#Gacha Chat
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Also looking ahead for year 2 I'm seeing what worth it or interesting to me. I see a lot of hype for Machan but idk what her deal is
She's a really good horse or parent for shorter distance Front runners
And apparently her story is really really good
But I've never read it cuz I never got her
Mayb later
All I could look into the horse is that she, Vodka and Daiwa Scarlett where known as the " big three" in the filly crop of 2006-2007.
She was one of the big three but died very young
So Machan in game basically spends the entire time trying to be a mascot so that people don't forget her
Love how she randomly goes Wei
she's goated
she's goated
My favorite protein powder
BA just canceled sponsored stream from the trash taste members because the fans dont want them
From what I've seen the targeted streamer in question was specifically anti-BA in the past
So it begs the question...why did they agree to it
Obviously there's money involved but given what they preached and their own audience sharing those views, they had to have seen it going south
What probably makes the most sense is he accepted just to troll the stream and the BA social media staff were completely oblivious of his relationship with the game
Ye
Bird mom is out
apparently hsr lets you skip firefly's 2nd date this patch
which im crediting constance for
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Limbus Company vs Fate: Grand Order
Limbus Company
█████ 54.49%
Fate: Grand Order
███ 35.5%
Abstain
█ 10.01%

😔
that hopeless clash...
Personally i think they both have great stories but ultimately limbus company is more consistent
<Meursault, defeat the Fate series!>
"It will be done manager."
Like, agartha is something that i dont think limbus company would ever tolerate
yea limbus has the buff that it really is all coming from one consistent source for the storytelling. it really shows in how even the uptie stories often end up being really good short stories in and of themselves. i can see a larger project like fgo having a writing department, which has its own merits mind you, but i can easily see how that can also cause some things to slip through the cracks.
and i will not play limbus even if they threaten me
Damn, then you cant vote 😔
you think limbus fans play fgo
i really dont play fgo, but i am a fan of other fate stuff
but anyway i have refused to install new gacha games and became infinitely more content with life
i don’t even do dailies anymore i just log when i feel like it
the kingslayer
the best way to describe fgo from a old player would be a very good story with great characters told in the most mundane/bare bones way possible with a mediocre game attached to it.
Fgo is a game of highs and lows in many ways
i feel like the mundane part is wrong
It's probably going to be AK vs Limbus
any may god help you if the devs forgot about your favorite servant.
most servants come back either in events or main story, i don’t think they forget them imo
i remember enma tei event where fionn went from hated to liked by the people’s perspective
no one asked but on that note, something i really appreciate about ZZZ is its ability to consistently cameo old agents even if they don't have a role in the current story
good to know most of them aren't forgotten
keyword most because it does feel like it's been forever since we've seen anything from the cunning hares (other than anby)
and astra/eve... my heart yearns for more eve
though i guess astra played a major (even voiced) role in the summer event
They know they cant involve eve cause she would just instantly solvw any problem going on 
stand up, gallop on
they sparingly involve eve because she steals the spotlight wherever she goes
my goat
but imo i can’t believe that half of these people that vote played the other game
its just not possible
in the big spectrum of community bubbles
"My name is Limbus company! And I, Limbus company, declare upon my honor: this lance shall end that festering, slothful dream!"
Probably
Ive alreqdy seen people say "i havent played limbus but it cant be better than fgo so i voted for fgo" and "ive only plqyed a bit of fgo so i cant vote for it even though ive been told its good"
And thats just people admitting it
I mena people just press a button and be done with it, since we there’s no way we can even confirm
such is life i guess
I mean ultimately it doesnt really matter, its just a random twitter poll
to be honest i don’t even use twitter i just repost cosplays
But its neat to see the sentiment of people
doubtlessly there are going to be people who will vote for limbus without having ever played it, just cause they hate fgo
in a ramdom change of topic shame there’s not many popular male cosplayers in social media
i think some outfits look fire but i don’t see people cosplay it
My guess is that there's less overlap in guys who like male designs enough who are also willing to cosplay them compared to girls in the same boat
Youre probably correct to some extent but i think its also an issue of whats profitable
Of the male cosplayers i know of, the only ones that are popular are guys cosplaying in female characters outfits
Well i meant in what people like
There are no doubt male cosplayers, but for you to see them, people have to like and retweet them
Yeah that's true
Female would definitely go wider
Girls and guys both like girls alot
Girls like guys but guys don't tend to like guys quite as much
But yeah id like to see more cosplays of male characters
You can even be a woman and cosplay them, just more would be nice
Speaking of tho
https://vxtwitter.com/dogman_cos/status/1999353396575580177
https://vxtwitter.com/chanlan_lcb/status/1991079630485213606
hot (literally)
hate to be nitpicky (not really) but isnt her dress cut on the wrong side?
Mirror world 

I had the same exact reaction
https://x.com/irkaoy/status/2001671956601733253
4 hours remain
Astra and eve it make sense from due to her career
i think it's pretty likely we see astra/eve over the course of the angels of delusion release events
since astra got acquainted with one of them (i forget her name) during the summer event
and ofc there's obvious overlap on the idol stuff lol
8-30 cleared on the second try 
||did not catch that the titular 6 unbreakable coins had attack weight the first time
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………yeah, probably. Although again, the whole FGO team did crazy work to course correct after Agartha, including the 8-part Interlude for Schez
||it may be the coolest fight in the game ngl||
||loved the part where dante lays their massive balls on the table and nerfs lei heng||
||all the resonance fights have been goated it's crazy||
Gj
I know the fight was quite hard for some people even though i found it easier than the last fight of canto 7
||i think it probably would have been easier if i multislotted somebody with an evade and good clashing egos but unfortunately i lack units who have both||
ended up with some casualties but managed to make it out
||its a fight you can get easily overwhelmed in if lei heng starts straight up smoking your ass hard.||
The ost for the fight also goes hard af even if i joke that it shouldve been "the only thing i know for real"
canto 8 is 2 for 2 on fights that make you go "wait theres still more canto?"
Next fight is ||the blowjob brothers||, right?
yea
onwards to 32 ||THAT'S MY GOAT RIGHT THERE HE'S STARTING TO WANT THINGS LET'S GOOOOO||
man this is such a good canto
||time to show the fraud who the better contempt awe ego gear user is...||
This causes me so much pain because it’s so freaking true. 10 years with the FGO writers has given enough time for people to figure out who writes which story and interlude chapters for the most part. Some of the big bangers like Shimousa, LB5, the murder mystery event have had writers other than Nasu. And obviously the huge amount of input that individual artists have too, which leads to unexpected sleeper hit fan faves like Barghest, Oberon, the Indian pantheon…. Heck, every GudaGuda event ever is practically a crystallization of that. Unexpected fan favorite NPCs that manifest out of the ether, invoking so much goodwill from the fan base that the FGO team goes out of their way to make them playable a year or two later
But also. YEAH. It’s led to stuff like Agartha (which has never repeated, thank gods). Or Parvati’s artist, a budding FGO team member, getting harassed so badly that he basically cut himself off from the internet and only said ‘thank you to everyone who uses her’ in the materials books- where, traditionally, artists and writers yap for YEARS about their designs and philosophy.
