#Fighting Game Chat

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austere garnet
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Basically

wicked quarry
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Wonder why they removed that input in 6 then

cosmic forge
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Yeah, that’s why it’s called pianoing

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WHAT

wicked quarry
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Dee Jay still has a rhythm game input

cosmic forge
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY REMOVED HHS

austere garnet
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This isn’t even bitching this is by design

wicked quarry
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Oh no HHS is still i nthe game

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The input is changed however

cosmic forge
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TO WHAT

wicked quarry
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Its 214 + Punch

cosmic forge
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I HATE THAT

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THAT’S SO FUCKING DUMB

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DOES OLD INPUT STILL WORK?

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OR DID THEY JUST DECIDE TO RUIN EVERY HONDA PLAYER’S MUSCLE MEMORY FOR FUNSIES

wicked quarry
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As far as I can tell

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It does not

austere garnet
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like I said, Raz likes him lmao

late frost
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I think in V you could mash or do the motion input

cosmic forge
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This is so fucking STUPID man

late frost
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that's how Chun Li's kicks worked, memory serve me right

cosmic forge
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Half the fun of Honda is working out combos that set up for good pianos

wicked quarry
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Apparently so

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Idk why they removed it entirely

cosmic forge
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I don’t wanna play Honda anymore…

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😦

wicked quarry
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At least Gief looks good

cosmic forge
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They’re gonna make SPD like

austere garnet
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@dreamy mason You wanna find out if Honda Piano still works or not for Raz lol?

cosmic forge
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QCF

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…wait.

austere garnet
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you’re the one person I know who has the game, my apologies

cosmic forge
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is lariat still 3 punch

dreamy mason
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for hands?

cosmic forge
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Or is it only QCB

dreamy mason
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only qcb

cosmic forge
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FUUUUUUUUCK.

late frost
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lariat is two punch now

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EX lariat is three punch

cosmic forge
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why though

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I mean sure I get it EX has to be one more but

late frost
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times change

cosmic forge
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You know what I just realised

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You now have to drop charge if you do HHS

late frost
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Raz we can't be the old fuddy-duddies that complain that they don't make fighting games like they used to

wicked quarry
cosmic forge
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Like you can’t maintain charge and do HHS because it’s a motion input now

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Wouldn’t it drop? Either you go full down and lose headbutt or full back and lose butt stomp

late frost
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yeah you'll lose both charges, ultimately

wicked quarry
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Oh

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I guess you get to keep the back charge at the end

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But you do lose the down-charge

late frost
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you can hold the back input after QCB to start building horizontal charge again

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but the moment you do the 2 input, you'll lose horizontal charge

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and when you do 4, you'll lose vertical

cosmic forge
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To be fair I can’t think of a situation off the top of my head where butt stomp after HHS was a very good thing

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But it sucks to lose the option ig

wicked quarry
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Anyway Giefs inputs look mostly the same to me

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Other than non-EX Double Lariat requiring only 2 punches now

cosmic forge
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I can’t fucking believe he kept Tundra Storm

wicked quarry
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No wait, Tundra Storm was changed

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Its 22HK now

austere garnet
cosmic forge
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Like I could count on one hand how many times Tundra Storm was relevant in SFV

austere garnet
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In a game where they took away Green Hand

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Again

cosmic forge
late frost
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He doesn't need green hand anymore
Especially in 6

cosmic forge
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Blue Nocturne, and uh, Nemesis Level 3

austere garnet
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Blue Nocturne

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Defo

austere garnet
wicked quarry
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Yeah the drive system actually gives Gief approaches now

austere garnet
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They probably made Tundra Storm less awful in 6

wicked quarry
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He also has a grab that makes him run up first now

late frost
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Drive Rush is your gap close
He's gotten multiple specials to function as combo enders
And do you really want to give Zangief an advancing invincible move

late frost
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okay Raz

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I played IV too

austere garnet
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Lmao

late frost
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EX Green Hand did too much

austere garnet
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It was funny though

cosmic forge
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I think Zangief should get an invincible wavedash

late frost
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Also his SPDs do so much now

wicked quarry
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Oh EX moves now only use Drive-gauge?

dreamy mason
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green hand + 180 damage spd or no green hand + 340 damage spd

late frost
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You legit only need three to do 1000 damage

wicked quarry
cosmic forge
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Curious, are there any duds so far in SF6

wicked quarry
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... admitively that would be funny

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Duds in what way, characters that suck?

cosmic forge
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Not suck necessarily

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More like, remember when V came out and there were a bunch of characters that felt really nothing to play

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Like, Necalli or FANG or shit where nobody cared

wicked quarry
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I didnt play SFV

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Uhhh

dreamy mason
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every character has spice but they did nerf kim a lot from open beta

wicked quarry
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Too early to say, but I think the only characters that people dont really see are the traditionally unpopular ones

cosmic forge
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So Honda lmao

wicked quarry
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Honda and Blanka

cosmic forge
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Surprised Blanka isn’t getting more play, his trailer made it look like he had some spice

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with the dolls

wicked quarry
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Oh he probably does but

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Its blanka

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His design is not exactly broadly appealing

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Not helped by new character bias

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Cammy isnt seeing as much play as usual rn either

cosmic forge
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oh no how tragic

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Hey wait

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Are any of the Shadaloo guys in

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I get Bison being absent but

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Sagat, Vega, Balrog?

dreamy mason
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none confirmed yet

cosmic forge
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Surprising

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Maybe they’re trying to work out a way to not have Vega be complete ass

wicked quarry
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Shadaloo is officially destroyed at this moment in time so

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They might be brought back later

cosmic forge
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No I get that

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But like

wicked quarry
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But rn there is a new villainous faction

cosmic forge
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Only Bison is gone

late frost
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Can't wait for a Bison function that's a hot woman

cosmic forge
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I’m lowkey let down by a lack of SF3 characters

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Wasn’t that the whole point

wicked quarry
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Speaking of Honda, randomly tuned into Brian_Fs stream and he is up against Honda

cosmic forge
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We need Seth

late frost
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We are post SF3, finally

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They're kinda shoo-ins for DLC

cosmic forge
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Yeah but this is bothering me

