#Gacha Chat

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versed pawn
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u know can buff your electro team by pulling for augusta

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and buff your augusta by pulling iuno

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apparently also more tower floors

glossy latch
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But then I risk not getting Galbrena 😔

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Also I think I can still max the middle tower with it

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I just need to play better

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I mean I say that, some madman has already solod it with Danjin

versed pawn
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note that these solos are usually s6 eog5 if im not mistaken

glossy latch
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I mean yeah

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But I have Xiangli at S0R1

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So he should be doing good

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(I do think I can beat it, its just not easy and I cant be bothered to grind rn)

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... or I just use Phrolova 🤔

summer hornet
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Lost e2 Archer 50/50 to Gepard

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I think I might abandon e2 Archer in favor of getting Saber e1

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Since I'm already using him with SW

runic ether
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saber eidolons are kinda shit

summer hornet
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Yeah they don't scale great

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But it's Fate

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And I'm already e0s1

slow raft
summer hornet
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March is likely to stay an HP scaling semi support, Dan Heng is likely to be free, and I'm pretty ambivalent on Cyrene in general

glossy latch
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Leaks for WuWa 3.0: ||New area appears to be desert-themed, we might in fact end up getting the desert area from the concept arts||

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||I really hope we get some characters with darker skin though||

summer hornet
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Lmfao

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||apparently Blackbeard tried to disguise himself as Mikiya in order to marry Fujino||

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||Shiki dispelled the disguise and Fujino... Used her Mystic Eyes on him||

old galleon
slow raft
silver osprey
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Obi-Wan ID for Faust when

summer hornet
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Random question for the limbus devotees

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How many egoshards do y'all have rn? Total or for any single character

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Out of sheer curiosity

idle grove
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yoooo

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my free daily scout

silver osprey
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Get ready for awful dad jokes

slow raft
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you are asking the wrong questions however, as the important part is that i have 1444 egoshard crates

idle grove
silver osprey
slow raft
slow raft
runic ether
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100~ per sinner or so or nearing 400 for everyone

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with some exceptions

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cus i've been uptying ego and ids

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*uptie 4

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everyone but gregor, ryoshu, meursault, and otis are at or above 300 shards for me

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oh lol

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and i forgot

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hong lu is at 0 rn

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but

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lord hong lu is at uptie 4 and so is tears of the tarnished blood

slow raft
honest pawn
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me

turbid olive
honest pawn
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why are there no tm revolution amv's for tm opera o

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sigh

rapid bough
old galleon
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people on flare marie are either min turning it (12 w/bazett, 13 without) or taking upwards of 30-40 turns with no in-between

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makes me wonder how they'll deal with ||kami's bathwater bathtime quest|| next

slow raft
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oh right flare marie

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is there any time limit on that?

old galleon
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technically no, but it's still good to have done since there is small story stuff in there and one of the rewards interacts with the grand system

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if you wanted to clear it multiple times tho, then yes, there is a time limit for that

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after a certain amount of time it won't be replayable

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there are no rewards for doing it more than once, so at that point it's an exercise in testing out different comps for the different waves

slow raft
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k

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not too concerned with story stuff since i havenmt even toached oc yet

rapid bough
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FINALLY JESUS CHRIST

old galleon
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congrats on finally acquiring tits

slow raft
copper steppe
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also flare marie done

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i just threw shit on the wall until it worked

runic ether
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can mods even ban other mods

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no seems like we cant but i can remove from post which is another level of funny actually

old galleon
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i don't think people of equivalent power in the system can ban another

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not that posting the name of le tit lady is bannable anyway

runic ether
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of course not

copper steppe
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one day discord will have a update that puts the mod team on a deathmatch and the winner gets to ban the other

runic ether
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is there a reason this doesnt just auto gifts me the win

copper steppe
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if you have nitro you kill your opponent irl

wispy goblet
rapid bough
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bnuuy

astral drift
maiden veldt
astral drift
rigid pilot
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I forgot you existed

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I'm gonna burn you for dodging me for years

versed pawn
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Funny pgr has a dmc collab right now

silver osprey
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Uma Sang

toxic cloud
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Holy

long tree
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new summer tiamat uses their np to inject false memories of herself as a childhood friend/lover into master
she is mother, childhood friend, sister and lover now
nyaruhodo i dont think there is enough Sigmund freud literature in the world to cover thus

slow raft
# silver osprey

Honestly, wei was already dripped tf out, he did not need the heishou fit

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Still, more heishous is good for my lord

silver osprey
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Wonder what's the bolus effect for him

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Maybe gains poise or poise count

rapid bough
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phew, AL anni banner cleared in 50 pulls

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finally the game has mercy on my cubes

slow raft
rapid bough
slow raft
runic ether
runic ether
glossy latch
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Well I got a fine enough ATK% disc for Yanagi now

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Only 2 AP rolls but oh well

slow raft
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Chat, what should my next e2 be?

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personally im leaning towards vulpisfoglia and entelechia

mental acorn
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entelechia gaminge

silver osprey
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Ingrid

summer hornet
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Yu

runic ether
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weedy lmao

slow raft
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already e2 i fear

runic ether
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uhhh ik skadi bc someone draws her and another arknight girl kissing all the time so her i guess

slow raft
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i already have the superior skadi at e2

honest pawn
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I don't care if it's not a valid answer

slow raft
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marcille was actually useful on a recent stage(i just replaced her with logos tho lmao)

maiden veldt
silver osprey
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Marcille is my goat

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But I mostly only use her S2, so...

silver osprey
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Without gladiia and the other AHs normal one is kinda ass tho

summer hornet
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'twas peak

mental acorn
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me when I WILL BURN THE CLOUDS AWAYYYYYYY

summer hornet
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My silly brain thought they had added a cutscene from the anime at first lol

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It was extremely cool

wispy goblet
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grumble
I just lost a Victoria's Housecleaning charge
game claimed the reward even though I was full
why is there a cap anyway

slow raft
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Didnt think it possible that you were furtjer behind in arknights story than me lmao

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Congrats tho, even if those stages are probably not as hard as they once felt

silver osprey
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I had to bring Nightingale everywhere if I wanted to beat Talulah back then

summer hornet
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Radiant Nearl did indeed solo the JT8-2 boss

slow raft
summer hornet
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That said, I am currently looking up guides for JT8-3

silver osprey
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It was like, skadi + thorns + nightingale + another healer I think

mental acorn
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logos s3 delete the fireballs gg clearly

silver osprey
slow raft
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I see you wish to kill me with projectiles? Nice try

summer hornet
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He ain't in my house

slow raft
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Logos is in my house becuase i love his mother nyaruhodo

mental acorn
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word

slow raft
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Hes also a fantastic unit fwiw