Like. FGO experience is wading through a field of 6s to 9s for some shining clusters of 10s- arguably 11s, in my biased opinion.
Limbus has gone from 7 to 8 to 9 to 10 to 10 to 10 to 10 to 10.
Arguably the lowest quality stories in limbus are the short railway/walpurgis things and thats not bevause they are bad, they are just short
They’re still 100% consistent with the overarching lore
Which gives them an extra point
I cant think of a single bad intervallo
Same ;_;
i can think of a least favorite, and its not that bad bc it gives us juicy lore and thats miracle in district 20
the gnomes...
Its probably my least fav yea
I mean it seemed fine to me? It seemed like an enjoyable, relatively lower stakes Intervallo. An out of verse unwinding
i did love the don and heath content
Yeah its not bad, it just has alot of competition
nocturnal night sweeping
And you could never make me hate hells chicken
shit, spring cultivation is also really fucking goated
as is check up
timekilling time was so goated too
Ig its spring cultivation spoilers
||https://vxtwitter.com/Acppla/status/2001659800564961554||
Wait who tf is that last one
Youll see
you'll see
Vro tried to slip in there
tried and true limbus special of making us care about a character in a short time frame and developing a real af story
Also sikce we talked about uptie stories, man this new one really does hit
||https://vxtwitter.com/FreyCheqama/status/2001538227593715875||
yeah...
||i love how much it develops rodya in that her mind races through many different things to say but knows the one thing she needs to get out: merry christmas. it fucking hits..||
Quite funny that you called the last one a sneak but said nothing about "exploring bisxeuality" or "what heishou feels the best inside"
no that's pretty normal for the sinners
while i was looking up badly rated fgo chapters, apparently people didn't like tunguska??
i'm biased because i like koyanskaya screentime but what did people not like about it
I don't remember in full, but I think it was the slant from dedicated villainy/actually Tamamo to sympathetic villain/not actually a Tamamo
And initial JP/ENG translations played up some of the... Traits of certain mobs inside Tunguska
Also, now that I think about it. That event was RUTHLESS in difficulty
I specifically crashed out in this chat about it two years ago
also this lol
also apparently i am a fucking prophet
going back to find my takes on the tunguska event and the ivan fuckup specifically and remembering some random acts of prophecy i had back in the day
considering the hype they gave with her battle in lb5.2 people were expecting better
and her reason for her hatred agianst humans wasn’t very fleshed out
HOLY
FIRST BA W I'VE SEEN AND IT'S A MASSIVE ONE
Waits it's been 2 years already
time flies by
It's time
harikitte ikou
I'll be working tonight. Best of luck to all of you.
Aight, birb mom obtained
Easy MLB

Heedeth me, Mao
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I made it in advance because i have
❤️🔥❤️🔥 Free Time ❤️🔥❤️🔥
May your good pulls be many and your whiffs few folks! Have a merry chrysler
yessss the gfl2 cat cafe game mode is back
this minigame is so goddamn kino i love it so much
easily my favorite minigame in gfl2 and honestly may be my favorite across any gacha i've played
they were crazy for this
jesus christ lol
was almost expecting them to drop the cursed numbers
The Doctor steals candy ? 😭
Buddy you're 13000+yo what is that behavior 🙏🙏
Love it when they do the modern clothes ascensions
yeah that's a pretty good foundation now
and now i still have the ssr ticket + uncap crystal
Now with MLB Kita now I only have to borrow MLB Super Creek 
although I got the gambling itch and I kinda want one more El or possibly more creeks
//THERE'S JUST NO WAY, MAN
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//friend is trying to convince me that nicolina isn't bad as hell. tbh i feel betrayed
everyone watch man of la mancha NOW
new damage record yippee!! 972, again with mr nights awl
hit 830 with hana ish in the same fight, md sinking really doesn't fuck around
Limbus Company
Season7 - 蜘ノ糸ノ赤 [Kumo no ito • oti on akA]
2025.12.31 (KST)
Commenter is spitting
(I think someone posted a leak in the comments of this tweet so prolly dont click it)
Same pose as Roland too
@rapid bough @idle grove Cheyanne costume
Another star rail figuarts has hit the announcement
As a genshin player GOD IT MAKES ME FEEL SAD SEEING THE OTHER HOYO GAMES GET COOL FIGUARTS BUT WE'RE STUCK WITH PAIMON
https://vxtwitter.com/SuckyEngy1zumi/status/2001830482745688092
https://vxtwitter.com/rrkkw1_/status/2001686012809089107
Acheron gets cheated on!
Audio from @SimplyAllegra's Ranch Simulator stream.
holy peak
it is december, the swimsuit skins will continue until morale improves
confirmation that jane doe is australian????
i think the key point for me is that this is the second time this year we get a free S rank agent + wengine, and this time it even includes limited selections
and we get zhao for free too
Hmmm
I could get Qingyi for Harumasa 🤔
Or Jane doe m1
Also God all the more reason to get Banyue
fairly sure i'm picking up jane m1 but i'll be agonizing over that wengine choice
i've wanted koleda wengine since forever, but i feel like i have to go with one of the limited options given the chance
burnice or qingyi sig.... hmmmmmmmmmmm
the only ones i dont have are qingyi and koleda
safe to say its either qingyi or a dupe for another char
I'm getting Jane Does sig
It's a bit upgrade and makes not having a physical attack dps less painful
they didn't mention the selector is a reward based on spending money
not very free
there's a paid event where you get rewards for spending on monos, IK, and battle pass
that's where the selector is
The other stuff is free tho
Oh nvm
oh

me reporting this twitter user for misinfo (that is twitter's mission statement)

Just finished catching up on the stream
Free Zhao and enough mats to hit Level 40 is very nice
... well if I get Banyue I guess I get Astra
is this "new banner" permanent or is it just running for 2.5/new year festivities
Also hot take: the Jane Doe skin is kinda meh
it's free so it can be ass for all i care
just for 2.5 (and only second half I think?)
normal limited pity doesn't carry over to it
and its pity won't carry over to other normal limited banners
but its pity will carry over to the next banner of its type
Like even as a unabashedly fanservice outfit I don't think it works all that well
jesus christ it has alice and sanby, the only two characters i'm waiting for reruns on
i am so cooked
It's like half swimsuit half stuff that looks out of place on a swimsuit
Surely you could've gone for more of a hot pants and croptop look with those sleeves?
they save those decisions for the paid skins
I mean the paid skins have also been swimsuits no?
