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wispy goblet
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SHIT
IF JANE IS GETTING A SKIN
SHE MIGHT BE RERUNNING
AAAAUUUUUGGGGHHHHH

runic ether
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jane skin!?

wispy goblet
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I'M TRYNA BANK HOYOOOOOO

runic ether
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and rerun!?

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fuccc

wispy goblet
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ye I posted about it earlier

runic ether
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i may just give on ye shunguang

wispy goblet
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"Nocturne" is the name

runic ether
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her design is so chopped

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but jane's skin has to be fire

wispy goblet
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okay
as long as Jane is running in 2.5 and not 2.4
and ideally not the same half as Ye Shunguang
I have a chance

silver osprey
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The what combo

mental acorn
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you heard them clearly

silver osprey
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I'm not calling it that 😭

summer hornet
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If I can't escape NTR Knight, you can't escape Silveranus

wispy goblet
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hrmmm
I really want to grab Red Hood on her rerun banner
but I only have 529 gold tickets

wispy goblet
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If I spend 71 pulls
I have a 50% chance to get the banner
If I win the 50-50 I can get all three banners and still save 200 gold mileage
If I lose, I'll have only 98 pulls left over for Winter and New Years

rapid bough
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surely you just wait until the last day of free pulls and make your decision then

wispy goblet
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ye
but I'm not setting any expectations

digital marlin
rapid bough
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best i can do is +5 flat HP

digital marlin
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i nearly had a heart attack off those first two

wispy goblet
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Is this for Manato or Yidhari?

digital marlin
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Yidhari

runic ether
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cant believe they are making the hug gif canon

glossy latch
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The hug gif?

glossy latch
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Oh my

idle grove
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Nikke really dropping the banger CGs in the event

old galleon
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lots of moments like this

idle grove
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yeppers

digital marlin
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doing hte picture event in ZZZ and took a pic at the best time

runic ether
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oh right i should do that soon too

glossy latch
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Probably, given it ends tomorrow

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... I also need to still

astral drift
old galleon
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||they should go hit up the four beasts then||

dull bridge
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bro so fr I saw this and was like GENESYS FORMAT??

glossy latch
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Damn even in the story Qiuyuan just aurafarms

mental acorn
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canto 6 ||the öumfi association weren't öumfies after all....||

rapid bough
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they went all-out for it (and it's pretty obvious why given the story it tells)

glossy latch
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Oh that was sick

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Ngl this might be one of the best story chapters in any gacha I played

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Maybe the best even

glossy latch
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Yeaaaah Im thinking its either this or Aventurines chapter in HSR

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But yeah, great chapter

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I have no idea wtf ||Schwarzlochs|| accent is supposed to be though

summer hornet
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There has to be a running tally of ‘incredibly sus comments by Hong Lu’, right?

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Half the time he’s a goofball, a quarter of the time he’s ominous, and the last quarter he’s dropping unexpected wisdom but no one listens to it

runic ether
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he is simply nonchalant

summer hornet
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True

mental acorn
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6-34

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oh my god.

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what the fuck.

runic ether
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just wait for 6-35

mental acorn
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oh fuck

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||oh fuck somebody's talking to him||

runic ether
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||enjoy the context as to why heathcliff knew what it was like for what mayors went through int he arknights event||

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||it also brings up a ton of questions as to why meursault also knows like holy shit massive lore drop||

mental acorn
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||yeah that's uh||

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||like are you alright there buddy||

runic ether
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||in a limited time event no less too like what the fuck lol||

mental acorn
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||everything good in the backstory||

runic ether
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||also, distorted heathcliff is one of my favorite distortions of all time. but i am biased.||

mental acorn
runic ether
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||this canto still gets me emotional thinking about it||

dull bridge
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:p

pastel bear
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4 is my favorite but 6 gets really close

runic ether
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idk how to rank each canto ngl cus after 3, they all become different kinds of peak

runic ether
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||every canto from 3 onward||

timber sigil
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@rapid bough it is gunsmoke week my dude

silver osprey
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The French cat is approaching...

lusty egret
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Miaou

neon ore
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Mankind knew they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the Umas.

slow raft
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That's it, I'm tired of being single.
Looking for a husband.
He must have Outstanding Physical Strength, Excellent Mobility, Outstanding
Physical Resilience, Excellent Tactical Acumen, Outstanding Combat Skill, Flawed Originium Arts Assimilation, & 22 years of Combat Experience

silver osprey
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Did silverash write this

old galleon
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Q.2: If a Nikke hugs or sits on top of the Commander, won't his body get crushed?

A: The Commander is quite strong, so don't worry.
cuddles are alive and well

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Q.10: How deep below ground level is the Ark?

A: I will avoid answers that require too much scientific knowledge.
O.o

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Q.14: What is the most popular subculture in Ark?

A: Well, maybe... a strange pink-haired creature that walks on four legs...
ayo doro is canon canon

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Q.18: The first survivors on the surface appeared in the collaboration event with Stellar Blade, but are there any other survivors?

A: The Helmine bunker, simply put, is like a scaled-down version of the Ark. It's self-sufficient and safe from external attack. Its small size makes it perfectly manageable, and I think there are possibility that other vacant sites on Earth like it.

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welp, looks like we'll be finding more human survivors in teh future

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||Q.27: In Chapter 15, when reading Alva's diary, it mentions an AI called Eva that he himself created. Could it be related to D.E.E.P. or Enikk?||

||A: (They are) closely related. Maybe someday it will be touched upon.||
how deep of them

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||Q.31:How much of their memories do present-day Snow White and Scarlet retain about Red Hood?||

||A: "So there was such a comrade who existed". And they only knew because Rapunzel told them about her. They don't know what she looks like, and they have no memories of spending time with her.||
bruh

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Q.32: It seems that Syuen launched the Metis Project and achieved results many years ago, so perhaps she is older than he looks?

A: It would be extremely rude to reveal a woman's age, so I will refrain from commenting here.
does this mean we can call syuen a hag

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||Q.33: Is there a chance that the CEOs' pasts (Syuen, Mustang, Ingrid) will be revealed in the future?||

||A: It's still unclear what will happen to Ingrid, but we'll be depicting Syuen and Mustang's pasts next year.||
oh no

rapid bough
old galleon
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speaking of

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yes i know the sub is labeled nsfw; deal with it

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anyway, tons of questions in there (most of which i haven't p osted here) if you're interested

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Q.41: Currently only Julia is a member of the Master Hand squad, but is there a possibility that more members will join in the future?

A: There are "Pia"(ピア) and "Forte"(フォルテ) that only exist in the setting, and I haven't found the perfect opportunity to show them yet.
yay, she's not alone

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Q.42: How many other members were there in the Silvergun Squad, Marian's former unit?

A: I can't go into detail, but it's a lot—hundreds, maybe even thousands.
wait what

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didn't realize they broke their own rules to this extent and created a veritable army

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||Q.46: I would like to know why Chatterbox's lines are in quotation marks.||

||A: The quotation marks are used to express that the speaker is neither Nikke, nor Rapture, nor Heretic.||

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Q.50: Is there a chance that Nikke besides Tetra will become bunny girls one day?

A: Of course. Please look forward to next year's bunny girl event.
BUNNY NAGA IS POSSIBLE

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Q.52: Are there any designs for Nikke costumes that unfortunately were not used in the past?

