...so this is Siege Alter, right?
#Gacha Chat
summer hornet
old galleon
vina is, yes
summer hornet
rigid pilot
https://vxtwitter.com/ClinickCase/status/1908536551417487777?t=3ooi5SdlCyHegQkFT...
Gramps doesn't mind the last one too much
rigid pilot
Remember, Beast VI/S is the only Beast-class servant that can be summoned as a beast due to her compatibility with humanity as a heroic spirit to fight for humanity
old galleon
just leaves levitator as the last remaining superboss for me to do before the update
i had totally forgotten this existed lol
anyway, lovely as was the key; she starts the battle with her basic attack changed to a skill that gives her cover and hold ground for effectively 3 turns
also every time she's hit she refills af gauge by 10%
after each hp bar, kaputnik does a ton of hits across the party, but with cover, all those hits go onto lovely
copper steppe
counter force i assure you summoning beast iv is essencial to the restoration of pan human history
old galleon
so it becomes an easy af loop you can sustain just long enough to end the fight
sesta is obv the other key to the fight since her expose (somehow) lets her ignore kaputnik's damage immunity gimmick
but sesta being braindead was well known since her ns release
old galleon
counter force i assure you summoning beast iv is essencial to the restoration of...
||cath palug will redeem us for our sins||
oh right it only nulls weapon attacks
it doesn't have elemental immunity
this game's damage mechanics are fun
now i need to figure out levitator
i tried it a while back but didn't have a good answer for the second half immunity switch
long tree
I have grinded everything I feel able to right now
I got three servants fully ascended and did their rank ups
All the free quests
No shrimp
summer hornet
Seriously sorry, mate
rapid bough
roll credits
versed pawn
copper steppe
same lol
copper steppe
no 
long tree
long tree
Me too friend, me too
astral drift
X
rapid bough
astra just vibing in the distance
wispy goblet
holy
Master Duel is less forgiving than Nikke
countless pulls and gems down the drain pulling for alt arts
took
checks notes
170+ pulls to get everything I wanted
at least now I have a ton of crafting materials
rapid bough
this weekend has been focused on catching up on gacha shit i fell behind on since i was on work travel for the past week
played through trigger's agent story now
it was good and hit hard at parts, again hoyo are no longer pulling their punches on darkening the tone
though i have to say, the writing was almost painfully unsubtle at points
i feel like that story would've been significantly better if they cut half the dialogue where the characters are just literally pouring their hearts out and explaining everything about what's going on and how they feel
runic ether
yeah i noticed that
but i feel like this is just an unfortunate like
plague across media
not just in hoyo studd
*stuff
rapid bough
yeah like
i'm not gonna sit here and give some elitist "media literacy is dead so companies are just abandoning subtlety" take
rapid bough
because for one, a lot of the time, on average, i am not playing through stuff (especially gacha games) with a super critical eye
my brain is half-turned off and only starts turning on for shit that really gets to me
runic ether
but yeah its absolutely kinda cooked and its showing across the board
honestly tho
this is probs a specific thing due to how players have reacted to the other hoyo games
rapid bough
because for one, a lot of the time, on average, i am not playing through stuff (...
and for two, i know hoyo is absolutely capable of being subtle with all the background worldbuilding they do, some of which i catch and some of which goes right over my head
but some of the dialogue felt uncharacteristically hamfisted in this story
runic ether
genshin players are notoriously unable to read
a group complains paimon reiterated things a lot
and yet ppl ask questions about something that is literally in the quest name
hsr had a really dense story set in their 2.x updates and while the landing wasnt perfect, you'd be surprised at how... even a character lying and being honest about their lie to the player, lead to so much confusion
rapid bough
i doubt i would be surprised lol, before gacha games i was big into shonen anime communities and frequented naruto, JJK, bleach, etc. subreddits and forums
runic ether
we saw the lie, we saw the effect, we were told of it, and some players still said "wait he lied?"
rapid bough
the JJK community called it the reading comprehension curse and yeah that sounds about right
runic ether
gojo will return any time now
rapid bough
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but some of the dialogue felt uncharacteristically hamfisted in this story
this has been a trend in recent ZZZ chapters in general and i think the removal of TV mode is contributing to it, but i also think but it felt like it was at its worst for this trigger story
runic ether
for sure
rapid bough
perhaps that's because this story was fairly self-contained and focused more on emotional aspects of how various characters felt about events current and past
runic ether
yeah it would be a bit more acceptable if it was part of the main story
rapid bough
other ZZZ events have leaned sort of equal parts on worldbuilding and character motivations
runic ether
cus u would not want ppl missing things
rapid bough
but this one felt more like
runic ether
even though this latest story, i already see and predict the "wait what?" questions from ppl who didnt pick up on subtlety
rapid bough
idk, the writers delivered an internal script detailing each character's past, feelings, and relations
and that somehow was just transferred raw into the story presentation
instead of, yknow
organically building things around that script
so there are moments of people not really talking like people and just grandstanding for literal minutes
which was a bit eye roll inducing
the story as a whole was good and i think it hit the beats it wanted to, but it felt like it was trying way too hard at points
runic ether
yeah literally the point where u would have wanted a bit more subtlety
rapid bough
i'm not even sure subtlety is the right word, though there are absolutely parts it would apply to
it's more like
runic ether
i think just being smarter about the writing includes subtlety
rapid bough
they used 1000 words to say what could've been said far more poignantly in like 250
runic ether
and thats honestly the big part cus if u rewrite it to be more subtle, you often inherently cut down on word count
rapid bough
yeah like the ||last exchange between trigger/zoe, and the last tape with trigger's squad, straight up dragged on at least twice as long as they really needed to imo||
runic ether
||the zoe bit was particular to me. i get the squad tape a bit, but zoe just was too long||
rapid bough
i do think part of the issue is just the corner that hoyo has backed themselves into with ZZZ's current story presentation
without TV mode they have to shove so much shit into dialogue during combat stages and the overworld
runic ether
genuinely we need tv mode back a bit
at the very least, they havent stopped cooking on the ost department. something some ppl were worried about moving away from tv but they did manage to work the buildups still
rapid bough
their current solution that slowplays dialogue during combat stages isn't working
i cut off so many goddamn lines just progressing through the stage faster than the dialogue can play
runic ether
yeah def! especially cus the dialogue doesnt play fast enough in english
rapid bough
at the very least, they havent stopped cooking on the ost department. something ...
