#Gacha Chat

1 messages · Page 272 of 1

wispy goblet
#

Even Yanagi and Alice, with their unique disorder stuff, are much more effective in hypercarry teams rather than disorder cycling against different attributes

rapid bough
#

since when is yanagi "much more effective" in hypercarry teams

runic ether
#

iirc invested yanagi in mono electric with trigger is p good but idr if it requires mindscapes/wengines to overperform

wispy goblet
#

I'm pretty sure her best numbers are in teams where she's the hypercarry like mono-shock teams
not teams where she's disorder cycling with another attribute
other than Miyabi but that's because Miyabi has a unique double-benefit from disorder cycling

rapid bough
#

other than Miyabi but that's because Miyabi has a unique double-benefit from disorder cycling
that's sort of my point lol

wispy goblet
#

smh sorry for discounting the game's most infamous outlier

rapid bough
#

her best team is one that specifically focuses on her unique disorder mechanic so it feels like you're just ignoring that to fit it into your argument

wispy goblet
#

even then
Miyabi's highest performing teams don't use Yanagi

rapid bough
#

that's fine, she got powercrept to the surprise of no one

#

don't see how that's relevant

wispy goblet
#

I'm at least 60% sure mono-ice outperformed Miyabi-Yanagi teams even when Yanagi dropped
and Mostly Ice's advantage over Mono-Ice is ease of play, not outperformance in damage output/score

rapid bough
#

I'm at least 60% sure mono-ice outperformed Miyabi-Yanagi teams even when Yanagi dropped
it absolutely did, but it was hard as fuck to play properly

wispy goblet
#

tbh I'm kinda upset hoyo made Lycaon's PU worse in general play to satisfy the freeze-chainers

rapid bough
#

and it relied on freeze abuse which we've already noted is the subject of many ZZZ dev regrets

#

idk i just don't buy that there's any reason for them to go on an anti-disorder crusade

#

i think all you've mentioned can easily be dismissed as the result of new character shilling and their evolving design philosophy of making off-field characters more active

wispy goblet
#

it's not just performance
it's also a playstyle that interacts with bosses the least, I'd say
since you're not interested in stun, you're also largely uninterested in important sources of daze like defensive assists
so it's just cycling back and forth between the anomalies
chaining freezes is the most infamous example of disorder cycling being uninteractive
but even discounting that, it's a largely uninteractive playstyle that I think the devs want to discourage moving forward

rapid bough
#

for one, i don't really buy that boss interaction is super important to them since YSG just released and ignores anything and everything bosses do to a level far greater than anomaly/disorder spamming

#

if anything their premiere character releases have gotten more ignorant of boss mechanics over time, not less

#

for two, i genuinely don't understand how any of these

Vivian's Ablooms
Alice's weird DoT Assaults and general Assault-synergy focus
Aria's Ablooms
...Grace's Ablooms
do anything to appreciably deviate from this allegedly harmful play pattern

wispy goblet
#

I don't think they've particularly good job of finding new interesting things to do with anomaly
right now all they've got is "do more damage when you do a thing while anomaly is active"

rapid bough
#

i'm not really sure how you expect them to

wispy goblet
#

which is not exactly inspired
but I think I see a direction they are moving

rapid bough
#

if your criticism of rupture/attack is they both fit the cdmg, stun-focused mold, then surely we need something that doesn't do that

#

right now anomaly is all we got

#

part and parcel of getting good performance outside of stun window is implicitly... not caring about stun window

wispy goblet
#

maybe we'll get something like increased daze while anomaly is active for Nangong
it's a start, at least

rapid bough
#

which means you're just all gas no brakes all the time

wispy goblet
#

it could also be that they feel like they can't balance out-of-stun damage well
which would be pretty damning for the gameplay variety
but

rapid bough
#

personally i find that pretty fun

#

the teams with the most frenetic gameplay right now are usually anomaly-based

#

i don't really get why that's something they would want to "fix" since i don't agree there's something wrong with it

#

if anything it's a nice and necessary change of pace to the attack/rupture dynamic of shoving 90% of damage into stun windows

wispy goblet
#

I'm inclined to agree
but their decisions so far, especially post-Miyabi, seem to me like they are trying to move away from that identity for Anomaly

rapid bough
#

and i'm saying i just don't really follow how you're making that assessment

#

whether it's disorder or abloom (which is really just fancy disorder), the basic gameplay pattern of all but mono-element teams (and even some of them like freeze comps) is to trigger as many anomalies, disorders, and ablooms as possible

#

every team does that in the same way: constant switching and spread application

#

that they've moved more of it off-field is just a well-known shift in their design philosophy to make gameplay feel more like you're playing an actual team that's working together

#

and on top of not really following where you see this shift happening, i don't buy that it's even necessary which makes me even more confused about you saying it's happening

#

as it stands there's basically only one place they could go with it, which is to make anomaly more stun-focused instead

#

which would destroy its unique gameplay pattern for... why? idk

wispy goblet
#

Grouping anomaly triggers, disorder triggers, and ablooms together undersells the shift in teambuilding encouraged by the devs increasing the anomaly threshold.
Before, it was a lot easier for a single character to hit the threshold by themselves, so you were encouraged run two anomaly characters with different attributes so you could benefit from the disorder damage. Miyabi then double-benefited from this because she also got stacks for her EBA.
Increasing the anomaly threshold for most bosses meant that cycling between two different attributes was slower, but it was much less impactful for teams with a single element. That's why the best non-Miyabi anomaly teams now are mono-attribute like Mono-Phys or Mono-Shock.
Looking at Vivian, her buildup is famously pretty underwhelming for an Anomaly agent, so you're not putting her on a team to disorder cycle aggresively. Her whole thing is triggering certain actions while anomaly is applied to benefit from her Ablooms, not cycling back and forth between attributes.

rapid bough
#

That's why the best non-Miyabi anomaly teams now are mono-attribute like Mono-Phys or Mono-Shock.

you lost me here, since this completely ignores the fact that the other elements don't have multiple options to even make mono-teams with

#

of course mono-phys is the best anomaly team in a world where the rotating anomaly shill boss is physical weak

wispy goblet
#

Miyabi teams aren't even true mono-attribute
Frost isn't Ice

rapid bough
#

i don't think mono-shock anomaly is better than any electric attack team for bosses that are electric weak, so idrc about that one

rapid bough
#

unfortunately removing miyabi teams (you know, the ones that use the strongest anomaly character) is sort of funneling toward your conclusion

wispy goblet
#

memory serve me right
mono-phys is still really good against Bringer
the, uh, phys-resistant anomaly boss

rapid bough
#

mono-phys is just cracked in general solely on the basis of how alice and jane specifically interact, i don't think it being goated is indicative of any significant trend in their anomaly design

#

that's a team that outperforms full m6 miyabi teams with like... m2s on two of the characters

#

i don't recall full m0 mono-phys being significantly better than using vivian over jane, for instance

#

Looking at Vivian, her buildup is famously pretty underwhelming for an Anomaly agent, so you're not putting her on a team to disorder cycle aggresively. Her whole thing is triggering certain actions while anomaly is applied to benefit from her Ablooms, not cycling back and forth between attributes.
i genuinely think this is a meaningless distinction

#

you're cycling her in to apply her debuffs and build her resource

#

the effect on gameplay is the same as me doing something like switching to yanagi to EX to give miyabi stacks for her EBA

wispy goblet
# rapid bough unfortunately removing miyabi teams (you know, the ones that use the strongest a...

