we already had mommy event, please don't
#Gacha Chat
old galleon
old galleon
they teased playable felluca in event, so i guess we know what the next banner will be
timber sigil
any Nikketa enjoyers here
she's finally playing an important role in the story wew
also love that the Doll Community is finally getting their time to shine after being absent from the story for so long
I love this group of dorks
glossy latch
Actually made sure to get the Endstate matrix rewards today
God I need to fix my Phoebes energy regen
And maybe my zanis
paper spoke
congrats to that couple of cats for dominating horse racing
rapid bough
i was reading comments earlier saying that the total story content this patch (counting denia afterstory + segue) is 8 hours which would make it the longest story patch yet, longer even than rinascita's finale
i fully anticipate another grand architect smug "just according to keikaku" moment, even if we win a major victory, that will make my hatred of fractsidus writing burn once more with the fire of a thousand suns
kicked off the download before i left for work and came back to it finished 
glossy latch
i fully anticipate another grand architect smug "just according to keikaku" mome...
I reckon the focus is gonna be ||kicking Aleph-1s ass||
Also almost forgor to pre-download
Still gonna suck having to dodge spoilers on thursday ๐
rapid bough
I reckon the focus is gonna be ||kicking Aleph-1s ass||
it is, but ||we'll either succeed and save aemeath (and somehow this will all be according to GA's plan anyway), or we'll fail and that will be according to GA's plan anyway. this is the corner they've written themselves into with the fractsidus||
glossy latch
We'll have to see
I'm still not quite as negative on the ||Fractsidus|| as you are
||I think having us succeed in getting Aemeath back and ruining their threnodian resonator would be a setback for them||
rapid bough
||well by all rights it should be... i can't wait to see how it's somehow not because we still have like 4 or 5 more story patches in lahai roi lol||
glossy latch
Oh we probably don't
||We're expected to go to Huanglong in 3.5, and 3.4 is the collab patch||
rapid bough
||wait what, when did they say huanglong was 3.5+||
||also to be fair, this could just be "lahai roi away from lahai roi" in the same way septimont was to ragunna--i guess my point is that the aleph 1 stuff probably has many more patches left to it, similar to leviathan. doesn't have to be lahai roi||
glossy latch
I expect we do get back to ||Lahai Roi|| again but ||Leaks have been suggesting itll be huanglong in 3.5, since were getting Yangyang SP||
rapid bough
||also also, is "collab patch" asummed to consume the story for that patch? or will it just be a major event that runs during the patch?
idk what the standard for major collabs is for this type of game, since they happen much more infrequently than, say, nikke (which separates events and MSQ anyway) ||
glossy latch
Uhh
Question mark?
||Given the only other character that patch is Lucilla I expect us to at most get a Luuk-style story rather than a full story||
||3.3 being 8 hours worth also would line up with that||
rapid bough
true
guess i'm just assuming they'll follow the same structure as 2.x but they've shown a willingness to push the envelope with how the lahai roi story has progressed so far so i guess i can be cautiously optimistic ||except about the fractsidus||
glossy latch
||Ok its starting to sound like you want to be disappointed||
rapid bough
||we're nearly two years into the story and i've yet to experience a single meaningful cathartic moment from stopping the fractsidus. the absolute worst they've reacted is the equivalent of "oh bother" and most of the time they're just smiling smugly through it all because they have 130537453894347 other plans lined up down the road. forgive me for noticing the trend||
||the story has been constructed in such a way that we only ever really react to the fractsidus, but when those reactions stop them, they're treated as minor inconveniences and we move on to the next world-ending event we have to react to||
||in 3.3's credit, the teasers do imply we're going on the offensive for once. but of course, insert my pessimism here since there's no way the GA didn't see this coming and denia is going to sabotage it somehow and our victory will be through her instead of the GA and the GA will just wave it off because she was a puppet anyway and they have other plans in motion to free aleph 1 etc etc||
||i haven't seen the story of course but i feel like i have since anything involving threnodians involves the fractsidus and everything involving the fractsidus has played out the same way since they were introduced as major recurring villains||
runic ether
throwing stones from a glass house because i will avoid current wuwa spoilers...
but did u guys leak the epstein files in chat with how redacted it all is?
rapid bough
more courtesy spoilers than anything else since some of it covers recent wuwa story (but not even the most recent patch)
more theory about what the next patch will be than what we actually know to be spoiled
rapid bough
i feel like this chat has gone through <REDACTED> hells worse than this
when y'all get to talking about the latest limbus canto it gets like this
runic ether
throwing stones from a glass house because i will avoid current wuwa spoilers......
hence
rapid bough
same when a new nikke chapter comes out and argor, meta, and i all nerd out about it for a day or two lol
glossy latch
I mean I don't disagree that the Fractsidus and the writing around them has issues but I do think youre too pessimistic
runic ether
when y'all get to talking about the latest limbus canto it gets like this
not just the cantos. but the intervallos too!
okay i caught up
runic ether
||i haven't seen the story of course but i feel like i have since anything invol...
i agree but this is just a gacha issue i think...
rapid bough
it is to an extent that i think i've mentioned it before as part of my many spiels about the fundamental limitations of the gacha format as it pertains to storytelling/narrative development
ZZZ nearly went down this road too with the exaltists who you'll recall i hated from start to finish lol
glossy latch
I will say while I cant talk about the main story of HSR ... not having played it
I do like that their worldbuilding has managed to avoid the usual pitfalls
(Well I havent played Amphoreus and Planarcadia specifically)
runic ether
you havent played half the game
but as someone who did play amphoreus, i can tell you
it kind of avoids some but falls into others
rapid bough
nikke has managed to avoid it for the most part, though i want to stress that i don't think recurring villains are a problem in and of themselves
it's just the narrative dissonance between thwarting a world-ending event every patch but that never being allowed room to breathe as a significant victory because you just move on to the next world-ending event caused by the same goddamn group
runic ether
limbus avoids recurring villain problems bc they do end up having massive wins in other spots even tho there are spots where they do feel like total frauds (it was needed)
glossy latch
it's just the narrative dissonance between thwarting a world-ending event every ...
Wellllll there is a game series that shows how to do that~
rapid bough
like, narratively, the rinascita finale in wuwa was a massive victory to cap off many others throughout 2.x -- you no joke save the world (or at least rinascita). like if you weren't there that shit was donezo. it was the final act of the fractsidus' master plan and you stopped it
what was the fractsidus' reaction to this? ||no joke, almost verbatim it was "we accomplished all our goals here, on to the 3.x zone"||
diabolical
glossy latch
Well not quite, its moreso ||we accomplished what we could, now we need to move on|| but eh
Its not portrayed too well
Tbf I think the Fractsidus need to be used more, hmmm
rapid bough
no we've been over this, the GA literally says what i put in quotes
glossy latch
Not quite sparingly but like
glossy latch
They shouldn't be the main driver, but rather manipulators behind the scenes who set events into motion and then see what happen
glossy latch
Again I am going to talk about Trails
runic ether
even if they go "you know what, fine"
glossy latch
You cant stop me talking about Trails
rapid bough
is it *really* so hard to show the villains visibly frustrated
for wuwa, apparently yes
glossy latch
But the main reason I think the Society in Trails works is because while they instigate basically every single plot, they're never the main villains and sometimes even lose control of their own plot
Every time the actual driver is someone else, they just helped set things into motion, directly or indirectly
wispy goblet
how real is Mana in Missilis Tower
rapid bough
i cannot stress enough how one of the villains getting even a LITTLE bothered by us stopping (or at least delaying) them would go so far for me
glossy latch
(Also the nature of their organisation means you see different people each time instead of it always being the same 2-3)
runic ether
yea
rapid bough
i don't need them begging at our feet for mercy
i just want them to react in a negative way so i feel like what we did meant something to them lol
runic ether
will always appreciate limbus having that moment and still showing both their overall goals, while hampered, still had the duo that showed up massively fail and need to scramble after we beat them
glossy latch
So you don't get annoyed when Campanella shows up again to do some fuckery because you know someone else is still the main driver, they're just there to make things happen first and foremost
runic ether
its literally all i ask out of writing lol
like sure
even if they go "well fuck it, whatever, i can live without x"
to see them... react?