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Like where’s Necro at

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Or Makoto

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Dudley

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Where are the SF3 guys, if this is finally their time period

wicked quarry
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Yeah its odd that, for the first actual sequel post SF3

cosmic forge
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You get what I mean

wicked quarry
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SF6 has fewer of them than SFV

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I assume well get them with DLC, at least Makoto (she is a shoe-in) but

cosmic forge
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Fuck, where’s Elena

wicked quarry
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Yeah its weird

dreamy mason
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i wouldn't mind elena without the healing

wicked quarry
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I know that Spooks would really like Q back

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(Im inclined to agree, Q would be cool)

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But at the same time I love the newcomers

late frost
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I really enjoyed G in SFV

cosmic forge
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The other thing is, according to SFV, Elena’s been chatting with G

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Which is a weird as fuck storyline and I wanna see it

wicked quarry
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The only one Im eh on

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Is the wind girl

cosmic forge
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T Hawk’s kid?

late frost
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I want Rufus back

wicked quarry
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Oh shes T Hawks kid?

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Yeah her then

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Just do not care for her kit or aesthetic

austere garnet
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Admittedly same

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That is a fucking child

wicked quarry
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Also, damn, looks like JP is just an actual Zoner

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Was hoping for more setplay

austere garnet
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But also I have made the same complaints Raz

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They sure are still scared of SF3

wicked quarry
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Again, its weird that SFV had more SF3 characters despite being a prequel

cosmic forge
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I mean

wicked quarry
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Well, set before it timeline-wise

cosmic forge
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4 had more

wicked quarry
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... wait

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Does SF6 have any

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I just realised, Dee Jay is SF2 not 3

cosmic forge
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Alex is in 6 right?

austere garnet
austere garnet
late frost
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Dlc ye

cosmic forge
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What

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Lmaoooooooo

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You fucking kidding Capcom?

late frost
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Oh 6

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Ye he's not in 6 yet

austere garnet
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No Poison either

cosmic forge
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Poison was SF4

austere garnet
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5 too.

late frost
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Abigail gets a reference, I think

austere garnet
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She was a fucking powerhouse in 5 actually.

cosmic forge
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Yeah but I’m talking debuts

wicked quarry
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Oh and as for DLC

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.... 2 SFV characters, an SF4 character and Akuma are confirmed

austere garnet
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Yeah no 3 characters in 6 at all atm. Barely any Alpha characters either.

wicked quarry
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They really are scared of SF3

austere garnet
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Mostly 2, 4, 5 & newcomers

wicked quarry
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Which, again

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Weird given that this is the first game canonically after SF3

cosmic forge
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You know who I’d love to see from 3

austere garnet
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So the thing is right

3 nearly killed Capcom

… over two decades ago.

wicked quarry
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... which also means we might not get G closure

austere garnet
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And they have been weirdly scared to like

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Actually do anything with it since

cosmic forge
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Honestly
And don’t hate me here
Hugo

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I miss Hugo

austere garnet
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I prefer Hugo to Zief as a big grappler man so I mean

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Yeah fair lmao

cosmic forge
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Now they can be distinct

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Gief has more showmanship now

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Hugo can be more like gritty idk

austere garnet
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So they had an excuse to have them

cosmic forge
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It’s funny how this game has like so much of the aesthetic of 3 with the street vibes and hip-hop

austere garnet
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Alex in 5 had that particularly bad

cosmic forge
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and none of the characters

austere garnet
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His plot was dead fucking ass just filler

cosmic forge
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Like it was straight up his coming out event idk

austere garnet
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Just as a smidge of setup

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Like

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I know not everyone likes Sakura’s arc

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But god they sure have consistently written new plots and character shit for a character from Alpha

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Meanwhile Remy died in an alleyway somewhere ifg

cosmic forge
austere garnet
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3’s cast all rank high as shit too, mostly.

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Alex is top 5 males, Q has on and off been top 3

cosmic forge
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You know who I would love to see return

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Rose

austere garnet
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Makoto is generally top 5 to top 10 females

austere garnet
cosmic forge
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Rose was actually really fun in V

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Like shockingly fun

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I wanna see her again

austere garnet
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I hated that she basically got Alpha combos but otherwise yeah

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Or not Alpha Combos fuck uh what was it

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Yun’s thing

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That I cannot fucking spell

cosmic forge
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Honestly that last wave of DLC in V was like

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so fun

austere garnet
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Hella yeah

cosmic forge
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Dan, Oro, and Rose all turned out incredible

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Luke was okay too ig

austere garnet
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I’m kinda glad to see they’re bringing back Ed too

cosmic forge
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Also uh

austere garnet
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I may be like the only person who is but

cosmic forge
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Akira?

austere garnet
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His gameplay was fun

wicked quarry
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What ever happened to Gill in the III storyline anyway

cosmic forge
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Rival Schools girl

austere garnet
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Akira yeah

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They made air raves

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Just for her

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It made me so goddamn happy

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She also made some Japan only dating sims canon so

dreamy mason
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damn how long has brian been fighting this honda

wicked quarry
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On a sidenote, I love how disrespectful JPs victory screen is

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Wait wtf

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How did Brian find another Honda on ladder

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@cosmic forge did sumo headbutt go through projectiles before?

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Because it seems to do that now

dreamy mason
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could be armored

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this is for sfv ex headbutt

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itazan getting matched up with players from the states lol

late frost
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I think headbutt was projectile invuln before.

pearl burrow
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Dotodoya played exclusively E Honda in his first post-launch SF6 video, but afaik he's never been a Street Fighter player- he's not bad, but he's exceptional

faint ice
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6 Honda has been the most interesting the character has looked imo

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And his kit is pretty similar

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Also I believe Aki (dlc) has some sort of link to fang

paper notch
south lantern
lunar depot
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Cute.

wicked quarry
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Apparently every SFV character had those

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I love Dhalsim being a longcat

dreamy mason
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cute

paper notch
austere garnet
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Lucia being a cop being reflected by her cat riding a Roomba is fucking 10/10

wicked quarry
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Im fond of Akira, Balrog and Rashidooooo

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His hat being a plastic bag that has wind with the w being the :3 face is cute

dreamy mason
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ryu fridge

dreamy mason
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wow the credits even has what my character was wearing at that moment in time

dreamy mason
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how do i instant divekick on p2 side for leverless o-o

wicked quarry
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Instant divekick?