Miyabi is a big part of my point
she is the most infamous disorder cycler and the developers are clearly trying to reign her in and that's usually done through anti-anomaly means
but she's a big overperformer not just off the back of disorders
(looking at you EBA3 having a higher multipler than Zhu Yuan's ult)
so I can't point to her 100% cleanly entirely
that's why I was pointing to Burnice earlier
if it was just about Miyabi being an overperformer, why also actively bury Burnice
surely they'd want to discourage Vivian usage, the more effective agent

rapid bough
#

why also actively bury Burnice
i already said this: shill new or rerunning toys

#

i certainly don't think it was a coincidence they reran vivi in 2.3, for instance

wispy goblet
#

I don't think that alone has enough explanatory power
Why would they then put Aria into the same class and attribute as Vivian
surely that would signal to Vivian havers that pulling Aria is a lower priority

rapid bough
#

not really if they have different play patterns (and i am fairly sure they do) and thus fill different roles

#

burnice and vivi have the same play pattern as off-field anomaly sub-DPS

wispy goblet
#

also Vivian's 2.3 rerun specifically feels like it really lacks explanatory power
this was already past Fiend's time as a constant DA appearance
and the 2.3 boss specifically was immensely anti-anomaly
2.4 would also be very anti-anomaly

rapid bough
#

i would be extremely surprised if at least one of the DA rotations in 2.3 didn't have miasmic fiend in it

wispy goblet
#

out of the three 2.3 DA cycles
one had Butcher (the first one, which should have been alongside the Vivian rerun I think)
and one had Fiend (the second one)

rapid bough
#

but more importantly, even if i grant you that burying burnice is unaccounted for, i still don't see the case for extrapolating that to just wanting to bury disorders in general

#

like literally what is the problem with disorder cycling

#

Miyabi is a big part of my point
she is the most infamous disorder cycler and the developers are clearly trying to reign her in and that's usually done through anti-anomaly means
they're trying to reign her in by killing freeze

#

she still fucking violently suplexes any even remotely anomaly-weak boss

#

i still use miyabi/yuzu/vivi all the time, it's my anomaly team of choice

#

you sound like the prydwen tier list writers who randomly downgraded miyabi as if her disorder-based gameplay pattern is any weaker than it once was against bosses not specifically made to be ultra shilled against anomaly (which fucks every anomaly character, not just disorder-centric play)

rapid bough
#

vivi in all things

wispy goblet
rapid bough
#

also the supposition that they want to bury burnice as an early disorder cycler doesn't jive with them... yknow... buffing her (even if the buff wasn't all that good)

wispy goblet
#

hmmm yes
the not very good buff
what motivation could they have had to not give her a very good buff
especially if they didn't pivot her gameplay

rapid bough
#

that seems like a silly point, you're saying they hate disorder so they purposely sandbagged a burnice buff rather than just... not buffing her?

#

what about grace? she's favors mono-shock and her buff was also very mid

wispy goblet
#

Was it? I feel like I've heard significantly better things about Grace's buff as far as pushing her into relevance

rapid bough
#

if she's relevant i guarantee you that will last as long as us getting another limited electric anomaly

#

but i haven't heard anything about her being relevant anyway

#

nor mono-shock in general, really

#

it does the trick but i can't recall ever seeing it surpass better options without being overinvested relative to those options

wispy goblet
rapid bough
#

i mean the actual answer to my question for both grace and lycaon is: they're standard characters and their "buff" really was focused more on updating their play patterns to mesh with the game's evolved direction since their release

#

burnice didn't need a significant gameplay pivot because there's no issue with her gameplay

#

anyway fuck me it's 2:30am and i have work, and we're just talking in circles tbh

wispy goblet
#

g'night

rapid bough
#

it's a cool discussion on the potential future of ZZZ design for especially anomaly but i remain unconvinced that they have it out for disorder as a gameplay pattern

wispy goblet
#

I also have work in the morning... later today lamo

rapid bough
#

one day we'll get an crit-focused anomaly char that excels in the stun window and the game will implode on itself for lack of variety

wispy goblet
#

Aria M1 gives her crits on her anomalies

#

or her ablooms

rapid bough
#

jane does that at base, does this mean jane is better

wispy goblet
#

I forgor

#

I think it's anomaly because people explicitly make the comparison to Jane

rapid bough
#

there's actually a fair bit of interesting stuff they could do to make anomaly cool in stun window without just doing "crits go brrr"

#

e.g. drastically increased anomaly application + removed internal anomaly CD during stun or something

#

can you imagine dropping like 10 anomalies in a stun window? that'd be neat

wispy goblet
#

tbh if that Nangong leaked kit holds true
I imagine it has to have some kind of mechanic like bypassing ICD

rapid bough
#

it already sorta happened with alice's special assault so not surprising

#

anyway blobcatnight

old galleon
#

ended up doing some older astral archive challenge fights

#

left one is traveler's curse, right one is veilis

slow raft
silver osprey
#

9

#

UNBREAKABLE

#

COINS

vernal snow
#

Solemn lament gregor if it was good

#

yknow what would be cool

#

i hope one day we get a like index heretic id which focuses on managing karmic consequence and grace of the prescript both

slow raft
silver osprey
#

No shot they give Yi Sang a 3rd sinking ID

#

That you probably will build your team around

vernal snow
#

Do consider they gave sinclair 4 burn IDs and ryoshu 3 bleeds with another on the way

silver osprey
#

Fair, but at least they're not the focus of the team

silver osprey
summer hornet
#

Who did they sneak in to the left of Amiya

mental acorn
#

her fiance zuo le clearly

summer hornet
mental acorn
#

ok so

  • in the Here A People Sows stream when they were going over the new operator profiles, amiya called him handsome
  • last cny hg published an art of them at a festival with doc in the background so it looks like we're chaperoning
  • they're about the same age
  • a marriage between the ceo of rhodes island and a candleholder would be mutually beneficial
  • as his boss we would have the ability to send him to iberia if he doesn't treat her perfectly
runic ether
#

over 300k views 😭

#

the index stays winning

slow raft
silver osprey
#

Btw sinking/poise now have 2 of the 3 Mang IDs in the game

runic ether
#

index upscale

#

this is all just a red mist upscale

silver osprey
#

Burn won't have a 2nd one bc Matthias doesn't use Mang icant

runic ether
#

valencina does tho

silver osprey
#

Oh true

#

That's fine then

#

Burn season agenda continues

runic ether
#

of course they will be "burn" ids

mortal iron
#

wondering if i should go for varka or skirk

#

i used all my luck getting both ineffa and columbina

runic ether
#

mid or goated unfortunately 😔

#

keep in mind: nicole is next patch most likely and she'd be varka bis

#

so if ur getting him, keep that in mind cus that is just how genshin functions atm

#

well that said, skirk is also an escoffier merchant

mortal iron
#

i have escoffier just for skirk

#

then i ate shit and lost

#

so i only use escoffier for ayaka

runic ether
#

oh then ez get skirt she is a massive improvement over ayaka at c0 for both

mortal iron
#

i will go for skirk then

#

i guess i will wait a week in for varka banner to see if he's mid or goated

#

but still will go for skirk

toxic cloud
#

I'm almost out of tutorial IV

#

let me outt

summer hornet
#

The ‘victory’ screenshot is a lie; I used like 4 different team comps

#

Magic Bullet burn, Heishou, Bleed, and a lobotomized EGO team of sorts

silver osprey
summer hornet
#

Hohenheim-Gregor gets a bonus based on how many EGO using identities are in the team

#

And I spliced them together with half a heishou comp

#

So it was

#

Lobotomized 😏

astral drift
#

almost thought i got the back to back

summer hornet
#

At least you still got her

slow raft
# summer hornet

Grats, railway is the high end of content and you completed one without eve having maxed out teams

summer hornet
#

Undeniable proof that I CAN read 🗣️

runic ether
#

lamp gregor is so goated but as to be expected with big bird

glossy latch
#

Still no 5* in HSR 😔

#

I just want Yao Guang for Sampo

glossy latch
#

Also used up some Aurelyne for rolls ... didnt get anything there either

#

I dont think Endfield is surviving in my roster, tbh

summer hornet
#

Endfield is really fun

#

but I am not playing it every day

#

which, tbf, they do kinda account for

#

what with the 2x bonus you get for every day you miss (up to 3)

glossy latch
#

Im just not personally enjoying it enough to stick with it

#

The fact that pulling as f2p is going to be painful just helps make that decision easier

silver osprey
#

Well, we don't know that yet

copper steppe
#

from what i heard its considerably less f2p than normal arknights

#

in what extent i have no idea

old galleon
#

arknights is very f2p-friendly

#

one of the friendlier ones i've played

#

endfield, wouldn't be able to say

runic ether
#

i would comment...

