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S11 / Soldier 11 just received a buff in Zenless Zone Zero.
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@digital marlin found an interesting piece of environment in the new region
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Also I wish I knew about the new echo nests two days ago
Thats two days worth of potential Lynae echoes I accidentally skipped >.>
(And I am still working on the echoes >.>)
and this is how i found about the new echo sets
... you didnt think they would make new echo sets?
well no i knew about the Echo sets i mean the echo nests
i figured we simply be back to how old the Echo farm spots were for 3.0
Oh yeah I also learned about them today because I ran into one
And checked the tab afterwards (theres 2)
24 and 48 echo spawns respectively
Split across 3 sets though
huge fgo spoilers for post raid
||god this is so fucking sad man Nasu is an evil person
Will the apple finally be an actual WAW
Pulled in 20 rolls. 
i thought that was maribel hearn
i still have 908 gold apples left 😭
huh... ishmael is somewhat like maribel and renko's lovechild
same -- ||not quite an evil groza, since she seems to have purposefully left kalina and soppo alive. but the mystery behind groza's past only grows(a lmao)||
i actually had it spoiled by the last hard mode stage boss fight lmao
and lenna's event, to an extent
I'm assuming that ||the groza we have isn't the original one because of the missing memories from before she was found||
||lenna's event also spoiled that zimmerman was a bad guy, though it was already set up early in part 1 that he clearly had ulterior motives||
||likely, and that would explain why she reacted when the commander was mentioned and why she'd spare kalina and soppo||
||i think what they started building with robella--that she's becoming more humanlike and basically developing genuine emotions--is going to be important for all these gen 3 dolls that seem to be aligned against us. they all seem to enemies but are actually playing their own game, from cocoon, to darture, to (what i assume is) groza. and obviously we have the remains of sextans on the elmo too. blusphere seems to be the odd one out as one who listens to orders and kills shit without question||
||also cocoon's design is too good for her to not become playable, surely
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overall was a big fan of deep oblivion, i think that's my new favorite 2-parter event so far
deep oblivion > aphelion > mimisbrunnr's loop > sojourners
the first half was kind of draggy but the second half cooked big time
though i've noticed that's true of gfl2 events in general, they take extra time building up for their payoffs
sometimes too much extra time... it can get a bit indulgent with meaningless worldbuilding and character details
but "what buildup was necessary" is only really possible to reflect on with the full picture, and now with the full event done i think most of it was for the better
that said, ||i think the major reveal near the end that leva had forgotten UMP40 fell completely flat for me since i haven't played the first gfl. i think that was meant to be a big "oh shit" moment for gfl1 enjoyers||
||yeah it is kind of a big thing||
Playing some more genshin cause why not, they made getting resources a lot easier damn
yep
FGO YOU REALLY WERE WORTH DESTROYING THE JAPANESE GAMING INDUSTRY FOR
What's the context
fgo part 2 finale
I see
JP players oomf are going through it on the TL while i am spinning lotto boxed being cheered on by Santa Marines lol we live in parallels universe
i've been mostly chilling this christmas, mainly using natural ap with some apples
evne with that my gold caster gems should be decent by the end, since they drop out of the 90++
okay
I have secured +25% DMG buff with Zhao
it could be better
but I will accept this
i haven't even looked into prefarming for zhao
what wengine is best for her, besides her sig
Transmorpher is the easy next choice
you could do an ER-mainstat w-engine but A. there are no ER-mainstat Defense w-engines and B. you can roll HP% substats on an ER6 but you can't roll ER on an HP6
Tusks of Fury gives decently similar buffs to sig and the nerds have calced Tusks 1 to be more team damage than Transmorpher 5 at the same substats
as if i have caesar sig
if Half-Sugar Bunny 1 is 100%
Transmorpher 5 is 85-86%
Tusks of Fury is 90%
practically speaking
it looks like M0W1 Zhao performs about on par, if slightly below, M0W0 Astra outside of Ye Shunguang teams
that doesn't sound practical since i will not be getting w1 zhao
astra testing with kaboom instead of bashful demon 
everyone assumes Kaboom
I don't think it changes much either way
maybe Kaboom slightly outperforms?
afaik it doesn't, the two are very close
i've always used bashful since i didn't even have kaboom for the longest time
people are already speculating that we'll get another Ether Veil setter that synergizes more directly with Ye Shaggy Ultra Instinct
how do you live with typing out "ye shaggy ultra instinct" every time you mention her
oh crap i forgot that's still on
it'll partly depend on if we get any more Ether Veil variants
right now the only two Ether Veils we have are Wellspring (everyone but Ye Scooby Doo) and Cleansing (Ye Scooby Doo)
is shunguang really that hard to type
or whatever the final localization was
I don't actually remember and no one says it
typing out "ye scooby doo" and "ye shaggy ultra instinct" is objectively more effort than shunguang lol
based on my pull situation I only have a 60% chance or so of getting Ye Ye Ass Haircut the day she drops
very unfortunate
i wasnt sure about skipping her a while back. now i will 100% skip her for a jane rerun
if i don't win the 50 on YSG i will have to do some major soul searching about what i want from this patch
You think Jane (and Qingyi and Burnice) being on the selector increases or decreases their chances for a sooner rerun
i have a banked wengine guarantee but i don't have the pulls to spare on it unless i get lucky elsewhere
being on the selector definitely pushes it to be less likely they rerun any time soon
but... one can cope
my priority atm is looking like YSG > sanby > alice > YSG sig > sanby sig > alice sig
they dont really have too many more characters left to rerun
luckily, one of sanby/alice will be guaranteed on first S rank pull due to how the banner works
being on the selector and having her wengine i could realistically get m2 jane with a rerun
m2w1
then i'll have alice exodia
I'm definitely going to secure YSG and Astra by the end of the patch unless even the low pull estimates are overestimates
the hard part comes in how far my pulls will go
and if the selector is reasonably priced for my budget
plan for that selector requiring like $100+ of spending
the legendary $200 weapon skin
yeah thats the most likely scenario, but i wouldnt be surprised if it is a bit lower/higher
the selector isn't the final tier
for whatever that portends
zzz doesnt has the pull of hsr to do a $200 one
when the patch drops i'm getting the season pass and as many months of the monthly polys as it'll let me
and we'll see where that puts me on progress toward the selector
it allows 3 iirc
isn't it up to 180 days?
