#Gacha Chat

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honest pawn
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wait

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I kinda wanna get this

mortal iron
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the Gods will give you 1 star guts sparks until you do

honest pawn
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this would be super fucking funny to have in my room

late canopy
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Those are very very cheap

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So you could totally do it

mortal iron
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yeah theyre like worthless

honest pawn
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HORSES ARE NEVER WORTHLESS

mortal iron
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wait till you see the 1/7 prices

late canopy
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Buying fancy figure of Bourbon (x)
Spending 3 times the money to make digital Bourbon strong (o)

mortal iron
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look at how cheap they can be

honest pawn
mortal iron
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proud dad

honest pawn
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oh right that IS her dad

late canopy
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Dad comes equipped with endless supply of dad jokes

silver osprey
idle grove
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is kitasan this week???

slow raft
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it releases 16th yea

long tree
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Wed n e s day

mortal iron
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im more of a
wed g e n e s i s day

idle grove
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my carats are not ready

honest pawn
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my two braincells

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okay the anime didn't give off much sapphic vibes but

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are these horses gay

silver osprey
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When there can only be girls in your race...

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Also wasn't Spe gushing over Suzuka in the anime too

honest pawn
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yeah but this is something else

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THAT'S MY GOAT

mortal iron
honest pawn
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I unlocked Bakushin Bakushin Bakushinshin

long tree
mortal iron
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in the anime several times you see the crowd applauding the horse girls new outfit for example

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often times only the female audience members blush

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the guys dont alot of the times

honest pawn
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MY GOAT

rapid bough
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finished gfl2 event part 2 story, ||it was all very good, though my best guess for the cliffhanger of part 1 was always that it was some fake shit happening in peri's head so it's a bit of a bummer that S-tier cliffhanger fell flat the way i thought it would||

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||this may just be me, but when stories are told in a backwards way like this event (a bunch of shit happens at the start that makes no sense, and gaps are slowly filled in) it always kind of rubs me the wrong way||

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||i get that it's a device meant to build mystery and keep the reader engaged by making them ask "wait what the fuck?", but it always has to play with fire by avoiding completely confusing the reader to the point of disinterest||

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||there were a few times at the start, especially coming off the cliffhanger of part 1, where i was genuinely so lost i had to stop and reread just to make sure i hadn't missed something... and i hadn't, the story was just deliberately hiding things and expecting me to realize i wasn't expected to know what was going on, which was a bit frustrating||

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||but it all lead to a very satisfying conclusion that felt to me like the game devs obviously saying "hey CN launch bros, we heard you hated the initial direction of the story with the commander as an exile, so this event starts the new chapters of the commander reuniting with everyone||

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||it's also kind of funny how completely different the story direction was in part 2 vs part 1... p1 was borderline slice of life, feel-good stuff (with a cliffhanger that turned shit from 0 to 100), while p2 was "constant crisis" mode that honestly could've functioned on its own, without p1 at all. way different from the other two-parter events we've had (sojourners and aphelion), where both parts were much more connected, with a consistent overarching plot and tone||

old galleon
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had a few days to sit on it, senya as sa is clearly very good

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issue is, he was already very good before stellar awakening and his sa itself is only good bc stellar burst access and start of battle stacks

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his stellar skill is buttcheeks

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it might actually be the worst stellar skill in teh game among non-gacha characters

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Fire and Shade type attack of user +30% (4 turns)

Buff effect +6% per B Skill Stack.png Blade of Skill stacked (Max 5 stacks: +60%)
Fire type slash attack on all enemies x2 (XXL, 4x)
    Skill multiplier increases based on stacked B Strength Stack.png Blade of Strength (Max 6x)
        Does not include skill which activate before attacking
At the start of the next turn:
    Inflicts Stun on user and cannot be prevented aside from getting disabled by statuses.
Consume all B Strength Stack.png Blade of Strength and B Skill Stack.png Blade of Skill
When in Stellar Burst: Before attack, change to Silver Shroud (4 turns) and execute Fugen Itto-Ryu: Fuko and Fugen Itto-Ryu: Unryu
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that's the entire effect, which looks great except the two blatant drawbacks on it that aren't removed even when using it in stellar burst

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At the start of the next turn:
Inflicts Stun on user and cannot be prevented aside from getting disabled by statuses.
Consume all B Strength Stack.png Blade of Strength and B Skill Stack.png Blade of Skill
what an awful combination of effects

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the stun is obviously bad in and of itself, but if it were just that, there would be ways to work around it, tho it'd be annoying

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the kicker is removing his stacks

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each stack of skill and strength buffs his two 5 star skills and also gives him various stat bonuses

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and he starts the battle with 3 each (out of 5) due to his stellar passive

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if those downsides were removed during stellar burst, this would be an incredible skill

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you wouldn't be able to spam it but that's what unryu is for

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but alas

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i can't see a serious use case for this skill in its current state, which is sad

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funny thing is if senya were a gacha character, the drawbacks wouldn't exist on the skill at all, its current sb effect would be part of its regular effect,a dn its new sb effect would be something like setting fire zone and radical awakening it for 3 turns (with no limit per battle)

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but we can't have nice things : ^)

versed pawn
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Man Uma with the split banner system kinda annoying

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Why u not just ba

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So cards seem to be more important overall

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Stars are a multiplier tho for your endscore

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With your aptitudes

long tree
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Cards just trounce Umas cause you need a good deck while a score multi/exclusive inheretence traits are just nice to have

versed pawn
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Too bad I coundt get the freebie card

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Started too late for thst

long tree
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Eh its fine theyll be more and better speed cards to find

versed pawn
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Well are they free tho nyaruhodo

long tree
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No but if youre not pulling for kitisan black you get banisjed to the shadow realm anyway

silver osprey
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This is true

mortal iron
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@late canopy does the freebie cards get reran events

runic ether
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honestly kind of easy for a da

rapid bough
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butcher was giving me fits (not to 20k, but to optimize)

runic ether
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oh yeah i noticed that butcher was kind of fat

rapid bough
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dude is tanky as fuck

runic ether
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jane works super well for him though

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jane/vivi

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its kind of the "wants yuzuha" kind of boss

rapid bough
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i tried jane/vivi and barely got 20k

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miyabi/vivi/nicole ended u pbeing my best team

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at like 28k or something

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i forget, i reset it to see how well i could do with miyabi/yanagi/astra

runic ether
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i hit 22k before i stopped trying but idt i'd have gone above 24k if i kept playing

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yuzuha probably gaps this

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easy 30k

rapid bough
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yeah i thought to myself "sure wish yuzu was out" when i was trying it lol

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luckily it'll still be active when we get her

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so i'll prolly retry once i get and gear her

runic ether
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i did have exactly one reset too because pompey got stuck out of bounds while i was wrecking him

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and he decided to just fuck off into the void

rapid bough
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i reset a lot for DAs because i like optimizing runs