#

but

#

it is me so ymmv

#

so far in endfield, i comfortably had the pulls for gilberta

#

and i'll have enough for yvonne

#

i feel like if the game can consistently give the resources to get say

#

1 6 star per patch cycle... thats probably more than fine

long tree
#

Endfield pulls are like, you'll definitely get who you want

#

But that's like 1 unit per patch

glossy latch
#

I assume its better if you get all the one-time stuff from Valley IV and Wuling (Which I havent) but

#

Problem is the repeatable sources seem quite low

#

I could be wrong, I havent played it that much and am kinda falling off of it anyway, just what I noticed

runic ether
#

it feels that way if u dont focus on the factory stuff

glossy latch
#

Does the factory give you repeatable sources of originium?

runic ether
#

yes for the most part? do u mean the dust or...? cus thats all mining

slow raft
#

atm you get 1900 oroberyl per week (3 and 1/6th of a pull)
and the first half of the endgame mode that lasts 28 days gives 1200 oroberyl (so 2 pulls)
assuming the second half stays the same, thats 10k oroberyl in 4 weeks which would be a nice round number so that seems reasonable
thats like 16 and a half pulls which is i think similar to what zzz gives in the same timeframe?
also ignoring the oroberyl you can get from the shop of course

obviously well have to see how it develops, what other modes will be added and such but atm i didnt struggle with pulling as a f2p (ignore the lucky gilberta, i didnt plan on pulling for her)

glossy latch
#

I see

#

Probably still not sticking with it tbh, but fair enough

slow raft
#

yeah thats understandable im also not exactly thrilled by the hoyo-esque pulling standards, esp after haveing experienced better, but ill stick with it for now

silver osprey
slow raft
#

yeah id atleast wait until the initial bopost of stuff is done

rapid bough
#

looking like i was correct about this rating, but the gap between privaty and moran is much smaller than anticipated. looks more like privaty > moran >> zwei >>>>>>>> centi (rip until they fix her)

#

moran FI is better than expected and makes her a meta B1 even for PvE, especially in electric weak

#

so moran enjoyers are unexpectedly winning big

wispy goblet
#

tbh I'm not sure the fix will resolve the PvP nerf
Apparently her shield being deployed at round start is the problem
because it accelerates the enemy team's burst build

rapid bough
#

aye, poli apparently had the same issue

#

(and still does)

#

honestly didn't realize shields gave additional burst charge, very awkward

rapid bough
#

first pass at DA

#

can definitely improve butcher, didn't even get the full performance points there lol

#

probably could push 40k on creator too, i messed up the last rotation and ended up only getting half a YSG qingming state instead of a full one

#

i always tell myself i can 40k miasma priest but i think it's out of my reach until i get koleda's wengine for fufu to get an extra stun rotation in

wispy goblet
#

the alleged 2.7 beta is loose

#

Eating rn and have to do dailies first

rapid bough
#

new disk sets
look inside
no chain attack set for evelyn

aight i'ma head out

wispy goblet
#

hey one of them is unknown

#

So Nangong's goal is for the team to trigger a total of five anomalies, disorders, and/or ablooms before stun ends

#

I have to reread to see if they all have to be in one stun window

rapid bough
#

cissia looks like an off-field sub DPS + elec/phys buffer

#

the S rank billy agenda is being maintained

wispy goblet
#

Nangong being pretty hard locked to Anomaly teams will make it hard to find space for her in my roster right away
But we may still waifu pull

runic ether
#

(it probably would)

rapid bough
#

at this point i'm convinced they're afraid of making eve especially too strong as a result of it lol

runic ether
#

hoyo must be like...

#

yeah lmao

rapid bough
#

she's the strongest of the 3 already and would benefit the most from it

runic ether
#

thats the only thing im thinking of

#

like

#

is it a fear that eve and hugo would polarize?

#

i dont follow their logic

rapid bough
#

guess i should save this image for when she does get a chain attack set, surely it'll happen eventually copium

runic ether
#

i learned that idling my factory production in endfield crashes on mobile too after some time

#

what the fuck

#

on the flipside i now have infinite... everything really

long tree
#

Oh my fucking god

#

WHAT ARE THEY FEEDING THESE DEVS

wispy goblet
#

got home late so just did some quick runs
might optimize later
first time with Yixuan sig

#

I think I four stunned Priest?
I wasn't counting
and of course I wasn't recording either
the run did feel really smooth
even though I got Miasma phase locked at 99 Daze twice

toxic cloud
#

I finished tutorial IV
Time to do the Yvonne narrative quest @silver osprey

runic ether
#

you are finishing valley 4

#

i am creating bullshit bases with over 4k energy reqs

#

(im bleeding batteries)

toxic cloud
#

Did you like valley iv

runic ether
#

eh

#

its okay so far

#

im at the very end trying to unlock the last aic section

#

its very generic

#

i'd say valley 4 is about on par with what i expected from genshin

#

alright 4.6k energy guaranteed + 2k energy being used rn

toxic cloud
#

I'm here for uh

#

someone in particular

runic ether
#

yvonne?

toxic cloud
#

mayhaps.

#

Story was alright though yeah

runic ether
#

chen's still my fave tho i did end up liking yvonne a lot

#

also for those factoring it up: buckcapsule or citrome?

#

ig it doesnt matter? i can end up producing both

toxic cloud
#

Perlica is okay

#

I like citrome more

runic ether
#

perlica, to me, feels like they wanna set things up for her in the future

#

but idk how to feel about her yet

toxic cloud
#

She probably has the most plot yeah

#

Xaihi jigglypog

runic ether
#

you're a xaihi fan?

#

i do like her design but i've yet to meet her

toxic cloud
#

oh you havent met her

runic ether
#

i am barely finishing the power plant area

toxic cloud
#

Should be very soon then, I met her before the power plant
She's uh ||aboard dijiang|| if you're wondering

runic ether
#

i was not joking i've been moving cables for the past 3 hours + planning/building facilities for the last few days

toxic cloud
#

Wild

runic ether
#

oh lol xaihi

#

the frost girl

#

right

#

i have her

#

i thought u meant the dragon lady

#

with green pants

#

idr her name

toxic cloud
#

Ah yeah haven't met that one either yet

summer hornet
#

~350 SQ and 80 tickets

#

about 200 rolls? Maybe 190

#

But I got Richard

#

Gonna have to grind, for the first time in literal years, to make sure I can get back up to the pity marker before Aoko arrives

#

And if she doesn't come home quickly enough I'm gonna be screwed for Summer Eresh

runic ether
#

the only thing i've heard of this man is that he spooked everyone by being a year early icant

summer hornet
#

LITERALLY

runic ether
#

(well aside from fsf spoilers ||his fight with enkidu which was hype as fuck||)

summer hornet
#

I HAD A WHOLE ROADMAP

#

AND HE TORE IT INTO SHREDS

summer hornet
#

Strange Fake has been godly

#

Every episode is exciting

#

And the quality hasn't dropped at all

runic ether
#

if that was the cost of dropping an episode and then leaving for over a year im okay with it

summer hornet
#

tbf we've got the whole rest of the season

#

||I think (hope) we've got a few more scenes with him, this was just his big NP reveal (I think)||

runic ether
#

||yeah which was really damn cool overall. i was waiting to see how they'd make him different from past sabers (and literally artoria) but they did a good job at it imo||

#

3.68k/5.7k

#

the factory is growing

mental acorn
rapid bough
#

cissia's animations kinda cool

#

her weapon being a sword-whip-spear wasn't on my bingo card but it works well for her theme (even if it's a bit nonsense as a weapon lol)

#

i'm not interested in any of the AoD designs so i'm biased but nangong yu's animations ain't moving the needle

#

if anything she's the least interesting of the three to me lol

#

in other news, i finished wuwa's rinascita finale (galbrena + leviathan resolution)

#

it was mostly really good and galbrena especially is the baddest bitch around, strongly tempted to pull for her when she reruns later this patch

digital marlin
#

Rule of Cool always in effect

rapid bough
#

but some parts of it also rubbed me the wrong way and ||of fucking COURSE it ended with fractsidus pulling the "we got everything we wanted" card, i am so goddamn tired of that trope||

digital marlin
#

😔

#

I feel.like the previous two AoD were more focused on being a performance while Nangong is just more straight forward combat

runic ether
#

shes been characterized as their top their protector

digital marlin
#

Which makes sense since she's the one using a "proper weapon "

rapid bough
# rapid bough but some parts of it also rubbed me the wrong way and ||of fucking COURSE it end...

wuwa rinascita finale ||the entire "'all hope is lost" sequence where rover's seeing visions of everyone dying and reading the graves and has to be saved by galbrena really missed the mark for me and was honestly kind of frustrating. it basically required rover to turn into an idiot to play out the way that it did

there were like five distinct moments in dialogue before that during the quest that hammered home the "we believe in each other no matter what" theme, and then he seems some scary visions and ominous images (blatantly leviathan fucking with him) and basically immediately gives up? felt very hamfisted in service of paying off the gang coming in to save him, but there were like 10000 ways to do that that didn't turn him into a pumpkin out of nowhere||