is it? i was under the impression you could only bank 90
could be wrong
180 is the number in my head for some reason
hmmm
idr
i think they were all the same across hoyo games
or maybe it was genshin that was weird
well actually you can take it all the way to 209 depending on how the dates fall
i think it is purely genshin being weird
i'll have like 3 days left when the patch drops, so i'll be able to get 6 lots for almost exactly 180 days
speaking of
I am quite fortunate
my renewal date is the day after the new patch
i havent renewed mine since the end of 2.2
i'm gonna be buying those monthly polys anyway so may as well get the progress toward whatever rewards are on the whale track
6 monthly refreshes + season pass is $40
was waiting for a spending event more or less
if that's within 20-ish of the selector i might just swipe to get it
but if i need to pony up like $50+ i'll just let it go
yeah
I was feeling a little crazy
but the decision was made for me
zhao pieces...?
ye
not bad at all
Astral 4 is okay if you get sig
but I haven't committed to getting it
sig on a defender... yeah no thanks
I'll reach 21,387 HP
which gives 25% DMG buff for the team
out of a max 40%
i'm not sure how much i'll even use zhao, it'll depend on whether the content has me using eve elsewhere (since astra is locked to her)
zhao is def awk
currently i'd only ever realistically use zhao with YSG, and only if astra is unavailable
for me too cus i do have astra and yuzuha
and then my other teams have their niche supports already...
changing her last bonus passive trigger from Rupture to Support was an inspired move... to drastically limit her versatility 
not even Stunner
i mean they got rid of her sheer force buff didn't they
without that she's booty cheeks with rupture anyway
yep
yeah that was part of her very early iteration where she was much better for Rupture than anythign else lamo
gutted her for rupture from day 1
err
not day 1
but u know
first patch
which is...a choice for sure
with sig she still gives less Sheer than M6 Pan
although her other buffs are slightly better
honestly comes down a little to her Astral being a little better than Pan's
but I think Pan will still edge her out outside of maybe Yidhari but Yidhari is weird because you either sacrifice Zhao bonus passive or a stunner
so you are sacrificing Zhao's bonus passive
all to run Lucia elsewhere
but i guess they are okay letting pan users keep using him
tbh I wonder if they are going to give another kind of Ether Veil
if they were going to give an Ether Veil with a direct Attacker buff, this was a good opportunity
i'm sure they will
the Angels of Delusion EV setter (if they get one) will likely buff Anomaly if it's not another Wellspring
couldn't care less what the virtual idols do tbh
i've been lukewarm on some of the ZZZ designs these last few patches, but angels of delusion haven't interested me at all since they were first teased
even if they turn out to be hella OP i'm skipping
I'll probably end up skipping them since I don't gel with their vibe
but we haven't had their story patch yet
and I'm always a sucker for unique gameplay styles
design is the most important component of getting me to pull for a character
it's not a high bar to set either
i pulled lucia and her design is the definition of mid, ofc she's the rupture support so that's where other pulling motivations coming in (gameplay, roster power, etc)
so when i say the angels of delusion do nothing for me, i mean they do nothing for me
they're the closest ZZZ has gotten to a design that has negative interest for me
it helps that i have a pretty complete roster though
for however much i dont like shunguang, i like the angels way less
even if they are account defining im skipping
I will wait for gameplay and rerun news
but i am the mark for what they're doing with YSG
most gf-coded character they've released
the date event actually turned me off shunguang more than it helped. she feels too unbelievable for me as a character
mostly cus ik they wont go the route i'd like for them to go with her
cus hoyo wouldnt have confidence in doing that to their players
honestly i've come around to somewhat coping that they will, at least a little bit
they would never make her fully forget the proxies but with how much they're building the "let's make memories with YSG" i can increasingly see them making her forget those events
she will "lose her memories!" but the proxies will get them back!
and i dont mind this, if only they also add the caveat that she just doesnt remember the proxies at all. ik they wont go there. or the more obvious route of consequences being her forgetting everything outright.
They told us there's an event where we help Ye Scooby Doo with the Qingming Sword
Nobody ever dies in Nikke loses their memories in ZZZ
she will "lose her memories!" but the proxies will get them back!
this will 100% happen but i think the "how" is important
i think you're picturing this as "she forgets throughout the story, and then we fix everything at the end and her memories all come back at once"
i think a more likely scenario is that whatever is done to free her from the side effects of the qingming sword doesn't immediately return her memories, and she has to slowly regain them
i doubt they even go that far
that said, i've def been really down on hoyo's writing as a whole as of late. they've been bad with genshin and hsr
so it is hard to trust
my wild ("wild") prediction is that they're gonna face-turn Sarah
remember the "even if this world is flawed, it's worth saving" line Ye Shiyuan says in the trailer
that's 80% directed at Sarah
especially now that we know her motivations
what gets me is that we're in the middle of an actual discussion of her future story and you're still calling her "ye scooby doo" lol
they're gonna face-turn Sarah
idc what they do with her, she's beyond redemption
and part of me does want to give benefit of doubt to zzz writers but they also did 1.7 and they've handled memory loss with s11 badly and we had a patch for obol squad to address the elephant and nothing happened.
the handling of obol is/was tragic no doubt
to be clear i was making the same assumptions as you pre-YSG trailer
but the presentation and storyline of the YSG trailer made me think they're going a more bittersweet route with YSG's story
no one is beyond redemption if they'll sell well enough : ^)
lol
tbc, i dont want her to redeemed. i find whatever is wrong with her way hotter.
