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i fucking love billy
5* Billy when?
when he brings out his old treads
nicole is very much a case of "the front she puts on is annoying even if i know she is not purely money-motivated, or at least she's always money-motivated for the right reasons"
Billy is like deadpool if he was just stupid for love of the game
the sons of calydon other than lucy have exactly one brain cell to share between them
piper is super chill. i like piper. not to the point of "waifu or wife" but she is a fun personality
yeah piper's just fun
Burnice is probably the result of huffing burning fumes for too long but she's happy
real question, do we know if she's actually old or is it just a bit
tbf this describes a solid chunk of the playable nikkes
i mean yeah i figured
nah i think only a small subset of them are "death by snu snu" risks
a trucker license too
so she's def on the older end of the cast
p sure in china u need to be a min age of 25 to drive the kind of truck she does
and she was renewing it
"down awful" and "death by snu snu" are a bit different imo
of course, new eridu isnt actually china but we see a lot of parallels on what they tax and license and shit
well i said she was too down awful because she's in that "death by snu snu" range
Cowardice
this is also why some of the AL fan favorites don't appeal to me quite as much

like mogador and taihou
there's a limit to how down bad characters get before it's offputting lol
i actually find it kinda funny that canonically in ZZZ it feels like trigger is the most down bad of the entire cast, maybe tied with vivian
our resident confirmed proxy stalkers
I got a thing where red flags are green flags if they meet one of my three categories
trigger draws up detailed battle plans just to have an excuse to run into the proxy lol
and iirc her wengine description confirms she basically stalks the proxies
yea
God forbid women have hobbies
(but lovingly stalks so it's ok)
and like, okay it makes some sense she is keeping an eye on us (lol) but god damn
i do like trigger though
i absolutely love trigger
she could have been edgy
it sucks i was in a position where i couldn't pull for her when she ran
but i like how down to earth she is
she's absolute wife material
yeah same
Trigger i cant decide if her being a goober is more or less attractive
before yixuan, trigger probably was my second favorite char in ZZZ
behind eve ofc
and she still might be. again, yixuan has recency bias on her side
based on my favorite ZZZ characters
people may assume I have a type
also trigger's battle theme absolutely fucking slaps so she's got that going for her which is nice
"World's strongest sorcerer... except for satoru gojo" energy
oh absolutely
her theme is good
i enjoyed the scene of her taking 11 on a date too
anby not knowing how to respond to that was funny
the close of s11/sanby's storyline kinda put a bad taste in my mouth
it feels like anby and trigger are just left to consistently gaslight her and that's kinda shit
oh absolutely
but its part of the reason i liked it
anby is a super flawed person/character
and trigger is too respectful to disagree with anby on it
it characterizes them both well and it will very likely cause problems in the future
as anby continues running away from her responsibility
i mean yeah it's in character for anby (unfortunately) but i'm not sure i agree on the trigger front
trigger can anbsolutely go to bat for those she cares about
mhm
and by any metric she had more reason to prevent purposely memory holing s11 than anby did, since she still works with s11 lol
but, we know she knows enough (now) to let go. and hasnt been afraid to keep up white lies
in that same sense
she has as much reason or more
since 11 was targeted internally
and she knows her
hasnt been afraid to keep up white lies
ok but this is not a white lie lol
she knows that 11 would still accept the missions anyways
i think the whole of it will def bite them in the ass as we get more obol squad development
especially with magus and seed
magus is the leader, currently tied to orphie
and if magus' goal remains the same as the internal docs
she'll be rightfully pissed as fuck at both of them
should lead to an inevitable clash
which im wondering how it'll be handled for orphie
my guess: she can possess orphie
and as she is the commander, learning of the gaslighting they have been doing on 11
idk i'm not sure i have the same confidence they'll handle all that "properly" (as in, treat it as the bad thing that it is) that you do
especially with sanby not actually being a squad member
i see where they can go with it but it sure feels to me like it was just a forced reversion to the status quo just because of weird timeline shit they didn't want to deal with
i think the game treated it as enough a bad thing over time
i didn't get that vibe at all tbh
like the quest basically was anby realizing she has to eventually face this
the game was very matter of fact about it
like "
GASLIGHT" then story over
anby and 11 are basically the 2 poster characters used in marketing
their story are not done at all
i'm not saying it's done
i'm saying i don't have faith they'll handle it as well as you hope lol
and with how hi3rd's story has handled heavier topics, i think they will do okay
could even be great
ZZZ storytelling quality has been on a pretty significant downward trend ever since the loss of TV mode imo so
its been okay
i am glad they didnt conclude it there and it seems they wont conclude it soon
since it'll give them time to get back up to skill with the storytelling post-tv
it can still be okay when they focus on one thing but when it gets complex shit falls apart real quick
that's a big reason why part 1 of the epilogue to season 1 was better than part 2
for sure
it was mostly all about mockingbird/hugo/etc.