#

||i can completely respect that they don't always want to make rover the sole savior, and i think it's great the ultimate fight pays off the "no one is in this alone, power of friendship" stuff really well. but rover is set up as the "harbinger of hope" and he's the first one to give up in the entire plotline lol wtf||

#

||augusta had some dialogue after their victory like "rover, you held on to hope and that's how we won" and i was thinking, "uhhh bro was gonna throw in the towel and lose everything until galbrena showed up to give him a pep talk and point out the obvious fact he was being manipulated by leviathan"||

#

||that entire sequence and into the final battle felt like great character moments for everyone except rover, who was borderline character assassinated by being made into a damsel in distress due to some spooky visions. fell very flat to me||

#

||on another note, galbrena being angel was a cool payoff too. i saw it coming from literally the very first (or maybe it was the second) flashback + dialogue that started with her saying she had just been in oak's hollow, but i appreciate they didn't beat you over the head with it. honestly didn't expect that piece of augusta's plotline to come back||

#

i will say that of the "climactic chapter finale"-type gacha stories i've played through that often involve all of the newest characters of their region banding together to beat the big bad, that rinascita one in wuwa probably did it the best. felt like it gave most of them time to breathe and that they were more than just setpieces to set up hype moments

#

it definitely curb stomps both of ZZZ's attempts at that so far (1.4 and 2.5), both the buildup and execution was way better

#

all told though, quite good and happy with it, ||even though rover turning into a hapless muppet and fractsidus once again proving they are the dictionary definition of "just according to keikaku" drives me up a goddamn wall. i want to punch cristoforo and his stupid smug fucking face so hard that he has to spend all his time writing a new script that can repair his skull instead of pulling more of his stupid bullshit||

#

anyway thanks for coming to my TED talk, wuwa continues putting out mostly bangers (still not over them fumbling the iuno story though)

digital marlin
#

Time for 3.0 for you

rapid bough
#

i've still got the closing chapters/epilogue of rinascita to go

#

and i technically already did half of 3.0, the part with lynae

#

i did some early access content before last patch ended just to make sure i could finish the limited time events and not miss out on the currency

#

the lynae story was quite good as well

digital marlin
#

Oh yeah. I remember now. I am curious to how that plays out from a beginner stand point

rapid bough
#

it stood out particularly well since i did it right after finishing the 1.0 story which was quite weak

#

doing 3.0 content right after 1.0 felt like playing a different game, the quality gap was crazy

digital marlin
#

That i can tell i still remember how bad most of 1.0 felt. I meant gameplay wise

rapid bough
#

nothing stood out to me as awkward jumping from 1.0 to 3.0, and major story quests have long since started giving you trial characters so being underleveled isn't an issue for progression

#

i will say that the hyvatia story boss took literal years off my life, i was not ready for how hard that thing whooped my ass

#

that probably remains the single most unsatisfying boss fight "victory" i've ever had in a game lol

#

since it doesn't let you lose, just reduces you to 1HP

#

honestly would've preferred that it killed me and forced me to retry and overcome by getting good

digital marlin
#

I meant Having instant access to the new region and skipping straight to it to do the story feel wilds for an open world game

rapid bough
#

if i had done it immediately (like before finishing 1.0) it probably would have felt very odd

digital marlin
rapid bough
#

but the start of lahai-roi came across as mostly standalone, you didn't need much prior story context to follow what was going on

#

at the very least i didn't feel lost

#

so maybe less wild than you may think

#

also, open world or not, the different regions (huanglong/rinascita/lahai roi) are all fairly disconnected

mystic python
#

Yea I left at halfway through the Lupa story, and could start Chisa story -> 3.0 without continuing Rinascita

rapid bough
#

damn how you be leaving halfway through the lupa story

#

that's one of the best story sequences i've seen in the game so far imo

mystic python
#

I lost like 200 pulls getting Cart + her weapon and then the echo grind for her burnt me out

rapid bough
#

ah fair enough

#

gacha giveth and gacha taketh away

rapid bough
#

if she hadn't been there i would've rioted

#

i believe in lupa supremacy

mystic python
#

o yea since you're well past it now, ig I can be a bit more specific on a couple parts I didn't enjoy during Rinascita: ||The build up of Cantarella as this extremely dangerous, conniving person, but she drops everything when we meet her and helps us in every way she can, and then after we stab Cartethyia/Fleurdelis and are about to mourn her death but before I can even start to process sadness the sentinel swings by and says "hey I got a revive for her dw about it"||

#

Ig those bits also contributed to the burnout a lil, story was kinda falling flat for me at that time

#

But it def got better afterward, significantly so in a couple places

rapid bough
#

||i quite liked cantarella, though maybe the cynic in me (who knew she was playable) never even considered the possibility that they'd make a gooner character like her anything less than prime waifu bait lol||

mystic python
#

Yea, it was just really a let down after every other character throwing themselves at us for so long

rapid bough
#

||i do agree the end to cartethyia's arc was a bit of "deus ex sentinel" stuff. obviously she was never going to truly die but they gave the equivalent of a snap of the fingers to full heal with no repercussions and that was jarring||

mystic python
#

||Yea, way too fast, and it felt like it came at 0 cost to us, the player||

rapid bough
#

it's a double-edged sword though, it's what made the conclusion to iuno's story not sit well with me, since ||she's obviously down bad and one of the many characters who immediately trusts rover with every fiber of their being on first glance, but then the entire drama of her story is built on her lying to rover for no apparent reason and never apologizing for doing so. like, if you're gonna make these characters openly roversexual, don't make them do stuff that actively hurts rover without damn good reason||

#

basically, if not handled properly it can actually sabotage a character

mystic python
#

Sounds like I'm missing out on making myself mad by letting my sister play Iuno's story instead (since she likes her the most), but ultimately yea, kinda same reasoning with me and the above examples; there's just too big a disconnect between things sometimes, whether logical/pacing-oriented etc., something just feels missing/glossed over

#

People are cooking up theories about 3.2 story which'd be a good step in the opposite direction, and 3.1 first half's ending was really nice

rapid bough
#

i briefly went to the wuwa subreddit and realized what a huge mistake that was without being caught up to the story, but while i was there it was apparent that the 3.1 story was received very well

versed pawn
#

thats what the tounge model was for i guess

digital marlin
#

It was great probably one of my favorite story patches

rapid bough
mystic python
rapid bough
#

i'd be lying if i said i always knew 100% what was going on in the story at all times

versed pawn
#

just avoid the discussions subreddits

rapid bough
#

they get a bit lost in the sauce sometimes

versed pawn
#

probably true for every gacha game

rapid bough
#

definitely true

mystic python
#

Yea that too, I've gotten very familiar with it through Genshin

rapid bough
#

i was part of the ZZZ discussion subreddit for a bit and then went 2.5 came out they went off the deep end and i unsubbed lol

#

they REALLY hate ye shunguang there

versed pawn
#

mhh

mystic python
#

o boy it's keyword and proper noun spamming time, while we hint at things vaguely enough so we don't write ourselves into a corner later

versed pawn
#

theres is a big overlap of husbando mains on those sub usually

#

and they shit their bed on every female release

#

been like that forever

digital marlin
#

2.0 it felt disconnected at times and stuff kinda goes over your head with how much stuff goes on at times

#

Im not going to talk about 1.0 stories

rapid bough
#

1.0 story was a mess, but 1.1 (mt firmament) was very good imo

versed pawn
#

but as said current patch is really good

#

yeah 1.1 was neat personally

#

1.3 too

digital marlin
#

My firmament was easily the best part.