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What character and input?

dreamy mason
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cammy, it's qcb+K while jumping forward

wicked quarry
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Ah

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Thats an awkward input to TK

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You should be able to go 2149+K or something like that

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But it might be an annoying timing

dreamy mason
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i figured out a way but it's different from doing it p1 side

wicked quarry
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That ... is odd

dreamy mason
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i piano from right to left on the directional buttons for p1

wicked quarry
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There shouldnt be a side difference

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Ah

dreamy mason
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but for p2 i input qcb first, then forward jump+K

wicked quarry
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That motion is less accessible on p2, even though its technically the same motion

dreamy mason
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yeah

lunar depot
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I’m getting the snot beaten out of me by Heihachi.

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Any tips?

wicked quarry
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Yeah Im not sure how to do that then, other than trying to see if you can find out a way to piano it on p2

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Youre using something like a hitbox I assume?

dreamy mason
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yeah same layout as hitbox

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just wondering if there's a different way to go about this before i commit this to muscle memory

lunar depot
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I’m playing Arcade Mode on Tekken 1.

wicked quarry
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Hold on lemme check smthg len

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If her cannon strike still has a minimum height

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Hm, cant find anything

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Im guessing youre using your left thumb for the jump then?

dreamy mason
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yep left thumb for jump

wicked quarry
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Yeah pianoing isnt gonna work then

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Well literally pianoing is, thats just a basic chord, but shhh

dreamy mason
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unrelated but i gave my avatar spd and they never see it coming

lunar depot
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Sorry for interrupting the convo.

gaunt cloud
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Man

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The fact that deejay's lights essentially serve to create mind games is so cool

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Really like how he plays

lunar depot
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I beat Tekken again. And I got 1st place.

faint ice
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Yeah the feints are cool

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Feint kicks feels the best because it just becomes a jump that you can attack with after

cosmic forge
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they should make tekken
but godzilla

dreamy mason
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played some wifi warrior yesterday, as good as sf6 netcode is, it can't save 2 bar wifi

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will play my friend from tokyo later this week to see how that goes

late frost
wicked quarry
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Oh my god there is a wild easter egg with E. Honda in the new World Tour

wicked quarry
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Also speaking of Honda

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I was off on my evaluation, the character is apparently reasonably popular

faint ice
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Yeah because he's crazy

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They gave him the juice for 6

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Headbutt is so hard to punish beyond perfect parry

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If you drive impact headbutt, he recovers in time from the headbutt to drive impact you in reaction

wicked quarry
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@austere garnet yknow its funny, if I were to get SF6 now, Id probably play the best character in a fighting game for the first time ever

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... but I also dont know if I wanna get the game yet because I expect theyll be nerfed soon enough

austere garnet
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Lmao

wicked quarry
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Like JP is just cracked

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For some reason they gave the character with zoning and setplay tools also a frame 1 counter thats active for 20 frames and beats every attack, grab and command grab

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As well as good normals, good jumpins and crazy supers

dreamy mason
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avatar battles and cinematic supers is a great combination

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||yes that's dante||

south lantern
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Owo

faint ice
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I'm unsure about JP being the best character

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Yeah his reversal beats everything but it's still a reversal

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He's clearly good but you still have to beat the all rounders in a scramble beyond full screen fireballs

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Like Juri, Ken, Deejay

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But idk who I would even call the best character tbh

pearl burrow
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It's crazy how little respect people have for each other these days. Seems like there is just no good person around anymore and life is just a stale repeat of work, eat, sleep while we trick ourselfs into thinking that love could fill the void (i was drive impacted in the corner)

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dreamy mason
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problemx: what do you think of cammy so far
mago: very cute character
lol

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juri's forward dash goes mad far

dreamy mason
pearl burrow
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I lack critical information for this one

wicked quarry
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Btw have yall seen Zangiefs perfect win animation?

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Its hilarious

gaunt cloud
pearl burrow
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Ohh, he's preemptively hitting the grab button lol

wicked quarry
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Not quite

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Im pretty sure thats modern zangief

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Which is to say

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Zangief using the control scheme that gives you 1 button command grabs

pearl burrow
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Oh ew

wicked quarry
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Its not good fwiw

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Its just annoying

dreamy mason
gaunt cloud
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Oh yea right modern controls

wicked quarry
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Lemme check smthg real quick

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Ok so, stylish tager doesnt have the standard tager buster as a one-button special

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But does have emerald tager buster (i.e. the super command grab) as a one-button special

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And he does have wedge catapult as a one-button special (Another command grab)

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So this kinda stuff existed before

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Its just not good enough to see play

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... also I think I might toy around with switching to keyboard instead of pad

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Like holy shit this feels so much more precise

faint ice
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I don't think modern is equivalent to stylish modes of the past

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someone top 8ing something with modern could potentially be a reality imo

wicked quarry
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I mean

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I literally dont see what the difference is

gaunt cloud
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If you run modern controls you run the risk of getting a crab thrown at you

wicked quarry
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Also BBCF has had people top with stylish every once in a while

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Kogotan iirc sometimes played on stylish for fun

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The only concern I have with keyboard is that Im not sure how ergonomic it is

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Ive got a cheap as hell rubbish keyboard

pearl burrow
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Instead of 236 light punch or 623 heavy kick, modern controls are 6punch and 4kick

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Or sorry, 6-light and 4-heavy

wicked quarry
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Yeah something like that

faint ice
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I googled to double check

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but I'm seeing bb stylish locks you into x strings

pearl burrow
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You still have quarter circles in Modern mode, but everything is mapped differently

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Ngl I’ve been using it while I’m still playing in the demo, and it’s definitely easier for my Fighterz/Melty-addled brain than the old triple punch and kick buttons

wicked quarry
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That was in BBCP I believe

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In BBCF you should just have normal attacks for the most part

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Man I genuinely am wondering if keyboard is just the way to go

faint ice
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hitbox enjoyer in the making

wicked quarry
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Nah hitboxes cost too much