part 2 tried to do way too much at once and everything sorta suffered for it
story in 2.0 so far has been a bit too distracted but i do expect it to get better
i havent finished 2.0 story
ultimately tho, i have seen hoyo in other games, do good by more complex topics and stories
and have good payoffs over time
so i have some trust on them delivering with anby and 11 conflict
on the flipside i feel like i've already seen them drop the ball with reasonably important character beats so far like the entire vivi/dina arc and, being real, everything to do with bringer and how they just sorta forgor zhu yuan's close personal ties to him
yeah but that was also part of that rushed feeling in 1.6 and 1.7 as a whole
really should have waited on that
the whole exaltists
right but that's kinda what i'm saying with the downward trend in storytelling quality
everything's felt kinda rushed honestly since 1.4
for sure
i do agree with it
they did a good job with astra and eve
but it was largely its own thing
again, because they spent time actually focusing on it
when it was tied to the rest, it was too quick
imo, again, i have seen them do good in their other games and their longterms
and a lot of that can be waved away for being too soon after losing tv and wanting their cake and eating it too
it's been a trend for long enough that i'm not sure it can be waved away anymore
if 2.x patches still fail in that sense, thats when the worry would set in
hell the idle dialogue lines during roaming sessions are STILL stupidly slow lol
how long have they had to fix that
mhm
that said, it may be a part of code jumbling for that
again, i'm willing to give benefit of doubt given their other games/history
that said
genshin story also took a dive in this exact same time as zzz
perhaps, but i'm also sure those other games also have story beats they miss on too lol
can't nail it every time
which is fine, not everything needs to knock it out of the park (and indeed it's almost better that it doesn't, since some things need build up to really shine)
just saying i'm a bit dubious about the direction of the storytelling in ZZZ atm
emphasis on the telling part btw. i think the story and characters are fine, but they're not being given the time they need. or at least some parts aren't
come to think of it the entire "mayor ex machina, surprise proxies now have superpowers" arc is probably the best example of that
mayor is sus as hell
he absolutely is
Oh Star Rail leaks suggest were getting another new path
ye
as i said, genshin (and zzz) both started missing on their story beats at the exact same time
||Elation, and supposedly were getting Sampo as an emanator? God I hope its true, I wanna use Sampo again||
genshin's fall was way worse tho cus the region prior was really damn good
thus far my favorite gacha story remains nikke
it's got its problems and sometimes leans too hard into melodrama to the point that it can get a bit eye-rolling
but when it hits it hits
yeah i feel like that has been genshin for the most part
only this last region just flopped as a whole
some really good moments
but it had some abysmal dogshit points
that said, limbus company has absolutely mogged the story of the hoyo games and im only in the half way point of the current latest story chapter
so unless the next 4 chapters i have yet to play through are shit, thats the one i'd rank highest easily
i don't think nikke has ever reached low points that bad but i know some would disagree with me on that lol, i've seen some people absolutely dump on some of my personal favorite parts of the story (and again i'll emphasize that even my favorite parts of the story are not without issue so it's not unreasonable for opinions to vary)
for me nikke's story quality oscillates between just mid, good enough to keep me interested but not getting me on the edge of my seat, and actually getting gut wrenching reactions out of me (in the good way)
Tbh Gacha stories will ever be held back by the fact that theyre, well, in a gacha
for sure
there's a cap to how good they can be, but i think nikke's is way up there as far as gachas go
i think limbus so far, not done yet, but that one kind of escapes from it
the writing is genuinely pretty damn good
nikke's main and event stories are told more like a VN and that's to its benefit
though this is a gacha game that ppl rag on for not being good at being a gacha
The medium has inherent flaws when it comes to telling a story (mostly the ever rotating cast of characters)
Limbus I believe has a small cast and new "units" are just the same characters with new powers?
i think thats def a big reason i've enjoyed limbus yeah
its only the 12 sinners, vergilius, dante (you), and charon as the main characters
the gacha system is the ids or idealities of the 12 sinners
fwiw nikke doesn't lean super hard into this for its main story. while there's obviously a large cast of characters, they don't force new cast members into the main story unnecessarily. some are introduced well before they become playable, some well after, but always with a part to play
genshin can sometimes have that problem, but it was never too bad until natlan
every character instead just gets their own event, sometimes a sorta slice of life side story, sometimes actually an important world- and character-building event
that though, has helped a lot in zzz where
it doesnt feel disconnected
easily my favorite part of the story characterization for zzz
never feels like we ditch our old friends for the new ones to pull
i will say that nikke can sorta get to the opposite end of the spectrum of what i was criticizing ZZZ for
whereas ZZZ feels like it's rushing through things quite often lately
sometimes nikke can just spend too fucking long
and new eridu's ever growing polycule centered around the goofiest proxies continues adding more members in to it rather than just moving on
and while the payoffs in those situations are almost always great, the leadup can drag quite a bit
Star Rail sorta avoids this somewhat since you have a main cast and then the planets you visit
The only trouble is I'm not sure the main cast is exactly the strongest
for star rail, if you dont end up liking a planet's cast, gg
nikke definitely keeps a focus on a core main cast with occasional (and usually temporary) additions here and there
||Maybe they can have Elation Emanator Sampo join the Astral Express||
that whole story section wont be for you
||last time the elation entered the express half the train blew up its not happening||
kinda like hsr
main cast + the planet's main cast
granted, for hsr
||I mean Sampo wouldnt do that, hes our friend||
welt and himeko have been very underused
||but it would be really funny if it happened again||
True!
Oh god I had a horrible idea
||New elation character but its just Persona 4 Adachi||
Was Himeko even part of the main story on any of the planets?
yeah i dont really know him besides knowing hes the villain
shes the emanator of the sidequests
like silver wolf
welt was with us on the luofu
himeko and welt in penacony
she was more central to the end of penacony
which was the weaker parts
she also showed up to handle matters with belobog and the ipc
she was ready to throw hands with topaz
man
i would have loved if himeko came with us to amphoreus
as i said
underutilize
peak for 2 and a half patches
im liking amphoreus so far despite it being so wordy
but it can def be better
but at least it hasnt hit low points like penacony did
and we know the story is still ongoing
we arent just gonna move on next patch
Penacony was both too short and too rewritten
this could have been really ass if they rushed it

Not even the only issue but unironically her getting more attention was an issue yeah
I also would've preferred the original idea of ||Luka/Watchmaker becoming the villain||
I know people liked Penacony as a whole but I really liked the Luofu more
That one was clearly rewritten quite late
I think Penacony was by far the more interesting planet
now that is pretty spicy
And it had higher highs (2.1)
ok real question since i know almost nothing about HSR, but enough to know firefly is a fan favorite, and in light of this knowledge i feel obligated to ask: why does everyone here seem to hate her lol
But the story just kinda fell apart towards the end, and even that one twist doesnt save
I dont hate her tbh
they baited ppl
But Penacony was clearly rewritten to put more focus on her
And it doesnt really work
this is how she was originally presented to us
and then she never develops outside of "is a love interest for the player"
literally loses all aura
Eh, Im a Kamen Rider fan, I dont mind the secret identity split, but like
Pbandai shf, death
Yeah it doesnt really mesh with her identity as Sam
I just outright hate her
"is a love interest for the player"
i assume this is a big part of her being a fan favorite too
A bit?
