Gacha Chat

[slow raft]

this faust was very moe

[runic ether]

||yeah i have w corp outis so i kinda figured but damn it was def pretty brutal to see||

||honestly tho again i wasnt expecting don to have been so... like i assumed okay sure canto 7 will involve vampires and such but the ids repping their cantos are the villains/antags. heathcliff has erkling. ish has ahab etc. once i pieced that i thought oh sure then manager don is the main antag of canto 7. but not that don was actually her. im really curious how they handle it since it seems that part of don's deal was something to do with dante.||

[slow raft]

my lips are sealed

[runic ether]

||all in all tho i hope don retains her current sense of justice even as a bloodfiend. or at least, learns to allow herself to be that goofball even as a bloodfiend. even if she was way more serious and imposing.||

||and on top of that, ik she wouldnt do so, or at least i hope she wouldnt, but it'd be nice to see her pulling the bloodfiend form as a sort of additional power boost when we need it in the future without the whole make a bunch of mindless bloodbags.||

[summer hornet]

Were you trying to say "one of the weirdest casts in FGO"?

[copper steppe]

what in the scp is this convo

so many spoiler tags lol

[old galleon]

spoiler conversation police : ^)

[slow raft]

because we want to discuss something thats spoiler territory?

what else would we use them for

[honest pawn]

nah they're using it to talk about BOYS

[digital marlin]

Yeah it was typing on phone and the touchscreen went wild

[slow raft]

https://x.com/them_failure/status/1949241675311886357

BlueJay (@them_failure)

X · Jul 26, 2025, 10:53 PM

[old galleon]

praise be the coin node

[astral drift]

https://x.com/sgr_sm/status/1949516908493148544/photo/1

すぐる (@sgr_sm)

#fgo 鳥取 日本海新聞
闇コヤ

X · Jul 27, 2025, 5:07 PM

[old galleon]

iirc she was bond 7 before it dropped, and i do 3 runs of it every day, so i'll probably get her to bond 15 over time

koyanskaya of shrimp

[astral drift]

her death doesnt proc often enough for me

[old galleon]

there are multiple guaranteed setups for it tho

the one i'm using is edison and 2x koyan

[slow raft]

I just muramasa it since i dont have am caster gems

[old galleon]

there should also be one involving atlas mystic code but i haven't tried it out yet

[old galleon]

this is valid

i wanted to do it with salter but at only level 80 she can't min turn without bg

[slow raft]

Oh i also cant min turn without bg

But i dont have more than 5 qp ces so it dont really matter

[old galleon]

fair enough

[astral drift]

https://x.com/torikai18/status/1949492049688076773

とり (@torikai18)

🥳

X · Jul 27, 2025, 3:28 PM

i never get tired looking at this costume

[old galleon]

blessed

[slow raft]

https://x.com/Takiki2828/status/1949514752109240420

Takiki@C106 土 西2 あｰ68ab (@Takiki2828)

Bourbon (Age 8), a Gundam enthusiast

#umamusume

X · Jul 27, 2025, 4:58 PM

[paper spoke]

[copper steppe]

its true, my old mate eric told me

it happened to him

[wispy goblet]

Contemplating dropping a few pulls on the Miyabi wengine banner
To pull for Piper's wengine

[rapid bough]

that sounds like a very silly decision

[wispy goblet]

hey
Piper's engine is super rate up right now

[rapid bough]

you're fundamentally cooked if you pull on any banner for an A rank wengine

especially for one of the non-support A rank characters

aren't you in savings mode anyway

why would you use pulls hunting a DPS A rank wengine lol

[digital marlin]

potential eve or trigger rerun pal keep strong

[rapid bough]

if trigger doesn't rerun i'll be flabbergasted

i'm pretty sure sanby will too, i just think it's funny that's the case

[wispy goblet]

I'm expecting a Trigger and SAnby rerun too

Probably gonna spring for Trigger
Contemplating pulling for Seed

[rapid bough]

so yeah don't pull for fucking piper's wengine lol

[wispy goblet]

one ten pull
in and out

[rapid bough]

if you don't get trigger or seed next patch because you're 10 pulls short, it'll be on your head

also i'm like 99% sure piper's wengine isn't even that much better than an equal rank battle pass wengine

it wouldn't even be that much of an improvement

pulling for wengines already sucks, but pulling for wengines with no cosmetic benefit and very little gameplay benefit is truly cursed

[old galleon]

finally caught up on getting some of my servants to 10/10/10

this latest batch was to finish off kuku, tlaloc, morgan, and s ibuki

[digital marlin]

Noice

[old galleon]

all of them were missing at least one or two skills maxed so i'm glad that's done

[digital marlin]

starting to run low on QP myself for leveling servants so I'm probably going to start reserving skill maxing to new servants i was looking forward to or anything that helps with a 3 turn farming for farming

[runic ether]

it is p insane at mm5

but yeah

wouldnt go for it at all

[rapid bough]

well that's why i said equal rank

i am still fairly sure rank 5 lip gloss isn't that much worse than rank 5 roaring ride

[runic ether]

as the bp engine i think its better for a lot of characters

[rapid bough]

obviously rank 5 roaring ride will blow rank 1 lip gloss out of the water but that's not what he's gonna be operating with without all-inning lol

[runic ether]

but roaring ride will be better than a lot of others

only aim for them if u are going for an s rank wengine too

[wispy goblet]

we could pull for Miyabi's engine

I have enough to guarantee a 75/25

[runic ether]

then you arent getting seed

most likely

[rapid bough]

horizontal investment>

[runic ether]

without spending that is

[rapid bough]

at least while you've got an incomplete roster

[runic ether]

which okay like seed is looking to be solid but

i'd at least consider grabbing trigger

[rapid bough]

also if there's any character in the game more reliant on their wengine to reach their ceiling than miyabi, it's trigger

i'd sooner get trigger's wengine than miyabi's tbh but that might be a hot take

[runic ether]

u arent wrong

[rapid bough]

i've said it before but trigger has the most broken wengine in the game imo

and the devs know it because they so clearly made its ability only work on trigger lol

[wispy goblet]

can't believe this man wants me to learn the game and improve my skills instead of wastefully pulling

[runic ether]

honestly a big reason despite orphie being really good for 11 that im gonna likely skip her, is that it'd require trigger + m0p1 at minimum and likely orphie m0p1 too

just cus despite liking trigger, it is asking a lot to get her p1 too

[rapid bough]

yeah that's why i'm not a huge fan of the arrangement of next patch's banners

all the characters are so interconnected, any team formed from the main DPSes needs at least one if not two of the other characters on banner lol

trigger is the only one who can be put in a bunch of different teams without sanby/orphie/seed, especially with her wengine

[wispy goblet]

Anton probably gonna be one of the rate-up A's on Seed's banner

[rapid bough]

the only A rank DPS with any relevance if not min-maxed to an adderall degree is piper

[runic ether]

orphie will bring relevance to billy without needing to be cracked out of your mind

more than neko cus he was already quite a lot stronger

[rapid bough]

neko buff waiting room

one day my m4 neko will see use

[runic ether]

get orphie for herr

[rapid bough]

maybe by then i'll have her m6

[runic ether]

its worse than billy sure

but

u can at least do well without needing to be cracked out of your mind

[rapid bough]

tbh i was of the opinion that seed was better for neko since she uses EX a lot and the energy regen when partnered would go nuts

[wispy goblet]

can Neko be played burst
apparently the leaks say that the energy regen is when Seed is on-field and deals damage
not just passive increased regen

[rapid bough]

neko is best when bursting yes

[wispy goblet]

oh
okay
that's fine then

[rapid bough]

she's not an awful on-fielder (such as she is, she's still weaker than most others but that's just her being weak in general)

but a ton of her buffs that are conditionally active when behind enemies and shit

become permanently active while the target is stunned

[runic ether]

compelling evidence...