glossy latch
You will however get annoyed when Campanella shows up again and decides to fight if he does his fucking switcheroo attack again
Stop ruining my positioning >:[
rapid bough
how real is Mana in Missilis Tower
prolly fine? but surely not better than your other options
glossy latch
So in that regard I think we need more non-Fractsidus villains
Someone else who sets things into motion for the threnodian
rapid bough
my missilis team is tia/liter/naga/ein/QEQ
glossy latch
If their involvement is less direct and more tangentially related you can also just have them lose and back off so you can focus on the main threat
But we'll see what they do
I do have faith in the WuWa writers, they do clearly know how to write emotionally resonant stories 3.1 was so good
long tree
Update on my gundam account, prolly gonna save for a zeta rerun now
rapid bough
I do have faith in the WuWa writers, they do clearly know how to write emotional...
3.1 was the best story chapter yet and my major source of hope for the story (which yes i do have despite drowning this chat in pessimism)
but uh
you may recall it was nearly entirely devoid of the fractsidus ||(yes aemeath's fate was due to the GA's machinations but my point is we didn't have to directly confront them or stop anything, the story was about rover and aemeath and it was fantastic in large part because it deviated from the "solve the next world-ending crisis" formula||
rapid bough
well 3.3 is back to the well with threnodians and fractsidus (through denia at the very least)
the individual character beats of that sort of stuff is something they consistently nail, as they did with cartethyia, lupa, phrolova, galbrena...
that's not really what i'm pessimistic about
they can do epic and emotionally resonant stories, which is honestly what makes me hate the fractsidus so much more since they'll go like 99% of the way toward us winning definitively and undermining the true villains through the powers of determination and friendship which, for all its cliches, is a tried and true formula that fits like a glove onto the gacha story format
and then the last 1% will be a rugpull like "jk everything you did doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, onwards to stopping their next plan dailybitch"
glossy latch
Well cant have the story end too early (but yes thats why I think we need more villains that arent Fractsidus)
I suspect well get more villains when we go to new fed but who knows if thats our next stop
rapid bough
yeah new villains would serve the story well, though the new fed feels like the last place we'd get them since that place is outright stated to be the fractsidus' home turf so if there's anywhere that the fractsidus should be behind every plot and pulling every string, it's there
really they just need to flesh out the threnodians more
i feel like they ran into an issue where the threnodians were meant to be these otherworldy borderline lovecraftian beings that are beyond our comprehension, we only know they need to be stopped since they'll destroy the world
glossy latch
It's precisely because its the Fractsidus' home turf that I expect there to be other villains
rapid bough
and because that's not really compelling, they substituted the fractsidus in as the "masterminds" behind threnodian attempts to destroy the world because the fractsidus can at least be nuanced and interesting
glossy latch
Because the villains usually try to upset the status quo
To bring about change, while you try to steer that change for the better
In a setting where the Fractsidus already are dominant they can't be agents of that change
wispy goblet
my missilis team is tia/liter/naga/ein/QEQ
basically my team too except I usually use OS Mihara
just asked since the element and damage ranges lined up for Mana specifically
rapid bough
if they did more with the threnodians to break them away from needing the fractsidus to be a compelling antagonist force that'd probably go a long way
remember when the rinascita finale dropped the big lore bomb that ||abby was somehow threnodian-adjacent and leviathan asked why he betrayed them? and then we haven't so much as touched that thread since?||
rapid bough
In a setting where the Fractsidus already are dominant they can't be agents of t...
well the problem here is that the change we want to bring about is less fractsidus lol
seems like a great opportunity for "enemy of my enemy is my friend", not really new villains
glossy latch
||To be fair I think it makes narrative sense for it to not be immediately explored because Abby is as clueless as we are and Aleph-1 is ... not very talkative||
glossy latch
well the problem here is that the change we want to bring about is less fractsid...
True, but I can't really imagine we'll go for a revolution-type storyline
It's not ... really how Rover is written exactly?
But tbh who knows, were not even sure New Fed is our next stop
I do think WuWa overall has the best story of the gachas I am playing or have played though granted that in itself doesnt say much given the others are Genshin, ZZZ and HSR
wispy goblet
ZZZ 3.0 beta expected in two days
I am going stir-crazy waiting for it
rapid bough
I do think WuWa overall has the best story of the gachas I am playing or have pl...
i'd put wuwa 3rd among gachas i've played and paid attention to the story for
nikke > gfl2 > wuwa > ZZZ
glossy latch
I mean I've not played nikke or gfl2
rapid bough
i know lol
glossy latch
I wouldnt put WuWa too high in my list of overall games tbh but its also not that low either
rapid bough
though gfl2 only somewhat recently claimed that #2 spot
glossy latch
It's like, upper middle half?
rapid bough
its story meandered for a long while but finally found its footing in the last few months
glossy latch
Maybe 70th percentile
Also if you want this kinda story done well, you can always play trails 
The second game is getting a remake soon and well have the next instalment next year probably
runic ether
for me its limbus by a mile
glossy latch
Which is the finale of the current arc
runic ether
depending on how limbus goes, it may even go up there in terms of general stories
but i'll hold my horses
kim-ji hoon may fall off
you never know
glossy latch
And then its just 1 or 2 arcs more until the series reaches its finale
(Realistically anyway)
God I hope Horizon 2 is good, I need it to manage to wrap up all the plot points, give us the big reveals and do so in as high a quality as Daybreak, Daybreak 2 and Horizon
rapid bough
It's not ... really how Rover is written exactly?
fwiw i think part and parcel of humanizing rover is going to be him going to new fed specifically to put the hurt on the fractsidus ||if it turns out to be true that the GA led to aemeath's death||
this is also a point of optimism for me about how they may handle the fractsidus in the coming chapters
old galleon
my missilis team is tia/liter/naga/ein/QEQ
mine is tia/liter/naga/laplace/drake, swapping in or out between ein/qeq/mihara as needed
rapid bough
sure they've played coy with giving the players a satisfying fractsidus defeat, but until now the fractsidus have just been some loonies with deranged goals and insufferably smug about it all
old galleon
also i'm diving back into the cesspool that is azur lane bc i'm curious if anything's meaningfully changed in the 9 months i've missed
they're running a third doa collab lmao
rapid bough
aemeath's story has given rover a real personal motivation to stopping them now though
glossy latch
Hmmm
rapid bough
it can be more than just him wanting to save the world and help people
glossy latch
Maybe theyre gonna deal with Scar in ||the return to Huanglong||
Idk if we're really gonna deal with the Fractsidus for good this early though
Well
rapid bough
doesn't have to be for good
glossy latch
"This early" being the fourth region
old galleon
as for the gacha stories thing, i rate nikke highly but idk if i can put it over fgo for now
rapid bough
i would accept, and i quote, "shoving an entire broadblade up the GA's ass"
old galleon
that's less "nikke is bad" and more "fgo is just that good"
(in terms of story anyway)
(nikke easily clears it on gameplay)
rapid bough
that's hilarious since nikke's gameplay isn't exactly great lol
glossy latch
i would accept, and i quote, "shoving an entire broadblade up the GA's ass"
Reasonable
glossy latch
It would be interesting if he's taken out but the organisation continues
How does the loss of the one who was there from the start change it
What does it mean for their motives and goals?