#

What was 1.3?

rapid bough
#

was 1.3 black shores?

versed pawn
#

shorekeeper

digital marlin
#

Yeah disagree there

rapid bough
#

i was fine with it but honestly it didn't sit super well with me

versed pawn
#

as for what i remember at least

digital marlin
#

Was.just going to mention it.

versed pawn
#

technically i mostly remember patches as a whole more so then just the story

#

believe it or not my most hated patch was still 2.3

rapid bough
digital marlin
#

It felt like the someone put the story on 2x speed with pieces cut off

rapid bough
#

it felt like they tried to shove a fuckton of lore density into a single patch that was not nearly long enough to hold it

versed pawn
#

still have to 3.1 tho starting today i guess

#

decided to do zzz last weekend

rapid bough
#

like lupa story was 2 chapters long and that worked very well for it to sort out all the weird stuff that was happening

#

the shorekeeper storyline would've benefitted a lot from that same structure

versed pawn
#

im personally a hater of them doing mainstory continuations with a 3 week seperation in the same patch

rapid bough
#

i mean full disclosure i probably would hate that too lol

#

i have the benefit of being able to binge through it all right now

#

and it works really well in that context

#

though they've done complex long story chapters before

#

cartethyia was hella long and that was all one patch

versed pawn
#

mhh cartheyhias was like 5-6 hours right

#

i dont remember it being longer at least

digital marlin
#

I understand why you would be but I'm alright with it

rapid bough
versed pawn
#

generally to avoid spoilers

rapid bough
#

feel like individual story chapters are usually in the 3-4 hour range

versed pawn
#

i like to have it all otherwise i would wait 3 weeks into a patch and then paly it all at once

#

still having a hardtime to avoid spoilers for 3.1

digital marlin
#

The individual parts are long enough that feels like the old patches

mystic python
#

It's kinda just a 6 week release schedule but double tbh, but yea 3 weeks means there's twice as many chances to be unable to do a new story segment day 1, meaning double the chance to be spoiled

versed pawn
#

and as said im very pleased with the current zzz patch hope they can keep it up like that right now

rapid bough
#

i still need to play through the new ZZZ story

#

...and the new gfl2 story. and catch up to wuwa.

#

god what have i done to myself

versed pawn
#

i play 4 big gachas

#

well at least it doesnt get to dry in between because i have at least most of the time 1 story patch

digital marlin
#

Wuwa and zzz patches are to close together for me

mystic python
#

I'm on 3 gachas and it's already getting too much

#

Doesn't help that wuwa had a lot of catchup for me as well

rapid bough
#

yeah the biggest killer is catch up lol

#

individual story patches and content are a labor of several hours

#

catching up on multiple of those is a multi-day affair

runic ether
#

4 gachas is def a lot but i just periodically pay attention between them

#

what helps is a waning interest in genshin even tho i did like lantern rite/zibai this patch

#

for being an open world game... the latest region is wayyy too small

#

nod krai as a whole has been much too small to me i didnt expect natlan or sumeru type of big but like... it feels only a bit bigger than an area like enkanomiya or the chasm and these are sub areas to a main patch

#

also limbus is p good as a quick play type game

#

so i can focus on endfield + zzz more properly

mystic python
#

Doesn't really leave much to actually explore

runic ether
#

tried not using it and it was still p easy to hit like 60%

#

at least the ost has not missed for exploring nod krai

versed pawn
runic ether
#

lowkey... endfield music has been just okay

#

out of all the gachas i play... weakest soundtrack. still good but... im spoiled by genshin, zzz, and limbus

versed pawn
#

Gotta wait I guess

digital marlin
#

I'm tempted to post music from 3.1 eyes but I don't want to spoil Khaios

mystic python
glossy latch
#

Ok at this point HSR is just mocking me >:[

#

Still no 5*

sharp swan
#

Gotta be my fav patch now

glossy latch
#

||Their plan failed, they just moved on to the next one rather than moping about it||

#

||But I will admit it isn't conveyed the best that that's what they were going for||

#

||This is a common issue with their writing of the Fractsidus sadly||

#

||But hey, glad you enjoyed the Rinascita finale, it was my personal favourite story in WuWa so far||

silver osprey
#

Huh

toxic cloud
#

Whoa

late canopy
#

Smells like a Mihoyo money commission to me

slow raft
mortal iron
#

i feel like ive been in the genshin cutscene for 10 years

#

oh my god can i get to the dottore boss fight already

silver osprey
versed pawn
#

not going to deep into it but this kinda made my day

rapid bough
# glossy latch ||Their plan failed, they just moved on to the next one rather than moping about...

||idk, they literally say something along the lines of "we achieved all our objectives in huanglong and rinascita, time to move on to lahai-roi". and scar can't stop gushing about how cristoforo's script off without a hitch, exactly as planned ||

||i suppose it'd be more accurate to say that their plans are always set up in such a way that they always win. in rinascita, either they revive leviathan and drown rinascita in the dark tide, or leviathan is stopped which also serves their overarching goal which seems to be related to breaking humanity free of the yoke of sentinels/threnodians and letting them seize their own destiny. narratively the writers seem to be going for the "they're not strictly evil" angle (which i don't buy, or at least i think their means designate them as quite evil regardless of how noble their goals are), but their developing motivations are at least interesting. i'm just very sick of this rigamarole where everything rover & co do plays into their hands regardless of outcome. ironically, despite their whole "overcome fate" shtick, they are operating like fate would, stringing the story along on a predestined path to serve their own mysterious ends||

glossy latch
#

||Wasnt it more along the lines of "we accomplished what we could, now its time to move on"?||

rapid bough
#

||that's not what i remember hearing, i remember it being very explicitly about them accomplishing everything they set out to do||

glossy latch
#

Ah no, youre right

#

||I do think its because their goals are flexible and either outcome works for them but, yeah, I can see how it would be annoying||

rapid bough
#

||even an offhanded comment to the effect of "well it's not the optimal result, but we still got the bare essentials to move forward" would go a long way||

#

||some indication, any at all, that anything rover & co did represented a significant setback. otherwise it just feels like we're shadowboxing||

glossy latch
#

Yeah I can see that

rapid bough
#

||they're basically the kings of "i'm playing both sides so i always come out on top" lol||

glossy latch
#

Mmh

slow raft
rapid bough
#

||i mentioned that they reminded me of the exaltists during my last wuwa story rant lol

imo fractsidus are actually way worse about it though, but they have the benefit of actually having good/interesting characters so my investment in them isn't completely blown||

#

||also, at least the wuwa story is putting in some legwork to portray the fractsidus with arguably noble goals even if their means suck ass. they never got that far with the exaltists, they were just crazy assholes who wanted everyone to be "refined" into ethereals||

glossy latch
#

Maybe theyll be better about it in Lahai-roi

#

I havent gotten that far yet

#

I think it also helps that the Fractsidus are basically the secondary antagonists, whereas the Exaltists were the primary ones

rapid bough
#

it really doesn't feel like they're secondary antagonists even if it's technically true (since what we're always actually fighting is the threnodians)

#

since while stopping the threnodian is our ultimate goal every time, the fractsidus are literally always on some accelerationist bullshit forcing us to hurry and narrowly avert disaster. basically every imminent calamity we encounter is their fault

glossy latch
#

Overall overarching, usually secondary

glossy latch
#

Also if you want a faction like the Fractsidus but they actually suffer setbacks and show it, can I interest you in a game series called "Trails"

long tree
slow raft
digital marlin
#

Berserker left out

toxic cloud
digital marlin
#

Assassin to

toxic cloud
#

Regend...

summer hornet
#

Did they replace Assassin with Mylnar or am I hallucinating

#

Oh that's Gil

#

Lmfaooooo NVM

rapid bough
#

jesus christ i said i was maybe going to pull for galbrena since she was awesome in story but i didn't realize she is yet another fusion character

#

i'm currently struggling with whether to pull for any sig weapons this early on since i really should be filling out my roster more first

#

but even for filling out my roster i'm struggling since pulling current limited characters puts me into an "oops! all fusions!" scenario lmao

digital marlin
#

Oh yeah forgot to.mention that

rapid bough
#

i guess chisa isn't fusion, but i also don't have any of her ideal team members yet

glossy latch
#

Oh you do

#

Aemeath is one of them lmao

rapid bough
#

isn't there a missing third member to that team right now

#

i.e., fusion burst aemeath style doesn't quite have all the pieces assembled yet

digital marlin
#

Chisa is just in a weird place right now

simple wind
glossy latch
#

Maybe this regions rover, but that one is a big ol questionmark rn

rapid bough
#

rover (fusion), just what i need, another fusion option icant

glossy latch
#

Hey that means you can run Chisa Aemeath and mono fusion Galbrena nyaruhodo

rapid bough
#

missing out on lynae really sucks for my aemeath team options

glossy latch
#

Eh, you have Lupa nyaruhodo

#

Just gotta find a good third fusion unit

digital marlin
#

Hes has moryne

rapid bough
#

yeah i have a perfectly fine mono fusion team with aemeath/lupa/mornye

#

my issue is that i only have one lupa and infinite fusion characters lol

#

if i had lynae i could run aemeath/lynae/mornye and use lupa elsewhere (like w/ galbrena)

#

oh well, standard struggles of having an incomplete roster since i just started

glossy latch
#

Fair

rapid bough
#

galbrena at least looks like a pretty self-sufficient character that can work just fine with standard supports like shorekeeper

