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wispy goblet
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it's better
but most people report Steam Oven as performing better

rapid bough
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yes, but only rank 1

wispy goblet
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40+ batteries later

wispy goblet
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actually

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hrmmmm

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I'd have to feel it out
I'm not sure

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Zhao will have to wait
not getting the rolls I need

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and I gotta refill on materials

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story time

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ZZZ STORY (NON)SPOILERS
||A-rank identified||

rapid bough
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don't you have work in the morning, how you starting the chapter at 11pm

wispy goblet
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||okay a little discretion Belle please||

wispy goblet
rapid bough
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...my point still stands

wispy goblet
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I'll be fine

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if I get tired I'll finish tomorrow

runic ether
rapid bough
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mockingbird comp pog

wispy goblet
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ZZZ STORY SORTA SPOILERS
Her VA... that's gotta be ||Amber Lee Connors. She sounds just like Maxwell.||

runic ether
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yea zzz leaks kinda posted it but it def is

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hmmmm ig this can actually go in video games...

wispy goblet
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ZZZ really trying the "big booba" trick of making this next wave of characters marketable

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Ramiel also has pretty large honkers

runic ether
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yixuan also launched pretty big tbh

rapid bough
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we've known ramiel had some milk tanks since the patch trailer

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same with velina

wispy goblet
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||little too girlfailure to gaslight successfully||

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Cissia is really winning me over
I hope I can pull her
I probably will be unable to

summer hornet
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Going through the branching routes of the Nikke VN event

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Actually an insane amount of branches

digital marlin
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that goofy snake slithering got a chuckle from me

summer hornet
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I was trying to minmax the Privaty side, but somehow I’ve stumbled upon like a half dozen Arcana routes hidden in the Privaty route? It’s wild

rapid bough
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and we're only on part 1 lol

summer hornet
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I assume we’re hardlocked to “normal” endings until part 2?

rapid bough
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nope, part 1 has true endings to find

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as well as normal and bad

summer hornet
rapid bough
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broadly speaking there's two main branches, teacher and student

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and both arcana and privaty have true and normal ends within those branches

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so there's actually 2 true ends for both of them in part 1

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i assume it'll be the same for part 2

summer hornet
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Yeah that makes more sense, I’d kinda just mentally assigned teacher as Privaty and student as Arcana lol

rapid bough
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well that's accurate, the teacher/student distinction is whichever you choose for the commander at the beginning

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you can either roleplay a teacher or a student

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which of course changes the relationship dynamic with arcana/privaty (peer vs superior)

digital marlin
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story is cleared on my end

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nice and short

rapid bough
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did you just spam skip that shit jesus

digital marlin
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nah it was pretty short

summer hornet
rapid bough
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i went student + arcana route and got her true end on the first try without any min/maxxing lol

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getting the student + privaty true end seemed way more complex

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i haven't done any of the teacher routes

summer hornet
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I've spent all my time in the teacher routes

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Got Normal Privaty ending, but in trying to find True Privaty ending (ig that's the name for it here)

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I KEEP FINDING ARCANA FLAGS

rapid bough
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the arcana agenda is non-negotiable

wispy goblet
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I got the true Teacher x Arcana ending first run

rapid bough
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i do wonder how canon will treat this event

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not that it matters too much since most events aren't really referenced in canon and sorta exist as their own self-contained stories

summer hornet
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If it ends like the Valentine's Day event I'm gonna throw hands

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But yeah, some.sort of quasi canon seems likely

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Aka, one of the normal endings

rapid bough
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i can say it's already on a much better path than dazzling cupid (the last "choose a girl" event) took

summer hornet
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It was really bad, huh

rapid bough
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you just had to choose naga or tia and the one not chosen was sort of left out to dry, not in the "forgotten" way but in the "turned down and left alone" way

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in a real romance VN i get those sort of difficult choices have to be made

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but it was really out of place in a game like nikke which leans so hard into the harem stuff lol

summer hornet
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Oof

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Tbf it seems like Privaty kinda just... Vanishes during the Arcana routes

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And vice versa

old galleon
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as someone who likes both naga and tia, their event was not great

rapid bough
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yeah that's basically true

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this event avoids the "competition" that defined the naga/tia event

old galleon
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just felt out of place in this game

rapid bough
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at least so far

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we'll see what happens in part 2 but the direction seems pretty clear from part 1 so i'm optimistic they'll keep the momentum

rapid bough
old galleon
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i like naga more than tia too, but tia has sorta grown on me

rapid bough
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i don't like tia's character archetype, even if there's more depth to it than is immediately apparent

old galleon
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fair

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unrelated but naga's gacha skin is another one of my favorites in this game

summer hornet
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DAISHORIIIII

rapid bough
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one of the several gacha skins that i have had zero second thoughts about

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been a permanent lobby screen slot ever since i got it

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i just wish the voiceline attached to it ("just wait until i become an adult") didn't make me think i was gonna get put on a list

summer hornet
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||Also the fade to black… definitely implies the existence of D4C||

rapid bough
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i don't even know why they translated it that way, i'm pretty sure it's "just wait until i graduate" in every other language lol

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diabolical from EN

toxic cloud
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Holy

summer hornet
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Moreso Implicit Illicit Intimacy Initiated Consensually lol

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But D4C has the easier analogy

toxic cloud
wispy goblet
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oof owie

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I've been on a pretty bad run lately

runic ether
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lycaon

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also wow ppl are horny for the new sexy wolf man

timber sigil
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@rapid bough @idle grove GFL official merch site just launched

versed pawn
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Let's see if I can lucksack again

old galleon
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so something interesting i'm seeing with the solo raid

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most of the top rankers i've seen are running maid mast with diesel, rather than rapi

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specifically, teh comps look like this

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x brid/moran/snow white heavy arms/x diesel/m mast
crown/little mermaid/rapi red hood/helm/privaty

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the diesel team is very much so gapping the rapi team in team damage at teh top ranks

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i would love to see the damage screens from their runs bc i have to assume a large part of that is that snow is a much more competent neutral attacker than helm or privaty

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diesel also probably outdamages rapi with mast support, but i suspect snow is just that good

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also as of whenever enikk last updated and as of when i last checked a few minutes ago, na top ranker is 33rd in the world right now

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lot of time for that to change but

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lol

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rest of the world is going hard with still a lot of time to go

timber sigil
timber sigil
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@idle grove oh fuck this is huge if you've played Reverse Collapse

old galleon
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how many times do i have to teach the game this lesson

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anyway, cetie is pretty easy even in normal circumstances, but being able to 2 turn now that i have myrus es is nice

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took a couple tries to figure out but hey

silver osprey
toxic cloud
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Sure thing

silver osprey
toxic cloud
slow raft
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Limbus company getting a playable robot before screllum clearly

old galleon
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saved freebies for banner change, one 10 roll gave me light feena