(leaks aside)

[astral drift]

$1100 morgan keyboard

[old galleon]

people will look at this and say "wife"

[copper steppe]

truly wife

[turbid olive]

Keeping your treasures in a bathroom ain't recommended lol:

[maiden veldt]

hmm

[wispy goblet]

Yan took me for the full $60 ride

[rapid bough]

BASED

(and scampilled)

as much as i like the skin i think i'm gonna skip it

i'm coping that her future popularity poll costume will be as good or better, but it's also free so even if it's slightly worse i'll live

[astral drift]

who got the 90++ farming comps

[rapid bough]

this does remind me though that i was considering getting the yan and pepper skins

it's harder for me to justify getting skins for nikkes that don't see use though

god nikke please give me unlimited lobby screens

[silver osprey]

Curren is out

[wispy goblet]

cashing out a bunch of purchases before they close out

[rapid bough]

centibro

https://tenor.com/oIvN.gif

[old galleon]

aesc/s castoria/support is probably the go-to for it, but the sheet doesn't actually have comps for this event lol

i'd just stick to 90+ which apparently is just 2 waves (3 zerks, 1 moon cancer)

[glossy latch]

HSR 3.5 story leaks: ||Wtf do you mean Lygus is Zandar One||

[runic ether]

i saw that

||idk how credible it is but i feel like it is just too early for zandar?||

[glossy latch]

Maybe, maybe not but like

||This feels really odd given Lygus' position and everything||

[runic ether]

||is it? i think a bit due to how much hes seeming to have been rupert but either way.||

||im def not taking leakers across hoyo games too seriously for a while||

||they have been on a terrible roll lately across the hoyo games||

[glossy latch]

Broadly yes

But story leaks have been rather reliable

[runic ether]

yeah fair

tho i still would be a bit hesitant

story spoilers a lot of time feel like guesses

[glossy latch]

Fair

Tbh I need to finally get back into HSRs story first

WuWa is the only one Im fairly up to date on (and even then I have to actually play this patch's story)

Im not even sure on ZZZs story rn

[slow raft]

At some point i should probably catch up on hsr too

[runic ether]

this last chapter was good

for zzz

hsr was really good

[slow raft]

But amphoreus hasnt exactly been all that riveting for me

[runic ether]

tho i do feel if u didnt love phainon

or even liked him much

its kind of not gonna get better

[slow raft]

Oh yeah im entirely meh on phainon lol

[runic ether]

maybe this latest patch changes your mind? i liked him already prior but this one def sold him to me more

[slow raft]

Well see

[runic ether]

if it doesnt change its not gonna change idt cus amphoreus is basically phainon's story

[slow raft]

I need to catch up on limbus first anyways and im def gonna prio that

[runic ether]

oh for sure

i've only heard hype about canto 8

so im looking forward to that too

[slow raft]

Ive played the fiest part and it felt like an improvement over canto 7

[glossy latch]

My issue with ZZZs story is that it just feels kinda ... all over the place?

[slow raft]

Time will tell if it tops canto 6

Zzz is weird to me

Id probably like it more if it wasnt an overarching narrative

[runic ether]

i agree

though if they can really get the overarching story going while having good chapters like 2.1 i dont mind

[slow raft]

Like, when thinking back on everything i dislike its mostly just stuff that happens because there needs to be some sort of throughline

[glossy latch]

Its partially that

But also partially that the self-contained stuff doesnt really have enough time to be self-contained?

Since they keep pushing new factions every patch

[slow raft]

Well that and the hugo chapter was a bit hampered by the fact that i dont really like hugo as a character

[runic ether]

we're sticking with obol squad next patch cycle and they came back into play these past few chapters

[slow raft]

https://x.com/DARINGDECISION/status/1949599250431480291

bbw olga (@DARINGDECISION)

We put Dongrang in a room full of estrogen for 7 months - the outcome will shock you:

X · Jul 27, 2025, 10:34 PM

[glossy latch]

Ill see with ZZZ

HSR I was just kinda burned by the Xianzhou chapters

But I think you can skip those (?)

So maybe Ill jump ahead to Amphoreus

[slow raft]

Harold is sadly only the second best named hana, even if her choice of weapon rocks

[runic ether]

lmao at this point yeah the xianzhou story is def odd one out. so little happens to the plot

[glossy latch]

WuWa is the only one whose story Ive been mostly keeping up, and a large part of that is that the current villain in the story is actually really enjoyable

So even when the main cast changes, the villain carries it

[runic ether]

oh you know

thats what has kinda kept zzz a bit weird

[slow raft]

Yianzhou wardance is like

[runic ether]

we really need an overarching villain if they want an overarching plot

so even if we are just having fun on the beach with our friends this patch, we know the big threat

[slow raft]

50 character introductions, an annoying child, hype moments and a sprinkle of aura

[runic ether]

the exaltist overseer could be this if they play it right

[slow raft]

Technically the lady who was a secretary or whatever could be an overarching villain but aside from standing in the shadows to aurafarm and talking about her batman gambits she doesnt really do anything so

[runic ether]

yeah

i was just about to bring up sara

she's supposedly showing up in-game model next patch

[rapid bough]

this isn't the problem

[glossy latch]

She also just shows up too little

[rapid bough]

the problem is that the exaltists thus far are super fucking lame

[glossy latch]

Cristoforo also mostly just aurafarms, but he is actually there to aurafarm

[slow raft]

Long distance aura farming

[runic ether]

the exaltists would be a lot more interesting if they had an actual face to the faction that can properly intimidate the protags

which

||if they do kill isolde, the aura would probably be improved||

[rapid bough]

i actually don't think that's the worst issue with the exaltists

it's one of them, sure, but not what makes it hard for me to be invested in them

[runic ether]

they are def too fragmented is my issue with them

[slow raft]

Its still so funny that they just dropped the name exaltists out of nowhere in the season 1 epilouge and it wasnt even treated as a reveal or anything

[rapid bough]

my biggest problem with them is that they are everywhere and seemingly all-knowing to the point of all our victories against them being apparently meaningless

[glossy latch]

As an example, spoiler for the 2.4 story of WuWa: ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODNy5fGos0||

[rapid bough]

literally everything we have done to stop their schemes has been met with something between "just according to keikaku" and "meh, on to the next plan"

[runic ether]

i liked that. established group in-game and such without expo dumping us about who they are as if the exaltists are just a fact of life.

[rapid bough]

it feels like we have yet to score any meaningful victory over them

[slow raft]

Yeah the batman gambits are a bit tiresome

[glossy latch]

Even that can work honestly

[runic ether]

yeah idm that as long as they are more of a present/entertaining faction

if they got more on-screen wins

and/or a central figure getting these wins

[slow raft]

Atleast like a "they disrupted out plans, but well just have to adjust" would be nice

[runic ether]

or that yeah

should have a mix of it

[rapid bough]

i honestly don't think it can

[glossy latch]

The overarching villains of Trails also have that tendency, but they work because their overarching plan so far is mostly left vague, and their individual plans are what matter, and those have personal stakes where stopping them is still a victory for the protagonists

Granted the villains of Trails are uh

[rapid bough]

it can work occasionally since all good stories need points where protags are at a disadvantage or even lose

[glossy latch]

A bit complicated to explain

[rapid bough]

but as a permanent state? why should i care about anything we're doing when nothing seems to mean anything

[glossy latch]

Mostly the fact that theyre only sort of villains and also how the organisation works is confusing

[runic ether]

only sort of villains is how i feel they are going to take the exaltists

[glossy latch]

You can have the individual stories matter while the overarching plan continues, but its not the easiest thing to w rite

Realistically what the Exaltists would need for it to work

[runic ether]

giving hints at "there are different groups within the exaltists" is 100% set up for them to be fragmented

[rapid bough]

it's certainly not what ZZZ is doing

[glossy latch]

Is a lot more individuality

[runic ether]

ehh

individuality would work

like how the fatui in genshin are mostly handled

where each harbinger is doing their own thing

for the most part

[slow raft]

You know, in limbus compan(a sniper kills me before i can finish the sentence)

[runic ether]

overarching plan for them

[glossy latch]

So that defeating them and stopping their plans is satisfying, while the overarching plan is more left in the air

[runic ether]

but the are doing their own shit

[glossy latch]

I mean the Fatui are loosely based on Trails villains Im pretty sure

[runic ether]

i think that could work actually well for them

having sara's group

the overseer's group

carole's group (cus i know that bitch is with them)

[rapid bough]

sara and the overseer were already working together tho

[runic ether]

doesnt mean she doesnt has her own goals

[slow raft]

We just need a few more villains with charisma tbh

[glossy latch]

