here
But i am looking forward to the totsugeki cancel
worthy crystal
I hope balance changes are more drastic than the season 2 ones were
worthy crystal
Especially if they’re giving new tools to characters who have proven to be extremely strong
Well he won evo last year
And we know what happened
balmy parrot
changed nothing?
gaunt cloud
Also drive rush lmao (i know sfvi didnt invent a universal dash attack pls dont kill me)
balmy parrot
still corners-to-corners off any starter and builds 50% meter off the combo alone and wallbreaks for half of anyone's HP
worthy crystal
Didn’t change how good he was
Refer to this
gaunt cloud
Adding johnny to this list may be harder to balance around
worthy crystal
I played Ino and then they killed her
wicked quarry
I hope balance changes are more drastic than the season 2 ones were
Same
Gut Happy chaos, gut Goldlewis, gut Nago, and make Millia good 
balmy parrot
I just don't think any character should be able to do that HC does
worthy crystal
And then I played testament and that was pretty cool but Jonny looks extremely sick
gaunt cloud
I play like
pearl burrow
Wait is Street Fighter finals already finished?
gaunt cloud
Pot, may, faust, hc, bedman, and asuka
balmy parrot
no
Strive finals got done
they're announcing stuff and doing Street Fighter Top 6 in a bit
pearl burrow
Oh OK, thank gooness
Was hoping to be at a point where I could watch the stream but I'm running late lol
worthy crystal
Pot, may, faust, hc, bedman, and asuka
What a lineup
What do all of these characters have in common?
That’s right.
Actually I don’t know what they have in common
faint ice
Gut Happy chaos, gut Goldlewis, gut Nago, and make Millia good <:nyaruhodo:87305...
this one hell of a shopping list for disappointment
gaunt cloud
"I think their kit is cool" is what links them
wicked quarry
this one hell of a shopping list for disappointment
Maybe
But its also the only way the game becomes playable
worthy crystal
ArcSys is not known for wide sweeping balance changes
faint ice
EVO's happening in Las Vegas again, same place
No I mean the announcer suggested a 3rd location that he can't go into details about
I wasn't talking about the end of july
wicked quarry
Actually I don’t know what they have in common
They all have Guardcrushes?
worthy crystal
Pink whale guard crushes
faint ice
yeah
worthy crystal
Oh that’s why I’ve never seen it
worthy crystal
Play testament
late frost
this was not the crossover I was expecting
balmy parrot
I play Ky but if they're not adding Greed Sever I'm a Johnny one-trick
worthy crystal
ArcSys is not known for wide sweeping balance changes
Since the game came out, all the top tiers who were initially top tier have stayed extremely strong, save for sol who is still good, most of the characters on the weaker end of the roster have stayed in that general area, and across arcsys games as a whole there is generally not huge balance shifts too often
Johnny and elphelt were top 5 the entire runtime of xrd
wicked quarry
Except in FighterZ, ish
worthy crystal
That they existed in
Fighterz got way more patches and attention in general than most of their other children
gaunt cloud
UI goku man
balmy parrot
I HATE FighterZ
worthy crystal
CF only got like 2 large patches, CPEX literally got nothing
P4U got a few patches but nothing major
dreamy mason
AKI 
balmy parrot
and then Leffen tweets live on-stage before he receives the award
"I'm one of the best fighting game players ever"
gaunt cloud
Wait
worthy crystal
Chipp dropper
gaunt cloud
Leffen's hc won?
worthy crystal
Shame
balmy parrot
yes
gaunt cloud
C r i n g e
faint ice
she's definitely keeping the poison theme
gaunt cloud
Anyway i need to save money for pass 3 lol
dreamy mason
sajam yipes on commentary :FeelsOkayMan:
late frost
damn hating on the goat commentator and sajam?
late frost
look I couldn't see the emote okay
oh right
damn
no James Chen for Street Fighter
feels so weird now that you mention it
maybe he's on a secondary stream?
austere garnet
Most hype trailer so far
Reptile redesign is the best thing they’ve done so far
And them showing off havok means we will probably get onaga as a main villain if it wasn’t already obvious before
And the stages are something I didn’t expect to be soo good
They’re beautiful
faint ice
maybe he's on a secondary stream?
