#Gacha Chat

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glossy latch
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Personality-wise Im probably most fond of Billy

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Hes just a nerd

runic ether
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i fucking love billy

glossy latch
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5* Billy when?

runic ether
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when he brings out his old treads

rapid bough
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nicole is very much a case of "the front she puts on is annoying even if i know she is not purely money-motivated, or at least she's always money-motivated for the right reasons"

runic ether
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lighter too

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shit fuck like

long tree
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Billy is like deadpool if he was just stupid for love of the game

runic ether
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burnice too

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goober

rapid bough
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the sons of calydon other than lucy have exactly one brain cell to share between them

runic ether
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lucy has 1 brain cell

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she just holds it for the rest

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lucy is great too

glossy latch
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Piper doesnt seem that bad

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Just tired

runic ether
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piper is super chill. i like piper. not to the point of "waifu or wife" but she is a fun personality

rapid bough
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yeah piper's just fun

long tree
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Burnice is probably the result of huffing burning fumes for too long but she's happy

rapid bough
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real question, do we know if she's actually old or is it just a bit

runic ether
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we know shes older

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but shes not actually ancient

old galleon
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tbf this describes a solid chunk of the playable nikkes

rapid bough
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i mean yeah i figured

runic ether
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she just had to work from a super young age

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she is mentally tired and older

long tree
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I mean she has a drivers licence at least

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Idk if its real

runic ether
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it is

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she gets it from pub sec

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and she was renewing it

rapid bough
runic ether
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a trucker license too

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so she's def on the older end of the cast

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p sure in china u need to be a min age of 25 to drive the kind of truck she does

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and she was renewing it

old galleon
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"down awful" and "death by snu snu" are a bit different imo

runic ether
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of course, new eridu isnt actually china but we see a lot of parallels on what they tax and license and shit

rapid bough
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well i said she was too down awful because she's in that "death by snu snu" range

rapid bough
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this is also why some of the AL fan favorites don't appeal to me quite as much

long tree
rapid bough
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like mogador and taihou

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there's a limit to how down bad characters get before it's offputting lol

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i actually find it kinda funny that canonically in ZZZ it feels like trigger is the most down bad of the entire cast, maybe tied with vivian

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our resident confirmed proxy stalkers

long tree
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I got a thing where red flags are green flags if they meet one of my three categories

runic ether
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vivi is more of a fangirl

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trigger tho...

rapid bough
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trigger draws up detailed battle plans just to have an excuse to run into the proxy lol

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and iirc her wengine description confirms she basically stalks the proxies

runic ether
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yea

long tree
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God forbid women have hobbies

rapid bough
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(but lovingly stalks so it's ok)

runic ether
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and like, okay it makes some sense she is keeping an eye on us (lol) but god damn

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i do like trigger though

rapid bough
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i absolutely love trigger

runic ether
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she could have been edgy

rapid bough
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it sucks i was in a position where i couldn't pull for her when she ran

runic ether
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but i like how down to earth she is

rapid bough
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she's absolute wife material

runic ether
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yeah same

long tree
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Trigger i cant decide if her being a goober is more or less attractive

rapid bough
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before yixuan, trigger probably was my second favorite char in ZZZ

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behind eve ofc

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and she still might be. again, yixuan has recency bias on her side

wispy goblet
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based on my favorite ZZZ characters
people may assume I have a type

rapid bough
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also trigger's battle theme absolutely fucking slaps so she's got that going for her which is nice

long tree
runic ether
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oh absolutely

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her theme is good

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i enjoyed the scene of her taking 11 on a date too

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anby not knowing how to respond to that was funny

rapid bough
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the close of s11/sanby's storyline kinda put a bad taste in my mouth

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it feels like anby and trigger are just left to consistently gaslight her and that's kinda shit

runic ether
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oh absolutely

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but its part of the reason i liked it

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anby is a super flawed person/character

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and trigger is too respectful to disagree with anby on it

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it characterizes them both well and it will very likely cause problems in the future

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as anby continues running away from her responsibility

rapid bough
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i mean yeah it's in character for anby (unfortunately) but i'm not sure i agree on the trigger front

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trigger can anbsolutely go to bat for those she cares about

runic ether
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mhm

rapid bough
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and by any metric she had more reason to prevent purposely memory holing s11 than anby did, since she still works with s11 lol

runic ether
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but, we know she knows enough (now) to let go. and hasnt been afraid to keep up white lies

runic ether
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she has as much reason or more

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since 11 was targeted internally

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and she knows her

rapid bough
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hasnt been afraid to keep up white lies
ok but this is not a white lie lol

runic ether
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she knows that 11 would still accept the missions anyways

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i think the whole of it will def bite them in the ass as we get more obol squad development

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especially with magus and seed

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magus is the leader, currently tied to orphie

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and if magus' goal remains the same as the internal docs

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she'll be rightfully pissed as fuck at both of them

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should lead to an inevitable clash

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which im wondering how it'll be handled for orphie

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my guess: she can possess orphie

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and as she is the commander, learning of the gaslighting they have been doing on 11

rapid bough
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idk i'm not sure i have the same confidence they'll handle all that "properly" (as in, treat it as the bad thing that it is) that you do

runic ether
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especially with sanby not actually being a squad member

rapid bough
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i see where they can go with it but it sure feels to me like it was just a forced reversion to the status quo just because of weird timeline shit they didn't want to deal with

runic ether
rapid bough
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i didn't get that vibe at all tbh

runic ether
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like the quest basically was anby realizing she has to eventually face this

rapid bough
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the game was very matter of fact about it

runic ether
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but she didnt want to yet

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and ran away again

rapid bough
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like "YEP GASLIGHT" then story over

runic ether
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anby and 11 are basically the 2 poster characters used in marketing

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their story are not done at all

rapid bough
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i'm not saying it's done

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i'm saying i don't have faith they'll handle it as well as you hope lol

runic ether
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and with how hi3rd's story has handled heavier topics, i think they will do okay

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could even be great

rapid bough
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ZZZ storytelling quality has been on a pretty significant downward trend ever since the loss of TV mode imo so

runic ether
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its been okay

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i am glad they didnt conclude it there and it seems they wont conclude it soon

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since it'll give them time to get back up to skill with the storytelling post-tv

rapid bough
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it can still be okay when they focus on one thing but when it gets complex shit falls apart real quick

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that's a big reason why part 1 of the epilogue to season 1 was better than part 2

runic ether
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for sure

rapid bough
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it was mostly all about mockingbird/hugo/etc.