true, the OST stuck out to me several times during this agent story
whatever the combat OST was for this chapter was a banger
astral drift
X
old galleon
X
lots of bubbles, counters, cindy, grave, and even matis
but a bunch of people zeroed in on yuni
lol
rapid bough
she do be out of place there lol
interesting that the 2.5 anni teasers are already starting when crust is next
rip, crust gonna be overshadowed immediately
patent swift
Y'know everytime I think about 3.1 I'm surprised at just how hard it hit
As a person who loves star rail's story (usually, we don't talk about 1.x xianzhou main story) even I really haven't had my emotions toyed with
Idk if I'm just super susceptible to it because of my own experiences but the entirety of tribios' story and the way trianne's death was handled got me to genuinely tear up a little
I hope they keep it up I like when they do that
It was nice seeing hsr stop pulling its punches
Idk man my words barely make sense half the time 
rapid bough
https://x.com/NIKKE_en/status/1909065114055234024
i just noticed that this art has mihara's pre-wordless design despite yuni having her post-wordless design
wonder if that's just a censorship thing since mihara's new design is uh... not promo-friendly, to say the least
choosing to read into things, the bubbles + cindy and matis being featured should mean the upcoming anni event will take place after the events of chapter 36, which probably means little mermaid is on the way
but anis/neon and yuni/mihara being part of the art is a bit of a wildcard
as of c36, anis/neon ||aren't with rapi, cindy, and matis on the surface--they're handling the "anis past" story in the ark to undoubtedly set up her overspec form||
and who the hell knows what yuni/mihara are up to, it's uncertain where the end of wordless fits into the timeline, but ||we last saw them up on the surface so maybe they'll be around for whatever happens with little mermaid||
alternatively, anis/neon may be part of the art just because they've gotta include the counters on all teaser arts for major events that take place in the current timeline
in that case, yuni/mihara remain the sole wildcards... incidentally this may mean overspec mihara?
assuming 2nd anni releasing 2 banner pilgrims simultaneously isn't a new trend, we could get little mermaid as the anni banner and overspec mihara as the anni welfare unit
welp, livestream isn't until the 19th so guess it'l lbe a hot minute til we find out any details
wispy goblet
it better not conflict with Wrestlemania or Stand and Deliver
(this is the least important thing to them)
slow raft
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slow raft
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i am worried that i get the login rewards in fgo for the 6th of april even tho its the 7th already
but i cant possibly have missed a day so???
copper steppe
goofy goober
slow raft
the best rolls ive ever gotten
rapid bough
new nikke event art, they really just flipped the art for the current event 
slow raft
arknights chapter 15 spoiler: ||
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idle grove
is that really a spoiler when you could use that for so many chapters or events
slow raft
this time for real tho
silver osprey
Yeah, there's... a lot to unpack in ch 15
rapid bough
oh boy
prolly gonna be leviathan/little mermaid lore
interesting that it'll be a side story instead of part of anni
mental acorn
arknights chapter 15 spoiler: ||<:deadinside:823133346573713442> ||
I am not looking forward to 6 months of trying to dodge spoilers
rapid bough
all but guarantees little mermaid for 2.5 anni tho
glossy latch
Well I got an on-set Dendro goblet
Only 1 roll went into CD, the other 3 went into EM, but its good enough?
glossy latch
For the time being at least
Ill probably toss some artifacts into the gilded strongbox to fish for a better one though
But top 14% is pretty good
Guess its back to farming for Navia again
old galleon
rapiganda about to pop off
old galleon
oh apparently old tales is being put in archives
it is april 8 utc+9, is the popularity poll live yet
old galleon
arknights chapter 15 spoiler: ||<:deadinside:823133346573713442> ||
is suffering on the menu again?
During the Promotion Tournament and Champions’ Duel, players can predict the winner through the Cheer system. Players will receive Credits based on the Cheer cost if their Cheer is successful.
oh
old gw flashbacks intensify
tldr gw used to have a system where players could basically place bets on which crews would win a given round, being rewarded with crystals
as you might guess with a system that rewards pull currency, it was quite lucrative
to the point that it got mercilessly exploited and crews colluded to maximize gains and shit
now so far, this system is only mentioning credits, not gems
but still
item 2 here also serves as an explainer generally
- The GW Betting Yakuza
Once upon a time, you could bet on GW results for Crystals. Crews would be assigned to North/South/East/West randomly each day, and you could bet on the order of which region would rank the highest. Unfortunately, Cygames also let each crew know what region they were assigned to.Naturally, some of the largest crews got together and colluded to rig the betting by tactically sandbagging their matches or turbo-grinding. The GW Betting Yakuza then proceeded to rig as many bets as they could.
One day, a large number of Chinese crews all happened to be placed in the same region. In retaliation, they turbo-grinded to punish the rigged bet that the Yakuza were attempting.
Cygames shortly removed betting from GW completely. Well, at least we don't have to stare at Bookmaker graphs anymore.
