#Gacha Chat

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old galleon
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bro is slipping

slow raft
honest pawn
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not even top 5 pm women unfortunately

slow raft
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Truth be told, shes not even top 5 in her age bracket

old galleon
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i can definitely do a lot more, just probably end up replacing izuna with lloyd or something

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but this still full clears so i'm not gonna bother

rapid bough
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it's been 84 years

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wish the +3 was on CD instead of CR but w/e, i'm not using a CR wengine so i actually need the extra

runic ether
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no yeah this is good

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especially cus no dead subs

rapid bough
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only about 6 hours til nikke anni livestream

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i 100% will be asleep but i'ma queue it up to count as a viewer when it airs since i want free pulls

old galleon
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refought time anti-spiral since i got bored, beat it with a random-ass comp despite both sesta and aldo dying in the middle of it

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fight has definitely been powercrept to hell and back

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(although you do need to account for its gimmicks still)

old galleon
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what a based clear

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19 turn f2p of edaxian zennon ogre's shadow

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shoutout to the devs for adding artificial difficulty in making his hp bar invisible by hiding it under the character ui

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also senya is goated and i will hear no argument to the contrary

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i actually prefer his as to his ns overall, but his ns is better here bc his as lacks stellar burst and, more importantly, zennon ogre is weak to shade (which his ns form's strongest skills are) but absorbs fire (which his as form's strongest skill is)

timber sigil
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@rapid bough @idle grove we made it

idle grove
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👀

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peak

wispy goblet
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It's time

versed pawn
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1 minute

mortal iron
slow raft
versed pawn
wispy goblet
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@rapid bough tell me when you watch the anni promo

slow raft
old galleon
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didn't get to watch stream obv, gonna post stuff in spoilers in case people want to go watch/figure it out for themselves

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popularity poll winner: ||rapi red hood took it by around 30k, 1.39m to 1.36m over cindy||
new nikke: ||both little mermaid and mihara overspec announced||
skins: ||CINDY, grave, mihara, little mermaid all have skins being released||
other event?: ||so idk how to interp it but there's a screen of a "road to villain" event claiming to award drake||
half anni welfare: ||someone named mori||
collab: ||reminding people the stellar blade collab exists and will release in june this year||

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that's on top of what i'd think are the usual goodies, like full burst announcement, new stages for lost sector and tribe tower, skill reset, etc

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idk yet if there's new synchro device material being given

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stream link if anyone needed it

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the other one

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oh wait i goofed

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when i searched for it on youtube the first link was the one...from 2023

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this is why you wait until you're fully awake to do things

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anyway, that link's the one for this y ear

rapid bough
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oh dear

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that mihara gacha skin...

old galleon
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yeah you're fucking cooked lmao

rapid bough
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the little mermaid one is really cute too but i might be able to resist

old galleon
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||CECIL WON FAVORITE NPC LMAO||

rapid bough
old galleon
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considering hype around a certain later story character i'm really surprised

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(but my candidate won so i'll gladly take it)

old galleon
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other miscellaneous popularity poll results

rapid bough
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honestly this grave skin looks quite peak as well and i might get it

long tree
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||mihara overspec over anis||
KEKW people will be pissed

rapid bough
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i bet it'll be 3rd anni

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or maybe new year's, similar to rapi

long tree
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3rd anni with hansel and Gretel

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Absolutely cook peoples wallets

old galleon
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rapture: ||ultra||
costume: ||khaios' favorite gacha skin from the last few months||
normal event: ||new year, new sword||
grand event: ||old tales||
sr nikke: ||anis (as if it'd be anyone else||
r nikke: ||soldier eg||
top rising nikke (compared to last year): ||helm||
manufacturer: ||1. pilgrim 2. elysion 3. tetra 4. missilis||
squad (on average): ||old tales||
supporter/attacker/defender: ||dorothy, rapi red hood, cinderella||

rapid bough
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btw livestream cd keys:

NIKKEUNDERSEA
THXMISSILIS
TACTICALBUBBLE
BUBBLEPARADISEYO

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lots of free gems, pulls, etc, and the missilis code has 2 synchro slots

old galleon
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oh there we go

slow raft
rapid bough
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more grave skin, it does cover her legs which is a loss

old galleon
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the grave one is peak

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we don't have enough women in suits in gacha games (limbus probably notwithstanding)

glossy latch
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This barely counts

slow raft
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Also ||drake event|| is pog

old galleon
slow raft
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I got my news from what you posted so i wouldnt know

old galleon
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aight

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screen of ||the drake thing|| along with some other misc reveals

honest pawn
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they don't do suits for the female sinners much anymore (though it's still pretty common)

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last one was

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probably the wuthering heights ID's?

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which was last year

old galleon
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okay some nitty gritty from stream

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little mermaid kit: ||wind b1 supporter, skills not revealed but summarized as being able to enhance atk of herself and other nikkes, while using bubbles to weaken the enemy||

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||yes, wind, not water||

honest pawn
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ugh I missed outis

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and now I need to wait like

slow raft
honest pawn
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a year to spark for her

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that sucks man

honest pawn
old galleon
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mihara: bonding chain kit: ||fire b3 attacker, summarized as using a "restraint chain" to continuously attack the enemy, with her burst enhancing the chain; apparently this is gonna count as sustained damage||

rapid bough
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||it'll be interesting to see how they balance siren as a b1... if she doesn't have CDR she'll automatically be difficult to use, but if she does i'm sure she'll be hilariously OP||

old galleon
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mori kit: ||wind b2 defender with a shield and taunt, and when her shield breaks apparently she can make a stronger one||

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anis complaining about not getting a skin

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she is beginning to breach containment

rapid bough
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also the teaser for the next main story chapters was pretty gas. ||revealed a new heretic (one of the two remaining four beasts, though we don't know whether it's ziz or bahamut), commander being gravely wounded and leviathan powering up from his vapaus blood, and levi+new!heretic finding rapi's old body from when her head was lasered off in... chapter 3?||

old galleon
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anyway, hopefully i can get both of them

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i have mileage to get one, but will have to cope for the other

rapid bough
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21 free pulls on each + all the free pulls we'll get throughout the event... you'll prolly be fine

old galleon
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given my track record with rapi, i don't have my hopes up

rapid bough
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don't make me point at the triple cindy sign

old galleon
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||they made gluttony look like an enormous turd lmao||

old galleon
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i don't think i can be classified as a noob anymore

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despite what exia says

rapid bough
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i really am tempted to get both now that i see them side by side

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honestly missed opportunity since grave and cindy don't really work well together in gameplay

wispy goblet
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The skins are very nice

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I'm very tempted

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But everything altogether will be like $160

old galleon
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yeah as usual i'm passing on the skins

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they're all great, don't get me wrong

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but that cost isn't something i can justify right now lol

rapid bough
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the mihara gacha skin has already taken $60 from my wallet and it's not even released yet

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and i'll probably get the grave skin too

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hopefully going to resist the little mermaid and cindy skins

wispy goblet
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Maybe I'll get Cindy skin
The Mihara Overspec is very tempting but it'd be mostly for the lobby screen and I don't know when or even if I'll triple dupe her

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Also depends on what the lobby screen freezes at

rapid bough
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just like last time with the cindy skin, they smile-gated her skin

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but it is a beautiful smile

rapid bough
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e.g. SBS's gacha skin burst is my favorite lobby screen and i don't have her MLB'd

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speaking of SBS gacha skin, it won the favorite costume voting which is blessed

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really is peak

wispy goblet
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Oh

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Hmmmmmm

wispy goblet
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It'll depend on what it freezes on

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I'll probably get Cindy skin off the pass, at least

old galleon
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||mihara asmr teased||

rapid bough
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also stellar blade collab confirmed for june

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which makes it worth a reminder that the summer event last year started early july