he's not on sunday
wicked quarry
faint ice
he was on friday saturday
wicked quarry
Idk if this was posted here
wicked quarry
Bro wtf is the second guy cooking
Fuck leverless controllers, were doing buttonless controllers
Oh apparently its called a "hurtbox"
balmy parrot
this is the best EVO Top 6 this year
dreamy mason
true
gaunt cloud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n77nLTyHNsM
Oh wow, rashid has like, just came out
They work on these fast
dreamy mason
gdlk round from tokido
faint ice
clutch does not begin to describe
nova pagoda
@faint ice did they reveal blazblue 5 yet
balmy parrot
dude
dreamy mason
hoping punk will take it home now that my favorites are out
balmy parrot
this is so GOATed
faint ice
Punk winning would be amazing, he has still not lost a game this whole tourney
pearl burrow
Yeah he looks just in the zone
dreamy mason
pearl burrow
pearl burrow
Okay that perfect KO from the Modern Chun-Li was NICE
balmy parrot
Chun-Li*
late frost
Android 17 has become more common after he got put on the map
balmy parrot
don't be slipping baby this is STREET FIGHTER
pearl burrow
oh gosh the Luke came RIGHT BACK with a perfect KO via super
dreamy mason
taken to memphis 
pearl burrow
b r u h
pearl burrow
this is even scrappier than the last match
dreamy mason
if that was will it kill i would've lost all my channel points
balmy parrot
that's the last Modern user
late frost
Classic wins again
pearl burrow
o7, put up a really good fight
dreamy mason
mena the gatekeeper
pearl burrow
lmao my laptop is no longer strong enough to withstand FighterZ
and Steam Deck can't run it because of the anti-cheat stuff
pearl burrow
nope, the game's just straight-up incompatible
pearl burrow
late frost
||Punk finally dropped a game||
pearl burrow
oh goodness
pearl burrow
yeah there's still a number of ways this could go
faint ice
I bet on the wrong bird making it to grand finals
late frost
how did Idom do
dreamy mason
how did Idom do
pearl burrow
oh Mena is going Blanka?
balmy parrot
THE PEOPLE'S CHAMPION
dreamy mason
v trigger activated
lunar depot
In today’s news, SF6 A.K.I. trailer dropped.
lunar depot
Since you guys prolly knew already, I’ll just say that.
pearl burrow
the crowd cheering along with the intro was hype
they both got knocked into burnout at the SAME TIME
AND THAT'S MENAAARD
late frost
he is
ballin'
faint ice
THAT WAS INSANE
pearl burrow
oh wait I completely forgot, this was Winner's Finals wasn't it
late frost
losers' semis
balmy parrot
no that was Loser's Semis
pearl burrow
oh LMAO
late frost
next is losers' finals
faint ice
mena v punk
balmy parrot
we got PUNK VERSUS MENARD
faint ice
and winner v angrybird
balmy parrot
THIS IS GONNA BE INSANE
pearl burrow
I got swept up by Menard's hype lol
late frost
shit dawg do I spend $60 on a game my computer can't run
faint ice
if u cant play it dont
pearl burrow
I mean it does include a pretty baller single player mode
I'd say get a device that can run it first
late frost
the singleplayer is even more of a computer check lol
faint ice
yeah world tour is demanding lol
dreamy mason
reaction dp vs blanka ball is crazy
dreamy mason
NOOOO
balmy parrot
this is so hype
pearl burrow
ngl I was definitely rooting for Punk at the end of that one
but endless respect to Menard for the clutch
balmy parrot
angrybird vs menard
late frost
here we go
pearl burrow
yo Angrybird is on a ROLL
faint ice
I feel like when you have a sub you swap on the first loss, not on the 2nd
it feels so risky to swap
dreamy mason
is it ft3?