speaking of which, gw should be live now, but i ain't checking yet bc i got catchup to do elsewhere
but it is light favored so i hope y'all been doing your lumi grinds : ^)
old galleon
got a qeq dupe off a gold mold, so not a bad day so far in nikke
timber sigil
so Nemesis' weird pattern of speech is because her modules are fucked
rapid bough
oh apparently old tales is being put in archives
yeah looks like they're targeting the event before the next anni to put the previous anni into archives
last kingdom got archived right before old tales launched too
old galleon
considering skull has 0 gear and is only here to extend af and aside from necoco everyone else here is a freebie, that's not bad
old galleon
ofc aldo is the gold standard among freebie attackers
maybe a little unfair comparison since he's at 255 light but until wfs gets its head out of its ass and makes dungeons drop guaranteed light/shadow, the others aren't getting there
summer hornet
I'm not gonna go hard, but I'm at least gonna chip in a little this time
I'm so close to finishing the Eternals
One more copy of Fif's weapon, then all of Threo's
And I'll be done
Or at least, I'll be set
Still gotta do the grind to get them lol
long tree
long tree
@simple wind she good? I'm happy either way cause it's my second legend
simple wind
<@156893455010758659> she good? I'm happy either way cause it's my second legend
You probably won’t ever need another critter in your life
I have her as well and she’s been pretty handy
More fuckin reliable than Paladin cat at least
long tree
I had no clue crit was a thing
simple wind
I had no clue crit was a thing
Metal attribute enemies take 1 damage per hit unless it’s a Crit
long tree
Oh usually I just kinda throw shit at them I had no clue they had a special mechanic 
simple wind
Yeah
Metal doge and metal hippo you can pretty much brute force
But aside from them there’s like
One other metal enemy total you won’t need crits for
old galleon
I'm not gonna go hard, but I'm at least gonna chip in a little this time
i've been occupied with other stuff today so i haven't done anything yet
i plan to do at least a bit, though
idk how much it'll be in prelims, but i can finally get nwq and celestial cores from boxes, so i plan to take advantage of that
astral drift
X
old galleon
welp mihara's getting episode viewing confirmed
rapid bough
overspec mihara agenda has never been stronger
rapid bough
i said this earlier but my bet is that she's the welfare anni unit and little mermaid is the banner
assuming anyway that there is only one banner unit
which, after old tales, might be a bold assumption
old galleon
if she's welfare she'd better not be totally unusable : ^)
rapid bough
the only truly bad welfare unit thus far was rei on the 0.5 anni
smol white, kilo, and goddess rapunzel are all decent
summer hornet
If Phainon and UBW stay unannounced, I'm rolling for Cipher
I will not elaborate
also this dropped
runic ether
If Phainon and UBW stay unannounced, I'm rolling for Cipher
phainon is announced in all but uhh
well
name
his bis relic set comes in 3.3
files relating to him are in 3.3 beta
hes coming in 3.4
and its very likely so is fate ubw
runic ether
huge
@rapid bough they basically said they plan to address most of the story issues we discussed a while ago lol
it'd be super nice if they somewhat future-proof agents. since its clear most ppl are pulling characters not really for meta in this game and if that limits them for future designs and content, they should def look to making adjustments as needed consistently and the ability for agents to have field time in more ways is going to be nice
old galleon
remember kids, if you're voting for someone with multiple versions ,make sure you're voting for the one you most prefer
so if you like rapi and want to vote for her ssr version, vote rapi: red hood
if you like scarlet and want to vote for her bodysuit version, vote scarlet: black shadow
etc
oh and you get 5 votes ( i assume it resets every day?)
so if you want to split your 5 votes, you can, or you can put them all into your princess, your sweetie, your wife, your other wife, your other other wife, your girlfriend, or your psycho stalker
summer hornet
and its very likely so is fate ubw
WHYYYYYYYYY
summer hornet
remember kids, if you're voting for someone with multiple versions ,make sure yo...
Summer Anis does not seem to be counted as distinct from OG Anis, weirdly enough
patent swift
and its very likely so is fate ubw
FATE AND PHAINON IN THE SAME PATCH??????
Guess I'm skipping whoever 3.3 is
slow raft
X
rapid bough
Summer Anis does not seem to be counted as distinct from OG Anis, weirdly enough
seems none of the seasonal alts count as distinct characters. can't vote for rosanna, sakura, ludmilla, etc. alts either
rapid bough
if i wasn't focused on vote metagaming to make sure rrh wins, i'd probably go
- rapihood
- cindy
- helm
- scarlet
- SBS
slow raft
tempted to just dump 5 votes into grave 
rapid bough
follow your heart shikikan
slow raft
🫡
rapid bough
i knew you liked grave + drake but i didn't know you were a maiden/elegg/phantom enjoyer
very based good sir
old galleon
Your reward is a marriage certificate
rapid bough
🫡
it is kinda weird that the share image here frames this as "prediction of the top 5 nikke" rather than "my top 5" or even "my favorite nikke" (considering you can vote for the same one multiple times)
slow raft
6-10 place for me were
mana, cindy, red hood, rouge, helm
honest pawn
I have no idea how there's so many nikke players here but since my favorite character is shadow the hedgehog with tits I'll just mind my own business
rapid bough
no idea who my 6-10 would be, i'd have to do a big thinkus
rapid bough
I have no idea how there's so many nikke players here but since my favorite char...
it's basically my fault
slow raft
true
rapid bough
i think i was the only active nikke player here for a while (there were others that logged on sporadically for events/character releases they liked)
and basically wouldn't shut up about it
old galleon
I have no idea how there's so many nikke players here but since my favorite char...
No one will judge you for your favorite
rapid bough
and around 2nd anni a couple people decided to take the plunge since annis are always the best time to start a gacha
old galleon
Feel free to contribute
honest pawn
No one will judge you for your favorite
oh I don't play nikke, I was talking about limbus
old galleon
even so
old galleon
and around 2nd anni a couple people decided to take the plunge since annis are a...
speaking of gachas with anniversaries, another eden's japanese anniversary is on the horizon if anyone wanted to jump into that (global does get goodies for it)
honest pawn
introducing, my baby angel
slow raft
G.T.R.
old galleon
upside: no forced social component (no pvp, no friend system to micromanage, etc)
downside (if you're a gooner): while the game does have fanservice character designs, it's definitely not an emphasis
if anyone wants to learn or know more about it, feel free to ask
old galleon
introducing, my baby angel
based
slow raft
no, good taste roast
honest pawn
thank you
old galleon
i think i was the only active nikke player here for a while (there were others t...
this is probably accurate btw
given i'm still playing it almost 4 and a half months later, i'll probably be in it for the long term
well, 5 and a half months
rapid bough
oh I don't play nikke, I was talking about limbus
good to know, i stepped away and was wracking my brain thinking of who you meant by "shadow with tits" and the only one i could think of was crow
and while argor said no one would judge, i would in fact judge you if crow was your favorite
slow raft
rapid bough
given i'm still playing it almost 4 and a half months later, i'll probably be in...