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we may very well get a collab into limited seasonals b2b

old galleon
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they're doing a baseball thing including an mlb game in june lol

rapid bough
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rip pull savings

old galleon
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(of course it's a dodgers game)

rapid bough
old galleon
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doesn't tove have a baseball skin

rapid bough
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yes

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sigh, now starts the agonzing wait after a major event preview until the event actually happens

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it's my content and i want it now!

old galleon
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man if anis gets an overspec in the next 350 or so days she's gonna destroy the popularity contest

rapid bough
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basically guaranteed she does

old galleon
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and i say this knowing cindy, little mermaid, mihara, and possibly others will all be popular

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they even gave anis a moment toward the end of the stream

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you know people eat that up

rapid bough
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my favorite part of the stream was when michelle marie (anis VA) was imitating mustang's voice, that had me rolling

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i love how down michelle marie is with all her anis voiceover activities

slow raft
old galleon
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it's a foregone conclusion at this point

rapid bough
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her 3rd anni overspec release will feed families

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side note, i guess we're just getting 2 banners per anni event now

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since this makes two in a row that have two banners

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how long until we start getting 3 banners peepoS

wispy goblet
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I wonder
do I skip on one of the SSRs

slow raft
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I still have 400 mileage so i should be good for now

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Wont stop me from gambling tho

rapid bough
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i know it'll be hard to be patient but remember to at least use your 21 free daily rolls before betting the house or all your mileage on one of em

wispy goblet
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but what about the event currency

rapid bough
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i'll bet you can get to 100% without them lol

wispy goblet
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nah but I'm seriously considering not investing any currency into one of them
to preserve bank

slow raft
wispy goblet
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I could just cash out my mileage and get both

rapid bough
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purely in terms of gambling odds, mileage is best used for pilgrim banners since they have the lowest rates

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but with more collab + seasonal units coming up, understandable to save guarantees for those instead

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besides, we don't even know how good or bad the new units will be

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safe to assume they'll be good ofc, but one might be broken OP and the other just merely decent so easier to skip

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shades of what happened with cindy/grave last time

wispy goblet
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Mihara Overspec has half odds like pilgrims, right?

rapid bough
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yes

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ever since rapihood, when i say "pilgrim" i really mean "pilgrim + overspec"

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since they combined those into one category

wispy goblet
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I'll see what the nerds say

rapid bough
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little mermaid will live and die on whether she has good CDR, which to me probably means she will because no way they release an anni pilgrim b1 that's DOA due to not having CDR

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mihara probably just gonna be a BIS DPS in sustained damage teams, which is nice since their options are basically non-existent right now, especially if you don't have last year's summer units

old galleon
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if it matters for your evaluation of units, mihara overspec would be available for use both in missilis and pilgrim/overspec towers

rapid bough
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i'll bet little mermaid will be a must-pull, combine "supports are always the best gacha units" with "anni pilgrim" and she should be a smash grab

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see: crown from last year

old galleon
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so you get to double dip with her if you wanted

old galleon
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gacha games need more women in suits

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i will shout it from the rooftops if i have to

rapid bough
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as ovven said, she almost doesn't count lol

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but she's got the aesthetic and that's what matters

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  • the glasses slay
old galleon
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almost doesn't count doesn't mean doesn't count : ^)

rapid bough
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i do find it funny that despite nikke generally being memed as the booty/thigh game, that skin has slacks that cover up the goods but has the top wide open

wispy goblet
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If Cindy is a $20 skin I'll probably get it

rapid bough
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it will be

old galleon
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cindy's not a gacha skin iirc

rapid bough
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i'm sure it's a pass skin

old galleon
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burst was the normal one instead of unique

rapid bough
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whether it's the monthly pass or the event pass, idk

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the animation skeleton is also the same as her base

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gacha skins get different skeletons

slow raft
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At best ill consider the grave skin

wispy goblet
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Grave's is nice
but I don't know if it's $20 nice for me

old galleon
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as for rapi, i just hope people don't like, vote on a carbon copy of something red hood wears

wispy goblet
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they might
but that assumes that will be one of the skin options we get

rapid bough
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mihara skin is instabuy (god help me)
grave skin i will almost certainly succumb to getting before the event is out
cindy skin is close behind but i think i'll resist
little mermaid skin is likely an easy pass

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i do think the little mermaid skin is hella cute but it just doesn't do enough? she honestly still looks quite similar to base, just with a smile (which is blessed, but not enough)

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that said, if i buy enough gacha skins surely i will eventually hit the jackpot and get one in $20 Copium

summer hornet
slow raft
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Ill look at the mihara skin once im no longer in public lmao

rapid bough
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that is wise

old galleon
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and when she does she's gonna hard carry the following popularity poll

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barring something unexpected happening

rapid bough
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this time next year the popularity poll will go overspec anis > cindy > little mermaid > crown > doro, probably KEKW

old galleon
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if anyone can recreate what cindy had this year, then she'd have some competition

rapid bough
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actually i guess that doesn't account for whoever we get for new years

wispy goblet
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damn is Cindy gonna be the next eternal second

old galleon
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remains to be seen

rapid bough
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tbh

old galleon
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if it were neon overspec instread, i think cindy would have a pretty good chance

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esp since she almost beat rapi

rapid bough
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the story seems like it's building toward us teaming up with at least some of the four beasts (especially levi), so she might be on the cards for 3rd anni/new year's

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we shall see

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especially if we get little mermaid to join us after this + new campaign story, that should turn into a major factor to make an ally of levi

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that said, little mermaid becoming part of the main story might not be concurrent with this event

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guess we'll have to wait and see

old galleon
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ye

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anyway, looks like double anni banners are here to stay

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so that'll be fun

rapid bough
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god help us if we ever start getting 3/event

wispy goblet
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rewatching the event

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they're rewarding event pulls with mats

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they really want people to pull and not cash in mileage huh

old galleon
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of course

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what is a gacha game if people don't interact with the core mechanic

rapid bough
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well keep in mind we get 21 free pulls, so at least on this screen that's a guarantee for one of the rewards without spending anything

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and it looks like subsequent rewards for doing more will refund at least some pulls

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e.g. that bottom one giving 10 pull vouchers

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hopefully those reward tracks don't require pulling absurd amounts like 100+

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and/or hopefully they don't give such absurd rewards that you feel almost obligated to pull for them

old galleon
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does that recruitment benefits thing really only last 2 weeks

rapid bough
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

old galleon
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bc if so you lose out on 7 free draws

rapid bough
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attaching an event to pulling on the banner and not making it run for the duration of the banner would be diabolical

old galleon
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agreed, but i wouldn't put it past any gacha game to pull something like that

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even one as nominally generous as nikke

rapid bough
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(literal) showerthought that occurred to me

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little mermaid may not need CDR

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they could make her a "re-enter burst 1" unit

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i think we only have two of those so far, tia and bunny alice

summer hornet
wispy goblet
old galleon
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i run tia/liter all the time

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just another tuesday for me

slow raft
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^

summer hornet
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Man I really forgot some of this

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Part of me wants to blitz through levels to reach the good AUs faster, but at the same time revisiting the storyline like this is really enjoyable

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And I've never seen ZZ lol

slow raft
old galleon
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gacha games need more women in bodysuits

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on a serious note, i'd love to see more men in bodysuits

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the only one i can immediately think of to have one (sorta) is cu

summer hornet
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I would bet money LAD has some

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But that's on the far side of the market

old galleon
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what's that?

summer hornet
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Love and Deepspace

old galleon
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oh

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(yes i have actually heard of that one)

summer hornet
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You know what I mean then

old galleon
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only sorta

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i've never seen gameplay or character designs for it

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i've just seen the game come up in conversations about some sort of controversy

slow raft
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I thought limbus company had some but the closest we have are the r corp units and that doesnt really count

idle grove
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i actually dont know that LAD has gameplay