A: There are many. There have been so many extreme designs that I feel embarrassed to describe them in words. Most of the time, they are rejected by the development team or the management team.
lmao

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anyway, assuming op's translations are accurate, some pretty interesting stuff in all that

rapid bough
old galleon
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i'd also be down for bunny tia

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i just prefer naga out of the two

rapid bough
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same by far

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just saying the two are basically a package deal

dull bridge
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wow

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hsr is annoying without acheron deleting all the chaff

pastel bear
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IT LOOKS LIKE PEAK

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IS BACK ON THE MENU

glossy latch
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Is that a human in the horse gacha?

silver osprey
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A girlfailure at that

slow raft
long tree
pastel bear
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NO

rapid bough
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ANOTHER nayuta freebie glowing gold... og emma dupe

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nayuta doth refuse to bless me

idle grove
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speaking of nayuta

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I get some nikkes have unconventional attacks

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but is it ever explained how she can do the shit she does because it seems way too out there

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this is me showing my year 1 only nikke brain

wispy goblet
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which shit she does

runic ether
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holy shit ppl were not joking about how many tutorials the new game mode for hsr has

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fortunately, this is the kind of shit my so is into

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i will never play this again

slow raft
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unfortunately, at the end of the day, tft is a good game, so the gamemode is good

runic ether
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yeah lol im just annoyed by how tutorial heavy this one is in hsr

slow raft
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yeah i just skipped over all of them cause i figure i already know all the mechanics

idle grove
slow raft
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the comp was fun but its very curious that anaxa just outdamage both my dps since he was onyl there to activate a bond

runic ether
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anaxa goated in all game modes confirmed

pastel bear
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I'm glad those who pulled anaxa have been able to fully reap the rewards for their efforts

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🙂

runic ether
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u dont need to own any character for this game mode

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enjoy him to your heart's content even tho hes a backfield gun bot

wispy goblet
idle grove
silver osprey
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My goat cooked again

old galleon
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powerwolf-ass song title

silver osprey
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Laterano moment

idle grove
pastel bear
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she is so fucking pretty

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has to be one of my favorite characters of all time

rapid bough
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maiden is another example of a nikke who can do magic shit (seemingly stop time)

idle grove
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I see

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fair enough

rapid bough
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and little mermaid has a similar power (called kotodama)

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most nikkes are fairly normal with super-strength, super-speed, or random gimmick powers like emitting and controlling electricity from their body (drake) and whatnot

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but there doesn't seem to be a theoretical limit to the wacky shit they can get up to

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still, the truly "magic"-tier powers seem to be reserved for the most myserious & powerful in the setting

idle grove
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it's when I see like Nayuta astral project and it's like how tf

rapid bough
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it's definitely a case of her being given monk-like aesthetic/design/mannerisms and that driving the powers they decided to give her as well

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though in-universe she does have a connection to DEEP ||who has also been shown to have some sort of connection to cloning/copying itself||

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so presumably there's a tie-in to her past, though we don't know really what it is, and the rest is just basically "random NIMPH bullshit go"

old galleon
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||meanwhile the commander gets some batshit insane regeneration powers bc that's apparently what vapaus does to a man||

rapid bough
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||ngl it was greatly amusing that the latest chapter started with him just fucking hitting the ground and breaking every bone in his body after all the theorizing the community was doing about who was going to save him because surely he can't survive the fall from whaley||

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||but amid that amusement i couldn't help but think "oh boy they're really cranking up this regen with him huh"||

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||it's one thing that he was regenerating shallow cuts and whatnot quickly... but his completely shattered body literally piecing itself back together right in front of the four beasts was a bit much||

orchid elbow
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I PULLED WEDDING DRESS MTG. Yay.

long tree
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Game on ez mode now

neon ore
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this is the most homosexual scene I've found in this game.

maiden veldt
mental acorn
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canto 6 ||ok this wild hunt sequence is cool as fuck but how the hell are we supposed to stop this guy||

runic ether
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||very carefully||

wispy goblet
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mental acorn
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just started uhh

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-41? impenetrable path or smth

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||> Wave 1/? monkaGIGA ||

slow raft
runic ether
runic ether
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zzz continues to be my favorite hoyo title by far

wispy goblet
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bunch of stuff in here clearly lines up with the big 2.5 leak we got too

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unrelatedly

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broke 400k in threshold

mental acorn
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||OH SHIT OH FUCK||

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||S-SIR VERGILIUS... MOST ILLUSTRIOUS COLOR...!||

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||unobservable attacks is fucking insane i love this game||

slow raft
runic ether
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||do you need to fill out an apology form? or were u a vergilius believer day 1||

mental acorn
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||level 3 irae slowly walking across the screen to smack a sinner and then slowly walking back across to smack verg is mildly funny||

runic ether
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||it is just very scared u must understand. thats the red goat.||

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||his anger is unreal with mono wrath attacks||

mental acorn
runic ether
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||now read leviathan (after finishing library of ruina||

mental acorn
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||RAMUS AUREUS RESONATUS EST!?!?!?||

runic ether
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||dante's turn to farm some aura||

runic ether
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i think given the amount of eve enjoyers here, we need to make the eve outpost

wispy goblet
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but what if we make a Nikke Outpost

summer hornet
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Canto 6-34 ||OH COME ON||

runic ether
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buckle up friend. it only gets better and better from here

summer hornet
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||please don't tell me there's going to be more Guttony immune ;_;||

runic ether
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oh

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||dw about that. rupture is true damage||

summer hornet
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Oh thank gooness

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||as far as the actual story- I was in denial up until Faust was like "yeah, he's legit". Actually insane||

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||also means that all the memes about Wild Hunt killing other Heathcliffs weren't just insane memes. Which is ACTUALLY insane lmfao||

runic ether
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||yeah not actual memes lmao if u saw memes about the reason no heathcliff ids for so long was bc of wild hunt heath, yeah uhh that may have actually been canon||\

mental acorn
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-47 ||no not like this ShioriCryA||

runic ether
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||through patches of violet.ogg||

summer hornet
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Finished 6-36

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||crying in my soul rn||

long tree
late canopy
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And then 2 wins 3 loss

runic ether
silver osprey
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Me and my 20 pulls are not getting the theater kid

rapid bough
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oh boy, nikke surface beta survey is out

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this one might be more of a bloodbath than their general survey after CN release lol

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i've reached the point where i just have to do the daily/weekly grind and yeah it's tedious as hell

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the mode desperately needs some QoL updates and then i think it'll be fine tbh

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not great, since i think the ceiling is capped on what the devs have said is ultimately made to be a very casual mode

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but good enough that doing the objectives on a weekly basis won't feel like so much of a slog

mental acorn
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||hey check out how hard i can cry||

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and with that canto 6 is complete

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6 > 4 > 5 >> 3 >>> 2 > 1 so far

slow raft
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6 is my favourite out of all of them still, even if i think that 8 is better

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alot of good fucking shit this canto

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||thoughts on nelly?||

runic ether
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||i have my thoughts on nelly and none of them are applicable for this server clearly ||

runic ether
mental acorn
silver osprey
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Don is my favourite so it's still chapter 7 as my favourite so far

mental acorn
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||i liked how The Big Three were all slightly different sorts of blind to the mirrors. infinite possibilities and none of them ever go your way yeah sure||

silver osprey
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Though chapter 8 having the smol tsundere and other characters that are spoiler makes it tied to chapter 6

runic ether
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canto 8 may have the best songs out of studio eim

silver osprey
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Oh yeah it's absolutely my favourite mili song in limbus

timber sigil
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@rapid bough where's ur v6 springfield despair

rapid bough
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i'll put her back up later today

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mb

old galleon
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seems like we're getting scarlet asmr at some point

rapid bough
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ratana reprising her role in a manner most based, verily

old galleon
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also idk how many of you follow vtubers but matara kan is gonna be streaming the remainder of part 2 of goddess fall later, just in case y'all want to see a content creator suffer

summer hornet
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I'm sorry for saying this

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Canto 6 ||Heathcliff: Cu + Emiya?||

runic ether
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no no

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||you're basically correct||