faint ice
The reset
pearl burrow
would've been if it was angrybird
faint ice
Lets goo
pearl burrow
they're firing all cylinders so hard and I keep leaning forward in my chair with every decisive blow lol
balmy parrot
THE DAIGO PARRY
pearl burrow
I think I have broken it forever
o7
late frost
yeah I was replacing a sticky button
dreamy mason
ps5 melting usb ports
late frost
and ended up damaging one of the connectors
late frost
ps5 melting usb ports
damn could you imagine if Sony owned Evo
they could theoretically force Evo to always use PS5
balmy parrot
HE WENT BACK TO BLANKA
dreamy mason
punk wasn't doing nearly as many crosscut DPs as angrybird here
balmy parrot
THIS IS TRUE EVO
pearl burrow
EVO CHAMP 2023
dreamy mason
GGs
pearl burrow
GG
dreamy mason
damn im full of KENERGY idk if i can sleep
pearl burrow
I kinda wanna tune into Max's stream, I know he's popping off so hard lol
balmy parrot
I'm SO playing SF6 and GGST next year
pearl burrow
good luck
I'd be content with more time for Street Fighter 6 in my life lol
or just fighting games in general
late frost
Gonna try a couple DBFZ games before I sleep
faint ice
1 round closer to evo champion?
Angrybird straight up stopped even though rules probably give him the round
pearl burrow
Straight up sportsmanship
All the top 8 guys were laughing, smiling, shaking hands and clapping backs
balmy parrot
dude
I was watching with friends and we were blasting music
this made it even better
balmy parrot
goodnight
late frost
whew
one of my buttons broke mid-game
still managed to close it out because I was significanatly higher ranked
man I love fighting games
I have lost all my instincts for this game
still had fun scrambling and not doing optimal confirms
nova pagoda
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091906025176699094/1137981565750747186/D...
Tbf that song is just high tier
I loop that shit when I grind on db
paper notch
wicked quarry
balmy parrot
yeah
the best character in the game won in one of his best matchups
look at this matchup spread
his worst MU's are 50/50
wicked quarry
Tbh Im not sure I agree with Millia being favourable for HC
But yeah character is busted
I hope he gets nerfed proper
balmy parrot
the funny thing is I wouldn't even mind if it was someone else playing HC
but any amount of skill Leffen may have as a player is thrown out the window because of his awful personality
and the things he's done
it's also really hard to balance HC because he's broken on a conceptual level
you can't tweak framedata or hitboxes to balance him, the gun is that makes him broken
but if you gut the gun he's useless because that's what he uses to corner-to-corner off his weakest hit and wallbreak with meter into positive bonus
wicked quarry
What I can see them do is make his pressure weaker
By making reload take longer
So he cant just go hit, reload, hit, reload
balmy parrot
they could also remove his other super, the one that reloads for him
wicked quarry
I also think its time to introduce staleness to Guard crushes
Make repeated guard crushes do less and less chip damage
And take less and less meter through FD
balmy parrot
what I'd like to see is a change in regards to his chip damage on his bullets
wicked quarry
they could also remove his other super, the one that reloads for him
Deus Ex Machina? I dont think theyre gonna remove his only damaging super
balmy parrot
I think he shouldn't be able to kill with bullet chip
wicked quarry
Or do you mean the one that refills concentration
wicked quarry
I think he shouldn't be able to kill with bullet chip
Ye thats why I wanna stale guardcrush
Would also fix the most infuriating part of Goldlewis
balmy parrot
I have no idea, but it should be something that avoids the situation of him using positive bonus to reset concentration like 8 seconds after the wallbreak animation finishes
wicked quarry
Yeah fair
Hmmmmm
I wanna say an install, but what kind of install wouldnt be busted?
balmy parrot
maybe if you combine that with staling guardcrush his bullets could work like how they do now after the install
wicked quarry
Oh that could work
Basically enhanced ammo
Alternatively it could be a gimmick super that lets him control the enemy for a time a la Ginyu lmao
balmy parrot
that'd be cool too, just anything that isn't what it is right now
wicked quarry
Fair
I do hope they balance him, because conceptually I do like Happy Chaos
Id maybe play him if he was fairer
balmy parrot
same
pearl burrow
small furnace
ppl would never be happy a smash player won a prominent anime game's evo finals especially with the best character in the game
balmy parrot
pretty much
pearl burrow
^^
There’s some really cool smash people out there
Leffen does not rank as one of them
paper notch
dreamy mason
Slide heddo
teal pebble
Leffen does not rank as one of them
At least the bot is alright
sharp imp
Twitter
lunar depot
I wonder if Abel is ever gonna reappear in SF.