I dislike her voice, I dislike her character
Again I think she's a fine character, but I would've liked to see more of her Sam side, and I would've especially preferred if she was like
A side character
I knew about the twist because a lot of people have her and I tried her out as a friend unit but wow the twist sucked too
Have her get her own little story as a substory that barely intersects with the main story
If it was separate from the rest, maybe.
Like the Hunt March event
Also infuriating: the whole forced date in the sequence to try and get into the theater
Inversely, Luka needed to be way more focused in the story because with him being written out, the core mystery also got largely written out, and that made Penacony far less interesting
She's the only character I dislike in HSR so far.
Do you mean Misha?
Luka did get his own quest
With the Wardance
im p sure ovven means misha
but yea
watchmaker not being a/the villain def hurts it
... oh yeah I meant Misha
how far into amphoreus are u again
Idk why I kept saying Luka
Uhh
idly
while we're on gacha stories
should I start the Season 2 story even though I'm not finished with Chapter 1 yet
I recently got to the point where I got to the Time Titan
Honestly Amphoreus is a bit slow to start but I'm liking it so far
in ZZZ? i didn't even realize you could do that
Like Misha was originally meant to be a big plot focus, thats also why he has those keyhole eyes (and a version in the files with different eyes) but nope, that was all cut
In the end Penacony just kinda limps to a finish that ends up with literally no part of what you did in the chapters prior mattering
the first 3 chapters are sort of a mishmash of introducing 3 main factions (cunning hares, belobog industries, victoria housekeeping respectively)
acheron basically resolves the end of the story for us and we call it a day
things start getting more interconnected into a central story progression more after that
Speaking of, I'm assuming her actual name being Raiden is a reference to other Hoyo games and matters for that?
but there are some overarching plotlines worth following even in the first 3 chapters so idk how much you'd miss by starting c2 "early"
oh wait you mean ZZZ season 2, with yixuan, not just chapter 2 lol
season 2's story ain't gonna make any fucking sense without playing through season 1
yeah do the waifei introductory bits but don't do main story stuff
Yeah Hoyo likes having expies of certain characters in other games
Bronya and Silver Wolf are also expies (of the same character ... sort of)
As is Seele
And Himeko and Luocha
Aaaaand Phainon
Welt is a bit of an oddity in that he is a character from those other games, but he isnt an expy, hes just literally the same Welt
Oh right I do remember that Welt is actually from another universe/game
Yeah, hes from HI3, thats where his powers come from
I wonder if he's the same as Welt then because he looks quite different to the rest of the cast
Phainon is an expy of a character who is not only massive spoilers to his games, but where explaining his role in that game risks spoilering his role in this game
Don't answer that if it matters
yea just keep playing
cant really tell u about his og form yet
it is however
pretty peak
Oh yeah Sushang is also randomly an expy
in hi3rd
technically, cipher too
hes su
... oh for fucks sake
I just got it
||Amphoreus is just a bunch of HI3rd references isnt it||
it
||Theyre based on the 13 Flame-Chasers||
yeah you can talk to her at the outpost right away
I got a pop up saying I should wait so I didn't start her new story yet
cipher = pardofelis
anaxa = su
||phainon = kevin||
||cyrene = elysia||
||mydei = kalpas||
it's not going away, right?
I don't gotta rush it?
might do it even if it's not
but
Not that I have time, but I am curious about Honkai 3rd
i mean idk the introduction sequence might change but season 2 starts with introducing an entirely new area which is definitely not going anywhere lol
catch up with amphoreus and then i can give u a rundown
i havent played but i caught up with the stor
story

Hold on if you have, I do have one thing I was curious about
||Who is even the main antagonist with part 2?||
part 2 is the one part i havent caught up yet but...
i'd say that ||ajita and leylah will be the main ones long term||
Yixuan skin introduces a new mechanic called tigh asmr
the fact it has sfx for her stockings rubbing together is insane, hoyo going crazy

man the level 10 expansion drill for this gfl2 reset is so much harder than the frenzy drill lmao
frenzy is supposed to be the challenge difficulty but it has a much more forgiving turn requirement for some reason
whereas the level 10 one has a brutal turn requirement
DPS Pan Yinhu is viable, although it requires just as much investment, if not more, than Ben. His animations are slower, it's hard to dodge counter during basic attacks, and he's hard carried by his other teammates. He may feel clunky now, but when Ju Fufu comes around, this team should see a lot more synergy and success.