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||guy and i went over how much heathcliff had emiya moments in his story a few times||

summer hornet
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||a more Brutish method than Emiya||

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||but still the same general goal||

slow raft
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Just so i dont spoil anything, what chapter are you at, regi?

summer hornet
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Like 6-38 or so

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||whenever they revive Wild Hunt again with Lindley's corpse||

slow raft
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Gotcha

long tree
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Beeeeeeeeeg honse incoming

silver osprey
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Must save for cafe now

timber sigil
old galleon
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Freebie gave me nayuta ||dupe|| today

rapid bough
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could you spare a little nayuta good sir

old galleon
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Verily, if only such a thing were in the game's auspices

slow raft
summer hornet
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Currency Wars kinda just highlights how exhausting the endgame modes are to play lol

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At least up until you reach Amethyst Gold; then the trial characters start to fall off because of underleveled skills and shoddy relics

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Almost certainly by design, given how the game has a whole separate set of achievements for those upper level difficulties

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But it's seriously annoying

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I'm almost done with 3.7 story, and I've got ~120 tickets saved for the second half banners

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So far it hasn't been as bad as I feared it would be, but its runtime could still have been cut in half while keeping 95% of the same emotion

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Some stuff would have hit harder

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I dunno if I'll delete HSR entirely, but I think I'm gonna take a break from the game after 3.7

silver osprey
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What exactly does "kick forward hard" imply

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No idea if it's acceleration or velocity

mental acorn
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yummy speedy....

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she will be linked off into snatchy

silver osprey
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The secret 6th yummy

mental acorn
runic ether
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this looks like showdown's chat room lol

mental acorn
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surely there's underground uma fighting rings that exist

long tree
# silver osprey

turf
sprint
...pace
Discard the whole unit I dont even care anymore

silver osprey
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At least she has B in front so it's easy to make her a front runner

wispy goblet
runic ether
wispy goblet
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probably an NPC ye

idle grove
rapid bough
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i have to be missing something about how yidhari works, hers is the first perpetrator battle i didn't autopilot to 40k on

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and even now that i'm not autopiloting i can only get 38k

slow raft
rapid bough
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i definitely didn't have the hang of her parry

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but also i realized that the trial fufu was AWFUL

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the last time i used a trial fufu (i think in threshold sim) she was even better than my own fufu, with sig and everything

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this trial fufu had... cannon rotor? icant

old galleon
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naked king is so strong it caused matara's stream to cut lmao

rapid bough
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i gotta say miss esme restoring energy but not adrenaline is a bit unfortunate in the context of yidhari being spook shack

rapid bough
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well after one of the most frustrating play sessions of ZZZ i think i've ever had

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i can safely say that as hot as yidhari is, her gameplay is NOT for me

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glad i established that before i tried to waifu pull for her

old galleon
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real gameplay-brained of you

rapid bough
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trying to do ether 8 with yidhari may have taken 10 years off my life

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i had an easier time doing it with the jankiest corin team ever than i did with yidhari/fufu/lucia

rapid bough
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oh also: every time i play fufu in lost void, i am reminded how much i hate tag assists

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i hope to god the rumors that shunguang will be tag assist-focused aren't real

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unless they rework them anyway

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sharing the same button as parry/switch is genuinely so goddamn awful

wispy goblet
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It took a while for me to get the hang of
But Yidhari is a lot of fun
My problem is managing her ult
I keep letting it expire without using it or building another ult and wasting the previous one

wispy goblet
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also Lycaon outperforms Ju Fufu for Yidhari
although Ju Fufu is definitely easier to play

silver osprey
timber sigil
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Does he summon himself to field when you take damage

silver osprey
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He summons a cat if that counts

old galleon
silver osprey
old galleon
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if you look at it from far enough away, i guess tragoedia resembles a cat

timber sigil
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@rapid bough @idle grove holy shit Sakura is tiny

old galleon
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smol

lusty egret
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Must... get... Sinanju

silver osprey
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Cockliff

runic ether
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leaks were right

silver osprey
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Can I complain about Don having no new ID this season yet

runic ether
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next id surely

idle grove
rapid bough
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blursed doro bank

mental acorn
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battlepass' guaranteed 3* decaextraction ticket went pretty well i think

runic ether
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not bad at all

silver osprey
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Best Ish ID peepoHappy

slow raft
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Bros assembling a rupture team by chance

slow raft
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Speaking of, since my walpurgis pulls were done i finally bought all the ids id missed (shi faust, w coro heathcliff, cpntempt aw ryoshu and prince meursault) and did a bleed md run and i gotta say

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I ha e no idea how muh they improved the team but contempt, awe ryoshus animations are so good

astral drift
slow raft
slow raft
old galleon
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is this what the kids nowadays are calling silveranus

silver osprey
summer hornet
slow raft
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Finally, a heathcliff burn unit

summer hornet
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BURN

runic ether
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unless for some reason he isnt burn/rupture

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also, me the heathcliff fan thats eating fantastic this season

slow raft
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They should actually make a bleed heishou so i can play tremor rupture bleed 🤔

mental acorn
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I agree they should make more bleed units

slow raft
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Surely canto 9 will be the season of bleed

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(Again)

mental acorn
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if I believe hard enough, it will happen

summer hornet
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No, season 9 needs to be burn

mental acorn
runic ether
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canto 9 is bleed
canto 9 is burn

the notorious canto 9 charge season

slow raft
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Oh right j forgor the obviosu one

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Season 9 is smoke

runic ether
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if only

slow raft
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Time to give our veterans ptsd flashbacks

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Rt tho, the only thing im actually hoping for from season 9 is index ids

runic ether
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canto 9 is smoke because ryoshu is a chain smoker- you fool, canto 9 is smoke because we'll have dante become the red mist

slow raft
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Dante is B truthers will win, trust

summer hornet
runic ether
slow raft
runic ether
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i'll reach for you

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lor ||hokma's floor has a clock ticking in the floor theme, so clearly, hokma becomes dante||

slow raft
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Oh, but i can reach even harder

runic ether
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wait a sec... ||isnt his lob corp gimmick that he can move despite your pausing?||

slow raft
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No, worse

runic ether
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||latent temporal abilities, the numerous clock themes around him...||

slow raft
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||he takes your control of time away||

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Price of silence on his floor #nooooticing

runic ether
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canto 8||if in a future canto, dante furthers their control of time of the sinners and/or otherwise, given that morositas can affect even ppl like lei heng now too, i'll become a believer||

slow raft
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||Believer? Floor of religion mentioned?||

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||Dante chases after a star, blue star on hokmas floor? #noooticing||

runic ether
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||this keeps lining up more and more than dante is ayin theories||

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honestly tho im still kind of more and more hoping dante is just an original character and not someone we knew

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they more or less are rn

slow raft
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That was my hope form the start tbh

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Even if they turn out to be someone else at the end i want dante to be/become their own person

runic ether
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yeah fs

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the clock head comes off for a sec for a heart to heart, and then back to business

slow raft
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Certainly one of the more compelling gacha protags

runic ether
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definitely one that gets to farm aura in ways others dont

slow raft
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Giga cringe until they have to lock in

runic ether
#

canto 7 and 8 ||morositas moment was genuinely hype. also the way they were able to reach out to sancho. peak power of friendship earned||

runic ether
slow raft
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Dante is probably unironically ome of the sinners with the most growth

runic ether
#

real

slow raft
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Its more gradual than the others but its def there

runic ether
#

the sinners growing to respect dante more and more as each canto happens without having dante lose his silly

slow raft
#

ive been reviewing this like every 15 minutes bro why is that literally the same person