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not even a summer unit lol

slow raft
glossy latch
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Just 4 more speed and my Yao Guang is done

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... time to wait 2 patches to actually use her lmao

slow raft
silver osprey
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Callisto Hong Lu pog

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He can finally get a bleed ID

slow raft
lusty egret
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OwO

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Endless Watlz not on Christmas? Heresy

mortal iron
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Anni banners probably 00 and wing zero

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And tallgeese 3

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00 raiser + awakened setsuna
Wing zero EW + Pilot suit heero
Tallgeese 3 + preventer wind
For the URs

idle grove
idle grove
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just been reading through events while I've got a week off

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it's genuinely peak

timber sigil
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ayyy

timber sigil
idle grove
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the highlight is the commander has fucking earned his medals

timber sigil
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@idle grove bro this woman uses every chance she gets to aura farm

idle grove
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she's wanted it since gfl1

timber sigil
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it's not even just that cutscene

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it's also her one liners that go extremely hard

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like this 1

idle grove
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I highkey hope she gets a mod in the future that gets her out of the mech

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like how klukai gets a key that gives her a robot companion

timber sigil
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KYLE IT'S ALL GONE THEY'VE TAKEN IT ALL KYLE WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS

timber sigil
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ik Zhaohui is the official leader of Monsoon Squad but why's it feel like Daiyan is the real leader

timber sigil
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@idle grove wow

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that was

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definitely something else

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this event felt like a return to the original GFL events in terms of story content

wispy goblet
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“ For the Delulus!” 🖤🪽

I can’t believe I get to announce that I voice Nangong Yu, leader of #AOD in Zenless Zone Zero! 🥹 I had so much fun recording for this snarky, goofy girlypop and I can’t begin to express how much I love her! I hope you love her too! 🖤🪽

summer hornet
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Time to get back up to speed in G Gen Eternal

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All for 00

summer hornet
slow raft
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Oh to have a god dragon cosplay as your maid

summer hornet
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That bit in the Degenbrecher event where she used Degen and the Victorian spy to re-carve her statue lmao

idle grove
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it was pure distilled gfl

timber sigil
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you said you wanted to talk about it yea?

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what specifically did u wanna talk about

idle grove
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just wanted to know your thoughts on it

timber sigil
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ah gotchu

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overall as I said event was peak GFL, really felt like a return to form

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the storyline and how much it connected to Reverse Collapse was really cool to see esp as someone that's played enough of the game to get the connections

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and how the game's story timeline is gradually forming to result in what happens in RC

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great to see a lot of returning characters as well even as sprites and voices like ||AK-12, RPK, Ange|| , Kevin and mentions of others from GFL1 like Mona/SP9

idle grove
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what makes me most curious is how ||there are no third gen dolls in RC. Like does it just lead nowhere or is it just a case of "they're not involved in this story||

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||also means I can start posting the "who is orphelune" memes||

timber sigil
idle grove
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ah sure

timber sigil
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but also RC was developed and launched first before GFL1/GFL2

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so from a story stand point ||I'm going to guess that something happens later in GFL2's story to involve no Gen 3 dolls in RC||

idle grove
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yeah ik the logical reasons why

timber sigil
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anyways back to Corpo

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the introduced characters in Chilnoveig, Orphie and Igla were pretty good, Igla especially

idle grove
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fully agree they were amazing characters

timber sigil
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once the scene in ||the lab with Orphie, Chilno and Igla was happening, and Igla still trying to convince Orphie to continue w/Project Eden did I understand that she was tunnel visioned into protecting her from everything at all costs, and that she wasn't a bad person at the end||

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||really sad to see Igla's fate after reading the extra logs you get from the side modes I really hope we can give her a happy end in the future||

idle grove
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||she isn't a bad person at all she's just convinced that the best way to help Orphie is to realise her dream even if it ends up being a nightmare||

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||and she's willing to do the things Orphie will never do to make sure her dream succeeds||

timber sigil
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Chilno was entertaining as hell tho, ontop of that they really did a good job of making her smug + absolutely insane enough to where I genuinely did wanna deck her in the face for her atrocities

idle grove
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oh yeah she played her role amazingly, the mad scientist who is clearly not mad and is perfectly sane and intelligent

timber sigil
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||the scene with her taunting Helena about her origin + about killing the other 42 Helena clones was already proof enough tbh||

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other standouts in the event were ||Alva's arc with accepting herself and her own flaws, coming to terms with Ange's departure and finally being at peace with herself and her inner struggles||, I found it extremely relatable and made me appreciate her character more, especially after I went back to GFL1 and read through her MOD story about being the prototype of the DEFY squad

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she's easily shot up to one of my favourites of the franchise because of how relatable and grounded her inner conflict is

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and ofc Voy stealing the show with half her lines/scenes

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I'm excited to see where the story goes from here w/Helen and Phaetusa's event + Loreley and Cheyanne's event

glossy latch
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Sigrikas weapon is maxed out

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Time to hit the echo mines nyaruhodo

idle grove
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I really hope we get like a chain of corposant level events now

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corposantposting begins

timber sigil
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||I'm also a little sad at Orphie's fate tbh, poor girl just wanted to see a better world in her lifetime||

old galleon
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taking my first crack at solo raid now

timber sigil
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oh actually 1 more thing I forgot to mention

old galleon
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rapi team got like 3.3 billion score on its own

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(which for my level isn't awful but i could probably do better mast optimization)

timber sigil
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@idle grove ||the secretary in the post credits scene being AK-12 had me speechless for a moment||

timber sigil
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when she spoke I was like 'this voice sounds really familiar who tf is it' then it hit me once the scene cut to ||Alva/Voy on the other end of the phone||

timber sigil
idle grove
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well.. "see"

timber sigil
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I mean she's most likely gonna be part of the next major event that happens after GrAlter/Soppo

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considering they've teased G41/Fulyn, Welrod, AR-15 and now AK-12

silver osprey
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Cocaine bear can't break cement clearly

timber sigil
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but yea this event reminded me why I've stuck with this franchise for 8 years now

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feels weird to think about the fact that I've been wrapped up in this franchise since my senior year of high school all because I saw cute girls with firearms

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lmao

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anyways tldr story peak characters peak i love mica team and their story telling capabilities

mental acorn
silver osprey
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Ayabe when opera:

old galleon
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diesel/snow team got 2b

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and based on my heavily unoptimized setup and play, snow is definitely a huge contribute to top ranker damage

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diesel had 900m, snow had 730m (on neutral)

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and my snow isn't even limit broken at all

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what a fuckin monster

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easily comparable to rapi on neutral

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aight, time to go learn how to play mihara with miranda

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died early, plus doing this w/o mouse and keyboard is a bit annoying