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part 2 tried to do way too much at once and everything sorta suffered for it

runic ether
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story in 2.0 so far has been a bit too distracted but i do expect it to get better

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i havent finished 2.0 story

rapid bough
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i haven't even started it lol

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plan to do so tomorrow

runic ether
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ultimately tho, i have seen hoyo in other games, do good by more complex topics and stories

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and have good payoffs over time

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so i have some trust on them delivering with anby and 11 conflict

rapid bough
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on the flipside i feel like i've already seen them drop the ball with reasonably important character beats so far like the entire vivi/dina arc and, being real, everything to do with bringer and how they just sorta forgor zhu yuan's close personal ties to him

runic ether
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yeah but that was also part of that rushed feeling in 1.6 and 1.7 as a whole

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really should have waited on that

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the whole exaltists

rapid bough
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right but that's kinda what i'm saying with the downward trend in storytelling quality

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everything's felt kinda rushed honestly since 1.4

runic ether
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for sure

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i do agree with it

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they did a good job with astra and eve

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but it was largely its own thing

rapid bough
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again, because they spent time actually focusing on it

runic ether
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when it was tied to the rest, it was too quick

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imo, again, i have seen them do good in their other games and their longterms

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and a lot of that can be waved away for being too soon after losing tv and wanting their cake and eating it too

rapid bough
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it's been a trend for long enough that i'm not sure it can be waved away anymore

runic ether
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if 2.x patches still fail in that sense, thats when the worry would set in

rapid bough
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hell the idle dialogue lines during roaming sessions are STILL stupidly slow lol

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how long have they had to fix that

runic ether
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mhm

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that said, it may be a part of code jumbling for that

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again, i'm willing to give benefit of doubt given their other games/history

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that said

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genshin story also took a dive in this exact same time as zzz

rapid bough
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perhaps, but i'm also sure those other games also have story beats they miss on too lol

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can't nail it every time

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which is fine, not everything needs to knock it out of the park (and indeed it's almost better that it doesn't, since some things need build up to really shine)

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just saying i'm a bit dubious about the direction of the storytelling in ZZZ atm

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emphasis on the telling part btw. i think the story and characters are fine, but they're not being given the time they need. or at least some parts aren't

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come to think of it the entire "mayor ex machina, surprise proxies now have superpowers" arc is probably the best example of that

runic ether
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mayor is sus as hell

rapid bough
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he absolutely is

glossy latch
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Oh Star Rail leaks suggest were getting another new path

runic ether
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as i said, genshin (and zzz) both started missing on their story beats at the exact same time

glossy latch
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||Elation, and supposedly were getting Sampo as an emanator? God I hope its true, I wanna use Sampo again||

runic ether
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genshin's fall was way worse tho cus the region prior was really damn good

rapid bough
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thus far my favorite gacha story remains nikke

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it's got its problems and sometimes leans too hard into melodrama to the point that it can get a bit eye-rolling

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but when it hits it hits

runic ether
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yeah i feel like that has been genshin for the most part

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only this last region just flopped as a whole

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some really good moments

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but it had some abysmal dogshit points

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that said, limbus company has absolutely mogged the story of the hoyo games and im only in the half way point of the current latest story chapter

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so unless the next 4 chapters i have yet to play through are shit, thats the one i'd rank highest easily

rapid bough
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i don't think nikke has ever reached low points that bad but i know some would disagree with me on that lol, i've seen some people absolutely dump on some of my personal favorite parts of the story (and again i'll emphasize that even my favorite parts of the story are not without issue so it's not unreasonable for opinions to vary)

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for me nikke's story quality oscillates between just mid, good enough to keep me interested but not getting me on the edge of my seat, and actually getting gut wrenching reactions out of me (in the good way)

glossy latch
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Tbh Gacha stories will ever be held back by the fact that theyre, well, in a gacha

rapid bough
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for sure

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there's a cap to how good they can be, but i think nikke's is way up there as far as gachas go

runic ether
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i think limbus so far, not done yet, but that one kind of escapes from it

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the writing is genuinely pretty damn good

rapid bough
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nikke's main and event stories are told more like a VN and that's to its benefit

runic ether
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though this is a gacha game that ppl rag on for not being good at being a gacha

glossy latch
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The medium has inherent flaws when it comes to telling a story (mostly the ever rotating cast of characters)

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Limbus I believe has a small cast and new "units" are just the same characters with new powers?

runic ether
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i think thats def a big reason i've enjoyed limbus yeah

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its only the 12 sinners, vergilius, dante (you), and charon as the main characters

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the gacha system is the ids or idealities of the 12 sinners

rapid bough
runic ether
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genshin can sometimes have that problem, but it was never too bad until natlan

rapid bough
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every character instead just gets their own event, sometimes a sorta slice of life side story, sometimes actually an important world- and character-building event

runic ether
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that though, has helped a lot in zzz where

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it doesnt feel disconnected

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easily my favorite part of the story characterization for zzz

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never feels like we ditch our old friends for the new ones to pull

rapid bough
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i will say that nikke can sorta get to the opposite end of the spectrum of what i was criticizing ZZZ for

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whereas ZZZ feels like it's rushing through things quite often lately

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sometimes nikke can just spend too fucking long

runic ether
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and new eridu's ever growing polycule centered around the goofiest proxies continues adding more members in to it rather than just moving on

rapid bough
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and while the payoffs in those situations are almost always great, the leadup can drag quite a bit

glossy latch
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Star Rail sorta avoids this somewhat since you have a main cast and then the planets you visit

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The only trouble is I'm not sure the main cast is exactly the strongest

runic ether
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for star rail, if you dont end up liking a planet's cast, gg

rapid bough
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nikke definitely keeps a focus on a core main cast with occasional (and usually temporary) additions here and there

glossy latch
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||Maybe they can have Elation Emanator Sampo join the Astral Express||

runic ether
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that whole story section wont be for you

runic ether
runic ether
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main cast + the planet's main cast

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granted, for hsr

glossy latch
runic ether
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welt and himeko have been very underused

runic ether
glossy latch
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True!

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Oh god I had a horrible idea

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||New elation character but its just Persona 4 Adachi||

runic ether
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idk who-

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ah

glossy latch
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Was Himeko even part of the main story on any of the planets?

runic ether
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yeah i dont really know him besides knowing hes the villain

runic ether
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like silver wolf

glossy latch
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I recall Welt was once

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But Himeko I swear was never a main character

runic ether
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welt was with us on the luofu

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himeko and welt in penacony

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she was more central to the end of penacony

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which was the weaker parts

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she also showed up to handle matters with belobog and the ipc

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she was ready to throw hands with topaz

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man

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i would have loved if himeko came with us to amphoreus

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as i said

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underutilize

glossy latch
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God Penacony could've been so good

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But 2.2 onwards just kinda was downhill

runic ether
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peak for 2 and a half patches

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im liking amphoreus so far despite it being so wordy

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but it can def be better

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but at least it hasnt hit low points like penacony did

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and we know the story is still ongoing

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we arent just gonna move on next patch

glossy latch
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Penacony was both too short and too rewritten

runic ether
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this could have been really ass if they rushed it

rigid pilot
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Just write out Firefly

runic ether
glossy latch
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Not even the only issue but unironically her getting more attention was an issue yeah