QRT: jojobi_luvv
am i tripping or do they sound the exact same

▶ Play video

I KNEW I WASNT TWEAKING HE HAS THE EXACT SAME MOVES AS HEATHCLIFF

QRT: jojobi_luvv
ive been reviewing this like every 15 minutes bro why is that literally the same person

runic ether
#

lmfao

mental acorn
#

good shit

runic ether
#

||i got caught off guard myself too. i was genuinely not expecting it to have it turn out that it was heathcliff all along. it fucking helps that also, sinners do just voice other characters so i thought nothing of it||

slow raft
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||Yeah, a ton of the vas are genuinely reused so sounding similar isnt enough||

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||Its a good twist and i also love that they explore more of what mirror worlds mean||

mental acorn
#

||i kept expecting sang yi to turn out to be evil so getting to see erlking was really cool||

runic ether
#

oh you finished canto 6 right

mental acorn
#

yea

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started working through tkt

runic ether
#

||wild hunt heathcliff id changes if you get him after canto 6 where he forgets cathy too||

runic ether
#

for no reason

mental acorn
#

||i hope they reveal the guy's name to be jack that'd be funny||

runic ether
#

after canto 5, the intervallos become extremely good for free

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tkt end game spoilers ||i love what they do to rodya this intervallo. fantastic follow-up to her canto where u can really highlight how bad she is in comparison to the rest of the sinners. in really stark contrast to yi sang and ishmael and heath. shes still stagnant and its all her fault, and she cant even hang it over sonya's head that hes doing nothing because he is. just excellent character build up||

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||im just really looking forward to her eventual crashout. i feel like if we dont get another sinner distortion in future cantos, im fully expecting shes the next one.||

mental acorn
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it's been quite fun so far
||i love this picture there's so much going on||

slow raft
mental acorn
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||like alright i guess outis has a penelope waiting at home, moresalt really is just a chill guy, ryoshu's stupid mustache||

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||heathcliff zonked out on the side||

slow raft
runic ether
slow raft
mental acorn
slow raft
mental acorn
#

word

slow raft
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Kromer return with prosthetics any day now

mental acorn
#

i'm a believer

runic ether
#

sinclair awoken with the sign mogs her immediately and we get a "i thought you were stronger!" moment

slow raft
#

Either that or somehow kromer gets the nothing there aberrations ego equipment and we need to call the red mist to handle her

runic ether
#

she gets nothing there and still gets mogged

slow raft
slow raft
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Thinking on it, its rather rare to see kromer shipped with anyoen that isnt sinclair

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Sometimes people throw in kraust or even demian but even then, sinclairs also there more often than not

glossy latch
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Not even with Spamton?

silver osprey
#

Finally, good sparks

slow raft
slow raft
pastel bear
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for as much as I love PM I think I'm burnt out on Limbus

old galleon
silver osprey
#

Think this makes my Kitasan LB2, so I just need to pull her once in the rerun

pastel bear
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I'm gonna start hoarding for kitasan black

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This is The Way

neon ore
mental acorn
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wtf there's so many qol updates today

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quick mode for team trials and multirace for dailies........

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wtf is a hint book

silver osprey
#

There's also some bugs rn

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Riko's last recreation event just doesn't work

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You select it but the event and rewards are completely skipped and you waste a turn

mental acorn
#

unplayable

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I require 6000 carats as compensation

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honestly though being able to schedule more than one race at a time is so fucking good

silver osprey
#

Also being able to select multiple monie stages to clear at once

neon ore
#

yknow what's hilarious. Actually spoiling yourself on the aptitudes of upcoming umas via their stats on your team in Unity Cup

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marking it just in case, but || holy moly! A only on Longs, and C in Medium is crazy||

mortal iron
#

How many free multis are we at in the card banner

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So far

mental acorn
#

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I think today makes 50

mental acorn
neon ore
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holy shit you don't have to mash thru team trials now

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god tier quality of life

old galleon
#

only one mentioned

mental acorn
#

alright tkt done

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felt shorter than the other intervallos ngl

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there's probably a t corp joke to be made there

runic ether
#

and then its followed up with peak

mental acorn
#

i think it's mildly funny that now that i'm able to start MotWE i've already basically cleared out the rerun shop

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|| icant ||

wispy goblet
#

Zenless Zone Zero Version 2.4 "On the Precipice of the Abyss" Special Program Announcement
︀︀
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︀︀
︀︀Hellish martial arts training with Banyue, and a surprise visit from Miss Dialyn!? Mr. Z, along with his mysterious guest, will be bringing the latest preview of Version 2.4 content.
︀︀In addition to intel on the new Agent and event details, more information about the Exaltists, their Creator, the Qingming Sword, Ye Shunguang, and more will be revealed in this program! Stay tuned!
︀︀
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runic ether
# mental acorn || icant ||

||oh wait have u leveled up w corp ids to ut3? this whole thing may be a bit out of context without doing so||

mental acorn
#

||what the fuck my one gimmick!!!||

mental acorn
runic ether
#

ah okay good

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||i didnt remember if they did or not but yeah those trains are fun||

summer hornet
runic ether
#

lesbian doesnt understand gay

rapid bough
#

i've thought this ever since it was changed but i'm up particularly early this morning and somewhat out of it and want to comment that the new nikke loading screen song (presumably for anni) sounds straight out of stellar blade and it momentarily makes me think it's running a stellar blade collab again lol

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(it's not actually a stellar blade song but it sounds like it could be)

silver osprey
paper spoke
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Needing all the stimulants, just like me fr

silver osprey
slow raft
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Predictions for the stream
1. Kim Ji Hoon finally addresses Shadow Kim
2. Sanity cap increased from 45 -> 46
3. Enkephalin can now be fed to sinners mid-battle
4. Removal of the scary face that appears at the end of every “Pass On” segment (when the screen turns black)

runic ether
#

kjh will announce the arknights collab bokgak and end stream immediately after

mental acorn
#

shadow kim monkaGIGA

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they're going to delay canto 9 until december 2026 and release the rest of the heishou

slow raft
#

Thatd be cool

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Bleed rupture heishou with a bleed deathrite pls

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Alternatively, release the refraction railway 1 bokgak

slow raft
runic ether
#

canto 8 ||shes just like jia qiu with 5 rings too||

astral drift
idle grove
#

how has this game made it onto steam 😭

slow raft
#

famously, steam has never hosted porn games before

glossy latch
#

God getting good echoes for Qiuyuan is such a paaaaaain

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I've got nearly everything else (except levelled skills since those are timegated) but I havent gotten a single good echo so far

pastel bear
#

she's quickly become my favorite

copper steppe
#

with the collective shout assholes and everything

#

well i guess im not up to date with the gooner lore

old galleon
#

tbf bd2 isn't a porn game

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but it is pretty close

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i was surprised it was being put on steam too lol

wispy goblet
#

Saw hard mode ending

idle grove
old galleon
#

having actually played it, no it's not

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ofc that doesn't stop people from doing porn mods of it and such

long tree
#

Doesnt it literally have a skin where you bdsm a character into an orgasm

digital marlin
rapid bough
#

some of the bd2 fated encounters get as close as you can get to being a porn game without actually crossing the line

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much like many of the recent azur lane skins

idle grove
rapid bough
#

this is canon

old galleon
#

bring out the holy hand grenade

slow raft
#

kinda of misinterpreted bronyas traits, but it wokred out in the end

summer hornet
#

Yeah she's treated as either Bloodflame or Belobog but not both at the same time iirc

#

Not sure why she's Bloodflame honestly

wispy goblet
#

HARD MODE MINOR SPOILERS
||I appreciate that Nayuta is a New Yorker at heart||

rapid bough
#

gonna do what i did for story part 2, wait til reset tomorrow then buy 5 attempts to finish it

old galleon
#

why tho

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hard mode is the one part where buying all the currency in advance isn't wasteful

rapid bough
#

if you're using some of the attempts for anything other than stage 11 it is

old galleon
#

not in hard mode

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saving the currency just backloads your attempts

rapid bough
#

do all of the stages give 4 core dust boxes?