based
this means thus far i have converted 3 potential long-term players to nikke (you, metaskipper, guy)
the gospel of coming for the plot and staying for the actual plot will spread far and wide
i also got reginald to play for a bit but he's not as insane as the rest of us and responsibly dropped it when he realized he didn't have time for another gacha lmao
slow raft
X
old galleon
blessed saber
copper steppe
X
copper steppe
ayy we are archer posting
rapid bough
no idea who my 6-10 would be, i'd have to do a big thinkus
big thinkus completed, i feel like it'd probably be some order of snow white, rosanna, marciana, ludmilla, and anis
but still a tough race, some honorable mentions would be flora, rupee, sakura, and soda
so many top tier girls to choose from smh
old galleon
rapi/cindy are my top 2, order is interchangeable
from there, the rest of my top 10 in some order is like
naga/noir/blanc/anis/bready/ludmilla/helm/ade
something like that; rosanna, marciana, and tia are some of my honorable mentions
also, both rapi and anis getting in these lists but rip neon
rapid bough
anis's turn will be her 3rd anni overspec version :^)
and neon for 4th
or like 10th at the rate they're building her story
old galleon
might be a little too deep for my taste, we'll see
slow raft
New limbus ego
rapid bough
might be a little too deep for my taste, we'll see
D.E.E.P? :^)
slow raft
Used up my luck for the next weeks
rapid bough
rare social pull W
though tbh i'd argue every social pull is a W because they're entirely free and still have a higher SSR rate than a lot of gacha lol
rapid bough
you are now a pvp god
rapid bough
not really, i have her at 4/4/4 which is what i leave most of my "decent but not meta" nikkes at
she's most useful for her insane burst gen
slow raft
rapid bough
she has the best burst generation in the game outside of treasure helm i think
slow raft
And thats important bevause pvp is a battle of who gets their burst first, right?
rapid bough
and i think trina recently may have surpassed her slightly? i don't remember
rapid bough
And thats important bevause pvp is a battle of who gets their burst first, right...
yeah basically
slow raft
Cant you just use elegg and get your burst instantly then 🤔
rapid bough
nope, those skills that give instaburst don't work in PvP
slow raft
rapid bough
jackal is good for reasons other than her burst gen tho, most notably with scarlet
one of her skills causes her to split damage between her and 2 other nikkes on your squad
and the split damage counts as hitting scarlet which triggers her counterattack skill
old galleon
i need to find a way to get trina into my synchro device
rapid bough
but even without scarlet she's very good
old galleon
so i can run scarlet/jackal/trina pvp comp lol
rapid bough
i still do not have trina
old galleon
i got her in ordinary recruit a couple days ago
rapid bough
i have like 50 recruit tickets i'm just sitting on
i wanna see how good crust ends up being
since she'll prolly enter standard recruit for the 2.5 anni event
old galleon
crust will probably be a bready enabler, i'd imagine
old galleon
and as much as i like bready, she wont come home
so here i am
saving what scraps i have left for half anni and hoping we don't get hit with 2 gacha nikkes
or hoping that if we do, we get a good amount of rolls
rapid bough
at the very least we'll get a free roll per day so
ofc that doesn't build mileage, but you may just luck sack into the unit(s) for free which is always a welcome possibility
but i'd wager we'll get like 50 advanced recruit vouchers over the course of anni
plus gems and daily pulls
old galleon
great
glossy latch
Just checked the 2.0 confirmed factions
old galleon
now i get to cope for cindy treatment instead of rapi treatment
rapid bough
i am (read: my wallet is) terrified of the gacha skin(s) they'll release
because i am a hopeless sheep who won't let my money reject their scam
glossy latch
I guess Billy could still have a SK S rank but still
runic ether
5 star billy not cope
glossy latch
It'd be an easy way to get a bunch of A ranks at once too
Oh wait
Billy would be the sixth ranger
Duh
Yeah I'm sure he'll get it
old galleon
because i am a hopeless sheep who won't let my money reject their scam
at least you're honest
that is so ridiculously close
rapid bough
old galleon
(so about what i expected)
glossy latch
Anyway most of the announced 2.0 characters are whatever to me tbh
Maybe the robot idol
runic ether
the idols feel like the skip banners to me
im looking forward to more obol squad though
rapid bough
yeah big skip for the idols on my end unless they're broken OP
old galleon
oh uhhhh there is a very noteable omission from the npc voting pool
rapid bough
finally an opportunity to save some pulls without feeling like shit
old galleon
||it's k||
incidentally, little mermaid is also missing, although that one is much easier to deduce: she's heavily featured in the half anni event and will almost certainly be pullable
anyway, little mermaid was gonna be my vote for that, but since she's not available, i'm voting for cecil
glossy latch
Idk, I'm not huge on Obol Squad
slow raft
Can you link the npc poll?
old galleon
it's at the same link as the regular one
old galleon
https://nikke-en.com/events/nikkevote2025/
temporarily pinned it, will remove once the poll ends
anyway, from the home page, you'll want the special voting button, and that'll take you to the npc poll
glossy latch
Like Obol Squads aesthetic is very military chic
And I'm not sure that's gonna be interesting
rapid bough
behemoth gang
old galleon
also if you didn't do it already, the nikke poll refreshed with the date change in korea, so you can add more votes there too
rapid bough
hope we get her playable sometime
timber sigil
she got them torpedo tiddies damn
old galleon
based
rapid bough
but behemoth gets the tiebreaker because her voiceover is SO good
honestly one of the best in the entire game tbh
her VA nailed it
honest pawn
oh right
rapid bough
she got them torpedo tiddies damn
you've seen nothing
honest pawn
arknights x limbus should be happening soon
rapid bough
this is nikke's real torpedo titty character
old galleon
papillon, my beloved?
runic ether
god i love back problems
old galleon
^
rapid bough
it's fine they're all cyborgs
no back problems to speak of
honkers with no drawbacks
old galleon
they can still feel pain
slow raft
Ill do the npc poll once i get back home
runic ether
that just kind of makes it a shame. they could do much cooler cyborg designs but instead its massive tits /hj
slow raft
Ill also have a look at the new zzz chars then
old galleon
tbf there is some variance, not every nikke is a titty monster
just a majority of them
slow raft
arknights x limbus should be happening soon
Peak inbound
slow raft
Im ready for kaltsit faust and ryoshu chen and hong lu mister lee
timber sigil
who's Nikke's one
old galleon
i haven't seen a boobs tier list for nikke
some ones i immediately recognize as noteably big are noir and bready
maybe elegg?