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so my first complete attempts are usually after several resets, often in the first 5-10 seconds of the fight to get a consistent opener

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i reset my runs to experiment but i was like 41k on priest with yixuan/pan/fufu, 41k on pompey with eve/lighter/astra (which is funny since the boss buffs are anomaly focused lol), and then like 28k with miyabi/vivi/nicole on butcher

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i mentioned this above but i did just recently notice my vivi's disks are booty cheeks tho

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gonna have to go back to the melody mines after i get yuzu's disk set up and running

wispy goblet
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autopilot delete all my %DEF disks
go to find disks for Ben

rapid bough
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why do you want disks for ben lol

wispy goblet
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Ben feels so good to play

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He's like a weightier Walmart Yixuan

rapid bough
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well that's certainly one combination of messages i never expected to read

runic ether
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nah hes cooking

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ben has good unit feel outside of

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moving

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but ppl play dps ben and have killed da bosses

rapid bough
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i hate any unit that has insanely slow animations

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ben and soukaku are borderline unplayable for me

wispy goblet
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I saw someone pair Ben with Lucy to get around his slow walkspeed
maybe I'll try it (way down the line after I build more meta characters)

rapid bough
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anything can be made to work in this game

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whether it's good or worth your time is a different question entirely lol

runic ether
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his actual animations are fast and impactful

rapid bough
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impactful yes

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fast? respectfully nah dawg

wispy goblet
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Zhu Yuan is going places
only two of her disks are maxed out, too

runic ether
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its just his movement

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ben has really good attacks and motion values

wispy goblet
rapid bough
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no his animations are definitely super fucking slow too

wispy goblet
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which, to be fair
takes a year and a half to finish

runic ether
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u should give ben a try again recently

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ben's attack strings are actually quite fast and come out quick

wispy goblet
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but his other attacks are fine for his archetype
his parry is responsive

rapid bough
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i literally have, i used him in his short demo for free rewards on fufu's banner

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still felt as shit as i remember

wispy goblet
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the game is mocking me

runic ether
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insanely good piece

digital marlin
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Just got to hope those crits hit

wispy goblet
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now I really need to roll some crit rate...

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update: the game continues to not give me crit rate

runic ether
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you should probably use a crit rate disc 4

wispy goblet
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at this point, yeah
tbh I'm within Zhu's recommended parameters on the guide
just would have been nice to have it a little more balanced

late canopy
wispy goblet
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68.6% crit after EX, Chain, or Ult (so basically all the time as a burster) is fine

runic ether
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its fine until you miss a crit

wispy goblet
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and I've got one more disk to go

runic ether
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i think for zhu yuan, with your current account, you should def try and get a more consistent crit rate

wispy goblet
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getting a new crit rate disk would take me to about 55% base crit rate (my current D4 has some crit rate substat rolls) and 115% crit damage (assuming no extra crit damage substats)

runic ether
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chase cdmg and atk subs

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a 55% base + 120% cdmg is a very solid build

wispy goblet
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how do I choose between ATK% and Ether% for D5

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unrelatedly, rolled a very nice disc for Nicole

runic ether
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depends on your buffs

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element% will be good if you have attack buffers or a lot of attack buffs in the support discs

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or for example: astra

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though with astra, she may overload a lot of attack and can make pen% better

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and a 2pc pen set

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like example

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astra/nicole/zhu yuan

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a team like this would heavily favor pen% and 2pc pen set

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zhu yuan/anby/nicole

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a more stock team

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would have it be kind of interchangable between ether or atk

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zhu yuan with qingyi and nicole may favor ether

wispy goblet
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I see

toxic cloud
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thank you fuwisty

slow raft
mortal iron
versed pawn
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mhh the uma game needs like shard farming outside of those events

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like BA has that where u can run a certain stage and get shards for characters u wanna raise up

late canopy
slow raft
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of the free s rank w- engines you can get, which one is the reccomneded one? i already have cradel and hellfire so i doubt itd be a copy of eithe rof those but idk

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also im finally continuing the story
wtf is an exaltist? they talk like thats a known favtion but idt theyve come up before

long tree
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I need haru to appear cheering the honse in last

mortal iron
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it really is funny coz irl gold ship loved france

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horse broke from the introduction track just to get applause from the audience

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and closer to the cameras coz somehow, he knew what they do

honest pawn
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I am saving up my carrots

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I need TM Opera O in my life

summer hornet
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Calamity Jane looks nice

honest pawn
honest pawn
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wait can you not pull Seiun Sky

slow raft
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not yet

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theres a few horses yet to be playable

honest pawn
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SHE KEEPS WINNING EVERY RACE AGAINST MY HORSES

old galleon
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that's how they get you to pull for her : ^)

honest pawn
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I wanted to pull her from the minute I finished the first episode of the anime

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look at her :)

rapid bough
slow raft
late canopy
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Waow beeg

honest pawn
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I JUST REALIZED

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I HAVEN'T TOUCHED THE MAIN STORY AT ALL

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I'VE BEEN DOING CAREERS

rapid bough
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thwarting the exaltists was like the entire plot of 1.4 and the second half of the season 1 epilogue

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currently they are the big bad faction

slow raft
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i am currently starting the season 1 epilouge

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and i dont recall the name exalitst ever being metnioned

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tho tbf i did skip through some of the side events

late canopy
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That's not a horse, it's a cat pretending to be one

silver osprey
late canopy
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Team Sirius story

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Mcqueen and Rice Shower story right now

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More later

rapid bough
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i can't remember exactly when they were first referred to as the exaltists by name but i'm nearly certain you just forgor or missed it if you don't recognize them by epilogue part 1

honest pawn
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I'm so happy to be playing a Cygames gacha again

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I love these guys

late canopy
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I've been in cygames slave territory nonstop since 2018

slow raft
silver osprey
late canopy
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Always have at least been playing one cygames game

slow raft
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kinda weird that they just drop it like youre expected to know it but whatever

silver osprey
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Funny that technically cygames released 2 gachas at once

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For global

honest pawn
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shame on you

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for EVER thinking

old galleon
honest pawn
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you could beat her

honest pawn
slow raft
honest pawn
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I believe in you suzuka

silver osprey
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Doing her best bakushin impression

honest pawn
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oh well

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this song is my new favorite lmao

toxic cloud
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Proud of you roaster

honest pawn
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it sounds almost exactly like a Gundam Seed Destiny ED song

silver osprey
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Favourite for me is Toresen Ondo

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Sadly we only get it in like 2 years

honest pawn
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you are my favorite now

mortal iron
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it's funny that tachyon is scarlet's dad

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but they dont ever pair them off even in the OVA where they do meet

glossy latch
runic ether
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they cant all be lord freeza

glossy latch
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Yeah but this is the Kamen Rider W pose