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I love both of his domaim expansions

mental acorn
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I still think it's crazy how we had cockroach 2: explode harder and lowtiergos on the same banner

maiden veldt
mental acorn
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and he even got a necrosis module right out the gate like goddamn the designers read the story and saw that he was him

slow raft
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Finally a cor caster thats better than eyja

silver osprey
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And then proceeded to become the best medic in the game

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Until a girl that's not even a medic stole her place apparently

mental acorn
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damn aegirs stealing people's jobs

slow raft
runic ether
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give it to sinclair

slow raft
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clearly sinclair can only get a you id

silver osprey
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Release date doko Hahaa

glossy latch
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Is this also a gacha?

slow raft
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yea

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sadly it copies alot of hoyoisms

spare mist
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Everybody wants to make Genshin 2.0 after it succeeded

silver osprey
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Tbf this is less Genshin than other games afaik

chrome remnant
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The Seaborn seem interesting is there anywhere I can read about them that isn't an awful wiki

slow raft
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the game

mental acorn
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the wiki is probably going to be your best bet outside of sinking a whole lot of time into the game
you could also use the story reader if you care to go through every aegir event and oprec and module story Hahaa

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...and then I guess you'd also have to go through the main story plot for all the necessary background

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yeah just wiki it nukgar

slow raft
slow raft
chrome remnant
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The wiki I looked at seemed to be laid out horribly

slow raft
chrome remnant
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No, fandom

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I fear I see my mistake

slow raft
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fandom is abandoned im p sure

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the anime doesnt focus on the aegir side of the story
so if you dont want to play the game, your best bet would be wiki, reading the relevant events in a story reader or pray that theres a good lore youtuber
or you trust fanfic writers(or maybe theres someone who compiled everything on a reddit or tumblr post or smth)

copper steppe
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only its husk (and copious amount of ads) remains

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thank god a lot of fandoms migrated from that shithole

chrome remnant
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Thanks

slow raft
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if you want a decent story reader or the events that are relevant to the seaborn i can help you out

chrome remnant
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I appreciate it, I'll let you know

slow raft
long tree
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FUCK HOT SAMURAI LADY IS HERE ALREADY

runic ether
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gacha luck

glossy latch
slow raft
idle grove
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another free daily roll banger

turbid olive
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🙁

mortal iron
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How many more hours till narita brian

long tree
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Like 22hr 38min

mortal iron
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Nyoooo

slow raft
runic ether
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1200 is a lot

slow raft
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Youd think so, but there are players with login streaks more than double that

old galleon
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i think this was from a couple days ago, forgot to post most likely bc it was on flare marie drop

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but also, 1200 really is a lot

honest pawn
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1508 myself

slow raft
old galleon
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i can practically hear the riff from bleed by meshuggah in the background of this one

runic ether
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the multitude truly tightens its hold with this one

slow raft
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Ive seen a bunch of 99 clashes before but i never reached gigabrain levels like this

wispy goblet
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made it to nine stars

summer hornet
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:dab:

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…is what I would say, if it wasn’t for Misty doubling this roll earlier

runic ether
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did you do it in a ten pull too

glossy latch
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Of course you did

runic ether
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(i built pity)

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i was at 65/75

glossy latch
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Oh that's alright then

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Also I checked the genshin Leaks and

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||What do you mean the traveler has a spaceship that's currently on the moon??||

runic ether
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what specifically?

runic ether
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5.7's quest tells us outright

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not the location

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but it does tell us that

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specifically

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||the plot around 5.7 is about how the traveler finds the key to their sleep pod||

glossy latch
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... what

runic ether
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||and that the abyss twin had no idea we were even awake until they found a discrepency in the timeline||

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||where they find their sibling out and about when the twin was supposed to be asleep and unable to wake up after finding a woman with the traveler's key||

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||the reason the abyss twin chickened out from fighting for khaenriah was a result of this bc they wanted to ensure our safety and then suddenly, we were out and about just fine||

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||the whole quest is about the traveler causing this issue in the first place||

glossy latch
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This feels very out of left field.

runic ether
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i wont lie, ||i do like that they came in a spaceship as a part of the plot point.||

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||it does help make the travelers feel more alien to teyvat||

glossy latch
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I guess but like

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||They were never shown to be particularly adept at using technology||

runic ether
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tbf, ||teyvat hasnt really given them a lot to work with. there is also a level of disconnect that can happen with technological gaps.||

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||ie its very unlikely ppl would know how tech from the 1600s or 1700s nowdays would properly function due to how modern our world tech is now||

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||the travelers can pilot a spaceship but something like a fontaine automaton would feel basic/alien to them bc its too primitive to what they are used to||

glossy latch
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Hmmm

runic ether
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not to mention, ||a good part of the tech in teyvat is powered by its elemental system too.||

glossy latch
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Idk maybe

runic ether
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of which ||they had very little knowledge of until arriving in teyvat||

glossy latch
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||Feels way out of place given the opening cutscene though||

runic ether
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||phlogiston is pure pyro element. theorized arkhe/pnuema is just an application of hydro and such||

runic ether
glossy latch
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||And means Teyvat is just literally a planet in a larger universe than an entirely separate world I guess?||

runic ether
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||the 2 were running away to their spaceship since again, the abyss twin had no fucking idea their twin was even awake and decided to dip khaenriah bc of the twin randomly showing up||

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||the traveler should have been in their pod at the ship on the moon. but instead, they were suddenly in teyvat||

runic ether
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||though it has been deliberately closed off/semi-hidden away it feels much like how earth and the moon were in hi3rd||

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||alice had to approve skirk's entry and i imagine she approved surtalogi's exit? but its clear that there are group(s) involved in keeping teyvat away from the wider universe||

glossy latch
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Wack

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Idk how I feel about this

runic ether
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||it feels like the key to continuing genshin once the teyvat chapter comes to a close||

glossy latch
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I assumed that'd be the goal but

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||Idk if that really works for Genshin tbh?||

runic ether
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||we'll see how they handle it. i think a multiversal story can work out if they do it right||

glossy latch
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Thing is, ||HSR is already doing that and idk if they can make it work with all the Genshin-isms justified by Teyvats quirks||

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But we'll see

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I mean I'd have to get back into Genshin in the first place

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Also wait ||If Teyvat is just a planet, what does that make the Abyss?||

summer hornet
runic ether
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||and the teyvat we see is the way to hold the real teyvat sealed||

summer hornet
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That said, I already had her weapon lying around from the time I tried to roll on Kazuha's weapon banner