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Like I cant find any under 200€

faint ice
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just diy a pizza box

wicked quarry
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I suck with hardware

dreamy mason
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r/fightsticks and their discord can help too

wicked quarry
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Im german, the shipping alone is gonna cost a lot

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And I doubt there are a lot of people making leverless sticks in germany

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Maybe UK but

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... yeah

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Plus idk

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Keyboard seems fine to me

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Just need to figure out a layout I like

dreamy mason
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i def saw some vendors charging euros while i was browsing but i didn't note them

wicked quarry
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Either have the numpad for the attacks

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Or have it be like, idk

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ijokpl

shrewd furnace
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Don’t worry, the hardware portion of it is super easy if you get a kit, they walk you through everything

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As for hitbox on keyboard, I have:

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Movement:
F : right
E: down
W: left
Space: up

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Buttons:
UIO
JKL

late frost
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I have made the mistake of watching too much SF6

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I want to purchase it

faint ice
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You ready to start looking photogenic?

late frost
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unfortunately my computer cannot handle it

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my "O" key just came off

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had to snap it back on

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maybe I'll get a new rig by end of year

faint ice
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ah fair enough

late frost
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I don't know if any potato PC mods would be enough

wicked quarry
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Damn, all in the 200+€ range

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Im too casual to spend that much on a stick

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Played some BBCF with a friend today using keyboard

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Definitely a big shift, but I can see myself sticking with it

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I actually got a combo I never could do on pad a couple times

dreamy mason
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i suppose the cheaper leverless controllers would be the aliexpress ones

wicked quarry
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I think Ill just keyboard for now

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See if I cant actually get a hang of it

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Still not 100% on the layout

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Also needing a specific button for Overdrive/burst sucks

dreamy mason
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forsenOkay
i used keyboard for a while but socd shortcuts made me want to get a leverless

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and the shorter actuation distance is nice

wicked quarry
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Actuation distance?

dreamy mason
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like how far you need to press down the key to send the input

wicked quarry
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Ah

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The hard part is definitely relearning inputs

cosmic forge
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I never asked

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How are the shotos in SF6

wicked quarry
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They seem fine

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Btw Honda is apparently pretty good in this game

cosmic forge
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what’s the point if no pianos

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😦

dreamy mason
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ken is top tier

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twitch rivals stream

cosmic forge
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Is Kyle Hebert still Ryu? It doesn’t fully sound like him.

wicked quarry
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Aye

paper notch
dreamy mason
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idom is so good jeez

faint ice
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Luke is pretty solid too, not as popular as Ken though

wicked quarry
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Btw @cosmic forge since you were curious about character placements

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Early tier list

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So looks like Ken is quite good

wicked quarry
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Btw how forgiving are SF6s inputs?

dreamy mason
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slightly tighter cancel timings than sfv, double qcf inputs needs one diagonal out of the two so the socd shortcut doesnt work

wicked quarry
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Compared to Strive?

dreamy mason
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idk about strive

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does that game have links or is it all cancels

wicked quarry
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I have no idea what the difference is lmao

late frost
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a link is when you have to wait for a move to finish completely before you do the next one
a cancel is when you "cancel" a move before it finishes completely to do the next one

wicked quarry
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Mostly cancels I think

dreamy mason
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so strive should be easier

wicked quarry
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Ah, unfortunate

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Im trying to do a basic combo on keyboard in BB and its quite unforgiving compared to Strive

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Strive seems to be my limit

dreamy mason
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i dont think the bnbs in sf6 are that bad at all tho, the buffer window is generous like sfv

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it only gets difficult in shit like this

wicked quarry
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Oh wow, keyboard brougt back an issue I havent had in ages

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Right side being harder than left side

gaunt cloud
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SF beginners on twitter when a character does big damage off the opponent whiffing a dp in the corner while having full meter and rage drive bar

cosmic forge
wicked quarry
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From what I understand

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System mechanics simply screw over his gameplan

late frost
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"Stay over there" is a lot harder to pull off in modern games

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People don't enjoy that gameplay pattern

austere garnet
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Guile getting modernized out of that has been a slow weird thing

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As he can absolutely still do that but he doesn’t have to

dreamy mason
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meanwhile jp:

pearl burrow
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JP's moves push you across the screen sometimes lol

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...While Marisa pushes you across the stage

faint ice
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Strive was designed to have super forgiving cancels

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idk if you randomly own sfv from ps plus or a random bundle u can see it a little there

lunar depot
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Would you guys want to see Fei Long added to SF6?

faint ice
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EU Servers are bricked when I get online

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Everyone is just doing avatar battle in hub instead

wicked quarry
late frost
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Mortal Kombat 1 about to show gameplay footage at Summer Games Fest

shrewd furnace
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Hopefully they show assists and hopefully it’s like idol showdown and not skullgirls

late frost
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Mortal Kombat 1 releasing September 19

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Looks like each assist character has multiple assists

cosmic forge
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Guys!!

faint ice
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Glhf

austere garnet
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^

pearl burrow
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💪💪✨👍👍🏳️‍🌈

cosmic forge
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why the rainbow flag though

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Also check out this fucking sick T-shirt

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Even has a Belmont on it

dreamy mason
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Cammy combo trials are destroying me

late frost
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July 21

faint ice
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They also announce Claudio for 8 in it

late frost
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looks like it's first come, first serve

faint ice
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I actually cared about getting into the sf6 closed betas and missed twice

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not even gonna try for T8

late frost
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huh

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apparently they made changes to the Heat system for T8

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still going to be in heat while playing Tekken 8 tho

cosmic forge
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An hour and a half until I drown in pools!

cosmic forge
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Here btw

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This is the major I’m going to

late frost
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Raz on stream let's go?

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nah do what you're comfortable with

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if you don't wanna be on stream, don't be on stream

cosmic forge
lunar depot
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I’ll quickly drop a question: would you guys want Bob in Tekken 8?

late frost
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he's a mainstay

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I'd be surprised if he's not in

lunar depot
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I wonder if they’ll give him the ability to shift between fat mode and thin mode.

cosmic forge
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I took a game!

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I’m out

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But I took one game!

wicked quarry
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Nice!