summer hornet
The most crippling thing is just how manual FGO is imo
old galleon
99% of the game can be easily reduced to "bring a looping system"
glossy latch
After all, everyone we know in the Fractsidus is in it for themselves, the architect is the one keeping it all together
But eh, musings for another time
Also rhythm game was kinda fun but I'm sad we didn't get Q.E.D.
rapid bough
i really did not like the wuwa rhythm game
glossy latch
Also speed mode is slightly annoying and might need a change
rapid bough
the visuals felt extremely cluttered to me
oh yeah and speed mode was pure unfettered ass
glossy latch
the visuals felt extremely cluttered to me
That's just WuWa
Anyway I will get around to playing Planarcadia some time
If nothing else just in the hope that Sampo becomes plot-relevant again
rapid bough
~~That's just WuWa~~
ok fair this is an issue with combat too lol
glossy latch
Funny enough it's why I'm a big fan of Luuk and Galbrena
Their effects are less excessive
So they don't cause as much clutter and you get to appreciate the animations without messing with the gameplay
... I do need to stop yapping and go to sleep though, its almost 2 am and I have a long and annoying day tomorrow
rapid bough
glossy latch
summer hornet
If nothing else just in the hope that Sampo becomes plot-relevant again
He showed up a solid amount in 4.0
Haven't played 4.1 yet
rapid bough
also to return to my nikke story ranking: to be fair my opinion of it is currently at or at least near an all-time high because i think chapter 46 may have been the best chapter in the entire story
it is certainly not without many issues lol
but when it hits it hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiits
speaking of, tomorrow part 2 of the event story starts and my heart is not ready to see TT star dragged through the mud
old galleon
are you ready for smile time motherfucker
rapid bough
i will NOT be smiling
old galleon
me either
unrelated but i've so far managed to get tamaki (who was in the first rerun) and shandy (who is new to this rerun)
game is actively trying to get me to stick around, apparently
rapid bough
azur lane?
rapid bough
yeah i saw the DOA collab and i'm still part of the subreddit so i see news/ship announcements
old galleon
to be clear doa isn't the reason i'm jumping back in
rapid bough
but so long as those announcements are only ships and skins, i'm staying away
old galleon
but it is a nice side effect i guess
rapid bough
i did unironically find the game fun when i had to actually build teams
once i had my choice of 20 different URs though it got stale as hell
and the grindiness doesn't help matters
old galleon
i've missed three ur events worth of rainbows and essex meta, so i'm actually a bit sad
rapid bough
i actually would probably start playing again if the game wasn't such an inordinate timesink
old galleon
esp bc one of those is lexington ii, who i do want to reunite with saratoga
rapid bough
i've missed three ur events worth of rainbows and essex meta, so i'm actually a ...
this keeps me further away lol
old galleon
i actually would probably start playing again if the game wasn't such an inordin...
understandable
rapid bough
while i'm playing, FOMO can keep me
but once i stop, FOMO keeps me away since i don't want to struggle with the fact that i missed releases i may otherwise have wanted
old galleon
ye that's part of why i took so long to jump back in tbh
i had missed several months of research and whatnot
probably just gonna have to accept being super far behind on pr8 tho
honestly as long as i can get gouden leeuw set up, i'm probably okay
rapid bough
if they ever make it so commissions are once per day and implement better sweep functionality i could see myself picking the game up again as my waifu collector of choice
old galleon
everyone else including mecklenburg would be icing
rapid bough
unfortunately i don't see it happening, manjuu absolutely does not give a single fuck about improving azur lane's gameplay lol
old galleon
being able to sweep main campaign stages would be nice
i can do 14-4 but going into it manually is kind of a pain
i just want new orleans before going into 15
(and then i'll stay there for houston ii before diving into 16)
(i also don't even want to think about 16 tbh)
rapid bough
sweep campaign stages and at least most of opsi (maybe except the arbiter and enforcer fights)
and i prolly come back
old galleon
the jp anni event had a free ur sub who is super useful for the sub boss fight in 16
so i'm way behind on that
rapid bough
rip
i don't think i ever progressed past campaign chapter 13 lol
just couldn't be assed
i definitely could have before i stopped, had all the ships and weapons
old galleon
14 isn't that bad, 15 is plane hell, 16 is if they fused 14 and 15 and turned it up to 12
rapid bough
but it takes ages and tons of oil
old galleon
also sub boss
rapid bough
and i'd rather use that time and oil on 12-4 grinding since i was spending coins as fast as i earned them lol
old galleon
12-4 is a lot of what i did too
and it's what i'll probably be returning to, to do my ship exp grinds
.....once i catch up on the doa event bc that ends in a few days
wispy goblet
Any NTE players here? Watching streams on release day.
rapid bough
what happened to only being able to handle 2 gacha
maiden veldt
why did they pick that name anyways?
it's kind of sus honestly, especially when you notice what is right of the E key on a keyboard.
rapid bough
wispy goblet
zzz drop the rest of the 3.0 drip
blease
blor favor
old galleon
Any NTE players here? Watching streams on release day.
looked interesting to me but apparently my tablet isn't eligible for it, so it ain't happening
runic ether
airgid is a stupid fucking last name lmao
maiden veldt
timber sigil
wild crossover
summer hornet
SP Blade has bonuses for team Ultimate damage or follow-up damage based on how many nihility characters are in the squad
It might for Acheron. But more importantly (at least to me)
The ||all male follow up team (feat. Aventurine SP)|| leak might be real
wispy goblet
versed pawn
She had to many assets for a a rank I feel
wispy goblet
3.0 beta expected tomorrow
I need kits from all three agents
bor favor
versed pawn
From what I've seen a while ago is she has multiple diffrent sized missiles
Some of them where like 3/4 her body sizeb
Sounds hilarious wanna see this in play
wispy goblet
mild prediction
Velina will be off-field-based
to synergize with our primarily on-field Anomaly cast
and then Norma will be on-field-based to compliment Velina
finally
the return of the field hog stunner
runic ether
so like the opposite of yi xuan and fufu
wispy goblet
also new discs expected for 3.0
I need the beta info
blease hoyo
old galleon
apparently the skins that got banned at the start of last year (as in the google play fiasco) got unbanned at some point later last year
lol
old galleon
just got a dupe to drop in another set so i'm in the saved 16k currency club if buying dupes were actually worth it
silver osprey
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Watchman Medic
Restores the HP of friendly units, can Take Off
Talent 1 - Dust of the Past
Max HP, DEF, Block Count and Block Range increases
Upon deployment, Takes Off immediately
Talent 2 - Monument of the Healer
When an ally operator is deployed within Attack Range, the operator gains 1 layer of Shield and a buff that heals them for a certain amount of HP every second for a few seconds (does not stack), the effect is doubled for [Rhodes Island] operators
Skill 1 - Emergency Response Defense Line
When skill is active, ATK & ASPD increases, the Block Range of all other operators in the air increases
Skill 2 - Protective Denial
When skill is active, Attack Range expands and ATK increases, attacks change to firing medical units (prioritizes enemies), dealing a certain % of ATK as True damage to all enemies around the target upon hit, inflicting a brief Slow and healing all ally operators around the target
Skill activation grants ammo and the skill ends when all ammo is used (Can manually deactivate skill)
Skill 3 - Breakthrough Rebirth
When skill is activated, gain a Tactical Anchor Point
ATK increases, Attack Interval decreases, can heal an additional target
When the Anchor is deployed, Kal'tsit will move to that tile and bring along 2 of the most recently deployed ally operators within her Attack Range to be deployed in her Attack Range at the new location
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silver osprey
Also Spectalter's IS module is crazy
If she's not in her doll and an ally dies near her, that ally is immortal for a few seconds then she changes into her doll and the doll does two ticks of DoT instead of 1
rapid bough
sigh, i was hoping norma would be DPS so she'd be an easy skip. the last few stunners have been broken OP though (dialyn and nangong), hoyo seems to lose all concept of balance when making stunners these days so i'm worried she'll end up as a must-pull. AND she's fire... i presume her niche is going to be juicing wind units sorta like lighter does to fire+ice
velina out here looking like temari from naruto with that big-ass fan
rapid bough
it occurs to me that this makes 4 fire stunners and 3 of them are the smol girl type lol
hoyo has an archetype apparently
glossy latch
Is Hoyo saying small girls are hot ๐คจ
rapid bough
*stares emphatically at angels of delusion designs + costumes*
glossy latch
I was about to make a reference to that too lmao
Idk I find both announced designs very meh
Why are Norma's legs bare and why does the splash art draw attention to them
rapid bough
velina is both mommy and new element, she's as good as pulled for me. though i imagine remielle will be 3.1 and also wind as the actual flagship wind unit
i am curious to see velina's combat animations
hoyo rarely misses with those so i'm optimistic, but gonna be hard to look cool with the big fan
rapid bough
i don't think temari ever really looked cool except when she posed with the fan lol
when she was actually using it she just swung it awkwardly
rapid bough
velina is both mommy and new element, she's as good as pulled for me. though i i...