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I have literally never seen any

rapid bough
# rapid bough they could make her a "re-enter burst 1" unit

continued showerthought: this might work best if their goal is to one day make the entire old tales squad a functional one

we have grave/cindy as b2 and b3 respectively, now little mermaid is b1... assuming we one day get hansel/gretel, the team makes the most sense if little mermaid is a re-enter b1 because that lets one of hansel/gretel be b1, and the other be b3

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alternatively this is unbelievable cope/tinfoil because the old tales team was kinda DOA anyway since grave doesn't even buff cindy

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and hansel/gretel are literally a perfect duo candidate

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so having them be separate bursts on the ladder would be strange

old galleon
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there is nothing stopping little mermaid from being regular b1 and hansel or gretel being a re-enter b2 in that situation

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having them being separate bursts would be fine

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they're still in the same squad and would still be playable as such

rapid bough
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to be clear there's nothing stopping little mermaid from being a regular b1 to begin with lol

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i'm just having fun with an alternative to the current "meta b1 has CDR" rut we find ourselves in

old galleon
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or they could do a re-enter b3 and completely screw with how b3s work

rapid bough
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i'm down for shift up trying new wacky shit

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the pirate maids were our first functional b2 duo, never thought i'd see the day we got that either

old galleon
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the king and her royal student subject send their regards

rapid bough
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it does feel like they've designed themselves into somewhat of a corner with b1 CDR units though that'll be hard to circumvent when trying to make new ones break into the meta

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the either don't try to circumvent it by doing one of two things:

  1. make the unit give CDR + OP buffs, in which case she's boring but gets the job done, obviously
  2. don't make the unit give CDR, in which case she's probably DOA
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or they do circumvent it by doing one of two things:

  1. re-enter b1 (allowing you to run a proper b1 CDR nikke)
  2. make the full burst window longer so CDR isn't as necessary (this is what bunny soda does and makes CDR surplus to requirement in shotgun teams)
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to my knowledge though we don't have a b1 that does the latter of those options

old galleon
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or they piss off the entire community by doing this one thing:

  • make the full burst window shorter
rapid bough
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there's also an unspoken option of "no CDR, no unique gimmick, but her buffs are so unbelievably broken that they make not running CDR justifiable"

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would be interested to see just how ridiculous they'd have to make those buffs to have the math work out

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though in this experiment, i am of course overlooking non-b1 CDR options like dolla and s.helm

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they do exist, even if they're weak

slow raft
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Ok but what if they make a b2 cdr unit so broken that youll actually want b1 non cdr units

old galleon
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overspec anis hiding in a corner somewhere

rapid bough
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well that's another design corner they've driven themselves into a bit because there aren't really a lot of good b1 non-CDR units lol

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rapihood and doro are the only ones i can think of that actually do reasonable damage

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and both of those give CDR KEKW

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almost all of the great buffers are also CDR units

slow raft
rapid bough
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well little mermaid isn't a b2, and we don't currently have a b2 CDR unit broken enough to justify making her a broken b1 non-CDR unit

slow raft
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They are simply doing the good b1 non cdr units before the super busted cdr b2 unit, trust

digital marlin
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Last pull i can do and it payed off

rapid bough
rapid bough
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grats

wispy goblet
rapid bough
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thinking of nikke anni, it occurs to me

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shouldn't ZZZ 1st anni be coming up soon? is that around when 2.0 is projected to drop?

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yeah ZZZ released july last year

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idk what hoyo game annis look like, especially this "early"

long tree
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Not good usually, hsr is a special case idk if they'll be as good, hopefully they will

rapid bough
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but if the anni is in july, then some quick mental math assuming 2.0 drops after vivian/hugo patch should put it some time in june

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which is a bit awkward

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could do anni stuff (if there is any they want to do) in the second half of that patch i guess

slow raft
mortal iron
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space oomfie got hands im getting my ass beat in ZZ levels

runic ether
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both genshin and hsr have adopted a free 5 star into the rotation for anniv

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we usually get a ton of pulls

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like going from the usual 10 pulls a patch log-in to 20-30

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they also usually do top up resets for whales lol

rapid bough
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resetting the 2x cash shop bonuses on anni is pretty standard across all gacha games i've noticed

runic ether
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yeah gotta get the dolphins fed

rapid bough
runic ether
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idk...

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i feel like standard 5 star would be pretty spot on

rapid bough
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i wouldn't be surprised if hoyo ramps up their anni rewards the older the game is as a gambit to draw in newer players, since that gets harder the older the game is

runic ether
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especially the latest dev talk of wanting to make sure that the ppl who love a character dont feel like that character gets outdated

rapid bough
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then again yeah, the ZZZ dev crew feels like the most player-minded hoyo team

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so we might get a pleasant surprise

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i just don't wanna get my hopes up based on what hoyo is doing for older games

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though HSR is only a year older than ZZZ so it's not some huge difference

runic ether
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yeah though hsr has been releasing 2 new 5 stars basically every single patch since

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launch

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since launch

rapid bough
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hasn't ZZZ done the same? lol

runic ether
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their roster is already close to genshin which is heading into year 5

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the pace feels super different idk

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oh its cus zzz's base roster was smaller

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oh you also notice it cus hsr has had rampant powercreep issues since launch tbh we just didnt notice it at the time cus there wasnt that much

rapid bough
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i feel like ZZZ has already had pretty significant powercreep too honestly

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it's just that the power floor for even "bad" characters is still high enough that it doesn't matter that much

runic ether
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a difference feeling that the devs have been pretty active at keeping lower characters up in some capacity and being honest about wanting to improve them already

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and with a lower roster size, its more manageable

torn shadow
rapid bough
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also a shoutout to lost void giving at least one game mode that incentivizes having tons of fun on older/weaker chars that may not otherwise be optimal for endgame content

runic ether
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we also got roadmapped that season 2 will bring buffs to older characters

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which is way more clear than hsr which waited until anniv to tell us in 2 patches from now, we'll finally get the old unit buffs

rapid bough
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yeah it's pretty obvious to me that lost void is basically a testing grounds for introducing new mechanics to existing chars if they end up needing buffs

runic ether
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and deadly assault too actually

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deadass has been good at telling the devs if things need up/down

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bc ppl will clear things with billy/anton/corin/jane and such

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but nekomata is nowhere to be seen for instance (or rarely)

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they also can see ellen struggle there despite it being something that would fit her niche

rapid bough
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lost 50/50s over my time playing have given me neko c3 so i would appreciate a buff lol

glossy latch
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Hey could be worse

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You could have 3 of her damn engine

rapid bough
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oof

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i have two of s11's engine but her engine is actually a very good generic attacker engine so i can't complain too much

runic ether
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at least its a pretty solid engine but oof

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yeah it'd be better as 11's

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lol

slow raft
rapid bough
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without knowing the math my guess is honestly that ellen's struggles are legitimately an m1 diff

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i can't believe how much better to play she feels with her m1

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that shit should be baseline

glossy latch
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The problem with Nekomatas engine is that it has few users, and none of the users are great™️

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It's at least good for hitting Miyabis breakpoints

slow raft
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Having parts of your kit locked behind more copies is still one of the evilest things hoyo does

runic ether
#

i've used it for billy when i have used 11, haru, and billy in one deadass run

slow raft
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Like sure it works on base or whatever

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Its still insane

runic ether
#

yeah fr. ellen's is the worst case cus she does feel "fine" at base, but its rough. genshin was particularly bad about it for a while

rapid bough
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her c1 basically triples her resource generation which is a huge portion of her damage

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she's so much more fun and effective with the extra generation

#

crazy difference tbh

runic ether
#

nowdays if i had to say a game tho, its hsr with how blatant a c1 bait is

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mydei goes from really good to "oh this is beyond broken" at c1