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So she's fully loaded in that regard

honest pawn
wispy goblet
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Zenless Zone Zero Version 2.2 "Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night" Special Program Announcement
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I think that's August 22 at 7:30 AM EDT

runic ether
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oh shit i actually hit alice's wengine

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lol

wispy goblet
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I need to know the reruns before I commit to pulling for Yanagi

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Also
Got my first nine star
posted it earlier

maiden veldt
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supposedly it's this but take it with a grain of salt.

wispy goblet
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ye I saw the leaks
but we'll have official word this Friday
also apparently fresh leaks imply Xiao Zhao is in the pipeline

runic ether
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supposedly yeah

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we will supposedly see this friday as well iirc

toxic cloud
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Seed Trigger

astral drift
copper steppe
slow raft
wispy goblet
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【Collaboration Confirmed】
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▶ Play video
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reveal in just forty minutes

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just kidding they have us on a LIVE loading screen until top of the hour

rapid bough
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REverse has some real baddies... jill, clair, ada

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what will nikke do

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i'm assuming we'll get fairly tame collab units since RE isn't really a gooner franchise but who knows

wispy goblet
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RE being shown on stream now

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Nikke collab may be upcoming

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HERE IT IS

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it's ||Jill||

summer hornet
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That was not nearly as hard as I thought it'd be

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It wasn't easy, but it was definitely more of an account flex lol

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Particularly in the CEs department; I'd forgotten I had some of those 50% battery event CEs lying around

old galleon
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aqua marie (the next one) is also easy if you don't care strictly about kills

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if you care about kills, it's the second hardest one

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hardest one should be grand marie (the third one) at her highest difficulty; lowest difficulty should be manageable

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stellar marie is just a rehash of flare marie with some more gimmicks and a different party rotation system, but it looks manageable

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thing about aqua marie is that unlike with flare marie where most of the waves have one enemy, most of the waves instead have at least 6 enemies, some up to 18

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if you don't care about kills, then you can really just stall out the turn limit per wave

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but remember that enemy kills give you badges that let you use the special mystic code during that gauntlet

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so caring about kills to be able to use those skills makes it quite a bit harder

summer hornet
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Ooh, so you have to balance survival and DPS

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Because there is kind of a limited amount of supports for AOE looping

old galleon
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that and some of the waves even stagger

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so like they'll start with 3 enemies and add a few per, with a cap of 6 on the field at a time

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the rider wave in particular has a nasty gimmick where some of them have multiple guts stacks so if youw ant to max kill, you need to bring shit that can do dots

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but there are three waves (not counting bathwater lady) that are single target, so those can be easily one turned

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good news for us is that aqua marie wont' drop until sometime after id

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so there's still a lot of time

summer hornet
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Oh yeah that's a solid 6+ months away

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I'll set that to the side and focus on other stuff for now

old galleon
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ye, you finished flare marie so gauntlet stuff isn't a huge priority

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but i'm not surprised you had enough options

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you've been playing for like 7 years now, you would have stacked up a lot of servants and ces for it (even ones that didn't seem immediately useful)

summer hornet
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There was a random gacha ce that gave 60% np damage if used by a berserker

old galleon
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worse bg but ye, a decent alternative

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kinda surprised you didn't use arc in wave 1

summer hornet
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BB Summer is immune to burn lol

old galleon
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you're not wrong but the burn doesn't matter if you kill them fast enough : ^)

summer hornet
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Also true XD

old galleon
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i'm gonna go screenshot the ces i used; the team screens i posted were from the end of the fight

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will be a few mins

summer hornet
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Honestly I just didn't think of her first- and I really needed her on wave 4 in the end; my first attempt used Tametomo and Zhang Jue instead of Merlin and Arc

old galleon
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understandable

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i know you didn't go for min turns but that dumbass saber wave really benefits from one turning it

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if you were gonna try to min turn anything, it should be that one

summer hornet
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Yeah, in retrospect I could've shifted Oberon to that wave instead

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But Arc's defense down plus NP2 damage was enough to get me a 2-turn kill anyways

old galleon
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ye, as long as it worked

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there's what i used with the ces this time

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in wave 4, pretender elly is probably better than helena if the batteries and whatnot work out but i managed

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notable gacha servant np levels

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wave 2: aesc is np2 and gil is np3

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wave 3: scathach is np3

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wave 4: ishtar is np3 and tlaloc is np5

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wave 5: eresh is np5

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wave 6: carmilla is np5

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wave 7: siegfried is np2

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wave 9: kuku and enkidu are both np2

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wave 10: kama is np4

summer hornet
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Ofc you used Habetrot lol; that do be a double caster node on wave 1

old galleon
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anything i didn't mention is either a welfare, np1, or didn't use their np at all

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or okki who is np2 but would be just as fine at np1 here

summer hornet
old galleon
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yeah that's why i brought an aoe servant to a one enemy fight : ^)

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wanted to see if she could pull it off with anti-trait and she did

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so i'm satisfied

old galleon
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chunks the two casters quite well

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would have been even better with a higher np drake but mine's only np1 so the damage was a tad sketchy

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the original goal was to use s ibuki there too but

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np1 wasn't enough to kill the avenger

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but since drake and habetrot combined dealt with the casters i just put s jalter there instead

slow raft
long tree
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Muramasan't

neon ore
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One day I'll get her good ending.

silver osprey
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Mid unique skill and then you see her halloween alt's skill

mortal iron
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how long till narita brian

silver osprey
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1 hour

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And a half

mortal iron
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gotcha

digital marlin
glossy latch
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Finally got Hysilens nyaruhodo

digital marlin
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I finally got the perfect crit piece

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sadly its on the one piece i probably will never need it on

glossy latch
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On the what 334

slow raft
long tree
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finally

slow raft
summer hornet
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(this is funny now and I feel kinda bad for thinking so)

silver osprey
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Aaaand gl for whoever wants Brian

idle grove
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I did not get brian

mental acorn
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(she will be overshadowed by red getting an alter)

summer hornet
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D'Arvit she IS a solid candidate for an alter, huh

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At least at the end of this long and winding road of character development

mental acorn
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if they do another siracusa I think it pretty much has to be her but I also don't really think they'll do another siracusa

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nuovo volsinii and the beast lords' story is pretty solidly wrapped imo

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but I would still like a red alter that'd be cool

summer hornet
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I just want a proper dub for Crownslayer sadthumbsup

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Feels like she, W and Platinum are varying levels of narrative punching bags lol

mental acorn
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at least w got her w in the end Hahaa

old galleon
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boo

slow raft
silver osprey
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Oh there's Umapyoi Densetsu in with the VAs singing in english now

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Neat

runic ether
runic ether
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i finished a run of mirror dungeon and limbus immediately goes on maintenance??