Phase 1 0:00
Phase 2 1...
i feel like i got mogged
i used to pray for times like these
only shame is that woodpecker is a really popular set and because this one has HP% it's only ever usable for yixuan lol
but still, we take those
on that note though...
the one bummer about this is that i'm currently rolling woodpecker for yixuan (obviously) but hoping to get some upgrades for my eve's disks in the process too
and my disk 1 on eve is already blade & branch godroll
suffering from success
wao
i'm seeing conflicting info on whether ether% or hp% is yixuan's best disk 5
i can only assume that means they're pretty damn close and whichever you get with better substats probably wins
its close yeah
uhh it also depends on if u get hp% sources elsewhere like wengine
iirc
element% is favored a lot bc thats not in substats and sometimes not in all wengines
i'm prolly gonna end up using the f2p wengine since i can get that to level 5
i do not have a nekomata engine
rip
if i'd known it was good for yixuan i would've picked it over rina wengine for my guaranteed one lol
oh well
yeah i definitely don't mind having rina's engine
but i'm farther away from using her than i am yixuan
so i'd prefer optimal yixuan now
meaning u should take a good look at your pen% disc 5s
(well, optimal without sig)
but i do want to get mono electric team w/ yanagi working one day
and maybe harumasas if i can ever resolve my skill issues with him
i also reworked my evelyn to use brimstone instead of marcato
getting cdmg when you don't have a wengine to give it (or crit rate to free up disk 4 to go dmg) is such a pain in the ass
nicole having short anims and good cancel windows makes her so goated
my disks 5 and 6 on eve are hella mid though
i think pen% becomes her best disk 5 with lighter/astra but i don't have a good one there yet
and my disk 6 just has shit substat rolls
real
disc 6 will always be the hardest one (more than 5 though both are rough)
always bc the 5th disc can always bring a baseline value of element% or pen%
disc 6 is just your agent mainstat or energy
so optimizing it is a pain
3/6 yeah can def be stronger
time to dump weeks worth of battery to take that b to an s
until suddenly u hit a god roll
yeah i actually hit two god rolls today lol
one was the woodpecker disk 1 i linked above (that's what she has on now)
but the other was a blade&branch disk 1
of course i got two godrolls in the same slot and was forced to choose
maybe the 4th disc on woodpecker rolls better than a b and u can swap and have that one ready for shifu
yeah that's the hope, that's why i was rolling a shitton of woodpecker instead of yunkui
since woodpecker is so splashable
but now i'm out of tuning disks so i am at the mercy of routine cleanup for a while
god help me
well i still have a bunch of tuning calibrators actually but i never really want to use them them just for substats
i'd actually get a serviceable yunkui
that way, a passable yixuan is achieved
which makes future updates bearable cus u have a functioning build right now
well i'm still probably a week+ from even using yixuan
i don't have even have a leveled wengine lol
oh right
u dont have neko engine
i was gonna say wtf but i have a neko wengine
so ive had my yixuan at 77/150
i've already used her to clear
not shiyu 7
but 4-6
also, im thinking panda cat is the play for her until we get the next astra
nicole works but since shifu wants so much quickswap stuff
pan and pulchra do a ton to keep her uptime
lol you said "panda cat" and i literally didn't know whether you meant fufu or pulchra
i do not have pulchra m6, nor am i even close to it
so i will be pulling fufu in the second half of the patch and using her
yeah that's what confused me lmao
too many cats
seth, nekomiya, pulchra, fufu
we need more shark thirens
and other weirdos
the bunny thiren we are getting is going to be a fun character i can feel it
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just saw someone getting 45k on pompey with m0w0 eve (brimstone)/m0w0 lighter (koleda wengine)/m0w1 astra with the new stun set on lighter
meanwhile i'm stuck at like 33k
is it possible to learn this power
there's definitely some eve tech that i'm not doing properly, like how to set up astra properly to use both of her ult chain attacks on eve
but surely that's not a 12k difference
astra sig probably helps too, but i have lighter sig and they don't which i have to imagine balances out
their eve disks are def better than mine, pen% disk 5 and like 40 more cdmg without significantly overcapping crit rate like me
twin tails
small
smug
hoyo you don't have to feed those kinds of people
Keep them contained in blue archive where they belong
the issue is blue archive makes alot of money
It's always been really interesting to me how different my perceptions of the general BA communities differs from English speaking ones and eastern ones
The eastern ones (JP and Chinese-speaking ones are the ones I've seen) are substantially more tame than the western ones
I play the game, I see both nearly daily

The western ones are the ones who shout 😭 😭 😭 all over the place
I distincively remember ishowspeed being stopped irl by a blue archive fan and called a slur in china, so idk if id called that tame in any sense of the word
It doesn't happen in the eastern ones
I mean the in general online presence
If you take one giga extreme fan as a representation of the whole community then it'll definitely be skewed
I mean thats just one example thats undeniable, the people who i see online are far less easier to prove mostly because i block them
From personal experience both sides are definitely degenerates (Seen from the sheer amount of works from Comiket), but eastern fans are far better at keeping unsightly displays of it to themselves
Instead of western fans just shouting it out loud to the heavens
And i disagree with that from personal experience, though thats from the outside looking in
It's similar to if you ever go to the 18+ section of any anime/manga store in Japan
And how the general customer behaves there in public
They're usually very restrained and just browse in peace instead of losing their minds in the open
I mean fwiw thats how people behave anywhere, aside from the occaisonal ahegao hoodie
Oh yeah definitely
I was just drawing a comparison of that being similar to how my view of the eastern BA community usually is
Taking the general western fan I see into that scenario would be akin to them just fanboying over everything they see in the store out loud
Certianly i see jp and cn speaking people screaming just as loud as the eng speakers but i guess i have no idea of the ratio, since i cant exactly see the people who arent tweeting 
My main exposure to them is mainly Youtube comments and some discord server/channels in JP or CN
And they're substantially more tame than most EN ones I see from similar sources
pretty much every gacha community i'm aware of has its annoying loud people
blue archive i'm sure is no exception
tho idk how it got the perception that it's all bratty kids or whatever
i've seen plenty of designs there that would probably interest khaios, for example
Honestly speaking for the game itself, the game is definitely fueled by degenerecy although I would say it has not taken the entire game over to the point that it's everywhere or even a large chunk of it
I love the game and genuinely think it's very good
I was talking more just like
Those kinds of people are better off staying in blue archive
Cause we aren't welcoming them to our communities lmao
why am i being subtweeted as if i'm the only one who likes adult women with big tits 

Honse still my top game for sure
If you asked me to drop every game I play but one
It would be honse no hesitation
Ever since Yuri is gone you have the most basic taste here
Honse players when they get contacted by the Japanese mafia for being horny (this negatively impacts the perception and branding of the honses)
i make no apologies, i know what i like
It's still endlessly impressive to me
How recent years in Comiket, honse still always magaes to top the charts
With completely SFW works
While being ranked with franchises that have no restrictions on it
It speaks to just how popular honse is
This is not the way of scopper gaban
one day you will find your mountain to climb
because you make yourself a super easy target
Person with second most basic taste:
hell yeah cook em guy
is the gameplay itself that good?