Like at this point I dont think the inspiration is confirmed but

[rapid bough]

sure wish we ever got a hint toward LITERALLY ANYTHING about what those might be

[glossy latch]

The Fatui and Ouroboros are so similar it has to be intentional

[runic ether]

conclusion of 2.x story line. yixuan will beat the overseer's ass proper and as the overseer turns to sara, she says "got your tech and plans bitch bye"

[glossy latch]

Down to the fact that the harbingers most of the time are just fucking around and doing their own thing

[runic ether]

right

thats part of what i mean on the exaltists needing a proper face

and an actual good like

[rapid bough]

i'm sorry this would be straight ass for the same reason i said earlier

[runic ether]

that doesnt mean it wont (probably) happen and u know it

[slow raft]

I hate to tell you this but this is just an extremely common trope in chinese stories

[rapid bough]

sure but what i'm saying is that doesn't help shit

we're in the same place lol

it'd literally be more interesting if they worked together and the overseer getting stopped meaningfully sets sara or someone else back

[glossy latch]

Oh I'm aware, but it's specifically the organisational structure, and the matter of who gets to just fuck around and do their own thing and who doesn't

[runic ether]

and thats why i think that they need a proper face/group leader shown

[rapid bough]

like ultimately i think we're saying the same thing but coming at it from different directions

[runic ether]

someone who comes in and wrangles in sara and the overseer

[slow raft]

Yea thats what im talking about

[glossy latch]

... have the Stellaron Hunters shown back up in HSR btw?

[runic ether]

and asks what the fuck is going on and why things arent progressing at the pace they need to be

[runic ether]

yesnt

[rapid bough]

the reason i hate the saturday morning cartoon villain schtick is because, honestly, the best way to really hint at or get to the villain's motivations is to make them lose or back them into a corner or SOMETHING that makes them need to show their true colors

[slow raft]

Wdym, the main character is always there

[glossy latch]

... did Trails get it from that? Or is it like a fairly recent thing (in which case it could be Trails inspiring that trope, because Trails is apparently pretty big in china)

[rapid bough]

as-is, the exaltists have been entirely content operating from the shadows and any time they're stopped they just move on to some other area or faction or leader without issue

we never learn anything about what the fuck they're actually doing beyond it being bad enough to stop

[runic ether]

and knowing hoyo

[rapid bough]

because why would we ever need to know, the villains don't give a shit about what we're doing

[runic ether]

the exaltists are most likely in the right

or their goal is

going about it the "wrong way" or whatnot

[slow raft]

Furthest back ive encountered it is in 2002 of the top of my head, idk if trails is older than that

[glossy latch]

Dont believe so

[slow raft]

Mightve been 2001 actually, the translation i read was grom 2002

[runic ether]

i do think that they def need to get the exaltists either a w or shown meaningful consequences to recent losses

[glossy latch]

Trails should be 2004 or so, and Ouroboros only really was a big part of the second game

Im still gonna choose to believe they were inspired by Trails

[rapid bough]

another issue that follows is that the longer this goes on, the worse it backs the story into a corner where the only reasonable ways to progress are

1. protags lose big time in some event, villains grandstand about their victory which finally gives us a glimpse of what they're after
2. villains lose big time, villains share too much in panic or anger or whatever

[slow raft]

Probably paralell ecolution tbh

[runic ether]

i do appreciate that they have won off the sacrifices recently and shit but they def need a bigger either set back or a big aura win

[glossy latch]

Especially since HSR definitely was (not story-wise but gameplay-wise)

[rapid bough]

the problem is that (1) feels utterly unearned the longer the game strings us along with meaningless victories

(2) might be fine but imo needs to happen soon before i lose all investment in these chucklefucks

[runic ether]

i still feel like yixuan has massive death flags

that'd be a good for the 1st one

[rapid bough]

surely they don't have the balls to kill what i'd consider one of their flagship characters atp

[runic ether]

i would say they surely wouldnt

but

[slow raft]

Honestly dont feel like they would grandstand after what theyve shown so far im ngl

[runic ether]

i also wasnt sure they would make a character like manato with massive man tits and big muscles as playable

[rapid bough]

i think they totally would, the exaltists thus far have been cartoonishly evil and are exactly the type to grandstand in a moment of apparent victory

[runic ether]

the overseer gloated over losing to yixuan bc they stole her memories

they would grandstand over a win

[slow raft]

Yea but in my mimd the overseer is already small fry fodder

[runic ether]

honestly i just want the proxies to enter a true depression arc by finding out carole is the leader of the exaltists

[rapid bough]

everyone we've faced so far has been small fry fodder

which is kinda the issue

[runic ether]

and she gives them a true explanation of the goals

[slow raft]

Surely bringer was a big deal

[rapid bough]

i have to imagine the fact they haven't actually seen sara yet isn't a coincidence

they're gonna see her and go "carole???" guaranteed

[runic ether]

yep

thats what im thinking

[runic ether]

i'd also like to see her crack her current facade if she does see the proxies up close and personal too

[slow raft]

Idk why shed have a different name though but i could see it ig

[rapid bough]

2.2 leak spoilers ||if isolde does end up getting pompey'd then i don't give a fuck what the story tries, i will never forgive sara or any exaltist||

[slow raft]

Feels like something they want to build up a bit more tho

[runic ether]

carole arna is considered a war criminal

and her name is forever in a database of ppl to never be brought up again

well not war crimina

*criminal

but her name is basically soft-banned

due to her involvement in hollow zero and the fall of the old capital

[slow raft]

Tbf i was gonna say the exaltists dont really seem like the type to care about war crimes but i dont recall if any of they ever call her by name

[runic ether]

nope

the only ones who have are yixuan (knew of her due to similar tech), the mayor (massively sus) and the proxies

[rapid bough]

thus far the most interesting plot thread is that as far as i can tell, 2.0 ||the mayor was working with sara to get our airship blown the fuck up||

[runic ether]

even bringer doesnt say her name

[runic ether]

||she was a good friend||

[rapid bough]

||it's a known fact that the mayor is sus as fuck but that was a major escalation of intrigue||

[runic ether]

nice

[slow raft]

||A mayor escalation even||

[runic ether]

||i wouldnt be surprised if sara is actually carole arna in disguise to the exaltists overall too even though she leads them||

[rapid bough]

[slow raft]

Sorry, ovvens not typing anymore so i had to do his job for a sec

[glossy latch]

Yeah Im afraid I dont super care for ZZZ story lmao

[rapid bough]

the parts i've liked the most have been the isolated character stories

the overarching stuff, so far, i can take or leave

[slow raft]

Same

[runic ether]

yeah individual writing has been good to great

[rapid bough]

this was why 2.1 was a great return to form and 2.0 kinda fell flat to me

[runic ether]

ik u dont like hugo but he was very well written overall and the big shame was that he had to share that last bit of story with vivian's part

[slow raft]

Like i said, a bunch of only slightly connected self contained stories in this setting wouldve been great

[runic ether]

even tho it should have been stretched out fully to hugo

[rapid bough]

2.1 wove the overarching story into yuzuha, alice, komano, etc. story really well

2.0 just bashed you over the head with exaltists being comically evil

[glossy latch]

Yeah tbh I dont know why ZZZ is aiming for an overarching story anyway

[slow raft]

Like hariyama san center of the world

[runic ether]

yeah it def felt personal enough to the 3 + the proxies with a bit of a hint of what the world around them was doing

[glossy latch]

Given the whole movie/cinema themeing surely a bunch of self-contained stories make more sense?

[runic ether]

hoyo cant help themselves

they cooked pretty hard with honkai impact 3rd

[slow raft]

Makers inserting unneeded sex scnese but its overarching narrative

[rapid bough]

so i haven't played either honkai game or genshin

[runic ether]

even though a big part of that success was due to the fact that kiana was the protagonist

[rapid bough]

but my understanding is that ZZZ is much smaller in scope compared to them, with everything taking place in one city, and meaingful history going back basically a maximum of 10 or so years lol

[runic ether]

she is not at all like the traveler or the trailblazer or even belle/wise (even though they are a bit close)

hi3rd gets to be focused on her

and she gets to fail. a lot.