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But the Kamen Rider Build catchphrase

mortal iron
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Team N are just a bunch of aura farmers

silver osprey
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Oh, Marco is also playing Uma

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We got another

versed pawn
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welp gotta wait to pull for cards i guess when i wanna make any notable advance

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spark farming seems to much of a pain to do

glossy latch
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Lupa is finally approaching being fully built

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Just need to get lucky with a couple echoes rolling crit substats

long tree
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Jesus archer is nuts

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This mf can reload at mach 1 with all the followups he does

runic ether
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yea fr

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hes so fucking strong

glossy latch
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Sparkle deserves to have a good DPS for her nyaruhodo

runic ether
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lol

wispy goblet
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my first two star

rapid bough
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bit of a jank team but i guess you don't really have a choice with a limited roster lol

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i'd bet yixuan/fufu/nicole would do better though

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not sure what zhu yuan does for your team

long tree
# runic ether

Misty stop the rng generator cannot handle this statistical anomoly

wispy goblet
# rapid bough not sure what zhu yuan does for your team

she has a fat ass
uhh her burst rotation is piss easy
(Yixuan's is too but my instincts are to spend her adrenaline way more aggressively and use defensive assists to build it back)
time stop is fun (even though I have no idea how to optimize it)

rapid bough
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she has a fat ass
based

digital marlin
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Wait no Panda?

rapid bough
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yixuan's burst rotation (in its simplest form) is literally just pressing ult twice though so

rapid bough
wispy goblet
digital marlin
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We ne d to change that

rapid bough
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speaking of yixuan burst rotation, i need to master the stun tech that lets you use her ult1 and trigger a chain attack simultaneously

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some real big brain shit

wispy goblet
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I've been practicing doing parry + defensive assist and perfect dodge + defensive assist

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someday I'm gonna reroll Yixuan's substats for more HP and crit rate
but for now she's basically done

rapid bough
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with your account roster as incompete as it is, all your characters should be "done" as soon as they have a full disk set

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no substat optimization will help you more than just leveling a new character

wispy goblet
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but rolling for substats is so much fun

rapid bough
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that may be the most unhinged thing i've ever heard anyone say

wispy goblet
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you heard me compare Ben to Yixuan yesterday

icy flicker
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still more unhinged

rapid bough
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at least both of them have important parry mechanics so i can kinda see it if i squint

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there is simply no justification for enjoying RNG gear though

wispy goblet
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It's a huge hassle and pain when you roll poorly, yes
But the gambling in the moment is a huge high

rapid bough
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when you hear someone say "i love gambling, it is so much fun", do you not think they are unhinged

wispy goblet
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It's an activity literally designed to target dopamine

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It's dangerous and addictive
But it's fun

digital marlin
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i just want the character and to get out

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i feel like that is just how it is for all gacha specfically

wispy goblet
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Also
"'Gambling is fun' is an unhinged take." - gacha player

long tree
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Gambling is the most fun thing you can do, its also the most life ruining thing you can do thats legal

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Worth

rapid bough
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the reality is that it is just self-hatred

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i'm too self aware to not realize the system that's captured me is basically as predatory as can be, and i would never encourage anyone to enter this hell on the pretense that it's "fun"

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more importantly though, gambling on gacha and gambling for substats ain't the same

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the most popular gacha games in the world are built explicitly on selling characters, that's what the central gacha is for

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gear RNG is just a rat race many of them implement to keep people grinding

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no one's logging on to ZZZ thinking "oh boy time to do my 3 routine cleanups for the day!"

rapid bough
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seek help

digital marlin
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it was just a minor phase

wispy goblet
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rolling for substats combines the twin dangerous addictive activities of "gambling" and "number go up"
also gambling for substats is way less likely to involve major monetary risk

old galleon
rapid bough
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it's like y'all don't read

old galleon
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uh sir

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this is a yugioh server

rapid bough
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oh true

old galleon
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not reading is in the job description

rapid bough
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i know this well as a programmer

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programming sucks, finishing programming is awesome

icy flicker
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going 8 months through this game and not read a single core talent description nyaruhodo

rapid bough
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it's much the same way for rolling for RNG gear

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that is extremely impressive

wispy goblet
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I finished the first four tutorials of the game today

rapid bough
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speaking of gambling, soon i will feast without regret

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i'm pretty sure the new mold system they announced isn't even mold pity, it's just some other guaranteed mold you get from towers at a lower rate than the base molds, so i could probably open these right now without issue

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but i'm holding out in case it matters

digital marlin
rapid bough
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actually valid strat now that there's the fortune telling dog

runic ether
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i was gonna say

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lmao

wispy goblet
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does that actually change anything

runic ether
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if howl dont got me, a-shuo got me

rapid bough
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it won't change your next roll on howl

digital marlin
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im pro Howl here

wispy goblet
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can you back out of the scratch card, go to the turtle, and get a different reward?

rapid bough
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but it can change your roll for that day from shit to good, if howl has a shit roll and shuo has a good roll

icy flicker
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fr?

digital marlin
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wait what

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dam have been missing out

rapid bough
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again, it only works once really

wispy goblet
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This is some wild optimization

rapid bough
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since backing out of howl's scratch card and going to a-shuo doesn't change what howl's reward is

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so you'll have to open it eventually

wispy goblet
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Ahh

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So it won't reroll the card tomorrow

rapid bough
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not to my knowledge

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idk i could be wrong, i'm always too lazy to do it anyway

wispy goblet
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Tomorrow we pull for fox samurai

rapid bough
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actually i think i misunderstood the "doesn't reroll the reward"

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howl and a-shuo's rewards are split into two pools, one with the different denny tiers and a very small chance at polys, and the other with only varying poly rewards

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you can only roll the second pool (polys) every few days of rolling on that vendor (howl/shuo), from what i'm seeing people found for howl, that is: day 3, 8, 15, 20, and 27. the counter resets at 30 days rolled, so basically the poly rewards are always 5-6 days of rolling apart

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if you start scratching a howl card, see it's shit, and back out, it doesn't advance howl's roll counter so the pool from which your rewards are drawn won't change

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however, your reward in that pool might if you come back the next day

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for reference

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the first 3 are part of the same pool (they add up to 100%), the last two are the pool you get on days 3, 8, etc

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so if you start scratching a howl card and see a bone, you know the roll is shit and can try your luck at a-shuo. you can then come back the next day and the ticket might be the drumsticks instead, but they won't be dogs/golden poop (the game will never convince me that is ice cream)

digital marlin
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and here i thought it was just completly random

rapid bough
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i will say though that i haven't bothered with any of this

icy flicker
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yeah i also thought that is just golden poo

rapid bough
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not only is it annoying, i've been rolling on a-shuo since release so i can finish the 10 poly missions for unlocking fortunes

runic ether
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same

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lol

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i just didnt bother

rapid bough
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yeah this is ultimately a super minor optimization lmao

runic ether
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i'll do it once i get all of a-shuo's rewards

rapid bough
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i will say though that one of a-shuo's "big reward" fortunes gives 3 purple disk mats for rolling at the music shop