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Thats hnestly further than Id get

lunar depot
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What does that mean?

cosmic forge
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So, 1-4 was my ultimate record

late frost
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There’s a brand new mechanic called “upblock” where you can like shift your block upwards on jump ins and FULL COMBO PUNISH them on block.

Mindgame is they can empty jump throw you or low you as there is recovery for going for it.

Flawless block is back but ONLY negates chip.

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wicked quarry
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Whats upblock

cosmic forge
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I’m watching the first SF6 major in Australia

wicked quarry
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Any D O S U K O I yet?

cosmic forge
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Nope

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Ken vs Gief

cosmic forge
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Oh hey, Samsho tourney soon!

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Yo. This guy is based

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Morrigan, Vergil, Doom, whatever.
VIEWTIFUL JOE, FRANK WEST, ROCKET RACCOON? BASED

wicked quarry
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Slooow~

cosmic forge
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Dude won with Level 2 Frank

paper notch
cosmic forge
paper notch
austere garnet
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That first Chun-Li design is straight fire and I’m mad it wasn’t used

wicked quarry
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Same

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I also like the Cammy design with the hat

austere garnet
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Nearly gave Cammy Guile’s outfit, which is interesting

wicked quarry
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Like the cammy design thats just a suit and a hat is kinda fun

paper notch
dreamy mason
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i gotta start doing hcf isntead of qcf for spiral arrow because of this

cosmic forge
faint ice
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I've just heard the sf6 input buffer just holds inputs super long

late frost
balmy parrot
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this might be a hot take but my favorite Cammy design is, genuinely, the one from Fortnite

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face aside I like how they made her design safe for work

wicked quarry
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Admitively the Leotard looks silly in this SFW version lmao

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I like her SF6 design, its actually nice

balmy parrot
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it's cool but it doesn't have her beret

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which is why I like Cammy

dreamy mason
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Pick outfit 2 PoyoyoThumbsUp

gaunt cloud
wicked quarry
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I assume only works if youre buffering

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Otherwise youd jump

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Or its a TK DP

balmy parrot
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it's almost been 25 years since Third Strike and we still have not topped Joudan Sokutogeri as the coolest fighting game move

wicked quarry
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Navy Crusher?

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Or chant

balmy parrot
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which one's that one?

wicked quarry
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Navy Crusher is

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Nines Giant Fist

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And Chant is Asukas magic

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Im also fond of Marisas brutal command grab

gaunt cloud
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Strive's heavenly pot buster

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Just saying

balmy parrot
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eh

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trying a bit too hard

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Joudan Sokutogeri is simple, fluid, and powerful

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and conveys all three aspects of animation with brilliant use of keyposes and timing

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it did it so good that every street fighter after managed to mess it up

wicked quarry
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Even if we go by relatively simple metrics, Id still give it to Marisas command grab

balmy parrot
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it looks nice but the mule kick has everything

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and it's done in 2d

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which inherently makes it more impressive

wicked quarry
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Eh, as much as I like 2d games

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I think SF6 is still the best looking SF to date

balmy parrot
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sorry but nah Third Strike is the GOAT

cosmic forge
wicked quarry
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Marisa is great

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Not a character Im likely to play

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But conceptually a top 3 newcomer for me

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Only one Id put above her is JP because JP is just a great villain

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Also give us the wedding dress costume nyaruhodo

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Speaking of alt costumes I want

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Slight spoiler for Zangiefs bond in SF6

dreamy mason
wicked quarry
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Honestly if they release this alt costume theres suddenly gonna be a lot of Zangief simps

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@austere garnet what do you think of this Zangief design nyaruhodo

austere garnet
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Genuinely way better than his regular design tbh

wicked quarry
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Idk, SF6s 'Gief has grown on me

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Turns out he just needed some pants

wicked quarry
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||But yes suit Gief is kinda hot ngl||

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||I also like that they confirm that reading is one of his favourite things to do, and that he isnt just some dumb musclebrain||

gaunt cloud
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||contrary to what sfv's story mode wanted you to believe||

cosmic forge
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@balmy parrot @late frost just saw the sickest fucking recovery play ever

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JDizzle, the Young Link, just threw Boomerang while offstage to recover against DMO, a Joker who had Arsene

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DMO tried to counter the up b but reflected the boomerang instead

late frost
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did JDizzle get hit with the boomerang

cosmic forge
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Watch this sick shit

cosmic forge
paper notch
dreamy mason
mellow palm
late frost
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Cross-platform play for THE KING OF FIGHTERS XV goes live on June 20th. The wait is finally over! Plus, the arrival of GOENITZ as free DLC!

対戦格闘ゲーム『THE KING OF FIGHTERS XV』、6月20日に待望のクロスプラットフォーム機能を実装!さらにDLCキャラクター「ゲーニッツ」を無料配信!

https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/
© SNK CORPORATION ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

#SNK #KOF #KOF15

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@austere garnet

austere garnet
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Continuing the run of free boss characters

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He looks a little odd in 3D, but good

wicked quarry
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His fighting style looks like Ioris

austere garnet
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Yes

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Much more regal though

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He is one of the Kings of Orochi lmao

wicked quarry
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Oh

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What does Orochi have to do with Ioris fighting style

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I forgor

austere garnet
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He has Orochi blood in him

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It’s what causes him to go sicko mode

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And also let’s him do the stuff with the purple fire

wicked quarry
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I see

austere garnet
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He was canonically de-powered for a bit

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During the run where Ash was being an overpowered shithead

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It was interesting to see his moveset modified to account for a lack of powers

wicked quarry
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Ah

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Your favourite KoF era nyaruhodo

austere garnet
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Clearly

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It is far from a hot take to say that was a bad idea tbqh

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It was so unpopular they had to release a non-canon DLC version that had his powers properly

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That was so broken it snapped the game in two iirc

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I don’t hate it in theory, it was just bad in practice

dreamy mason
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👑第1回 ストリートファイター6👑
ドライブラッシュ王 (2023.06.13 記録)

DJのラッシュの速度があまりに速すぎるので、各キャラのラッシュ速度と距離について調べてみました。

ルークを1 として比較しています

間違えてたらすまそ

#SF6

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faint ice
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I have 0 doubt deejay's drive rush is gonna get nerfed at some point

late frost
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also

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because SNK doesn't put important information in their trailers

paper notch
dreamy mason
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my hands hurt

paper notch
pearl burrow
dreamy mason
pearl burrow
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Give your fingers a break, they've earned it

dreamy mason
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just played against my friend, he got the full combo: modern zangief on wifi in japan

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it was surprisingly playable with no lag

paper notch
lunar depot
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So to do a D-pad DP, I heard I can place my thumb on the lower half of the directional controller.