old galleon
#

no, but you're also missing the point

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if you save, then you do 6-10 for free the next day instead of stage 11 5 times

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then on day 3 you do 11 5 times instead of 11 4 times and 12 once

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in contrast, if you front all the runs, you do 1-5 free, 6-12 with whatever you bought, clean up whatever else, then every other day is stage 11 5 times

rapid bough
#

ah i see what you mean

old galleon
#

i don't immediately see a reason that would be worse

#

i admit i could be mathing wrong but i'm not seeing it right now

rapid bough
#

guess i've always thought in terms of just maximizing the extra attempts without considering using extra attempts to get to the end faster makes the free attempts more valuable to match

old galleon
#

ye, i'm saying that if i'm not wrong in my math, then it should be equal on hard mode specifcially

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since stage 11 there is the most efficient

rapid bough
#

even if the math doesn't work out (it probably does but i'm too brain fried from work to figure it out atm) it's a very small optimization at best

#

probably not worth the stress of avoiding spoilers lol

old galleon
#

Save
Day 1: 1-5
Day 2: 6-10
Day 3: 11-12; 3x 11
Day 4: 5x 11
Day 5: 5x 11
Day 6: 5x 11
Day 7: 5x 11
Extras (Day 3 or Later): Some Number 11
Total: 24 plus Some Number 11

Spend
Day 1: 1-12; Some Number minus 6 11
Day 2: 5x 11
Day 3: 5x 11
Day 4: 5x 11
Day 5: 5x 11
Day 6: 5x 11
Day 7: 5x 11
Total: 30 + Some Number minus 6 11 (or 24 plus Some Number 11)

there's my rough mental math, i simplified the save scenario to buy all the currency on day 3 or later but it should work out even on day 2

rapid bough
#

honestly not much to say about the hard mode and minigame endings, ||though the minigame one made me sad again deadinside||

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||no snow white alt tease yet but we know it's coming||

old galleon
#

||event catapulted johan up the character rankings for me||

rapid bough
#

||doro seems to think there's not much time left before she runs away from her problems yet again and i'm not really sure what she's referring to amid the 50043958243095829034758 things we're running out of time on lol||

old galleon
rapid bough
#

||what was the proper translation supposed to be? translation team seems to be missing random things this event of varying importance, like accidentally saying cecil is a nikke lol||

old galleon
#

||sadly i don't immediately remember||

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||just that jp had it translated differentlly and in a way that made more sense||

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||wouldn't be surprised tho since apparently snow white referred to the queen as a just a guy or something||

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||She's saying it won't take much longer, in a just give me a little more time and I'll get my revenge on the ark then I can join you sort of way.||

rapid bough
old galleon
#

from le sub

rapid bough
#

||his VA did a lot of heavy lifting too, his barely restrained rage and grief at various points during the event was perfectly done||

old galleon
rapid bough
#

||minigame story also gave us a nice full circle on bestowing the goddess of victory title to harran; shame isabel and noah didn't hear it||

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||as cheesy as it is whenever they pull the "you're my/our goddess(es) of victory" refrain, it gets me every time without fail||

rapid bough
#

||i imagine she'll go back to the ark and turn up the heat on the third surface reclamation war since she thinks that's her ticket to revenge||

old galleon
#

||that would seem to be the case based on that translation i found||

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||but they keep blue-balling doro's development||

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||insisting on this ark revenge crusade even after all that's happened is like pulling teeth||

rapid bough
#

||with the event hard mode ending setting up the johan text to commander, gotta wonder what commander will be up to? seems to me he'd be the top candidate to lead the third surface reclamation war, but he's also always just done his own thing and if he takes an short notice trip to eden that might throw a wrench in things||

rapid bough
old galleon
#

||i have no clue what they'll be doing next||

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||there's this stuff with eden, but also neon's off to god-knows-where as far as they know, and then ark politics will probably try to entangle commander & co in their mess||

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||and there's a very real chance sixo usurps enikk in some way sometime soon lol||

rapid bough
#

||the surface story stakes just shot through the roof with the queen out and about in the strongest nikke's body, and the hard mode + c42 ending set that up as our next main adventure, but there's definitely the question of what they're gonna do in the ark||

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||my theory is that anis/neon will continue being our ark POV chars... anis hasn't even had her concert yet, and ofc neon is fucking MIA||

old galleon
#

||inb4 anis concert is the ny event||

rapid bough
#

||and yeah the sixo and enikk storyline is moving bigly too, there's basically nothing they can just sideline for a bit since it's all coming to a head ||

rapid bough
#

in other news

#

done and done

#

cya to this mid minigame

#

shame since old tales' minigame was a banger

old galleon
#

right i need to do more of that

#

which is annoying bc i'm not a big fan

#

into the mirror was fantastic

#

probably still the best minigame nikke's had, that i've played

rapid bough
#

it's not very time consuming so at least it's not very painful to get through

#

but yeah this minigame was definitely a miss

#

however i did appreciate the inherit backstory it gave

#

so on that basis alone it was acceptable

slow raft
#

Nikke story spoilers

old galleon
#

||helm, privaty, and a whole army of others about to organize a wife hunt||

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||too bad isabel's a bit too incapacitated to join in||

wispy goblet
#

man
My internet has been out for going on a week now
Using my hotspot to scrape through my dailies is exhausting

old galleon
#

my internet's okay for now but i was having some issues earlier too

#

i also heard the northern lights were happening and there was supposed to be some geomagnetic storm or something going on (which sounds kinda nuts to me but hey)

old galleon
#

oh boy apparently 3rd anni reports are up now

#

cue the mass spam

wispy goblet
#

well I'll have to get mine another time

summer hornet
#

Canto 6-41 through 43 ||Holy freaking shit||

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||Also Dante can slow down time now, it’s kinda glossed over but that’s a BIG deal||

#

Also, please tell me this is a viable healing EGO

#

Every new fight shows me how desperately I need some sort of regen in my team comps

runic ether
#

its solid

#

it doesnt do full team healing (only fluid sac faust does really) but its very strong healing and it rolls pretty well

runic ether
runic ether
#

deleting those i think its like 2-3 chapters ahead of u

#

||but yeah, i fucking love dante. they begin getting powerful on their own right and way more vocal and with good leadership qualities. its so fucking peak how the sinners treat them now compared to in the earlier cantos||

idle grove
mortal iron
#

what the shit, ZZZ is getting another figuarts

lusty egret
#

Owo

slow raft
silver osprey
mental acorn
#

holy moly

#

mostima en is finally real

silver osprey
#

BROTHER I HAD 20 PULLS

silver osprey
#

Oh yeah we have french cat now

summer hornet
#

Seriously, I feel the lack of Mon3tr EGO more and more with each passing day

#

The real Regret Faust in my life

runic ether
#

fluid sac

#

its technically by all means better

summer hornet
#

Except in Heishou, right? But yeah, I'm saving up resources for it rn

runic ether
#

its fine in rupture

#

u can argue its better

#

because maost, while she doesnt fuel it well, is fast

#

meaning she can more or less guarantee to fire it off

silver osprey
#

I'd say it's a sidegrade

slow raft
#

Yea

runic ether
#

more often than not, she'll also use it before the enemy can attack too

#

which can impact clashing

#

command meltdown just rolls really well tho

slow raft
#

Being fast is very good for sp recovery and debuffs, yea

#

Ledgermain hits different on a fast gregor id

silver osprey
#

Kal does a lot more damage but fluid sac heals more at once

slow raft
runic ether
#

will say, the only thing about pursuance rodya is that she doesnt has the fastest ids out there. theres a few but not many

summer hornet
#

Just to check... Speed doesn't directly affect your damage/rolls in clashes, right?