[rapid bough]

and that can actually help an overarching story since, as we've pointed out before, one of ZZZ's huge advantages is that it can constantly bring in basically any character, even one from several patches ago or game release, back and make them relevant when it wants to

since everything is so closely intertwined already

[runic ether]

its not super surprising that since hi3rd part 2 the story has dropped in quality since they moved on from kiana after concluding her story

[runic ether]

for sure

its not nearly as grandiose as genshin or hsr

or hi3rd even (though it is closer)

[rapid bough]

do it hoyo you won't no balls

[runic ether]

genshin is juggling "the will to rival a world" and "the sustainer of the world's boundaries" type of story lines

hsr is literally intergalactic in scope

zzz is about one city

a doomed city to be fair

[wispy goblet]

Imma come out and say it
||the dude doesnt sound like the mayor to me||

[glossy latch]

Ironically I'd argue HSR is not that large in scope despite being intergalactic

[runic ether]

cus even if they win they are ultimately just delaying the inevitable

i do like that about zzz and i wish they had a bit more focus on it

the world is over

theres most likely no way out?

its done

the city is the last bastion and thats that

even the moon's corrupted

[rapid bough]

||i heard it as a dead ringer to the point i immediately identified it apparently being the mayor||

[wispy goblet]

||I played that part after seeing you bring it up so I was listening out for it. Didn't sound like him to me. But also I hear things, so||

[runic ether]

this would also make the exaltist not seem as one dimensional as the only group actually giving a shit to give humanity a chance in the hollows

[runic ether]

||he def sounds like the mayor to me too||

[wispy goblet]

||me when the proxies use their super ether manipulation to fix the world||

[runic ether]

i think ||it'd be a bigger reveal if the mayor was not a villain||

[rapid bough]

agreed lol

[runic ether]

||their name is phaethon its doomed from the get go||

||they are even the children of the helios academy too. its literally so fucking over.||

[wispy goblet]

||sometimes, foreshadowing is... subversive?||

[rapid bough]

||well i wouldn't even say it's foreshadowed, it's just like... the only way the story can go and still be interesting||

[runic ether]

more or less

[rapid bough]

||if he's not a villain, it means he came out of nowhere and supercharged the proxies because... the story needed to move forward||

[runic ether]

||we know, based on the naming + vivian's vision, that the proxies are more or less doomed.||

||the question will be when||

||do remember that the hollows are tied to time and that is how they will resolve their doom but doom it shall be||

[wispy goblet]

||y'all have not watched a single shonen in your life||

[runic ether]

i have unfortunately seen too many

[rapid bough]

same

what you're really saying is "y'all have never consumed bad media in your life"

unfortunately i have

[runic ether]

same

[rapid bough]

i'm just holding out faith that's not what ZZZ is lol

[runic ether]

i doubt it ultimately

but will it be disappointing?

thats waht im hoping against

[wispy goblet]

so
what are our plot hooks for 2.3

[runic ether]

whatever happens in 2.2

[rapid bough]

we don't even know what 2.2 is lol

[wispy goblet]

The Angels of Delusion
And the buried military data?

2.2

I can't count

[runic ether]

||most likely isolde's death||

[wispy goblet]

I'm actually from the future

[runic ether]

2.2 will be obol squad

[rapid bough]

the angels of delusion def aren't a 2.2 hook

everything points to obol

[wispy goblet]

Hmm
So the buried military data?

[rapid bough]

they're ||investigating the weird obsidian manufacturing shit||

[runic ether]

most likely

[rapid bough]

shut your GODDAMN mouth

[runic ether]

||i will hope, especially with the isolde pompey situation, that we will (maybe) see real failure from obol squad?||

||since we know sara's model will be in-game, it'd be interesting if its sara that gets the dub here||

[wispy goblet]

||super ether manipulation powers trust||

[rapid bough]

||patch: introduces the rest of obol squad, they're together on screen for the first time ever
patch story: obol squad FUCKING fails||

[glossy latch]

I mean hey would fit the cinematic theme

||The military being useless in a post-apocalyptic world is spot-on||

[runic ether]

||getting outsmarted by sara for whatever reason, would be a good way to get the exaltists a dub for once||

[rapid bough]

||ok "for once" implies they've taken Ls the rest of the time which is sorta the problem i have||

[runic ether]

||fits into a theme that was in the obol squad design script where almost all of them are super done with the military themselves in some capacity or have gotten burned by the military||

[runic ether]

||they have but it hasnt mattered and thats what we agree is a problem||

[rapid bough]

||right but i'm saying giving a W to the exaltists after a bunch of meaningless losses feels super unearned||

[wispy goblet]

||if you're taking Ls but they're two Ls at an angle and joined together, that's not an L||

[runic ether]

||kinda though i do think it'd serve to make them relevant||

[rapid bough]

||sure it would, but it'd be the most unsatisfying way to do so imo||

||they've been blueballing us since the beginning with meaningless victories and then the first actually consequential confrontation we have with them is us losing? only to inevitably go back on the hamster wheel of meaningless victories for a while again? nah||

[runic ether]

||well thats hopefully where 2.3 goes in where we get the salty runback and win||

[rapid bough]

if ||meaningful loss -> meaningful victory takes ANY longer than a single patch cycle/story chapter it will feel like utter dogshit||

||and the first patch cycle with that loss will feel like dogshit for the duration||

||specifically because we've been getting endlessly teased with meaningless "just according to keikaku" bullshit this whole time btw. i'm not saying a loss is never warranted, i just think it has to come at the right time||

[runic ether]

||it must come at the cost of isolde. you know it to be true but your heart denies it. but i know it to be because hoyo would never make a woman like her playable||

/hj

but also

||as long as her boss theme is as good as pompey's i wont mind||

[rapid bough]

||any meaningful victory the exaltists score on the protags right now would feel like that old "annoying childhood friend" meme||

[runic ether]

||i dont exactly agree. in the sense that i think them having an actual, meaningful win right now, would feel right story-wise for the exaltists||

||bc they keep getting these batman wins, then it'll just never properly escalate or let them be threatening unless we get some consequences for these "wins" outside of it going forward where an actual leader figure comes in and chews them out||

[rapid bough]

||i just don't agree, and the best way to put it would be that any such win, i think, would require acknowledging everything we've done to this point has been effectively meaningless. we've just been dancing on their puppet strings, a minor inconvenience at best or playing into their plans at worst||

[wispy goblet]

Also hold up
Khaios
||Have you forgotten Marian? This is literally the Marian playbook. Isolde will be playable. Trust.||

[rapid bough]

that's some weapons grade copium right there

inject it into my veins

[wispy goblet]

||Literally corruption. It's the same play.||

[runic ether]

||we're going to see her boss form fightable in the next few betas but the copium will delay it trust||

[rapid bough]

||i think this works the opposite direction from what you're saying -- they have no reason to escalate until we score a meaningful win, and certainly not if our first meaningful confrontation results in a loss||

[wispy goblet]

Okay but actually
||Meet hot woman in chapter, get attached to her quickly. Woman is corrupted and becomes boss enemy that we have to beat. I've worked myself into a shoot.||

[rapid bough]

||the narrative to this point has very much been us on the backfoot, playing catch-up, even sometimes walking into the traps they set, and them turning even our apparent wins into losses||

[runic ether]

||right and in my mind, as we believe they are on the ropes from obol squad, they strike back and take out their colonel||

[rapid bough]

||it would feel like some real bullshit if they don't give us the experience of actually getting one over on the exaltists first before maybe getting reckless and taking an L||

[runic ether]

||i feel like the story there writes itself. doesnt mean that it'll be a total loss right then and there. but can showcase how some exaltists are significantly far above where we are rn||

[rapid bough]

||the problem here is -- i never got the impression isolde had strong ties to obol in the first place? the way it was presented in 2.1 seemed to me like she was placed in command of obol specifically to oversee their current operation in and around sailume bay||

||so "surprise got your temp commander" falls flat?||

[runic ether]

||they seem to have had a much closer rapport than implied and we'll likely see this as we go on in 2.2||

[rapid bough]

||what makes you say there's more "there" there||

[runic ether]

the drip marketing of orphie and magus

colonel isolde has a quote directed towards orphie and magus

[rapid bough]

is that the river styx one

[runic ether]

it reads to me like an invitation to them to join obol squad

[wispy goblet]

time to do some more hollow zero farming

[maiden veldt]

https://vxtwitter.com/GoodSmile_US/status/1949668422410764563

GoodSmile_US (@GoodSmile_US)

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 28, 2025, 3:09 AM

[astral drift]

[old galleon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj0NiqLYd-0

just found this ,try one of those

[slow raft]

Honestly seems kinda goated

Only time will tell if its better than molar office tho

[orchid elbow]

y'all play umamusume?