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what timing

honest pawn
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there

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is no

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fucking way

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I HAVE PULLED 4 TEIO

neon ore
astral drift
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My jp acc almost got filtered by aqua Marie

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Had to use command seal

old galleon
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you should definitely have options to make aqua marie not that bad

astral drift
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I used mhxxa lol

wispy goblet
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snuck in my solo raid runs before bed (I will not be able to do them before reset tomorrow)

silver osprey
silver osprey
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AK x Ave Mujica collab is in early September

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  • [Arknights × BanG Dream! Ave Mujica] Collab Side Story event scheduled early September for CN

The light of twin moons streamed in through the castle's floor-to-ceiling windows, scattering across the hall, luring the dolls to dreamland.
Their worries vanished, their wishes fulfilled.
They are here, forgotten how to wake up, lost in a sweet dream.
The dolls' next masquerade ball, when will it begin?

manic jayBOT
silver osprey
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  • Ending a Grand Overture Retrospect scheduled mid-September for CN
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  • Rebuilding Mandate, new limited-time gamemode scheduled late September for CN
astral drift
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wappii

slow raft
summer hornet
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Or am I crazy

slow raft
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p sure we knew this was happening at some point and are only now getting the details

mental acorn
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suffering!

old galleon
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neetron doing her best in the u olga era

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(tbf she actually matches up really well in this fight specifically)

silver osprey
old galleon
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finished that with about 14 hours to spare

silver osprey
slow raft
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Shirou will see Saber perform superhuman feats, think to himself “man, a girl shouldn’t be doing that”, try to step in and help her, get disemboweled, wake up a day later and go “well at least it’s Sunday so I don’t have to go to school” and proceed to cook breakfast for five.

QRT: vmohv
currently reading the fate/stay night visual novel & it’s already hilariously apparent why people dislike the adaptations so much because they all completely fail to capture how absurd & weird shirou’s inner thoughts are to the average person.

old galleon
#

cleaned up the 2 exo weapons so those are done now

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iirc i have all exo weapons in water, wind, light, and dark

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in fire i'm missing the bow and i'm missing both earth weapons

old galleon
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as for the wonders, fire is stuck at 10, earth is unacquired

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water, wind, light, and dark are all 15

#

i really wish a bunch of these recurring events were just permanent

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no reason exo, babyl, proving grounds, rise of the beasts can't all be permanent content

rigid pilot
#

Mother Hysilens and Kafka got me the first ever full clear of end game in HSR 🥹

copper steppe
#

11 stars because fuck this game

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i don’t have a dot team

glossy latch
#

Debating sinking a single roll into the banner roll to get lucky

runic ether
#

i wouldnt know dot

glossy latch
#

Did not get lucky pensivecowboybread

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Maybe Ill dump a few more rolls to at least hopefully get another Sampo lightcone dupe

runic ether
#

still got it in moc tho supports are busted. and so is phainon. this was a clear where cerydra would have made a massive difference

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therta took me like 1 cycle? phainon took the other 6

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bc i had to use huohuo

glossy latch
#

Not enough damage to one-cycle?

runic ether
#

nope

glossy latch
#

Damn

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Tbh I just did it in two runs

runic ether
#

jiaoqiu would have done it but bronya dies

glossy latch
#

First one got 20 cycles, second withgout anyone downed

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Which apparently you can just do

runic ether
#

yeah just like genshin

glossy latch
#

Oh wait

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I shouldnt dump more pulls

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I have Sampos lightcone maxed out

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Fuck it, Black Swan is gonna get the f2p one then and Hysilens the Sampo one

summer hornet
#

Seele can do it too

glossy latch
#

Although I have to check who GNSW is on

#

Ok I think this works

#

Just need to farm planar relics for Hysilens

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And get BS some more EHR

rigid pilot
#

I don't see how Black Swan improves the DoT team.

#

Maybe I just don't have her but who does she replace?

summer hornet
#

She's moreso extra damage

#

She has a strong DoT (and defense down), but that's about it

glossy latch
#

Plus she applies DEF down which means you can use tutorial mission on Kafka to get more detonates

#

You can use a regular support but its usually a little weaker and it uses up ... well a support

#

Whereas BS has no other team youd want to use her in

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Usually youll just run Hysilens/Kafka/Black Swan/Gallagher

runic ether
#

huohuo is miles and away the better sustain for dot especially triple

#

also bs nowdays only pulls ahead if she is e1

#

robin/tribbie are just much stronger than what she provides

glossy latch
#

Huohuo suffers from also using SP

#

So youve got 4 SP consumers at that point lmao

#

3.5 I suppose

glossy latch
runic ether
#

robin pulls even iirc at e0 but the added turn to kafka and hysilens will often pull ahead

#

bs is not bad but shes at best horizontal investment into dot nowdays and any amount of eidolons/lightcones on the supports will push black swan down hard

glossy latch
#

It depends on how many supports you have I suppose, because BS frees you up from using any other support

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But I wouldnt pull for her that if you dont already have 2 supports anyway

runic ether
#

yeah the logic is also that u would rather pull a support > bs anyways

glossy latch
#

Mmh

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But if you have BS, shes worth using

rigid pilot
#

I see. I already feel like I have supports to spare. Tribbie, Sunday, Bronya, Ruan Mei. I probably don't go for Black Swan unless she's added to the shop lol.

glossy latch
#

We can still not mute Robins song, can we?

#

Literally the main reason I didnt pull for Robin lmao

rigid pilot
#

I don't think so

glossy latch
#

Damn

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Can't believe WuWa got that feature before HSR did

old galleon
#

decent enough lu woh run

#

just testing boogeyman a bit now that i have an actually good dark mh for it

mortal iron
#

str gogeta really felt like the lebron for a year when he dropped

long tree
#

Mother daughter and fatty

mortal iron
#

i got my buttblasted at this

#

i got 2 wins at most

long tree
#

Super freak takes the lead
Rice shower puts in work if she gets overtaken
Ougiri vibes idk she one one of the races

idle grove
#

WHAT

mortal iron
#

i thought i pinged you a bit ago on it

#

yeah it was revealed like a few weeks ago

idle grove
#

oh fr?