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night and day difference

runic ether
#

ice characters 🤝 bait c1s

rapid bough
slow raft
#

Yeah im glad that all my main gachas dont do this shit

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And also no weapons 🙏

rapid bough
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fuck weapon banners

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and specifically fuck hoyo weapon banners

runic ether
#

i've come around to weapon banner in genshin (i got 2 5 star weapons super early not too long ago) and in zzz they feel super optional still despite how bait they feel for the huge increases

rapid bough
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i give brown dust 2 a pass on its weapon banners for 3 reasons:

  1. you get a free pull per day on them
  2. the game is generous as hell on pulls, especially relative to the rates
  3. the non-signature weapon options are still very good, no sig weapon gates a massive power boost
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ZZZ weapon banners lately have ticked all the worst boxes

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they're becoming hugely important for character power, like 30%+ differences between having it and not

runic ether
#

super overtuned weapons yeah

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even if they are still very optional

rapid bough
#

i'm honestly shocked they release astra in a state where a free engine was almost equivalent to her sig wengine

runic ether
#

as long as they dont go hsr route

rapid bough
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she's the only character in recent memory that didn't have a massive diff between sig and next-best free option

runic ether
#

where a lightcone can end up being the only reason a character can function

#

castorice is so evil for this

rapid bough
#

aren't vivian and lighter's wengines also insanely strong for their functionality

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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh

#

idk about hugo's

runic ether
#

they are yeah but viv and hugo both function very well without them

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arguably

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arguably

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hugo's best is technically 11s

rapid bough
rapid bough
#

since i have two to spare KEKW

runic ether
#

but hugo is coming out in a way where hes like

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super min-maxxy

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the bane of releasing with no disc drive

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i think the character that kinda has it worse for wengine in zzz is probably ceasar

rapid bough
#

yeah the fact that her best non-sig wengine is literally an off-role stunner wengine is diabolical

runic ether
#

but this should be something that gets fixed over time

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like we'll eventually get a-rank defenders with impact scaling and such or a 4 star free defender engine with impact and such

#

its been the natural cycle in other hoyo games

#

specifically genshin

slow raft
old galleon
#

timerra based

idle grove
#

yeah whatever is happening in feh now is beyond the scope of god

versed pawn
#

man if all the gachas did at least make the weapon guranteed

#

gfl2 has guranteed weapons too right

rapid bough
#

i don't think so, i think it's hoyo rates so 75/25

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however, gfl2 is both (1) more generous on pull currency than hoyo games, and (2) has a lower pity threshold than hoyo games

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and i guess more importantly, none of its signature weapons so far are massive power spikes

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should say, rereading the above, that the flipside is that character dupes are generally understood to be more important for character power in gfl2 compared to hoyo games

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i've never seen a ZZZ char for whom the consensus is "if you're gonna pull, pull until c1" or something similar

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but that sort of attitude is very common for gfl2 chars

mortal iron
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oh crossbone is in the sd game

summer hornet
#

They have virtually every single Gundam spinoff in the series list

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Even if some of them are awkwardly represented, like Thunderbolt with December Sky and Zeta with New Translation

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If the game survives long enough they will genuinely have everything

mortal iron
#

give me stargazer and strike noir and my in game currency is yours

summer hornet
#

I'm still waiting for all the Gundam Meisters lol

#

I know there's a UR Graham Aker pilot in the wings somewhere, and I want him

rapid bough
#

nikke 2.5 anni is gonna rerun a bunch of old pass costumes too apparently

#

notably, ALICE SKIN ALICE SKIN

wispy goblet
#

wtf it is DAY THREE of Co-op

rapid bough
#

also the dolla dress skin which i really want as well

wispy goblet
rapid bough
#

this anni gonna bankrupt me fr fr

old galleon
#

anyway my favorites of that bunch in the screen are noise and liter

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dolla's is good too

wispy goblet
#

shit dawg if the gacha skins don't get me
these will

rapid bough
#

mihara gacha skin + grave, alice, and dolla pass skins... lord have mercy that's $120

#

that's not a significant expense for my financial situation but it is probably more than i should spend on some gooner cosmetics

#

but sometimes i gotta treat myself

runic ether
#

id do it if its gameplay but thats just me

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like if i spend 120 for new characters

#

i wouldnt be super stoked but imo its fine. cosmetics just feels weird to spend that much on

wispy goblet
#

Cindy Pass
Alice Rerun
Liter Rerun
at least $60 for me

rapid bough
#

costumes all come at the end of passes which give a fair few resources and pulls too

#

so it's more like $120 for four skins and like 30 pulls + some upgrade materials that you get from the passes

runic ether
#

ah okay so its not just a skin

wispy goblet
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but the reruns will be

rapid bough
#

yeah, the reruns are just the skins for $20 (which is what the pass is originally worth)

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that's how they still get the FOMO crowd, since the passes when the skins are actually running are better value

old galleon
#

by far the most advanced scam i've ever encountered

rapid bough
#

yeah nikke skin pricing is fairly bullshit lol

#

but with how generous the gacha system is i can sorta forgive it

#

it's obviously how they make the bulk of their money

#

i'd rather have to shell out cash for cosmetics and worry significantly less about having the pulls to get characters i want

#

than be constantly penny pinching my pulls because the rates are so shit

#

looking at you hoyo

old galleon
#

and i'd rather they find a better way than 60 dollar costume gachas

rapid bough
#

well the gacha skins are in their own galaxy of bullshit this is true

#

though now that i've played a few gacha, i think AL just spoiled me. its cosmetics are by far the most fairly priced and that's definitely how the game makes nearly all of its money

#

gfl2 costumes are slightly cheaper than nikke $20 passes, but they don't give the pulls/resources which arguably make up the difference

#

the two paid ZZZ costumes we got so far are cheaper but again, just the skin, and not a huge price difference at the end of the day either

#

really brown dust 2 is the GOAT in this respect

#

their "costumes" are just alts you pull on gacha, so it's all "free" (assuming you have the pulls)

#

and the game is super generous on pulls so it's almost always possible to get the costumes you want

#

honestly no idea how BD2 makes enough money to stay afloat, its model is way too generous for its own good

old galleon
#

gonna shill another eden here, since its "costumes" are also playable alts you can pull, except you can also just....not pull them and sidegrade them with books instead

#

tradeoff is a much, muc hstingier gacha than any of the above games

runic ether
#

stingier than hoyo games?

#

thats kind of insane

#

actually nevermind is the fate gacha abyssmal on rates

old galleon
#

oh in terms of pure rates, ae is better

ae is stingy with currency and its "pity" is rng

#

like, 10% chance rng

runic ether
old galleon
#

it was only recently added too

#

used to be no form of pity at all

runic ether
rapid bough
#

that sounds like it'd make me want to strangle the life out of someone

#

50/50 hoyo pity is bad enough and it comes with a guarantee afterward

old galleon
#

the tradeoffs are as such

#
  1. you can pull 5* characters as 4*, and you can promote them using books you can farm
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  1. free characters are plentiful and are by and large pretty good
runic ether
#

kind of like fire emblem heroes

old galleon
#

not gonna dive into stellar awakening since that's a whole other can of worms

runic ether
#

though not all 5 stars were available as 4 stars

old galleon
#

and yeah, you can compare it to feh that way, tho i prefer ae for not being so pvp focused

#

it's a pure single player game (no friend system even, although they are doing an invite campaign for goodies right now)

#

(i will not be engaging in that since no one i know is interested in it, and that's okay)

rapid bough
#

i'm all gacha'd out right now, frankly 5 is probably more than i should be doing and i feel the burn any time they drop multiple major content patches simultaneously