or do you like the characters/story more?
or both?
i know it gets a ton of hype but i don't think i've ever actually seen gameplay of it
But I like both
And wish people talked more about both
One line from a Youtuber I watch stuck with me in that he said that whenever people talk about BA they always talk about the story, the characters, the music, etc
But he wished that more people talked about "BA the GAME"
And I absolutely agree
Although
I will say it is a very acquired taste
Some people hate it
And I can see why
i was gonna say, the only time ive heard people talk about the game itself was to complain
Yeah I think the most you're going to hear of the game is everything besides the gameplay
I really like the endgame boss fights
some pvp thing iirc
what's honse gameplay like then?
like i said i don't think i've ever seen gameplay for it
Oh yeah
Im making a video that will touch on that and caution against aspects that be turnoffs to some players (And post here after asking for and hopefully getting the mods' blessings to do so)
Cuz I think it's even more of an acquired taste
But a simple version of it is:
aspects that be turnoffs
no degeneracy hopefully
Honse is probably one of the least degen games out there
Horses you pull are not characters you build forever like in other games
They're "templates" that you can use in the game's training mode
Think of it like different starting characters in a roguelike
In the training mode you decide what to do on each turn (Training X stat, running a race) and keep going until you finish that horse's career goals
The effectiveness of the training is affected by RNG, which can be affected also by support cards you can bring with you to train
After a run is finished the output is saved, like a savegame from a roguelike
And you can take that output and use it to do content in the game, like Pvp or some events
The biggest potential turnoff for players in my opinion is going to be two things: pvp in gacha, and how heavy the rng is
There's rng in training, and rng in how well you run your races
So there's a lot of grinding hoping for good runs
It's almost like if you took genshin artifact farming and turned it into its own game
that would sound like a turnoff to some people, ye
Smh thats not even true
I love it cuz it's very satisfying to me to take that rng and skew it towards my favor
idk "the most annoying part of hoyo games as a standalone" is a good pitch yea
Yeah it's not
Which is why Im making the video
I wanna let people know what they're getting themselves into
But also at the same time explain why despite all that I love the game and have been going strong on it for three years
So that anyone who hears what I have to say can decide if they want to try it or it's a dealbreaker
I will never win 100% of the time but I love the gameplay of working towards and making my chances as good as they can possibly be
And being at peace with that outcome knowing that I've tried my best
today i have been blessed
get that bread
probably not a bad idea, yeah
that said, you're probably not the only one who'll do such a video
invariably, every time a new gacha goes global, there's a ton of random content creators who jump on that shit
so at the very least, you'd be one who has actual experience with the game
zzz 2.0 story ||i just started and got to waifei peninsula and the comic book cutscene where wise/yixuan's airship gets shot down has a guy that sounds a whole lot like the mayor say "target acquired" and then a VA that sounds a whole lot like sarah be the one that confirms they shot the airship down. mayor could not be any more sus right now||
Yeah I hate the idea of people who see the outside of horse being a really shiny new game
And set themselves up for disappointment once they realize how niche the game actually is
I want as many people as possible to come play this game but only if they're going to enjoy it
And if they know just from hearing the elevator pitch that there's zero chance that they will then it's better that they don't even try if they know for sure they won't like it
||At this point I would be shocked the Mayor wasn't the amogus sus||
Yeeeeeeeeees
a Gracefull standard pull today
oh god she talks in all caps
but her fit is crazy good
are u chain cancelling? as in going into the stun window with your buffs from lighter -> into eve -> cancelling after he chain -> swap to lighter to trigger the chain -> back to eve?
yes
then it may just be timing execution
and/or more min-maxed gear
thank you my goat full stop
now i know im not going to get fucked going for orphie and manato and yuzuha in one patch
but alice is cute too but will probably have to skip
chess!?
- d4 response?