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still 776m, which isn't great but could have been worse

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aight, screens incoming

idle grove
timber sigil
old galleon
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fighter origin really has changed solos

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helps that in dark's case s catura fuels it to insane levels

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and that, you know, ereshkigal is a weapon that exists

idle grove
versed pawn
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small zzz picture spoiler

runic ether
mortal iron
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@lusty egret @summer hornet

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ive never heard of the 00 raiser referred to as final battle type

summer hornet
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Yeah that's an odd distinction

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But I guess it means it'll have the quantum teleport attack

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Maybe a 00 -> Exia Repair transformation if they wanna be really dramatic

mortal iron
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oomfie is tenacious

summer hornet
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Tenacious vs Tough as Nails is a

mortal iron
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i dunno what shippujinrai means

summer hornet
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Thin distinction

mortal iron
summer hornet
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Doesn't make much more sense to me tbh

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I don't think Exia or Amuro ever did a big kick like that

silver osprey
mortal iron
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okay so after anni banner, im saving all my stuff for stargazer

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i pray it's a dual banner with strike noir EX and Stargazer EX

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they deserve EX units

old galleon
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three 10 rolls today, gave me princess long ji summon dupe

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and cygames' favorite zodiac in a yukata

silver osprey
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Is she going to summon another copy of herself clearly

pastel bear
silver osprey
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Arknights

old galleon
slow raft
old galleon
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just missing her original version (probably getting her in a few days) and her halloween version (which probably ain't happening ever)

summer hornet
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Big fan of the rat?

old galleon
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not especially; she's alright but not even among my favorite zodiacs let alone characters

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i just happened to pull both her summer and yukata versions on free rolls over time, her r version is free, and her original version is available on the zodiac ticket

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and i have most of the regular zodiacs, with vikala being the best of the bunch that i dont' have

long tree
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My main issue with the zodiac in gbf is most of them are underage iirc which makes what they want to do with them really weird

idle grove
long tree
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Most if not all of them have romantic connections to the mc and most have summer skins which are Hahaa

idle grove
old galleon
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the ones i can immediately tell you are not underage are anila, kumbhira, makura, payila, and indala

sandira is dubious since she's physically 13 but mentally 121 for plot reasons

andira, vikala, catura, and cidala are all obviously underage

and i don't immediately remember mahira or vajra's ages

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mahira is 16 and vajra is 14, so if you treat under 18 as underage, then they both are

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of the ones who are of age, from oldest to youngest it's payila (25), indala (23), makura (20), kumbhira (19), anila (18)

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of the ones who are underage, it's mahira (16), catura (15), vajra and vikala (14), sandira <dubious> (13/121), cidala (12), andira (10)

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as for "zodiacs with summer skins", it'd be faster to list the ones who don't have actual playable summer alts (yet, since zodiac anni event had a beach episode)

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and those would be cidala, makura, payila, indala, and sandira

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all of the first seven zodiacs have a summer alt

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incidentally, s catura is super super core in dark right now, so yeah, that's fun

old galleon
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i hate that you're right, but at least one of her gacha weapons is a long, thin sword

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Granblue Fantasy Wiki

This adorable whip was created by Vikala in hopes of bringing smiles to many a parade onlooker. Thanks to the divine general's unique design sense, it resembles something more akin to a cat toy. While it's perfect for honing feline hunting instincts, it sets Vikala's rodent companions on edge.

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(this one's for her summer version)

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(ignore that the description says it's a whip)

copper steppe
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thats hillarious lmao

runic ether
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canto 8 and spring cultivation spoiler from dante's notes. image above related

idle grove
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god this song is so peak

rapid bough
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it took me until playing qiuyuan with galbrena to realize that galbrena's ult is considered echo skill damage

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i was sitting there wondering why the fuck it started hitting like a truck filled with smaller trucks as soon as i put qiuyuan into the team

wispy goblet
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ZZZ 2.7 STORY SPOILERS
||ayo this lady just walked up and invaded my privacy she really is Maxwell||

summer hornet
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Was in the middle of EX runs for the 08th MS Team event

lusty egret
glossy latch
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Ashveil obtained nyaruhodo

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Time to save for Evanescia I suppose

old galleon
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oh hey, found a showcase

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at least in this run, snow did like 1.8b and brid did around 1b

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so pretty significant damage from the sub-dps and support

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about what i expected from snow, but brid's self damage was very high too

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also, na top ranker is 48th worldwide now

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people really are just waiting until the last minute with this one, aren't they

wispy goblet
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okay
finished the 2.7 story
pretty good

old galleon
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looking at nikke usage rates for the top rankers on enikk, and uh

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asuka rip

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3.7% usage in top teams

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dkw is similarly in a bad position, only 11.4% usage

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b1s mainly being used are the usual suspects

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little mermaid, moran, miranda being the big 3, tove for shotgun team

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well i say that, but liter actually has slightlly more usage than moran somehow

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99.7 vs 99.3

wispy goblet
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oh
the Season 2 movie dates aren't even semi-permanent
that's a major bummer

old galleon
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someone i wasn't expecting to have as much usage as she does is modernia

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i expected something like 70-80% for her, she's at 98.7

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enikk appears to be counting rei (ayanami) and rei (student) to be the same unit bc they have identical listed usage (no one should be using student rei)

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bruh liberalio has more usage than asuka

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lmao

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worst part is she's a collab unit so the odds of any sort of upgrade, favorite item, or the like are approximately in the negatives

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who the fuck is using arcana (og) and isabel in this raid

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they each have 1% usage, i assume as some sort of filler for an incomplete shotgun comp

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okay this is some galaxy brain shit

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there are three top rankers using the yandere squad

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the 46th ranker has them in their highest damage comp lol

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arcana/x diesel/isabel/x brid/moran

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i have no idea wtf they're on but their comp got 7.5b

summer hornet
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The repullable guaranteed UR banner is already up in G Gen Eternal btw

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It functions a little differently than the other ones; instead of daily rolls (continuously discarding one of two options every day till you decide on one you like) you can just reroll it infinitely

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Ahhhhh

It seems like the banner is almost entirely nonlimited units tho

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Lmao

old galleon
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next gbf story event is called "momvasion"

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why

summer hornet
wispy goblet
old galleon
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i think this might be my fastest six dragons solo clear in terms of turns

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fediel should also be less than 10 but i haven't run it in a while

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galleon is 13 turns

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wilnas is 10

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ewiyar solo i need to be a bit less lazy bc i have to turn percy's s2 off and only use it at ewiyar's big nuke trigger

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so idfk how many turns that on eis

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9 turns on fediel, so i was righ

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anyway i don't think i've ever full auto'd wamdus bc the comp that shows up in my host is definitely a burst comp i'd call backup with

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so this'll be fun

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wamdus took 10 turns

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and ewiyar took 8

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so galleon is my slowest, but also probably one of my more stable ones

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ewiyar doesn't feel super stable, even with timing percy s2 for the 40% trigger

timber sigil
slow raft
sharp swan
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icy flicker
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lost the 50 50 flooshed

wispy goblet
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Did you lose or win the first 50/50

slow raft
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"Here at rhodes island we're committed to equality for all and to bring the world into a peaceful slumber, here is our field operator: the ghost of nationalist social darwinism, you might remeber her from orchestrating the downfall of liberation movements."