#

come to this of it, oh shit next week is going to be ZZZ and nikke at the same time huh

old galleon
#

indeed

runic ether
#

im doing 3 and i feel like thats already a lot

old galleon
#

i haven't even touched azur lane since the start of this month

rapid bough
#

i'm still diligently farming away on azur lane but that's pretty low maintenance

#

just keep my commissions, skill training, research rolling and kick off 3x 12-4 auto sorties from time to time

#

though actually i guess that's more maintenance than any of my other games lmao

#

it's just spread out far more throughout the day

#

most of my other games are "log on once, do dailies, done" when there isn't major new content to tackle

runic ether
#

you know what

#

i do 3 gachas

#

but my so is the one who grinds hsr for me

#

i havent properly played hsr in a while

#

nvm

#

maybe another gacha would just kill me

rapid bough
#

not even sure what extra gacha i would start if i decided i hated myself enough to tackle another

#

i might give snowbreak another try but idk what it is, that game was just really boring to me

old galleon
#

last origin english whenever that releases

rapid bough
#

don't tempt me

runic ether
#

that arknight open world game interests me

rapid bough
#

OH that's it

#

azur promilia, when it's out

#

i'll be trying that

#

that'll be the first open world gacha i try

runic ether
#

im at a point with genshin where its not much open world for me since i have most everything explored nowdays

#

so i am getting a bit of an itch for open world again

#

but wuwa bored me and i like a lot of arknight designs ive seen

rapid bough
#

wuwa is a game i've gone back and forth on trying

runic ether
#

imo its just kinda whatever

#

maybe its the genshin experience, but it felt when i tried it, super messy

#

i could see the potential but it just ultimately never hooked me

#

and i felt like hoyo did such a great job with the explo in genshin

rapid bough
#

i've heard it called Gathering Wives recently and if the games i play are any indication, you might be able to guess i can get behind that theme

#

but idk open world in general just feels icky to me

glossy latch
#

I like WuWa well enough, only issue is that its like almost exclusively female 5* and most of them end up falling for the protagonist in the story

#

Less so in Rinascita at least

rapid bough
#

i was actually never gonna play ZZZ since i thought it was open world and then a buddy of mine was like "no you dumbass"

summer hornet
#

Ovven and Khaios are diametrically opposed lmao

rapid bough
#

the duality of man

glossy latch
#

That's why I get good discs >:)

rapid bough
#

this is why you get neko wengines

glossy latch
#

:[

old galleon
#

i've heard it called Gathering Wives recently and if the games i play are any indication, you might be able to guess i can get behind that theme

I like WuWa well enough, only issue is that its like almost exclusively female 5* and most of them end up falling for the protagonist in the story
civil war in gacha chat

rapid bough
#

i will obviously say that i need more than ML or something similar to keep with a game lol

#

case in point: snowbreak

#

the only game mentioned so far that is explicitly ML by design

#

and was just dreadfully boring

summer hornet
#

Touken Ranbu caught my eye due to the Ufotable anime years ago, but it was browser-based and just generally poorly handled

runic ether
#

my issue as well with wuwa. theres not enough sexy men. genuinely the worst part of natlan in genshin. they havent dropped capitano.

#

as an equal opportunity gooner, i am disappointed

summer hornet
#

Nikke is all girls, but it also has Mustang

glossy latch
#

WuWa did at least give us Brant

#

Granted, hes a theatre kid, so ymmv

rapid bough
#

mustang, andersen, LC, johan

old galleon
rapid bough
runic ether
#

when nikke drops a man shaking his ass while firing, thatll be when i install

summer hornet
#

IDK what to say, Mustang stole my heart with his first appearance lol

long tree
rapid bough
#

mustang is definitely goated

long tree
#

Poorly managed and web based is cygames written all over it

glossy latch
#

Anyway WuWa is better gameplaywise than Genshin imo

#

And flying actually is a lot of fun

#

But exploration is sometimes a little too ... convenient?

#

Theres not that much actual exploring to do

long tree
#

Wuwa is one of those games where I feel like I've missed the bus on by finding it uninteresting initially

#

I dropped it after the red haired woman came out

glossy latch
#

Changli probably

#

And eh, people joined after 2.0, its basically standalone

#

The 1.0 story is mostly pushed aside for now

#

Also next patch is the anniversary patch, so it has reruns of every character up until now

rapid bough
#

i hear wuwa also (much like nikke) had an anni livestream event planned but people are much more underwhelmed with it lol

glossy latch
#

Err correction

#

Almost every banner

#

The ones from the patch before the anni patch arent included

long tree
#

Did they make my boy good

glossy latch
#

Youll have to be more preicse

long tree
#

Calcharo

glossy latch
#

... do you value your hands?

long tree
glossy latch
#

He's viable, but he is execution-heavy

#

On a sidenote, I really like Zanis pull animation

long tree
#

Is it worth starting over if my only limited 5 stars was the green hair guy and the red haired woman

glossy latch
#

Wait, which red-haired woman

#

Puppet, or swords?

#

Also do you have Verina?

long tree
#

Puppets

#

Also yes

glossy latch
#

Oh youd be fine then

long tree
#

But I can just get her again with the starter select banner

glossy latch
#

Also that one is running out ... soonish?

#

So might wanna cash that in

#

But if you dont have Xiangli Yao from when he was free, Yinlin/Calcharo is a good team, even if not an easy one

#

Jiyan is a decent character in tower, but is arguably the best character in the newer AoE content

long tree
#

I don't think I have xiangli yao?

glossy latch
#

So youd basically have 2 teams from the getgo, and you can pull for Phoebe for example to run her with Spectro MC and your choice of Sanhua or Mortefi

#

Which is a very f2p-friendly team

#

Or if you get her early, you can try pulling her and Zani, that way you can also run Zani hypercarry with Phoebe as the support

#

So you have options

old galleon
#

got free draw spooked in bd2 by nebris

rapid bough
#

nice

versed pawn
old galleon
#

no idea if she's particularly good but her attack range is neat

versed pawn
#

suddenly expecting 100% rate ups for the rerun banners

old galleon
#

(and her design is aight)

long tree
glossy latch
#

I mean

#

Tbh Yinlin and Jiyan are some of the best characters you could've pulled at that time

versed pawn
#

tbh if u made a new account today grinded the next 4 weeks throught maps u probably have more then enough to pull both phoebe and zani on that banner

rapid bough
glossy latch
#

Likely would even if he only gets the 2.0 resources

versed pawn
#

the issue i have with the anni itself is that its kinda more catered to newer and returning players then existing ones

#

but at least they have a ton of QoL

glossy latch
#

The only reason to make a new account over one with Jiyan and Yinlin is if you could get exactly Shorekeeper, but you wouldnt have a ton of time for that

versed pawn
#

simply im a spender so 20 more pulls or less dont make no diffrence to me

glossy latch
#

And tbh Im not even sure its worth there

versed pawn
#

if i really want i swipe

rapid bough
#

i like keeping these nikke commemorative items over time, you can turn them into a free random gift but i find them far nicer as milestones in my inventory

#

(L->R is 2.5 anni cake, rapihood (new year's) event tape, 2nd anni cake, last summer event medal, 1.5 anni cake)

versed pawn
#

like biggest thing for me is instant boss respawns added next patch

#

4 cost are annoying to farm after u have the guranteed 15 drops per week

#

now u can chain

rapid bough
#

i'm pretty sure i would have more, i think from last year's bunny girl event and eva collab, but that was before i realized their sentimental value was better than turning them into a gift so i turned those into gifts lol