Man remember the auto chess wave
ZZZ performance in the new ZZZ wide open investigation regions seems kinda shit
oh god this new temple management mode
i'm going to spend far longer doing this shit than i ought to, i can tell
minigames like this scratch an itch in my brain
ain't no way anby was my most used
i figured for sure it'd be miyabi or zhu yuan
i can't even remember the last time i used anby outside of combat trials forcing you to use her lol
Yeah this data seems very weird
ah it's based on number of commissions used, not total playtime or anything
makes some sort of sense then since i would've used her on a shitton of early game commissions
later reward is "agent of the year"
allows player to choose
only provides 3 choices
evelyn is not one of them (it's anby, miyabi, and yanagi)
i'm sorry my love
????? she's at 348 commissions and anby was at 28 but anby won? make it make sense
what's the website
Its ingame
it's the golden proxy awards event in-game
Ahh
Man that attack ain't lying
EZ-8 really hit the hardest
It can already dishes out more damage than Exia even at lower level

it may have shit terrain
but by god it compensates
seeing the ez-8, was that the requiem for a vengeance gundam supposed to be based on
I can see it
It's the earliest we got an all-white Gundam suit IIRC
And RfV Gundam is clearly build to live up "white devil" moniker
Both also has red eyes huh
til blue archive is getting added to steam at some point
i hope we get some details on yuzuha's kit before yixuan's banner runs out
if she looks cracked i might skip fufu and just save for her
in which case i actually want yixuan's sig
just played through the 2.0 story and yixuan is fun af
feels like her playstyle is all gas no brakes and that's with me not playing anywhere close to optimal lol
planning to skip both since i feel like yanagi and miyabi should be rerunning soon
need to prepare myself for that
miyabi rerun after yixuan would be diabolical
your telling me.
Astra rerun feels out of left field since she was after those two so now im scared
who is left that hasnt been reran yet i want to see if i estimate when they will return
unfortunately, this shit resets weekly
so i have to do it every week lmao
also one or more of the pledges change with the weekly reset
so that's "fun"
at least the hismena one is fairly straightforward
the isuka one is just tedious as hell
and i haven't even tried the new cetie and myrus ones yet
another QEQ dupe from social pulls
hey that's MLB for her when I want
maybe it's time to finally break the 200 barrier
My internet is shitting itself, but also everything else seems to be working fine... except for Nikke.
Is anyone else having trouble with Nikke right now?
Never mind. It's behaving now.
I forgot how long it takes to farm materials to max out a character
I havent even gotten to the discs yet 😔
Everyone here should be pretty evergreen, right?
evergreen in what sense?
i wouldn't put money on any given DPS being evergreen, supports are the one true gacha meta lol
alice is already getting powercrept (and is annoying to use properly anyway), privaty is increasingly obsolete as a flex character since there are typically just better ones to use and she has anti-synergy with some teams
and even today's top support isn't necessarily evergreen
QEQ and bunny soda are already not even top tier DPS, and bunny soda especially only sees use in one specific niche she could quickly get kicked out of if a better character in that niche comes along
naga is probably the most evergreen character there and even she has risk of being powercrept mostly because she needs a duo partner to really shine and that inherently makes her less versatile than a theoretical future broken solo B2 support (see: crown)
fwiw, all of those characters are Good Enough that if not being able to break 200 is impeding your progression (i.e., you're sitting on a large bucket of leveling mats), i'd just take the plunge
if i can function with having 3 characters i literally never use perma-locked in synchro, you can definitely function with 5 potentially niche ones
ye
I wanted to replace Rapunzel before I pushed through, at least
god damn ZZZ 2.0 released with a lot of content lol
i've been playing nearly the whole day and i'm not even caught up to everything. finished the story and making my way through the side content now
story was quite good, reinforcing to me that the main weakness of recent chapters is honestly that they were trying to do too much at the same time. this chapter was basically focused on one central plot and better for it
also ||while i liked the cliffhanger at the end with the ethereal made from yuxian/yinjiang's memory (couldn't tell whose it was), i gotta say that i'm starting to find the exaltists tiresome. they're comically evil and have an overarching "just according to keikaku" reaction to literally everything, including what should (seemingly) be major defeats handed to them by the main cast. they apparently have a laundry list of plans and machinations and every time we stop one it's "welp, onto the next one" without much further ado, which sort of detracts from the narrative when it wants to portray the protags as achieving some great victory||
also also recency bias be damned, yixuan is probably my second favorite character now, honestly maybe even tied for first with eve. the more i see and play her the more she clicks with me in every way, from looks (insert dog barking gif here) to personality to how satisfying her gameplay is
i had her written down as an attack agent idk why lol
surprised at anomaly
but also, this surely means that yuzuha will buff physical
also shes a rich girl who knows/knew lucy
this is how we get to the outer ring once again
i'm going through the golden mech event right now and... did hoyo forget to put billy's voice filter on his lines? lol
thus far do not really care that much about yuzuha or alice's designs
but the probability of me pulling yuzuha is high simply by merit of her being an S rank support
alice is so rare for a hoyo design
shes symmetrical
and girl wearing sneakers
honestly her fit is quite generic tho
but i think thats okay
though i'd hate it if she is tailor made for jane
she has homophobia tho
thats it tho
no thigh strap in one leg and not the other
no random like
one loose sleeve
lol damian
||agree on exaltists def feeling too one-note. but i still half-expect them to not be the true villains||
i cant wait for yuzuha to troll the shit out of alice. she seems like a fun character so far (all of spook shack overall)