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I also would've preferred the original idea of ||Luka/Watchmaker becoming the villain||

rigid pilot
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I know people liked Penacony as a whole but I really liked the Luofu more

glossy latch
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That one was clearly rewritten quite late

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I think Penacony was by far the more interesting planet

runic ether
glossy latch
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And it had higher highs (2.1)

rapid bough
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ok real question since i know almost nothing about HSR, but enough to know firefly is a fan favorite, and in light of this knowledge i feel obligated to ask: why does everyone here seem to hate her lol

glossy latch
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But the story just kinda fell apart towards the end, and even that one twist doesnt save

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I dont hate her tbh

glossy latch
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But Penacony was clearly rewritten to put more focus on her

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And it doesnt really work

runic ether
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this is how she was originally presented to us

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and then she never develops outside of "is a love interest for the player"

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literally loses all aura

glossy latch
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Eh, Im a Kamen Rider fan, I dont mind the secret identity split, but like

glossy latch
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Yeah it doesnt really mesh with her identity as Sam

rigid pilot
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I just outright hate her

rapid bough
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"is a love interest for the player"
i assume this is a big part of her being a fan favorite too

glossy latch
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A bit?

rigid pilot
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I dislike her voice, I dislike her character

glossy latch
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Again I think she's a fine character, but I would've liked to see more of her Sam side, and I would've especially preferred if she was like

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A side character

rigid pilot
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I knew about the twist because a lot of people have her and I tried her out as a friend unit but wow the twist sucked too

glossy latch
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Have her get her own little story as a substory that barely intersects with the main story

rigid pilot
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If it was separate from the rest, maybe.

glossy latch
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Like the Hunt March event

rigid pilot
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Also infuriating: the whole forced date in the sequence to try and get into the theater

glossy latch
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Inversely, Luka needed to be way more focused in the story because with him being written out, the core mystery also got largely written out, and that made Penacony far less interesting

rigid pilot
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She's the only character I dislike in HSR so far.

rigid pilot
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Luka did get his own quest

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With the Wardance

runic ether
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im p sure ovven means misha

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but yea

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watchmaker not being a/the villain def hurts it

glossy latch
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... oh yeah I meant Misha

runic ether
glossy latch
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Idk why I kept saying Luka

rigid pilot
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Uhh

wispy goblet
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idly
while we're on gacha stories
should I start the Season 2 story even though I'm not finished with Chapter 1 yet

rigid pilot
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I recently got to the point where I got to the Time Titan

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Honestly Amphoreus is a bit slow to start but I'm liking it so far

rapid bough
glossy latch
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Like Misha was originally meant to be a big plot focus, thats also why he has those keyhole eyes (and a version in the files with different eyes) but nope, that was all cut

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In the end Penacony just kinda limps to a finish that ends up with literally no part of what you did in the chapters prior mattering

rapid bough
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the first 3 chapters are sort of a mishmash of introducing 3 main factions (cunning hares, belobog industries, victoria housekeeping respectively)

runic ether
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acheron basically resolves the end of the story for us and we call it a day

rapid bough
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things start getting more interconnected into a central story progression more after that

rigid pilot
rapid bough
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but there are some overarching plotlines worth following even in the first 3 chapters so idk how much you'd miss by starting c2 "early"

runic ether
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yerr

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shes a raiden mei expy

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who is one of the og 3 characters hoyo launched with

rapid bough
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oh wait you mean ZZZ season 2, with yixuan, not just chapter 2 lol

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season 2's story ain't gonna make any fucking sense without playing through season 1

runic ether
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yea

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maybe just unlock waifei but otherwise

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turn back

rapid bough
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yeah do the waifei introductory bits but don't do main story stuff

glossy latch
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Yeah Hoyo likes having expies of certain characters in other games

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Bronya and Silver Wolf are also expies (of the same character ... sort of)

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As is Seele

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And Himeko and Luocha

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Aaaaand Phainon

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Welt is a bit of an oddity in that he is a character from those other games, but he isnt an expy, hes just literally the same Welt

rigid pilot
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Oh right I do remember that Welt is actually from another universe/game

rigid pilot
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He did kind of stand out

glossy latch
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Yeah, hes from HI3, thats where his powers come from

rigid pilot
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I wonder if he's the same as Welt then because he looks quite different to the rest of the cast

glossy latch
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Phainon is an expy of a character who is not only massive spoilers to his games, but where explaining his role in that game risks spoilering his role in this game

rigid pilot
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Don't answer that if it matters

runic ether
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yea just keep playing

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cant really tell u about his og form yet

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it is however

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pretty peak

glossy latch
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Oh yeah Sushang is also randomly an expy

runic ether
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in hi3rd

runic ether
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and anaxagoras

glossy latch
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Oh and Natasha

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Wait Anaxa?

runic ether
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technically, cipher too

runic ether
glossy latch
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... oh for fucks sake

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I just got it

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||Amphoreus is just a bunch of HI3rd references isnt it||

runic ether
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it

glossy latch
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||Theyre based on the 13 Flame-Chasers||

runic ether
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is literally a retelling of the hi3rd flamechase journey

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the devs said as much

wispy goblet
runic ether
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cipher = pardofelis
anaxa = su
||phainon = kevin||
||cyrene = elysia||

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||mydei = kalpas||

wispy goblet
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it's not going away, right?

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I don't gotta rush it?

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might do it even if it's not
but

rigid pilot
rapid bough
runic ether
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i havent played but i caught up with the stor

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story

rigid pilot
glossy latch
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Hold on if you have, I do have one thing I was curious about

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||Who is even the main antagonist with part 2?||

runic ether
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part 2 is the one part i havent caught up yet but...

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i'd say that ||ajita and leylah will be the main ones long term||

versed pawn
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Yixuan skin introduces a new mechanic called tigh asmr

rapid bough
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the fact it has sfx for her stockings rubbing together is insane, hoyo going crazy

astral drift
rapid bough
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man the level 10 expansion drill for this gfl2 reset is so much harder than the frenzy drill lmao

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frenzy is supposed to be the challenge difficulty but it has a much more forgiving turn requirement for some reason

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whereas the level 10 one has a brutal turn requirement

runic ether
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i feel like i got mogged

rapid bough
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i used to pray for times like these

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only shame is that woodpecker is a really popular set and because this one has HP% it's only ever usable for yixuan lol

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but still, we take those

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on that note though...