worthy crystal
@faint ice @mellow palm I’m now a mod in the bbcf server fear me
nova pagoda
lunar depot
BlazBlue?
dreamy mason
pearl burrow
haughty zodiac
https://twitter.com/nebulimes/status/1688525129607745537?s=19
"Imagine winning the biggest fighting game tournament of the year only for more people to cheer for Anji hitting someone in the head with a fish"
velvet wren
“Leffen rolls worst joint in the tournament, asked to leave after finals”
Wonder if he got butthurt about it on Twitter tbh
haughty zodiac
Wonder if he got butthurt about it on Twitter tbh
nah was positive about it, said no one was negative to him
haughty zodiac
lmao zain's reaction https://youtu.be/HCk4txwJ9og?t=17
gaunt cloud
The fact that people were more excited for the chipotle ad
nova pagoda
@faint icehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY-k6jYzXtg
new mommy?
the mods gonna go crazy with this one
lunar depot
Joshu called, she can keep his cut.
dreamy mason
teal pebble
austere garnet
The fuck is the LTG button lmao
wicked quarry
Has to be jump right?
wicked quarry
https://twitter.com/fightstickart/status/1689642930846457858?s=46&t=UA_ppgkxK9e4...
@cosmic forge iirc you liked baba is you
dreamy mason
balmy parrot
Nanai, Street Fighter player and commentator, has passed away of heart failure at 33
rest in peace
balmy parrot
paper notch
hexed forum
https://vxtwitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1690038670613524494
This again tells me that the devs are trying too hard
It's clear they really want this game to succeed
But they're making that fact too apparent
gaunt cloud
They're trying too hard by... pulling the moveset from source material?
hexed forum
Like the first game had the pitfall of
Its main advertisement points were rollback and wavedashing and shit
If one of the selling points is "Squidward has the funny dance"
vapid lake
https://vxtwitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1690038670613524494
https://vxtwitter.com/HoboGuyCool/status/1690238819608522752 @austere garnet
south lantern
balmy parrot
after Season 3 drops for Strive I'm probably playing
Johnny, I-No, Chipp
Johnny first, if I don't like his Strive iteration then I-No, then Chipp as last resort
balmy parrot
nvm, I think it'll just be Gio for me unless they make Sin good
paper notch
Twitter
haughty zodiac
https://vxtwitter.com/HoboGuyCool/status/1690238819608522752 <@4562265777981358...
disappointed at lack of mentioning cursed special move input with number notations
vapid lake
I mean it's a platform fighter
haughty zodiac
I'll spoiler this 'cause I don't know if this is sfw
guilty gear moment
we have baiken i should say
worthy crystal
||https://vxtwitter.com/nyami9/status/1690570657434849280||
Valentine bottom text
balmy parrot
valentine's design is so GOATed
vapid lake
south lantern
So there are possibilities someone modding Strive sfx to touhou game
vapid lake
gaunt cloud
You know
The strive guides still throw me off sometimes
I look at a character that was in Xrd and i go "where's the rest of the moves?"
late frost
The whole "new player accessilbility to Yu-Gi-Oh" discourse got me thinking about the evolution of new player accessibility in fighting games
fighting games are continuing to try to find ways to simplify parts of the game without losing its core appeal
balmy parrot
I've discovered the joy of Chipp
in Accent Core
I will now play him in Strive, Xrd, and Accent Core
until they fix Sin in Strive
lunar depot
So I’m trying out 3rd Strike as Ryu. I keep forgetting I have kick buttons.
haughty zodiac
holy shit gonna play strive again just for johnny
not even a long time player and he's cool af
haughty zodiac
The whole "new player accessilbility to Yu-Gi-Oh" discourse got me thinking abou...
this come up because of rarran?
wicked quarry
So the new patch details are slowly trickling in
And idk wtf Arcsys was smoking
Millia gets randomly nerfed, Gold randomly gets huge buffs, Kys 5h is apparently now 8f (???????)