QRT: MayaTree0
Everyone is screaming Talulah as if they didn't just tease the Koshelna/Black Deathless Snake playable a month or so ago

versed pawn
wispy goblet
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Even though breastaurants are closing IRL, I see they're still alive and well in New Eridu

icy flicker
summer hornet
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(I like her. And it made sense. But it's very funny)

astral drift
glossy latch
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Ok 2 good and 1 mediocre echo for Sigrika

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I just need 2 more decent echoes and I can start leveling her skills

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And then

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Violence

old galleon
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the evil gave me m3 tiamat anima, the roulette gave me two 10 rolls and some lucilius zero mats, and the rolls gave me a gold moon

summer hornet
long tree
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FUCK

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Also putting the glorious king gilgamesh next to trash is crazy

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||(Ragebait designed specifically for regi lets see if he falls for it)||

silver osprey
old galleon
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i've been out of the anime loop for a bit, strange fake got to the "gil gets rekt" part?

pastel bear
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yes

old galleon
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fun

pastel bear
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present company included, of course

summer hornet
old galleon
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pulled purple mold, got a viper dupe

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so she's mlb now

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her lobby wallpaper is

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uh interesting

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i guess is one way to put it

silver osprey
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I like Rin Cheems

pastel bear
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like I do like rin as a character but I swear some rin fans will downplay the other heroines and it's really annoying

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saber is still the GOAT, I'm sorry

digital marlin
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I think Rin is neat

summer hornet
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I think Saber and Sakura are both compelling for different reasons

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But I also still think Rin is the best

old galleon
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i like all 3; i have favorites but don't dislike any of them

silver osprey
#

Sakura is goated in CCC

digital marlin
#

I will be honest with you in fate itself I didn't get attached to heroines

#

H/A is where they get more interesting to me

old galleon
#

usually i can find something to like about most of the heroines in the nasu vns

pastel bear
#

I'll always be a fsn route truther

old galleon
#

then ther'es akiha, who i find annoying for some reason

pastel bear
#

thank you, saber

summer hornet
#

Indeed, they are all heroines

#

Even Satsuki

old galleon
#

sacchin route when

pastel bear
#

please don't talk about tsukihime in my presence

#

the more I think about tsukihime the angrier I get at nasu

old galleon
#

can we at least agree that akiha is annoying

pastel bear
#

she's goated (in melty blood)

long tree
#

I'm just very tsundere adverse, and rin is like outbreak patient #3 so she gets shit from me for it... also fans keep on saying she has big thighs and or butt when she's flat as shit in both regards

pastel bear
#

tsukihime legit plagiarized so much from hellsing though it's insane

pastel bear
pastel bear
#

tfw nasu creates the only good singularity for fgo on accident

#

it's an actual premise that uses arthurian lore to deliver an emotional payoff and ask an important question

long tree
#

Tfw nasu realises the media he made to accommodate his giantess fetish produces actually good stories

runic ether
digital marlin
#

🔥

old galleon
pastel bear
#

the best fsn heroine is shinji

old galleon
#

i miss when bait was good

runic ether
#

🏳️‍⚧️ ?

#

estrogen would save her

long tree
copper steppe
pastel bear
#

there was a planned shinji route in the original vn

runic ether
#

i didnt

pastel bear
#

the shirou shinji orange hair x blue hair yaoi could've been real

digital marlin
#

No

summer hornet
#

GIVE ME ISSEI

pastel bear
#

I'm surrounded by fake demons

copper steppe
#

to be honest i don’t think many people would willingly go on the route of the guy who did very bad things to his sister

summer hornet
#

You don't understand the anger and sorrow when I triggered his (Issei's) bad end for the first time

digital marlin
#

i wouldnt have said anything if you mentioned anyone else but shinji

pastel bear
#

mainly because shirou's character would usually be completely incompatible with someone like shinji

digital marlin
pastel bear
#

it'd probably be the most interesting route by far

copper steppe
#

no cap?

pastel bear
#

no cap

summer hornet
#

I mean Shinji and Shirou were old friends

pastel bear
#

if you consider how the existing routes in fsn are the heroines interacting with shirou's hero complex in varying ways and how he grows through them then shinji would be a crazy route

#

suicidal ideation by way of heroism interacting with someone most would consider completely irredeemable

summer hornet
#

You're not wrong

pastel bear
#

not only for a couple interactions but a continuous and prolonged exposure to each other

summer hornet
#

But it could also be reductively labeled as toxic yaoi

copper steppe
#

technically that character exists in the form of kirei who is the literal inverse of shirou in ever possible way

pastel bear
#

yeah but shinji is closer to shirou's age

copper steppe
#

they don’t say that hf is also kirei route since you engage with him in a very more personal level

pastel bear
#

imagine someone you grew up with turning into that

#

kirei existed long before shirou and exists as an already present force by the time the VN starts

digital marlin
pastel bear
#

well obviously we'd have to cut out the sister diddler parts, maybe make him more of a benign neglectful sibling than an actively harmful one

#

coerced into inaction through patriarchy, family, and fear but still always had a choice to protect his sister from zouken

#

sorta like berserker's master in zero

digital marlin
#

skipping the sister parts dude was already the kinda person who was sicing his servant into other innocent people just to get Mana without regret and escalating it further on

pastel bear
#

well that's a good point to jump off of

#

a good writer would be able to elaborate on the psychology and emotions of that mindset without defaulting to "I am so evil. I am so evil. I am so evil."

#

shirou's heroism manifests in big, grandiose displays of bravery and just sort of a blanket "I will be a hero of justice" and HF already expands on the concept of "okay but will you be a negative utilitarian bum like your father or will you be a normal person and help this girl"

#

what if he wants to protect shinji because of sakura? many ideas indeed

#

obviously in this rewrite shinji and sakura's relationship would be a shake healthier (not a high bar I'll grant you) yet still a bit strained and there's good material here

#

of course this is still dwarfed by my Sonic route fanfiction Fate/stay night: Knight of the Wind

summer hornet
#

i do unironically remember reading a Sonic/Fate fanfic the better part of a decade ago

#

naturally, it never finished

pastel bear
#

then you'll love mine when I get around to writing it

silver osprey
rapid bough
astral drift
idle grove
rapid bough
#

god these arcana story chapters are really giving me diabetes

#

it's all too sweet man

#

this whole event (when on the right paths) really feels like extended bond stories with arcana/privaty, it is supremely blessed

#

i also came to an abrupt realization about nangong

#

i pulled for dialyn without hesitation when she released despite not being very enthusiastic about her (granted her design doesn't give me the ick like nangong's)

#

nangong is basically dialyn for anomaly so i should probably just get her

wispy goblet
#

it's a three week event, right?