give us playable sara as-is
can you imagine those trust events
all so i can cope harder that isolde and pompey will be playable with their ethereal forms as transformations
I'm 200% expecting a playable Sarah to use Miasma and Creator-based powers and such
"hey sarah how's it going"
"feeling like i might genocide a whole town for the creator today, idk, might delete later"
okay hear me out on this cope:
pulchra kind of treats us like shit in all her events
well not all
i thought she was only particularly frosty in the first one tbh
but it isnt exactly unprecedented to have us have somewhat rocky of a relation with a playable already
in world events, she will basically guilt trip us to get her a drink
but like
i know this is
pulchra ends up being the proxy's friend lol
very different from
you can't really do that with sarah
"im gonna kill people for my religious beliefs" kind of evil
vs a "im just an asshole sometimes"
but
theres a chance
This is the strongest cope ive seen in a while
And i know multiple people who still think isolde could be playable
how are you coping on that and can't see an outcome where they make YSG's story not have a perfect fairy tale ending lol
because i want isolde and pompey playable more than i'd care about shunguang even if her story was handled well
i mean isolde/pompey playable is way more likely than "still a religious fanatic" sarah playable lol
pompey wasn't a bad guy in the first place, and isolde at least realized she fucked up at the end
idk... i feel strange about sara for sure and i think...
hmm
i feel like the reasoning is that hoyo has learned with how they handled la signora in genshin
"Fucked up" is a bit of an understatement
Sarah's story is how she turned to a cult because she was abandoned by her superiors and had nowhere left to go
they can totally run a play where she finds a new sense of belonging that doesn't require her to pursue total entropy for the universe
without needing her to abandon what's been a major part of her life for years now
her death and the cope of her return is still haunting the narrative choices of genshin even now (much to genshin's chagrin)
and in hsr, they do just release more villainous characters
for all we get along, topaz still tried to enslave an entire planet for her corporate overlords
jade is a corporate overlord
ok i don't play genshin or HSR but i just want to say
there's a gaping chasm of difference between "antagonist" and "villain" like we're talking about here
cerydra would have doomed the universe if she wasnt just a teensy bit more reasonable
the dahlia is just a villain outright. hasnt had any real redeeming factors and shes a mess (in a good way)
that sort of stuff just doesn't mesh with the direction ZZZ is obviously going tbh
they'd make this game a dating sim if they could, tell me i'm wrong
ehh maybe? i think even then they'd definitely want to make an evil mommy playable then
they had that sort of opportunity (different gender same idea) with hugo and completely bailed on it
yes kind of? part of me does think sara will be redeemed in general even if she isnt playable
bc even if she would be playable, they wouldnt let her be truly evil
i'm not sure they have the spine to make morally grey characters playable, let alone morally evil ones
i hope pulchra isnt about as evil as they'd go
"evil"
granted that nicole is pretty ambiguous even if we know shes got a good heart
and dialyn and zhao are... not the best individuals
nicole isn't ambiguous at all tbh, even if she can be annoying. she obviously has a heart of gold even if you don't pay attention to her surrounding storyline like donating all of her spare money to orphanages
i've already mentioned that the way dialyn was treated in the 2.4 story kinda pissed me off
since she did some genuinely fucked up things and no one else (in universe) seemed to acknowledge how fucked up they were lol
yeah
which... is not a good sign for how they'd treat sara even if she were to be redeemed
i can... 100% see them going "oh thats in the past now lets go to the movies!"
nah i just can't
especially not after so long as basically the overarching villain
i accept they might try to redeem her but i think she dies in the process or something
also one snag with sarah is that she's not only been an overarching villain who's killed or nearly killed tons of innocent people and the proxies themselves
she's also done that to several of the agent cast too
like wtf would a yidhari/sarah interaction be
"hey remember when i lured you under false pretenses to a hollow then left you there to be eaten by miasma? good times"
sorta same deal with all of yunkui summit
that's the best opportunity for characterization, isn't it?
you can make the argument that the proxies, in their moral perfection, can forgive and work alongside sarah if given sufficient reason and opportunity
but selling that to the entire agent cast, idk man
if we were talking about any setting other than a gacha game, maybe
but in a gacha game, the story must move forward and new characters must be released
which means the "wronged" character in this instance either forgives or gets pushed to the wayside for the duration of whatever they decide to do with sarah
for as varied as the cast is, there has yet to be a character that doesn't slot in to the proxy's polycule easily when necessary
everyone gets along with the proxies and each other so far
hugo is the closest we got to subverting that and it was a fake out because his yaoi energy with lycaon is stronger than any bond between other agents
i can see a future where they introduce a character who's isolated from the rest for whatever reason and thus doesn't really need to get along with them (though that'd limit storytelling opportunities)
but a character like sarah, whose actions have directly or indirectly affected nearly every character in the story?
is tehre a spreadsheet for 90++ node
For lotto? Idk if there is but you can do the first wave with habetrot and then you only need 2 single target nps
I use rider liz and it works
it's 3-1-1 casters, trivial to 6ce
habetrot for the first wave and then your choice of a st system rider for waves 2 and 3
i posted one above where im' using ushi lol
the usual 90++ spreadsheet has more too
can't read kanji, what does that say?
456 is kondo isami
there are still 2 silhouettes on the uhhh
technically part 2 finale spoilers i guess, 460 is a spoiler enemy the game apparently saw fit to add to the servant roster a la goetia, beast kiara, etc
but 456 is clearly shown there
waiting for human TL while farming NA
lineup
so one of them is the welfare
the other is new years?