and yixuan's skin
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please use my prereg link so I get more stuff smile
I forgot she had one lmao
i have already preregged rip
But yeah idk I feel like Jane Does base skin is both better designed and hotter
yixuan getting nerfed for the promo art 
also, not that it was in doubt since the 2.4 cinematic, but i do find it a bit funny they're just establishing beforehand that shunguang will officially become a void hunter in 2.5 lol
smh does china know we drink coke here too
More rolls for Banyue 🥳
jesus if that were a lycaon skin it would feed families
also i just processed that jane's skin is free but shunguang's casual dress skin is paid
Why does he have such a snatched waist
interesting choice
dude's abs are about to break containment that vest is holding on for dear life
Also Ju Fufus outfit is closer to what I think Jane Does outfit should've been
Make it a little less silly, a little more risqué and you'd have people going feral for it
i assure you people are going feral for it already
the ZZZ subreddits are even more worked up than usual
OK but they'd go more feral for it
lemme know when y'all have watched the story preview
the outfit kinda looks like shalems im ngl
https://x.com/Crovius_/status/2001751375382990861
apparently the HSR paid event was $200
so maybe the ZZZ event will have the same threshold
🚮
oh apparently $200 assumed double monos
it was closer to $300 for final tier
at least the selectors aren't on the final tier

looks like Ye Shunguang's mats will be of the new boss
understandable
unfortunately it also means I farmed these expert mats for nothing
but at least Dialyn shares the notorious mats
as meta pointed out, it's not as good as it looks
the free selectors are gated behind spending a shitton of money 
still, the rest of the free stuff is welcome
apparently you can now craft S-rank w-engines
looks like the selection lines up with the paid selector
tryna find where I saw it
because it wasn't totally clear in the preview stream
holy shit new mats to tune drive disk substats at the music shop
obtained by trading 2 tuning calibrators for 1 of the new mat (they are also upping the acquisition rate of tuning calibrators)
as the screenshot shows though it seems you can only tune 2 of the substat rolls at a time
Similar to HSR
i'm watching the stream now, it's at around 46:50
they're updating the battle pass to give a new "w-engine microcontroller unit" material
after you get enough of them you can exchange for an s rank wengine
I can finally get that Weeping Cradle
each wengine costs 4 of the item, so 4 battle passes worth
but you can see they're also purchasable for 60 of the A rank crafting material
very blessed
Directly farmable
Very nice
Wait
No
Not farmable
But you'll get them naturally over time
yeah the income is slow from i think just notorious hunt and shiyu
(you can also recycle excess A rank engines for them)
60 is quite a lot
I don't even have 60 puzzle pieces yet
i believe you acquire them at a rate of 9 per 2 weeks
3 per notorious hunt reset (3/week), and 3 per shiyu reset (3/2 weeks)
i have 162 of them 
shiyu just reset too so 165 ig
Nvm I can still get Jane Does engine 
interesting note: the currency for the new agent enhancement system (potential vision) for ellen, sanby, grace, burnice, and s11 can also be used to purchase old event-limited wengine and bangboo for those who missed them
so that's neat
new sweep function for combat sim (agent/wengine leveling mat repeatables)
not free unfortunately, costs ether batteries (which are now craftable)
area patrol sweep is being merged and the coupons will convert freely to ether batteries
FINALLY auto-dismantle functionality in area patrol
and that's basically it for the stream
looking like a very good update
holy shit
SHE'S OUR VERY OWN UMA MUSUME
explains her legs in this art gotdam
i did because we know the ring has mirror tech
heads up that the wengine mat from the battle pass is part of the paid track
f2p seems to only be able to get them from exchanging 60 wengine chips (the A rank crafting material)
I should have 240 tho
they're earned at a fairly low fixed rate
Fingers crossed
i "only" have 165
i've done some crafting here and there tho
also i forgot you can buy 6 from the outpost shop per month too
so from what i know:
- 3 per notorious hunt reset (3/week)
- 3 per shiyu reset (3/two weeks)
- 6 per outpost reset (6/month or four weeks)
all told, average to something like 24 per month
wait shit
Don't tell me it's limited
is it over...
this could just mean "1 for 60" though
not "only 1 in stock"
praying for the former, gonna check currently active shops for a point of comparison
current shop example
limited stuff has the "left this month" notice, though idk if this new wengine shop resets per month
unlimited says "unlimited" under it
idk what that chinese text underneath the x1 is, but it doesn't look like a "left this month 1" which i'd expect to see a number for
can't get any image translation to work either since it's too low res
but i gotta believe it means "unlimited" and we're safe
from later in the stream, this is what "limited x1" looks like in chinese
so i'm pretty sure the s rank wengine "crafting" mat isn't limited
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Singing virtually with @AlainaWis is a joy in of itself! 😊 Enjoy "Merry Christmas, Happy New Year" with the singing vocals of Zhu Yuan and Nicole Demara's English VA's. 🎄❄️
We act AND we sing. 😉
#zhuyuan #nicoledemara #zzz #zenlesszonezero
https://youtu.be/unmbHFYJBak
Alaina Wis (English VA for Zhu Yuan in Zenless Zone Zero) and Nadia Marshall (English VA for Nicole Demara in Zenless Zone Zero) sing "Merry Christmas, Happy New Year"
Originally sung by Ingrid Michaelson and Zooey Deschanel. (This is a cover of the duet. We do not claim to hold rights to the original song.)
20 extra wengine chips after dismantling A rank dupes i don't need
(or at least i hope i don't need them)
surely i don't need two 5* vaults or replica starlight or roaring rides...
i think the only A rank dupe i kept (besides ones i already had at 5* like my two weeping gemini) was kaboom
i have 3 brimstones and i'm still debating whether to keep them separate or combine into one 3*
with everything i need to pull next patch, i might send it with 3* brimstone for shunguang instead of going for her wengine
i do still have a guarantee to cash in after losing the 75/25 on dialyn's sig though...
alright onto the final boss of canto 8 ||steve harvey kill dot gif||
Rigged
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GACHA GAME STORY TOURNAMENT: WHICH GACHA GAME HAS THE BEST STORY??? Finals + 3rd place position!!