#

I'll catch up at some point

rapid bough
#

the nikke event? yes

rapid bough
wispy goblet
#

better than I did

rapid bough
#

30 pulls later she is complete

digital marlin
rapid bough
#

i knew her VA last patch

digital marlin
#

i know that

rapid bough
#

from the first word she said i knew she was anis and have made no mystery it's my favorite part about her lol

#

unfortunately because this was a spur of the moment thing, i didn't prefarm for nangong at all

#

but i'm not in any rush to use her so w/e

wispy goblet
rapid bough
#

LMAO

#

my beloved

#

mfw nangong is super OP and i have to pull for her despite my misgivings with her design

digital marlin
#

i feel like the VA speaking out on how much she loved her would infleunce your decision more

#

also speaking of using her i held off on doing SD till i got her so i can use her there

old galleon
digital marlin
#

i was planning to use her with Yanagi only to realize the bosses either have ther or electric resistance

wispy goblet
#

tbh I still haven't quite figured out how to use her

#

routing her, especially in stun
still feels pretty awkward

rapid bough
#

i really like anis and so does michelle marie and that's a symbiotic relationship that makes me like both of them more

#

me liking michelle marie makes me like nangong more, but not enough more that i think michelle marie loving her would affect my opinion that much

#

in other words, a VA liking their character only moves my needle if it confirms my biases toward also liking that character nyaruhodo

digital marlin
#

went in with Yidhari team for SD and got dissatisfied with the result in the middle and decided to get her Wengine

#

one ten roll

wispy goblet
#

now you're tempting me

#

my options are

  • try for Yidhari sig, then Promeia
  • try for Cissia, then Promeia
  • bank and guarantee Promeia
rapid bough
#

yidhari blessed us both

#

i don't think i'm getting her sig tho

#

i got insanely lucky ripping yidhari in 20 but pulling for nangong isn't something i was originally planning to do so i'm 100 pulls drier than anticipated

wispy goblet
#

I have W5 Grill O'Wisp which is basically her next best option, equivalent to Yixuan sig on her
but her sig is like a 15%+ team damage improvement....

rapid bough
#

my decision might hinge on how much i end up liking cissia post-story

#

but i'm definitely planning on pulling promeia next patch at the very least

wispy goblet
#

The story has really made Cissia grow on me

#

the problem with pulling for Yidhari sig
is that I don't usually pull for sigs
so if I lose, it'll be a long time before I cash in that guarantee

#

if I lose on Cissia, at least I have a guarantee banked for Promeia

rapid bough
#

it'd need to show a very different side of her to make me like her since the teasing/lying archetype is just absolutely not for me (even with girlfailure attributes)

#

same reason i don't like viper in nikke (even before all the uh... other baggage)

wispy goblet
#

smh this man won't overlook a little terrorism

rapid bough
#

i'm fairly certain atm that my SK/qiuyuan/galbrena team atm is doing as much or maybe even more damage than my mono fusion aemeath team

#

also gives me major neuron activation to play since qiuyuan and galbrena are both so fucking cool

runic ether
#

zzz devs will never make a woman actually gaslight u with real consequences for it so shes half baked at best

rapid bough
#

i don't even need real consequences

#

though it'd probably make her more bearable

#

since gaslighting with real consequences might cause actual character development

#

instead she will just live in permanent minor gaslighting hell where nothing is super serious but i hate her because she is literally incapable of just saying a single true statement

runic ether
#

"i'll lie and manipulate you for my own benefits"
"so that your character arc can explore why thats bad and how you get punished for it right?"
proceeds to never change and never get punished
bonus sprinkle of "oh she wasnt that bad to you"

#

it'd be cool if she was guaranteed to be a main character going forward but i dont imagine we'll see cissia again for a other 3 patches where she'll be at an event

#

its weird cus hoyo has done the liar that faces actual consequences storyline before and they know how to do it and play it off well

rapid bough
#

idk why they made galbrena's outro seemingly hit like an ult but it do be blasting

runic ether
#

i think it also does not even feel a bit endearing to me cus it isnt like this game has established actual friction between wise and bell/agents

#

so its not like i actually believe its ever gonna be handled well its just cissia's quirk

#

even pulchra is an ass sometimes but never like

#

shes never even close to bad or even begrudging to the proxies

rapid bough
#

i mean friends can be an ass to friends sometimes, but pulchra at least genuinely feels like she warms up to the proxy

#

with a character like cissia it just comes across as extremely fake

runic ether
#

yeah and even super early on for pulchra

rapid bough
#

this is also why nicole irks me btw

runic ether
#

we have never had an agent that is genuinely only hanging out with us for convenience

#

like if we had say mors the wolf guy from the gang be a playable agent and he was strictly business? sure i'd believe cissia

runic ether
#

i do love nicole but her audacity would not be cute like actually

#

even if we know and the proxies know that she is a genuinely good person underneath half the shit she does and says is like

rapid bough
#

genuinely the best nicole character moment so far is in the very first cutscene where billy/anby offer to sell out phaethon to get out of the hollow safely and nicole says that isn't how she rolls

#

it's all been downhill from there

runic ether
#

yeah

#

yeah u know what that also does not inspire any confidence in cissia too

#

nicole never ever got more and more moments like that

#

cissia will never get moments where her lying catches up to her

#

nicole will not sell out the proxies like that... and hoyo will never really show nicole also overcoming her greed in times in times of need in the future tho this is just because i highly doubt we'll ever see her and the cunning hares having a meaningful role again

#

in retrospect, the cunning hares not having more to do while sanby's story was happening was a massive miss

rapid bough
#

the nicole S rank alt will bring them back into story relevance as a team, trust

slow raft
runic ether
#

no but how they did sanby

#

they will have the cunning hares just be there a bit

rapid bough
#

i think it's harder to do that with nicole than it was for sanby or likely what they'll do with billy

#

sanby and billy have pasts that are disconnected from the cunning hares for the most part, so they have a reason to have their own solo alt story (even if it's kinda lame to exclude the rest of the cunning hares)

runic ether
#

like when silly comes out, i have my doubts that caesar lighter and big daddy will have anything to do with the story of it even if they should

rapid bough
#

nicole as the leader of the group and not quite as much of a fighter herself (compared to the resident super soldier and former outer ring champion) has more reason to involve the rest of them

runic ether
#

maybe?