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which kinda blows chunks

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i want polys lol

silver osprey
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20k monies 10k support cards and 150 carats in total

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Every day*

long tree
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every day
LETS GO

silver osprey
mortal iron
long tree
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How do i do the hanshin daishoten

silver osprey
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What horse are you using

long tree
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Idk what horses have that as part of their career

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Or what horses can even race in it

honest pawn
long tree
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Goldship can run it? I didnt see it as an option

slow raft
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you have to schedule it yourself

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its in late march of the 3rd year

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mayano top gun apparently does it as part of her career

long tree
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third year
Oooooooh that migjt be why i suck ass at training long distance horses

silver osprey
#

Simply feed them swinging maestro

honest pawn
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man

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I just want TM Opera O

slow raft
idle grove
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oh no...

old galleon
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glue factory (real name: wing spear) is caeda's personal weapon in the ds remakes of the marth fire emblem games

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you can deduce why it has that title

slow raft
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cavalry slayer?

runic ether
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and knights too lol

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that weapon is beyond fucked

idle grove
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i can't believe this has finally come full circle

old galleon
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so how'd they fuck it up?

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aside from creating it in the first place

idle grove
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I actually don't know past "the chinese version is way more generous"

slow raft
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speedrunning banners to catch up with original server without proper compensation to make up for it i hear

idle grove
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oh one of the things is uh

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in global they dont add limiteds to the main banner after the banner ends

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but in cn they do

slow raft
#

that + there being a simultaneous release of a gacha that garnered way more hype

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(and is more generous)

old galleon
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man if i weren't already playing enough gachas i'd probably dive into honse game myself

idle grove
#

also idk if it affects it but i'm sure there's some p5 fatigue by now

runic ether
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showed this post to my so and she said "good"

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guess persona haters are winning

slow raft
old galleon
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has p5 done a collab with any gacha other than another eden and granblue fantasy where that gacha didn't eos shortly thereafter?

idle grove
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I don't think so

idle grove
old galleon
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i don't have anything against it personally but i get the fatigue

runic ether
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my so absolutely hates that persona became popular and not smt its somewhat funny to see

idle grove
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that is kinda funny

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I don't hate persona but p5 I just do not care for

runic ether
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i have no dogs in the race either

old galleon
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i haven't been able to get around to it, but i do have smt3 and 5 i eventually want to actually beat

runic ether
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but she has been absolutely redpilling me on smt

idle grove
#

subway slammer is the only good thing p5 has produced

slow raft
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This whole gacha is mine for the eosing

idle grove
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I have just been critically overexposed to p5 without having actually played it and the style of the game itself just makes me roll my eyes now

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everyone used the music for it everywhere, inspired graphics for things with it etc

runic ether
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yeah me too though i dont even mind that much and never did

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until i started dating my so

slow raft
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It is kind of odd how the p5 style has subsumed the remake of p3

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I still really like p5 and (some of) its characters

idle grove
#

it'd be odd until you consider you get p5 players to play older persona games by just reskinning the game

slow raft
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And i would even take another persona 5 game

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But not as a gacha

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Might be bizzare coming from a guy who did dailies in 7 gachas today

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But i dont want to play a persona gacha

idle grove
#

this gacha is mine for the rolling

runic ether
#

honestly

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i feel like gachas of existing ips that arent their own games more closely always feel weird

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ie: fire emblem heroes

digital marlin
#

ay FEH i felt find as it was gamepaly wise

idle grove
#

it was until they decided to make every skill a dissertation

slow raft
idle grove
#

unfortunately I fall for it every time

digital marlin
#

yeah game balance plus their off constant new unit/skill release put powercreep in high speed

idle grove
runic ether
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like if feh had a really good story?

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sure

digital marlin
#

back to ZZZ talk man do i hate the twin bosses. just did the training event that had me use the PubSec team against the dance twins and my god their revival speed was insane

digital marlin
#

FE in general has it bad when it comes to story

runic ether
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nuh uh

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big disagree with that

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fire emblem has told some really good stories

rapid bough
runic ether
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yep thats the big trick vs them

digital marlin
runic ether
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burst them

runic ether
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great depending on who u ask

digital marlin
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Yesn't

runic ether
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u dont dominate discourse for a series with such a long history if your story was just mid

digital marlin
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the overall story is okay but when you look into the actual events and what not there are alot of stuff that comes out as either not expanded enough and or not making sense

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im talking specfically Edelgard and Rhea

runic ether
#

agree on that for sure

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but i dont think it truly detracts from the overall narrative

digital marlin
#

to me i did especially considering they had full out routes for them

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like Blue lions had a good story contained but then going into other stories and getting backstory for whats going on and it leaves you with more questions and plothles.

mortal iron
#

so who are the horses i need to race with for these special missions

long tree
#

Gold ship does all 3

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One is optional tho so prepare for it 3rd year

mortal iron
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Well I hope she locks in

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Or else shes gonna lose on purpose coz she doesn't feel like it

slow raft
turbid olive
#

Bro is lookin' at me. kek

rapid bough
#

snowbreak anniversary... katya wife... i feel the void calling to me

rapid bough
#

well i reinstalled the game and played a mission and was immediately reminded why i couldn't stick with it

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the fanservice aspect is all there, probably one of the best games out for that, and degenerate that i am that's why the void calls occasionally

but the gameplay legitimately puts me to sleep. i can't put my finger on but the gunplay is just so unsatisfying

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i'm having a bit of a laugh at the jiggle physics too, they clearly have turned them up since the last time i played and now they put ZZZ even at its most ridiculous to shame

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characters made of jello

summer hornet
#

LMFAOOOOOOOO

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You didnโ€™t actually have to give him lore-accurate range, jfc

versed pawn
#

Man was like 200 points away from a a rank Uma

long tree
silver osprey
slow raft
#

Are these images unusually low quality or do my eyes decieve me?

silver osprey
#

The big ass kits had to be compensated with lower resolution

slow raft
#

i see we are continuing with the theme of unique chagre for lobotomy ego equipment

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don has rupture and sinking but isnt really an id for either but rodya could possible be a sinking id

silver osprey
#

And she has a really good charge generation ego

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I think she probably has better sinking application than Dieci Rodion

slow raft
#

it looks like that, unless all the numbers are like

#

1

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honestly looks like you want to keep rodyas sp in the negatives

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effects just seem more favourable in that state, but ig its less reliable

long tree
#

Saiba

mortal iron
#

Where did she get drugs

silver osprey
#

Wtf are Raidian's summons lmao

mental acorn
#

gunL๐ŸŸ

rapid bough
#

dream is dead, 1% summer doro banner

slow raft
rapid bough
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looks like they're gonna keep doing these recruitment event paths for specifically pilgrim/1% banners