that's entirely possible
i'm assuming ny will be galahad or ||lord logres||, with the anni being whichever of those two it isn't
Unless we get a random sneak cut of Camazotz or something
finished line 1 bokgak and i think i'm 3 for 3 on guaranteed seasonal id tickets giving me 2 instead of just 1
Now farm mirror dungeon for the next one 
very n corp coded
17 gigs eh
okay so I've largely prefarmed my Astra disks
it comes down to if I roll well enough on my remaining discs
and if I want to stretch for Swing 2
or if I'll settle for Hormone 2
when i was running astral eve, i managed lullaby 4 swing 2 on astra and still hit her ATK threshold
but that was with bashful demon which gives ATK
idk if that's possible with kaboom
probably if you get truly nutty rolls
I'm using Bashful
but ER6
yeah that was with ER6
if I want Swing 2, I need 5 more ATK% rolls across 2 discs
not impossible but a minor hassle to chase
if I go for Hormone 2, I only need 1 more ATK% roll... which I already have available in my storage
woohoo year of the horse
lot of other stuff posted too
granted this was all last night and i only got around to checking it now
basically, new main story arc is released
new story welfare is released before sr lecia got fourth star (again)
new omega-style raid that drops weapons that don't actually boost omega, but rather a new weapon skill type that is so far not boosted by any characters or summons in teh game except the new summons that drop from the raids
grand white knight was revealed, alongside amaterasu
also you can skip story to the start of the new arc
playing new arc of gbf now
crew spoilers ||so far only katalina and rackam have returned; the rest of the crew is looking like narmaya and seox, along with whatever other new people they meet or old people i haven't seen them drop yet||
||well, excluding obligatory lyria and vyrn ofc; they're both still there||
||also idk how it'll reflect in gameplay but there are several new races of characters||
gbf and fgo spoilers ||we just got something pop out of lyria that looks a lot like a chibified fou, so i guess that's where he went after the events of the finale||
||oh also lyria's a mommy now||
can one of you fellas give me the rundown on the FGO ending
i don't know that many of the details myself
i'm sure you can find story summaries on youtube or reddit or even beast's lair
gbf main story crew spoilers: ||mc, lyria, vyrn, katalina, rackam; seox, narmaya, sandalphon (off doing his own thing right now); darydara (welfare harvin), fylkis (levleath girl (new race)), andorinha (fylkis' magishell, basically a robot), phos (dawnlight spirit, another new species)||
that's all that's been shown in the story so far
||notably, io, eugen, and rosetta don't return||
also at some point between me getting on and now, they added quite a bunch of freebies in the crate
I need to start over...
game is literally playable in browser, why is this a thing
esp without account transfer
i'm sorry but that is absolutely goddamn stupid lol
not even available in Japan, lol
ye i saw that too
question is if it still plays on the japanese servers despite that
bc if it doesn't, then
you think fgo has clairvoyance ex
the hypothetical global server, if it starts from day 1, would be 11 years behind
new characters on this banner (it's a flash banner) are amaterasu and bhaisa (grand)
bhaisa's from the zodiac anni event
it's cygames, they'll find a way
priconne global died for less
anyway my grand ticket gave me metera, so at least i got something i didn't already have out of it
1 mono = 1 ticket
7000 for w-engine
10000 for agent
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as expected, i will not be getting the selector
With unofficial storefronts
I can probably get it within $130 before tax
Which is still a lot
I'll see where I'm at near the end of the patch
But I'll probably be skipping too
Getting BP will get me two batteries and a tuning calibrator
same lamo
#neverpunished

40 rolls before pity and won the 50/50, its as if the spirit of misty possessed me
Lucky bastard >:[
awesome
if you laugh you go to hell
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how do you play the character if they dead
QRT: sosonosonosono
my biggest problem with gacha games is that they're all too afraid to kill a character off just because they're a unit
HI3rd
Thank you
You just puppet their lifeless body and parade them around their loved ones
When I think about it I don’t even know if I’d be nonbinary without fgo. Crazy! Thanks Oda Nobunaga
Thank you ishtar pussy eater
what a name
Game has lartoria and barghest and you go for ishtar, your children will not survive the winter
bold to assume they have children
She will not survive the winter either
for fate, although i dont really look at fate
Get in line kid
Barghests artist is malonnyinyi on twitter and you can instantly tell what they are about
Tbf for this it could just be they like akiza because she fits their... interests
i'm not a FGOer but people have posted some barghest art in this chat before and basically
Like the ascension arts are already oushing it but some of th3 ce art is uh
Im suprised they put that in the game
so what i can tell from this artist is, defying gravity must be their favorite wicked song
coz GODDAMN
But then again they also let redrop loose on those so
i didnt know FGO's game my bad
maybe it's worth it to sink 1000 of hours to the grind
Its not
oh i saw this post about fgo jp
The weakest part of fgo is by far the gameplay and i dont think anyone disagrees with that
i have no context for it, but it sounds hilarious
Should probably label this as jp spoilers
I saw some people who are up to date with the fgo story saying ||that itd be incredibly tonedeaf to continue it after this but like, thats the fate franchises main money maker, i heavily doubt thats gonna be the end of it||
I forgot they made stuff after season 2
I heard once that its all alt universe but i never watched any of it
dont worry alot of their fans didnt bother
they checked the resurrection movie and then like maybe 2 people watched roze
I wouldnt call myself a code geass fan, to be clear
like i know some code geass fans, they either didnt finish roze or didnt watch it
Regular checkup spoiler: ||why did they give hohenheim, the guy wrecked by survivors guilt, two subordinates with ego gear that commits suicide?||
It'd be funny
Yeah that sounds about right for you
releases around anni, apparently
i'm not even done with fighter origin grind bc book raids are annoying
What kind of historic figure is origin?
i think it's less a historic reference and more a reference to the in-story boundary
some font of godly power iirc
fighter origin is an incredibly strong class, and i think people are expecting more of the same with the others
(I was making a fate joke)
a bunch of gbf classes are direct historical references so it didn't track
like there's one called chrysaor, for example
(released well before saber medusa lol)
gonna go see if i can do exo 200 without elixirs
the deed is done, tho not everyone survived
either exo vohu is just weak or this wind setup is really resilient
fighter origin/grimnir/y vania/v sandy
ami and raphael in back
TIL there's a new endless mode of exo crucible that starts at level 205
yeah this one ain't happening
205 it starts inflicting cursed ont he party (which prevents healing)
guess i'll be farming 200 for a while then
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ok maybe the proxy silhouette in her cinematic wasn't just an artistic choice to avoid favoring belle vs wise
since they've just straight up gone with wise in both her EP and this one lol
nikke new year stream starts in about 5 hours unless i'm dumb and can't convert time zones properly
idk if i'll be up to watch it live, but maybe
i will not be
but i have hardened my heart to the possibility it will not be anis
shunguang handholding POV is crazy
same energy
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︀︀• If you have obtained the same S-Rank Agent 8 or more times before Version 2.5, the corresponding number of Special Invitation Letters will be reissued via mail after the Version 2.5 update.