#

i have bad memory lmao

neon ore
#

1st try

neon ore
#

My dumbass completely misunderstood the Taurus cup. I thought B and below included B+ as well angery

slow raft
wispy goblet
#

man I wish the stream was on Saturday
I don't got work Saturday so I can wake up early, watch, then go back to sleep

rapid bough
#

it's been so long since the last wind co-op that i forgot/didn't even realize the featured nikke was epinel lol

#

fire is rapi, iron is anis, water is helm

#

i forget who reps electric

#

...is it exia? now i'm realizing i don't know electric either

runic ether
summer hornet
#

Funky

#

But cool

maiden veldt
rapid bough
#

rerun next patch trust

silver osprey
#

Another banger

#

HG never misses

mortal iron
silver osprey
#

Rooster Heishou Sinclair (Rupture Burn Poise)

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Horse Heishou Yi Sang (Rupture Tremor Poise)

slow raft
#

Just throwing keywords at the wall and hoping it sticks

#

I did call rooster sinclair, but that one was rather obvious

silver osprey
#

No we know what they do

#

Sinclair at least has rupture and burn

#

Bc of the vfx

slow raft
#

I am aware that thats what the ids do

silver osprey
#

Yi sang has rupture and tremor for the same reason, and all Heishous have poise, so...

slow raft
silver osprey
#

Ahh

#

Well, potential woman and Kong Lu do like multiple status on enemies

slow raft
#

Also "all heishou have poise" is wrong

#

Only the si have it

silver osprey
#

Oh yeah ig Outis and Ryoshu don't

#

Faust has it with her skill 3

slow raft
#

Oh skill 3-2 has it ig

silver osprey
#

I'm used to seeing Ryoshu use thoracalgia

#

Yeah

#

Well I wouldn't mind if Sinclair and Yi Sang don't

slow raft
#

I figure they wont

silver osprey
#

If they focus on burn and tremor then I can have a reason to use Kong Lu and Lei Sault together

silver osprey
late canopy
#

First set of the day

long tree
#

Samesies

rapid bough
wispy goblet
#

yeah watched it live

#

'boutta go to work so I probably can't talk about it a lot rn

rapid bough
#

redemption code OBOLSQUAD

wispy goblet
#

argh

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I have to commit to a Yanagi pull before I get to playtest Seed or Orphie

rapid bough
#

livestream otherwise was mostly stuff we already knew from leaks though i guess if you care about side events they provided a lot of details there too

#

apparently they alluded to sanby buffs a la ellen

#

which is notable and probably why she's not rerunning yet if so

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but it wasn't explicitly stated, just some phrasing that's very reminiscent of when they said a buff to ellen was planned

slow raft
#

jesus christ lord of hongyuan hong lu is absurd

silver osprey
#

Yep

#

Silly guy

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Especially with the coin gift

slow raft
#

yeah i saw the rusty commemorative coin in the shop and my eyes turned into dollar signs

#

also if im counting correctly

#

you can just run all the poise gifts in rupture now

wispy goblet
slow raft
silver osprey
#

Is that like

#

Floor 2

slow raft
#

3

#

i wanted the full stop one for the unique gifts but like

#

i cant really pass up lunar memory

#

i already have peice of relationship too icant

slow raft
runic ether
#

another six billion events for zzz

runic ether
slow raft
#

genuinely just killed fairy gentleman with a "single" hong lu skill 3

#

this is so funny

#

im getting delusions of grandeur

runic ether
#

hes genuinely so absurd

slow raft
late canopy
#

I finished all my runs

idle grove
late canopy
#

75% winrate in graded league with front runners

#

Was hoping for better but getting 75% with front runners already more than good enough

wispy goblet
#

I can probably get at least 230 pulls by the end of 2.2
That's nowhere near enough for five targets....

slow raft
silver osprey
#

This is why I make Rodion be the first Heishou for his S3 nyaruhodo

slow raft
#

wdym

silver osprey
#

She kills the fodder for him to redirect his S3 at the main guy

#

Like with the time reaper

slow raft
#

oh you can influence which heishou he picks?

silver osprey
#

Ye

slow raft
#

first in deployment order?

silver osprey
#

By order of deployment

#

Mhm

slow raft
#

time to switch it to fuast then

silver osprey
#

I think rn I'm going Rodion then Gregor then Faust

#

Gregor bc of the bolus effect giving Kong Lu +1 rupture count when he attacks

runic ether
#

there is also a default order to them iirc if it needs to pick from outside the 2nd

versed pawn
#

how did they make it not be able to have it CM just in the background

#

id really would love to not watch multiple loading screens and click skip on every race just to be done

#

when it could realistically just run on background

#

witht he same outcome

late canopy
#

Updates that come later

versed pawn
#

define later on a 4 years old game plas

#

because that could mean 2 years for all i know

late canopy
#

I don't remember but it was at least two years later

#

When they add batch matchmaking for all five races at once

#

And allow for skip, similar to how you can do it in career

versed pawn
#

also i hate those specials missions that want u to run specific races

#

that no character has so u u have specifically find a character that doesnt happen to have that race fall on his goal race day on top so u dont accidently just spent 30 tp for nothing

#

would be neat if they could maybe point u towards a character that would be suited for the missions

mortal iron
#

I guess genshin just ate shit

#

Star rail got sam
ZZZ is getting Billy
Genshin just got paimon

mortal iron
#

I eat shit and lucky if I get 2 wins

late canopy
#

I've played this game for too long

mortal iron
#

I dont have the sauce

#

This is probably an event that might cause people to quit

#

Besides the kitasan incident

slow raft
late canopy
#

I got 0 Kita in 400 pulls and not even that is gonna stop me

mortal iron
#

Yeah i thought she was enough

#

Turns out that was just hubris

#

And evil nature

late canopy
#

Ya having the blue sparks helps a lot too

mortal iron
#

Yeah thats not happening

late canopy
#

I usually try to go for 7 blues instead of the coveted 9

#

Because 2 + 2 of your own and a 3 from borrow

mortal iron
#

Thing is I dont ...have a medium spark

#

That isnt like wit

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And i burned through my last borrow last night with the server backseating, making this

#

(This was one of the cursed runs of all time, constant afflictions)

late canopy
#

Ya just needa kill the horse and try again

versed pawn
#

dont worry i cant even win 4 with like a 1200(850/1000 oguri with 4 gold skills and medium s and 2 debuffers on the side

mortal iron
#

it feels pretty shitty seeing everyone else doing way better

wispy goblet
#

@rapid bough let me know after you watch the preview stream

rapid bough
#

i mean i skipped through it just for stuff i cared about

#

just the reruns and promo code really lol

#

didn't need gameplay or event previews since the former was leaked and the latter i just don't care about til the events run

wispy goblet
#

Did you track any of the story stuff?

rapid bough
#

i watched the brief cinematic at the start of the stream yeah

wispy goblet
#

||guess we're finally gonna hear Carole Arna for the first time||

#

We are still locked into ||the Marian prediction||

rapid bough
#

the ||carole stuff teaser at the end was interesting but i couldn't get past more blatant isolde death flags since now we're getting flashbacks and magus going "we worked together before, never thought we'd do so again". i will never recover from isolde getting pompeyed||

wispy goblet
#

AAnby and Nicole are the rate up's in first half
Anton and Lucy are second half
As if I needed more reasons I need to pull this patch cycle....

wispy goblet
runic ether
glossy latch
#

Lost the 50/50 on Alices WEngine

#

😔

#

Got Fusion compiler which is like

#

Ok I guess?

runic ether
#

its 75/25

#

damn

glossy latch
#

Oh

#

🙃

#

Welp

#

I guess its a minor upgrade to Yanagi?