actually a thought occurs to me - remielle is almost certainly a void hunter (or that tier), and all such units have those weird rebranded elements. miyabi with frost, yixuan with auric ink, and shunguang with honed edge (i literally forgot the name and had to look it up)
are they going to make a wind offshoot element right after releasing it? lol
i think remielle is locked in as a VH(-tier), so that means they either make her wind and buck the trend of VHs having rebranded elements, or she's some other element offshoot
i think she's guaranteed a rebranded element though since her stasis power seems so unique and doesn't even really follow the color scheme of any existing element
glossy latch
Does wind even have a normal anomaly?
rapid bough
mechanically you mean?
glossy latch
Ye
rapid bough
no it's pretty abnormal. iirc it does nothing on its own and exists entirely to be combo'd with other anomalies. it's like a juiced disorder/abloom
glossy latch
Hmm
So unless they do something like Genshins Lunar reaction there's not really any way to make an altered version like other VH
rapid bough
i think remielle is locked in as a VH(-tier), so that means they either make her...
there is the obvious third option that remielle is rebranded wind anyway btw, just strikes me as odd given wind is the new mechanic
glossy latch
She's gonna get the new element, windnt
rapid bough
another thought occurs: remielle's in-universe stasis power (or whatever it is) seems perfect for a stunner
the thought of a VH-tier support character terrifies me
look at what nangong and dialyn do and they're not even VHs lol
it would be pretty weird for them to release norma as a stunner and then remielle as a VH stunner tho
glossy latch
Stun character who can force enemies into a temporary stun state without their stun bar being full
rapid bough
the kit basically writes itself lol
lusty egret
lusty egret
@mortal iron @summer hornet
rapid bough
implying hugo isn't completely forgotten by the devs
lusty egret
She kinda cracked
rapid bough
hugo is one of the worst units in the game by now unfortunately, dude has been powercrept and shilled out of existence basically
damn shame since he's super fun and satisfying to play
lusty egret
Entire team buff and has its own character skill
mortal iron
what other tags does he have i gotta see
glossy latch
I mean it'd be funny if that was her gimmick and he became top tier because of it
mortal iron
if she has no good teams then it's joever
lusty egret
lusty egret
Kinda makes sense tbh, Phenex already good without Jona
Its same as Sentinel
More the suit being so good the pilot become irrelevant
rapid bough
ACTUALLY actually, remielle being a wind offshoot would make tons of sense given wind doesn't do anything on its own really
sorta like how miyabi synergizes with ice units to double freeze
idle grove
okay im being mean, he's just unremarkably mid
well he's from narrative it makes sense
rapid bough
remielle could be wind-but-not and fit right in with existing and future wind units specifically because they want something other than wind
ok lock it in, remielle will be a windn't VH... and while i want to say she's a stunner because that's the best fit for her apparent powers, idk if hoyo has the balls or the ability to keep the powercreep genie in the bottle
glossy latch
I mean could take a page out of HSRs book and give her a temporary stasis that isn't a stun but does stop them
rapid bough
feel like that would be a pretty pointless gimmick and actually almost a debuff if you stop the boss at the wrong time, since sometimes you actually want to do its mechanics lol
glossy latch
Could be a Dialyn situation where you need to consciously activate it
rapid bough
well yeah i'm sure it'd be on-demand
glossy latch
Maybe would allow you to do slow attacks without risk of getting hit out
rapid bough
just would be difficult to fit into a lot of fights, especially recent ones
which are increasingly sorta on rails for at least parts of the fight
glossy latch
Iunno, just spitballing here
rapid bough
i think your initial guess of an on-demand stun window makes the most sense since that's exactly the sort of OP bullshit a VH stunner would prolly have lol
glossy latch
Maybe I'm just not sure how they would code Hugos interaction with it
rapid bough
don't see why it'd need to be anything more complex than just any other normal stun he can trigger totalize with
glossy latch
Well do you clear the stun bar the enemy had at the time? Do you just do fixed damage?
... also Lighter now that I think about it
rapid bough
it would def preserve existing daze
hugo deals damage based on how much time is left in the stun so i feel like that solves itself even if it's a mini stun window
glossy latch
Hmm I guess that makes sense
rapid bough
whether lighter or nangong would extend this theoretical forced stun window is a good question tho
glossy latch
Would make Lighter Rem his potential bis
rapid bough
nah nangong extends the stun window too so it's really just 100 more years of nangong
the angel pairing will not be denied
slow raft
X
rapid bough
oh i misread i thought you were talking about remielle's BIS
yeah if rem does free stuns she prolly ends up hugo's BIS
and prolly does more damage than hugo
glossy latch
Nah Hugos
For Remielle I assume it'd be one of the new DPS and Nangong she's run with
Maybe Aria Nangong?
rapid bough
velina nangong probably
tho if rem is a stunner, query whether nangong is overkill lol
glossy latch
Well see I suppose
rapid bough
yeah this is all just spitballing a month+ in advance lol
glossy latch
Funny that Evelyn still doesn't have her bis set too
rapid bough
i pray for one every day
she's still plenty strong without but my queen deserves better
glossy latch
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if you end up getting her E6S5
I'm sure the bankruptcy a week later would be unrelated too
rapid bough
i've said before i want her m6 eventually but yeah that'll be a chore lol
a minor struggle is that her early mindscapes are kinda meh, i think m1 astra and m2 lighter are better for her than dupes
i'll be dead and buried before i go for any weapon dupes for any character tho
maybe i chance into some on a 10-pull but it'll never be the goal
glossy latch
Until ZZZ announces S5 weapons getting special animations for their corresponding characters
rapid bough
that animation would need to be some brown dust 2 tier stuff to get me to cave
wispy goblet
Assuming Velina will fill the role as Wind applier
She's currently in the "would be nice" category
Not particularly moved authentically or horny-ily
but if she opens up interesting team options I'll look at my pull bank and the reruns and consider
wispy goblet
These characters have not yet have their first rerun:
- Harumasa
- Dialyn
- Banyue
- Ye Shunguang
- Zhao
- Sunna
- Aria
slow raft
It all comes back to fsn
https://x.com/HeienYang/status/2049418122478989518
X
glossy latch
Realistically probably not?