︀︀• Besides participating in the limited-time "Filmgoer Thank-You Gift" event, W-Engine Microcontroller Units can currently also be obtained through the New Eridu City Fund or by exchanging W-Engine Chips (W-Engine Chi…
Starting from version 2.5, in addition to receiving Residual Signal ×100 when obtaining the same S-Rank Agent for the 8th time or more, you will also receive Special Invitation Letter ×1.
If you have obtained the same S-Rank Agent 8 or more times before Version 2.5, the corresponding number of Special Invitation Letters will be reissued via mail after the Version 2.5 update.
well that's nice of them
two letters equals one selectable agent
making the choice to let the Blanc gacha skin go
maybe on the rerun
bold of you to assume it will rerun
i see they're missing the 2016 new year servants, arjuna and karna : ^)
It’s funny seeing people’s reactions to cheese drinks in gfl
when zero performance points is something to be proud of
WuWa leaks: ||Lmao the doctor and chief of the medic unit is a main DPS||
https://www.youtube.com/live/9UC0otkeyko
at the top of the hour
📅 Livestream Time: December 29, 19:00 (UTC+9)*Countdown will run from 18:40 to 19:00 (UTC+9)#NIKKE #NIKKE2026NewYear #NIKKELivestream▼Download here🔗: bit.l...
ye, just killing time trying to find a divine horse
until the stream
based
blessed
oh hey this event canonically takes place in the new arc of the story
neat
looking again at the top-up event after they released some of the deals
- six IK memberships = 1800 tickets
- New Eridu battle pass = 680
- Dawn Seeker's Ticket (10-day login pass for $8?) = 240
- Surgelight Invitation Limited Gift = 980
- Exclusive Invitation Gift (or $15 mono) = 980
4680 tickets
41.75 immediate pulls
for $78
you can get the rest of the way to 10k tickets with $81 worth of mono/packages
total spending of $159
Udjat Outis and Index Fau's kits are up
Tremor/sinking and poise/sinking respectively
andersen's va sound slike the old one, i think
SAVIOR OF WATER
That's a lot of reading
2026EATBETTER
hm computer's lagging a bit
Burst: ||https://i.imgur.com/O98m7Ka.png||
||Alice gacha skin||
2026LETSDANCE
||Quency: Escape Queen pass skin||
2026WORKHARDER
I'm not liking the implications of these codes....
the fuck happened to ingrid's voice
had to drop an octave to style on 'em
oh they're all deeper
||Emma: Tactical Upgrade pass skin||
can't hear it over the sound of ||emma's guns||
that's hwo nikke ends
poisoned
2026KEEPTACTICAL
voices are fixed
oh hey, chandelier helm skin is being rerun (among others)
added burst skill to my above post
||TEN SLOTS||
@rapid bough pinging you here for no reason in particular
Laying it on a little thick there, Neon and Anis....
2026HAPPYNEWYEAR
also in that ending bit a bunch of randoms in the stream chat kept spamming about replacing rapi's va
which ain't happening and they look stupid for doing it
Any guesses on the new IP crossover
ghost in the shell
People speculating Blue Archive based on the crosshair-like image
Apparently it looks like their gacha animation?
【📢 Collaboration Update】
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︀︀#NIKKE
︀︀#NIKKE2026NewYear
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︀︀A brand-new collaboration for GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE has been officially confirmed!
︀︀A new ally is on the way… but who could it be? 👀✨
the contrast nerds found a hint in the bottom right
highlight of the new year's stream
were they spamming during alice's gacha costume reveal too? since they're the same VA lol
◤━━━━━━
︀︀#GundamEternal
︀︀New Units to arrive on 12/31 (JST)!
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︀︀Featuring:
︀︀UR Gundam Calibarn (Final Battle) (EX) / UR Suletta Mercury
︀︀UR Destiny Gundam (EX) / UR Shinn Asuka
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︀︀#GGeneration #GGen
SHIIII they're all 3 limited
that new emma costume is as good as bought for me
the alice and quency costumes are blessed but probably skips
index faust and udjat outis are both looking real strong
God Echo farming sucks
the prescript mechanics look cute
not quite how ruina worked, but it is a pretty elegant way of how i'd have translated to limbus
my other option was... just making 3 unique skill 1s, 2 unique skill 2s and a skill 3 that bases what it does off the unique skills used lol
i was tabbed out of the stream during the skins part so idk
No Anis 
I will continue to wait
I guess this is ||the new year character Snow White||'s first proper alt, though
||the previous one was like a complimentary alt downgrade. A Baby Mario||
queue her up for 3.5 anni i guess
so, now that anis is confirmed not to be the ny nikke, who's winning the popularity poll?
cindy, little mermaid, liberalio, nayuta, snow, or someone else?
or ||sr anis||
cindy
RRH vs cindy poll was already quite close
and while mermaid is precious, i think the community's general dislike of unbreakable sphere will sour her chances
whereas everybody loves cindy and old tales is a goated event
i think cindy and little mermaid will be 1/2 (even with how some people didn't like half anni or the bond thing as much)
nayuta would be funny but i don't think she has enough staying power
probably, but i think cindy will earn a convincing win
liberalio ain't happening despite what that one coper on the nikke sub thinks
snow probably loses bc of the sbs problem as well as what seems to be sizeable distaste for her being the ny nikke instead of anis
yeah simply not being anis will cause her to take a hit lol
(that and og snow was never as big as scarlet to start with, as far as i can see)
snow white is very underappreciated in general tbh
the very definition of a ride or die
i'm happy she's getting some spotlight, even if i expected it to be anis
snow should be more popular imo, but she's not, and that's what we have to live with
but we'll see
maybe the new event is unexpectedly a huge enough hit to make her competitive despite the sbs problem
her alt might make her more popular since it's more fanservicey
or her kit is so busted the meta voters will shift to her
she always had that sleeper build
on the contrary a lot of what i'm seeing is dislike for the new design
idk how much of that is anis fans being salty as opposed to valid dislike, but tbh i'm not the biggest fan of it myself either
i think i buy the critique that she feels "too naked", at least
i think it's impossible to separate current negative sentiment toward snow white from people being just being salty she's not anis
personally i think she looks both badass and hot
the design reminds me of grave tbh
unrelated but i just realized they put alice in a jar
too many degens having a field day with that one
grave has a cloak, which i think puts the look together better; snow lost hers
i wish shift up could decide whether they want alice to be cute or hot
her personality should warrant cute designs (which is why i like her sweater skin)
but the "hot" designs they keep giving her give me the ick because she's mentally a child
inb4 "alice is actually a hundred years old" or whatever
sorta reminds me of the new zodiac in granblue, except she doesn't seem like a child mentally
(she was put in stasis due to shit that happened 108 years in the past but this happened when she was 13 years old; we'll be getting her as a playable soon)
anyway i think i can be convinced to like the new snow design but i'll probably have to let it grow on me
?