#

Its a bit awkward tho cuz like

#

My Yanagi is already pretty strong

#

And its not a big upgrade

glossy latch
#

Oh well

#

Surely theyll release a character I am interested in enough to want to pull their signature, right?

slow raft
runic ether
slow raft
maiden veldt
runic ether
#

didnt expect it to be lighter. but im glad its him.

rapid bough
#

this one image is going to fuel the belle/lighter shippers for months

glossy latch
#

Hmmm

#

I wonder if swapping Miyabi to Fusion Compiler is ever the play

#

(Im on Steel Cushion rn)

maiden veldt
#

yay it works

runic ether
glossy latch
#

Looking at it, proooobably not

#

My rolls are good but I still barely get to 86.6% crit rate with cushion

icy flicker
neon ore
#

God I love cute lil moments like these.
I love seeing my two faves interact
||Specially considering that Tachyon is Scarlet's real life dad||

mortal iron
#

I like that shes just allowed to make drugs

#

Like she's supposed to be in like high school

long tree
#

tracen acadmey just kinda is

#

it doesn't really exist as like a traditional school that works off age

#

cause umas are elves

maiden veldt
#

Seed and Orphie in ZZZ's ChaPanda collab

slow raft
slow raft
pastel bear
#

oh shit you can use his skill 3 with the rusty coin

#

I didn't even think about that

silver osprey
#

It's really silly

slow raft
mortal iron
#

and they just hang out

runic ether
turbid olive
#

lmao, I'm just lookin' elsewhere while someone's talking. kek

wispy goblet
#

okay I have put together my hierarchy of needs
I'm currently at 140-ish pulls
should I pull for Yanagi before the banner ends

Trigger (slot fill, finish M6 Nicole, waifu)
Yanagi (waifu)
Trigger W-Engine (high value, obtain at least one Nicole W-Engine)
Seed (interesting team building applications, finish M6 Nicole)
Evelyn W-Engine (high value, obtain second copy of Lucy W-Engine)
Orphie (interesting team building applications)
Seed W-Engine (alleged application for Zhu Yuan?)```
runic ether
#

if you are into eve that much, i'd probably be skipping yanagi here

digital marlin
#

What teams do you have built/are you planning to build?

wispy goblet
#

I have

  • Full Yunkui
  • Mostly Ice
  • Alice and assorted friends
  • Zhu Yuan and Nicole

My primary intention with Trigger is to slot her into the Zhu Yuan team

summer hornet
#

I want to vote for HSR x UBW but

#

Man

long tree
summer hornet
#

I'd have to dig deep to find someone who had no complaints about it

rapid bough
#

these polls are always popularity-based anyway so HSR prolly gonna win

#

can't speak to any of the collabs besides nikke but if any genuinely surpass it then they'd be in the running for one of the best collab events for any gacha ever since imo that's what the stellar blade x nikke one was

#

the bar is pretty low given lots of collabs are phoned in but they cooked big time for stellar blade (surprise since it's their IP)

old galleon
#

what are the options?

rapid bough
#

they're in the image from the tweet meta posted

old galleon
#

nikke prob ain't winning that

rapid bough
#

def not

old galleon
#

the stellar blade collab was great but

#

popularity contest

rapid bough
#

all a matter of how many votes your fanbase can mobilize, hence popularity contest

#

funny enough they got another nomination elsewhere

summer hornet
#

okay THAT one HSR has a chance to win

rapid bough
#

honestly no idea why eve is here, her VA is quite good but like... she didn't get a lot of opportunity to show her range in the stellar blade collab lol

#

for my part i'd vote for hugo here but i hear phainon was both goated and also has popularity going for him

summer hornet
#

"See that white halo surrounding it? That's the corona, a blazing crown of light."
"But why can't we see it most of the time?"
"Because the brightest lights cast the deepest shadows. Only when darkness falls can the crown truly shine."

English Voice:
Phainon — Joshua Waters
Aglaea — Morgan Lauré
Castorice — Melody Muze
Mydei — Gabriel ...

▶ Play video
#

He really hit the range

#

Finally getting to go distances with Phainon's breakdown

runic ether
#

phainon has it in the bag. mauvika really wasnt all that tbh. hugo did amazing of course but idt zzz can beat out phainon

summer hornet
#

I'll still vote Nikke for the crossover, though

digital marlin
#

This is probably one of the most painful choices you had to make

maiden veldt
#

floor 80 now.

summer hornet
#

Unrelated

#

@runic ether is this Arlecchino to you

slow raft
#

Least subtle pm foreshadowing

#

Also don does the ichigo pose in the trailer

#

I apologize miss quixote, i was unfamiliar with your game

pastel bear
#

I guess T Corp Don was subtle foreshadowing

runic ether
#

asura indeed

runic ether
summer hornet
#

Oh I didn't know that

#

That's super sweet

runic ether
#

2nd ether support

#

manato is def in 2nd half is my guess

rapid bough
#

broke 5k for the first time letsfuckinggo (also holy shit sharkry)

runic ether
#

ppl are guessing she's the rupture piece missing

rapid bough
#

guess i'm pulling

wispy goblet
#

they got me again

rapid bough
#

she's even got booty shorts like yixuan

#

it was meant to be

wispy goblet
#

that would further support the idea that Manato is Rupture too

runic ether
#

gonna be a pretty fould banner set for anyone who wants manato

rapid bough
#

man i'm really struggling with whether to get alice or trigger

wispy goblet
#

what I'm wondering is
Is Manato the S for 2.3 part II
or is he an A that releases with Lucia so you have someone she can support if you don't have Yixuan

rapid bough
#

i feel like i'd use trigger in exactly one spot (mono-electric comp) which i don't even really have complete? i guess yuzu/yanagi/trigger would work

#

then again i'd use alice in exactly one spot (physical weak) so

#

THEN AGAIN if they're buffing sanby then trigger is probably just always gonna be her BIS stunner

#

so trigger may scale better in the future

#

fuck idk

wispy goblet
#

okay but
touch fluffy tail

rapid bough
#

okay but
stalker wife

wispy goblet
#

dang I don'

#

dang I don't got anyone good for Typhon

#

where's Zeus when you need it

rapid bough
#

anyone good in stun windows is good for typhon since you get so much free daze against it

#

i've seen people clapping it with eve despite it being fire resistant lol

wispy goblet
#

hmm
I could use the Zhu Yuan-Nicole team
but I'd want to pair them with Ju Fufu for now
and that leaves an opening in my Yunkui team

#

I guess I could try hitting the 20k with Yixuan-Pan-Lucy
although both Pan and Lucy are underdeveloped
surely post-modern monk mommy will carry me

#

speak of the devil...

runic ether
#

finally

#

wait then hes a rank??