#

Aside from people like Mao Faust who have it built in

slow raft
#

Only for people with conditionals like the maos, and the cinq, yea

runic ether
#

some ids do but

#

yeah

#

it just lets you control where clashes go more or less

#

which is very powerful in its own right

#

also some effects can go off before/after due to speed

#

aforementioned fluid sac on maost using her to mass heal sp while someone else takes a favorable clash that turns it into a dominating clash

slow raft
#

For example, same turn paralyze and fragility effects are better to have on high speed units

runic ether
#

or using the healing to offset bleed on the turn that unit would die to bleed

silver osprey
#

Ok yeah tragodia is stupid wtf

#

Arturia in shambles

#

Why does he get splash damage that also does a shit ton of necrosis damage, plus a 30 SP cost permanent skill that deploys a bomb every 20 seconds

mental acorn
old galleon
#

Giving new meaning to "just surtr it"

mental acorn
#

absolute cinema

old galleon
#

Jelly acquired

#

Right on fuckin time too, with solo raid having started

rapid bough
#

me still waiting on both her and nayuta

#

obviously i could get them if i wanted, just the unfortunate reality of trying to maximize my freebies

#

i'll snag them both if i haven't already on last day of solo raid

old galleon
#

Nayuta has been incredibly good for me so far

#

I'm gonna test her in kraken today

rapid bough
#

well she doth be incredibly good in general, verily

#

as is liberalio

#

no surprise, both of the anni units are insane

#

liberalio gives SBS a perfect partner and nayuta is good basically anywhere

rapid bough
#

probably absolutely dogwalks it

#

man i love anni

#

probably gonna be down to 377 golden mileage by the end assuming i don't get lucky on nayuta/liberalio freebies (which is a fair assumption)

#

but having over 800 pulls saved (with over 100 of those just being from anni lol) feelsgood

slow raft
timber sigil
old galleon
#

dorktah

silver osprey
idle grove
rapid bough
#

la creatura roams the surface

old galleon
#

||la creatura fue expelado del paradiso||

rapid bough
#

||"everything superfluous will be banished from paradise"||

old galleon
#

||shoudl probably be expelaba instaed of expelado but fuck it||

#

||decided my first one makes more sense after double checking||

wispy goblet
#

that doro piggy bank that's going around is tempting me

mortal iron
wispy goblet
#

NIKKE EVENT SPOILERS
||I see a lot of Dorothy + Red Shoes/Mirror predictions going around. Do y'all put any stock in that?||

rapid bough
#

||mirror doesn't seem the type to want to team up with someone as unpredictable and mentally unstable as dorothy||

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|| think doro is just going to go back to the ark and pump them up for the third surface reclamation war||

wispy goblet
#

||Thinking about it, since the surface content is supposed to officially drop in a patch cycle or two, that will probably coincide with the Third War in the story.||

wispy goblet
summer hornet
#

Finished Canto 6

#

||The song is positively heartbreaking, and the way that they set up the final fight was amazing. I kept expecting another Mirror Dungeon (and kinda dreading it lmao), but there wasn't one. And that was even more impressive, in a way- the Canto was complete without it. Not adhering to a gameplay routine for the sake of routine||

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||This scene just made me laugh (even in the eleventh hour Dante's a bit of a goofball)||

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||This scene made me audibly say "what the fuck" for like a minute. Was afraid to touch my screen lmao. SO freaking cool||

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||if Jotlico saw this he'd be powerscaling, I can feel it. That's an insanely outrageous thing to say||

runic ether
#

peak realized

runic ether
#

||not that the next 2 arent fantastic i just fucking love heathcliff||

summer hornet
#

||it applies to BOTH OF THEM. AND THEY HAVE TWO VERSIONS. AND THEN OVERLAY THEM||

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||ITS SUCH A BEAUTIFULLY HEARTBREAKING SONG||

runic ether
#

||i love the scene of all the heathcliffs and catherines trying to end together but its all different worlds of each and they cant seem to reach... until at the very end, just one.||

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||will say, i didnt cry at this canto. but this game has gotten me super close to doing so in this stretch from 6 to 8||

summer hornet
#

||"in every universe" ahh scene, but unironically on a level that Doctor Strange could never achieve||

runic ether
#

||they have potential to be really powerful each in many worlds||

runic ether
#

also ur gonna like timekilling time and murder on the warp express a lot i feel

#

sure, cantos 1-3 were good-great even

#

canto 4 is peak, and 5 is fantastic

#

but their intervallos were just ok

#

ever since 5 ended, limbus has been on a run with insanely good cantos and the corresponding intervallos have been really good too

summer hornet
#

I am fully on board for further peak

#

Oh wait

#

What's the requirement for the current Warp Train event again?

runic ether
#

u can try now?

#

u may need to beat tkt

#

which, is not bad tho cus tkt is fucking great

#

i like it more than motw but

#

motw def further solidified faust as my other favorite sinner

#

so im biased tbere

#

*there

#

tkt is just great for all sinners

summer hornet
#

I can't decide on a single favorite sinner lol

#

It's just the ones I like and the ones I love

summer hornet
#

So almost but not quite there

runic ether
#

i really like all the sinners

#

there isnt a sinner i dislike

#

i just have my favorites

summer hornet
#

Yeah, the small restrained roster

#

I have to admit

#

Really is showing dividends

#

Every time I try to even say "top 5 sinners" I'm reminded of a really cool moment the other sinners had

#

||Yi Sang opening up to the group after his Canto, Faust monologuing at rapid speed when she's upset with people interrupting her, Outis admitting she knows how hard it is to be a leader, Ishmael letting go of her revenge, Heathcliff saying that he has faith in us to pull him back- the way he changed "Revenge" to "Remember"-, Rodion always lightening the mood. Merusalt's cooking advice||

#

They've all come so far already

runic ether
#

||meursault had a huge moment in canto 6 where he used chains of others on erlking unprompted by anyone||

summer hornet
#

||omg that's RIGHT||

#

||it slipped my mind because of Nelly. Who I'm understanding but unforgiving of. Holy schist||

#

||I called us fighting her but I didn't think it'd be THAT heartbreaking||

runic ether
#

hope u like characters continuing to develop and become more and more interesting as each chapter and intervallo goes on.

#

making it harder and harder to claim a fave

pastel bear
#

regi finished peak

#

peak.

runic ether
#

to update this after the latest content, everyone in b tier goes up to a, meursault hits s tier below dante, and sinclair sits behind yi sang

silver osprey
#

Don is sinking

runic ether
#

don quigoate

wispy goblet
#

Watched most of the 2.4 preview
But I'm in a rush this morning, so I'll have to go through it more thoroughly later

silver osprey
#

I'm taking it

slow raft
mental acorn
slow raft
mental acorn
#

oh refraction railway line 1 bokgak that's neat

slow raft
#

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

#

TIME TO STOMP ON THOSE FRAUDS

copper steppe
#

oh gil is grand archer

#

not suprising

#

his name is gilgamesh naked

slow raft
copper steppe
#

this is not a joke

slow raft
slow raft
#

||Theres even some ids we know in there||

runic ether
#

this ego is gonna fuck

lusty egret
#

Ooh very cool awsthetic

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Spider Lily is such cool theme

slow raft
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threadspin 5
monkaGIGA

runic ether
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threadspin 5 is insane (it'll be like 300 thread per)

silver osprey
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Blurn team next season then

runic ether
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alternating walp every 2 months seems like a great compromise if we get story/no story alternating too

slow raft
runic ether
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lets goo lesbians

lusty egret
runic ether
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this is how the ryoshu ego and canto will be about tremor...