@rapid bough with this treasure i summon your degeneracy
slow raft
Isnt emma like comically huge?
Or is it just that her sprite looks so bizzare what im thinking of
old galleon
uhh lemme check
well tbf her sprite does look bizarre
but i'd also say hers are pretty big, ye
maybe anis is also in this conversation? her summer alt makes it a bit more clear
slow raft
Im ready for kaltsit faust and ryoshu chen and hong lu mister lee
Also of course ishnael skadi, meursault chongyue, grergor walter and rodion swire
You can probably do don/ntrk or any of the pinus sylvestris
rapid bough
<@219319817688186891> with this treasure i summon your degeneracy
probably guilty, noir, or soda
emma is a contender too it's hard to say how much of that is her awkward sprite, they don't look as ridiculous in her overspec art
rapid bough
i haven't seen a boobs tier list for nikke
not me thinking about making one, I REJECT MY HUMANITY JOJOOOOO
old galleon
would be totally up your alley
slow raft
Qeq always looks painful
long tree
Legit on first glance I couldn't tell red shoes had big boobs because I wasn't looking down enough
slow raft
Because of her beatiful eyes, i get it
long tree
Idk if I could even post red shoes portrait on here
old galleon
wouldn't say it's not even close, but red shoes is in the conversation, sure
of course, we hate red shoes, so it won't amount to much
slow raft
Rule of thimb is that nikke designs are probably better of atleast spoilered
long tree
I was gonna ping Yuri and show him a new ||evil insane woman||
slow raft
Too late
long tree
Oh has someone already done so
slow raft
No, he got himself banned again 
late canopy
Damn
I was just about to ping him with something he'd like too
It also has to do with tall women
slow raft
I wasnt awake at the time but he pulled some asshole stunt in stream chat i think
summer hornet
Gott im himmel, Yuri
late canopy
Sad times
runic ether
outright scammed someone by cancelling their order during the ban
slow raft
We were already way to lenient since we had him on a "one misstep and youre out" policy and he did quite a few misteps fwiw
runic ether
volt edit is so good too
runic ether
We were already way to lenient since we had him on a "one misstep and youre out"...
yeah that def didnt help
but we also had just banned someone else for pulling this same stunt and he comes in to brag about doing the same thing
late canopy
What a shame, so disappointing
astral drift
i need a brown dust 2 tier list as well
old galleon
off the top of my head, loen and eclipse come to mind
late canopy
Was really glad to have him back but can't complain about him having getting booted again if this is what he did
slow raft
Realistically it was bound to happen, seeing as he had no regard for the rules and actively ignored them and complained when reminded of them
rapid bough
i need a brown dust 2 tier list as well
eclipse has some absolute dobonhonkeroos
she's surely the top
summer hornet
Was really glad to have him back but can't complain about him having getting boo...
Same
astral drift
eclipse has some absolute dobonhonkeroos
incredible
summer hornet
i haven't seen a boobs tier list for nikke
My moral lawyer has advised me to stay silent regarding this topic
runic ether
eclipse has some absolute dobonhonkeroos
the one thing i am always surprised at is how reserved hoyo is about a good rack
zzz has def pushed the envelope
but mostly in the behind department
late canopy
Restraint is good
slow raft
Yeah with how horny they already are, youd think itd only be a matter of time
rapid bough
to be fair, with ZZZ's jiggle physics advancements, you can only go so big before it produces comical results
long tree
Triggers physics are errr
runic ether
based yeah
long tree
Actual "colonel I'm trying to sneak around but the clap of my ass keeps alerting the guards" tier
rapid bough
trigger's assets nearly got me pulling for her
(also her character, she's some strange combination of badass and wholesome i wasn't prepared for)
come to think of it, so is eve
apparently i have a type
runic ether
trigger is not mommy. she is mom. there is a difference.
long tree
You can see the LEDs change when she goes mother mode
rapid bough
also she is surprisingly fun for an off-field character
sorta like astra
just promotes interesting gameplay patterns
rapid bough
- the visual feedback for triggering her off field aftershocks is very satisfying
hoyo cooked on that
runic ether
i can only really think of nekomata as the only "boring kit" in zzz so far and thats mostly cus she is kind of basic. everyone else has a gimmick they feed into well imo
digital marlin
No, he got himself banned again <:cheems:683182129668292685>
GODDAMMIT
slow raft
I personalyl think there are some boring kits even with the gimmicks
runic ether
optimal anton is a lot of fun just cus of the massive numbers
slow raft
Like billy and corrin
runic ether
he really plays how he looks
rapid bough
nah billy is peak
slow raft
I mean obcs its a taste thing so agree to disagree
digital marlin
Think it's just th launch character issue where since it's a new game they can't do anything to crazy
runic ether
I mean obcs its a taste thing so agree to disagree
i get u
also tho corin's one they showed off as a possible buff with the new moves given to her
their balance philosophy is going to be interesting when buffing characters or changing them as they said
digital marlin
Was going to mention corrin cause I played her the other day and my God did it feel like a drag
rapid bough
corin's base gameplay is lame but her lost void powerups are genuinely so fucking funny
runic ether
she can be if you dont love the slow pizza cutter
i saw a corin main do like 60k to pompey in da
but yeah it seems they will add her lost void powerups to her base kit in some capacity
which honestly
its a fantastic fucking idea
test things out in lost void
if a character is otherwise weak, add some of the lost void powerups to them
it gives active real-time feedback to things like that
ppl who main billy for instance dont really fw the lost void stuff for him
slow raft
The lost void stuff was p fun yeah
runic ether
but corin mains were all over it
same with ellen
so, why not add them to the base kits? its already something players want
u tweak the numbers a bit
rapid bough
ellen's lost void kit genuinely makes her so much nicer to play it's actually wild
runic ether
and this way, u dont have to have players worry too much if ever about pulling meta if your fave can always take a buff
rapid bough
ellen has a bit of an m1 problem though
the difference in ellen's playability from m0 to m1 is massive
might be the biggest QoL dupe in the entire game tbh
rapid bough
(well it's a buff too, but also QoL)
runic ether
my ellen is honestly really well built
75:133 effective 233
and she is way more whelming than all my other dps characters
glossy latch
I mean honestly Id say ZZZ kits arent the most interesting, barring a few exceptions
runic ether
she can still clear content
but its not that fun to clear it with cus she is a notable step back
glossy latch
Which hey, I guess it works, but it is true that most ZZZ characters are kinda eh
runic ether
they dont have the most complexity but they are fun
which is ultimately what matters
its just the tradeoff of accessibility
they could make every character have a harumasa level skill floor -> ceiling but im sure ppl would just not be able to either play this game on mobile or stick to it
slow raft
X
wispy goblet
sadge didn't realize pressing share didn't force you to post to socials
missed out on one voucher
wispy goblet
I think yesterday I might have voted for Helm
I don't remember
I didn't save the image
but the other four are the same
rapid bough
deep cut, i like it
slow raft
Npc vote is way too hard holy
Mustang, liliweiss, red shoes, andersen, oswald, D.E.E.P, rian, jien
Any one of them could get my vote
old galleon
purple scam mold gave me trina dupe
feels like my purple mold luck has been better than my gold mold luck lately
mustang, liliweiss
what a cultured list
red shoes
yeah we're gonna need the firing squad for this one : ^)
versed pawn
im so rdy for tommorow
old galleon
(for legal reasons that is a joke)
wait apparently some people thought cindy was gonna win in a landslide?