And wild assault is a guard crush and invuln and steals burst meter on heavies
I.e. Nago and Gols
haughty zodiac
I.e. Nago and Gols
AAAAAWWWWW HELLL YEAH
worthy crystal
Millia gets randomly nerfed, Gold randomly gets huge buffs, Kys 5h is apparently...
Ky f.s doesn’t combo into stun dipper anymore
Every H DP lost invuln, axl normals are entirely reworked
wicked quarry
Kys stun dipper is also apparently 7f now
Idk about Axl, ill have to see them, but idk if I like the idea
Gold was randomly mad buffed ontop of getting a busted wild assault
Charakter is going to be a huge issue
worthy crystal
Kys stun dipper is also apparently 7f now
7f slower not 7f
They made it travel way further
Gio 214K no longer hard knockdowns
worthy crystal
7f slower not 7f
Nvm ky players are fucking liars
wicked quarry
I guess we'll wait for patchnotes
I hope there are gold nerfs we don't know yet though
Or that if he becomes busted he gets gutted
gaunt cloud
Burst gauge regens faster.
Gold burst now gives positive meter.
Positive meter now fills burst gauge.
Burst is full screen.
Gio has a new move that powers up her special moves and can cancel into them.
Nago 6H not cancellable.
I-no has a guard crush move.
Chipp 6k slower startup, combos into 2k.
Potemkin megafist tumbles. (This means FMF longer minus on hit)
Leo heavy DP no longer invulnerable.
Ky Stun Dipper 7 frames.
Bedman? 2s2h frame traps. Also keeps errors post wall break.
May S Dolphin now leaves her closer and in potential grab range.
May's dash is slower
Nago 6H is guard crush.
Ky's F.s and 5H are now faster
Sin's F.s and backdash are faster
Anji's fish slap (the new move) causes a HKD
Zato has a BtL followup where he teleports to Eddie's position
Bedman keeps Error6E after an wallbreak
HC's bullets can be reflected by burst, you can't negative edge his gun, his damage got reduced, and successive steady aim shots now gravity scale harder
Pot's 5P hits crouchers, potemkin buster's recovery got reduced, flick is now faster
haughty zodiac
May S Dolphin now leaves her closer and in potential grab range.
May's dash is s...
no fucking way 6H now guard crushes
oh right just saw can't cancel anymore, kinda cringe
also just to understand if you guard crush then roman cancel you can combo?
balmy parrot
https://vxtwitter.com/009Firework/status/1692505997770658293?t=LaPmxktQdtZKMJPKs...
bruh
this doesn't help Sin at all
balmy parrot
Burst gauge regens faster.
Gold burst now gives positive meter.
Positive meter...
giovanna gets the last new move
but no why are they keeping the very obvious issue of Sin's Still Growing not restoring calories
and the fact that he has no gameplan because you can just mash out of his pressure
worthy crystal
this doesn't help Sin at all
This isn’t comprehensive, there are new system mechanics, etc etc etc
Wait for an actual listed patch notes before we start dooming about how bad characters are going to be
worthy crystal
May S Dolphin now leaves her closer and in potential grab range.
May's dash is s...
May dash is also slower
wicked quarry
@worthy crystal do we know how deflect shield works vs guard crushes?
worthy crystal
Idk lol
pearl burrow
doesn't do daily art anymore, which I respect given the amount of collabs they've got going on
but every new piece is still so freaking good
paper notch
Iirc somewhere along the wqy they got sick
pearl burrow
oh oof, that's also a valid reason
faint ice
Gut Happy chaos, gut Goldlewis, gut Nago, and make Millia good <:nyaruhodo:87305...
I tried to warn the ppl...
paper notch
paper notch
gaunt cloud
vapid lake
https://youtu.be/Ar8DKVmUnrg
gender affirming misogyny combo
gaunt cloud
On another note
Johnny has a thing like asuka where if you press up/down during character selection he gets a beard
wicked quarry
gender affirming misogyny combo
Yami wtf you cant just drop a banger line like that and go away
paper notch
lunar depot
Random idea: a fighting game character who can do bonus damage if they attack to the beat of the BGM. Prolly not very practical, is it?
dreamy mason
dee jay level 2 super:
pearl burrow
Rise ultimate
lunar depot
Noted.