#

i was typing shit but i accidentally deleted

#

fuck

rapid bough
#

rip

runic ether
#

let me double check it was true ayways

#

*anyways

#

cus iirc

#

nicole did get adopted by a wealthy family

#

its how she has her suitcase

#

but iirc its unknown if she has any contact with them in her adulthood

rapid bough
#

i'm not saying she doesn't have her own pre-cunning hares "mysterious past" to sort out

#

i'm just saying the way she's portrayed in universe (relatively normal but smart girl with a cancer cannon in a suitcase) makes it harder for her to just fly solo like sanby did and likely billy will

runic ether
#

okay yeah she was adopted by a really prominent family of new eridu

#

if nicole is ever expanded upon, i just feel like it wouldnt involve the cunning hares. unfortunate gut feeling

#

i do wish to be surprised tho if they ever get there

rapid bough
#

idk how tinfoil this is but it seems a fairly intuitive observation to me

#

i bet VA availability is also a large factor in which characters they work in to main story (i.e., voiced) content

#

so it may not even be that they think sidelining the cunning hares for all their individual stories is the correct move for the story, they just do it to avoid needing to cast all the different VAs again for cost-cutting or production streamlining reasons

runic ether
#

hmm

#

maybe

#

tho sound cadence is a pro recording studio

#

idk how like

#

actually difficult it would be for them to organize this with hoyo

wispy goblet
#

also they could
just not voice lines
happens
happened this patch, even

rapid bough
#

they deliberately left lines unvoiced this patch?

runic ether
#

and the story was short?

rapid bough
#

in the past i've only ever seen that happen when they have seemingly last-minute script changes or VA issues

#

like with 2.5 and 1.4

wispy goblet
#

I don't know about deliberately
but there's a couple missing lines
and one really glaring mismatch

rapid bough
#

mismatches are a different story

wispy goblet
#

like the text is "boil three gallons of water" and the voiceover is "Brady throws the game-winning touchdown"

rapid bough
#

seems more like a bug to me then

runic ether
#

zzz confirms he wins an 8th ring motherfucker

wispy goblet
#

the missing lines are all from characters who have most of their lines voiced too

rapid bough
#

i mean yeah that's happened before

runic ether
#

this story patch isnt even long according to ppl saying online so wtf happened there

rapid bough
#

i'm saying i've only seen it happen when they outright say there were last-minute changes made and they didn't have time to re-record lines

wispy goblet
#

saw someone joke Stephen was out the door and doing promo for Rivals or something and that's why he had missing lines

rapid bough
#

i haven't ever seen a case where they just say "meh, too lazy to get this voiced" in the middle of an otherwise voiced segment

#

so the "they could just... not voice lines" option doesn't really seem valid to me

#

they seem to go in with a plan to have it voiced, and only production issues might change that

wispy goblet
#

they only announce the issues when it's really bad

#

and it wasn't really bad this time

#

so maybe they'll just paper over it later

#

they did have another case of voice filters missing

rapid bough
#

my point is that all of that is easily dismissed as production issues or bugs (which are, in a way, production issues anyway)

runic ether
#

i actually do not remember many if any issues with voicing in genshin outside of the strike
its so weird how both hsr and zzz have been plagued throughout with them

rapid bough
#

deliberately not voicing a character they want to include in voiced segments doesn't seem like something they'd do or have ever done

#

except during the strike which was just one massive production problem

runic ether
#

i wonder if the genshin team knows how to do something they just arent sharing with the other teams for some reason

#

maybe its the shockwave model in genshin's code keeping things together...

rapid bough
#

anyway, nikke solo raid time

old galleon
#

you still need to do your runs?

wispy goblet
#

I think I'm safe for Frame II
I don't think I'll drop down to Frame I
that's, what, 15%?

rapid bough
old galleon
#

i see no world where you drop below 15%

mental acorn
rapid bough
#

lol mihara

#

she nearly outdamaged rapi in the "rapi is the heroine" team

#

something occurs to me looking at these endscreens: it is very funny that all the damage/shielding/healing bars use the same scale despite shielding/healing always being so much smaller than damage

#

they should really redesign so each is on their own scale as a percentage of the team's total output for that type

#

instead of shield/heal always being invisible since they're several orders of magnitude smaller than damage

old galleon
#

i need to

  1. figure out how mihara really works in miranda comp
  2. figure out proper timing and dealing with qte's during mihara's burst (bc she ostensibly is supposed to duck under cover)
  3. work on mihara's lines
rapid bough
#

mihara in miranda comp = make sure she gets miranda's buff and then sit her in cover for the whole burst

#

if you need to shoot something, just quickly click out of cover repeatedly like you're alice spam shotting so your team shoots at it but mihara doesn't fire a bullet

#

(2) is easier said than done if you need to shoot something real bad like a QTE, though in this boss fight it's pretty straightforward since there isn't much to shoot

old galleon
#

i could have probably gotten like 9 or 10 billion on this raid if mihara had even somewhat optimized lines and i didn't suck with miranda comp

#

but it's fine

#

also i'm using maxwell as a substitute for ada since i obviously don't have her

#

so that cuts into it a little

rapid bough
#

whatever gets mihara the buff works, but ada is much easier to work around since she only buffs the active B3. maxwell might be stealing your mihara buff every time since her buff is always active on both herself and mihara

old galleon
#

my maxwell is even less invested than mihara, it's fine

rapid bough
#

tbh this team did significantly better damage than i thought it would

toxic cloud
rapid bough
#

put some respect on modernia's name

#

alice is my only remotely optimized unit in this team too

sharp swan
#

Baddie

wispy goblet
#

(this is the bangboo banner)

glossy latch
#

Man

#

Currency Wars is a lot less fun in wealth creator 😔

#

At least you can play at lower ranks

wispy goblet
#

I am out of disc leveling mats

#

and disc rolling mats

#

it's gonna be a long month of farming

idle grove
rapid bough
#

i think the last time i got a percentage around here i ended up having to rerun the next day (that is, after sleeping) to avoid falling out of the top 3%

#

hopefully that's not the case here

#

looks like i was in the 2.1% range last time, and i also finished about 1.5 hours earlier

#

that became 2.96% by the time i had woke up next morning and i ended up rerunning to make sure i stayed within the top 3%

#

guess we'll see where i'm at in the morning

#

i know i've got room for improvement on these runs so i'm confident i can push if necessary