#

actually nm the eva collab didn't give one, pretty sure the bunny girl event did tho

old galleon
#

only ones i have are the cakes and the cassette

rapid bough
#

makes sense since you started during 2nd anni lol

old galleon
#

(not the 1.5 cake ofc)

rapid bough
#

well, right before

old galleon
#

ye

runic ether
#

didnt u fail to get that one fgo character u were pulling for

long tree
#

Low blow misty

runic ether
#

like obi wan

glossy latch
#

I mean that also just sounds like a hassle tbh

#

And it'd barely be worth it

long tree
#

Tbf I did get my priority pick in fgo but yeah 250 pulls for shrimp and nothing was bad

glossy latch
#

I mean it's your choice

rapid bough
#

got insanely lucky with this last day of co-op, got 3 parties that understood the assignment and failed the red circle

#

thank god

glossy latch
#

I wouldn't really go for it, but you could

#

You'd just need to get a DPS afterwards too

#

Ironically not Phoebe since she doesnt use Shorekeeper

#

So yeah up to you Jot, but I personally would stick with what youve got and just aim for Phoebe next patch to have a solid team

rapid bough
#

this gfl2 pathforger game mode might be the worst thing ever made

#

i hope they never run this shit again

summer hornet
#

Got a little scary for a bit, but always nice to know that I can punch harder than my power level

#

Or strategize better, play better, however you split it

slow raft
mortal iron
#

i dont like how hard the WFM stages are because every develop unit takes like 17 tokens to develop

#

and you can only use 3 slots for wfm team

mortal iron
#

alright fuck it all my exp chips to space oomfie, it's time to kill people

old galleon
#

varuo, my beloved

#

got him to show up in baruoki, clicking him guarantees elzion

rapid bough
#

finally invested into fully optimizing my SBS so that i can get to stage 7 kraken soon to speed up my blue rock farming

#

i guess she's fully optimized since i haven't farmed the exact OL row tiers to be perfect

#

but 4x ele damage, 4x ATK, 1x max ammo, 1x >4.9% charge speed (for an extra attack in full burst), 1x crit damage, 1x crit rate will do

#

only cost me like 150 blue rocks KEKW

#

but a worthwhile long term investment since she's my kraken clearer extraordinaire so optimizing her gives me access to more blue rocks daily from interception

wispy goblet
#

that's a lot of minerals

rapid bough
#

this piece is glorious tho

rapid bough
#

since you realistically need to lock good rows, especially if they're the third row

#

but locking a row increases the cost of future rerolls

wispy goblet
#

I don't think I have 150 minerals yet

#

is there anyone else who pairs well with Crown
for when the enemy doesn't have exposed cores so I don't need Naga

#

I guess everyone pairs well with Crown because lamo da king

#

but if there's no exposed cores
do I just go with a third B3 DPS?

rapid bough
#

blue rock income increases drastically when you can consistently get stage 3+ of kraken anomaly intercept

#

stage 6+ is also a big breakpoint that i'm at, but stage 7 is the last stage at which rewards increase so it's the optimal one to have as your floor

rapid bough
#

i always like privaty since crown + privaty + resilience cube = 100% reload

#

and privaty has good damage buffs too

#

there are other good options depending on team tho

wispy goblet
#

tbh I've kinda been holding back from unlocking 200
been kinda holding out to see if I can MLB QEQ before I lock in my top five
even though it doesn't really matter

rapid bough
#

speaking as someone who didn't pay attention at all to who their 5 MLBs were when breaking 200

#

i have occasional bouts of regret for not doing so

#

sometimes i'm on my nikke screen, or clearing out my synchro machine, and think to myself "why the hell are kilo, ludmilla, and poli in here"

#

and then i remember that those are just 3 spots permanently wasted because they were 3 of the nikkes i broke 200 with lol (the other two were liter and naga, who i'm of course happy with being slotted in)

#

that said, i really haven't had significant synchro slot issues so it's an ultimately minor concern

#

and i should note that i've never bought any synchro slots with gems, i only have the baseline 35 and then 7 extra from the rewards that give free slots, usually for annis

mortal iron
rapid bough
#

need to experiment a bit and see what can get the farthest

#

so far i've tried:

  1. crown / liter / SBS / t.helm / alice
  2. crown / RRH / SBS / t.helm / alice
  3. crown / liter / SBS / alice / naga
  4. pirate maids / liter / SBS/ alice

(1) and (2) were the best teams and basically equal, and about 1/4 of a health bar short of getting to stage 7

glossy latch
#

Two more days until Vivian

rapid bough
#

until my next lost pity, 160 pull agent

#

yeeeeeehaw

digital marlin
#

who is rerunning with Vivian

rapid bough
#

jane

digital marlin
#

dam

rapid bough
#

wym "dam"

#

do you not want the rat

digital marlin
#

i ran out going for Zhu Yuan

#

i aint ready to go back to pulling for more

runic ether
#

i have like 400 rolls to go for all 4 characters

#

im gonna win every 50/50

rapid bough
#

idk how many pulls i have but definitely not enough to feel comfortable with my odds getting all 3 (i don't need jane)

runic ether
#

the banners are dropping on my birthday. its the bday buff

#

i'll win

rapid bough
#

i'm also gonna need to resist the urge to pull for any sig wengines

runic ether
#

if i get earlies, im getting the wengines too

rapid bough
#

i absolutely hate that vivian is first half and lighter is second half

#

totally ruins my planning

runic ether
#

no actually tho idt i need any wengins here

#

vivi is going to be fine with the bp one i think

#

maybe i go for lighter's just cus it offers his best buffs

#

ultimately tho idt any of the characters here have very vital wengines

#

you can argue hugo

rapid bough
#

lighter's feels like the most necessary to me because it improves his buffing capabilities significantly

#

same sorta deal as trigger's

runic ether
#

but, that is mitigated a lot by better play + the right build

#

i say this now until we see the 2.0 disc drive being exactly for him and it benefits him most if u have sig

runic ether
#

that said

#

steam buns is goated as fuck too

#

optimal play on hugo will really like 11 or starlight engine atm too

#

god i thought i was done grinding those but here i go again...

#

i might go ahead and use all my pulls to guarantee get the 11 wengine from the shop

rapid bough
#

thank god i already have 2 of them so i don't need to worry about shit like that

runic ether
#

i only got 1 and relied on some of the other event wengines

#

but now that im settling into full end game optimizations and new characters, my 2nd one being only r2 is rough

#

harumasa has marc, 11 has starlight, ellen has starlight, billy has neko engine

rapid bough
#

there are many new lows a gacha game could make me reach, most are related to spending real money to get something

#

but a low i will never sink to because i'd sooner quit the game

#

is focus farming dupes of a gacha weapon

runic ether
#

maybe its being used to monster hunter but thats like

#

the exact kind of gameplay i like doing

#

grinding for the weapon

rapid bough
#

weapon dupes, especially in ZZZ, seem like they're such an utterly minor difference that they're basically an afterthought

#

i'd sooner pull for character dupes literally every time

runic ether
#

i love that optimization though

#

also tho the people who do scare me in hoyo games are those who max refresh with pull mats

#

thats one i never get. maybe its a type of no-lifing but like come on

#

is it that bad to wait to spend resin/battery/fuel?