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the one bummer about this is that i'm currently rolling woodpecker for yixuan (obviously) but hoping to get some upgrades for my eve's disks in the process too

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and my disk 1 on eve is already blade & branch godroll

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suffering from success

runic ether
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wao

rapid bough
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i'm seeing conflicting info on whether ether% or hp% is yixuan's best disk 5

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i can only assume that means they're pretty damn close and whichever you get with better substats probably wins

runic ether
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its close yeah

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uhh it also depends on if u get hp% sources elsewhere like wengine

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iirc

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element% is favored a lot bc thats not in substats and sometimes not in all wengines

rapid bough
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i'm prolly gonna end up using the f2p wengine since i can get that to level 5

runic ether
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but hp% helps hit breakpoinrs

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*points

rapid bough
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and f2p has atk%

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BP has hp%

runic ether
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nekomata engine has crit use that

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its only 20% worse than sig

rapid bough
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i do not have a nekomata engine

runic ether
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rip

rapid bough
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if i'd known it was good for yixuan i would've picked it over rina wengine for my guaranteed one lol

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oh well

runic ether
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meh rina wengine is goated in its own right

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unlocking full power rina

rapid bough
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yeah i definitely don't mind having rina's engine

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but i'm farther away from using her than i am yixuan

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so i'd prefer optimal yixuan now

runic ether
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meaning u should take a good look at your pen% disc 5s

rapid bough
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(well, optimal without sig)

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but i do want to get mono electric team w/ yanagi working one day

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and maybe harumasas if i can ever resolve my skill issues with him

runic ether
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follow the flowcharts for haru

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that said, i kinda dont like rina with him

rapid bough
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i also reworked my evelyn to use brimstone instead of marcato

runic ether
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its great sure

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but idk

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it is slightly awkward rotations

rapid bough
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getting cdmg when you don't have a wengine to give it (or crit rate to free up disk 4 to go dmg) is such a pain in the ass

runic ether
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nicole having short anims and good cancel windows makes her so goated

rapid bough
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my disks 5 and 6 on eve are hella mid though

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i think pen% becomes her best disk 5 with lighter/astra but i don't have a good one there yet

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and my disk 6 just has shit substat rolls

runic ether
#

real

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disc 6 will always be the hardest one (more than 5 though both are rough)

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always bc the 5th disc can always bring a baseline value of element% or pen%

#

disc 6 is just your agent mainstat or energy

#

so optimizing it is a pain

rapid bough
#

several disks to improve significantly

runic ether
#

3/6 yeah can def be stronger

#

time to dump weeks worth of battery to take that b to an s

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until suddenly u hit a god roll

rapid bough
#

yeah i actually hit two god rolls today lol

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one was the woodpecker disk 1 i linked above (that's what she has on now)

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but the other was a blade&branch disk 1

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of course i got two godrolls in the same slot and was forced to choose

runic ether
#

maybe the 4th disc on woodpecker rolls better than a b and u can swap and have that one ready for shifu

rapid bough
#

yeah that's the hope, that's why i was rolling a shitton of woodpecker instead of yunkui

#

since woodpecker is so splashable

#

but now i'm out of tuning disks so i am at the mercy of routine cleanup for a while

#

god help me

#

well i still have a bunch of tuning calibrators actually but i never really want to use them them just for substats

runic ether
#

i'd actually get a serviceable yunkui

#

that way, a passable yixuan is achieved

#

which makes future updates bearable cus u have a functioning build right now

rapid bough
#

well i'm still probably a week+ from even using yixuan

#

i don't have even have a leveled wengine lol

runic ether
#

oh right

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u dont have neko engine

#

i was gonna say wtf but i have a neko wengine

#

so ive had my yixuan at 77/150

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i've already used her to clear

#

not shiyu 7

#

but 4-6

#

also, im thinking panda cat is the play for her until we get the next astra

#

nicole works but since shifu wants so much quickswap stuff

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pan and pulchra do a ton to keep her uptime

rapid bough
#

lol you said "panda cat" and i literally didn't know whether you meant fufu or pulchra

#

i do not have pulchra m6, nor am i even close to it

#

so i will be pulling fufu in the second half of the patch and using her

runic ether
#

in a way

#

this is also panda cat

rapid bough
#

yeah that's what confused me lmao

runic ether
#

too many cats

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seth, nekomiya, pulchra, fufu

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we need more shark thirens

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and other weirdos

#

the bunny thiren we are getting is going to be a fun character i can feel it

summer hornet
slow raft
#

Good choice honestly

honest pawn
#

heathcliff = 🐐

rapid bough
#

just saw someone getting 45k on pompey with m0w0 eve (brimstone)/m0w0 lighter (koleda wengine)/m0w1 astra with the new stun set on lighter

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meanwhile i'm stuck at like 33k

#

is it possible to learn this power

slow raft
rapid bough
#

there's definitely some eve tech that i'm not doing properly, like how to set up astra properly to use both of her ult chain attacks on eve

#

but surely that's not a 12k difference

#

astra sig probably helps too, but i have lighter sig and they don't which i have to imagine balances out

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their eve disks are def better than mine, pen% disk 5 and like 40 more cdmg without significantly overcapping crit rate like me

slow raft
long tree
#

twin tails
small
smug

#

deadinside hoyo you don't have to feed those kinds of people

#

Keep them contained in blue archive where they belong

mortal iron
#

the issue is blue archive makes alot of money

late canopy
#

It's always been really interesting to me how different my perceptions of the general BA communities differs from English speaking ones and eastern ones

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The eastern ones (JP and Chinese-speaking ones are the ones I've seen) are substantially more tame than the western ones

long tree
#

nyaruhodo i think you're just wrong on that

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They're both absolute degenerates

late canopy
#

I play the game, I see both nearly daily

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The western ones are the ones who shout 😭 😭 😭 all over the place

slow raft
#

I distincively remember ishowspeed being stopped irl by a blue archive fan and called a slur in china, so idk if id called that tame in any sense of the word

late canopy
#

It doesn't happen in the eastern ones

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I mean the in general online presence

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If you take one giga extreme fan as a representation of the whole community then it'll definitely be skewed

slow raft
#

I mean thats just one example thats undeniable, the people who i see online are far less easier to prove mostly because i block them

late canopy
#

From personal experience both sides are definitely degenerates (Seen from the sheer amount of works from Comiket), but eastern fans are far better at keeping unsightly displays of it to themselves

#

Instead of western fans just shouting it out loud to the heavens

slow raft
late canopy
#

It's similar to if you ever go to the 18+ section of any anime/manga store in Japan

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And how the general customer behaves there in public

#

They're usually very restrained and just browse in peace instead of losing their minds in the open

slow raft
#

I mean fwiw thats how people behave anywhere, aside from the occaisonal ahegao hoodie

late canopy
#

Oh yeah definitely

#

I was just drawing a comparison of that being similar to how my view of the eastern BA community usually is

#

Taking the general western fan I see into that scenario would be akin to them just fanboying over everything they see in the store out loud

slow raft
#

Certianly i see jp and cn speaking people screaming just as loud as the eng speakers but i guess i have no idea of the ratio, since i cant exactly see the people who arent tweeting cheems

late canopy
#

My main exposure to them is mainly Youtube comments and some discord server/channels in JP or CN