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no doubt in an attempt to get people to burn tickets on them instead of just save golden tickets

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but i guess it's also something nice for people who have to pull since they don't have mileage

lusty egret
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Oh hey I rolled Dozle Zabi owo

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JEEZUS DOZLE HAS HIGHER MELEE STATS THAN UR SETSUNA

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Owait I miscalculate, it's almost

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But still larger than general SSR character

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Also if SSR chara isn't capped to lv 90, it definitely can surpass it

long tree
mental acorn
#

hell yeah gambling

rapid bough
runic ether
#

has to just be preload data

#

a 4th fire stunner would be insane

silver osprey
#

Pretty easy map

late canopy
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Oh dang

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A+

rapid bough
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he's got the same energy as lighter too, inb4 physical+electric buffer or some headass shit

maiden veldt
rapid bough
#

we'll see if i stick with it after

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i didn't realize they added a 100% rate-up banner, last time i played they only had the standard 50/50 hoyoslop (with the same rates and currency -> pull conversion too)

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so that's pretty blessed

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the rate on the 100% banner is much lower for individual pulls (i think 0.1% vs 0.6%), but ofc you're guaranteed to get the character and pity is at 100 pulls (with hoyo soft pity starting before at ~85 i think as well) so it's a much more predictable 80-90 pulls to get characters

runic ether
#

what is going on with seed

glossy latch
#

Probably just because that category has only had male characters so far

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Also damn I swear the last echo always takes longer to build than all the others

#

Im almost tempted to just keep it even if it doesnt roll CR

long tree
#

Welp umamusume gave no maintence gems for scout being down 0/10 greediest game ever

slow raft
old galleon
#

mfw people in various communities bitching about 1% summer nikke when it was trending that way for the last several months

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(quoted comment was from back in april)

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like idk why so many people are surprised

#

the minute half anni had 2 pilgrim banners to reinforce what anni started last year, this is how it was always gonna end up going

#

if not summer, then some other seasonal, but summer doro is a money printer

old galleon
#

think about it this way

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if og doro was 1%, why would they not make doro in a swimsuit 1%

#

such is the nature of the beast

rapid bough
old galleon
#

i don't see time limited status or permanence as being relevant to the point

#

i know that, ideally, it probably should be

rapid bough
#

evidently it's not to them

old galleon
#

but shift up is trying to make money

rapid bough
#

but it sucks that it's not

#

i really don't buy the money argument

#

i mean it's obviously the reality

#

but i feel like it could be made for so many things in the game that they chose NOT to do

old galleon
#

well sure, i don't necessarily think money is the only factor

rapid bough
#

like from the jump they have one of the most generous gacha systems in the business

old galleon
#

generous by gacha standards

#

that's what we gotta remember

rapid bough
#

yes, in the business

old galleon
#

at the end of the day, the system is still predatory

rapid bough
#

yes

#

i'm not making any point about the overarching system (it sucks and we are all slaves to dopamine)

#

just that "well... money" ignores the reality that lower rates has obviously not been their MO to make money

old galleon
#

would it have been great if they factored in time limited seasonal status and bumped up her rates to compensate? absolutely

#

and i'd be metaphorically singing their praises for doing it

old galleon
#

which is apparently being reprised here

#

they seem to be signaling that they want people rolling on these banners specifically instead of just hoarding mileage

#

combined with the 2x pilgrims from anni and half anni

#

w/o spending, that mileage is gonna dry up a lot faster than it would have before, no?

#

like yeah, the gacha skins are clearly one of their main forms of monetization, along with the promise of materials to speed up progress

#

but i think it's a bit too forgiving to look at the trends from the last 9 or so months and not at least suspect that they're pursuing a more aggressive form of monetizing the gacha too

rapid bough
old galleon
#

all of which is to say "well...money" seems to me to have a bit more weight now than it would have before

wispy goblet
#

Counterbalance
The limited-time vouchers do also give mileage
So we are obtaining mileage faster than previously too

rapid bough
#

though i do think it ignores the other ways they're being more generous

#

new 100% molds upcoming, pilgrim wishlist being the most obvious

old galleon
rapid bough
old galleon
#

there's no increase, it's just sustaining the previous rate of acquisition

rapid bough
#

you get the same amount of total pulls

wispy goblet
#

They're running two events at once, though
Is that normal for them?

rapid bough
#

no i'm pretty sure this is the first time they've done that

#

hence the limited vouchers

old galleon
#

this is their second experiment with collab rerun after eva

#

but eva 1 was added alongside eva 2

#

whereas nier doens't have a second equivalent right now

wispy goblet
#

So ye
We are earning double vouchers (even if half of them are limited-time) and double mileage currently

old galleon
#

but i owuldn't be surprised for this to be the precedent setter in case they ever rerun re zero or whatever

old galleon
rapid bough
old galleon
#

speaking of, would not recommend using mileage on these ones unless you really like them

#

i managed to snipe a2 with just the collab tickets so i get to use her new swimsuit skin whenever i get to 21 ogins

#

but i wouldn't advocating using mileage on her just for that

#

gameplay-wise they seem outdated for most purposes, idek where i'd fit them in for solo raid

#

but imagine they rerun re:zero, where emilia seems to be pvp core

#

that's where mileage pressure might ramp up

rapid bough
#

for my part, i'm a collector so i would not allow a collab unit to escape my grasp even if it was worse than crow

old galleon
#

emt

summer hornet
#

ไผ่ชฌใจใ—ใฆ่ชžใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹็จ‹ใฎๅ‰ฃๆŠ€ใ€ๅŠŸ็ธพใ‚’่ช‡ใ‚ŠใชใŒใ‚‰ๅใ‚’ๆŠนๆถˆใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅฅณใจใ€
ๆญดๅฒใซๅใ‚’ๅˆปใ‚€ไบ‹ใชใใ€ใŸใ ๅช็ฎกใซๆŠ€ใ‚’็ฃจใ็ถšใ‘ใŸ็”ทใ€‚ ๅ…จใฆใ‚’ๅ‰ฃใซๆงใ’ใŸไบŒไบบใฎไป•ๅˆใฎๅ‹ๆ•—ใ‚„ๅฆ‚ไฝ•ใซโ€ฆโ€ฆ

ใจใ„ใ†ใ€Œ็พŽใ—ใๅคขใจ่–ๆฏใ€ใฎใƒฏใƒณใ‚ทใƒผใƒณใ‚’ๆใ‹ใ›ใฆ้ ‚ใใพใ—ใŸ๏ผ
ใ€ŽๅดฉๅฃŠ๏ผšใ‚น...