- Rules: vote for which gacha has the better story
- To try to avoid bias, if you havent played both or one of the games, press the abstain option
- No bots
(pls ❤️ + 🔂 to boost)
Also, i went back to the last poll ane found an absolutely fascinating specimen
I was really tempted to argue with them just to try and find out how their brain works
Like, what kind of person is like "this is the best story ever" and when pressed for reasons goes "well it has the best wives, it has the most wives, many people are saying this"
most god tier wives out of any story
Bro hasnt read the 100 girlfriends who really really really love you yet
Ahhh, an agartha liker, now it all makes sense
I would ask how you could possibly think limbus has a bad story when agartha is good enough from your point of view but this person hasnt even trued limbus and already cast thier judgement so
Btw, when nikke was losing to fgo:

unsure if mentally ill or high effort trolling
I so desperately want to engage with them but i know that embarassing them in the couet of public opinion wont bring me any joy so instead i think ill do somethi g productive with my time
the evergreen question: bait or just stupid?
looks like both
i'll openly admit i think i'd prefer fgo's story over what i've seen of limbus', but agartha is 100% not the argument i'd make for it, and that's just for starters
Simply not something born out of a healthy mind
(also fgo being good doesn't make limbus bad and people can like it just fine)
which is the game they're talking about here as a "nothing burger someone very deep into gachas never even heard about"
Limbus
it's definitely not a titan of the industry but it's hardly unknown lol
feel like anyone even moderately into gachas would've heard of it
especially a story elitist like this guy claims to be
but honestly
How are you deep into gachas and have never heard about limbus, limbus company fans are some of the most obnoxious motherfuckers ever and constantly mention their game at every opportunity
the biggest red flag is that they'd think any gacha story, from FGO to limbus to whatever, ranks among the best in gaming
gacha games are such a fundamentally flawed medium for telling a coherent overarching story
depending on how they stick the landing, i can see limbus being in consideration for games in general. project moon's writing is great as a whole as shown with library of ruina
i wouldn't necessarily say a gacha's story can't be up there in terms of overall gaming stories
but they do have a much higher hurdle to clear
if limbus is dragged out, it will def lose its luster
but if they know when to shelve it, im sure it'll come out quite good as a game not a gacha
I wouldnt say fundamentally flawed but certainly it brings alot of downsides with it in the way its usually implemented
as an RPG enjoyer before i was a gacha enjoyer, i struggle to imagine any world where a gacha game tops dedicated RPGs
obviously there's a continuum for both, a good gacha game can beat out bad RPGs for instance
Most of the time its not the story aspecr of gachas that bring it down though, but rather the gameplay
and hell a great gacha game story can prboably get up there even when paired against well regarded RPGs
Gacha is just live service games, it doesn't inherently restrict the stories told in them all to be told in a same way
i won't pretend to have experienced the height of the medium in ZZZ and nikke lol
there are certain flaws of being live service absolutely
nor in proper story-focused single player games for that matter
Like if we took into consideration gameplay too and not just story, i dont think i could put fgo in my top 3 even
au contraire, any cultured nikke fan will tell you that its opening is peak cinema : ^)
to be clear i'm not considering gameplay for my assessment at all
I do agree that live service elements can bring down the quality of storytelling immensly
I will wear my bias on my sleeve and bring up Uma, because the majority of its stories (Mainly the individual career stories for each character) are self-contained and have beginning and ends instead of being prisoner of live service story updates
i think the nature of being live service and the need to constantly push out new content, promote new characters, etc. railroads you in certain ways that aren't conducive to establishing a concise narrative with a beginning, middle, and ending like the best stories are supposed to have
like you say "maybe if limbus sticks the landing and isn't drawn out it could rank up there with the best"
Rushed products are usually bad and if you have a schedule to keep you simply cannot get enough time to properly create sometimes
but how long has limbus been going now
2 and a half years i wanna say
Honestly I think its mostly the "having to promote new characters" part that really messes with storytelling
Constant updates arent neccessarily a problem
limbus doesnt really deal with that issue
Since thats kinda how manga operates and manga can have good storytelling
Luckily limbus doesnt have that problem
thanks to sticking to a core cast
yeah this is already significantly longer than most standalone story-focused experiences lol
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In case anyone wants to help me get Banyue maybe
already preregged sadly
I think I did something
Thanks OwO
I don't even play ZZZ lol
based
that is not my goat
in all seriousness, i think that for as much as nikke fans overrate the story as a whole (it's good and engaging and i've gotten a lot of enjoyment and emotional moments out of it but it's certainly not without any number of issues)
they are most guilty of overrating the opening sequence
i need the middle father to be silly
it's pretty bog standard, all things considered
As in the first chapter?
it might hit harder if the bond with marian was given time to grow
but as-is i think it's mostly just a tonesetter
There is no way they are hyping up the most generic chapter 0 of a gacha ever
the first one or two chapters up until you make it to the ark for the first time
well like
i think the glazing comes from the fact that a lot of people, myself included, get hooked onto the game because of the fanservice (we know what we like)
ye, i ignore the opening glazers tbh
and then they play the opening chapters and it's like "oh we were just forced to stone cold kill a very sweet character"
it's a good opening and certainly helped me get invested in teh game
but like
it's not the best thing ever
like you said, the time with marian before you-know-what isn't very long
it's a solid "in medias res" opening but it definitely isn't out here making me cry like some people claim it did to them lol
not enough time to get emotional about it
it sets the tone and establishes the initial stakes well, it's a competent enough opening
but it's not even close to the best the game has to offer
Personally Ive always liked judging stories based on how naturally they sweep my emotions away
current event is a prety good example, for me anyway
Like I actively try not to analyze it and just go along for the ride because I know if a story is able to make me emotional, then it is doing something very right
others might disagree but i think it did well
It doesn't need to be good "on paper"
i agree, i almost never overanalyze as i experience and just let it take me for the ride
and this might be a hot take or sad to admit
but i find it easier to engage/immerse myself in stories when there is a little bit (or a lot a bit) of allowance to self-insert
Action shonen is one of my favorite genres for this reason
The bombastic emotions
They are very good at taking you along with them
Im of the same way but maybe from a different angle
across nikke, ZZZ, etc i see various discussions about whether the obvious self-insert narrative is good or bad
One of the key things that a story can do to sell me or completely fail me
obviously it has its problems, and some crazies take it waaaaaaaaaaaaay too far
Is convince me that the characters care about what is happening
That sometimes coincides with self insert cuz character care = I care
but some of my favorite moments in experiencing the nikke story were ones where i had basically subconsciously immersed myself in the POV character and was basically reacting like i think they would've (or were actively doing so)
I think the best parts of the Blue Archive story is good for this same reason
I prefer main characters to be their well defined own personalities
But i also dont mind a blank slate you can project onto
However
to be clear i like this too if done well lol
nikke's best events are usually ones that don't even involve the commander for instance
old tales hits extremely hard with no MC presence at all
Where i am meant to self insert and suddenly the character has opinions of their own and makes choices complwtely contrary to my own
nikke is unfortunately increasingly guilty of this
commander has some of the most inconsistent writing there is lol
Stick to one of the two please
fortunately he is mostly an observer so it doesn't affect too much
I like Blue Archive's sensei MC self-insert mainly because I don't think he directly solves anyone's problems from scratch on their own but rather lets the other characters come to terms with the fact that they were able to do it themselves all along
i can rarely get into self-inserting because if the self-insert displays any sort of opinion, i am almost always immediately shoved out of the role because i will always say "i would literally never do this."
this is what spawns fix-it fanfic
I know its mostly done to appease the gooners who delude themself that all the female characters they pull are their wives (like the twitter user that dtarted this conversation) but i dont think its necessary or good
i'm not sure what you mean, evelyn chevalier is literally my wife
Yoooo
and with forced romantically charged scenes, i get that the most overall. i would never go on a date with someone like firefly for instance, but hsr was insistent that we go on multiple. i wouldnt be acting as close with vivian as the proxies do.