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I press right with the upper half of my thumb, then down with the lower half, then down-right with the whole thumb. Then I press a punch button at the end.

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Is this right?

austere garnet
pearl burrow
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LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

wicked quarry
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Good luck

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I've heard it doesn't run well on the deck

pearl burrow
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I’m definitely gonna be adjusting the settings, even the beta got scratchy at times with full power

faint ice
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It's time to be pretty photogenic

dreamy mason
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well are you making an abomination or a waifu

pearl burrow
lunar depot
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Nice.

pearl burrow
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Took inspiration from Cyberpunk Edgerunners

austere garnet
south lantern
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Owo

paper notch
paper notch
south lantern
lunar depot
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Is there a competitive thing for Super Street Fighter: The New Challengers? Or am I the one guy who plays it?

austere garnet
wicked quarry
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Damn

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Its the cool S

hexed forum
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What's the tournament set where the player cams showed the players being the most physically active

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BOBC5 Melee Grand Finals got me thinking that

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Smash Melee*

lunar depot
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One time someone got mad at me for calling Cassie Cage Sonya Blade. It was my fault for trying to show off a meager knowledge of MK, but it doesn’t make it hurt any less.

cosmic forge
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Is Gohan any fun in FighterZ

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Adult Gohan

wicked quarry
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If you can play him, yeah

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He's a fairly difficult character since he got reverse beat

hexed forum
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I gotta pick up FighterZ again

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Did they implement rollback yet

faint ice
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what do you think 🫣

hexed forum
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Uh

#

Uh

late frost
# cosmic forge Adult Gohan

Character is best known as a lab time sink
But as far as actually playing the game, his neutral takes good fundamentals since he lacks unique neutral tools
But his pressure with a few level ups is wack

cosmic forge
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Hey, FighterZ question

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I always heard Yamcha was good

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Why is he not anymore?

wicked quarry
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Iirc a few key aspects of his kit got nerfed

late frost
# cosmic forge Why is he not anymore?

So, back at the start of DBFZ's life, Yamcha had a few key things going for him.

  • one of the best assists in the game
  • extremely powerful pressure tools
  • arguably the best lariat in the game
  • one of the best post-Level 3 oki
  • good enough damage
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As the game has developed and gotten DLC, though, his strengths have become less unique.

  • After everyone had three assists to choose from, basically everyone had at least one good assist, and many characters had multiple viable options. There were now many more characters you could pick if you wanted an assist like Yamcha's, but wanted a better character than Yamcha.
  • Other charcters have strong pressure tools, at least on par with Yamcha's.
  • Yamcha's lariat was nerfed, and he's far from the only character with a good neutral skip/long range punish now.
  • Other characters have strong post-Level 3 Oki, and the meta has shifted away from that being highly relevant.
  • Yamcha's damage, especially for his meter expenditure, became less relevant as everyone's combos improved.
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Furthermore, Yamcha has some clearly defined weakness in very difficult neutral and poor DHC damage. Other characters simply didn't have those weaknesses while still having many of the strengths Yamcha had.

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Yamcha hasn't been routinely nerfed, but one of his biggest strengths was nerfed, and the buffs he got weren't enough to keep up with the game's power creep. Other characters just did his role better.

dreamy mason
#

CEO is this weekend :O

haughty zodiac
#

anyone got a summary of sf6 character playstyles?

balmy parrot
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do you want a video format or

haughty zodiac
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sure though one video i watched was mostly talking about mechanics to very indepth level but didn't really say what the playstyle was and more absolute specifics like some stuff people plus on block or whatever

dreamy mason
haughty zodiac
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have to say really like the look of dee jay

faint ice
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I've been playing dee jay atm

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He's super fun

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he's pretty equipped for any scenario

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super fast drive rush, he's got bombos but if u just wanna hit hard you can just confirm into upper

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His moves have feints which can bait your opp

haughty zodiac
faint ice
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Ehhh

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Nago's archetype is pretty unique

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Like Marisa has the hard hitting part

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she doesn't do the infinite special cancel however

haughty zodiac
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part of why i liked nago (aside from visuals) is having the patient calculating far gameplay and going hyper aggressive between when it suits

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more so looking for that

faint ice
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hmm there isn't really a "time limit" character like nago's don't spill your blood

haughty zodiac
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oh i don't mean that

faint ice
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As for aggresive I think blanka also does it well

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kimberly kinda waits out neutral before jumping in too I suppose

haughty zodiac
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isn't he purely aggressive?

gaunt cloud
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Blanka now has a projectile

haughty zodiac
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is dee jay rather fitting for what i'm looking for?

gaunt cloud
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So his gameplan kinda has changed a bit

dreamy mason
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zone them out for half the round and go in for a mix when they least expect it

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jp does this a lot

haughty zodiac
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hmm might also give him a go, i will say with nago he essentially just goes all over the place

faint ice
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while jp has a teleport it's not exactly fukyo, you know what I mean?