i don't have any real desire to see her sexed up, i'm quoting what i imagine some people might say in response to the mental age thing
send this dog to anyone who uses "she is actually a hundred years old" unironically
then why'd you send it to me? lol
...because it's my reaction to reading that line
Didn't you make the case that you thought she wasn't mentally a child because she showed more awareness or something
i may have offhandedly mentioned it but not to make a case for something like that because i don't agree with it lol
she absolutely has cases of showing emotional awareness and maturity above the level of a literal child
but that doesn't make her mentally all there
I think
if you are willing to give Shift Up some grace
that it's clear Shift Up don't see her as child-coded
because they don't do this for any other child-coded character like Soline, Crust, or Anne
there is a literal crust panty shot sticker you can use on your profile
is there actually
unfortunately yes
anyway, i don't think that shift up doesn't see alice as child-coded, i think they want to have their cake and eat it too
they want the cuteness and innocence of a child with the body of definitely-not-a-child
they want alice to have her cake, and then to eat that
by all the available evidence
🫙
unrelated
lmao
wat
oh
I didn't realize it was costumes
we're getting razer costumes in-game
that's immensely funny
wack
i'm ngl if they release a relatively minimal and not utterly degenerate nikke-branded razer mouse i might cave
mousepad is volume's ass, idk what the mouse itself would be tho
STORY SPECULATION BASED ON NIKKE NEW YEAR'S STREAM
||https://fxtwitter.com/REDHOODLOVE0223/status/2005649093578928281||
USB stick that comes with it has a copy of boom on it (its just the freeware version of doom but modded to say boom)
apparently the 🫙 has "down the rabbit hole" on it and it's positioned right above Alice's
damn a comment just reminded me that there were no favorite item reveals this stream
there were last year
people still chasing last year's items
or maybe they feel no one needs a big boost into relevance right now
the release cadence is supposed to be every 6 months, and january is 6 months from the last release
so who do we think are getting favorite items this time?
they could be very funny
and do some Inherit items
you think they'll ever do double-favorite items to build on a pre-existing favorite item
doubt
at least not this early into the game
except for isabel since arcana is basically her favorite item :^)
yes, but not right now
...Crow favorite item?
there would be riots in the streets
kill it with fire
honestly the nikke i want a favorite item for the most is marciana
closely followed by the bunny twins
that would be a good shot
i wonder if they'll ever release a pilgrim favorite item
(the answer to that is yes)
i guess the actual question is when

the 30 bond requirement for FIs would be brutal to meet for a pilgrim
what would bunny twin favorite items do
only real thing they could add to push them into relevance again is to increase their damage buffs
since blanc's healing is already more than good enough
Damn the right one is pretty good
next month, when we get a favorite item for dorothy that is just a doro
yes
I saw there was a new music video posted on yt, iirc?
there was
Tbf there really...isnt much wing stuff to do
They only have the 1 UR unit
Kinda expected EW for the Christmas theme but hey, WITP is better so
Yeah, true 
Guess we’ll get it for next Christmas…?
In the meantime maybe I will just go for other options
(That said, I did watch Endless Waltz again on Saturday)
(…why does Heero just drop himself and Wing Zero into the lake while fighting Wufei. It makes no sense)
It is weird given the context of the anime
Coz he kinda doesnt give up in the anime
The flashback is meant to show how tired heero was and gave up from remembering about the trauma
It's a case of, this movie is trying really hard to fix the lack of any backstory in the show
Yeah, like 1/3 to 1/2 the runtime was spent on flashbacks rofl
“Who’s Nataku?”
But yeah the show doesnt really set up EW
Since heero doesnt seem as tired as he is in EW
Things kinda worked out in wing in the end
Since like...no one really died in the main cast
Just Treize
Which, I could understand Wufei’s issues
Him saying “I’m still fighting Treize, even now!” Hit hard
I do like heero does not talk to zechs
The ending of wing made me worried they were gonna have a salty runback
That how it usually goes with rivals return
Either that or last minute save
Zechs never talked to Heero or Relena yeah, now that you mention it
I imagine they were aware of each other due to Zechs waiting until the colony was safe before firing on the terrorists
Yeah and also, wings plot armor is real thick
It's amazing treize is the only guy who died
Cast wise and not just schmucks
They were Avengers MCU levels of “let’s try to avoid lasting damage” in this movie. I didn’t remember that at all, but I didn’t dislike it
I do like the smaller scale of it, relatively speaking
I dont want a big war, I do like it's just an insurgency that gets dealt with, with what the series attempted to do
But like failed at
100%
Im so glad they made releena learned that sitting on your ass doing nothing for absolute pacifism is really dumb
I think every misstep EW could've made was instead in frozen teardrop
Oh boy you just couldn't help yourselves
It was a logical conclusion after every other faction basically used her absolute pacifism as a bargaining chip against the others
….I do not think about Frozen Teardrop
You will have to when they add snow white prelude and it being the best unit in the game in 5 years
Way before, freedom zero hopefully is out in 2026
Surely...
Hopefully, dont have to wait another 20 years
Gundam 00 getting its post-AOTT animation before SEED Freedom gets URs in G Gen would be funny
00 20th new movie trust 
Anyone have any insight into what this might be hinting at?