wat
same levels of cope as the ones who thought rapi was gonna win in a landslide
this was always gonna be a fight
top 10 is intersting
so after scarlet, 6th is.....sbs
once again, scarlet fans like to shoot themselves in the foot
if even half of sbs' votes went to scarlet, scarlet would be comfortably in 3rd
in 7th is popular girlfriend and probable eventual wife, helm
in 8th is alice, and that's all that got > 10k votes day 1
9th is anis, 10th is blanc
11th, not even 100 votes behind blanc, is bready
some fairly popular nikkes bready beat with just a few weeks of existence are: grave, noir, privaty, and elegg
we'll see how the final results shape up later but bready has some solid representation so far
long tree
Bready was already going to lose for being more niche in appeal than others but I appreciate there are others out there that like her
old galleon
being in 11th day 1 is a huge win for her
liek there's probably somewhere around 100 candidates total
yeah, i count 120
11th/120 is top 10%
oh also og rapi has around 2900 votes
so while most people got the message, some obviously didn't : ^)
old galleon
my understanding is that that's how it usually works
slow raft
old galleon
i ask of you, am i your king?
honest pawn
what is it?
slow raft
20 np gen rate before damage and 1 tick np reduce on hit
along with the usual damage increase
old galleon
20 np gen rate before damage
this does not ramp up, so that could cause issues if 20% extra ends up not being enough
rapid bough
not me thinking about making one, I REJECT MY HUMANITY JOJOOOOO
for science
old galleon
clearly rei goes in tonhongerekoogers
rapid bough
old galleon
mang you took that bait too easily
runic ether
slow raft
Let silver and steel be the essence.
Let stone and the archduke of contracts be the foundation
Let originium be the colour I pay tribute to
Let rise a wall against the wind that shall fall
Let the four cardinal gates close.
Let the three-forked road from the crown reaching unto the Kingdom rotate.
I hereby declare.
Your body shall serve under me.
My fate shall be your sword.
Submit to the beckoning of the Holy Grail
If you will submit to this will and this reason…Then answer!
An oath shall be sworn here!
I shall attain all virtues of all of Heaven.
I shall have dominion over all evils of all of Hell!
From the Seventh Heaven, attended to by three greet words of power,
Come forth from the ring of restraints,
Guard of the scales!
old galleon
congrats
slow raft
thanks, twas all luck
old galleon
picks the tsundere
is a rin fan
yeah that tracks
rapid bough
for science
it is done (not really, this is pure vibes and probably objectively wrong on some counts, especially in the middle)
but tbh this is a better spread than i thought the game would end up with
of course, this is rating all nikkes relative to one another, where "small" for average nikkes would legitimately be like above average for humans lol
blanc's a pretty good example of that, i see comments on the subreddit all the time saying she's small and all i can think is that anime has totally skewed a huge amount of people's perception of chest size
also doing it this way does make it pretty obvious when an alt gets a major buff lol
like rosanna and privaty
old galleon
speaking of privaty, is she just permanently a maid now
old galleon
triangle's gonna go down one elysion nikke lol
rapid bough
more overtime for yulha
i wonder what manner of chaos we'll see if cindy ends up winning the popularity poll, but adding together rapihood+rapi votes would put rapi on top
that's the kind of margin the poll is at right now lol
and it's not even that base rapi is getting a lot of votes, she has like 2000 to rapihood's 50k or whatever
but when the gap between cindy and rapihood is only a few hundred, that matters
old galleon
yup
runic ether
the honkai will be railing me across the stars with the banners. anaxa for the herta, cipher for acheron, phainon and then the fate collab
glossy latch
Im debating who I even go for
I was gonna go for Castorice, but she isnt good with any of the supports I have
runic ether
she isnt really good either unfort
she demands a lot
rmc/sunday both of which have other great teams and options
tribbie (who is just busted in general)
gallagher (insert copypasta)
patent swift
I ended up getting mydei at like 30 pity so castorice is actually perfect for me
glossy latch
I mean she works with Ratio but Ratio also has Moze
runic ether
she has 30% res shred for existing
*def
she is a pela replacement for acheron and ratio
patent swift
but are you an e0s1 gamer or
Not unless I get lucky or cas' lc ends up being available via the guarentee
slow raft
im thinking bout anaxa and maybe ciopher but otherwise its waiting for fate time
patent swift
I like castorice too much to skip her </3
glossy latch
I mean
I wouldnt run Pela on ratio either
Its like, Ratio, Moze/Topaz, Support (usually Robin), tank
runic ether
pela usually sees good results in ratio for the same reason as acheron
ratio/cipher/moze or topaz/sustain
bis is gallagher
runic ether
Not unless I get lucky or cas' lc ends up being available via the guarentee
that castor damage is gonna be a bit sussy
that said i dont expect cipher to survive
glossy latch
Ill have to see
runic ether
she has really strong personal damage
summer hornet
and it's not even that base rapi is getting a lot of votes, she has like 2000 to...