#

And they're substantially more tame than most EN ones I see from similar sources

old galleon
#

pretty much every gacha community i'm aware of has its annoying loud people

#

blue archive i'm sure is no exception

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tho idk how it got the perception that it's all bratty kids or whatever

#

i've seen plenty of designs there that would probably interest khaios, for example

late canopy
#

Honestly speaking for the game itself, the game is definitely fueled by degenerecy although I would say it has not taken the entire game over to the point that it's everywhere or even a large chunk of it

#

I love the game and genuinely think it's very good

slow raft
long tree
#

Those kinds of people are better off staying in blue archive

#

Cause we aren't welcoming them to our communities lmao

rapid bough
long tree
late canopy
#

Honse still my top game for sure

#

If you asked me to drop every game I play but one

#

It would be honse no hesitation

glossy latch
long tree
#

Honse players when they get contacted by the Japanese mafia for being horny (this negatively impacts the perception and branding of the honses)

rapid bough
late canopy
#

It's still endlessly impressive to me

#

How recent years in Comiket, honse still always magaes to top the charts

#

With completely SFW works

#

While being ranked with franchises that have no restrictions on it

#

It speaks to just how popular honse is

long tree
#

nukgar one day you will find your mountain to climb

old galleon
slow raft
rapid bough
#

hell yeah cook em guy

old galleon
#

or do you like the characters/story more?

#

or both?

late canopy
#

Personally speaking

#

Most people focus on the characters and story

old galleon
#

i know it gets a ton of hype but i don't think i've ever actually seen gameplay of it

late canopy
#

But I like both

#

And wish people talked more about both

#

One line from a Youtuber I watch stuck with me in that he said that whenever people talk about BA they always talk about the story, the characters, the music, etc

#

But he wished that more people talked about "BA the GAME"

#

And I absolutely agree

#

Although

#

I will say it is a very acquired taste

#

Some people hate it

#

And I can see why

slow raft
#

i was gonna say, the only time ive heard people talk about the game itself was to complain

late canopy
#

Yeah I think the most you're going to hear of the game is everything besides the gameplay

#

I really like the endgame boss fights

slow raft
#

i think what i heard complained most of was something tower?

#

been a while tho

late canopy
#

🤔

#

Not sure what that could be

#

I started playing in late 2023

slow raft
#

some pvp thing iirc

old galleon
#

what's honse gameplay like then?

#

like i said i don't think i've ever seen gameplay for it

late canopy
#

Oh yeah

#

Im making a video that will touch on that and caution against aspects that be turnoffs to some players (And post here after asking for and hopefully getting the mods' blessings to do so)

#

Cuz I think it's even more of an acquired taste

#

But a simple version of it is:

old galleon
#

aspects that be turnoffs
no degeneracy hopefully

late canopy
#

Honse is probably one of the least degen games out there

#

Horses you pull are not characters you build forever like in other games

#

They're "templates" that you can use in the game's training mode

#

Think of it like different starting characters in a roguelike

#

In the training mode you decide what to do on each turn (Training X stat, running a race) and keep going until you finish that horse's career goals

#

The effectiveness of the training is affected by RNG, which can be affected also by support cards you can bring with you to train

#

After a run is finished the output is saved, like a savegame from a roguelike

#

And you can take that output and use it to do content in the game, like Pvp or some events

#

The biggest potential turnoff for players in my opinion is going to be two things: pvp in gacha, and how heavy the rng is

#

There's rng in training, and rng in how well you run your races

#

So there's a lot of grinding hoping for good runs

#

It's almost like if you took genshin artifact farming and turned it into its own game

old galleon
#

that would sound like a turnoff to some people, ye

glossy latch
late canopy
#

I love it cuz it's very satisfying to me to take that rng and skew it towards my favor

slow raft
#

idk "the most annoying part of hoyo games as a standalone" is a good pitch yea

late canopy
#

Yeah it's not

#

Which is why Im making the video

#

I wanna let people know what they're getting themselves into

#

But also at the same time explain why despite all that I love the game and have been going strong on it for three years

#

So that anyone who hears what I have to say can decide if they want to try it or it's a dealbreaker

late canopy
#

And being at peace with that outcome knowing that I've tried my best

old galleon
#

today i have been blessed

rapid bough
#

get that bread

old galleon
#

that said, you're probably not the only one who'll do such a video

#

invariably, every time a new gacha goes global, there's a ton of random content creators who jump on that shit

#

so at the very least, you'd be one who has actual experience with the game

rapid bough
#

zzz 2.0 story ||i just started and got to waifei peninsula and the comic book cutscene where wise/yixuan's airship gets shot down has a guy that sounds a whole lot like the mayor say "target acquired" and then a VA that sounds a whole lot like sarah be the one that confirms they shot the airship down. mayor could not be any more sus right now||

late canopy
#

Yeah I hate the idea of people who see the outside of horse being a really shiny new game

#

And set themselves up for disappointment once they realize how niche the game actually is

#

I want as many people as possible to come play this game but only if they're going to enjoy it

#

And if they know just from hearing the elevator pitch that there's zero chance that they will then it's better that they don't even try if they know for sure they won't like it

icy flicker
long tree
icy flicker
#

a Gracefull standard pull today

runic ether
#

but her fit is crazy good

runic ether
rapid bough
#

yes

runic ether
#

then it may just be timing execution

#

and/or more min-maxed gear

#

thank you my goat full stop

#

now i know im not going to get fucked going for orphie and manato and yuzuha in one patch

#

but alice is cute too but will probably have to skip

#

chess!?

old galleon
#
  1. d4 response?
wispy goblet
#

Man remember the auto chess wave

rapid bough
#

ZZZ performance in the new ZZZ wide open investigation regions seems kinda shit

#

oh god this new temple management mode

#

i'm going to spend far longer doing this shit than i ought to, i can tell

#

minigames like this scratch an itch in my brain

wispy goblet
#

yo they have base management?