Youre Astra? Can you sign my record?
So goddamn motherfucking true
i can somewhat accept vivian tho and zzz as a whole because it does go out of its way to give the proxies a personality
i honestly never got the impression they act super duper close with her, at least no more than any others
tbh they maintain the same sort of close, primarily strictly friendly relationship with basically everyone
it's the agents that are aggressive toward them lol
my problem with vivian is moreso how i'd react in the shoes of the proxies once she knows who we are. i'd cut that shit out immediately
trigger my stalker wife
idk some of it's definitely annoying but mostly i think it's harmless enough that i could see myself reacting the way they do
yeahhh trigger def crosses lines i would also ask to cut that shit out that said, being an illegal proxy i can accept it from a "well, i need the government to know im not gonna act out."
except for i think her third trust event
when she very openly gets jealous just because she sees the proxy talking to some other agents lol
yeah that one was pretty bad
tho even just the fangirl shit, i would have cut that shit off immediately.
highkey the only character i think the proxies have canonically expressed much interest in is venus
which honestly? entirely fair, she is precious
oh and astra ig
and ik why they keep the proxies (and agent age as a whole) off the record, because there are ways to view them as a lot older than someone like vivian
since everyone is an astra enjoyer
so better not to touch ages and shit
oh yeah the age setup in ZZZ is entirely built on plausible deniability lmao
MCs could feasibly be anywhere from 18 to 30, as could most of the agents
18 year old lycanon would be so funny
cus vivi doesnt read older than 18. and i cant stop seeing the proxies as being among the older of the cast due to a ton of evidence we've had such as their business license renewal back in the 1.3 event iirc, and then how they have vivid memories of the fall of the old capital. they'd be older than astra and eve
there are definitely some who are verifiably on the older end of the spectrum (upper 20s low 30s) like trigger and yanagi
and definitely a few who are clearly on the younger end like vivi, ellen, corin, lucy
but the middle ground of the 20s is very murky
Yanagi is actually 14 years old, she just looks a bit older due to stress
ik this is a reference to something but idk what
she seems to have timey wimey powers too so i believe it
i've seen that excuse before
I was thinking of this meme honestly
anyway while ZZZ's proxy MCs do have their own motivations and arc, the game usually makes it easy enough to forget that they're effectively self-inserts lol. especially wise
ofc part of that is the fault of the story which hasn't progressed the carole arna stuff in centuries
they def have enough going on between them
i do like the lore blurbs of the siblings passing the agents around like blunts and talking to each other about it such as when belle says she has to tell wise about yidhari's tentacles when they next hang out
Wdym we saw like 7 illusions of her in the waifei pennisula, surely she shows up in the new story chapter


the livestream did say we'll get some more carole breadcrumbs in 2.5
only to not hear anything more probably until 3.0
def one of hoyo's weakest parts of how they handle story is how long they take to develop some things
still waiting for the setup with vivian's prophecy to pay off
i know god damn well that isn't resolved and they haven't forgotten about it
yeah they keep bringing up the phaethon (irl legend) symbolism more but i do need them to get into it more
it's one of the best things they've set up so far and fits in so well with the surrounding mythological roots based on how the proxies are acting more bold and going into hollows now and shit
whatever timey wimey bullshit they seem to be setting up with the hollows will probably play into it
there's so much subtle setup happening that i know hoyo isn't just beating around the bush like it seems they are with these 2.x chapters
but the way 2.x has played out is like a microcosm of how the gacha system can limit storytelling
oh btw i wanted to mention earlier but got sidetracked, but the gfl2 commander is his own character so not quite self-insert but also does this very well (which is a big reason why all the dolls love him)
whether self-insert or not, it definitely seems like gacha games are gravitating more toward "everyone loves the MC" (either hinted romantically or strong friends)
and it's a whole lot more believable when the MC is actually taking an active role in solving their problems lol
even if it's just providing the support necessary for them to solve it themselves
at a rate of 24/month since release if you were doing everything, 240 by now is definitely achievable
but that also assumes no crafting along the way
Yes I do like it
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i like it too but it does limit storytelling too, to bring it back to the earlier discussion
Aw dangit
As in I like it moreso than the MC being Jesus who solves the problems for them completely
Instead of just guiding them
ah true, though i do think that sorta comes with the territory of most of these games since the MC is rarely the one taking the reins on any given issue, they often play that supporting role
since the gameplay is always focused on the characters rather than the MC
(I wouldn't have minded being pinged for that, I was lucky I decided to pop back in the chat at this very moment lol)
in ZZZ the agents are the combatants, in nikke the commander is useless against raptures and the nikkes do all the work, etc
seems pretty rare for MCs these days to be the literal jesus type that solves every problem
at least, in gachas
another eden's mc is definitely heavily involved in a lot of the various character stories
and while some of those end up being pretty good in their own right
i find that some of my favorites are the few that dont' actually include him
the melissa one in particular is still quite memorable for me
with my experience in nikke, there have been great chapters with heavy commander involvement and great chapters without him, though i'd estimate there are more great chapters without him than with him lol
none of the anni events feature him and several of those are absolute bangers
tbh the only chapters that i think really benefitted from commander involvement were 22-24 (rapture attack, crow, etc)
she was fed a steady diet of cigarettes and enkephalin
https://vxtwitter.com/02kf_/status/2001972513262408185
actually not true, the recent chapters with the four beasts and only one benefitted from the commander being there
they say it takes a village to raise a child, but having her daddy there doesn't hurt
daddy, mommy, and four crazy aunts
you've got trust issues, gullible, conversationalist, and the personification of the dunning-kruger effect
what could go wrong?
couldn't go worse than marian becoming a drunken perverted bad cook under pioneer
...right?
"bad cook" probably undersells it heavily too, poor crown/chime/kilo
thinking of self insert main characters, im so glad that dante is clearly their own person (even if they do the amnesia sthick) amkes all those people who insist that they are not only a self insert but also male even more laughable.
like specifically there are people who claim that dante is not only not nonbinary, they always claim them as male ("becuase dante is a guys name"
)
wait till they find out about ishmael's name
are we gonna make a server guild for zzz
I wonder if there will be an optimal way to share farming commissions
since people who do them are rewarded
is it optimal to post all your farming and do each other's farming as commissions
Oh I still have a bunch of agent stories left to do
Ok I should get Banyue, now its just a question of how long it takes and how annoying the stories are to do
thanks friendship
social credit said "vesti? here's the original"
I'm still leaning towards their pronouns being they/them out of respect for da mystery but I am glad that we've filtered the Hoyoverse harem guys
Nature be healing
had to run 8-33 back bc my laptop bluescreened but it is done
i think everyone who says that gacha game protags are not self inserts are factually incorrect, if you select dialogue are a part of the story and you can name yourself whatever you want it is in theory placing yourself in the protagonist shoes regardless if they shown different personality
arknights doctor is a good example, they are a vital part of the world of tera and has been shown to do stuff when not in the players control but they can still interact with the characters as a means of immersion.