Its a common aesthetic for people burning out their power
slow raft
They likely mean in connection with the displayed image
I cant find a good image but im sure you can see the paralells
slow raft
He also grabs a single sword from the air that doesnt have a hilt after this
Like its hard not to see it lol
slow raft
Its a common aesthetic for people burning out their power
also i cant think of another property where this happens tbf
glossy latch
I was gonna say Might Guy but admittedly his hair isn't white
slow raft
digital marlin
i've said before i want her m6 eventually but yeah that'll be a chore lol
Brother
runic ether
summer hornet
old galleon
reminder to nikke people that apparently skill resets go away with today's daily reset (about 2 hours and 40 minutes from now)
if you haven't used them yet and want to, you have until then
slow raft
X
glossy latch
Damn, I didn't know Endfield had leeks too
old galleon
does Solo Raid start today
did they give an exact time (with time zone) for it starting?
old galleon
then plan accordingly
astral drift
long tree
old galleon
congrats
i've had no luck so far but i did get vesti dupe (og) and yulha dupe
spoilers are already up on nikke sub, so be warned
old galleon
fatal maid gives rapture storm a real run for its money
ofc it has to be a fuckin jazz song
bc those are very hard for me lol
so does jinx player
for the same reason as fatal maid
figures the two jazzy songs are some of the hardest
love jazz but damn if it ain't a bitch to play in rhythm games
(i'm playing on hard btw, normal is probably trivial for most of these)
oh shit they gave us true entertainment w ith this batch of relics
rapid bough
(i'm playing on hard btw, normal is probably trivial for most of these)
you underestimate my power (of sucking ass at these minigames)
wispy goblet
maiden veldt
rapid bough
nikke engages in some questionable sexualization but princess is not an example of that
if you know you know
old galleon
yeah princess is one of the least sexualized characters in the game
rapid bough
neon's theme on the recruit screen
god it slaps so hard
got too much work to do so gonna skip through nikke story for now and actually read it when i get home friday
as usual i'm sure avoiding spoilers will be hell
ugh same for wuwa story
oh god that's right, the anis gacha costume is out now too
goodbye $50
old galleon
go clutch and get it in 10
rapid bough
i'm pretty sure that's like 0.1% odds or something absurd lol
old galleon
saw a streamer pull it off for libby
so you can at least cope
almost tempted to throw some gems at shandy skin, but trafalgar skin is quite similar to it and i actually use trafalgar
so idk
rapid bough
yeah $50
i got the secondary skin at $40, i feel bad for people who only want that one
i was holding out hope the second skin would be like a guaranteed reward at $20 or smth to bring it in-line with a pass skin
but as-is, it's just a second skin on the gacha track, which is objectively worse than if it were a season pass
people who are going for the major gacha skin (like me) don't care about the secondary one so it's a meaningless reward on the track
and i'd wager needing to play the gacha for the secondary skin will scare more people off than it draws in, and of those who are drawn in, they're getting a worse deal than if it were just a season pass guaranteed for $20
step in the wrong direction on a system that had already run a marathon in the wrong direction
old galleon
by far the most advanced scam i've ever encountered
glossy latch
Damn now Bronya is even getting Expies in other games
wispy goblet
what's the guarantee number in WuWa
digital marlin
80
glossy latch
Do I go for Hiyuki or do I pull Mornye for Luuk 
rapid bough
30 in bois
god i hope i'm this lucky
i need some wuwa luck, i apparently used all mine up when i started since it's been rough since
wispy goblet
so close
glossy latch
Hmmmmm
glossy latch
Dang
Lost the 50/50 on Hiyuki, got Calcharo
... do I try to go for Mornye instead then?
rapid bough
ok it took me 70 but thank fuck i won the 50
i couldn't handle losing three 50s in a row
digital marlin
... do I try to go for Mornye instead then?
Flipped a coin and landed on tails. you should go for Moryne
glossy latch
ok it took me 70 but thank fuck i won the 50
:[
I did try on Mornye but I dont have that many rolls for her
rapid bough
gonna dump my weapon pulls into hiyuki's sig, maybe i lucksack it in 14
well 24 ig since there's 10 waiting from the anni rewards track
wuwa has the biggest cocktease of a pull animation
the shooting star or whatever it is starts out looking so golden no matter what you end up pulling
rapid bough
gonna dump my weapon pulls into hiyuki's sig, maybe i lucksack it in 14
no such luck, will keep trying when i get the extra 10 later during anni
old galleon
solo raid probably starts tonight, check back in around an hour or so (if it doesn't start tonight it should start tomorrow night instead)
i will not have neon for it unless i get quite lucky on freebies
i'm not using mileage whlie free draws still exist
at least anis was kind to me
incidentally, gbf premium banner goes live in an hour from now, so use the free draws from tdoay on that
rapid bough
i'm gonna be using freebies on neon until the last day of solo raid when i'll just pull for her if i don't have her yet
updated wuwa UI looks slick
same basic organization, just looks nicer
that said, some parts are missing translations 
^ same with weekly challenges (don't look at those yet if you can avoid it btw, they just spoil you straight up on the new boss lol)
mystic python
that said, some parts are missing translations <:icant:1310294700384714813>
Which parts are missing translations? I wanna see
Also yea damn, the weeklies section just has it out there, huh
rapid bough
Which parts are missing translations? I wanna see
the part under the boss names
it's in the screenshot
digital marlin
Also yea damn, the weeklies section just has it out there, huh
rapid bough
same with several other parts of the UI
i'm gonna have like 30 standard pulls by the time this patch is done and depending on whether i get hiyuki's weapon they'll be going toward either a second EoG or static mist, we shall see
glossy latch
Those are just stylistic choices I believe
mystic python
Under the boss names is just windings, doesn't look like any real language
rapid bough
it looks wildly out of place compared to all the other UI elements that have real text there
and i don't remember that text being there before the UI change
mystic python
Yea I think it's just there for fun
It's the same "text" under everything, and I feel like it's the same font they use in livestreams when they don't want to show what the text actually will be in game
rapid bough
honestly would look better if they just centered the name instead of having a top/bottom portion they clearly copy-pasted from the other UI elements that do have text there
mystic python
Yea it is a little random
Also holy fuck I need this, don't even have Aemeath but I'm gonna get her to use this
rapid bough
yeah her character accessory is hella blessed (along with everything else about her tbh, absolute daughter)
hiyuki's is also pretty
in general the accessories are a nice touch
mystic python
Ye it's nice, hopefully a lot more options down the line (more characters, more stuff for each character)
I love my fat fucking chud son
mystic python
Also holy fuck I need this, don't even have Aemeath but I'm gonna get her to use...
0 braincells in this picture
rapid bough
no thoughts, only vibes
between the 20 extra radiant tides yet to claim from anni content, and the 10 more from login event + pioneer podcast, i'll have 30 guaranteed limited pulls which has me tempted to go in and just get hiyuki's weapon with astrites if the 10 extra weapon pulls from anni don't get me there
but surely i'll just get lucky and rip her sig with the 10 extra pulls 
i'm not pulling for anyone else this patch and i may end up having to skip the collab for lucilla anyway
wispy goblet
ZZZ 3.0 beta is out in the wild
time to google translate
wispy goblet
Norma looks to support Attack and Rupture teams
also crit rate chase stat
no crit rate in her core, though, unlike the Fufu Fighter
this woman has auto turrets
she's an engineer
alright
time to parse these kits
rapid bough
Norma looks to support Attack and Rupture teams
also crit rate chase stat
fire stunner with on-demand chain attacks that give decibels and an extended stun window with an ATK + DMG buff... don't make her eve's BIS please god
tbh the ATK buff is already weird for eve since it oversaturates when you have astra, that's part of why lighter is so good since he gives fire DMG% + CDMG% instead
maiden veldt
that could be useful for harumasa due to how his quiver system works
wispy goblet
Velina Skim Summary
Velina's unique gimmick is she has ways to manually spend assist points to trigger her assist follow-up. She can do this from her basic chain, and her EX.