#

i'd just rather not lol

#

would probably try to move x.brid to x.diesel team and use doro + x.soline in shotgun team, since that's a better overall setup but it requires much more careful management of diesel team due to losing mast as a healer

timber sigil
rapid bough
#

though i do dearly miss lupa's voicelines

#

her special intro "BURN TO DUST" is one of the hardest voicelines in the game

#

as-is "With me, to victory!" which even gets me hype

glossy latch
#

Oh yeah funny thing

#

Galbrenas BiS team is now mono fusion with Mornye

#

Apparently that manages to beat out even the qiuyuan team

rapid bough
#

not entirely surprising but

  1. mornye is gonna be with aemeath like 100% of the time
  2. qiuyuan team has qiuyuan sooooo
glossy latch
#

Fair lmao

#

Just saying if you miss Lupa, that's always an option~

rapid bough
#

i don't regret pulling qiuyuan even for a second

#

the aurafarming gives me life

glossy latch
#

He has even more aurafarming than you probably noticed

#

I'm not even sure why he has this

old galleon
#

went back to try to find something for a different fight and saw i had said this in relation to mul nab-zu

#

this turned out to be very, very false

#

trying to plan out the superboss gauntlet

long tree
#

Been playing the new ff gacha

#

While its super pay to win it is also very fun so err

#

Kinda screwed but they put my girl terra in so I'm having fun (they made her real world outfit a schoolgirl uniform though so cringe

#

Mother of 16 and her ass is wearing a high school uniform smh

astral drift
#

I’m getting like 15k fp every day, is it because of strange fake

pastel bear
#

what's the new ff gacha?

old galleon
#

some dissidium game iirc

#

anyway i have a 3 turn set up for the gauntlet verison of mul an-kun, confirmed it works

#

now once i figure out the other fights i'll be good

#

nab-zu is an identical fight to its non-gauntlet version so i can just test that in its room instead of starting the gauntlet

#

but i'll have to test ki-ka in the gauntlet after i set that comp up

old galleon
#

yeah nab-zu is still a colossal fucking bastard despite its fight being completely unchanged

#

can't figure it out while still keeping the other two teams for their fights

#

worst part is that despite it being such a colossal fucking bastard, it's entirely skill issue

rapid bough
#

2.32% in solo raid now... i'm probably fine, just gonna roll with what i've got

mortal iron
idle grove
toxic cloud
idle grove
old galleon
idle grove
old galleon
#

ye i meant the post

idle grove
#

yeah ferrari is a big gfl loreknower so anything from him is either true or a joke

old galleon
#

looking like the final top solo raid teams swapped snow out of the diesel team

#

world top ranker is using rei (ayanami) instead

#

so is world second top ranker

#

comp is rei/x diesel/maxwell/x brid/moran

#

meanwhile asuka is still found dead in a ditch

runic ether
slow raft
old galleon
#

yay i found a mul nab-zu strat that works in gauntlet

#

now as long as i don't fuck up the rest is free

#

naturally, i fucked up

#

have entirely thew rong skill setup on my ki-ka squad

sharp swan
old galleon
#

the calamity gauntlet is dead

#

now i actually don't ever have to worry about nab-zu again

#

an-kun is free, ki-ka is free once i don't fuck up skills

#

nab-zu is really annoying

#

had to resort to minalca ns since her spammable has barrier pierce and my renri alter isn't stellared

#

also i once again forgot to check how many turns that fight wnet

#

the order i did them in was nab-zu, ki-ka, an-kun

#

ki-ka was 4 turns, an-kun was 3

old galleon
#

man i really don't want to do the an-ki dingir gauntlet

#

but i kinda have to

#

do i have 3 different elements that can do this

#

fire is a given

#

wind is a given

#

but i'm not confident in teh others

#

we'll see

old galleon
#

moment of truth for my solo raid ranking

#

non-zero chance i got bumped out of top 10%, but definitely in at least top 15%

#

yeah, ended up 10.40%

#

lol

#

also the difference between na top ranker and second place is uh

#

6 billion lmao

long tree
#

Apologies about that previous post must've copied the wrong shit by mistake

old galleon
#

no worries

idle grove
old galleon
#

so i got og soda a few days ago and i've been doing her advise sessions and

#

her left hand lol

#

from afar i always thought it was supposed to be her holding a pistol or something, but it's just her hand looking deformed as fuck

#

her thumb is almost parallel with her index finger

idle grove
old galleon
#

got the old purple changed into gold gate and didn't get punished this time

#

too bad this came after solo raid

#

still not gonna complain tho

idle grove
#

@pastel bear

pastel bear
#

YES

slow raft
#

my brainworms are actually terminal bro
listening to music on the radio and the song "disturbia" comes on and i perk up at the lyrics "its a disease of the mind" "the city of wonder" and "its like the darkness is the light"

runic ether
#

carmen will distort you on the spot bro

slow raft
#

nah id manifest

runic ether
#

i'd distort. on purpose.

old galleon
# rapid bough

in your shotgun team, do you remember around how much your arcana did?

slow raft
rapid bough
old galleon
#

neat

#

was gonna consider duping her (on wishlist) if she had decent performance

copper steppe
#

oc2 done, damn that was good

idle grove
pastel bear
#

I love you king arthur in any form you take

old galleon
#

gonna have to find time to finish it off

mental acorn
rapid bough
#

the game starts loading. the screen goes black. i see my reflection in the darkness. the illusion breaks. reality crashes down upon me. i do not actually have a big tiddy blue hair gf. why live?

old galleon
#

what a cruel way to find out your true name is username

slow raft
#

the damage of an average grade 9 fixer

summer hornet
#

Oh I didn't realize that was permanent

#

In retrospect it makes a lot of sense

slow raft
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whats permanent?

runic ether
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walp event?

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this is in md

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though u can replay them

summer hornet
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Yeah the Walp lol

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Even though I use the 2nd Walp night as an easy way to get 10+ kills on slow days

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I forgot

runic ether
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?

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why do that instead of grinding exp...

summer hornet
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Sometimes I don't feel like wading through them all

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It's the whole "do you do 3 medium-high difficulty MD runs or 1 max difficulty MD run a week"

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And I'm currently on:

  • FGO
  • HSR
  • Arknights
  • Limbus
  • NIKKE
  • Gundam G Gen Eternal
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I'm not minmaxing every game every day every week

runic ether
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no ik but i mean the exp nodes are super easy

slow raft
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one exp node does give enough for the 10+ kills and you can win rate that shit easily

summer hornet
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Idk, sometimes it just feels like too much of a pain

glossy latch
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@rapid bough I swear Danjin mains are unhinged

digital marlin
slow raft
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this sinking run would prolly be fun to take into floor 15 🤔

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eh, ive already gotten the achievements

glossy latch
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So funny that Danjin mains got so attached to a character that hasn't got a single second of screentime

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She's the only character to never appear in anything in WuWa lmao

rapid bough
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i hate it when my best attempt at something is my first one that i then can't seem to beat lol

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trying to clear whiwa infinite, got 4290 first try