#

Now that's dangerous

rapid bough
#

ain't no way anby was my most used

#

i figured for sure it'd be miyabi or zhu yuan

#

i can't even remember the last time i used anby outside of combat trials forcing you to use her lol

slow raft
#

Yeah this data seems very weird

rapid bough
#

ah it's based on number of commissions used, not total playtime or anything

#

makes some sort of sense then since i would've used her on a shitton of early game commissions

#

later reward is "agent of the year"
allows player to choose
only provides 3 choices
evelyn is not one of them (it's anby, miyabi, and yanagi)

i'm sorry my love

glossy latch
#

Cant believe Khaios is unfaithful

#

No wonder Evelyn prefers Astra >:)

rapid bough
#

????? she's at 348 commissions and anby was at 28 but anby won? make it make sense

wispy goblet
#

what's the website

glossy latch
#

Its ingame

rapid bough
wispy goblet
#

Ahh

lusty egret
#

Man that attack ain't lying

#

EZ-8 really hit the hardest

#

It can already dishes out more damage than Exia even at lower level

mortal iron
#

it may have shit terrain

#

but by god it compensates

#

seeing the ez-8, was that the requiem for a vengeance gundam supposed to be based on

lusty egret
#

I can see it

#

It's the earliest we got an all-white Gundam suit IIRC

#

And RfV Gundam is clearly build to live up "white devil" moniker

#

Both also has red eyes huh

mortal iron
#

they do look like skeletal

#

well as skeletal as they couldve been at the time

old galleon
#

til blue archive is getting added to steam at some point

rapid bough
#

i hope we get some details on yuzuha's kit before yixuan's banner runs out

#

if she looks cracked i might skip fufu and just save for her

#

in which case i actually want yixuan's sig

#

just played through the 2.0 story and yixuan is fun af

#

feels like her playstyle is all gas no brakes and that's with me not playing anywhere close to optimal lol

digital marlin
#

planning to skip both since i feel like yanagi and miyabi should be rerunning soon

#

need to prepare myself for that

rapid bough
#

miyabi rerun after yixuan would be diabolical

digital marlin
#

your telling me.
Astra rerun feels out of left field since she was after those two so now im scared

#

who is left that hasnt been reran yet i want to see if i estimate when they will return

old galleon
#

unfortunately, this shit resets weekly

#

so i have to do it every week lmao

#

also one or more of the pledges change with the weekly reset

#

so that's "fun"

#

at least the hismena one is fairly straightforward

#

the isuka one is just tedious as hell

#

and i haven't even tried the new cetie and myrus ones yet

wispy goblet
#

another QEQ dupe from social pulls

#

hey that's MLB for her when I want

#

maybe it's time to finally break the 200 barrier

wispy goblet
#

My internet is shitting itself, but also everything else seems to be working fine... except for Nikke.
Is anyone else having trouble with Nikke right now?

wispy goblet
#

Never mind. It's behaving now.

glossy latch
#

I forgot how long it takes to farm materials to max out a character

#

I havent even gotten to the discs yet 😔

wispy goblet
#

Everyone here should be pretty evergreen, right?

old galleon
#

evergreen in what sense?

rapid bough
#

i wouldn't put money on any given DPS being evergreen, supports are the one true gacha meta lol

#

alice is already getting powercrept (and is annoying to use properly anyway), privaty is increasingly obsolete as a flex character since there are typically just better ones to use and she has anti-synergy with some teams

old galleon
#

and even today's top support isn't necessarily evergreen

rapid bough
#

QEQ and bunny soda are already not even top tier DPS, and bunny soda especially only sees use in one specific niche she could quickly get kicked out of if a better character in that niche comes along

#

naga is probably the most evergreen character there and even she has risk of being powercrept mostly because she needs a duo partner to really shine and that inherently makes her less versatile than a theoretical future broken solo B2 support (see: crown)

#

fwiw, all of those characters are Good Enough that if not being able to break 200 is impeding your progression (i.e., you're sitting on a large bucket of leveling mats), i'd just take the plunge

#

if i can function with having 3 characters i literally never use perma-locked in synchro, you can definitely function with 5 potentially niche ones

wispy goblet
#

ye
I wanted to replace Rapunzel before I pushed through, at least

rapid bough
#

god damn ZZZ 2.0 released with a lot of content lol

#

i've been playing nearly the whole day and i'm not even caught up to everything. finished the story and making my way through the side content now

#

story was quite good, reinforcing to me that the main weakness of recent chapters is honestly that they were trying to do too much at the same time. this chapter was basically focused on one central plot and better for it

#

also ||while i liked the cliffhanger at the end with the ethereal made from yuxian/yinjiang's memory (couldn't tell whose it was), i gotta say that i'm starting to find the exaltists tiresome. they're comically evil and have an overarching "just according to keikaku" reaction to literally everything, including what should (seemingly) be major defeats handed to them by the main cast. they apparently have a laundry list of plans and machinations and every time we stop one it's "welp, onto the next one" without much further ado, which sort of detracts from the narrative when it wants to portray the protags as achieving some great victory||

#

also also recency bias be damned, yixuan is probably my second favorite character now, honestly maybe even tied for first with eve. the more i see and play her the more she clicks with me in every way, from looks (insert dog barking gif here) to personality to how satisfying her gameplay is

summer hornet
runic ether
#

i had her written down as an attack agent idk why lol

#

surprised at anomaly

#

but also, this surely means that yuzuha will buff physical

#

also shes a rich girl who knows/knew lucy

#

this is how we get to the outer ring once again

rapid bough
#

i'm going through the golden mech event right now and... did hoyo forget to put billy's voice filter on his lines? lol

rapid bough
#

but the probability of me pulling yuzuha is high simply by merit of her being an S rank support

runic ether
#

alice is so rare for a hoyo design

#

shes symmetrical

#

and girl wearing sneakers

#

honestly her fit is quite generic tho

#

but i think thats okay

#

though i'd hate it if she is tailor made for jane

rapid bough
#

she has homophobia tho

runic ether
#

thats it tho

#

no thigh strap in one leg and not the other

#

no random like

#

one loose sleeve

#

lol damian

runic ether
#

i cant wait for yuzuha to troll the shit out of alice. she seems like a fun character so far (all of spook shack overall)

rapid bough
#

never really vibed with the trolly/prankster archetypes in any game so i continue to be unenthusiastic

runic ether
#

thats fair

#

they are never my #1 favorites but i do enjoy them

summer hornet
#

You’re interrupting yaoi, step aside

#

IDK what it is but Arknights events are almost always a blast

rapid bough
#

we are definitely nakhimov gaming (there's even a 6th purple one waiting outside the queue)

runic ether
#

lets goo

rapid bough
#

seemingly not disorder-focused though

runic ether
#

yeah figured cus of alice

rapid bough
#

seems to apply a debuff that basically changes her damage to be the same type as whatever other agent you're using

runic ether
#

yeah she seems to be decently universal in this form too

#

wonder if she'll make it past the beta

rapid bough
#

a dedicated anomaly support that basically changes damage to whichever anomaly type you're using sounds pretty cracked

#

gonna be a question of numbers

runic ether
#

for sure

mental acorn
#

we get more iberia content, we get the "oops we made the inquisition too good" and a cool antagonist out of it, we get the gremlin

#

salt flat sea is also a really cool concept

rapid bough
#

hmmm yuzuha being dedicated anomaly support does affect my plans somewhat

#

if she was good with yixuan i was going to skip fufu and just get yixuan's sig

#

evidently though she's not good with yixuan so i think i'm staying the course with getting fufu