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but you might like a zoner yeah

haughty zodiac
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i heard someone call dee jay a zoner as well which seemed odd tbh?

faint ice
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he's just not lmao

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He has a projectile and that's nice but dee jay goes in

haughty zodiac
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i will say i don't really like dhalsim both in aesthetic and also gameplan

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he basically just looks slow but tricky

gaunt cloud
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Dhalsim is more similiar to Axl

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Long ranged but commital

haughty zodiac
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yeah not really just looking at keep it there the entire time sort of thing

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like nago can get stupid long normals but will often go aggressive on your ass off any

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tbf i'm not looking for similar range because his range is fucking nutty for his design but yeah not looking for just constant going in but rather keeping it methodical and going in when it suits

faint ice
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you could like dee jay yeah but I just wouldn't compare him to nago really, you can fake out in neutral before rushing in etc

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funny thing is, the things you like about nago are not how I would personally describe nago

haughty zodiac
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yeah i should say not directly comparing but rather like having a methodical gameplan where you go in when it suits

haughty zodiac
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CH > 623HH > 214H > 623HH > 214H > 623HH >214H profit 🐒

faint ice
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Yeah, I'd describe him as a ball of death, he's pretty unique that he gets to be a teleporting ball who's normals get bigger, but he has a mechanic that gives him a time limit etc big risk big reward (supposedly response )

haughty zodiac
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also same with manon

faint ice
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JP's a definition zoner
projectiles for all ranges including full screen
has a projectile command grab
like len said earlier he does have a teleport (think testament)
he can combo into super from full screen

haughty zodiac
#

how does he and dhalsim differ?

faint ice
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dhalsim's a closer parallel to axl (large normals rather than projectiles)
he does ofc have fireballs but dhalsim's unique with both teleport and hover
he can make his fireballs stay on screen/bounce

haughty zodiac
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there's not really a good strive comparison for jp then?

faint ice
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testament is the closest tbh

haughty zodiac
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ahh right ok

faint ice
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Manon is the lightweight grappler that isn't big boy zangief/potemkin
she not only has her signature command grab but hit grabs
she has a medal system where those grabs increase the medal count which make the subsequent grab stronger
this carries over rounds with her max at 5 medal grabs for like 35% damage

haughty zodiac
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damn

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also what's difference between lightweight and other grapplers?

faint ice
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you don't know sfv well right?

haughty zodiac
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i played for like a day

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also i see juri is the sol of sf6 lmao

faint ice
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obviously street isn't an airdasher
but manon doesn't have the slow walkspeed
she can usually get a special off landing a normal which is a privilege zangief doesn't get outside real close ranges
just generally faster while gief has his spd damage immediately and has more health

faint ice
haughty zodiac
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juri prob won't really suit me?

faint ice
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juri basically fishes for mediums in neutral to cancel into drive rush

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but yeah she does everything well

haughty zodiac
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prob gonna give dee jay, juri, manon and jp a try thanks

faint ice
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no worries, u might even be surprised which member of the cast u like the most

haughty zodiac
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yeah strive i only ever stuck to nago

faint ice
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I probably like deejay/jamie/luke the most atm

haughty zodiac
faint ice
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no

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characters are individual ranks

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you have to do placements again if you switch character

haughty zodiac
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floor system in strive made me not want to play other characters

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@faint ice btw what's the difference between the two control modes?

faint ice
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classic is traditional fighting game inputs
modern is new scheme which allows specials to be direction + buttons with a 20% damage penalty
it's also a 4 button control scheme as opposed to the classic 6 so some characters lose some normals
in modern you can input a special normally for full damage - e.g. there's no modern input for lily's wind stock so u charge it normally

haughty zodiac
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ok won't touch modern then

paper notch
austere garnet
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Pfffft

paper notch
vapid lake
wicked quarry
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||"Count one thousand sheep" is so good||

austere garnet
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I saw this on twitter the other day

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It's great

paper notch
austere garnet
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Briaaaaaan

paper notch
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Love this sajam guy

wicked quarry
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I dont get how people would confuse those two

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I have prosopagnosia and I can still distinguish them

dreamy mason
balmy parrot
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how would you guys feel about Snake getting into Tekken?

austere garnet
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Would hella have to be Solid Snake

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And would need to be voiced by David Hayter

balmy parrot
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David Hayter will be Solid Snake until he dies

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I genuinely don't think there'll be a Snake iteration without him tbh

wicked quarry
#

Does Tekken have characters using weapons?

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Oh wait duh Noctis

balmy parrot
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uhhh

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did you forget Snake is also in Smash

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he can CQC with no weapons perfectly fine

wicked quarry
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He uses a rocket launcher, grenades and landmines in Smash

balmy parrot
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those are his special moves

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he can totally just rock a knife and do some CQC for his moveset

wicked quarry
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Sure but I think you want Snake to use weaponry in any fighting game you put him in

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It doesnt feel right otherwise

balmy parrot
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I mean, honestly?

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he could use grenades and maybe landmines

wicked quarry
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Yeah as I said, I forgot that characters have weapons in this game

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Noctis has his vorpal sword

balmy parrot
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as long as it's not a gun

late frost
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After that incident, I don't know if they'll ever put Snake in Tekken.

dreamy mason
cosmic forge
balmy parrot
#

?

cosmic forge
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Kojima has famously repeatedly lobbied to get David Hayter replaced with more "Hollywood" actors

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It's why even the real Big Boss in MGS5 isn't voiced by him

balmy parrot
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well, Kojima isn't Konami anymore

dreamy mason
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this entire thread is just cursed

pearl burrow
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Looking at that made my fingers pulse with phantom pain

haughty zodiac
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so i was going to watch LTG SF6 rage comps... but then i realise he plays fucking boring

cosmic forge
#

Ayoooooo Sam Sho V

lunar depot
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Man, trying to play Street Fighter on a PC emu is hard.

haughty zodiac
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out of this bunch who are the easier ones to play (not lily heard she's ez af already)? tier list was me rating my interest in visuals and how they seem to play

dreamy mason
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Everyone easy, other than dj Jamie and jp who are slightly harder

faint ice
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Yeah, jamie's basically not hard he's just hard working (to get to win condition)

wicked quarry
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I think Juri and Manon are the easiest here?

faint ice
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I agree alongside cammy

lunar depot
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What about Ryu?

faint ice
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Ryu is not in their picture, but sure ryu is pretty straightforward in 6

lunar depot
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Ryu is my main, but not in SF6.

dreamy mason
lunar depot
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Why?