[slow raft]

A second waw has hit meursault

Perfect for leisault ig, depending om how reliably you can trigger the triple tremor burdt it might even be great

Also, new keyword pogchamp?

Idk if ive seen "coin start" before

Anyways, tremor stackd are up and will only increase

[slow raft]

Yeah a few people here are active uma players

[orchid elbow]

I'm a little sad because I was SO close to finishing a career with Haru Urara, but I didn't get 1st in the second to last race.

[silver osprey]

Triple tremor burst on S3, plus self healing and recover from stagger

Wouldn't be surprised if it's better than molar outis

[slow raft]

The self heal and recover is likely only once and the triple tremor burst requires you to use the defense skill beforehand fwiw

[silver osprey]

Tbf, having to use her defensive skill isn't that bad

[slow raft]

Its def a demerit tho, even if its not terrible

You can probably time it so you always replace a skill 1 which would be fine enough

But you cannot ignore the conditionals

[summer hornet]

https://x.com/honkaistarrail/status/1949772437882536433?t=cV-9hwh3uKn1JNHCHzgZpQ&s=19

Honkai: Star Rail (@honkaistarrail)

#HonkaiStarRail Version 3.5 "Before Their Deaths" Special Program
🕙2025/08/02(Sat) 19:30 (UTC+8)

This Special Program will feature character introductions for Hysilens and Cerydra as well as the latest information and rewards in Version 3.5. Additionally, the Version 3.6

X · Jul 28, 2025, 10:02 AM

[spare mist]

Oohhh screwlum, cant wait for him to become playable

[silver osprey]

1300 lunacy in Limbus btw

still no QoH ego for me...

[slow raft]

neat feature for new players
https://x.com/BruhGeneral/status/1949778205319069932

Zigong canto 8 real / SkyNexus (@BruhGeneral)

YOU GET TO RENT A WHOLE TEAM????

X · Jul 28, 2025, 10:25 AM

[glossy latch]

I can stop farming the wind set, hell yeah

... I need to farm Lushaka now

😔

[slow raft]

https://x.com/fgoproject/status/1949786987885658271

【公式】Fate/Grand Order (@fgoproject)

【カルデア広報局より】
★8月2日(土)･3日(日)開催の「FGO Fes. 2025」まで5日！★
新規描き下ろしサーヴァントイラスト「太公望」を公開！

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#FGO #FGO10周年

X · Jul 28, 2025, 11:00 AM

[astral drift]

Get shrimped

[astral drift]

https://youtu.be/zx4OfdqC16A?si=kmoDG3dkRXTqk6Ej

[silver osprey]

[wispy goblet]

working through more of the Nikke campaign

[summer hornet]

I can already hear the screams

[slow raft]

Limbus company spoiers for murder on the warp express
||https://youtu.be/0-NuAyx0TqI?si=BsbFPeGdW2dnCzrx||

[summer hornet]

https://x.com/dailyAglaea/status/1949572448997044315?t=rnhSh4W3T-5q9aYTbYLpSw&s=19

daily Aglaea (@dailyAglaea)

This is how i imagine #Aglaea recruiting people for the flame-chase journey if they were called the chrysos horses..

X · Jul 27, 2025, 8:47 PM

[maiden veldt]

hmm

[versed pawn]

man

its always the endgame

[timber sigil]

@rapid bough I've been seeing vids of Klukai's swimsuit skin on CN pop up in my twitter feed

holy fuck

[slow raft]

https://x.com/trilinterme/status/1949604837475193131

kawa (@trilinterme)

🏳️‍⚧️🐴 #umamusme

X · Jul 27, 2025, 10:56 PM

[rapid bough]

indeed

that'll be an autobuy for me when we get it in global

looks like it's gonna be expensive like the springfield skin tho since it has 3d lobby interactions

[slow raft]

The more i think about this, the more insane it becomes

Leisault really cant stop winning, he fr has a great ego for every slot

[summer hornet]

https://x.com/wittleredd/status/1949832220497400249

WittleRed (@wittleredd)

Trust Boop : Vulpisfoglia 🦊👈

#Arknights #アークナイツ #明日方舟 #명일방주

X · Jul 28, 2025, 2:00 PM

[wispy goblet]

ZZZ autobattler event has started

hol' up
it's pronounced be-lyon
not bell-ion?

[runic ether]

yes

[runic ether]

it does read really good for tremor as a whole but i still dont quite know if i should be running both tremor and burn units for him

or just one or the other

my gut feeling is to use the burn ids i have, + both the thumb units, and a tremor generator or 2

[wispy goblet]

ain't no way

[runic ether]

but im not sure if it can be more optimal to focus on one

or the other

[runic ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-lol-gif-20542436

[silver osprey]

I really just play burn with leisault with regret and capote

Don't think the guy needs more than this

But hey, burn also generates gluttony

[runic ether]

https://vxtwitter.com/sota_cat/status/1949626275770810573

ソータ (@sota_cat)

ガンつけ🔦さん

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 28, 2025, 12:21 AM

[slow raft]

"Gomenasai, my name is Grass Wonder-Sama."
https://vxtwitter.com/silh0uettedance/status/1949287372870369368

ren ⭐ (@silh0uettedance)

https://t.co/WP9096Pq3v

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 27, 2025, 1:55 AM

[old galleon]

finally finished lb6.2 story, took fucking forever

thankfully i do have a 90++ 3 turn so that's neat

once again vindicating my decision to grail chen gong way back when

[versed pawn]

this persons game is broken

theres not the bakushin song in the background

[slow raft]

https://x.com/essayking566/status/1949754630432227807

Essayking (@essayking566)

A good luck charm for everyone, that's what Matikanefukukitaru's gonna do today.

More Limbus x Uma Musume, this time with Fuku and the Abno 'So That No One Will Cry'. It was a lot of effort drawing each individual symbol on those sheets ;-;

#Limbus_Company #umamusume

X · Jul 28, 2025, 8:51 AM

[slow raft]

rereading some limbus company story and (5th walpurgisnacht spoiler)

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fortnite-mymomiskindahomeless-cringe-gif-7944978134360840147

[summer hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxWUTPnraIQ4WPUnm-DcARQbx_skApDXGw

[glossy latch]

Counterpoint: live service games

[slow raft]

https://x.com/Hakuramen/status/1949920659758600499

Haku🍜🔜EVO A51 (@Hakuramen)

A hunter must hunt.

#monsterhunter #MHWilds

X · Jul 28, 2025, 7:51 PM

[silver osprey]

Can't believe Bakushin beat King Halo on her first try after I spent yesterday trying to beat her with Maruzensky

[slow raft]

https://x.com/sabamori44/status/1949796370396692631

さばもり(4) (@sabamori44)

髪下ろしたらモサモサしてそう

X · Jul 28, 2025, 11:37 AM

[astral drift]

[astral drift]

gudako needs a break

[summer hornet]

Fujimaru Ritsuka needs to rest

And hopefully not like Tony Stark

[old galleon]

fgo2, where the year 1 anniversary servant is fujimaru ritsuka for some fucking reason

[summer hornet]

Fujimaru Ritsuka (Forma del Maestro)

[old galleon]

or her deranged alter

Fujimaru Ritsuka (Forma de la Creatura)

[summer hornet]

There is legitimately a non-zero chance of that

They already messed around with it in the OG Bunyan event, after all

[slow raft]

https://x.com/ChanXaki/status/1949894173957771540

Xaki🇺🇦 (@ChanXaki)

i love you genderless misanthropic divine entity

X · Jul 28, 2025, 6:06 PM

[paper spoke]

Long as you keep Gudako away from coke you should be fine /j

[glossy latch]

[astral drift]

https://x.com/fgo5language/status/1949803410447892860

fgoの他の言語版を紹介する人 (@fgo5language)

#fgo中国版 とピザハットのコラボ、ピザハット側のシルエット発表から2時間後、にイラストが発表されました！

ピザハットの召喚陣からはアルトリア、エレシュキガル、マーリンの3人が店内に召喚されました！

【冠"味"指定、この夏のグルメとバカンスを...