Its simply what a rpg means, you are role playing where’s the shame in that
self insert =/= viewpoint character
good thing dante does neither of those, #limbussweep
canto 7 spoilers
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can he also give me a thousand gold moons?
oh sweet shiyu reset is short this time around, it resets when 2.5 drops so it can use the new system ASAP
unfortunately they're glazing FGO so I need to dock it points
the slander posts are crazy
when even ppl hype up ba over wuwa 
I do hear a lot of people say BA has a good story
if I did this post I'd be glazing Limbus and Arknights and then slandering FGO
Anyway WuWas story is alright
It's not great but it's also the only one I'm still actually playing when the patch comes out lmao
Worldbuilding is really fun tho
can't slander fgo when everything people say about it is true
trying to set up my team comps for shiyu 7 i'm just now remembering a feature that i'm tilted hoyo hasn't implemented yet
fucking saved disk drive sets for easy swapping
i have two sets to use on yanagi (one for mono-shock and one for disorder) and switching between them is such a PITA
hoyo please give us loadouts
man i haven't had a good team for the electric+phys weak jester ever since its release
in 2.5 if i can get alice and/or sanby to come home... i may finally be able to kill it in sub-2min
...or shunguang, it occurs to me she would work too lol
oc4 1000 sq quest ends today fuck my chungus life
this is my curse for not playing the game
wait, is that on na?
jp
i just haven't played fgo in so long
so this is entirely my fault but it's still annoying
if I saw this like a day ago it'd be fine
because its a good story?
actually did you finish lostbelt 6?
i remember something about someone here not finishing it
like at the start of oc1 lmao
I'm cooked, basically
yeah I dropped fgo hard
but I also haven't found a gacha game to replace it really
gfl2 is the closest thing I have
I mean... obligatory reminder that you don't need to find a gacha replacement
Plenty of discussions have been had about the inherent limitations of the free-to-play live service model
true lmao
but seeing everything about oc4 and the end of part 2 has made me want to come back to fgo
I don't blame you, I'm the same (and I'm on NA)
this is one of the things that did it for me ngl
I truly forgot how peak fgo was
Yeah
saw a certain Yugioh-focused streamer playing FGO Part 1 finale last week and was like "dang. That was genuinely a life-changing memory"
too much of my life is type moon pilled for me to drop it
started fgo on release and played it until oc1 basically
which is probably why I dropped it for a while because when you play something that long a break is definitely required
Burnout is inevitable, unless you pace yourself / are allowed to pace yourself
(another nasty trick of the long running live service model, but one that FGO had mostly been better with than contemporaries)
Hearing that the spending thresholds for the ZZZ paid event are $40 for the w-engine and $60 for the character
Could always just start working through the story now
yeah that's what I'm doing

...I liked Ch'en summer...
man I know it's not the point
and the post is kinda funny
honestly chen summer is p neat even if i dont like her e2
but since last year my blood is boiling more and more consistently with this stuff
jeffrey epstein herself wtf
did i miss something
pozy likes durins
fandom made it creepier, imo
pretty sure it was that she grew up with durins and saw herself as one or something
Hoyoverse managing to sell the exact same game 3 times is just next level galaxy brain
I did finish LB6 btw
it's good but incredibly overrated
oh right I forgot to tell regi
@summer hornet I beat LB6, I thought it was good but incredibly overrated
very good by FGO standards though
wow thats a shocking answer
band for band I think Limbus has moved me more personally
and inspired a deeper love for literature
it's gotten me to read more poetry
no offense but i think you have a bias
im starting to believe that limbus is just fate but inclined for gay people
I'm also only half-gay
there’s like three people i can think are bisexual in the entirety of fate
in just stay night, saber is posed as a woman who played the role of a man and prevented herself from maturing for the sake of a kingdom. and rin has sex with her. theres levels of queer in this alone that blow out more than 3 bisexuals
to be fair, fate also has annoying straight harem fans
theres everything between waver and iskandar... a ton of subtext with gil and kotomine
rin literally doesn’t have sex, saber has sex with shirou and she thinks its hot
gilgamesh and enkidou is something i've seen and their scene in strange fake is a pretty clear cut homo case
mordred... as a whole
caenis
astolfo, for however bad ppl are about him, is a pretty fantastic showcase of gender nonconforming expression genuinely. i wish it was elaborated on more but thats p good.
i don’t think astolfo himself think of it
pretty sure takeru from samurai remnant is androgynous/nb as well
intentionally only referred to with they/them pronouns
the fate series is heavily queer and there are too many to count to say "its not a significant theme"
no takeru is mentioned as woman and man but doesn’t bother to correct it
im sure fgo is a lot more explicit with their characters too
im def having a hard time believing that if u could only clock 3 characters in fate as bi. which is fine. i dont expect non-queer ppl from noticing. but excuse me for not believing you.
clock...
danteh...
you can literally ask anyone else, but i saying without any ill intent whatsoever that it doesnt
caenis is the only one i can imagine but even them they are called a woman
Alot of characters express their appreachiation for the beauty of both men and women
Nasu and TM have created canonically gay characters in the past (Mahoyo) so it's definitely not something alien to them
You dlnt exactly see someone have gay and straight sex on sxreen or straight up look at the camera and say "i am bisexual" but there are a plethora of character who at the very least dont care abiut the gender of their partner
Like remember all the shit nero says
And thats as early as septem
also what about Morgan
Im certain mebd also counts
gilgamesh is gay as fuck
And, even though only through technicality, all the characters attracted to fujimaru ritsuka
this man is not content being a fruit hes a whole ass basket
gilgamesh is a misogynist bi disaster that man is a freak
does mebd count? im not sure
since she has the cu obsession and everything
Shes not just obsessed with just cu though
Shell fuck anyone, and thats not even counting her np
This is obviously true but i think you also have to remember that you have a massive bias as well here, having not actually experienced the limbus story yourself.
gilgamesh actually cannot handle allat I need him dead now
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i don’t want to touch limbus because its a gacha more than anything
There is an inherent logic break there, for the record
no its because don’t want to play more gachas
Gotcha, that's completely understandable
Totally fair
i genuinely want to play runia
Its a pretty good game
I think misty can also attest that you dont need to play lob corp before starting it
It was hoenstly kinda interesting to see youe perspective on it as you played through the game
there was def some elements enhanced due to knowing the city from limbus
these days i would much prefer to play standalone games than live services
I guess I didn't provide much of my perspective while I was going through outside of screenshots of fight victory screens with a shocked or blissful gif
there was a sale like back in september or october i wanna say but i was playing ff7 rebirth at that time
You also played lob corp beforehand right?