She can also trigger back QAs from her basic chain.
Her EX has a raw version with a dodge mechanic that triggers Vital View, and an enhanced version you chain into from a raw EX, assist-follow-up, dodge counter, or quick assist.
Velina's core has an ER scaling that grants extra AM "up to a maximum additional increase of 0 points"
Velina's unique resource is Wind Energy. With enough Wind Energy, her held basic lets her set up a continuous field that deals damage for 5s. This field combines with other anomaly triggers to trigger bonus effects, which compound together for extra damage.
glossy latch
fire stunner with on-demand chain attacks that give decibels and an extended stu...
Doubt it tbh?
Lighter still has the Res shred, Norma doesnt seem to
Unless she gets it in Eidolons, I think Lighter remains BiS
It is mildly worrying they might powercreep Lighter with an A-rank though
wispy goblet
just kidding language should count Velina in the two so you only need one more
maiden veldt
but remember the biggest meta defiant, my bloody wallet.
glossy latch
Well, no Hiyuki or Mornye yet today
I might end up trying to get Mornye and then focus on getting Phrolovas weapon to ensure the team is maxed out
old galleon
solo raid is live
so too is gbf's premium banner, featuring felluca (as expected) and some out of season april fool's joke
wispy goblet
Norma Skim Summary
When Norma is the point character in the "Standby" state, she gains her personal resource, Personal Resource.
She can deploy her Hat to collect resources instead. While her Hat is deployed, it will collect resources on her behalf, even while Norma is not point.
EX deploys a turret that gains Personal Resource, activates Firepower Barrage for 40s, and deals more damage to stunned targets. Hold EX to spend more energy to deal extra damage and extend Firepower Barrage duration. Casting EX also deploys two auto-turrets, and triggers a backwards QA. During Firepower Barrage, Norma's personal ATK increases by up to 800, and all agents deal +40% DMG.
Norma has two additional crit rate scalings, which increase her crit damage and daze applied from EX, assist follow-up, and ult. (Be aware Norma does not appear to have crit rate in her core stats.)
With enough Personal Resource, her QA is replaced with a Chain Attack that additionally grants the incoming character +350 Decibels.
With an Attack or Rupture on team, dealing damage herself or from her turrets increases the Stun Multiplier up to 30% and Stun Duration by 3s.
old galleon
egovista kept its "survive for much much longer than it should" gimmick
level 1 took 32 seconds to clear
approximately 27 of those seconds were spent being dead
rapid bough
It is mildly worrying they might powercreep Lighter with an A-rank though
norma isn't an A rank lol
old galleon
level 2 took 32 seconds to clear
approximately 27 of those seconds were spent being dead
wispy goblet
old galleon
level 3 took 33 seconds to clear
approximately 28 of those seconds were spent being dead
you get the drill
it's not hard, just annoying
"you will do my qte"
and shit like that
wispy goblet
tbh the ATK buff is already weird for eve since it oversaturates when you have a...
I think the ATK buff is just for Norma
her team buff is +40% DMG, +30% stun multiplier, and +3s stun duration
old galleon
anyway, make sure you lock that glow stick you get in the inventory
wispy goblet
shit dawg
both of them look really fun
but I cannot get both of them without comedic levels of spending
glossy latch
Well, time to go to sleep
Gotta farm slowly to get hopefully Mornye and Phrolovas weapon
wispy goblet
event w-engine is Anomaly
runic ether
feels the aura
glossy latch
Also I really should finish Phoebe's support build some time
But eh, I've got a better spectro team already
vernal snow
feels the aura
cant wait to override boss themes
glossy latch
My glacio team is now my weakest
wispy goblet
runic ether
heathcardo obtained
vernal snow
peak
runic ether
pilgrimage of loyalty coming up...
yo
are we getting ricardo upscale so he can keep being our rival!? ๐ฅน
vernal snow
the middle great brother ricardo gonna go so fuckin hard
wispy goblet
Velina Core Summary (I think)
With enough Wind Energy, Velina can deploy a Gale Field with held Basic.
When Velina triggers Vortex, she summons Little Wind Currents, as well as gains an Enhancement Point. With 2 Enhancement points, she summons a Gale Field instead of Little Wind.
Both Little Wind and Gale Field trigger Abloom against Windswept enemies; Gale Field Ablooms are bigger.
When Gale Field hits an enemy that is Contaminated -- that is to say, an enemy that has already been Vortexed with a non-Wind attribute on top of Windswept -- the Gale Field changes from Wind Damage to the new attribute. This is called the Dye effect. For example, if you apply Windswept, and then trigger a Vortex with Corruption, then hit the enemy with a Gale Field, the Gale Field changes to Ether damage.
Gale Field reduces both Wind Buildup RES and the Dye attribute's Buildup RES for 40s.
runic ether
i need this man to be our eternal rival
wispy goblet
Nikke Solo Raid is live
summer hornet
FIRST TEN PULL 
Man as much as I hated his guts fighting him the first time
He really is just a fun antagonist
vernal snow
He really is just a fun antagonist
hes the goat
runic ether
alright shit i am building properly the rest of the middle ids
summer hornet
Does it interrupt Mili tracks?
runic ether
probs not
but it would be so fucking funny if it did
so in this essay, heres how heathcliff, is pretty much kali
one: they both are backstreet bitches
two: they both interrupt boss tracks with their own
three: women love them both in a straight sense and a gay sense
sharp swan
I enjoyed wuwa new patch so far
runic ether
four: they both hang their weapon over their shoulder iconically
vernal snow
alright shit i am building properly the rest of the middle ids
you gonna ut4 middle don or sticking with qoh?
runic ether
i already uptied 4 middle don just now
i'll be trying both
but i dont have the ticks to level middle don
i gotta finish middle meursault and sinclair
wispy goblet
uh oh
double uh oh
so this is her normal outfit
okay I have at least three pull targets this season
maybe four or five
this is concerning
patent swift
double uh oh
lancertoria????
runic ether
okay yeah playing with heathcardo is a ton of fun
did the whole event with him middle ish middle sinclair + the heishou pack team for points in the bokgak and he even outdamaged lord lu vs the sweepers
shit the question about the envyres team...
who the hell is the 7th
once we get nursefather outis, we'll have 6
but who is the 7th id for this team
tempted to add aedd greg and call it there but
he kinda doesnt do much
i wonder if it'll be the seasonal bad end id for ryoshu tho her having gotten a wrath waw ego means its unlikely... though not impossible
wispy goblet
My upcoming ZZZ pull targets (mostly unordered)
- Promeia
- Caesar rerun
- Sunna rerun
- Aria rerun
- Velina
- Norma
- Claret
- Sigrid
- Rameille
runic ether
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew9nVnCl8AY
sunbringer's outfit there... eugh
thats gross
zzz couldnt let us see a woman with that sick ass coat she was wearing in her debut trailer
i love ya erica but damn...
cant save her losing the sideswept hair...the sick ass coat...
runic ether
suddenly, one day, in the same time frame you used to do a regular md run
you have 6 runs completed, crates all over the screen and new ids at your beck and call
wispy goblet
sunbringer's outfit there... eugh
she'll be playable
her tits are out
(real argument I saw)
runic ether
yeah and i hate that
huge downgrade
her aura? gone
not like i wasnt expecting it in some capacity but its still a shame
wispy goblet
the pull math is looking brutal for me
I need to hope everything lines up for me to minimize stretch spending
runic ether
this trailer helped my pull math at least
the only design im into so far remains sunbringer and maybe severian
no one else really stood out terribly much for me
wispy goblet
they have made Rameille even more like Dorothy
which honestly makes me less interested in pulling her
vernal snow
but who is the 7th id for this team
double slot the goat ricardo
thats the seventh member
slow raft
X
rapid bough
https://fixupx.com/ZenlessWorld/status/2049705403680796770
i was worried about her animations but as usual it was for nothing, ZZZ devs cooked as usual
don't care about norma at all but her ult is very funny
literal nuke ult
long tree
Trying out neverness to everness
Feels a bit generic so far but damn gacha is generous
sharp swan
slow raft
Theyre marketing to regi in particular 
https://vxtwitter.com/ronithecasual/status/2049741457603355014
long tree
Theyre marketing to regi in particular <:clearly:1247706297491656795>
https://v...