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Oh, I see he doesn’t really like the game, does he.

haughty zodiac
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is he still going on about swag characters btw whilst playing a zoner?

shrewd furnace
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Probably, that’s literally what he did with snake in smash

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If Steve in smash looked “cool” in his eyes, I can guarantee he’d play him the lamest way possible and say he’s swag

wicked quarry
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@austere garnet

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The whole video is good but I thought youd appreciate this part in particular

haughty zodiac
cosmic forge
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Hit feels so weird in FighterZ

wicked quarry
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He is unusual by the games standarda

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But he is real fun once you get used to him

sharp imp
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Guess I'm gonna start watching SF6 tournaments more often since I follow him

hexed forum
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My GOAT is distancing from Smash

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sadge

sharp imp
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A bit sadge, but he still does cool stuff

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His losers run was nuts and he played insanely good neutral against Dabuz

cosmic forge
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I’ll accept it

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Riddles has a tendency to be a bit annoying

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I wish him all the best in SF

hexed forum
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Honestly everyone clowned on him in the Genesis incident

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I have nothing but respect

hexed forum
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If I hyped myself up for weeks for an event

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Only to get knocked out by someone so far below PR using a Low Tier

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Having everyone pop off for him

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And having a fucking camera take my picture

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I would be pissed too

faint ice
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Riddles' Luke was pretty good

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and the game's just starting

lunar depot
#

Rufus vs Bob - which fat character do you like better?

gaunt cloud
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Bob

shrewd furnace
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Both were top tier at one point or another so neither nyaruhodo

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Actually though I prefer Bob because Bob was funny in tekken 6

late frost
pearl burrow
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Haven't watched it yet but MVP 17

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MVP 17

cosmic forge
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I have a confession about fighting games...

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I cannot backdash consistently on a stick.

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Or, to be more precise...

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<< is so much harder than >>.

south lantern
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Am the opposite, I have harder time doing wavedash

dreamy mason
haughty zodiac
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see raditz video, tbh i'm surprised he isn't official yet

wicked quarry
#

@austere garnet

wicked quarry
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Lmao

gaunt cloud
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Just found out this exists

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Funni

lunar depot
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Do you think Dan becoming badass would defeat the point of his character?

haughty zodiac
dreamy mason
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new!

lunar depot
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Would you guys want Makoto from SFIII 3rd Strike in SF6?

late frost
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I'd be down

cosmic forge
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So, what position should I be playing Gohan in?

wicked quarry
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Point or anchor I think

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@late frost should know more though

late frost
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Adult or Teen Gohan?

cosmic forge
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Adult Gohan

late frost
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Traditionally, you don't want Aohan point. His DP assist is great, and ideally you want to DHC into him so you bring him in with levels. I'm not familiar with what characters have DHC synergy with Aohan, but they tend to have long-duration active supers where Aohan can finish his Level 1 while the other super is still going, and then follow up with, say, a DR to get a knockdown.

faint ice
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rashidooooo

lunar depot
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Rashid in SF6?

pearl burrow
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RASHIDOOOOOOOOO

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I'm going to be playing him

austere garnet
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I’m still waiting for Ed but hey, if y’all are excited for Rashid, I’m glad

lunar depot
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I wonder what Ed will be doing now that Dictator is dead.

crude imp
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LOL

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SAME

paper notch
wicked quarry
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Brisket!

austere garnet
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Badger!

gaunt cloud
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Budget!

vapid lake
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Breakfast!

gaunt cloud
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ok so i'm going throught the sfv6 ost

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they gave blank the Brazilian_Funk_Beat.mp3™️ holy shit

cosmic forge
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@late frost i’m trying a shitload of people out in fighterz

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Got a question

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Is Majin Buu any fun

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Like, fat Buu

hexed forum
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I've had a good time with him

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I like his B assist which is literally just

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If you hit it, full combo with anything

cosmic forge
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Oh right the fat throw?

hexed forum
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Yeah

late frost
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@cosmic forge I don't play Majin Buu, so I can't really say how fun he is.
He's best known as a reset/setup character, along with some randomly strong tools.
He's allegedly top tier, except no one plays him because his tools are all funny. Or maybe he is just bad.

dreamy mason
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incredible

pearl burrow
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dear god

wicked quarry
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Rashidooooo

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@pearl burrow

pearl burrow
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RASHIDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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(I know I keep saying that over and over every time he's mentioned but it's iconic)

late frost
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Looks pretty dope

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That's a sick critical art

wicked quarry
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Yeah he looks fun

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Very mobile

pearl burrow
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HE'S A STREAMER

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Gosh I love him, his kit seems mostly the same (not terribly surprising; and I'm glad he kept the projectiles) but his design is different (no more D-Gazer lol) and yeah the level 3 is NICE

faint ice
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he looks insane

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of course his slide has a crossup afterwards

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comboing off his level 2 looks nasty

faint ice
gaunt cloud
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Have a PlayStation™Network account from and reside in one of the following regions: Japan, Asia, North America, or Europe

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oh nvm they put brazil in the list, we're gaming

dreamy mason
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man i just want a simple music mod

pearl burrow
faint ice
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such a crazy choice

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I'm all for the chaos

pearl burrow
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It’s clickbait, but it works

wicked quarry
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Bro

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How is MK still so bad with animations

austere garnet
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It’s MK

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They put all their money into having very detailed realistic models that will look like shit in five years and paying for their traumatized employee’s therapy bills after they force them to look at snuff for eight hours so it looks slightly more realistic when someone pops Sonya’s head like a grape

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You think they can afford an animation department on top of that???

late frost
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okay
to be fair
that Johnny kick has hitstop

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he's hitting a dude

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the dan kick whiffed so there's no hitstop

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kick still looks horrifically rigid, though

haughty zodiac
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oh yeah that big chunk is from the hitstop moment

wicked quarry
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Nah thats hitstop

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Thats not the issue

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Its that the kick itself is unnaturally stiff

late frost
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yeah

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his knee isn't bent at all on the way up

wicked quarry
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Like compare Dans kick, where it transitions naturally from an angled position to fully stretched out close to the top of the kick

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And then naturally goes back to an angled position as it goes back down

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Vs MK where its basically a straight leg from low to the ground to the top and back

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Its like its angled around

late frost
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yeah it's much more noticeable on the way down

haughty zodiac
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something i'm also going to comment on is the angle of the foot

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dan actually looks like he's hitting with the top of his foot until he pulls it further back at the apex but the MK1 kick is just keeping the foot in the same position just rotating

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though granted johnny boi is in shoes but yeah lack of movement in that foott is weird

paper notch
dreamy mason
teal pebble
lunar depot
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JP looks like someone from LOTR.

wicked quarry
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Most normal Millia super hitbox

wicked quarry
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@austere garnet