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i just remade my tier list. im ready for canto 9 to elevate everyone further

silver osprey
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Don and Yi Sang not in S

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Tsk tsk

runic ether
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i have my faves

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not that i dislike either of them

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oh man... shes so chopped. her face is just... bad idk what it is exactly. she just looks off and her bangs are bad too

torn harbor
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What is the best male-female playable character ratio you guys have seen in a gacha game?

runic ether
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50/50/1

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there are 6 male sinners + vergilius, 6 female sinners + charon, and dante

torn harbor
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Wizardry is practically even
With the current total being 30 female and 31 Male
(With the most recent released character being a femboy elf)

runic ether
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fair... dialyn and banyue have a much more unique looking face and design tho by far. idk why shunguang's design bothers me. i think part of it also is her outfit feels super uninspired.

rapid bough
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i'm used to "outfit seems uninspired" after lucia and yidhari lol

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at least she doesn't have booty shorts

runic ether
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lol true

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idk i dont feel like shes as special as they are making her out to be too

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like i can at least give hsr the benefit that they really did pop off with phainon and cyrene's designs and promo work and face cards

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weirdly enough, i think i'd like her more if she had more yellow in her outfit tho i feel like then she may look too much like yixuan with her white hair

rapid bough
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i don't really agree that her outfit is uninspired tho, at least not in the same way that lucia and yidhari's were

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her outfit is simple but it doesn't really clash with other aspects of her design like, say, yidhari's does

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seems like a more simple/elegant "priestess"-type look which if they're trying to evoke kitsune (and i think they are given her alt form) makes sense?

runic ether
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which i feel doesnt line up with prior priestess looks

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that they have done before

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and like yeah i wouldnt want them to remake yae miko or sakura

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but maybe the skin shes supposed to have will help

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cus i felt similar about yi xuan's og fit but i actually grew to like it

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i think she just looks way too different to the rest of us in yunkui summit too

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and i get why but idk

rapid bough
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yeah to be fair she's treated differently from the rest of yunkui too lol

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off doing her own thing for reasons unknown

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feels like she's yunkui in name only both in terms of story and potentially appearance

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and upcoming story events may have her move beyond yunkui ||if she becomes a void hunter|| idk

runic ether
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yeah and ||for a void hunter tier, she has had barely enough build up compared to yi xuan or miyabi. feels kind of shoe in||

rapid bough
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||i mean, give it time lol. we're still two patches away from her release; remember we only met yixuan literally right before her release in 2.0||

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||if the story preview in the stream w/ her alt form is any indication, she'll probably get her hype moment soon, just like yixuan did when she casually 1v5'd a bunch of thanatos to save the proxies||

runic ether
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maybe so, tho in this scenario, i think i mentally give it a pass since ||yi xuan is not a void hunter, but shunguang will supposedly have the title. i feel like for someone of this tier, we should have met her even briefly in 2.0, and have her a little more present since||

slow raft
rapid bough
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||i mean i think that's a formality since yixuan was literally offered the title and turned it down, and she's obviously at least equal in power to the only other void hunter we've interacted with||

runic ether
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the trailer for her fighting and matching miyabi was really funny even if it was really well animated cus it felt necessary due to how sudden yi xuan came

rapid bough
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||my actual question is - what has shunguang done that makes her worthy of the title? power is one aspect obviously (i'm sure we'll learn about that too), but yixuan's place in the story (leader of yunkui summit) was established pretty early... wtf is special about shunguang||

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i'm sure the upcoming chapters will answer that, but so much is unknown about her atm

runic ether
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||low key, multiple scenes of shifu during 2.x patches should likely have gone to shunguang for this feeling of her not feeling proper in many ways to not be present for me||

silver osprey
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Why tf did they put so much effort on water droplets

runic ether
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||i think if shunguang had been the one to save us when we were chilling with the spook shack maybe it'd be better||

silver osprey
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Not that I'm complaining, but still

rapid bough
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whether they are good reasons remains to be seen lol

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for better or worse, these last few chapters (except the most recent one) they committed to waifei being yixuan's turf, so she operates as a sort of yixuan-ex-machina and shows up to save the day or tip the scales in basically every conflict

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and while narratively that's a bit frustrating, it'd make even less sense for yixuan to be missing during all the catastrophes in waifei, and if she's there then obviously she's helping

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meanwhile we still don't know what shunguang's association with yunkui actually is, since she seems to be very disconnected from it all to the point that she didn't want yixuan to know she was even in waifei

runic ether
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right yeah that def doesnt help

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||i've seen ppl throw around that shunguang's actually with krampus now primarily but again, this would even more be a case of 2.4 needing to carry a massive amount of weight in regards to dialyn, banyue, zhao, and shunguang||

rapid bough
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||if dialyn/banyue can release simultaneously as krampus/yunkui respectively, then so can zhao/shunguang lol||

runic ether
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||no yeah idm that, rather, i feel like 2.4 will need to feel the pressure to have all of them properly do things. like for instance, i think seed and orphie were pretty poorly handled with understanding them better while juggling trigger and 11 (they basically didnt use 11 much) and i dont see how that'd change for 2.4 handling 4 characters||

rapid bough
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if anything i think it will be to their benefit to have 2 patches to handle 4 characters; seed/orphie's biggest issue was only having one chapter to focus on the obol stuff, shunguang (and zhao) meanwhile should have two to focus on whatever's going on with them

runic ether
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for sure, tho i doubt the gravitas will be enough for shunguang (and zhao i feel like she is the one thats screwed)

rapid bough
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zhao has never done much for me so unfortunately i will shed no tears at her likely being eclipsed by shunguang lol

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disagree that two chapters won't be enough for for shunguang though

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yixuan really only had one chapter, and miyabi arguably only had one too

runic ether
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idk. miyabi by all means had 4 patches and i still feel like she was slightly undercooked in hype if it wasnt a case of us playing with her in the beta.

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tho miyabi did also have to have a face lift

rapid bough
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miyabi did not have 4 patches lmao

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the gap between her name being mentioned and actually featuring does not 4 patches of meaningful development make

runic ether
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she was quite present since 1.0 in terms of story, even in small bits

rapid bough
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we knew almost nothing about her until 1.4

runic ether
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which is kind of all i'd have liked for shunguang as a fellow void hunter. see her once meaningfully early in 2.0, and then bits and pieces

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1.3 also had her pretty meaningfully involved in yanagi's story

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she showed up and talked to us at the end of 1.2

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really only 1.1 and even then, she was featured with zhu yuan's backstory

rapid bough
runic ether
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which is all that shunguang needs

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but they havent really

rapid bough
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i mean

runic ether
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or well, really, they'd need a lot more

rapid bough
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we've had hints toward shunguang's importance via shiyuan since 2.0, and that's only been building since it drove him to work with sarah

runic ether
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or else ppl wouldnt be complaining about how we are meeting ppl way too randomly or abruptly

rapid bough
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and if shunguang releases in two patches, then the next patch is likely poised to be a virtual revenge-style buildup where we learn more about her

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so it sure seems to me like she's getting more similar to miyabi buildup than even yixuan did lol

runic ether
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hopefully so. again tho i feel like shunguang's got the making of a total mess.

rapid bough
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i don't buy that miyabi's off-screen buildup pre-yanagi agent story was any more significant than what we've gotten with shunguang

runic ether
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miyabi def had way more aura buildup

rapid bough
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is "i'm zhu yuan and i went to school with miyabi" that much different from "i'm ye shiyuan and my sister has some unknown iproblem i need to save her from and will seem to betray you to do so"

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(the answer is yes but the difference is in shunguang's favor lol)

runic ether
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her saving us in hollow zero did a lot for miyabi's presence

rapid bough
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sure, but that's the same narratively as yixuan doing it for us at the end of part 1

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and shunguang's probably poised to do it again next patch lol

runic ether
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shiyuan's comment puts shunguang on the back foot here

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since she is viewed as someone who needs to be saved rather than being the one who saves others

rapid bough
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i mean i certainly feel like shunguang is special somehow, and there's more mystery behind why which i find compelling

rapid bough
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so we know there's something up here

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i.e., more than meets the eye

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i like that more than "miyabi is a void hunter, she big strong and special"

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or at least i find it more interesting

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i honestly think there's a bit of retroactive miyabi hypewashing going on here

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she really did not have much more for her release than shunguang is set up to have by her release

runic ether
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big disagree there. cus again, miyabi's presence since the beginning helped keep her hype up, and again, i feel like even then she wasnt hyped enough for the gravitas of what void hunter was supposed to have.