#

nope

#

wait?

#

yes he is?

rapid bough
#

unless...?

#

is his drip marketing animated

runic ether
#

nope

rapid bough
#

i diagnose you with A rank

runic ether
#

at least he'll be on lucia's banner

wispy goblet
#

makes sense
now you'll get a rupture to go alongside Lucia
who is surely a rupture support

runic ether
#

yeah literally lol

#

also damn rupture has been around less time than the rememberance path in hsr and already has an a rank/4 star

copper steppe
#

what the fuck is a low rarity character

rapid bough
#

definitely could've broken 40k here but fucked up my rotation at the end

#

holy shit i ended up with 111k flat

#

wild coincidence lol

wispy goblet
#

"first" try

rapid bough
#

pretty easy round of DA overall though

#

typhon is legitimately such free real estate

#

getting 75% free daze every ~30 sec enables such insane stun window abuse

wispy goblet
#

actual first try

#

man typhon is kicking my ass

summer hornet
#

Contingency Contract #3
Battleplan Extinguished Sins
アークナイツ危機契約#3 イベント

Creator:苦力怕到此一游
orginal video/source from:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1PXNKe8EQB/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=c36844fe04aa2a71f1b152d767c61812

#Arknights
#アークナイツ
#明日方舟
#명일방주
#Arknights​ #...

▶ Play video
wispy goblet
#

apparently he was kicking my ass less than expected

#

here's my mostly-baseless prediction
Lucia's buffs will revolve around some form of defense reduction, be it PEN or DEF shred
her unique gimmick will be that she allows Rupture agents to benefit from those buffs, basically causing the enemies to have negative defense in the damage formula
but her all-purpose defense reduction mechanics will still be useful for other DPS of all kinds

wispy goblet
#

alleged ZZZ leaks
||second half of 2.3 is Ice Rupture||

rapid bough
#

lucia's 1200 sheer force buff gonna hit like crack

wispy goblet
#

it will be very funny if she just gives a phat stack of Sheer Force and nothing else

#

if she's Spook Shack, I imagine she'd be designed to work with Alice in some capacity

#

that's part of why I'm predicting def reduction buffs

#

also people predicting the ||2.3 second half agent is Yidhara, mentioned in Lucia's drip||

rapid bough
#

all units in the same faction don't necessarily need to have synergy with each other

#

zhu yuan and qingyi have basically no synergy with jane or seth for instance

#

spook shack could easily be the same

#

yuzu and alice have synergy, komano and lucia have synergy, very limited overlap

wispy goblet
rapid bough
#

wouldn't be the first time a unit in a faction just works best with units outside that faction

#

lighter's prolly the best example of that

#

honestly feels like they haven't really focused on faction synergy, their real focus is that the two new banners in a patch are almost always complementary

#

and those banners have almost always been the same faction, but ofc not the entire faction

#

so it's pretty to easy to end up with two halves of a faction that have synergy among each half but not with the other half

astral drift
#

It's time

rapid bough
# rapid bough honestly feels like they haven't really focused on faction synergy, their real f...

looking at the banner history, yeah this has been the trend since 1.5

1.0 - ellen and zhu yuan (different factions, no synergy)
1.1 - qingyi and jane (same faction, no synergy, but qingyi is meant for zhu yuan from the previous patch)
1.2 - caesar and burnice (same faction, limited synergy but caesar is generically good)
1.3 - yanagi and lighter (different factions, no synergy)
1.4 - miyabi and harumasa (same faction, no synergy, but yanagi and lighter from the previous patch work very well with miyabi)

from here on out it's all double faction, and almost always full synergy with one exception

1.5 - astra and eve
1.6 - sanby and trigger
1.7 - vivian and hugo (the exception, same faction but no synergy)
2.0 - yixuan and ju fufu
2.1 - yuzu and alice

and it's worth noting that faction synergy in a lot of cases is only limited to a small subset of characters (zhu yuan+qingyi and jane+seth for instance, harumasa left out to dry in HSO6, sons of calydon are a mess and operate as generic boosts for other squads and not really themselves, etc)

wispy goblet
#

Saw the alleged leak
uh oh
she's hot

rapid bough
#

zzz 2.3 ||uhhh new character?||

#

is that an ||OCTOPUS THIREN||

wispy goblet
#

people noticing all the Rupture-related characters have the same bodysuit booty shorts

wispy goblet
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i saw the name and alleged class leak

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design tho

wispy goblet
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they coming for my wallet

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||she's definitely what lucia's original nun design was reworked into, she even has the hammer||

wispy goblet
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please let the reruns be easy skips for me

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i bet sanby will be one

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haru is due for one but rerunning the two old electric attack agents simultaneously feels dirty

wispy goblet
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looks like some kit leaks are out too

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Can't read them from the stream on my phone tho

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can someone grab them smile

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lucia's hakushin page is missing her core passive which is a bummer since that's the most important part of her kit

wispy goblet
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okay summary
||has HP scaling||
||has Sheer Force and Max HP buffs; bonus passive triggers with a Rupture or Stun and gives Crit Damage||
||Ult does damage and has a healing field||

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||immensely targeted buffs for Yixuan||

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but her EX special gives a big "penetration" buff

idk if that's flat pen, or if it's the chinese word for sheer force

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i assume the latter

wispy goblet
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According to the site a guy I'm watching stream is using
they think it's sheer force

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Max HP buffs are interesting
I wonder if all Ruptures are going to be designed to scale off Max HP

runic ether
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honestly really not digging her design. wish she was freakier for being an octopus thiren

wispy goblet
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hmm
Pull priority for Seed and Orphie dropping....