Clearly its the riddler 
New theory is Destiny Child
actually got her with the freebies lmao
hopefully my luck on the premium banner is similarly good
E3 DDD or Bronya LC on Sparkle (in an e2 Archer team)? And if the LC doesn’t go to Sparkle, should I assume Bronya gets it?
didn't that EOS
like, before nikke
nikke was basically destiny child's replacement no?
yes
which means Shift Up has full control of the IP
so they have much more freedom for the crossover
ddd on sparkle can mess up sparkle's speed reqs in some cases (as well as help them) so just make sure u calc that right. bronya lc is safer generally. but if it doesnt go to sparkle... yes it does go to bronya. that said, i wouldnt spend 600 on a lc personally
Already have, twice 
Once for Sunday and now the second one
I shall reflect in the future
oh, there's more
holy kino
...sure, but what would be the purpose of collaborating with a dead IP lol
unless they want to revive it ig
which would be novel
just tested bhaisa out in diaspora host, she makes it a lot faster than i remember
min honors and gamma 100 by turn 9
ah SHIT i forgot to spend all my nikke event currency before it ended
rip
what ever will i do without that like... 300 core dust
based
what will she cost me? let's find out
holy shit
apparently 40 pulls is what it'll cost me
technically 60 i guess if you count the initial 20 to get her first copy
but my 40 pulls just now went
empty 10 -> 10 with x.brid -> 10 with x.brid -> 10 with x.brid
not only lucky on the SSR rate, but won every 50/50
you're gonna tempt me to see i fi can get a brid dupe and i don't like that
i need to save
...hopefully that doesn't mean i burned my 50 luck for shunguang in ZZZ
tbh as someone who doesn't pull for mindscapes regularly
now that I've been buying the monthly pass
I feel like I have a surprising surplus of pulls
as someone who's bought the monthly and season pass nearly every month since release
i can tell you: wait til you hit a run of bad luck
that surplus goes ghost in a hurry
I've been hosed before ye
the big ones I remember are Neo Rei and Arcana
I still don't have Arcana
I can confirm Khaios statement
it's true of nikke too but to a lesser degree since you can bank pity
wait
damn they got me saying mindscapes instead of spare bodies now
oh and Ada
absolutely hosed me in the RE collab
i haven't felt squeezed on pulls since my first few months of play
nikke's rates and pity are generous and the fact that almost everything enters standard pool afterward makes it easy to justify saving for a future important unit(s)
atp i have so much saved up that i'm basically looking for excuses to pull
i only pull to MLB as an indulgence for characters i like and that i want the lobby screen for
couldn't even get one spare body of Ice Maiden when I tried
sadge
I could have gone harder in the paint for her I guess
but I was concerned about double New Year's banner
that happened to me last winter funnily enough lol
and we know a collab is coming up
had i known beforehand that they were going to expand lobbies to 10 slots i probably would've MLB'd her during her rerun just now
oh well
i definitely already have 10 to use anyway
i'm glad they're expanding the number but i wish they'd just remove the cap entirely
idk how they don't realize it'd probably boost sales by removing competition between lobby slots
a lot easier to justify buying a skin when you can be confident you can use it for your lobby
especially ones without burst animations (i.e., non-gacha skins)
could be some underlying technical issue that limits them
or it could open up a can of worms in niche cases they just don't want to deal with
what happens when Joe Bug Hunter opens twenty trillion lobby tabs
knowing shift up's propensity for spaghetti code, it's probably just a technical limitation
it was a little funny when everyone in the presentation this morning dropped an octave or so for a while
oh shit why does that random wuwa boss have a harder ost then anything else in the game 
Do you mean Hyvatia?
ye
If so its a track you can use while riding the bike :)
Its Q.E.D., not sure which of the albums has it tho
My brother we have The False Sovereign ost right over there
zzz maintenance begins
may all shunguang wanters be shunguang havers
or if YSG isn't your jam, whichever of the rerunning characters you may want
Time to get the rrats engine (hopefully)
my most important goals are Ye Shunguang and Astra
maybe some w-engines depending on my bank and how much I choose to spend
omegamaybe some Alice mindscapes to work towards the monophys dream
or Astra M1
did you see the spending thresholds for the spending event? they came out yesterday
it's not pullable, your only hope is the selector or getting 4 of the new shop currency
which, to be fair
means it's largely not random
but it will eat your resources
in-game or IRL wallet
my priorities go YSG > sanby > alice > sigs in the same order
with my savings, unless i get quite lucky i'll probably have to stop at sanby
at least sanby will be guaranteed as the first i pull from the choice banner
i might swap alice and YSG sig in priority since i do have a banked guarantee to use
finally doing Chapter 27
high enough power to quick battle the whole thing
with knowing how much it'll be for a free 5 star, im basically on full savings mode this patch and the next foreseeable patches
gonna be waiting a while for that alice sig since it's only running starting the second half
which is good bc i will now forfeit all my wealth to kim ji hoon for canto 9 (probs not i should be able to craft faust and outis ids)
i mean swap alice with YSG's sig. i.e. my priority would become YSG > sanby > YSG sig > alice...