wait can we see the results?
runic ether
and her debuff uptime is good
glossy latch
Maybe Aventurine if he gets another rerun
glossy latch
Id say Anaxa but I already have Jade
And I dont think Anaxa is that much better as to be worth it
runic ether
he is
in single targer
*target
hes a jade sidegrade elsewhere bordering on worse
also if you need a wind dps hes goated there
cus he is really good
glossy latch
I have Black Swan
Tbh the two biggest upgrades to my account are probably Aventurine and Robin
runic ether
yeah and i have jingliu pre buffs. they both do about as well rn.
glossy latch
But I dont like Robins ult and Aventurine just had a rerun
summer hornet
I have Black Swan
I... Don't think she's that great as a solo wind DPS, no?
runic ether
dot is just dead in a ditch rn
kafka buff in 3.4 will save dot
we cross cipher's name out of the growing list
summer hornet
If Cipher wasn't unfortunate enough to be pre-Phainon+UBW I'd roll
But she is, so I've gotta compromise
glossy latch
I... Don't think she's that great as a solo wind DPS, no?
Who said anything about solo >:)
patent swift
Realistically I'm gonna run mydei cas
runic ether
mydei cas tribbie should be solid
patent swift
Skipped tribbie sadly
runic ether
rip account
patent swift
I have robin its fine
runic ether
(note: it is not)
robin genuinely does super little for cas and mydei
they are both hp scalers
patent swift
I know let me cope
runic ether
you've probably missed out on 80 pulls if you've been skipping end game since launch
probs more
but ig its whatever
patent swift
I've been playing since 2.3
runic ether
roughly 40
patent swift
And tbh I can handle the missed pulls bc I would rather spend that time doing literally anything that isn't farming relics
patent swift
https://x.com/gmnskdy/status/1909497041279123824?t=rFOf9mIXgXVJdB_DVl3uXw&s=19
What a happy couple
I'm sure one won't go insane and cause a divorce
patent swift
Its still insane to me they cut playable cocolia
A dead character clearly won't stop them ||(trianne, gallagher)|| so like
slow raft
Gilf aquired
runic ether
league
dull bridge
no i need league for tft
runic ether
thats enough then
runic ether
cus the solution is that you would, upgrade your system to be able to install more games
but do you have new system/computer money?
dull bridge
nah uninstalling the PBE and uninstalling rivals
i have a tb of data
idfk whats taking it up ngl
dull bridge
idk what it is tho
just a lot of apps
cause the largest apps are like 24 gb
like imma basically install hsr just to play for a bit then uninstall but meh
nvm
we are phone gamers
misty u play wuwa?
im liking it a lot ngl
it feels like genshin when genshin was good for me
runic ether
no it didnt really stick for me after a while
too many errors at first and i didnt vibe w the gameplay as much
dull bridge
yeah that makes sense
it feels also a lot more swapping and like rotations and combos then genshin
at least from my experience of earlier genshin
astral drift
lust
rigid pilot
Lust
long tree
Demon lord maou: game recognises game
Locusta: regular down bad
Nero: this is dream come true territory
rapid bough
aight time for the solo raid challenge stage
can't wait to crash out on this one because its mechanics are hella unforgiving
first, drake favorite item time
wanna get my shotgun team at least partially up and running
versed pawn
I mean he could also just get a new disc if his set up allows
Did that on my pc when it got to full
rapid bough
we're reaching levels of dork that shouldn't even be possible
damn i'm a few dispatch days short of having enough to get her item to level 3
not bad for a grossly suboptimal shotgun team (it really needs bunny alice tbh)
i have no OLs either, this is purely skill levels + dolls + cubes (all have level 12 resilience)
helm supremacy
in hindsight, prolly could run s.anis instead of modernia just to buff cindy and that would likely put her above helm
rapid bough
well, i tried
summer hornet
Demon lord maou: game recognises game
Locusta: regular down bad
Nero: this is dr...
Amakusa Shirou: why am I the sane one here
mental acorn
the one employed friend
rigid pilot
Okay I got Castorice and I had mostly pre-farmed her. Honestly, she is quite fun but I can't help but notice that neither her nor Mydei care about skill points which makes them feel so much more overpowered than other characters
patent swift
Tbf cas' downside is that you need strong sustain or else she kills your team
rigid pilot
Eh I'm getting by with just Huohuo who is unfinished. Her dragon drops a heal nuke on death too lol
I did manage to get Gallagher though and my sis told me to build him for her so that's what I'll do
summer hornet
rigid pilot
@runic ether what are you feeding your Acheron that she hits harder than the trial Acherons 😭
rigid pilot
I see
summer hornet
Also e2 s1 lol
runic ether
i'll have u know my acheron was hitting like a nuke even before e2s1 lol
runic ether
it was all my fox wife
summer hornet
Oh when you said fox wife you meant Jiaoqiu lol
If i rolled for JQ now I’d give up the Anaxa guarantee, which would set me behind on Phainon and UBW
And I don’t have Acheron either lol
rigid pilot
I kind of wanted Fugue but unfortunately, I got a Himeko copy before Castorice so I'm out of pulls
If I want Hyacine and the Fate stuff this is where I stop.
summer hornet
oh they give you an entire full screen cutscene for Castorice on opening the app lmao
that's crazy shilling
runic ether
they did this for zzz with miyabi
runic ether
also unfort they did make the bp kinda worth it if you are going to get successive bps
cus every 4 bps is a 5 star lc
for a limited character
wispy goblet
doing my final preparations before solo mode challenge
runic ether
well i got castorice early myself
shes gonna sit on my account unleveled though lol
idt i'll have time to grab her mats for a while
runic ether
i was always gonna aim for at least e0
cus fu xuan cons are nice
plus i have the pulls spare for anaxa
also im built luckier
rigid pilot
Wait what the fuck. It takes me like 170 pulls for her and you get her early??