never really vibed with the trolly/prankster archetypes in any game so i continue to be unenthusiastic
You’re interrupting yaoi, step aside
IDK what it is but Arknights events are almost always a blast
we are definitely nakhimov gaming (there's even a 6th purple one waiting outside the queue)
obviously MTL but it's enough to get the gist: she's dedicated anomaly support
lets goo
seemingly not disorder-focused though
yeah figured cus of alice
seems to apply a debuff that basically changes her damage to be the same type as whatever other agent you're using
yeah she seems to be decently universal in this form too
wonder if she'll make it past the beta
a dedicated anomaly support that basically changes damage to whichever anomaly type you're using sounds pretty cracked
gonna be a question of numbers
for sure
I quite like this one
we get more iberia content, we get the "oops we made the inquisition too good" and a cool antagonist out of it, we get the gremlin
salt flat sea is also a really cool concept
hmmm yuzuha being dedicated anomaly support does affect my plans somewhat
if she was good with yixuan i was going to skip fufu and just get yixuan's sig
evidently though she's not good with yixuan so i think i'm staying the course with getting fufu
but even then i'm kinda unsure
honestly would be worth to wait for fufu's release
idk if she will be significantly stronger than the 3rd option that exists rn
i know it was only trial characters but fufu felt pretty weak in her test play sessions
yepp
thats
been the overall consensus from beta too
shes like
fine
she has better buffs than trigger in the same role
but so far, they have been super careful with off field stunners
trigger, pulchra (until m6), and fufu have all been just okay
the best stunner being lighter still
i feel like the consensus i've heard is that trigger is actually really fucking strong tho
but maybe that's specifically with sig

m0p1 trigger > fufu
but still worse than lighter
at least for the niche of eve or ellen or hugo
thing is that i don't have trigger or pulchra m6
if i did i'd skip fufu
but without them fufu fills a role i don't have in my roster
yeah me having m6 pulchra absolutely changes things for my own pull plans
i do have her sig
yeah i think i cant justify fufu being so okay
if i have another unit with similar power especially with m6p1
i'm still struggling tbh
because realistically i'd be getting fufu specifically for yixuan
i doubt i'd use her anywhere else, since basically any other team that'd benefit from a stunner has a better one (qingyi or lighter)
idk
yeah
like
you do have qingyi and lighter
so idk if theres another team where u would really use fufu
plus i love trigger as a character so i'm 100% getting her on a rerun and likely her sig too
at which point she gaps fufu lol
m0p1 trigger is absolutely stronger for more characters too
tbh might just get yixuan sig and deal with having suboptimal pan + pulchra as her teammates (since astra is eve locked)
her sig probably makes up the difference anyway lol
honestly, u would probs use nicole
that's fine since nicole used to be locked to zhu yuan but now why would i use zhu over yixuan
wait u have caesar
yeah
she is still good despite being more limited than other options
was thinking about getting her sig too
honestly
nicole and rina being a bit more mid on yixuan cus the sheer force damage does ignore some def but it doesnt stack with nicole
it'd probs lean into caesar then
pulling for 2 sigs in a patch makes me want to vomit in my mouth a bit
just get the event a rank wengine
idk next patch's reruns either, if eve is running i'm getting her sig
its a defense wengine with impact
wait what
the film event
caesar has an actual on-class wengine now that isn't her sig
it's a miracle
hoyo does this
almost a year into
and she's getting a reru
rerun
its easier to sell a character than a wengine
its not the best effect but the sub is great for her and the effect is okay
uggggh
said "fuck it we ball." 40 pulls later
so i got yixuan and her sig in 70 pulls total, bout time i had some good luck in this game
also got one copy of pan's sig on the way which is a nice bonus
p good wengine too
they always knock it out of the park when animating characters
vivian is umbrella sword. yuzuha is umbrella gun.
and both yuzuha and alice along with belle and wise summer skins?
if zzz is dropping skins constantly it may be over for me
and yuzuha synergizes with kaboom the cannon too
oh fuck tho yuzuha's wengine is pretty nutty for anom characters
well im dumb
there we go
that said idk if it beats kaboom
and alice seems to be miyabi but physical more or less
different application
but this trend now kinda points to us getting an f2p crit anomaly engine down the line
reading alice's kit tho man she'd be clunky af with yuzuha
she builds crit not am/ap
but yuzuha wants you to care about am/ap
jane miyabi and alice are all in theory the best to work off yuzuha
but miyabi has built-in ways to get am/ap and jane has built-in ways to get crit
this leaves alice in a weird spot
that said, jane vivi yuzu will go extremely hard
manato most likely s rank now
fuuck
zzz has me pulling almost every patch
at least we are getting a dumptruck load of pulls this patch
why she clean with it
damnnn
guess my top ups are gone now
i need that yuzuha girl
physical + ap scaling
my jane will be so happy to have someone help her stack anomalys
without putting the dmg down the shitter
yuzuha is astra for anomaly yeah
i hope her kit remains good-great with kaboom
also alice is aura farming but i do have jane so hype for her is diminished
her base kit doing extra anomaly proccs for assimilated and atk boost makes her decent enough at m0
yea fs
also 25% dmg boost for janes crit assault
with vivian bloom sounds really good to me
because i swear i did struggle a bit with lost void until i farmed with jane astra and vivian
shit is crazy ez now
with the first ultimate gear
and the special jane gear that give her that crazy ex attack
had like 100% ult uptime
(f)lying (f)lame did leak that jane was getting buffed next. ig he wasnt lying for once since it'll be yuzuha
imo all i need for jane is better anomaly appliance
because the first 2-3 go smooth but then the stacking up generall resistance makes it pretty wacky
my greedy ass was punished trying to get m6 panda
now i have m2 yixuan
m6 pan and pulchra off this banner
m6 seth too
i think i do have every a rank at m6 now
yup
m6 pulchra, m6 piper, m6 lucy, m6 soukaku, m6 billy, m6 nicole, m6 pan, m6 ben, m6 anton, m6 anby, m6 seth, m6 corin
ye
missing panda