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figured i could push to 4500 with some optimization but now i can't even beat 4290

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kind of a bummer that there's no particularly good whiwa token for galbrena this reset though

wispy goblet
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I need rerun leaks

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I need information to make decisions

toxic cloud
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Is privaty's teacher outfit that bad @rapid bough

wispy goblet
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if by "that bad" you mean "that good"

rapid bough
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yeah i'ma need you to define "that bad"

toxic cloud
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I think it's very good yeah but like uh

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is it "dignified" or was her dialogue there ironic

rapid bough
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that dialogue was almost certainly serious from her PoV

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but i think it's also tongue-in-cheek fourth wall stuff from the devs since it is so obviously the opposite

toxic cloud
rapid bough
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but to my knowledge, there's no dialogue throughout the event even talking about her outfit beyond that single exchange

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no one says it's inappropriate or dignified, it just... is

toxic cloud
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Oh since you gamers are here what is doro actually like

rapid bough
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a broken, eternally depressed, and infinitely cynical woman who is obsessed with pursuing revenge against those she feels have wronged her (in her case, the central government of the ark, the "last bastion" of humanity)

digital marlin
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Very far cry from.the memes

rapid bough
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in other words, the complete opposite of her existence as a cute meme creature

digital marlin
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How did that meme even start

rapid bough
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there's some lore out there tracking it down to some korean message boards

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i don't think the original drawing was even doro, someone just made a doro edit and that's the one that took off as a meme

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likely due to the insane contrast between it as a meme and dorothy as a character

rapid bough
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i should also emphasize she makes a point to appear and act as elegant as possible

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which is another contrast with the meme creature

rapid bough
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yes

digital marlin
rapid bough
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the devs play into it with some frequency

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the april fool's event two years ago (damn i guess we're about to get another huh) doro-ified several of the characters for a skill animation

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and had their doro-ified assets used elsewhere, like in an event banner (i forget exactly where)

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(this event was peak btw, genuinely got a belly laugh or two out of me)

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nikke april fool's events have been consistently great

toxic cloud
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Does every character have a room key scene?

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or just a few

rapid bough
toxic cloud
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Pog

rapid bough
toxic cloud
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Oh uh remember when privaty invited you to her room

rapid bough
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no lol every character does not have scenes like that, in fact very few do

toxic cloud
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Yeah that makes sense

rapid bough
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that scene is from the currently running event which focuses on privaty and another nikke, arcana

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so it's an event-specific scene

toxic cloud
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Arcana jigglypog

rapid bough
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wife

toxic cloud
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Based

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My friends showed me a bunch of label screenshots

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they were very funny

rapid bough
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ah yes, hex maniac label

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the latest but perhaps not greatest girlfailure (that title probably goes to bahamut)

toxic cloud
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👀

old galleon
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is this the part where khaios tries to convert ren to nikke

toxic cloud
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Probably not I'm already slacking on Endfield hokuLUL

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But nikke is cool, I like the characters

toxic cloud
wispy goblet
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Shift Up actually bought or obtained the rights to the Doro meme

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And they use it regularly in marketing and promotional material

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They have an informal (or formal?) agreement with Elotes Doro so they can keep using Doro as a mascot too

rapid bough
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also this, they sent a big doro floating down the hudson river

summer hornet
toxic cloud
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hello Mr regi dubiouscreature

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Is doro evil and depressed sad

summer hornet
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um

summer hornet
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I actually haven't met Dorothy in Nikke yet rofl, at least not in the main story mode

toxic cloud
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Oh wild

summer hornet
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I'm only up to chapter 16

toxic cloud
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Looks like she's pretty far in

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20 something

runic ether
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pierce team for pierce weak
blunt team for blunt weak
slash team for slash weak (its rupture here atp)

toxic cloud
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Fuwisty I met the lightning tianshi jigglypog

runic ether
summer hornet
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I was going to crash out like a [REDACTED] if it was all sinking

manic jayBOT
summer hornet
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but instead the fault is with me for relying on burn

runic ether
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no

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kinda

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well

summer hornet
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...

runic ether
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so the current pierce team is burn/sinking/poise

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well

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the element is kind of irrelevant

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it relies on the full stop office + ego meursault

glossy latch
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Damn, HSR might be too big for my phone now

summer hornet
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at least you got Ashveil

glossy latch
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I mean I can still play on my PC lmao

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But this is mildly annoying

old galleon
glossy latch
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I'm almost tempted to switch my phone but like

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I would hate having to move stuff

old galleon
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also story mode exists now so it's incredibly easy to get caught up on reading

runic ether
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the pierce team really wants beesault but

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it also means you really only need the other sinners as passive bots

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ik ppl like maining pequod captain

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but she can end up kinda ass

wispy goblet
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Co-op live apparently

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Gotta do my runs

summer hornet
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oh I do have Hornet Merusault

runic ether
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id order matters for this team iirc...

summer hornet
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neither of the Full Stop bros tho

old galleon
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i've still never touched co-op lol

runic ether
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also really likes an ego

wispy goblet
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It's a lot less of a hassle with Standard matchmaking

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You accept, pick your nikke, then AFk while the game autos
Then when you hit Threshold 9 it auto ends

runic ether
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great trichilocosm + fell bullet are both goated (yi sang)

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blunt is more or less w corp heath simulator

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slash envy res

slow raft
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You dont need anyth7ng else tbh

runic ether
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i think if u wanna speedrun it you do wanna pay attention to the rotating weakness

slow raft
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Yeah but why you do that

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You simply press start, press winrate and tab out and then you repeat that 3-4 times

runic ether
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i mean yeah lol

slow raft
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No brainpower needed and you can concentrate on important stuff

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Opimizing it feels like a waste of time cause im not actualmy spending any time on it in the first place

summer hornet
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I have been unable to do that since at least Canto 7

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maybe I'm just too small brain or hardwired wrong but

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counter defense skills and then the general setup of enemy skills in 7 and 8 respectively

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means that, at least for the first few turns, I'm trying to pay attention

runic ether
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you may be overthinking it...

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you have backup sinners who enter with sanity

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let them die

summer hornet
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i

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have almost never used backup sinners lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

runic ether
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gotta remember the eternal pjm lesson: you cant save everyone

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your nuggets in lob corp? you'll sacrifice at least 2 a day

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your librarians in ruina? there are cards that want you to kill them

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your sinners? it'll hurt dante but there are also ids that want to die

summer hornet
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Heishous are the only exception here

runic ether
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they are not. get your free s3s off one death thanks to lord lu

runic ether
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mao outis loves doing unclashed damage

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but

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sometimes you need all hands on deck but swapping her out is impossible

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let her lose and die

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a better clashing heishou will come in and s3 for free

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also the current even 00 yi sang literally wants to explode and die to fuel rupture

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and ego resources