summer hornet
runic ether
okay i did a single 10 on each im not going deeper and i got neither so consider yourselves lucky im not flexing
hmm but what if...
runic ether
be glad
read em and weep
ha
lol
it was 20 pulls for fugue
and 20 pulls for jq lc
summer hornet
runic ether
runic ether
note: i can
and i will
there will come a day where i fly too close to the sun
but i can still swim
rigid pilot
Calm down there Icarus
runic ether
yeah but can u imagine
nah but fr if i want anaxa, cipher, and anything after i do gotta chill
plus e3 acheron is just not as useful if i dont just head into e4
and e4 may as well be e6
so some other rerun
ah but aventurine's theme came on in the playlist
i feel like im tempting myself
rigid pilot
Did it "come on" or did you skip to it though
runic ether
im cutting my losses here fr tho
120 pulls and i got e1 fugue, castorice, and jiaoqiu lc
any further and i may fuck my luck in the future
summer hornet
I now have my own Ruan Mei
all I need is Lingsha and Team Hellfire is complete forever
runic ether
im banking my free 5 star
i have e1 rm
no need for luocha
since i am an e1s1 lingsha haver for dpsha and healsha
wispy goblet
just realized I didn't put RRH in any of my solo mode teams
oops
runic ether
my guess will probably be archer actually
wispy goblet
still did pretty well
probably won't run it again
runic ether
but maybe hes given for free just in general
i can also see if the trend of rm and luocha continues
sunday and rappa
just a hunch
wispy goblet
not bad for no RRH
rapid bough
why didn't you use rrh lol
wispy goblet
I forgor
rapid bough
💀
wispy goblet
I don't wanna do it again
rapid bough
understandable
wispy goblet
she probably doesn't break me into a higher bracket anyway
slow raft
man, i want to give in to my collector urges, but the def ignore on ruan meis 1st eidolon sounds p useful
mortal iron
did she get the burger king sprite
old galleon
if rrh loses it bc enough people split with her sr version, there will probably be riots
(also a predicted possible outcome)
also it's entirely possible some grave votes are pushing cindy bc it'd be in grave's character : ^)
summer hornet
https://x.com/droachillustra1/status/1909896966366204071
The car in front has the right color scheme to be either Salter or Berserker Lancelot
mental acorn
I am not looking forward to 6 months of trying to dodge spoilers
well I survived two whole days and then got blasted by a meme
old galleon
cool, my sbs comp didn't even survive half the fight
this challenge stage is off to a fine start
2 fights in and i'm not even at 300m total, and i've used 2 of my 3 best possible comps
i am royally fucked
long tree
By ClinikCase
rapid bough
cool, my sbs comp didn't even survive half the fight
that's whack, it should have some of the best healing possible if you're using pirate maids with it
old galleon
nah they got destroyed
helm, on the othe rhand, carried a comp using rrh as the dps
so at least i'm over 800m after fight 3
rapid bough
treasure helm has such an insane combo of healing and damage if you use her for burst
old galleon
that comp is tia/liter/rrh/naga/helm, so yeah
first comp was the usual maid/sbs with dkw as the b1
rapid bough
i used helm with my crown team
and prolly always will
since she's such a perfect candidate to proc crown's buff
old galleon
second comp was cindy/rouge/rh/blanc/ludmilla
rapid bough
one day you'll get the king, i believe
old galleon
i used helm with my crown team
guess who has two thumbs and still no crown
aight now i get to try to cope with qeq in fight 4
rapid bough
she will eventually accept you as a citizen in her kingdom, trust
old galleon
i almost wonder if asuka wille would be a better fifth dps than an uninvested water attacker
okay so top 20% ain't happening, but i should be clear for top 30
right now i'm at 22.something
bruh my jank-ass qeq comp outdamaged the sbs one
which would make sense to an extent, were it not for the qeq team being literally a hodgepodge of nikkes i had left vs an sbs comp that is pretty much her best possible one
okay for w/e reason my screenshot tool doesn'tw ant to cooperate so i'm gonna report results manually
team 1 (sbs+alice): dkw/mast maid/anchor maid/sbs/alice, 129,546,514
team 2 (cindy+rh): cindy/rouge/rh/blanc/xlud, 169,174,717
team 3 (rrh+helm): tia/liter/naga/rrh/helm, 512,379,403
team 4 (qeq+ein): volume/marciana/qeq/ein/xmaiden, 132,944,053
team 5 (asuka w+rei): dorothy/grave/asuka wille/rei tentative/privaty, 101,707,355
total: 1,045,752,042
astute observers will note that the rapi helm team contributed over half of that lol
also i have no idea what i'm doing wrong with sbs
literally every time i use her anyway her comp always underperforms comparatively, even accounting for alice not having her skills maxed yet
rapid bough
i also have no idea what you're doing wrong with SBS comp lol
that comp wasn't a ridiculously high performer for me here since it only really excels in wind weak content
wispy goblet
yeah that's the exact same comp I used
Let me check my screenshot
old galleon
yours had like 400m or so
wispy goblet
491m, just checked
rapid bough
mine was something close to 1b but ofc i have better investments, the real difference is mine didn't die early lol
wispy goblet
oh
I did DKW-Anchor-SBS for my first burst rotation
rapid bough
it never even came close to dying
wispy goblet
Helped my survivability a lot
old galleon
Helped my survivability a lot
makes sense, tho idk how much it'd help mine
and since my computer wants to give me issues right now, i'm not gonna bother retrying
i'm fine with top 30%, better than the alternative
late canopy
old galleon
blue archive mentioned
late canopy
I've been having lots of fun clearing and recording clears of the highest level difficulty boss raids from BA recently
glossy latch
ZZZ: ||Seems were getting another role||
late canopy
It's not new news to most people who play but most people talk about the waifus and story from BA but lowkey BA is also a really fun game as well
glossy latch
||... Im confused why though||
late canopy
It's super fun malding and figuring stuff out at the endgame
runic ether
||... Im confused why though||
makes sense to diversify the cast more
slow raft
||puppet characters 
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