#

i just realized u meant the actual gacha weapons to pull

#

not just general weapons

#

no yeah thats beyond stupid

idle grove
runic ether
#

i feel like its something that got grandfathered in too cus in hoyo games its genuinely so minor

#

like

#

may as well catch the suckers

idle grove
#

it's just an evolution of like craft essences in fgo or artifacts in epic 7

rapid bough
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i feel like the rationale for even allowing weapon dupes is to somewhat offset how shit it feels to get multiples of the same weapon, even when you weren't aiming to get multiples

idle grove
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unlike other games though you can get those in standard rolls not special banners

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weapon specific banners are like.. you can't make the weapon required because people will riot but they have to be good enough to be worth rolling for

rapid bough
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in brown dust 2 for instance there are no weapon dupes and it does feel kinda ass to pull multiples of the same one

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though in BD2 signature items can only be equipped by the character they're meant to be used by

runic ether
rapid bough
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unlike, say, ZZZ wengines where sigs can be used by any character, they're just obviously made to be best in one particular character's hands

runic ether
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you'll see a 20-25-30% increase

idle grove
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it just makes the rest of the game feel kind of homogenized because for every character you just have to use the free generic weapons instead

runic ether
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which is not pointless, but super useless since it'd be at best, there for screenshots

rapid bough
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i've lost count of the amount of ZZZ shiyu/DA highlights i've seen that are like "look at my no dupe 40k run" and it's

look inside
all characters have their sigs

runic ether
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and then you see some billibilli video of some corin main hitting 60k on garbage

idle grove
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weapon gacha is like that easy bait to get money

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people who are whales will pull them anyway

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people who are deep in the game know they're not worth

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so you get whales and those people who see a video on reddit and just pull

runic ether
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im at a point in genshin where im going for weapons because im not pulling characters basically at this point

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weapons and constellations

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my roster is huge

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i see no character i want coming up

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i have practically everyone

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so going for vertical is where my game is going now

rapid bough
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currently i want to pull lighter's wengine and eve's wengine because i want an optimal eve team since she's my favorite character and i use her at the slightest sign of fire weak content because i just want to use her

idle grove
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I mean thats fair but a rare case of a good reason to pull for them

rapid bough
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i thank the lord almighty that astra somehow missed the trend of hoyo juicing the fuck out of sig wengines for the last few patches

runic ether
idle grove
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valid for a fav character too

runic ether
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i think though as well that zzz wengines are pretty well designed compared to other hoyo games in that hsr feels too mandatory for most to have signature. and genshin where some sigs are borderline a total waste of pulls

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you can see notable increases, but they are not so absurd you will require them all the time for all content, and to make the character feel good to use

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(ellen kind of excluded but shes an m1 vs m0 issue)

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and nekomata but she feels bad at m0, m1, r1, r0

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you know what, thinking of nekomata, i would like to see them buff her backstab. give her a massive cdmg mult for hitting it

rapid bough
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idk i think sig wengines are doing an insidious thing lately too that isn't just having insane effects that make the character like 30% more effective

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and that is just being nutty stat sticks

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getting optimal stat spreads on characters like miyabi, harumasa, and eve is so much fucking easier when you have their sig

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and it's a complete disc optimization nightmare when you don't

runic ether
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yeah but i think thats fine in a way

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i'd rather that then locking a character's playability as a whole behind it

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but also, being totally worthless like some in genshin

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being stat sticks, fascilitating building the character, is fine imo

rapid bough
runic ether
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its a good middle ground

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because you can see the raw stats and go "nah i'd grind" and you'd be fine doing so

rapid bough
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sure but even from grinding you won't come close to the kind of stat spreads a sig wengine enables

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like miyabi's just giving a flat 50% crit damage, why

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that's better than a maxed out disc 4

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and it's just for free on top of the other nutty effects the wengine gives lol

runic ether
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yeah though the big part of it is that you dont need that flat 50% to clear still. if you fundamentally understand the kit and know how to max out the dps, you're going to go nearly as far

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this is something genshin benefits from too in that if you know what you are doing, you can go a lot more greedy on a build, and remove sigs and such because you know your damage windows and your interactions

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like is it nice for having that turn brain off moment sure. also helps if you just dont want to grind and feel like you need to use the character immediately without building/pre-grinding

rapid bough
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really it's mostly the crit-scaling agents that are the offenders here for me

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without sig, you get one disc 4 to either put into a big crit rate buff or a big crit damage buff

runic ether
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but if you are grinding for the character(s), and actively want to get good at the character, you can and the game will still reward it

rapid bough
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the sigs basically give you 3 disc 4s though, because all their sigs give basically a disc 4's equivalent of both crit damage and crit rate

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like sure it's not gonna gate content, but does gate an extra bit of optimization and make stat spreads significantly more awkward in a way that grinding really can't solve

runic ether
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that is true yeah but i feel like this is the part thats fine. since you dont need that 100:200 ratio to clear shiyu 7

rapid bough
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i'm a guy who does enjoy that bit of optimization and it grinds my gears that my character's stat screen is basically doomed to being suboptimal without the sig

runic ether
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or deadass

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though this part of me, as someone who does like optimizing, sees sigs as purely optional. its not part of the character's base kit, so i just dont see it as something i have access to unless i make a conscious choice to do so

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like with miyabi, i knew i was gonna get her m0w1 from the moment i saw her like 2 years ago lol

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but for most if not all characters, i just dont see the weapon as a part of them even if its theirs

rapid bough
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i find it hard not to because so many of them have certain thresholds on crit rate or AP or whatever as part of their kit nowadays, and hitting those thresholds is significantly harder without the sig. tbh, depending on the amount of characters you have, it can be borderline impossible without no-life grinding

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i still would probably be missing important AP thresholds on half my anomaly chars if i didn't spend money to get like 4 of the battle pass wengine

runic ether
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that one feels a bit more like the battle pass wengine is a bit overtuned

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but yeah i can def see that perspective too

old galleon
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(this is from the stream, just posted separately, finally)

rapid bough
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should be getting skill details for mermaid, mihara, and mori soon, probably starting tomorrow

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that's the content i'm really waiting for

old galleon
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indeedly

rapid bough
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only a day and a half left... so tempting...

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but very good chance dropping my ~200 pulls means i have to skip vivian and/or lighter, possibly both if i'm really unlucky

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think i've already decided to skip hugo unfortunately, unless i get ultra lucky on vivian/lighter

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since yi xuan is on the horizon and she's being built up to be miyabi-tier OP

summer hornet
runic ether
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but, zzz has managed to make me at the very least desire every single character even a bit

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so im expecting yi xuan to grab me by the throat

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that and also im expecting anniv will give us solid enough pulls to gamble

summer hornet
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Absolute drama queens, the whole lot of you. Also, I have newfound motivation to watch Zeta again lol

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I’m just gonna skip the story for ZZ though

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I wanna hurry up and reach the AUs already

mortal iron
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chat new G Gen Originals just dropped

Quoting SD Gundam G Generation ETERNAL【Official】 (@ggene_eternalEN)

◤━━━━━━
︀︀#GundamEternal
︀︀【Preview】Starting from 4/30 noon JST,
︀︀[Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Recollection] will be added to Main Stages!
︀︀━━━━━━━◢
︀︀
︀︀Linking the stories of [Mobile Suit Gundam SEED] and [Mobile Suit Gundam SEED DESTINY],
︀︀the new anime [Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Recollection] will be available in Main Stages starting 4/30 noon JST!
︀︀Keep an eye out for it!
︀︀
︀︀▼Download the game here!
︀︀ggetww.go.link/1tZuq
︀︀
︀︀*Check the in-game notice for details.
︀︀#GGeneration #GGen

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Dragoon striker pack strike gundam ooo

honest pawn
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got a dupe from tickets

mortal iron
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ive been using her to kill everyone

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space oomfie power

rapid bough
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plus she appears to be an aura farmer on top of likely being the next miyabi so i'm cooked

astral drift
summer hornet
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Goes surprisingly hard, even with my memory of Tezca's horrible holiday luck lol

slow raft
summer hornet
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I can hear a war cry on the horizon

summer hornet
old galleon
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bc twitter embeds suck and i'm too lazy to edit link, post says 2 advanced tickets in mailbox

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(also a picture of little mermaid)

old galleon
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lmao

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so there have been no fewer than 5 bug patches since the big update, two of which were to fix the same bug twice

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and now after the most recent one this morning, this happens

rapid bough
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gonna get some whiplash going from the nikke anni "literally 100+ free pulls" experience to ZZZ

old galleon
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ye

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also if reddit comments are to be believed (havne't seen the in game noti yet, logging in now)

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the road to villain thing is 3 copies of drake through a login event

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(which, conveniently for me, gives me mlb drake)

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but it seems after the two or so months of helm pushing at the start of the year, we're doing drake shilling now

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it'll be a while before i get all her mats tho

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The in game notification is now confirming several excellent bits of news:

Road to Villain event: Login event with opportunity to get 3 Drakes. If you have Drake already this is essentially a 2nd free MLB on top of Mori, and if not you can buy spare Drakes in the silver ticket shop.