Yea misty didnt so her perspective was without the knowledge of those events, which is vastly different from my experience
I still can't believe those bastards got me to buy ruina at full price because I couldn't wait for a sale
best 30 bucks I've ever spent
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P3 (IDK what else to call you), you are in fact inherently biased against Project Moon. And that's fair, because this chat has definitely been slowly but steadily converted to PM propaganda. And sometimes it's annoying AF. Look at the rise in vexation against Expedition 33, and previous year Game Awards winners.
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Fate is not a series primarily written by queer people (to our knowledge, unless Nasu is genuinely Takeuchi's secret wife). But it is definitely still a series with themes that resonate strongly with queer audiences (including but far from limited to just myself), so calling Limbus "Fate but for queer people" is one hell of a misnomer. Mordred still counts, Xu Fu exists. Even if Morgan is roundabout self-insert shipping, she and Saber still apply. D'eon's entire existence. Mary Anning. I can and could go on.
project moon fans? annoying? i dont know what you're talking about
I'm glad you enjoyed LB6, but I also agree with P3 that you've been pretty jaded with FGO lately. And I don't blame you that much, because the gacha rates in the game are hell and manual farming is absolutely draining to do
But still. I'm really glad you enjoyed it
I think what LB6 does great is breaking up the formula FGO devolved into after a point where it was like
"you thought the last guy was bad? I'm high complex outerversal, with my Literary Reference Beam I will obliterate you and your friends because I'm so strong and muscular"
"master there is no way out of this one we are fucked"
"hey my name is Deus Ex Machina, my ability is to Deus Ex Machina, the playing field is now leveled enjoy a shitty 60-turn bossfight"
I do enjoy Aesc/Morgan's story a lot and it was pretty refreshing
forgot the most important part: "hey guys I am the outerversal asshole it's been a week I am now on rate-up"
Zeus never made it to rateup...
YET
I think my favorite moment in the entire game is still Arash's moment from the sixth singularity
the movie helps out tremendously but even within the game the narrative of a man like Arash overcoming Artoria's ambition is sweet and the exact type of pathos and beauty that can come from the concept of Fate
I'll concede that the scope of FGO Part 2 has been pretty extreme (though calling it 'high complex outerversal literary reference beam' is a highly gross reductionism, even before I consider the Limbus irony here)
But ig I'll just ask, how do you define a Deus Ex Machina- how much can a Deus Ex Machina be foreshadowed before it's no longer a DEM?
Musashi coming in to slash the (not a) wooly mammoth was first suggested like half a year before. LB4 spent its whole time deliberately circumventing the black box to be able to make it pay off at the end of the chapter, with the emotional throughline of Jinako's lonely cycles. One could argue that LB5 even broke DEM by having Super Orion face Artemis ahead of time and having us fight an Immature Beast. The closest thing to a DEM in LB3 was QSH being mindblown by the existence of a phone as proof of humanity's need to be individualistic
well lemme give FGO some credit and list an example of what I think they've done well, just to compare
||I think what they've done in OC has been really cool, the duels with Galahad and Not!Solomon are what I consider to be the best ways to go about the usual "formula"||
I think the more proactive and important Mash and Master end up being, the better
of course in order to do this we'd probably have to give the FGO MC a personality
i state it as bias because the name of a series was thrown without any corelation to the talk whatsoever, because in a situation where you want to critque a media, you would want to create a argument then use a franchise as a point of reference. my problem is not the subject its how its used, and it almost feels its used as propaganda, as you have as much said.
fate interacts with the concepts of gender well enough, but as far as themes related to sexuality goes it is so dissapointly shallow that i genuinely believe its not even a afterthought for the writers, D’eon is poorly executed nonbinary rep because agartha exists. and xu fusexuality is treated as a gag not only that but if you can consider the “mc sexual” modus operandi of the game, it has an exception to them. hell achilles, a very famous example of homosexuality (or at least implication, if you are “they were roomates” type of person), never even mention patroclus and is implied to feel attraction to atalante.
it somehow exists in a state of stasis that it doesn’t know how to proceed with those theme or explictly say that they are in fact not straight. as such i cannot in good faith say that fate represent the queer community well.
well it's not propaganda I'm just referencing a game series that's changed my life in a very real and very positive way
FGO LB6 was and still is a story that's been heralded by many people within the community as a really transcendent work of fiction and the apex of gacha stories
I had expectations set that it would move me in the way it's moved others but it was simply a very entertaining story
Limbus Company, being a gacha game, has stories too and those stories can be compared and contrasted to LB6 since both are contained within gacha games
I find FGO to be very "meatheaded", to put it lightly, its allusions to fiction range from a pleasant tribute to a cool and niche work of fiction (Taigong Wang) to an extremely offensive and ignorant take on a very important and foundational figure in literature (Roland)
what good writing there is to take away from the game I've found to be few and far between, sidelined in favor of the gacha machine
I think there is certainly something to be said about gacha fandoms and oberhyping their stories. Obviously fgo fans hyping up lb6 like the second coming of christ does it a bit of a disservice, but i cant say that other fandoms arent also guilty of that, limbus especially. Like if after all the people telling you that limbus story is amazing you started the game now and then dropped it before you finished canto 1, i couldnt even blame you all that much, because even if i like it and think it sets the groundwork nicely, i cant say with a straight face that its that much better than the singularities that come before camelot.
The same is true for the widely acclaimed arknights, a new player still has to slog through the admttedly subpar opening acts to get to the gems.
This slow start is true for many games but for gachas especially it seems to be more common and pronounced while also having fanbases that are more fantaic and tribalistic
I find fgo rarely does a "standard" way of interpreting myths anymore. It seems like for a while now every new servant has to have some sort of twist or gimmick. And sometimes they are genuinely interesting and clever but they are very much hit or miss.
And it hits especially hard if that miss happens to a character or mythos you care about
which is what happened to me with roland yeah
and the whiplash of playing Ruina cemented it even further
I know yami also despises the fate series for what it has done to the indian pantheon
(Or atleast thats one of the factors)
Saber for me was the biggest hit they've ever had and she will always be my goat
I similarly hate how they adapted Nero and people waifu'ing the Antichrist makes me cringe
Like, theyve stayed away from big J but basically all other religions are fair game and while some people enjoy the fate series takes on their deities, obviously this isnt true for everyone
they're lucky they're too cowardly to touch Jesus because their skin would ignite on contact like a vampire in sunlight
There was also the Wandjina fiasco recenty where im p sure youre like
Not suppossed to portray them or something among those lines?