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we had a pretty good idea of who miyabi was superficially from in-game since 1.0

rapid bough
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it sounds like you engaged more with miyabi's buildup than shunguang's and that's fine but i don't remember caring that much about miyabi pre-1.4 and i care about the same amount about shunguang entering 2.4 which should give shunguang an entire extra patch of buildup before release

runic ether
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we still dont really know shunguang much until the very end of 2.3, and i do hope 2.4 helps her before the climax in 2.5

rapid bough
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i'll also point out that shunguang is literally not a void hunter

runic ether
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i just dont feel like it'll land

rapid bough
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miyabi's pre-release hype was built entirely on her being a void hunter

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shunguang doesn't have that luxury

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she might become one, but that's presumably what the next two entire chapters will be building toward lol

runic ether
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i hope yea

rapid bough
runic ether
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cus it is frustrating that zzz is def the weakest story from hoyo by far yet its definitely the better of the hoyo games

runic ether
rapid bough
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at least half of that basically worked as void hunter hype so it's more "she is void hunter" to me

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i don't remember the piece about her mother playing any role pre-1.4

runic ether
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when she talks to us at the end of 1.2 on our way back

rapid bough
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ah i completely forgot about that scene at the end of 1.2, i had to piece together that 1.2 was the sons of calydon chapter lol

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ok fair, that was a meaningful piece pre-1.4

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but i don't think the rest was much more than hype building

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imo if 2.4 builds shunguang as expected, as much as that bit of 1.2 + her role in 1.3 built miyabi, then i think her release will fit well enough

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she'll have gotten more buildup than yixuan at that point lol, significantly so

rapid bough
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just actually watched the stream and saw that it answers quite a few questions about shunguang, ||namely that she was chosen by the qingming sword and has been purposely kept isolated from yunkui on special "training" primarily designed to keep her safe as yixuan continues to investigate how to break the curse of the sword||

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i assume all that will be explained in the actual chapter too lol

mental acorn
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MotWE cleared

runic ether
mental acorn
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||fraudsetti getting aura farmed by don quigoate was peak||

runic ether
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||an easy to miss detail in that scene is even just don awakening immediately killed faust||

mental acorn
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||she's just built different, that's why she's the goat||

runic ether
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||i also love that apparently, this wasnt even a surprise to ppl bc ppl had already long since theorized don was a bloodfiend due to her base ego sangre de sancho having a vampirism healing lol||

mental acorn
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||yeah that's pretty cute||

runic ether
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||tho as i said, really love how motwe characterizes who faust really is. its a good contrast yet even still, she is a genius||

mental acorn
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||the employee guy having disappeared at the end is cool can't wait to get hired again to figure out the problem for real this time||

runic ether
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||oh yeah that. real talk, we have no fucking clue still. my guess is that there is something else even there fucking with w corp||

mental acorn
runic ether
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||i've seen ppl theorizing that its a quirk of t corp and time displacement through the w corp/t corp deal they have but we dont know||

old galleon
runic ether
old galleon
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...they named him naked gilgamesh

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i hate it

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easily the worst of the six grands

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and this includes "from literally out of fucking nowhere indra"

wispy goblet
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Dialyn is tempting me once again
But I have to bank for Ye Shunguang and the Jane rerun I'm predicting

slow raft
rapid bough
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i want the vivi skin so i have to pull one of dialyn, banyue, hugo, or ellen

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dialyn is the obvious choice but i kinda want all 4 to varying degrees lol

runic ether
runic ether
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ellen post rework feels great too

rapid bough
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too bad both of them have been made irrelevant in this rupture shilled world

runic ether
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yeah nukgar

wispy goblet
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smh not playing the long game for when Rupture rotates out

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y'all are too Yu-Gi-Oh eternal format pilled
this is a rotating format ZZZ is going for

rapid bough
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well i am playing the long game

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i think dialyn will probably age best of the 4 lol

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even outside of rupture meta

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qingyi is still good, and dialyn feels to me like qingyi but better

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supports are basically evergreen and stunners are basically supports

wispy goblet
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Dialyn's stun multiplier is a lot lower
looks like it's only +15% in that footage they showed

rapid bough
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sure but she gives a meaty damage buff and several free ults lmao

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also doesn't need as much on field time

runic ether
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im giving her a week post release before deciding

rapid bough
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i'll prolly wait for calcs too

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but she seems to me like she'll be the new premiere stunner for DPS funnel comps

wispy goblet
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speaking of calcs
saw preliminary numbers that put S11 with her bonus pseudo-mindscapes at basically par with Evelyn "with room for improvement"

rapid bough
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at least ones that don't already use lighter who is still the fire/ice goat

rapid bough
wispy goblet
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these fiends better not rerun anyone else I care about in 2.5 or 2.6
also 2.7 please

rapid bough
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they could buff s11 to levels where she astrogaps even miyabi and i'd still use eve

wispy goblet
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Ye Shunguang and Jane will already be a stretch

rapid bough
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i actually question whether i will ever pull another limited fire attack unit lol

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i believe in evelyn chevalier supremacy

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one day when i feel particularly comfortable with my savings i will get her m6

rapid bough
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i basically only want sanby atm

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oh and alice

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if i wasn't worried about saving i'd pick up hugo and ellen too but alas

summer hornet
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I MUST BE THE REASON WHY

mental acorn
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through patches of violet is so fucking goated but after some rumination I think compass slightly beats it for me

summer hornet
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"A genius, perfect job / isn't that enough, isn't that enough" still loops in my head

slow raft
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I think for me its

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Fly, my broken wings -> between two worlds -> through patches of violet -> compass
Of the songs you know and rated by how much i liie listening to them, not how good they are narratively

runic ether
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my ranking of the mili canto songs
patches of violet > hero > fly, broken wings > tiantian/compass

wispy goblet
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not a particularly difficult DA for my roster this cycle

runic ether
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tho if we include all pjm mili works, gone angels and iron lotus do rank higher than the others. idk if i put children of the city above patches of violet

wispy goblet
slow raft
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And then is heard no more and Gone angles are peak for me

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World execute(me) is not an official mili pm song but its would be up there if it were

runic ether
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gone angels may genuinely just be one of mili's best songs in general

runic ether
wispy goblet
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gonna relish in being top 8.97% until more people play

slow raft
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I just mentioned the song because an animation for lob corp that featured the song is is what put mili on the radar of the company iirc

runic ether
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really

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lol

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i kind of assumed kjh and/or other pjm employees were friends with the members of mili

slow raft
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oh right regi, rememebr this convo from more than a year back lmao

runic ether
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canto 6, ubw ||erlking throws heathcliff a dagger "now kill yourself"||

idle grove
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hmm

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twitter sign in for nikke on desktop has just randomly stopped working for me

rapid bough
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i don't use twitter sign in so i am of no help, not even to sanity check