i just annoyed because i did it too quick wanted to pull on astra banner just in case i get the m2
fair lol
winning too hard
too fast
honestly tho im more focused on grinding the new daze set
god
i need to update so many characters
also, i need disc loadouts
cus i do use lycaon for support and for astral
and i've been building nicole to have astral and jazz
too many needs for multiple sets
would like a loadout page
I can see the other unit being a zeta related suit
Coz the event also allows the zeta series for some reason
[GAMEPLAY SHOWCASE]
Corrosion Sentinel | Lind https://t.co/BIrtRSAb6e
QRT: 404_Griffin
[RETURNING T-DOLL]
LINDSG Tactical Doll AA-12, also known as Lind the medical test subject Doll is making her grand return to the Exiles https://t.co/MV0F7SnnR2
Lind/AA12 next on CN
based
She's fucking akimboing AA12s based
[ATTIRE SHOWCASE & UPGRADE]
Lind's GFL1 swimsuit "The Sun Never Rises" confirmed to return as a static legacy skin
Furthermore Sharkry's swimsuit "Swimsuit Idol" is set to receive the Accessory Upgrade with this patch and likely within the next few patches for EN as well https://t.co/UnWl5mxvWQ
QRT: 404_Griffin
[RETURNING T-DOLL]
LINDSG Tactical Doll AA-12, also known as Lind the medical test subject Doll is making her grand return to the Exiles https://t.co/MV0F7SnnR2
Filmed in 5.5 before the new boss area was added
Alice being physical surprises me
I figured shed be electric
Guess I need to save for Yuzuha
... so I have to hope I win the 50/50 on Astra
wonder what suits are in tough as nails and unstoppable
wing and tallgeese are in unstoppable
I got Frau Support with Tough as Nail tags, so I've been building that team in awhile
I'm surprised Ez-8 is one, it's one hell of buff since I got it
i dont have the tough as nails tag support so i cant check
best i can do is see what roster is in tough as nails
didnt see a wing suit there, mostly zeta
Alas, UR Papsmear also in that tag
urgh
pain
Oh Gato Gelgoog also one huh
For non Gacha unit, the worthy one are the Psycho Gundams, Over.on, G-3, & Zeong, & ZZ
with yuzuha being dedicated anomaly support, i wonder what the 2.1 reruns will be
i'd expect yanagi to be one of them
maybe miyabi? would feel kinda weird alongside alice considering their skills seem to be set up very similarly
but if they release a f2p crit anomaly engine in 2.1 a miyabi rerun would be blessed
could be burnice too, she's the only other anomaly agent that hasn't either released or rerun recently
burnice ran alongside vivian, no?
oh yeah she did get a rerun
wasn't with vivian though, was with sanby
i completely forgot that though lmao
well if they want to double down on anomaly alongside yuzuha then the only viable candidates are yanagi and miyabi unless they want to give vivi/jane/burnice some of the fastest reruns ever (unlikely, especially since jane is physical anomaly like alice)
but no guarantee they go double anomaly
i'm coping for an eve rerun since we just got lighter and astra b2b
it's failing... with style
New Assumed Story Sequence for GFL2: (Jun 2025)
Retcon/Rewrite Hell
Jiangyu (no story, only 4k words in CN)
Chapter 0 - Major Event [Glass Island]
Chapter 1 to 8 - Main Campaign
Chapter 8.3 - Daiyan's Character Event
Chapter 8.6 - Reissi's Character Event
Chapter 9 to 10 - Major Event [Aphelion]
Chapter 11 to 12 - Major Event [Deep Oblivion]
Chapter 12.5 - Lenna's Character Event
Unknown Main Story Chapter - Major Event [Mimisbrunnr's Reprise]
Post Aphelion:
Vector
Andoris
Belka
Yoohee…
Lenna rewritten event soonish
she might just also be good enough outside of anomaly
WHAT
if so then the "supports are always the best horizontal investment units" wisdom for gacha games is undefeated
This guy looks like he would dropped comet as his special attack
not the actual name, just a reference plushie made
costume name is just sabazios
Since they didn't make GP01 the UR for Stardust Memory I still have all my gems lol
I might roll for Wing Zero
my guess when they do stardust memory part 2
GP03 with the Dendrobium would be the banner unit
Some suit that is related to the tag of eternal road that a GP03 will be with
i feel like gp03 base and Neue Ziel would be the developable SSRs
quatre is made to work with the wing zero developable SSR it seems, his typing matches up
makes sense, he did develop it canonically
Better than using SR Heero lol
I really hope Quatre has buffs to improve the accuracy
man i'm really struggling with whether or not to get yixuan's skin
i love both her base and her skin tbh
knowing you, you will cave and get it eventually
idk, normally i don't end up getting skins unless they immediately appeal in ways the base appearance doesn't
you were originally uninterested in little mermaid's skin and caved afterward
that is like the one exception i can recently think of
and legit it's like 90% because her burst animation sold me on it
which obviously i wasn't able to see until it was actually in game
and couldn't compare to her base burst ani until i got her... on the last day of her banner lol
anyway yixuan's base is slightly more goon and her skin is more elegant, but her base also fits the aesthetic of the game and her faction more imo so the consistency is a point in its favor too
i do remember thinking her sig wengine effects look cooler with her skin tho
everything you're saying is just further convincing me you'll cave
is it? i even said her base is more goon
degenerate that i am, goon is an important factor
The stocking thigh asmr tho
true!
unfortunate
i haven't much cared for any ZZZ skin so far except yixuan's
I'm not in front of the game rn
But the pink bomber and top really speak to me
or something
super meh on astra, ellen, and nicole's
tangentially
I gotta find a way to clean up 26 gigs on my phone....
or rush order a steam deck to bring on vacation....
i really like their base appearances and their skins are sorta whatever so idt i'll be buying either pass or the gacha for her
they each get a free skin tho
however i will be getting stellar blade CE for that scarlet skin
i know, but free is free lol. no decision necessary
blessed
eve gets keyhole dress for free and raven gets planet diving suit thingy, no idea what either of them look like
here's what they look like
skin suit is the gacha skin for eve
(which i will not be posting here)
they look decent enough
i know the gooners will look at them and think they cover them too much but as far as that goes, i prefer them to the basic school outfits the eva characters got
yeah they look fine to me. also they don't show the back for the shooting pose which is where a lot of the attention clearly went lol
wew