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Just another swallow

old galleon
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team rocket theme intensifies

versed pawn
#

all i hear is Bakushin

slow raft
astral drift
runic ether
#

very forward of u astra

#

she has weapon models but u know how i know she wont be playable? no visible armpits and her legs are covered

versed pawn
#

Can 2 days not come faster so I can finally pull

silver osprey
#

14.5 10 pulls in total now

#

Surely I can at least get a LB1 Kitasan Copium

long tree
#

Im at 1.7

silver osprey
#

I want to pull to get statues to 3 star Maya... but at the same time, have to resist the urge

silver osprey
long tree
#

Oh shit i mean 17

wispy goblet
#

do not say it

old galleon
#

gao

runic ether
slow raft
astral drift
old galleon
#

censoring the word "slap"

astral drift
#

Plap

old galleon
#

maybe if cock mage gave her one : ^)

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Was checking my folder to find fgo screens and was reminded that this exists lmao

versed pawn
#

Can't they remove late starts from career mode like what's the purpose of them other them draining your clocks

silver osprey
#

Lore accurate

#

Also to tempt people into buying the focus skill ig

versed pawn
#

I mean it's okay in pvp to have a bit of rng so they skill may have a use there

#

Just think it's a terrible mechanic in career mode since it drains resources

late canopy
#

Horse is a game of maximizing your chance at good rng but never being able to drop the chance of being screwed by the game to improbable levels and living with everything that entails

turbid olive
#

This cat is so babyface:

summer hornet
#

Positively horrid ADHD nightmare of a stage

turbid olive
#

tf? Why is this cat more realistic than the other one? kek

old galleon
#

you should be able to get caught up relatively easily

rapid bough
#

this character has a minigun and their skill puts up a transparent wall that makes you do bonus damage if you shoot through it

#

for every boss fight, i literally sat in one place, put up the wall, and held LMB until the boss died

#

this ain't it chief

#

not all characters are that braindead but it's representative of the sort of combat experience this game gives

versed pawn
#

Does Uma also do like pull events

#

Like in BA where they gives like a daily 10 pull

summer hornet
#

I always have a blast in the event stories though, I canโ€™t explain it

runic ether
#

watching cerydra get jiaoqiu'd in real time

#

her mains sub is gonna crash out lmfao

#

and hysilens gets raw buffs

wispy goblet
#

spent like three hours trying to do Level 30 of the limited-time tower
don't think I can close that gap
unfortunate

rapid bough
#

caesar is a huge crutch for tower content because it's where her defensive utility really shines

#

that content can be hella brutal without her

#

doable, but you need pretty optimized characters and even more optimal play

wispy goblet
#

I've gotten semi-consistent at beating phase one
if I can dodge the sword I can make some progress into phase two
but I can't play that tight for that long

summer hornet
wispy goblet
#

well
now I'm hours late on my Nikke dailies

summer hornet
#

Phainon really is the 3.0 Acheron ig

glossy latch
runic ether
#

she just got a buff that is so exclusive for phainon it may as well have just said "if phainon is this skill's target..."

glossy latch
#

Oh yeah I saw

#

E1 being Phainon only too is hilarious as well

#

Hysilens looks to be better in triple DoT at least

#

Guess I'm pulling for Hysilens

#

Maybe I get lucky and get Cerydra for Phainon as well

rapid bough
#

thanks for reminding me skipper, i stopped at floor 30 when this first released since it was the last with actual rewards i cared about

#

some of those later floors were royal pains in the ass

#

floor 45 is motorcycle pompey which is SO fucking annoying when all his damage is juiced like 1000%

#

he does damage when he hits you with his motorcycle while he's moving around

#

in any other setting it's minor damage, more meant to stagger you than anything

#

but in this mode it takes like fucking 3/4 of your HP

glossy latch
#

Zzzs new patch is tomorrow right?

rapid bough
#

yeah

glossy latch
#

Neat

rapid bough
#

think maintenance starts in around 15 hours (6pm for me) and lasts for ~5 hours after that

#

so it's sorta at the end of tomorrow but w/e, the day ends when i sleep, not at midnight lol

glossy latch
#

True!

runic ether
#

"Please Read Before Watching: Photosensitive Epilepsy Warning

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โ–ถ Play video
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ik what they are

slow raft
long tree
#

Fellas kaisin black is tomorrow so be prepared and god have mercy

late canopy
slow raft
#

Surely ill be fine

late canopy
#

Im worried cuz I had ungodly luck in both BA and TW horse yesterday

#

I maxed the card I wanted in tw horse in 200 pulls

#

And also got 6 rateups in 200 pulls in BA

#

100 pulls in she was already 3lb

idle grove
long tree
slow raft
#

Frankly embarassing

rapid bough
#

summer doro skills

#

seems pretty nutty

wispy goblet
#

just self DPS buffs

rapid bough
#

she is quite a selfish character :^)

#

i'm curious how this will fit into SG team though

#

bunny soda is currently necessary in all SG teams for extending burst to 15 sec (which synergizes with doro, her burst buffs last 15 sec after all)

#

so if the numbers are good enough (they look like they are), who's getting replaced? drake?

#

i think it's more likely they add healing to tove via FI and then the SG team can run three B3s, with drake off-burst since her buffs for the team are all still active even without bursting

old galleon
toxic cloud
#

Good morning agnes seventh tachyon fans

old galleon
#

s doro got her kit revealed, so good morning dorothy fans i guess

rapid bough
#

imo either they give tove treasure CDR (unlikely), or they give her healing so running a support b2 is no longer necessary and you start running tove/leona/s.doro/bunny soda/drake

#

tbh i hope they don't give her CDR mostly because i think it's novel that a team can exist that isn't railroaded into needing CDR

slow raft
#

Seeing archer hold a sword like that feels very weird im ngl
https://x.com/mashu_003/status/1945045749173297152

ใ€ŒๅดฉๅฃŠ๏ผšใ‚นใ‚ฟใƒผใƒฌใ‚คใƒซใ€ใจใ€ŒFate/stay nightใ€ใฎใ‚ณใƒฉใƒœใŠ็ฅใ„ใ‚คใƒฉใ‚นใƒˆๆใ‹ใ›ใฆใ„ใŸใ ใใพใ—ใŸ๏ผ๏ผ
่ถ…ๅฌ‰ใ—ใ„ใงใ™๏ผ๏ผ
ๅคงๅž‹ใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒˆใƒซๅŒๅฃซใฎใ‚ณใƒฉใƒœใซ้ฉšใใพใ—ใŸ๏ผใŠใ‚ใงใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™๏ผ

long tree
#

Fellas is kaisin black in like 7 hours or 31 hours idr

idle grove
#

kitasan will be some time tomorrow

slow raft
#

Dear Doctor,

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Limited headhunting so all arknights players who are inactive rember to get your free pulls

old galleon
rapid bough
#

i guess, but SG team is SG team because of the insane buffs so hard to imagine a new premium SG unit not making use of those buffs

maiden veldt
#

My gssr.

silver osprey
#

First A rank

late canopy
silver osprey
#

(She got awful sparks)

late canopy
#

Good job

silver osprey
#

Danke

slow raft
long tree
#

Do i keep at it?

silver osprey
#

22.8k now

glossy latch
#

God how I wish HSR would also do this

#

Let me get Robin without her downside

slow raft
runic ether
#

wow the archer class is really made up of arch-

long tree
#

Im running low on trophies to farm

summer hornet
#

That said.... As much as I love him, I dunno if this is a fight worth picking

old galleon
#

albert: more!