#

so may just end up doing mono fusion aemeath, and "standard goodstuff" galbrena with like... galbrena/shorekeeper/mortefi

glossy latch
#

Would work I suppose

rapid bough
#

guess i'm not pulling any sigs like i thought i would

#

just gonna save for galbrena

#

and switch standard weapon banner to the 3.0 pistols for her

glossy latch
slow raft
#

honestly, as much as i despise weapons in gacha, im glad that endfields weapon banner is entirely seperated from the character banner and you can just buy weapons outright with the weapon pull currency

rapid bough
glossy latch
#

Plus next patch I figure youre skipping

rapid bough
#

who's releasing next patch, do we even know

#

i know i want ms. academy president, whenever she releases

#

lucilla i think her name is?

glossy latch
#

Sigrika (the redhead), and Qiuyuan and Phoebe reruns

rapid bough
#

ah

#

yeah that's probably a skip

#

though qiuyuan is admittedly badass

#

i'm a sucker for the blind swordmaster archetype

#

also isn't qiuyuan one of galbrena's BIS teammates lol

glossy latch
#

-ish

#

He's the best standalone character but the mono-fusion shell is probably a touch stronger

#

But if you want to have another team that isnt mono-fusion

#

Yeah hes a fair pick

rapid bough
#

eventually my roster will be such that aemeath won't be locked to mono fusion and free lupa up for galbrena so i probably won't worry about it

glossy latch
#

Up to you

rapid bough
#

on the subject of pulling for sigs, is there any particularly splashable sig among those available on this starter banner

selectable sigs are: shorekeeper, camellya, jinhsi, changli, jiyan, yinlin, zhezhi, xiangli yao

#

i'm reading yinlin's sig (stringmaster) is one of the best generic rectifiers for DPS

#

but not sure it's worth pulling just for that since i'm not even sure how many DPS rectifiers i'll be using any time soon lol, i basically only have encore and i think she's getting shelved as soon as i get galbrena

glossy latch
#

Yinlin is the obvious one thats generic, yeah

#

Changlis might be fine

#

Realistically Id say just save for the time being, you get a guaranteed weapon on any weapon banner

digital marlin
#

I feel.like EoG serves fine for a generic sword thought

glossy latch
#

So theres not really any reason to pull on this over the actual signature for a character for the time being

rapid bough
#

yeah that's what i was thinking

#

might just yoink aemeath sig and save for galbrena

#

in fact yolo that is what i have decided to do as of this moment

#

i was hoping to follow that up with dropping a multi on aemeath sig and ripping it immediately but it was not to be

glossy latch
#

You are not Misty after all

digital marlin
#

Not with that attitude

glossy latch
#

Youre gonna make me pull for Aemeath at this rate smh

slow raft
rigid pilot
#

I liked her a ton but she's part of why I left HSR for now 😭

#

Could not stand another second on screen of Firefly

digital marlin
#

Dam

slow raft
#

Oh ive also dropped hsr, but for different reasons

rigid pilot
#

Also Planarcadia just sounds so boring. None of the characters appeal to me right now it's kind of wild. Logging in daily is something only FGO earns

glossy latch
#

Ironically its the opposite for me, Im kinda excited for Planarcadia

#

... though I have yet to actually do the story lmao

rigid pilot
#

It is somewhat hard to be excited when they have failed to land the ending of a story well for the past... I'd say three stories. But the setting feels like retreads Penacony anyways which I definitely didn't enjoy

digital marlin
#

I do t think the characters for 4.0 do anything for me yet.

glossy latch
#

Oh Im sure they could fuck it up again

#

Tbh the characters are eh

#

I like Ashveil

#

Im hoping for Sampo SP

digital marlin
#

I can understand that I just go in hoping g they learn from the mistakes and can do better next one

rigid pilot
#

Like I give FGO benefit of doubt a lot because they've handled their stories so well many times even if they have some slop event stories where nothing happens and Agartha

#

But Hoyo has in four stories told me... very little and with rather poor endings. I get it... kinda? Early enough gacha... FGO was far from perfect earlier on too.

#

But at that point... I'll just come back later

idle grove
#

helped that nasu came on to fgo to write some bangers

rigid pilot
#

True!

digital marlin
#

I personally belive there was alot of His and Lo patches for last year but they at least had enough good stories for me to continue believing

rigid pilot
#

Though I'd say even back during... Okeanos... the story was for sure picking up.

idle grove
#

oh definitely

rigid pilot
#

Nasu helping later was just icing on the cake.

idle grove
#

I think it would have been good regardless but nasu really gave it that kick from great into amazing with lb6

rigid pilot
#

LB6 my beloved... I think ultimately, my favorite Lostbelt is LB6 and it may be one of my favorite stories from the Fate franchise as a whole (not all of Type-Moon)

digital marlin
#

Understandable o e of my favs as well

rigid pilot
#

This fuck ass gif 😭

#

I'll try it eventually

digital marlin
runic ether
#

it was guy who mostly sold the game to me
but the onus falls to me now to shill limbus/project moon

slow raft
#

Its spread like an infection to every single person whos played ruina

#

I used to have to shill pm all by myself..

#

Speaking of limbus tho, i was thinking of how hermanns polycule compares to the exhaltists and their tendency to never lose, since they hold kind of a similar role

#

But then i remembered gubum exists

runic ether
#

their tendency to never lose feels a bit more genuine thanks to them having slightly different goals in the end which helped for jia huan/gubo fraud duo and the fact that hermann is legit a step ahead the whole time and we get to see her in said spot.

#

also

#

canto 6, 8, 9 spoilers in respective spoiler marks
canto 6||getting to see asaeah and nelly succeed in getting the bough at the end points to their victory for instance and how more or less that canto was orchestrated by hermann and she gained not only knowledge but a bough and a new competent ally.||

#

canto 8 ||meanwhile, gubo and jia huan got mogged by the sinners but... they did manage to get to their goal in the end even if their route was clearly flawed in their attempt to get it. and we later learn that nelly and ahab were probably moving mountains to help them from the outside ala lccb||

#

canto 9||and the final scene of canto 9 showcasing that even tho they are "winning" they still need to be careful with other powerful groups in the city which scales them in perspective too. they are... very likely, around our own level right now too. which means that just like us, they need to maneuver carefully around the actually powerful groups/individuals in the city and they are being written to keep up on sheer planning and hermann's intellect||

silver osprey
#

I'm just skipping this CM

slow raft
runic ether
#

i'd actually break down

mortal iron
#

is it bad that im so tuned out with genshin story with nod krai

#

that i legit dont know what's going on

runic ether
#

dottore is goated and everyone else goes either out of character or have prior characterization assassinated

runic ether
mortal iron
#

what the fuck we're on the moon

#

is this where i get numeron dragon

turbid olive
#

The absolute worst way to say that. ICANT

#

Mf'er actually made Chocolate Ramen. 💀

digital marlin
glossy latch
#

Wait is Galbrena this patch?

digital marlin
#

Phase 2

glossy latch
#

@rapid bough Im sorry to say it, but you are cooked

rapid bough
#

i knew galbrena was this patch lol

#

that's what i was talking about when i said i'd pull for aemeath sig then save for galbrena

#

since i still have a shitton of unclaimed event/exploration pulls

glossy latch
#

Ooooh

#

Well then youre less cooked

#

Did you get the signature?

digital marlin
#

Khaios is fine

#

My ass is cooked though

glossy latch
#

See thats why I skipped Aemeath for Luuk

#

Now Im not cooked nyaruhodo

mystic python
#

🤝 Cooked if we try and pull for Galbrena gang

rapid bough
wispy goblet
#

I'm thinking they rerun Miyabi with Nangong
and Caesar with SBilly
this is increasing my pull demand significantly

neon ore
#

I was pretty dissapointed that I ramdomly got Fine Motion twice even tho I never really liked her, nut then I remembered Air Shakur is part of her story so everything is worth it

neon ore
#

WAIT SHE DOES THAT SHIT TOO????

mental acorn
glossy latch
#

I swear I'm gonna hit hard pity in hsr at this rate

#

Wtf

neon ore
#

omg her laptop has an All Eyez On Me sticker

digital marlin
#

prefarming echoes for Galbrena is going well

glossy latch
#

How in the fuck

#

I have farmed her echoes for literal weeks

#

I didn't get a single one that good

timber sigil
#

bathilde wtf

wispy goblet
#

spent an hour to improve my score by 577 points

#

I am so bad at the Priest chain parries
I'm always switching mid-sequence instead of parrying
which then triggers QAs which override DAs

mental acorn
#

funny

late canopy
#

Having a very good day 2

#

Bakshin!!