Lesbian or doctor wife call it
(Mylnar is a doctor wife)
slow raft
Thats right, he is my wife
slow raft
sunbringer's outfit there... eugh
Seen lots of people call this out on twitter already but i imagine it wont change just like before when a character got a downgrade like this
glossy latch
Lmao unfortunately true
Also wow there's exactly one design I care about at all in that lineup
It's actually impressive how sauceless these designs are
glossy latch
It's frustrating too because 1.X ZZZ at least had some variety
OK seeing the full list of announced characters, Roxy and the Storyteller are the only two besides Severian I'm at all curious about
Which isn't ideal
glossy latch
Yay, I can save resources to pull for the next male character in 4.x
slow raft
Maybe get a few potentials even
glossy latch
Gonna turn Silly into potential man
slow raft
In hindsight, maybe dropping zzz in january was a good time to do do it, i havent really seen anything afterwards that would make me want to play the game
slow raft
I have learned from genshin that i should not return to a gacha just for a character or else i mightve relapsed
glossy latch
I have learned from genshin that i should not return to a gacha just for a chara...
You are a wiser man than most
slow raft
I simply learn from my mistakes, tis not wisdom but experience that guides my actions
glossy latch
That in itself is wisdom
rapid bough
bro she even has rin's voice in JP
i think the designs are kinda sterile so far (too much white?) but i don't really dislike them
i've had my opinion on too many designs changed by seeing them in-game/combat so i generally try to withold judgment
velina, remielle, and sigrid interest me. rip remielle's boob belt tho, tragic
full character sheet for anyone who hasn't seen btw
remielle and sunbringer are likely our VHs of this cycle
i assume remielle is 3.1 which means one of lighter/hugo/banyue will be rerunning in 3.0
sunbringer 3.5 which means severian 3.4
patent swift
toxic cloud
That's a lot of characters
wispy goblet
velina, remielle, and sigrid interest me. rip remielle's boob belt tho, tragic
Boob belt almost certainly a skin
TTSTARINLONDON
rapid bough
i absolutely read that as "tits are in london"
toxic cloud
well skipper's comment is oddly convenient then
rapid bough
Boob belt almost certainly a skin
definitely but i'll have to see how much i like her white angelic appearance in comparison
wispy goblet
If she turns out to be angry at Sunbringer for betraying her but it turns out to be a lie for her peotection....
glossy latch
i absolutely read that as "tits are in london"
I believe the great tit is in fact a species of bird you can find in London
versed pawn
these would be the characters from patch 3.0 to 3.4 i guess
wispy goblet
slow raft
X
old galleon
https://youtu.be/vBlPdGjA6eA
Gonna use it as a catalyst for today's rolls
runic ether
Reddit
oh shit
apparently works the same in intervallo. i genuinely overpowered him without seeing this but wow...
glossy latch
True
Silly ended up quite nice
... oh yeah Blade is a nihility now
Time to see what Acheronmains are up to then
runic ether
he is a buff to her but hsr is cooked to me
idk if they could do anything to get me to play that game again
or genshin
glossy latch
Huh they are being mostly normal for once
runic ether
yea cus hes actually good for her as i said
glossy latch
Tbh HSR Im mostly sticking around for the worldbuilding and characters
... and because I hope we get Sampo SP
runic ether
the worldbuilding is still not amazing and it gets weaker per patch is my general vibe unfort
characters is a shame cus yea
i wish they gave more of a shit about their own characters
runic ether
i agree
my issue w it is that its kinda leading to nowhere
its genshin in that way with the abyss
7.5-2 spoilers
feels the aura...
https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1szl8me/he_shoulder_checked_him/
Reddit
slow raft
Stole his hair coupons and now he stole his aura #levelstothis
glossy latch
Tbh Idk that the Aeons really need to lead to anything specific
There is the superplot of Nanook I suppose
runic ether
id design this canto has been unreal
runic ether
Tbh Idk that the Aeons really need to lead to anything specific
and yet they keep using them to progress a story moving forward without actually paying that off proper
ie: long the permanence vanishing for dan heng development
adrilla falling (maybe)
teasing irontomb being made to kill nous and never doing anything with it
aha is an active participating force in the narrative as was akivili and in a sense so is the finality thanks to the stellaron hunters
fuli also involves themselves
patent swift
Tbf fuli turned out to not be real*
glossy latch
I mean I think thats fine?
Theyre part of the world, forces that are always at play, having them be involved makes sense even if there isn't a drastic change of the status quo with them
patent swift
Long the permanance and adrilla were both dead before the story started
runic ether
put a pin on that
patent swift
Long has no real need to be relevant, and adrilla is probably for a future story
Irontomb's plot gave us the origins of the aeons and also had us meet part of zandar
And put the other zandars' eyes on the express
glossy latch
Idrilla is missing rather than dead no?
runic ether
Theyre part of the world, forces that are always at play, having them be involve...
the issue is that this characterizes them and kinda humanizes them way too much for the concept
patent swift
Idrilla is missing rather than dead no?
Presumed dead since an aeon can't really go "missing"
Same as akivili
runic ether
idt we have ever really had a real "oh this is just alien as hell" from any aeon and the more they talk and explain them or have them involve themselves... the more they lose
glossy latch
Aeons cant really die either
glossy latch
They can be subsumed but as long as there is no concept that absorbs them, they exist
patent swift
Tbf dead aeons can also come back (at least temporarily) if penacony is to be believed
glossy latch
I mean with Tazzyronth its also unclear if they're actually dead
patent swift
3.x told us fuli literally doesn't exist
glossy latch
Their body was shattered but they might still exist
patent swift
And the entire rememberance path is basically just grabbing power from the future
glossy latch
idt we have ever really had a real "oh this is just alien as hell" from any aeon...