#

ax really needs to give the fgo panels more time; 80 minutes is obviously not enough

#

that or if it's fgo people requesting the time duration, they need to do a better job of it

old galleon
#

more!

long tree
#

Nah im at hard pity now

#

Im done

old galleon
#

which game is this for anyway?

#

don't immediately recognize the currency

#

font almost reminds me of ba but idr if you play that

digital marlin
#

im guessing uma musume

old galleon
#

oh is that what its currency looks like?

digital marlin
#

its kinda shaped like a carrot

long tree
#

Carrots from umamusume

digital marlin
#

Ay

old galleon
#

aight

long tree
#

The card to get is releasing tomorrow

#

So i had to work to farm to guarantee it

mortal iron
#

farm for me jot blobcatknife

long tree
#

Literally just train honses and check the race tab every day for races you havent got the trophy for that your honse can do

mortal iron
#

but i dont wanna

copper steppe
#

i will find and kill whoever was responsible for the relic systems

digital marlin
#

personally i blame Epic 7

idle grove
#

iirc the first game with it was like dragon something

#

not dragon quest but idk

#

ah dragon collection

versed pawn
#

There's worse systems

#

Like the super old Korean ones

#

Where upgrading can fail

#

Or even destroy your weapon

digital marlin
mortal iron
versed pawn
#

No

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Tho woundt know one used to play elsword back then I guess

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On another note how many hours until the banner is up

digital marlin
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For ZZZ it should be around 6 hours

versed pawn
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Ah Uma

slow raft
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@rapid bough how good is sora? can i just afford to not pull her or is she really good

rapid bough
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borderline useless

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easy skip

slow raft
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thank god

old galleon
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super easy skip unless you like her character, and even then i'd say wait for wishlist

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if doro compels you, go for her instead : ^)

mortal iron
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Damn this thunderbolts hard stage got hands

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It takes 3 entries to kill the dude

slow raft
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Tomorrow is kitasan black, the day after that is walpurgisnacht and arknights anni, and the day after that is fgo summer.
What a packed fucking schedule

old galleon
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also nikke summer

slow raft
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Oh and new zzz patch

rapid bough
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true apocalypse for people who play entirely too many gacha games

old galleon
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me when summer

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tho at least gbf isn't on free draws right now

slow raft
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I could cut down the gachas i play by half and probably still be playing to many, realistically

rapid bough
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i could cut down all but 1 and it'd still be too many

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i've been thinking about making some cuts since i want to have time to play actual games (not to mention that, while i don't struggle for money, i'm definitely dumping more than i should into these god-forsaken games)

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which i say and then of course i start up snowbreak again the other day to make it 6 gachas instead of 5

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๐Ÿ™ƒ

slow raft
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Yeah im thinking ill probably be cutting nikke after summer and then put one of the hoyos on the backburner

rapid bough
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nikke was my first and it will likely be the last i ever cut

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in "most likely to cut to least likely" mine are probably snowbreak > brown dust 2 > azur lane > gfl2 > zzz > nikke

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and yes i am gathering the infinity stones of horni

long tree
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I mean lost origin is getting a western release if you want to go full degen

rapid bough
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surprisingly i do not

glossy latch
slow raft
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For me its probablynsomething like
Nikke>Hsr>zzz>fgo>arknights>limbus company
Uma is to new for me to judge it accurately

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Depends on how many copies i get of kitasan black, clearly

glossy latch
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How do yall even have any free time

slow raft
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Beleive it or not

rapid bough
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i actually have plenty, i just spend it all playing gacha games lol

slow raft
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These games dont take up a significant amount of my time

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I can do dailies for them on my phone or in another window while im doing something productive

rapid bough
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yeah tbh except for when major story patches release or i purposely go down some sort of optimization rabbit hole for raid/endgame content, most of my games are like 15 mins max per day

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with the exception of azur lane since it requires more constant maintenance

slow raft
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Part of the reason why im unsure about uma since the dailies take so long if you want to do it seriously

wispy goblet
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My three gacha games right now are Nikke, ZZZ, and Master Duel

rapid bough
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i've actually thought about getting back into master duel somewhat recently

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but then i remember i hate playing digital YGO

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the thought of playing YGO appeals to me more than actually playing it, especially digitally

wispy goblet
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I don't play regularly enough to grind gems
So I gotta open da walleta

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Pulling for Master Duel alt arts was wildly more frustrating than anything I've experienced in Nikke or ZZZ

digital marlin
rapid bough
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yeah the worst part of playing a gacha game is starting a gacha game lmao

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when there's content to catch up on + timegating

digital marlin
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The issue is when you have too much free time and see another gacha that starts to interest you or and old one starts dragging you back in

rapid bough
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yep, me with snowbreak literally just the other day

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like, "oh i'm caught up and just in maintenance mode in all my other gachas, what do i now, oooh shiny"

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then a week or two later when new content releases in several of your other gacha games simultaneously, you remember what a massive fuckup that decision was

wispy goblet
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I'm playing a lot of ZZZ right now
But I'm enjoying the combat
and need to grind mats

rapid bough
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yeah you really speedran the story recently that was quite impressive lol

slow raft
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Speaking of speedrunning the story

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I did both of the epilouge chapters and the season 2 content in the last 3 days and i gotta say

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Kinda eh overall

rapid bough
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i really really liked epilogue 1

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i was kinda meh on epilogue 2

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and i thought 2.0 story was fairly decent

slow raft
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I liked vivians part of it, im not that high on hugo and his part and yixuan i dont really have a solid opinion on

digital marlin
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I liked the epilogue it was decent
2.0 was alright but nothing to noteworthy

slow raft
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2.0 did alot of introducing and not enough setup for the "payoff" to make me feel anything

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Do like the aesthetics tho

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Somewhat related but i also did gravity cinema and that i was really suprised by how much i could recognize miyabis va in that

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Like more than usual

runic ether
rapid bough
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entirely too much character-relevant content is only available outside of the game

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and a lot of it functions as setup that the in-game story just assumes you know

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i thought yixuan's arc in 2.0 hit the correct notes but i had also watched her like 8 minute backstory anime cinematic lol

runic ether
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they should do the hsr thing

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those animated shorts are now in-game for star rail

rapid bough
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yeah idk why they don't do that honestly