toxic cloud
#

AHHHHH

slow raft
#

アークナイツ/荒蕪ラップランド〜Lappland〜

<韓国 コラボカフェ衣装>

⋆⋅⋅⋅⊱∘──────────∘⊰⋅⋅⋅⋆

休憩しよーか。ドクター。

⋆⋅⋅⋅⊱∘──────────∘⊰⋅⋅⋅⋆

photo…由太さん

#Arknights #明日方舟 #拉普兰德

silver osprey
#

Valley IV is done okbuddy

digital marlin
#

im sorry Oven

wispy goblet
#

spitballing my pull plans

  • Nangong (waifu 5, lighten Yuzuha burden)
  • Caesar (waifu 9)
  • Promeia (tentative waifu 7)
rapid bough
# digital marlin

something i'm not clear on since i don't have the free waveplates to be farming echos yet (everything toward ascending characters/weapons atm)

#

what actually is the difference between a nightmare and non-nightmare version of an echo

glossy latch
glossy latch
#

Its mostly used for the old tacet discord nests

rapid bough
#

i see, so devs making new echoes in the laziest way possible kekw

wispy goblet
#

Do they get any mechanical changes?

glossy latch
#

I think they have different activated skills, and different bonuses as part of their skills?

wispy goblet
#

Do they change the best teams to fight them?

#

If they do
Nangong-Miyabi
Cissia-Caesar
I will have to make decisions

old galleon
#

been getting a lot of elzion pcd runs lately

long tree
#

people are genuinely tweaking about endfield not having endgame off the bat

#

Mf go farm the chests and aurelyne if you need something to do this is not yet a problem

runic ether
#

thats part of the problem. some mfers played the current full game in the first 2 days

slow raft
#

im gonn be honest

#

if you have endgame ready gear by this point

#

you are not well

#

ive heard people complain that the gearing system sucks cause artificing components are limited and have a wekly refresh

#

people actually begging for rng stats on gear pieces because they cannot handle slow and steady progression like dude chill out

#

the only endgame available rn is soloable by 4 stars, take your time

old galleon
runic ether
#

it really plays much better than i expected on mobile

slow raft
#

^

long tree
#

Its a little annoying but the farming is a lot easier than other games

slow raft
#

especially cause you can get selectors for them

#

i still gonna do em last but

runic ether
#

doing factory set ups is also more of the endgame for me atp

toxic cloud
#

I dont actually get how ppl nolifed the entire game in 2 days

ive been playing for like 2 weeks and I'm barely past tutorial IV

runic ether
#

unlocked power plateau too so now i just gotta waste time running cables

long tree
#

Reminds me I still gotta optimise my valley iv layout

runic ether
toxic cloud
long tree
#

I've done all the quests and maxed the outposts but I have a lot of free time rn

runic ether
#

anyone done done with the game rn is kind psycho tho

slow raft
#

ive completed the mains tory but i have so many sidemissions open and i havent even touched the event stories

#

also barely opimized my valley 4 production and for wuling ive just copied Kyo

slow raft
runic ether
#

cant wait for purgatorio where we re traumatize them in new and more fucked up ways

mental acorn
#

fym there's an abno that's just the incarnation of overdue and unfinished assignments icant

runic ether
#

there's an abno that makes you go bald

slow raft
#

アークナイツ/荒蕪ラップランド〜Lappland〜

⋆⋅⋅⋅⊱∘──────────∘⊰⋅⋅⋅⋆

一緒に踊りませんか?

⋆⋅⋅⋅⊱∘──────────∘⊰⋅⋅⋅⋆

photo…由太さん

#Arknights #明日方舟 #拉普兰德

slow raft
#

Like, an opened can of wellcheers is essentially the concept of being crimped (or shrimped in this case nyaruhodo)

summer hornet
toxic cloud
#

Oh regi do you play endfield Ahri7

#

also sorry, retired from fate pensivecowboybread (though I did super tryhard the samurai remnant collab and got all the chars I wanted!)

summer hornet
#

That's all that matters; I'm edging closer to the event horizon of "main story only" myself lol

runic ether
#

you're edging??

summer hornet
#

I am MOVING CLOSER TO

summer hornet
#

Haven't played it in like a week because I'm doing seasonal stints with HSR and Nikke

#

But once the Lycoris Recoil collab is over and I either win or lose the 50/50 for Cerydra I'll come back to it more consistently

#

Not every day, but every other day or so

#

My tablet has Limbus, Arknights, HSR, Nikke, G Gen Eternal and Endfield on it

#

I can't consistently play all those every day

#

And even then, Endfield is just a more active game- can't really "auto" anything

rapid bough
#

why did they randomly make 100%ing this specific zone have absolutely zero leeway, you have to literally 100% every part (all the other zones i've done give some allowance for like 80% supply chests and 100% everything else)

glossy latch
#

Not a fucking clue lmao

#

(It is indeed annoying)

rapid bough
#

lootmapper not showing anything and i followed a video on all the other challenges that don't show on lootmapper and now i'm here

#

pain

glossy latch
#

I do remember being stuck on this region

#

Unfortunately I dont remember how I finished it

rapid bough
#

thomas had never seen such bullshit before

#

i'm so glad they improved finding chests in rinascita/lahai-roi because it fucking SUCKS in huanglong

silver osprey
#

The amount of people complaining that there's no content...

old galleon
astral drift
runic ether
#

this perfectly explains insert fandom here

silver osprey
rapid bough
#

fuck that zone lol

runic ether
digital marlin
#

only got Jinzhou and Mt Firmanet to do

rapid bough
#

i should be doing story right now but i wanted a change of pace from the all gas no brakes lol

#

just exploring and chill atm

#

it's funny to me that you haven't 100%'d huanglong yet

#

how long have you been playing?

digital marlin
#

a year and 2 months

rapid bough
#

just shelved exploration huh

digital marlin
#

2 things i always leave this for the back burner when im low on pulls

#

2nd you already experiencing the other reason why i didnt finish it

rapid bough
digital marlin
#

have loot maper covering all of Jinzhou right now with no Chests popping up

rapid bough
#

lootmapper not finding the challenges/puzzles that make chests appear is hell

digital marlin
rapid bough
rapid bough
#

me with my mono fusion team doing open world huanglong content

digital marlin
#

ah yes

#

the prisms

rapid bough
#

i notice they do not exist in rinascita or lahai-roi lmao

digital marlin
#

i was just going to mention that

#

they dont appear in later regions and more importantly they dont appear in Endgame content

vernal snow
#

limbus does not seem to be available in my region's app store anymore

#

Therefore i cant update my game on mobile, or access it entirely

#

Life is pain

runic ether
#

wtf

#

i saw some ppl mention that its been appearing/disappearing from some regions

vernal snow
old galleon
#

i'm seriously about to call the linaria/aldo/hismena core as braindead as sesta

#

it doesn't quite reach the same ceiling but it is safe and simple as fuck to run

#

does respectable damage on neutral and...that...on weakness

old galleon
#

did a rerun of mul nab-zu to get a turn count, took 26 turns but used yuna instead of yipha, which made it a lot safer

runic ether
#

kodya solo of faelantern is how i imagine lob corp employees were moving with waw level gear

glossy latch
#

... Im at 80 rolls into Yo Guangs banner now

#

No 5 star

#

Wtf

#

81 rolls for a 5*, smh

#

At least I actually got Yao Guang nyaruhodo

#

@rapid bough according to leaks ||Lucilla is 3.4 second half, right after the Cyberpunk Edgerunners collab in first half||

digital marlin
#

I completely forgot bout Cyber punk edge runners collab

glossy latch
#

Yeeep

#

Looks to be Lucy and Rebecca?

silver osprey
#

This isn't even the capstone ID wtf

slow raft
#

actually 9 coins is insane, even with the elimination of coin power

silver osprey
#

He also buffs Don neuroSoCute

pastel bear
#

poise???