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an s rank support automatically kills orphie/seed tbh

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oh it got nuked lmao rip

runic ether
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rip

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presumably due to unverified leak but i think it's just ripped off a site like hakushin so idk

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reddit's image preview sucks so much fucking ass

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trying to zoom in just zooms reddit and not the image

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drives me goddamn insane

wispy goblet
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That's how they get you to use new reddit

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i am using new reddit

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that's exactly the problem

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anyway yeah

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One guy's comment says Manato's kit is super short

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lucia does aftershock damage off-field and gives big sheer force + dmg% + cdmg% buffs

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her ult looks WACK

runic ether
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shes gonna be insane rupture support

wispy goblet
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max HP buffs is crazy targeted

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unless all Ruptures scale on max HP

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i'm not seeing max HP buffs in this kit

wispy goblet
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It's in her core passive

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ah so it is

runic ether
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hp buffer before genshin is crazy

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it's a 5% buff which doesn't seem particularly significant

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but i guess it's there so yay?

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honestly feels like shes kind of weak tbh

wispy goblet
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She has way less generic applicability compared to Astra or Yuzuha

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i feel like this kit's focus on aftershocks and scaling her own damage with her health might be setting her up to be a high damage support on top of the rupture buffs

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but idk

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oh i was expecting the manato crashout but i was not expecting the nun lucia fans to also be joining in the chorus

wispy goblet
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aftershock may be an... afterthought

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seems like that'll be a must-get wengine

runic ether
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lol

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yep that engine seems strong but eh

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i mean i think basically every agent that isn't a main on-fielder is just gonna have aftershock in their kits now

runic ether
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probably

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might not be super impactful but it's a good system and the devs have said they want you to feel like you're actually using a squad

runic ether
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they do want their agents to be on field a lot to

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yeah

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feel like a team proper

wispy goblet
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looks like Yidhari has pay health and self-healing mechanics

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lucia's m1 adds a 15% sheer damage buff, m2 is another 10% max HP buff

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at least this means i can safely save till lucia to get manato and mindscapes on him

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Also she has an alternative way to cash out at max decibels

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Doesn't look like she can double ult like Yixuan

runic ether
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that doesnt read octopi to me at all

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yeah super not feeling yidhari

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shame

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cus i work with an octopi almost daily and i love them

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i can overlook ice if the kit seems fitting/unique hopefully the anims would save her? hard skip for me

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at least atm

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Manato is Soldier 11

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This is a joke, but only because it has truth to it

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His kit appears to be
hit them with basic attacks
and you can also hit them with special attacks and ult

runic ether
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his kit is incomplete tbh we'll see if he has more

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his core passive def needs a rework tho

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cant even use lucia with him alone would need to slot in a fire or rupture which makes him awk

astral drift
maiden veldt
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or just fell into the average hoyoism on their designs

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real shame she is so generic for zzz

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i like her hat and her hair but the rest is just lame for an octopus thiren

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16-4 today!

digital marlin
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Costume does feel like an alternate version of Yixuans costume

silver osprey
late canopy
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so i'm thinking lucia is autopull and it's likely her wengine will be one without a good f2p alternative so it's worth getting too

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she's more niche than astra/yuzu since she's obviously targeted toward rupture agents

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but the fact she's that niche means she's likely to not be powercrept any time soon too lol

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so now i'm sitting here trying to plan my pulls

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i'm really struggling with whether i want to actually pull trigger because i'm not sure where i'd actually use her, she'd be ok in mono-shock but i feel like mono-shock is suboptimal to begin with since yanagi is better in disorder teams anyway

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i've honestly half a mind to pull for seed because she apparently enables a bunch of 2 attacker comps which is interesting

wispy goblet
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Yeah that's Seed's big gimmick

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She buffs her partner attacker on EX, and has a mechanic through which attackers buff her when they use EX
And if both buffs are active, both characters get a second buff on top

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So you want to run double attack and switch between them

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She's clearly designed to achieve max value with Orphie's Aftershock EX Special mechanics
But there may be interesting alternatives

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"and they were roommates"

wispy goblet
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I may end up skipping Seed
The Attackers I have/want are Zhu Yuan, Evelyn, and Harumasa
Zhu Yuan and Evelyn's damage is explicitly tied to the stun window
And I'm not sure how good the Seed-Haru combo is

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yeah i'm having a rough time placing most current or upcoming characters in a team that would be a noticeable improvement over an existing one i have

alice - would go to mono-phys, but only becomes a strict upgrade over jane/yuzu/vivi with dupes
trigger - would go to mono-electric and any future team with sanby, but TBD on how good those even are relative to disorder options and pre-sanby buffs
seed - enables 2 attacker comps, but my main attacker right now is eve who already has her BIS team
orphie - would be for seed but i don't really want her

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lucia is the only upcoming character who's a clear and immediate improvement over what i already have (replacing pan in yixuan's team)

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and along the way i want eve's wengine

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but deciding between alice, seed, or trigger+wengine is giving me a big hmmmmst

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interesting change to lucia's wengine, gets energy regen but the RES shred was nearly halved

wispy goblet
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I'm thinking about potential Orphie teams
She's less demanding
Just needs a support or stunner for her bonus passive
And an onfielder for her to support

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Trigger would slot into my Zhu Yuan-Nicole pair
Keeps Ju Fufu 100% free for Yixuan

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Or maybe I could do it the other way around too

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trigger for zhu/nicole and fufu for yixuan is definitely a better distribution

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trigger doesn't get her bonus ability in yixuan's team so her daze buildup suffers a fair bit

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and if you get her sig, it has no benefit for yixuan since DEF shred is useless for rupture

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anyway i think i talked myself into trigger (that's what i was planning anyway but i've been struggling with it ever since alice released)

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she may not be an immediate benefit, but i'm assuming i will want to pull for sanby the next time she reruns (presumably with buffs)

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and trigger will 100% slot into sanby's team, which would be a brand new team i want access to

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so trigger+wengine is the best future investment for me i think

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kind of awkward since seed/orphie also work really well with sanby but idt they're as necessary as trigger

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i have no clue who i would put Trigger with in my case but im still pulling regardless. dont think i will pull for SAnby so chances are i would probably have to wait for a new character i like to pull for them

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yeah trigger was always top of my list as a waifu pull anyway

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though i ended up really liking alice so passing up on her kinda hurts

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Speaking of

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Man the 2.3 S-rank designs are just meh

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The only part that could be interesting about Yidarha, the tails, feel tacked on

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yeah yidarhi's design is very whatever

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i think lucia's is fine, though her animations carry it atm

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she's really out there looking like a mage/ethereal summoner

runic ether
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yeah lucia looks and has good anims

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yidhari's issue to me is that she could be so much cooler for her concept

runic ether
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seed is weird

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good but weird