worthy crystal
Rise ultimate
I’ll always be salty that they nerfed rise super so hard
lunar depot
Does Zero Fighter sound like a good fighting game title?
late frost
Tekken 8 Gamescom presentation
Harada and Murray on stage
Tekken 8 getting a single player story experience that focuses on the player instead of the Mishima storyline
alongside the usual Mishima story in its own mode
32 fighters at launch
Dropping a bunch of characters
Getting something similar-looking to SF6's battle hub
January 26, 2024 release
late frost
Mortal Kombat 1 now
late frost
pearl burrow
But no rollback
balmy parrot
But no rollback
wicked quarry
Damn FighterZ getting patchnotes before GGST
austere garnet
Ugh these re designs are soooo good
I love the way general shao is portrayed here feels like a ticking time bomb of chaos with him
gaunt cloud
https://twitter.com/BNEesports/status/1693986384271581204
Watch
Fusions still gonna be top tier
brisk void
AYO, Shujinko?! So glad he's in here, even as a Kameo. ❤️
gaunt cloud
they killed the misoginy combo 
actual cowards
YOU CAN KARA CANCEL F.D.B. NOW
LET'S GO
Slide head: removed guard crush?
huh?
wait, i'm sorry, HUH?
Bedman can now combo into error 6e state from a jab
HC can now cancel at the ready into reload
look
i literally play HC, it's one of my favorite characters, and i dont care if ppl scream at me because he's annoying to face and boring to watch
BUT HE DID NOT NEED THAT
worthy crystal
> Bedman can now combo into error 6e state **from a jab**
He could do that before too
And also bed kind of needs it
Basically I’m either playing gio or Johnny 
gaunt cloud
And also bed kind of needs it
Not saying that bed doesnt deserve it
late frost
Wolf Fang Fist cancels into Dragon Rush now.
unironically kinda spooky
gaunt cloud
Wait
Did
Did they buff everyone
Including the top 5?
What?
It's 1 am and google translate might be just fucking with me
late frost
this is something they usually do
everyone gets buffs
normally stronger characters just get funny buffs while weaker characters get more meaningful buffs
gaunt cloud
Fair
"Vegito and LC21 buffs" wasnt on my bingo chart tho
Excited for the official translations tho
Apparently cell's 2L has invincibility on startup now?
late frost
wym "gave"
gaunt cloud
THEY GAVE MY BOY MIX
late frost
man had some of the best mix in the game already
gaunt cloud
wym "gave"
Holding 2 during the teleport makes him stay in the same position
gaunt cloud
man had some of the best mix in the game already
I mean
He kinda needed an assist for the usual teleport stuff
And had to rely on universal mechanics otherwise
late frost
float teleport mix already let him left-right mix
this does it easier to do a less ambigious left-right, though
gaunt cloud
Btw
Universal change
Characters with either limit break or sparking can now cancel their level 1 into level 3
Yes, this does include base goku
Also, majin 21 got another level 3
Neat
Unblockable move that deals 48%
cosmic forge
Characters with either limit break or sparking can now cancel their level 1 into...
Tien can now unironically do what he did vs Cell
gaunt cloud
cosmic forge
Tri Beam into Tri Beam, get fucked
gaunt cloud
Also
cosmic forge
“Your character is gone”
cosmic forge
Fuck legit think
Tri Beam into Neo Tri Beam, with sparking
Like
That just kills the person
late frost
Videl counter into Level 3 is very funny
gaunt cloud
Vegito has a command grab now
He needed it, trust
Gogega 4 buffs also just read insane
He can bluff kamehameha into superdash AND can do 5L into 4L INTO 4L/2L
Vegito's 2L can now hit both as a low or as an overhead
I want to try out the same stuff arcsys is using for this patch
It hits different
late frost
I think you have to be last character standing, but yes
Most Level 1s can be canceled into Level 3
cosmic forge
cosmic forge
Just an idle thought
I don’t think this character will be good
but
Fat Throw is faster now
cosmic forge
Buu is going to be really annoying every 500 games you see him
gaunt cloud
"we gave up on balancing this game, here's umvc3: anime edition"
gaunt cloud
I'm going to bed
Dopamine rush is probably gonna hit me like a truck tomorrow
Patch is already live, yes?