#

but even then i'm kinda unsure

runic ether
#

honestly would be worth to wait for fufu's release

#

idk if she will be significantly stronger than the 3rd option that exists rn

rapid bough
#

i know it was only trial characters but fufu felt pretty weak in her test play sessions

runic ether
#

yepp

#

thats

#

been the overall consensus from beta too

#

shes like

#

fine

#

she has better buffs than trigger in the same role

#

but so far, they have been super careful with off field stunners

#

trigger, pulchra (until m6), and fufu have all been just okay

#

the best stunner being lighter still

rapid bough
#

i feel like the consensus i've heard is that trigger is actually really fucking strong tho

#

but maybe that's specifically with sig

runic ether
#

she is

#

with sig

rapid bough
runic ether
#

m0p1 trigger > fufu

#

but still worse than lighter

#

at least for the niche of eve or ellen or hugo

rapid bough
#

thing is that i don't have trigger or pulchra m6

#

if i did i'd skip fufu

#

but without them fufu fills a role i don't have in my roster

runic ether
#

yeah me having m6 pulchra absolutely changes things for my own pull plans

#

i do have her sig

#

yeah i think i cant justify fufu being so okay

#

if i have another unit with similar power especially with m6p1

rapid bough
#

i'm still struggling tbh

#

because realistically i'd be getting fufu specifically for yixuan

runic ether
#

and she is a universal stunner

#

but

rapid bough
#

i doubt i'd use her anywhere else, since basically any other team that'd benefit from a stunner has a better one (qingyi or lighter)

runic ether
#

idk

#

yeah

#

like

#

you do have qingyi and lighter

#

so idk if theres another team where u would really use fufu

rapid bough
#

plus i love trigger as a character so i'm 100% getting her on a rerun and likely her sig too

#

at which point she gaps fufu lol

runic ether
#

m0p1 trigger is absolutely stronger for more characters too

rapid bough
#

tbh might just get yixuan sig and deal with having suboptimal pan + pulchra as her teammates (since astra is eve locked)

#

her sig probably makes up the difference anyway lol

runic ether
#

honestly, u would probs use nicole

rapid bough
#

that's fine since nicole used to be locked to zhu yuan but now why would i use zhu over yixuan

runic ether
#

wait u have caesar

rapid bough
#

yeah

runic ether
#

she is still good despite being more limited than other options

rapid bough
#

was thinking about getting her sig too

runic ether
#

honestly

#

nicole and rina being a bit more mid on yixuan cus the sheer force damage does ignore some def but it doesnt stack with nicole

#

it'd probs lean into caesar then

rapid bough
#

pulling for 2 sigs in a patch makes me want to vomit in my mouth a bit

runic ether
#

just get the event a rank wengine

rapid bough
#

idk next patch's reruns either, if eve is running i'm getting her sig

runic ether
#

its a defense wengine with impact

rapid bough
#

wait what

runic ether
#

the film event

rapid bough
#

caesar has an actual on-class wengine now that isn't her sig

runic ether
#

the one that just came out

#

yep lol

rapid bough
#

it's a miracle

runic ether
#

hoyo does this

#

almost a year into

#

and she's getting a reru

#

rerun

#

its easier to sell a character than a wengine

#

its not the best effect but the sub is great for her and the effect is okay

rapid bough
#

uggggh

rapid bough
#

said "fuck it we ball." 40 pulls later

#

so i got yixuan and her sig in 70 pulls total, bout time i had some good luck in this game

#

also got one copy of pan's sig on the way which is a nice bonus

runic ether
#

p good wengine too

runic ether
#

they always knock it out of the park when animating characters

#

vivian is umbrella sword. yuzuha is umbrella gun.

#

and both yuzuha and alice along with belle and wise summer skins?

#

if zzz is dropping skins constantly it may be over for me

#

and yuzuha synergizes with kaboom the cannon too

#

oh fuck tho yuzuha's wengine is pretty nutty for anom characters

#

well im dumb

#

there we go

#

that said idk if it beats kaboom

#

and alice seems to be miyabi but physical more or less

#

different application

#

but this trend now kinda points to us getting an f2p crit anomaly engine down the line

#

reading alice's kit tho man she'd be clunky af with yuzuha

#

she builds crit not am/ap

#

but yuzuha wants you to care about am/ap

#

jane miyabi and alice are all in theory the best to work off yuzuha

#

but miyabi has built-in ways to get am/ap and jane has built-in ways to get crit

#

this leaves alice in a weird spot

#

that said, jane vivi yuzu will go extremely hard

#

manato most likely s rank now

#

fuuck

#

zzz has me pulling almost every patch

#

at least we are getting a dumptruck load of pulls this patch

#

why she clean with it

#

damnnn

versed pawn
#

guess my top ups are gone now

#

i need that yuzuha girl

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physical + ap scaling

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my jane will be so happy to have someone help her stack anomalys

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without putting the dmg down the shitter

runic ether
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yuzuha is astra for anomaly yeah

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i hope her kit remains good-great with kaboom

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also alice is aura farming but i do have jane so hype for her is diminished

versed pawn
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her base kit doing extra anomaly proccs for assimilated and atk boost makes her decent enough at m0

runic ether
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yea fs

versed pawn
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also 25% dmg boost for janes crit assault

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with vivian bloom sounds really good to me

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because i swear i did struggle a bit with lost void until i farmed with jane astra and vivian

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shit is crazy ez now

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with the first ultimate gear

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and the special jane gear that give her that crazy ex attack

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had like 100% ult uptime

runic ether
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(f)lying (f)lame did leak that jane was getting buffed next. ig he wasnt lying for once since it'll be yuzuha

versed pawn
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imo all i need for jane is better anomaly appliance

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because the first 2-3 go smooth but then the stacking up generall resistance makes it pretty wacky

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my greedy ass was punished trying to get m6 panda

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now i have m2 yixuan

runic ether
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m6 pan and pulchra off this banner

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m6 seth too

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i think i do have every a rank at m6 now

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yup

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m6 pulchra, m6 piper, m6 lucy, m6 soukaku, m6 billy, m6 nicole, m6 pan, m6 ben, m6 anton, m6 anby, m6 seth, m6 corin

versed pawn
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ye

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missing panda

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i just annoyed because i did it too quick wanted to pull on astra banner just in case i get the m2

runic ether
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fair lol

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winning too hard

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too fast

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honestly tho im more focused on grinding the new daze set

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god

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i need to update so many characters

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also, i need disc loadouts

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cus i do use lycaon for support and for astral

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and i've been building nicole to have astral and jazz

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too many needs for multiple sets

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would like a loadout page

mortal iron
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Okay so next banner is probably wing zero

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Or atleast wing related

lusty egret
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Owo

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Wing huh

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I expect UR will be Endless Waltz Wing Zero

mortal iron
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I can see the other unit being a zeta related suit

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Coz the event also allows the zeta series for some reason

timber sigil
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Lind/AA12 next on CN

idle grove
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based

timber sigil
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She's fucking akimboing AA12s based