And making a (excuse the language) waifu out of a figure like that to sell to people is really tonedeaf imo
This has evolved into a bit of an fgo bashing tanget huh
Ultimately i do think theres some genuinely exceptional storytelling in fgo but it is also a game that has had several different writers and has continued for over a decade, so these inconsitencies are only natural. Im able to not get too attached to things and enjoy it for what is. Ignoring the truly bad parts while savouring the fantastic ones. But that is not something you should expect everyone to do.
it is a shame because outside of FGO there are some amazing moments and ideas
King Arthur being so well-known that he's become a universal mediator for humanity summoned by a bunch of fucking Aliens is genuine peak
tbh, i do enjoy a lot of the non-combat aspects of the fate series and their writing
so it being a video game/gacha does feel weird to me
like i think of how the series would capture something like el meloi's case files into a video game... and i draw a bit of a blank (visual novel not included here)
saber has had such a profound impact on my existence that she's why I have gender dysphoria
You could probably make a banger game just focusing on the magic system without any combat
Like a cultist sim-esque game set in the nasuverse sounds like peak
and dont get me wrong: i have been liking samurai remnant
but it is definitely not as...
maybe pure?
of an experience?
it's not helped by the lack of depth in the gameplay
At the end of the day, the holy grail war is dimply the thing about fate that fans like the most
if it was a proper character action game then it would've been peak
"There must be a war with servants clashing or it wont sell" is likely the srance of type moon and i cant really fault them for that
and i dont mind that too much
Eveb if i would like a cultist sim clocktower or a point and click adventure game with waver
for instance, the anime of lord el meloi's conflict towards the end is the fact that, yeah waver covets another chance at iskandar
and, the case files wouldnt hit for me if i hadnt seen their fight
they should make a visual novel based off all of this stuff, I think that'd be really interesting
Speaking of visual novels it is the holy night soon ive heard
you all should read mahoyo it has someone undergo a gay awakening because they got their ass beat so hard
so true
honestly quite incredible, as they say
i owe an apology to limbus for being sure that FGO would win it all
i was unfamiliar with its game
it's so good
I apologize if it gets annoying but the story really is different
you can really tell Kim really loved reading books when he was younger just by the way some of these cantos play out
its actually so peak as a story
Only 10 more rolls for soft pity
Banyue is coming home (probably)
No signature is gonna suck tho
The upcoming event w-engine should be good for him
So you won't have to endure Puzzle Sphere
Oh thank god
Unc still got it (cleaning up some is3 missions)
Wait what is this?
polychrome total for 2.5
Allegedly 115 pulls for F2P in 2.5
i think i have about 160 right now counting my residual signal savings
but i haven't done any of the events other than golden mecha yet so still a lot of polys to claim
hoping to go into 2.5 with around 200 pulls and then i'm not f2p either so 138 is what i can expect
and with those pulls i want to get shunguang, sanby, and alice
and potentially one or more of their wengines if i can afford them
since after this is the very likely the idols who i don't want, nor are there any reruns i immediately want, so i can save up for a bit
Well Im gonna be trying for a rerun next patch
If I get Banyue
And after that I can save up for another 4 patches until they release another male character 
- Orphan of WWIII
- Griffin & Kryuger's Shining Beacon
- Belgrade's Unsung Guardian
- Defiant of Tallinn & Paldiski
- Exiled Hero of Frankfurt & the Neo-Soviet Union
- Lonesome Expatriate and New-Found Father
- The Valkyrie's Wayfarer
- The Blessed of Lviv
And a brave soul!
freak quixote...
maid rapi isn't real, she can't bless you
maid rapi: ||https://x.com/ARS_maniac/status/2002335623030714590/photo/1||
some more pull estimates for 2.5
I found some extra polychromes I might be able to get
... Arpeggio Fault
😔
I hope it doesnt come to that
canto 7 spoilers
||https://vxtwitter.com/chayre5792/status/1958616278257869083?s=20||
Been having a grand time in the new IS
In fact i had so much fun that i went back to old is modes to clean up tasks so i can e2 operators to use in the new one
Both exu alter and yu were an absolute blast to play when i borrowed them
So far I feel like special squad is the best
Chat, who here should get e2 next
Uh, Reed S3 is really good
Ig having another dps in the madic ticket would be neat
👍
HUH
12/21(日)、「ステイゴールド登場! プレミアム プリティーダービーガチャ」に★3ステイゴールドが登場予定です!
期間中は★3育成ウマ娘の提供割合が1.5倍にアップ!
詳細はお知らせをご確認ください。
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#ウマ娘 #ゲームウマ娘
Suddenly new dad

She escaped the NPC jail finally
It hasn't even been that long
I wasn't expecting her until one of the half annis
5 at the soonest
This is a very big surprise drop for me
And not to mention the second 1.5x 3* rate banner in the same month
Fgo jp spoiler
||https://vxtwitter.com/ivyfriday/status/2002465523767153127||
i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
True!
kind of unfortunate that the last gasp of the TV mode system was arpeggio fault
i did kinda like the TV mode, i think it'd still work as a novel thing they use from time to time
but the arpeggio fault implementation was just tedious as hell and sorta killed it for all time
Also I only have one event I hadnt finished and Ive done most of it sooo
At this point I just need to not get to hard pity
it's really really rare to get to hard pity in hoyo games, i believe


//THE WAY THE ANNOUNCER SCREAMED HER NAME
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︀︀GOOD LORD THIS OLD WOMAN GOT AURA
Quoting 山田もどき🧳@佐賀競馬→有馬記念→冬コミ (@ymdam02)
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Legend-Changer 〜黄金旅程〜
someone's here 1 event early lul
I literally cannot open twitter without getting part 2 fgo finale spoilers
The lack of Nikke news is driving me crazy
it's a bit strange they haven't announced even a livestream
they had one last year and had announced it by now
but as a point of comparison, they didn't announce RRH until the 23rd last year
year of elysion is also year of tardiness
remember how delayed rapi's skin voting was
i mean that was obviously deliberate, they didn't want to run that at the same time as her swimsuit skin
perhaps, but i'm not convinced that it'd have been run at the normal time even if cindy had won it instead
anyway, the new year event starts in like a few days, right?
they'll have to reveal the nikke for that at some point, at least
whether it's anis (most likely) or some curveball pick like snow white alt (unlikely)
finally did the simulated sequence banyue event
banyue is definitely fun as hell but i think this mode also gave me a glimpse of why they nerfed his damage into the ground
tbh his parry mechanic is kind of insane
i could buy that they just didn't want him to be unkillable and super high damage lol
Looks at Xiyuan
that's the void hunter diff
They should've just made him the void hunter smh
though banyue's parry mechanic feels more insane to me than basically any other in the game
yixuan's parry (which is also bullshit and gives her nutty iframes) is at least limited by her adrenaline
banyue just has a spammable insta-parry at no cost lol
to be clear i think he should do more damage than he currently does, i think they nerfed him too hard
especially given how hard he is to play properly