X · Jul 28, 2025, 12:05 PM

[summer hornet]

[old galleon]

blessed

[summer hornet]

@runic ether Ineffa or Citali? Gonna be going for Sethos constellations, but I need a 5* target to focus on lol

[runic ether]

do u have a pyro dps that likes melting?

if so citlali

ineffa is good on her own and doesn open up lunar electro

[summer hornet]

I don't think Arlecchino cares about melt tbh

[runic ether]

she does

its her best team

[summer hornet]

Oh lol

[runic ether]

arle and mauvika both care its why i asked tho

but u dont really need more than c0r0 on citlali

thrilling tales is often better

[summer hornet]

Perfecto

[astral drift]

i can't find any info about this on fgo cn or pizza hut cn's website

actually tryna go

[summer hornet]

Like I said, my goal is Sethos

Citali would just be a bonus

[runic ether]

if u do get citlali before c6 sethos, ineffa c0r0 would also be better than c1 citlali

cons on citlali only matter at c2

and its c2 >>> c1 >>>>>>>>> r1

[summer hornet]

Oof

Is that good or bad

[runic ether]

bad in a sense but good for budget

means that unless u want to hyperinvest

arlecchino c1

r1

[slow raft]

You arent on rateup.....

[runic ether]

beats out a support

by a lot

the thing about citlali is that shes more or less

fake?

she doesnt actually give that much

shes like actually balanced

the issue is that scroll of cinder city set is fucking cracked and shes a natlan character so

she can use it

and then, bc she is reacting and melting, she enables it perfectly for arle/mauvika

so if for example you get citlali to buff freeze

you're getting a lot less out of her

but if you are melting

she goes from an ok support

to the best support for melt in the game by a significant margin

the only reason shes a solid 3rd slot for skirk is that she can in theory buff furina's damage

otherwise, she is a mauvika/arle/gaming merchant

this means getting cons on her sucks

but fortunately

u dont have to

and her r1? also kind of niche

so totally unnecessary

but it does mean if u are vertically investing and u are at say

c2r1 arle/mauvika/c6r1 gaming

citlali needs c2

[summer hornet]

So a solid character made fantastic for her role by relics, gotcha

[runic ether]

yeah

to put it in perspective

chevreuse is

40% shred for 2 elements

and 60% atk up

citlali without scroll:
20% shred

oh i guess i should add ttds

which at r5 is 48% atk

so 20% shred and 48% atk

• scroll is an additional 40% elemental damage bonus for the elements involved in the reaction so pyro/cry

cryo

oh shit i forgot to add chevy's 20% electro/pyro damage bonus at c6

[slow raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL6deIJEG3c

[astral drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMFc1l0snzw

[rapid bough]

first corin lost void week i can remember, random bullshit go!

[wispy goblet]

do you get extra for using multiple spotlight characters

[rapid bough]

no

but all of them also have the permanent 4 tasks to do

[rapid bough]

and i still need to do tasks for all three of these

going into ether activity 8 with this jank bullshit lmao

[wispy goblet]

das crazy

I can't do the Rank 6 challenge to beat the boss in under 3:30

[digital marlin]

same have issues with doing 8 with my teams too

[rapid bough]

to be clear i've done full ether activity (15? whatever the max is) so i can choose whichever 8 i want

i did not choose the 3:30 time limit lol

[wispy goblet]

still
to unlock the medium challenges
you gotta beat Level 3, which requires including that one
and then, to unlock the next level, you gotta include it again

gotta do my Solo Raid challenge run tonight since I'll be tied up over the next few days

world's craziest alleged leak source

[wispy goblet]

Didn't do well this run, but I also wasn't trying very hard. Oh well.

[runic ether]

https://www.tumblr.com/togekk0/790338134557835264?source=share

she/her/birb💜 evolving toge 🐣

-# #yuzualice #art #illustration #zzz #ukinami yuzuha #alice

Tumblr · Jul 28, 2025, 5:53 PM

[rapid bough]

this was fucking miserable, 0/10 would not recommend

corin is so shit on this difficulty level

[maiden veldt]

this is what i used.

[rapid bough]

her EX is basically a suicide move because it's so goddamn slow

which is a shame because it hits like a truck

having to use a clunky character with slow animations that don't get iframes in a difficulty level that one-shots you at one slip-up made me want to commit sudoku

[maiden veldt]

she works best as burst dps after a stun, sucks at aoe damage though.

[wispy goblet]

hmm
am I good enough to beat the boss in 3:30 at Ether 4 with Mostly Ice

[maiden veldt]

lycaon plus her allowed butlerboo to be used so that's what i went with.

https://tenor.com/view/butler-bangboo-zzz-genshin-zenles-zone-zero-gif-7629217006528117449

[wispy goblet]

I guess I could do Yunkui Summit team

[maiden veldt]

time limit thing can be quite a pain for non meta stuff so i tend to use the no shop at the end over it for less then idea teams.

[rapid bough]

apparently i actually did choose the time limit but i comfortably cleared within it

[wispy goblet]

okay
gonna bring the whole Summit

can I clear Ether 4

[rapid bough]

it just took me a billion tries because i kept getting one-shot from getting clipped by a single frame of the boss's attack while i was out of iframe

[wispy goblet]

okay fine I'll just play the super-synergistic team that counters the boss mechanics

event

||cute reference to the dew gardening event||

[wispy goblet]

it's over for this guy

[summer hornet]

https://youtu.be/s-n9weZtcN0?si=IO2qm4iLcKxDQAP9

Took me a moment but I realized

This feels more like an HSR trailer than a Genshin one, in terms of presentation

[runic ether]

she beat up that pos wenut

she gets an a in my book

[summer hornet]

(to be clear, this is a good thing in my book lol. I know I just asked who to go for, but I suddenly have a lot more interest in Ineffa than Citali)

(not enough to beat Sethos, though)

[runic ether]

ineffa is kind of but kind of not a good teammate to sethos too

but sethos' best team probably wouldnt include ineffa long term

[summer hornet]

Yeah, it seems like she prefers an entirely different type of play style than Sethos

[runic ether]

well

i mean

ineffa is just fischl 2

and sethos scales off em

so he actually does decent for lunar electro charged

but he def wants different teammates if u are focusing for him as a carry

[summer hornet]

I've mostly been using him as Hyperbloom detonator, cause of Furina and Nahida, but I'm aware it's not the most optimal lol

[runic ether]

thats more of a hyperbloom team

its a nahida/furina team

not a sethos team

nothing wrong with that of course

[summer hornet]

Yeah

It's also not a team where Ineffa would shine, I think?

[runic ether]

worse fischl there

actually

no yeah

cus furina has nowhere near the hydro app

you'd do sethos/fischl/nahida/flex

kazuha works?

xilonen works

ig u could use zhongli too

[summer hornet]

Kazuha never lets me down 😌

[runic ether]

kazuha offers grouping but no defensive value

[summer hornet]

Only one of those I have, so by necessity he'd go there lol

[runic ether]

xilonen has healing and works wayyyyy better with nahida bc gl swirling electro with kazuha when nahida is on the team

but geo

and then zhongli is zhonglie

but

way worse buffer than the others

hm

no yeah i think i'd go citlali before ineffa unless you really like flins and, it turns into the fact that ineffa will be vital for his team

[summer hornet]

Wait who's flins

[runic ether]

the launch character of 6.x

with lauma

we'll know what he does in

2 days?

give or take

[summer hornet]

Out of the revealed NodKrai roster, Durin caught my eye most

[runic ether]

hes supposedly bennet 2

[summer hornet]

[wispy goblet]

this Yixuan tech is not easy on auto chain

[runic ether]

a lot of good tech lies behind manual chains

[wispy goblet]

okay
I'm getting it semi-reliably

okay we're getting it
that feels so good

[timber sigil]

https://vxtwitter.com/wannermin/status/1950055771812598132

わなみん (@wannermin)

https://t.co/NnNAZ2nP6t

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@rapid bough @idle grove

[idle grove]

god bless

[spare mist]

What game is that?