#

I need to reinstall limbus right now

silver osprey
#

Yeah the Index members are all poise sinking

#

But more poise than sinking

pastel bear
#

this new account has nothing but zwei gregor

#

from humble beginnings I suppose

rapid bough
#

first multi on standard banner at the full 90 away from pity, koleda 4 pulls in lmao

#

i guess i can't be mad since this is objectively hella lucky, but also this is like m4 koleda and I WANT HER FUCKING WENGINE

mental acorn
#

furioso is sinking count neutral if he has the indulgence status that's crazy

rapid bough
#

it probably affects my pulling plans... i haven't watched edgerunners but i'm a collector and will feel obligated to pull for units that will likely never come back

runic ether
#

but goodbye bl yi sang

mental acorn
#

oh we get the new MD this week too

silver osprey
#

Think Kimsault also lost all his good BL IDs

silver osprey
#

Which means don't forget to do a MD run before maintenance

runic ether
#

finallyyy

mental acorn
#

cannot believe I'm going to see the day flask and maggots are usable

#

oh this is cute

silver osprey
#

Btw the new MD title was custom made by Ezra icant

#

"Mirror Dungeon of Names and Spiders"

mental acorn
#

pause champ

#

when do they usually drop hardmode, a week after?

silver osprey
#

KJH copying arknights homework again clearly

slow raft
#

Im a bit confused at all the people angry on twitter that they are releaseing sinking/poise ids during "burn season". Did i miss something? When was this season said to be a "burn season"?

runic ether
#

no ppl are just delusional thinking it would be a burn season

mental acorn
#

3 was poise, 4 sinking, 5 bleed, 6 rupture, so surely 7 would be the burn season, trichiliocosm even inflicts it

#

the humble fingers:

#

we have got some good images out of it though

summer hornet
#

I’m the fool and the clown who bet on a burn season

runic ether
rapid bough
#

a post on the nikke subreddit reminded me

nikke c44 spoilers ||i genuinely hate liveryn so much. i honestly think i hate her more than crow. at least crow knows she's awful and admits what she does is fucked up, she's just a psychopath anarchist who wants to watch it all burn. liveryn meanwhile is on like five different layers of denial and wants to do anything to avoid the consequences of her actions and perpetually plays the victim. fragile was a real one for jumping her and getting some punches in, if i were the commander i would've been cheering her on instead of breaking it up||

versed pawn
# digital marlin

on the point where the lootmapper is should be a npc quest i think with those relay towers arround the huanlong if u activate them he spawns chests if i remember correctly

#

its probabaly also your missing quests

rapid bough
#

supply chests are definitely the smallest increment of exploration%, they're for rounding out the last 20 or so % after doing all the other stuff like quests, caskets, etc

#

of course they also have pull currency so i neurotically try to get all of them despite it being certifiably insane behavior to try and do so (in huanglong at least)

runic ether
#

hmmm i just noticed... yi sang's orlando furioso has burn instead of bleed in comparison to the original skill

#

yall

#

burn season is back

slow raft
#

Btw, that 5 percent chance to roll tails is really gonna rear its ugly head on a 9 coin skill

silver osprey
#

It's a 37% chance to roll one tails

glossy latch
#

Well, Elation is certainly accurate to Aha

#

... Im not sure how they make it not be incredibly annoying for the rest of the games lifespan

runic ether
glossy latch
#

Also I have the vision: Sampo wins the Phantasmoon games and becomes Aha for one minute, and uses it to exclusively fuck with Sparkle (also this is the playable version we get, and it lets him change the Aha gimmick directly)

#

... someone needs to tell Hoyo designers that pants exist

slow raft
#

god they fucking love their assymetry, dont they

glossy latch
#

Poor Alice

slow raft
#

i can fw it sometimes but hoyoverse has a terminal case of doing the same design over and over

glossy latch
#

True!

runic ether
# glossy latch

and u just know she's never gonna be playable cus her top is too covered up

slow raft
#

kinda reminds me of that one bartender lady on penacony that mogs at least half the cast of that planet disastrously but will never be playable

glossy latch
#

God I am mad about that

#

Siobhan is one of their best designs

slow raft
#

true!

runic ether
#

she was doomed from the start

slow raft
#

like i def have a type but you cannot tell me that shes not smoking hot

glossy latch
#

One of the rare Hoyo characters that I think is very attractive yes

#

She also has a nice voice

pastel bear
#

but I can see it

runic ether
#

its wild to me that they got xiao's (genshin) va to voice her when he is one of their most popular characters of all time and then... never released her

slow raft
#

i tell you, someone high up at hoyo is deathly scared of women in pants

glossy latch
#

Also not shocked to find out that she is very popular with the lesbians

#

At least if the comments under a video of her introduction are to be believed

slow raft
runic ether
#

nah she is extremely popular with women

glossy latch
slow raft
runic ether
slow raft
#

not to do the same rant again but hsr still having no non-humanoid playable chars is such a waste

runic ether
#

set up for a comedy sketch: tell the playerbase the game will be intergalactic in setting
introduce zero non-human playable characters

slow raft
#

entire setting of hsr couldve been done in the city and it wouldnt have lost anything of value really

runic ether
#

it couldnt

glossy latch
#

Tbh I am not even as bothered by them all being humanoid, its the fact that theyre basically all humans with extremely minor differences

#

Like Svarog is humanoid but at least hes cool

runic ether
#

because a distortion would be way too inhuman for the design

slow raft
#

i mean in like

#

the same space

runic ether
#

oh

#

yeah

#

probably lol

slow raft
#

the planets might as well be districts

glossy latch
#

Basically

runic ether
#

even then i think the city has significantly more alien-like variety than anything hsr has made

glossy latch
#

I mean it clearly worked for them given the amount of money HSR makes but like

#

Really?

slow raft
runic ether
#

she also had a killer suit she was wearing that she took off for the same hoyo dress yet again

slow raft
glossy latch
#

Youre gonna have to state which game specifically you mean lmao

runic ether
#

pearl hsr

glossy latch
#

... she's a robot?

slow raft
#

she got like

runic ether
#

yes she's an intellitron

slow raft
#

joints

runic ether
#

we've known this

slow raft
#

like herta

glossy latch
#

Huh

#

I didnt

#

I will say, for all the shit I give HSR

#

THerta is still a banger design

runic ether
#

ineffa is the most robot-like girl they've ever made

#

and thats kind of sad

slow raft
glossy latch
#

Big hat™ was obligatory

#

But I like her design even beyond that

slow raft
glossy latch
#

The key and lock motifs are great, the hands as a general magical motif are also quite creatively used and shes got a great colour scheme

slow raft
#

becuase there are sentient robots in the setting

runic ether
#

i like acheron the most out of hsr's designs by far

runic ether
glossy latch
#

For me its Svarog

#

Then THerta

#

Then ...

slow raft
#

limbus atleast has the ai ethics amendment so we cant have true robots

glossy latch
#

Sam kinda? I guess?

#

Barely a rider but good enough

slow raft
#

sam SadChamp

glossy latch
#

Or Anaxa

#

Oh and Phainons ult is cool tbh

#

But most of them are just

#

Idk, kinda eh

runic ether
#

for me its probably acheron > aglaea > therta > phainon

glossy latch
#

Svarog still mogs everyone though ngl

runic ether
#

i would have loved feixiao if designed properly

#

idm the shorts

glossy latch
#

Actually sick robot design

runic ether
#

just give her fucking abs

#

svarog actually looks great yea

#

i dont count him as playable entirely but i do like his look

pastel bear
slow raft
#

is there even a lore explanation why nobody has abs in hsr?

glossy latch
#

Also will say, Genshins characters lately have had lower lows but higher highs too tbh

#

Flins actually made me consider returning

runic ether
glossy latch
#

As did Illuga

slow raft
glossy latch
#

... Illuga moreso from a "oh hes very cute" perspective

runic ether
#

illuga is very pretty no yeah

#

i was surprised he was a 4 star

#

insane facecard

glossy latch
#

I was surprised he is canonically an adult

#

I figured they'd make him a minor as well lmao

runic ether
#

we have very very few minors in genshin

#

off the top its p much just... klee, sayu, and yaoyao

glossy latch
#

Mika?

runic ether
#

nope

#

he's employed

glossy latch
#

... huh

runic ether
#

same with diona

glossy latch
#

Ok but that could still be child labour

runic ether
#

she's a bartender

#

mondstat had laws around that iirc

glossy latch
#

Huh

runic ether
#

its the city of freedom but its stated somewhere they need to be of age to work

glossy latch
#

But yeah idk, WuWa is the only one whose designs I consistently think are decent at worst

runic ether
#

knights of favonious specifically

slow raft
#

god remeber when people were calling sinclair a minor?

glossy latch
#

Of the ones I've played that is

slow raft
#

hes just a very angry short german man alright

runic ether
#

oh i count nahida as a minor even if shes over 500 and very wise

slow raft
#

doesnt make him underage

runic ether
#

because she is baby

#

but even then i saw on his file that it says he was an adult

runic ether