ahh
part of me really wants sanby's sig too but at least i have eve's as a reasonable alternative
unfortunately I have to decide if I want to get Ye Shaggy Ultra Instinct's Signature W-Engine, Cloudcleave Radiance
because her disk build changes depending on her w-engine significantly
The shop currency is the plan 
finally got around to clearing Chapter 27
Also I might pull a bit for YSG
Just for the sake of having a physical DPS that isnt Jane
now that Victoria coupons will turn into batteries
I may choose to commit those to farming mats instead of discs
didn't you not have enough for that
I don't care what it took to make this happen
I am eternally grateful for it
I don't know how much I'll get from dismantling engines 
they did announce
dismantling overclocked w-engines will give more puzzle pieces
and they are giving puzzle pieces retroactively for people who dismantled overclocked w-engines before
how many puzzles for a 5 star engine
5
6
one per w-engine put into it
i mean you coulda found that one out lol
but i only got like 20
granted i only dismantled wengines i didn't need (dupes of ones i already had 5* for instance)
but i'd also wager i have more wengines than you since i pull more lol
HSR players sound off por favor
I've heard
once characters were put into the selector shop thingamabobby there
they never reran again
is this true
So far the list of selector shop choices is standard banner characters, Luocha, Ruan Mei and Topaz
receiving reports they have never rerun since
hmm
concerning for rerun chances
None of the three non-standards have rerun since they were added to selector yeah (and while all three still have uses, they've also been superceded by new units in their niches)
The only exception is Blade I think? Pretty sure he got a rerun around the time the selector shop was added, but that was because he got buffed
Actually is he in the selector shop rn
Ugh, I need to reopen my game
unrelatedly
allegedly
the Chapter 5 (1.4) voices are now fixed
also unrelatedly
who wants to make the r/yugioh discord gacha chat guild
Okay yeah. Selector doesn't include the Standard Banner DLC characters
Just the OG 7 and Ruan Mei/Luocha/Topaz
Blade, Seele and Fu Xuan, who are now available when losing 50/50, cannot be chosen from selector
Looks like it's beginning to rain
🫡
trade offer:
i receive: treats
you receive: weapon of mass destruction
🫡
what the fuck
going back to this out of boredom, earlier i named my top 3 (marciana + bunny twins) but they come in batches of 4 so i was thinking about who my last pick would be
and i think i'm going with rupee
that would be a nice one
she's a fan favorite so she definitely has popularity going for her
and she's weak but not in a way that can't be buffed into relevance
she has a "iron team buffer" theme that was passable in the early days of the game but has been powercrept to shit
FI could lean into that and give the iron element a solid b2 buffer
chat
weird thought
what if the Nikke collab is Grand Theft Auto
i don't know a lot about GTA but what prominent female GTA characters are there for them to release as playables
none, actually
although
there is their parody of Japanese culture
Princess Robot Bubblegum
Princess Robot Bubblegum and Shiny Kitty Wasabi
trust
i'll say in general that aside from the bunny twins, the talentum and prima donna trios seem ripe for favorite items in general
rupee's the most popular talentum member in the fandom but i'd be happy with dolla or yan as well
nikke x gta collab released before gta6
and prima donna can go with noise or volume
or aria as a real deep cut but i don't think she's got the popularity going for her
i intended to actually answer my own question but got distracted by other things and forgot lol
so i have two schools of thought on this
the first is that they actually use the favorite item to improve bottom of the barrel (gameplay-wise) nikkes
rupee could fit into that, i guess
wouldn't say marciana is bottom of the barrel, but i would say she's fallen out of favor
and i would like one of my five perma locks to be more usable
based
the second school of thought is that they use it to make the rich richer
you know how many of the new standard pity nikkes have favorite items?
1
this leaves them room to add all the other 4 at once
liter, naga, tia, alice
liter favorite item feels a little crazy
but
that'd be crazy
which would be a really stupid decision, but not totally out of the realm of possibility
with the dupes event
practically gifted to you on a silver platter
ye, that'd be the point
which I guess is good for no-spend players
of the 13 treasures we've got so far, i'd say only two of them went to nikkes that had even niche meta relevance beforehand -- tove and miranda
so to release a wave of 4 that improve some of the best nikkes in the game would be wild on their part
to be clear, i think that is not very likely at all
just that it's a non-zero possibility
of the four, i think i'd be most interested in an alice favorite item that maybe makes her not a pain in the ass to play properly
but that's even more of a pipe dream
they basically embraced that sort of playstyle when they released bunny milk
alice favorite item that yoinks all these fixed charge speeds they've been doing
okay so in all seriousness here are my actual predictions
elysion: quiry, privaty
missilis: admi
tetra: yan
privaty is a very solid candidate
and i mentioned yan above, could def see any of the talentum trio get one
quiry and admi are some deep cuts though
yan is more or less "pick 1 talentum here"
quiry completes the acpu favorite item gang
rupee and dolla are the closest to being actually usable of the three
yan is... very not good
admi i'm just coping bc she's cute
this would also set up yulha for the season after that if both she and privaty got one here
yulha didn't overwork herself to be forgotten in the triangle FI parade
a viable alternative for admi in missilis would be maxwell btw
completing the matis favorite item gang
on the other hand, they also have alts coming soon.tm
so i don't think it's super likely
yeah matis is in a weird spot now with their alts somewhere on the horizon
laplace and drake pre-empted those being revealed in the story
maxwell might be left in the dust
is this blue archive lol
that seems to be the most popular theory going right now
but i think some people compared it to other blue archive collab teasers and the glyph? circle? thing was different
other theories i've seen are ghost in the shell and lycoris recoil lol
the other popular one is Destiny Child
Shift Up's previous gacha
i still don't see what the purpose of that would be unless they're also planning to announce a revival of it
isn't a collab supposed to be a two-way street anyway
pretty sure DC isn't even maintained anymore, it only exists as an offline game now so former players could keep access to whatever they owned
hard to collab with an IP that physically cannot have content added to it
if they do decide to revive it though, cool i guess
i think i saw at least one person in here say they used to play it before EOS
wot
wow that's early
time to have my soul crushed by shunguang taking me to double pity and leaving me with nothing
I'll make the outpost if that's alright
sure
Guess I gotta actually add y'all as internet friends -- or interknot friends
post ur UIDs
1005991400
1003864843
wowee amazing
such luck
invited you @rapid bough
wtf there's an agent exchange too?
oh it's just the new "if you pull an agent after m6" exchange shop
this is neat
extremely based of them to improve the value of the season pass with the new wengine chip + resonating core but keep it the same cost
okay time to pull
i had enough to instantly craft jane's wengine lol
ok phew, 30 pulls later (literally my last 10-pull)
wasn't worst case scenario at least
guess I'm getting her later in the patch....
took me to 75 pulls too
same lol
talent 2 on soldier 11
honestly? i may just go for the rest of her mindscapes in some capacity
oh shit wait can i just get her talen 6??
the official unofficial ZZZ outpost UID is 6791
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