[rapid bough]

girls frontline 2

[timber sigil]

she's the latest unit on the CN server of GFL2

[slow raft]

why are the uma servers so giga slow

i expect 3k apologems in the mail by this time tomorrow

[long tree]

Too popular

Servers chuggin cause too many players

[runic ether]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1mca5am/flins_kit_via_seele_and_x1/

simple and to the point

[old galleon]

Lol

don't even know how this happened, i used jalter's 3 and it set to a weird camera angle before making them invisible

[summer hornet]

Oberon was lying to you all along

Jalter and Chen Gong were never real

[old galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515603996661252107/1398558331794358304/Screenshot_20250725_223755_FateGO.jpg?ex=6889c0f2&is=68886f72&hm=ada0d92c93c1d20ac4549332b09f8424115d1d70f7ad001fb83414c7a7024c2f&=&format=webp&width=879&height=549

[versed pawn]

uma legit unplayable right now

just getting through dailys is a pain

[silver osprey]

Connection issues?

[mortal iron]

https://x.com/LeonMandala/status/1949889198087164207

LeonMandala (@LeonMandala)

I love how most of the umas with hats always have their hats special tailored to fit the uma ears in, meanwhile nosebleed girl just rips one, not even two, hole to accommodate her ear(s)

X · Jul 28, 2025, 5:46 PM

[glossy latch]

God Im so close to 3k ATK on Yuzuha

Just 50 off >.>

[silver osprey]

Mambo

[glossy latch]

There we go, 3K attack

Ah nvm

You need AM too

Aaaand Im back under 3K >.>

[icy flicker]

I gave up on this like a week ago

[glossy latch]

Im too close to give up

Im just gonna keep rolling

Sooner or later I will get it

Granted it was stupid of me to decide to minmax Freedom Blues 4-pc for Jane

[wispy goblet]

I gotta bank disc rolls for the new discs coming out

[runic ether]

i dont bank those. i bank battery to dump into discs

[glossy latch]

I just need a freedom blues disc 6 with anomaly mastery and ATK%

Unfortunately thats not easy to get

[runic ether]

out of curiosity u know ur gonna want to swap her to the new set

in a few weeks?

[glossy latch]

Whats the new set again?

[runic ether]

2pc is energy

4pc is 18% dmg up on ex skill or ult for 25 seconds

its basically swing jazz but doesnt need chain attack

[glossy latch]

Hmmmm

I mean maybe

But I like the extra anomaly buildup on Freedom Blues 4-pc

Ill see

Its not like Freedom Blues is a bad disc set to farm anyway tbh

... although

It has bad uptime on the 4-pc 🤔

Maybe Ill end up swapping over anyway

[icy flicker]

is it worth sacking like 80 ap to get her over 3k?

[glossy latch]

Ye

200 AP is the minimum, but 3K ATK is also critical

No wait

200 AP might not even be neccessary

So 3K Atk has priority for sure

[icy flicker]

[slow raft]

they are non stop bashing outis

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-trying-to-not-laugh-speed-holding-laugh-speed-laughing-speed-laugh-gif-242565803459391828

[icy flicker]

done

[glossy latch]

Pog

Dont wanna burn up my batteries so Ill try and just farm the disc 6 over the week

Then I can max out the skills lmao

(Ive gotten her core maxed out fwiw)

[slow raft]

genuine distress in her voice

[glossy latch]

Whats her weapon?

Huh, an odd Kukri of some kind

[slow raft]

who?

[glossy latch]

Outis, assuming thats who you posted

[icy flicker]

yeah im done with Yuzu aside from maybe investing more into her chip skills? Next up is the prefarm for Yanagi roulette 🙏

[slow raft]

https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/images/4/48/LCB_Sinner_Outis_Idle_Sprite.png?16e01c

[glossy latch]

Very odd handguard

[slow raft]

its a bit weird but its also a gunblade

[glossy latch]

... que?

Where the fuck is the gun part o.0

[slow raft]

its more proounced in her ego art but there is a kind of barrel running along the blade

https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/images/f/f4/To_Páthos_Máthos_Outis.png?1f972f

[glossy latch]

Huh

[slow raft]

https://youtu.be/G4_0wowrT8k?si=vB-PiajXxWCbMEJ7

[runic ether]

the oddysey had a purpose

[slow raft]

ive been saying this

[summer hornet]

I still don’t know what she means by that

[slow raft]

ok so

the ancient greek word "Outis" can mean "nobody" or no one

[summer hornet]

She’s Greek?

Wait

[slow raft]

yes, and from her choice of pseudonym, can you perhaps extrapolate the character from literature shes representing

[summer hornet]

How in the world

Genuinely brainblasted

[slow raft]

add to that the fact that her sinner icon is a watch with a horse on it

[summer hornet]

I would never have come to that conclusion on my own

wtf

[runic ether]

it took me a sec until i saw her say that and i was reminded of who oddyseus presented himself as to the cyclops

and shes a veteran of the smoke wars so on top of that we know that outis is almost certainly, a milf

[slow raft]

polyphemus was one of my favourite bedtime stories as a kid so i caught on to it rather quickly

[summer hornet]

Like I know Limbus does the stylistic switcheroos on character stories, just based off Canto 1 and 2

But I genuinely never expected that one

[slow raft]

every single sinner has some sort of direct literature inspiration

[summer hornet]

The waifu Odysseus that FGO was too afraid to give…

Have there been hints that I was missing until now

Besides the name and the quote

[slow raft]

meursault, faust, gregor, sinclair, heathcliff, ishmael, rodion, don quixote and dante are all from commonly known works in the snglish speaking world i think
ryoshu is from hell screen, hong lu is from dream of the red chamber and yi sang is from, the wings

[slow raft]

where are you at?

idt she drops many hints beside the fact that shes a war veteran

[summer hornet]

Haven’t started Canto 3, just finished the first run of Mirror Dungeon

[slow raft]

yeah unless i misremeber something the only hints are her name, her icon, her ego and the war

[summer hornet]

Gotcha

I'm just still reeling a bit lol

What Canto is hers? And whose is Canto 3, assuming it isn't Outis'. I know you said the narrative parallels started kicking off harder there, so I'm probably going to try and refamiliarize myself with the stories before each Canto

[old galleon]

plot twist: jp anni servant is genderbent odysseus (can even name her outis for the spice)

[slow raft]

the canto order is the same order as the sinners introducded themself in (atleast up until now)

so hers would be canto 11 if the trend continues

next season is confirmed to be ryoshu, which is canto 9 so youd have to wait quite a bit

[slow raft]

to save you the trouble of rereading the story: ||gregor, rodion, sinclair, yi sang, ishmael, heathcliff, don quixote, hong lu, ryoshu, meursault, outis, faust||

[summer hornet]

||Thank you 👍||

[slow raft]

https://x.com/giornohasagi/status/1950023999167103005

giornohasagi (@giornohasagi)

zzz: iron-blooded orphans
#seedzzz #zzzero📷

X · Jul 29, 2025, 2:42 AM

[silver osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-uma-musume-dropkick-gif-1310520311152972568

[rapid bough]

holy shit i didn't realize the miyabi kick gif was a parody of that

https://tenor.com/pIevTXOYyao.gif

[slow raft]

https://x.com/09wave_hb/status/1950289983950270702

🍨🍼 (@09wave_hb)

X · Jul 29, 2025, 8:19 PM

[old galleon]

yeah if nothing else the floofy fights in this event feel a lot more fair than the original

running the post-story floofs for cnoc dupes, they're definitely much easier

but more importantly, more fair

[idle grove]

https://vxtwitter.com/zhatus_/status/1949631534220349773

zah (@zhatus_)

🐉 🚗💨💨💨

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 28, 2025, 12:42 AM

[old galleon]

ceasunnos is by far the most annoying of the three, though

the other two are absolutely free, but his gimmick is actually worth playing around

still nothing too bad

[versed pawn]

Someday I get the run where I hit 1200 speed/1000 Stam and /800 power

[old galleon]

oh also i just realized i didn't have the damage ce up in this comp, so that made it harder than it needed to be

[versed pawn]

Also super creek decided to not have a event this run

[long tree]