cosmic forge
Wait what the fuck
Hold on
Question about beams
Is it weird that Tien can now cancel Dodon Ray into super dash
gaunt cloud
Nah
That's universal
You can cancel any beam into SD
Has been since the last patch
Wait
Black's grab is now 25 frames
Also his 2M now hits on roundstart
Funny
late frost
@cosmic forge super budget example of fake crossup 236M
okay then
be in a not very useful format
thanks OBS
late frost
gaunt cloud
Skipper
Look at this
Look at it
What the fuck
THEY MADE EX PERFECT ATTACK A DP
I AM DYING
LITERALLY WTF
I AM FUCKING WHEEZING RN
THIS IS JUST DBFZ RAINBOW EDITION
Ok
Can we officially classify dbfz as a kusoge now?
Certainly feels like one
Ok so
Pretty sure my rank is still like, frieza employee or smth
Since my connection forbids me to play a game online for more than 5 seconds for whatever reason
Do you think that if i just spam ssj4gogeta's 4L on ranked people would just
Fall for it?
cosmic forge
@gaunt cloud can I ask a favour
gaunt cloud
Yes?
cosmic forge
Or @late frost if you’re here too
late frost
for seven bars
cosmic forge
Can you quickly check Telekinesis for me on Tien
late frost
if you it the Level 1 raw (you will not)
cosmic forge
I can’t quite figure out how it changed
gaunt cloud
Skipper will test it
cosmic forge
from the patch notes
late frost
let me see
gaunt cloud
I dont have my pc open rn
late frost
can you post the notes
cosmic forge
You sent them
late frost
I need to have my browser closed while I play the game
late frost
what did they do this time
late frost
ye
cosmic forge
you can now summon them in any order
During Ginyu's level 3, hold any button during the animation to change the Force rotation. Holding L gives you Guldo, M for Recoome, S for Jeice, H for Burter.
So you can Level 3
And then pick who’s next
Ginyu can reset his summon order which is terrifying
late frost
that's actually a nice buff for picking your Level 3 oki
or reseting your order so you can keep track
cosmic forge
HAHAHAHA
cosmic forge
MAJIN BUU BUTTSLAM IS PLUS NOW
late frost
okay so
if you press S again during Telekenesis
you'll cancel out of it without doing the move
basically a feint
cosmic forge
Fuck that’s good
gaunt cloud
Man
I legit do not know what to think of this patch
There are no more major events left, right?
late frost
smh can you not cancel Tien's Level 1 into Level 3
oh you can
just you can't cancel into Chiao sacrifice
gaunt cloud
It feels like they just fully embraced the game being a casual party game now
Like legit
This is smash bros type balancing
cosmic forge
Yeah you can murder Cell but not Chiaotzu
gaunt cloud
Skipper quick
Test if you can dragon rush 21 during the charge time of her new level 3
late frost
you can
gaunt cloud
Huh
BEERUS LEVEL 3 TELEPORTS BEHIND THE OPPONENT
BEERUS LEVEL 3 IS ALSO AIR OK
Ui goku also has a backwards flip now
Lol
gaunt cloud
BEERUS LEVEL 3 TELEPORTS BEHIND THE OPPONENT
Mf really just goes "nothing personal kid" now
Also ngl
Of all characters
Freeze seems to have gotten the least cool stuff
Kinda wanted to see something like, "normal freeza now functions like current golden freeza, what golden freeza actually does now is double your damage and meter gain, also it's permanent"
"Also you can cancel any projectile move into any projective move"
THAT would be funny
pearl burrow
Frieza is still dependent on his Super Saiyan knockoff form, sad
gaunt cloud
Ok i wope up and am testing stuff out
Bro baseku anchor feels like a fucking cheat code lmao
late frost
How much easier is it to DHC into Spirit Bomb?
gaunt cloud
From other characters? It's still mostly the same from what i can see
Also, still not over them giving monke gogeta infinite jabs
That's just comedy
cosmic forge
This is smash bros type balancing
i worked out what this is
this is rainbow edition
late frost
Watching zDamascus' stream as he goes through the patch
vocal wren
Left the official mortal kombat discord server. They are way too toxic. All I said was that I like Kronika and they all attacked me