To be fair, the Aeons we have directly interacted with in the story have been the most human ones so far
patent swift
Honestly hoping 5.x is the nihility
runic ether
3.x told us fuli literally doesn't exist
yeah and thats kinda stupid
patent swift
It
runic ether
To be fair, the Aeons we have directly interacted with in the story have been th...
and thats a shame
patent swift
It really isn't?
runic ether
idt they should be at all
patent swift
Its a sick ass concept to have fuli just not exist
glossy latch
I fear 5.X is gonna be Lan rather than any of the other ones
Im hoping for Erudition
glossy latch
Ive wanted him since his leak in 1.2
glossy latch
Yeah
He was leaked super early
We think Dr. Ratio may originally have been Screwllum in fact
slow raft
He was leaked *super* early
And then delayed forever for some reason or another
Idt we even know why
glossy latch
Nope
patent swift
So he can aurafarm even harder
I wish there was merch of him I'd love to buy some
slow raft
I mean my theory is that hes not human or female enough for them to want to release him
patent swift
Have we had any non-humans be playable
glossy latch
Not quite no
slow raft
Technically the furries count as non human
patent swift
Closest is the two vidyadra ig
glossy latch
And Clara has Svarog
patent swift
Clara has the 2nd best character in hsr
glossy latch
Either way, I do enjoy HSR well enough for now
runic ether
Closest is the two vidyadra ig
barely counts
glossy latch
But nothing is beating WuWa rn
runic ether
i still find it egregious that in a city that bans ai/robots and other non-humans, we have gotten more "actual robots and furries" than the space-faring game with different planets and galaxies
patent swift
Its so wierd to me that the turn based rpg is the one that has the least variety of characters
slow raft
Dont worry, zzz is also working really hard on catching up with the lack of diversity
runic ether
archer does not count
patent swift
He does
patent swift
I know and I do not care
slow raft
Oh i thought you meant arlan lmao
long tree
He has no more melanin
runic ether
arlan is the only one who really counts...
patent swift
Oh i thought you meant arlan lmao
I said two
glossy latch
Hey I remembered Arlan
Mostly because he's the first character to have a skill that doesnt require SP
patent swift
Arlan is like nekomata both are the worst character in the game because hoyo are racist
slow raft
Someone recently pointed arlans skill names out to me and that was kinda funny
slow raft
Along with the fact that the only black character in the game has electric powers
glossy latch
By Hoyo standards he is
slow raft
^
patent swift
Reminds me of how much better tb's design would be with melanin
wispy goblet
Is he at least MJ black?
long tree
Is now a good time to talk about kaeya?
glossy latch
long tree
glossy latch
long tree
Its funny how every time kaeya appears he gets whiter
glossy latch
Reminds me of how much better tb's design would be with melanin
Huh, I'm not sure on that actually
long tree
Like they couldn't have been less subtle
runic ether
not that project moon is perfect in this... but it is way better than it has any right to
glossy latch
I think the TB being pale to match with their silver hair really does work given their backstory
On the other hand
Aventurine is literally from a desert planet
... I was gonna say "why is he white" but then I remembered the slavery part
Ok I see why they made him white
glossy latch
I mean yes
But I don't trust the average american dev to approach that topic with the nuance it deserves
I doubt chinese devs would fare much better
patent swift
Have hoyo's devs even seen a brown person irl
slow raft
i remember twitter when it was revealed that jade uses a whip
glossy latch
I ... really never thought about that
patent swift
not that project moon is perfect in this... but it is way better than it has any...
Wdym project moon has characters with melanin
long tree
Do you know what game had good PoC representation to the point where their first new character was middle eastern? DRAGALIA LO-
runic ether
our fauvists are black and furries
glossy latch
Also tbh Hoyo games need more characters with Melatonin too
Where is my sleepy representation
runic ether
heathcliff is black
long tree
Also tbh Hoyo games need more characters with Melatonin too
Doesnt like all hoyo games have a sleepy rep
patent swift
patent swift
All I know about limbus is from the autism rambles my girlfriend does
long tree
Genshin has layla, hsr has ashviel, misha and jing yuan as well as having an entire arc for a sleeping city
slow raft
an autistic limbus player? why i never
wispy goblet
ZZZ doesn't have a true sleepy rep yet
glossy latch
Ashveil is supposed to be sleepy?
long tree
Elen Joe is like the closest in zzz
runic ether
sharp swan
Cinema
slow raft
our fauvists are black and furries
im reminded that this also applies to zilu kind of
glossy latch
I really should catch up on WuWas story
And by that I mean do last patchs and this patchs story
Maybe this weekend
runic ether
im reminded that this also applies to zilu kind of
oh shit true!
digital marlin
And by that I mean do last patchs and this patchs story
You should the last battle in this patch was hyped
glossy latch
You should the last battle in this patch was hyped
Oh did you finish the story?
runic ether
tbf given zilu's usual attire... i dont disbelieve her skin being ashy like this
but olivier has no excuse
slow raft
i do wish theyd confirm zilu as lesbian tbh
maybe im too yuripilled but like look at her and zigong
runic ether
dont they sleep together in spring cultivation?
digital marlin
Oh did you finish the story?
Yes
slow raft
i do believe they are roommates, yes
patent swift
Project moon having characters with melanin is still crazy to me korean gachas are like
The most racist
runic ether
pjm has been pretty good at having good mixed cast
our sinner team is balanced
6 men, 6 women, 1 enby
runic ether
they come from a pretty rich variety of backgrounds and they pay attention to make sure they accent them and/or give them quirks regarding their nationality inspiration
ie: heathcliff says color wrong
slow raft
Project moon having characters with melanin is still crazy to me korean gachas a...
well yeah, youd have to be insane to make a wuthering heights adaptation where heathcliff doesnt have any melanin
runic ether
faust lets her german show a few times
ishmael is the least violent american you have ever seen
slow raft
they did remove gregor saying verwandlung in the prolouge when they rewrote it
slow raft
ishmael is the least violent american you have ever seen
i did see nsfw art of sayo ishmael once with "warning: american" as a caption
patent swift
well yeah, youd have to be insane to make a wuthering heights adaptation where h...
I have never read wuthering heights so I have no clue why this is true
Wait no my girlfriend told me one time actually nvm
runic ether
uncultured... wait arent you like 12
patent swift
I know
patent swift
uncultured... wait arent you like 12
I'M 18
slow raft
oh i was doing a snide comment cause of the recent movie adaptation
runic ether
white heathcliff is my sleep paralysis demon
anyways the a big point of that novel is how othered he is and feels and him being white detracts from that
patent swift
I don't think I've read any of the sinners' books actually
runic ether
he is explicitly described as being darker skinned
slow raft
I don't think I've read any of the sinners' books actually
no faust, no demian, no metamorphosis, no moby dick, nothing?
patent swift
No
slow raft
thats crazy
slow raft
the odyssee?
runic ether
had a purpose...
slow raft
i know my experience of reading it when i was 7 is a bit off from the norm but that ones a classic
runic ether
i get ppl not having read li sang's works, dreams of the red chamber or hell screen
patent swift
i'd categorize nelly as black too
Just say brown smh
patent swift
the odyssee?
Odyssey and no I haven't read it
runic ether
but im p sure moby dick, demian, and crime and punishment are not like
far out there from some school programs
glossy latch
Now I can focus on getting Phrolovas signature
... although now I also wonder if I go for Denia or Hiyuki for the regular rolls Ill get
slow raft
we read metamorphosis in school but reading kafka in german class is kinda more common than in english class id imagine
runic ether
Just say brown smh
im saying black w intention
brown ppl/cultural rep are a thing in pjm too such as queequeg and starbuc
patent swift
Oh ok
Sorry I'm just sick of people literally only refering to people with melanin as black
slow raft
yknow personally i havent read quite a few of the sinners books
runic ether
im mexican
slow raft
true, i am whiter than snow
slow raft
yknow personally i havent read quite a few of the sinners books
at some point i seriously need to read dantes inferno
glossy latch
Granted just statistically most people in here are white
runic ether
thats right
glossy latch
Anyway having Mornye means I have to pause getting Phoebes Echoes up to snuff to get her materials and echoes ๐
The grind never stops
runic ether
at some point i seriously need to read dantes inferno
ngl... its...
actually do recommend reading
slow raft
maybe if i feel in the mood for more self insert fanfiction
slow raft
i still find it egregious that in a city that bans ai/robots and other non-human...
btw i didnt say this earlier but the fact that we got albina faust before hsr got screwllum is absolutely wild
runic ether
callisto too
slow raft
i always forget the baldass goondroid cause he has those robes
mental acorn
arknights even got another mechanical humanoid after tin man
digital marlin
How does it compare to 3.1?
I think its great not as good as 3.1 but close
glossy latch
Nice