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especially since they obviously put so much effort into them

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why not show them off everywhere

runic ether
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grandfathered in from genshin and hi3rd

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but zzz (like hsr) would benefit a lot from them

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also zzz should add the eps in-client

slow raft
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Yeah im simply never gonna watch a video outside of the client

idle grove
slow raft
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If its important they will tell me in game

runic ether
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even if she's a girl, please let us walk around like potemkin

slow raft
runic ether
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giving props to jiaoqiu tho at least he pretends to care about dot

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cerydra only cares about phainon

glossy latch
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Was JQ meant to be for DoT?

long tree
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JQ mentioned, dropping acheron mains depiction of him

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Nah im not actually cause i dont like looking at him either

slow raft
digital marlin
slow raft
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Mega fisto>>>>

glossy latch
runic ether
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but he has dot useage and his e2 is dot goated

slow raft
mortal iron
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2 bums in the bloodline, a gambler and an oomfie

slow raft
copper steppe
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ogey im done with fate event

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i'll be fully honest, i feel disapointed

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it feels like a regular hsr event and i think thats problem

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it doesn't feel like a collab event

glossy latch
slow raft
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look your gf isnt in this chat, someone has to call you out

honest pawn
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where's unovven's gf

slow raft
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not in this chat

copper steppe
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gacha players have relationships?

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the internet lied to me

runic ether
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who could have guessed

copper steppe
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shocker i know

slow raft
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there are several frequent chatters in here who have/had relationships

copper steppe
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truly mindblowing

glossy latch
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I'm pretty sure it's like half the regulars

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Tho idk about Khaios

slow raft
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half sounds about right

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not me tho, what with the whole being aro and all KEKW

glossy latch
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That can always change nyaruhodo

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Actually can an aro person be in a relationship?

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I've never thought about it before

long tree
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Yeah

slow raft
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yeah but im not going to for the forseeable future

long tree
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Literal sociopaths that cannot feel any emotions can be in relationships too

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You can be in a relationship for convienence, because you value the person but dont love them, etc. So long as the other person is made aware and is fine with it and has no illusions anything will change then its perfectly valid

glossy latch
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Nyaruhodo

slow raft
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there are also benefits for being married specifically even if you dont love the other person romantically

long tree
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Being married for tax purposes is a thing that happens sometimes

glossy latch
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Yes I'm well aware of marriage fraud

slow raft
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unlike doofenschmirtz from the second dimension, who is divorced for various reasons

long tree
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Also stops people nagging you about it

glossy latch
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That may or may not have been the plan once

mortal iron
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Also like to get a green card

astral drift
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help me put together a team to farm gems for rio

slow raft
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Finally farmed enough bond om saber alter to get append 1

old galleon
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isn't append 1 the extra attack one?

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pretty sure that's the one she needs the least

slow raft
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Yeah i mistyped

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Because append 1 is the number 1 in my heart

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Obvs i did np loading so i can loop at some point

old galleon
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ye mana loading is good civ

slow raft
old galleon
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both of them firing projectiles at their enemies to the tune of some track by kalafina

wispy goblet
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If a party member faints in ZZZ, do the bonus passives still apply?

rapid bough
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"bonus passive"?

astral drift
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wtf you're not rio

versed pawn
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Your observation skills are on point

wispy goblet
# rapid bough "bonus passive"?

the bonus passive from core
like
if all my supports and NEPS units die, does Zhu Yuan still get bonus crit chance after her EX, chain, and ult?

rapid bough
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no idea

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i would guess the answer is yes since nothing in the wording implies the squad members still need to be alive

wispy goblet
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hmm

rapid bough
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could probably fire up a simple test to find out for sure tho

wispy goblet
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do we know what attribute Alice (in ZZZ) is

rapid bough
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physical anomaly

wispy goblet
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gotcha

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mildly wishing I had Burnice

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guess Ben/Yuzuha/Grace will have to do

rapid bough
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do what clearly

wispy goblet
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no damage yessDoroSit

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this is the strat
we use Yuzuha to improve Ben's Fire build so we can proc the Inferno Metal disc bonus crit rate

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And then we use Grace to enable Ben's and Yuzuha's bonus passives

digital marlin
rapid bough
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surely if they'd replaced her they would've used that phrasing

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so this means she still has her original VA

wispy goblet
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chat asking for a friend
do any of the Attack-class characters in ZZZ have good supporting kits

rapid bough
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"good"? no not really

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hugo is probably the closest and even he's not a support, he's just only on field during stun windows to do a shitton of burst, end stun, then leave

wispy goblet
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I figured
a hassle, to be sure, but expected

rapid bough
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why ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

wispy goblet
# rapid bough why ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

Ju Fufu needs an Attack or Rupture class to trigger her bonus passive
one of the few characters that doesn't get a bonus from shared attribute or faction

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I could do Evelyn/Ben/Ju Fufu
but I don't have Evelyn
also that wouldn't really fit on-field Ben

rapid bough
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stop trying to make ben work

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or at least

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stop trying to do it when you have like 4 limited chars and an equal number of level 60s

runic ether
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do what ben mains do

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astra lighter

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or lighter/lucy

wispy goblet
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I'm about to pull for Miyabi and Yuzuha
relax
it's a long-term project sort of thing

rapid bough
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i see ben/lighter/lucy from ben mains for sure

runic ether
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nicole works too ig but

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yeah lighter/lucy/ben

rapid bough
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my point is that you're either rushing to get him working (don't do that)

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or it's such a long-term thing that whatever team you could conjure up now won't ultimately be the team you use with him

wispy goblet
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nah this is just theorycrafting

rapid bough
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lighter is objectively the best secondary squadmate to ben

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as he is for basically all non-anomaly fire agents

runic ether
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and ice agents

rapid bough
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after that just plug in a support of your choice tbh

runic ether
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beisdes miyabi tough if u could u would

wispy goblet
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considering pulling for Miyabi's wengine if I have pulls left over

runic ether
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uhh

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yeah probs a good idea

rapid bough
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if it's "left over" after miyabi and yuzuha, yes that's worth

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don't prioritize it over getting the agents tho

wispy goblet
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ye ye

runic ether
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^

wispy goblet
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actually I will core 5 Miyabi's wengine then pull for Miyabi

rapid bough
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based!

runic ether
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thats whale talk right htere

wispy goblet
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also
I didn't realize the double monochromes in the store were a one-time bonus
holy
immensely bad value

rapid bough
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god help me if i ever feel compelled to pull for a weapon dupe

rapid bough
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i.e. they just reset a month ago

wispy goblet
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wow once per year
immense savings

runic ether
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i will be e6ing acheron in hsr but i will not get dupes of her lightcone

rapid bough
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for occasional spenders it's fine value

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for whales it's just bait lol

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but whales are gonna whale regardless of the initial double value