Simulation/Overclock: increased rewards, which should pair well with the increased number of full burst events on the weekends.

Daily and weekly mission set: increased rewards

Challenge mode will let you get AT LEAST one more Anniversary Nikke Selection Box than the login event, so in addition to an MLB Mori waifu collectors should also be able to grab a Rei or Kilo if they missed them previously.

This seems in line with the "Future of Nikke" section in the livestream where the devs said they wanted to increase the amount of development currency going forward. All of the above appears to be part of the free segments of the events and things like the Simulation Room and Mission Rewards appear to be permanent.
this from le reddit

rapid bough
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the extra anni selection box from challenge mode is sick. means you can slowly MLB past anni units while still MLBing the current one

slow raft
runic ether
wispy goblet
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hmm I don't have Drake yet

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should I get a spare body from the mileage shop to guarantee MLB

rapid bough
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i mean i'd at least wait until you get the 3 copies from the login event lol

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from there just follow your heart

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only reason to MLB is for her stats and having her burst animation for your lobby

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or i guess if you want her to be one of your 200 nikkes but meh

old galleon
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yeah the road to villain thing guarantees you can get her favorite item; no need for mlb unless you really want her to be for 200 or wahtever

rapid bough
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remember to redeem the livestream cd keys if you haven't already, but also this confirms we reached the livestream viewership threshold so we're also getting 10x advanced vouchers after maintenance

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then another 70 advanced vouchers over the course of the anni event, spread across daily rewards, minigame rewards, event shop, etc

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  • the 14 free pulls on each of mermaid and mihara, good for 28 more pseudo-vouchers
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we eat good during annis

old galleon
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so what you're saying is, if i can't pull at least one of them without having to resort to mileage, i'm getting my just punishment for anni

rapid bough
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the gacha gods giveth, and the gacha gods taketh away

old galleon
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mfw needed 400 mileage to mlb rapi

rapid bough
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i did too lol

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i could just be far more flippant about that since i still had 120k gems banked after all was said and done

old galleon
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rn i'm at a little over 10k gems and somewhere between 10 and 20 tickets

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260 mileage

rapid bough
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true, idk how i read "21 days" and typed 14 pulls

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i think i might have read the "2.4" in that section header (in the graphic) and brainfarted lol

old galleon
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my cope is getting both with free pulls

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it won't happen

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but it'd be nice

rapid bough
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i have yet to get any anni nikke off the daily pulls

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0/3 on crown, cindy, and grave

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spent mileage on all 3

old galleon
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i don't think i did either

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closest i got was getting spooked by scarlet on cindy's banner

rapid bough
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i got spooked by crown on cindy's banner lol

old galleon
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i guess i can also cope for crown this time

rapid bough
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that isn't your average everyday cope

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that is... advanced cope

old galleon
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dude i'll take what i can get

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not having crown for the last half year has felt awful at times

rapid bough
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yeah she do be a crutch

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i'm thinking siren will be as well

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that's just the way of OP supports in gacha games

old galleon
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on the upside, even if the game says "fuck you do mileage" i can still guarantee her

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but there's also mihara to consider

rapid bough
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i bet mihara ends up the meta sustained damage DPS but idk about much more than that

old galleon
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kit remains to be seen

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but like

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look at her

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how can i not try

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on a serious note, i place a high value on overspecs

rapid bough
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<insert "that's true" gif here>

old galleon
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being possibly useful in 2 towers is nice compression

slow raft
rapid bough
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police doggo

old galleon
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tho in mihara's case, being another b3 in a sea of pilgrim b3s and rapi is a lot of competition

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doggo

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cherish her

rapid bough
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missilis tower really lacks a good second b3 after ein

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hopefully mihara can step into that role

old galleon
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i've been coping with qeq for a while

rapid bough
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QEQ is fine but she's definitely more of a bossing unit

old galleon
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doing the job but i'm slowly feeling the pain

slow raft
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not one of the dupes that gets me to over level 200 sadly

old galleon
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on the upside, at least it's not tetra

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good god, someone save tetra tower for me

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is this how veterans felt with elysion tower pre-rapi

rapid bough
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can confirm

old galleon
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bc it feels awful

rapid bough
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it's pretty funny how quickly elysion tower went from worst to best tower and now tetra is far and away the shittiest one

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as based as mustang is, apparently he only knows how to make support nikkes

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overspec anis gonna feed families Copium

old galleon
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gonna have to wait for overspec anis to redeem us

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uhh i'm not in game right now but lemme see if i can remember my tribe tower progress

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or if blabla has it

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i can say with certainty tetra is by far my lowest progress of the four tho

rapid bough
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nice social roll

old galleon
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WOOHOO DOUBLE ANIS LET'S FUCKING GO

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and nice tia dupe

rapid bough
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less nice social roll (we hate viper in this household)

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that's the first time i've done my 20 weekly social pulls (for the weekly mission) and gotten an SSR on each pull tho

old galleon
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love viper's design, love her character in a vacuum

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not a fan of it in practice

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a shame

rapid bough
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yeah same basically

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i do hope she gets a good redemption arc so i can start liking her tho

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i think that's my 2nd viper dupe though so at least it makes me eligible for her favorite item

old galleon
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i think i'm one dupe off for her

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but i finished up her item mats a little while ago

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switched to diesel for a bit before i got my first copy of drake, then switched to drake

slow raft
old galleon
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based

rapid bough
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best girl

slow raft
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liter naga alice maiden and helm is a decent synchro machine lineup

rapid bough
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maiden not so much but the other 4 are definitely nice

slow raft
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have you considered that i like her

rapid bough
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alice is steadily getting powercrept though, especially when you consider how annoying she is to gear and play optimally

old galleon
rapid bough
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if mihara is very strong, wouldn't be surprised if alice starts getting more and more awkward to use even in fire weak content

old galleon
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i also don't hate her, fwiw

rapid bough
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oh i like maiden lol

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i even have her swimsuit skin because of course i do

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just not an ideal "permanent synchro slot" candidate

old galleon
rapid bough
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yes it does

old galleon
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i use alice in a secondary team and my main one is rapi dps with whoever else

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been trying to build up asuka a little

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i also have rei but i also don't have infinite synchro slots

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i have 41 total after the two new freebies

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and i do use slots for more than just campaign and raids

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elegg's in there to make quick sim room a little quicker, and there are some pvp-specific ones

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just added trina in there earlier too

rapid bough
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elegg for sim room is an interesting tech

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haven't heard of that one

old galleon
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strictly speaking she's not necessary

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she just turns your burst on immediately in the boss fight

rapid bough
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yeah it makes sense

old galleon
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and i'm all for making it go a little faster

rapid bough
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my synchro device is entirely campaign, pvp, and tower-related at this point

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very few raid units involved since i only need 1 team for all but the challenge stage in solo raid

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and the challenge stage syncs you to 400 anyway so no need for device usage

summer hornet
old galleon
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i don't have any specific solo raid units in there right now, i don't think

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like at the very least, x guillotine isn't in there even though she'd be decent for water weak

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i also don't have mari in there, and idk if that's a mistake or not but i feel like i'd only use her in solo raid too

summer hornet
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I don’t remember if Texas Alter gets rerun here, but if she does that’ll be a worthy sink for my last few Arknights pulls

rapid bough
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i honestly can't remember the last time i used mari