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[ATTIRE SHOWCASE & UPGRADE]

Lind's GFL1 swimsuit "The Sun Never Rises" confirmed to return as a static legacy skin

Furthermore Sharkry's swimsuit "Swimsuit Idol" is set to receive the Accessory Upgrade with this patch and likely within the next few patches for EN as well https://t.co/UnWl5mxvWQ

QRT: 404_Griffin
[RETURNING T-DOLL]
LIND

SG Tactical Doll AA-12, also known as Lind the medical test subject Doll is making her grand return to the Exiles https://t.co/MV0F7SnnR2

mortal iron
glossy latch
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Alice being physical surprises me

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I figured shed be electric

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Guess I need to save for Yuzuha

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... so I have to hope I win the 50/50 on Astra

mortal iron
mortal iron
# mortal iron

wonder what suits are in tough as nails and unstoppable

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wing and tallgeese are in unstoppable

lusty egret
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I got Frau Support with Tough as Nail tags, so I've been building that team in awhile

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I'm surprised Ez-8 is one, it's one hell of buff since I got it

mortal iron
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i dont have the tough as nails tag support so i cant check

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best i can do is see what roster is in tough as nails

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didnt see a wing suit there, mostly zeta

lusty egret
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Alas, UR Papsmear also in that tag

mortal iron
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urgh

lusty egret
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Why this game forcing us to using him

mortal iron
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pain

lusty egret
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Oh Gato Gelgoog also one huh

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For non Gacha unit, the worthy one are the Psycho Gundams, Over.on, G-3, & Zeong, & ZZ

slow raft
rapid bough
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with yuzuha being dedicated anomaly support, i wonder what the 2.1 reruns will be

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i'd expect yanagi to be one of them

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maybe miyabi? would feel kinda weird alongside alice considering their skills seem to be set up very similarly

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but if they release a f2p crit anomaly engine in 2.1 a miyabi rerun would be blessed

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could be burnice too, she's the only other anomaly agent that hasn't either released or rerun recently

slow raft
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burnice ran alongside vivian, no?

rapid bough
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oh yeah she did get a rerun

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wasn't with vivian though, was with sanby

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i completely forgot that though lmao

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well if they want to double down on anomaly alongside yuzuha then the only viable candidates are yanagi and miyabi unless they want to give vivi/jane/burnice some of the fastest reruns ever (unlikely, especially since jane is physical anomaly like alice)

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but no guarantee they go double anomaly

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i'm coping for an eve rerun since we just got lighter and astra b2b

slow raft
rapid bough
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it's failing... with style

timber sigil
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New Assumed Story Sequence for GFL2: (Jun 2025)

Retcon/Rewrite Hell
Jiangyu (no story, only 4k words in CN)

Chapter 0 - Major Event [Glass Island]
Chapter 1 to 8 - Main Campaign
Chapter 8.3 - Daiyan's Character Event
Chapter 8.6 - Reissi's Character Event
Chapter 9 to 10 - Major Event [Aphelion]
Chapter 11 to 12 - Major Event [Deep Oblivion]
Chapter 12.5 - Lenna's Character Event
Unknown Main Story Chapter - Major Event [Mimisbrunnr's Reprise]

Post Aphelion:
Vector
Andoris
Belka
Yoohee…

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Lenna rewritten event soonish

runic ether
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she might just also be good enough outside of anomaly

idle grove
honest pawn
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WHAT

rapid bough
lusty egret
old galleon
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costume name is just sabazios

summer hornet
# mortal iron

Since they didn't make GP01 the UR for Stardust Memory I still have all my gems lol

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I might roll for Wing Zero

mortal iron
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my guess when they do stardust memory part 2

GP03 with the Dendrobium would be the banner unit
Some suit that is related to the tag of eternal road that a GP03 will be with

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i feel like gp03 base and Neue Ziel would be the developable SSRs

mortal iron
# mortal iron

quatre is made to work with the wing zero developable SSR it seems, his typing matches up

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makes sense, he did develop it canonically

summer hornet
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Better than using SR Heero lol

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I really hope Quatre has buffs to improve the accuracy

lusty egret
rapid bough
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man i'm really struggling with whether or not to get yixuan's skin

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i love both her base and her skin tbh

old galleon
rapid bough
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idk, normally i don't end up getting skins unless they immediately appeal in ways the base appearance doesn't

old galleon
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you were originally uninterested in little mermaid's skin and caved afterward

rapid bough
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that is like the one exception i can recently think of

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and legit it's like 90% because her burst animation sold me on it

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which obviously i wasn't able to see until it was actually in game

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and couldn't compare to her base burst ani until i got her... on the last day of her banner lol

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anyway yixuan's base is slightly more goon and her skin is more elegant, but her base also fits the aesthetic of the game and her faction more imo so the consistency is a point in its favor too

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i do remember thinking her sig wengine effects look cooler with her skin tho

old galleon
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everything you're saying is just further convincing me you'll cave

rapid bough
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is it? i even said her base is more goon

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degenerate that i am, goon is an important factor

wispy goblet
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The stocking thigh asmr tho

rapid bough
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true!

wispy goblet
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I probably won't get her skin
Not my vibe

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tbh I might grab Nicole's skin

rapid bough
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is it not free anymore? rip

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was free on release

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i'm not a fan of nicole's skin

wispy goblet
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unfortunate

rapid bough
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i haven't much cared for any ZZZ skin so far except yixuan's

wispy goblet
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I'm not in front of the game rn
But the pink bomber and top really speak to me
or something

rapid bough
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super meh on astra, ellen, and nicole's

wispy goblet
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tangentially
I gotta find a way to clean up 26 gigs on my phone....

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or rush order a steam deck to bring on vacation....

old galleon
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looks like eve gets three skins and raven gets two

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also centi gets a swimsuit

rapid bough
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i really like their base appearances and their skins are sorta whatever so idt i'll be buying either pass or the gacha for her

old galleon
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they each get a free skin tho

rapid bough
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however i will be getting stellar blade CE for that scarlet skin

rapid bough
rapid bough
old galleon
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eve gets keyhole dress for free and raven gets planet diving suit thingy, no idea what either of them look like

rapid bough
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here's what they look like

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skin suit is the gacha skin for eve

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(which i will not be posting here)

old galleon
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they look decent enough

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i know the gooners will look at them and think they cover them too much but as far as that goes, i prefer them to the basic school outfits the eva characters got

rapid bough
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yeah they look fine to me. also they don't show the back for the shooting pose which is where a lot of the attention clearly went lol

astral drift
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wew

summer hornet
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Oh this is big ups

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They’re going to adjust the Auto AI, add more tags for PvP to avoid it being a UR slogfest, AND adjust capture requests

mortal iron
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ooh

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i hate capture requests man

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when it says capture 4

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and then i waste a week worth of energy just to get it done