Worst is when the first two parts of an event proc... and then never the third

[silver osprey]

Twin turbo be like

[slow raft]

https://x.com/dekadekainu/status/1950194660535599288

でかい犬 (@dekadekainu)

リー先生
#アークナイツ版深夜の真剣お絵かき60分一本勝負

X · Jul 29, 2025, 2:00 PM

[old galleon]

aight, cnoc is 10/10/10 and grailed to 90, the exact opposite of what you should do if using her for esports, but i'm not into that anyway

[slow raft]

Since i have now farmed as many mats as is reasonable, and need to return to the dreaded task of farming disks, i figured i should once again concern myself with team building.
Ive tried to compose as many teams as i can without using amy agents more than once and have arrived as these 5 (plus the leftovers who i felt bad for not using).
I have almost absolutley no clue how to properly build teams for zzz however, so id appreachiate any help trying to optimize this (the no dupes clause was just for my autism, if its better to use certain operators over the ones ive slotted in please tell me)

Also idk how much it matters but in terms of s rank w engines i have
hailstorm shrine, weeping cradle, the brimstone and hellfire gears

[runic ether]

this looks fine overall

yanagi in leftovers sadge but she can go in for miyabi's team too

miyabi/yanagi/astra

or yuzuha

good generic team for any basic content even if its ice resistant

in end game they get pulled apart but yea

only thing i'd change here would be order on the teams

in eve/pulchra/astra

astra should be in slot 1, then eve in 2, and pulchra in 3

since pulchra tags in reverse

u can get some pretty sick free combos off that

[slow raft]

Oh, is it not good to switch from oulchra to eve then?

[runic ether]

particularly useful for tower that tracks that

[runic ether]

no yea it does but it is a "proper" combo in-game

[slow raft]

I dont quite follow

[runic ether]

astra autos -> hold e -> eve autos -> pulchra reverse swap to eve

eve sandwiched between their swaps

but starting from astra flows directly to eve rather than getting a chain to astra from pulchra after a stun

[slow raft]

Oh so its the starting the stage as astra thats important

[runic ether]

most notable for eve chain cancels

yep

and then pulchra wants to reverse into eve so she goes last in order

[slow raft]

I mean yeah k was already doing that with this order so i understand atleast that much

[runic ether]

technically the same applies to caesar but thats a tiny minor optimizatioj

since caesar doesnt do it like astra

[slow raft]

I heard somewhere that one needs to build yuzuha differently for miyabi than regularly which is why i didnt put her in the miyabi team
In general for a miyabi team is yuzuha or astra preferable?

[runic ether]

technically yuzuha

but astra has really good synergy with vivian

if yanagi or burnice go yuzuha

if vivian is used go astra

[slow raft]

Nyaruhodo

[runic ether]

jane doesnt care either way but prefers yuzuha herself a lot

[slow raft]

Iirc khaios said miyabi vivian is really good, might have to try that

So i could do miyabi vivian astra and jane burnice yuzuha

Assuming burnice is good with jane

[runic ether]

they can all swap partners yeah

burnice/jane/yuzuha

does work well

[slow raft]

Anomaly polycule

[runic ether]

vivian/miyabi/astra

yanagi/vivian/yuzuha is also a baller team

[slow raft]

Noted

[runic ether]

yanagi is also by all means the biggest winner from yuzuha

[slow raft]

I assume eve suffers massively from not having astra access?

[runic ether]

yes mostly

doable teams without astra buuut

its not as comfortable

[slow raft]

Makes sense

[runic ether]

the tower is the only end game where this can ever come up tho

but that also lets u brings up to 9 agents

[slow raft]

I assume in comibination with any anomly char and not just miyabi?

[runic ether]

and lets u mishmash

[runic ether]

yeah burnice/vivian in particular

[slow raft]

(I have so far only used yanagi as a miyabi crutch)

[runic ether]

some psychos play yanagi/jane

those people are mentally ill and on too much adderal

[slow raft]

Alright thanks for the advice
I think ill focus on the two anomaly teams and then squad 4/5 for now.
Farm proper disks for them, learn yuzuha, burnice, vivian, lycanon and rina and then i think im comfortable with my roster

Tho the first step will be to make a spreadsheet

[runic ether]

hold on grinding too hard for now

next patch is going to have a good support disc

gives energy mainstat and 4pc is swing jazz but off ex skill and ult

rather than chain or ult

very very comfortable for supports

[slow raft]

For which characters is that projected to be and upgrade?

[runic ether]

and bis for some specifically yuzuha

[slow raft]

Yuzuha and astra i recon?

[runic ether]

though lucy and rina also use it

astra no

astra likes astral voice more

[slow raft]

Noted

[runic ether]

tho she can still use the other as a 2pc

[slow raft]

Then i will farm for them last

[runic ether]

if she has energy needs

ah wait

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTj2PaPq6Py_1B5fsOPj_Moc-tN_7mut7fICczI6lz1njyEIAInTnfB7lAraX4pYCRGNbaHGlIbFZ90/pubhtml

good general guide for relics and teams

wengine options too

[slow raft]

I already bookmarked this and will use it as reference for my spreadsheet

[runic ether]

[slow raft]

Huh, thats neat
https://x.com/LimbusCornpany/status/1950155036073373767

pink yi sang (@LimbusCornpany)

does anyone know about this

X · Jul 29, 2025, 11:22 AM

Never noticed it cause im not active during the night in the backstreets but thats fun

[runic ether]

wtf

thats some good detail

[slow raft]

https://x.com/them_failure/status/1950006291872596438

BlueJay (@them_failure)

X · Jul 29, 2025, 1:31 AM

[copper steppe]

finally got my lazy ass to finish hsr previous patch story quest

pretty slow at the start but it has a good end

[rapid bough]

it's nikke solo raid time and i realized i only have tove at MLB1 so i can't get her favorite item

so now i'm going on an extremely low odds gacha hunt

first, 20 standard recruits with her wishlisted, no dice

the second one even teased me with a missilis gold

but it was a QEQ dupe (didn't even have the decency to be trina instead, syuen when i find you...)

100 social pulls, no dice

now for 2 missilis molds

i wanted to save the molds for when the mold update happened but it's not even looking like that'll be "mold pity", just occasional 100% molds from tribe tower in addition to the 50% ones

[rapid bough]

QEQ stole my tove dupes

now for the big one... 20 SSR molds

ok it's not what i wanted but it's kinda funny i got alice, soda, and both their bunny alts in the same pull

[old galleon]

you also got 2 yuni dupes lol

[rapid bough]

and now i'm spent

https://tenor.com/b2jM7.gif

can't even hope for tove from the mileage shop since she wasn't a release nikke

and hell if i'm spending gold tickets on her

WAIT

what is THIS

[old galleon]

yeah i was gonna say silver mileage is an option for dupes

[rapid bough]

SINCE WHEN

[old galleon]

since a while, at least

[slow raft]

Did you not know about these

[old galleon]

i remember it being there for s3

[slow raft]

I think it was there even when i started the game

[old galleon]

oh right, speaking of, scuffed setup isn't sustainable so nikke's gonna have to be on hiatus with most of the others for a bit

[rapid bough]

i can't believe i never knew this was here for silver mileage

i must've memory holed it because it's only for the latest favorite item nikkes

while the gold ticket one is for any of them (and can also give the nikkes themselves, not just their dupes)

[wispy goblet]

yeah I got my Helm dupes with silver tickets

[rapid bough]

just used up 20 standard and 100 social pulls + 2 missilis molds and 20 SSR molds when i could've just opened the shop and bought a tove dupe with these silver tickets i never use

not my proudest moment

but also not like i was never going to use those

if they end up implementing mold pity i'll be upset about using the molds but also i was on rate for those, so they wouldn't even have triggered pity

just uh

a wee bit stupid on my part

[slow raft]

Happens to tve bedt of us

[rapid bough]

this is really the struggle of always having like 700+ pulls saved

i almost never look at the mileage shop lol

[slow raft]

If its any consolation i recently let my guaranteed ssr ticket expire in arknights so i definitely share the pain

[rapid bough]

and when i do it's to spend gold tickets

i did however get QEQ MLB out of this endeavor

so it wasn't for nothing

gotta say devs were hella based making the most important part of tove's favorite item available at phase 1