Eh Ill have to figure it out ig
#Gacha Chat
glossy latch
glossy latch
It is weird though how much harder ZZZ feels to actually get a good team in
rapid bough
first round of angler event and reclearing shiyu S got me a 10 pull and about halfway to another
still no eve
pull a banner character before pity in a hoyo game challenge (impossible)
glossy latch
Just get lucky 
rapid bough
i apparently burned all my luckiness when i first started the game
just been an endless stream of needing to go to soft pity and then losing 50/50s and then going to soft pity again ever since
glossy latch
Also I will say, its kinda funny how the ZZZ playerbase has been incredibly horny for basically every character ... except the one explicitely designed to be a seductress
Somehow Jane Doe became the goober in everyones eyes
rapid bough
people are and were absolutely incredibly horny for jane lol
she's just also got a really cute side that's easier to enjoy in polite company
gap moe gotta be one of my favorite genders (caesar my beloved)
glossy latch
I mean idk
Almost all fanart of her I have seen in the last couple months has been
"hehe funny rat"
rapid bough
as someone pretty keyed in to the gooner side of things, i assure you, the horniness is there and continues unabated
it's just easily lost in the next new hot character people are being horny for
in this case, eve
glossy latch
Fair enough
Also wow, what a surprise, the woman in skintight latex has gotten people down bad
rapid bough
idk everything about her design is just smokin hot, i think i'm on record saying she's my favorite design in the game so far
glossy latch
Idk who my favourite is
Lighter is just K' which is cheating
Maybe Jane Doe because I do like the rrat mannerisms
rapid bough
i'm a big fan of zhu yuan and yanagi's designs too
yanagi especially surprises me because i wasn't too big on her design initially, thought she looked like an NPC
but honestly that's sorta the point and it fits her character so it ended up being a slam dunk
runic ether
jane is def the funny rat
rapid bough
do not the rat
runic ether
like yeah shes obvs sexy and fanart reflects that
glossy latch
I like her weapon, but I think her design otherwise is dull, its just japanese businesswoman with a single pauldron
runic ether
the main sub had a post of jane and belle hanging out with jane's tail wrapped around belle's leg
rapid bough
i've said before i'm addicted to that one chibi art series of jane
it's so goddamn CUTE
runic ether
this is like 90% of jane art i see posted nowdays
long tree
Rat is good civ
rapid bough
oh god eous is onto us after the most recent picture event
glossy latch
I wonder if anyone has redrawn the "YOU!" image with Jane
slow raft
Ive def seen it
rapid bough
the what image
slow raft
In this style too i think
slow raft
the what image
glossy latch
Yep
rapid bough
i know i've seen edits of this one with jane
haven't seen anything like "YOU" though
rapid bough
i know i've seen edits of this one with jane
long tree
Cowards
slow raft
fgo has genshin beat by a mile in that aspect. p sure ibuki, demon king nobu and barghest are all taller than arle, im p sure
not counting the literal kaiju ofc
runic ether
asian height difference is funny
slow raft
the tallest form of ibuki isnt even in fgo yet
runic ether
tallest?
runic ether
thats not bad
wispy goblet
my internet goes out, severely impacting my remote work
me: this is really cramping my ability to do my nikke dailies
honest pawn
fgo has genshin beat by a mile in that aspect. p sure ibuki, demon king nobu and...
people keep thirsting for bargh but nobu is far superior
runic ether
i have seen barghest but i have not seen nobu idt
or maybe u guys showed her but idr
runic ether
oh yea i think u guys showed me this
slow raft
ascension 2 is notably shorter
runic ether
honestly i like barghest better. big armor is cool
slow raft
true true
runic ether
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/8/89/CE1643.webp/revisio...
wait hold up maybe i change my mind
honest pawn
THE NONBINARY SWAG
runic ether
thats the power of they/them pussy
honest pawn
cute, but none of these females can compare
slow raft
to the glory of roma?
honest pawn
slow raft
ok true
runic ether
thats lesbian drip
slow raft
this beatuy is why hes getting pegged by koyan methinks
patent swift
slow raft
damn, i dint know oberon has this many good looks
patent swift
||Patrick Warburton's two sons play argenti and mydei in the en dub||
slow raft
i apologize king of fairies, i was not familiar with your game
idle grove
I just saw the azur lane valentines post on twitter
and good lord this game really wants be an 18+
honest pawn
I WISH THESE WERE REAL COSTUMES
LIKE THE TAIGONG WANG WINTER FIT WOULD BE SO CUTE
IMAGINE IF HIS NP WAS HIM ICEFISHING WITH A LITTLE HOLE IN THE ICE
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
summer hornet
summer hornet
IMAGINE IF HIS NP WAS HIM ICEFISHING WITH A LITTLE HOLE IN THE ICE
First thought
But I do agree
slow raft
the oberon/merlin ce is actually so nice
runic ether
I WISH THESE WERE REAL COSTUMES
i appreciate that hoyo isnt the only company fumbling skins
summer hornet
So much effort goes into them
runic ether
his hands are hot
summer hornet
LMFAO
runic ether
im a sucker for faded skin/blackened skin ending in claws
slow raft
REAL
runic ether
or other non-human extremities
honest pawn
i appreciate that hoyo isnt the only company fumbling skins
don't you need to pay for hoyo skins?
honest pawn
the reason FGO doesn't do them is because they don't directly make much money from them
runic ether
they give 1 for free generally
honest pawn
unless they roll out a buff for the servant(s) at the same time
and throw them on rate-up
runic ether
tried and true classic
summer hornet
runic ether
shenhe got a skin and hoyo released 2 games between her last rerun and her next rerun
sorry to clarify
she last reran in early 2023
she got a skin, and hoyo released 2 games
before her next rerun
she didnt get a rerun for her skin
runic ether
is the 1st one sakura and berserker playing street fighter
summer hornet
Martha and Berserker, but yeah lol
summer hornet
Yep~!
runic ether
or is it
an oc
i see
lmao
actual question
have they explained their fascination with the catholic church
or is it just how we have an air of mystique by eastern religion here in the west
honest pawn
Nasu has gone on record to say that Shirou's strength is actually found through Jesus Christ, and his faith is what allows him to defeat the evil pagan mythological figure Gilgamesh
(it's the latter probably)
honest pawn
I think they wanna do more servants from Christianity but they can't do Jesus, Moses, or people adjacent to them
runic ether
i was gonna make a gate of babylon joke with the spinning jesus
but i couldnt thnk of it
though it was there
runic ether
I think they wanna do more servants from Christianity but they can't do Jesus, M...
not surprised
but it makes sense
runic ether
we are denied twink jesus
honest pawn
I'm glad they don't touch Him because I don't wanna see gay porn of Jesus on the timeline
runic ether
im sad they dont touch Him because i dont get to see gay porn of Jesus on the timeline
runic ether
i need more of an excuse to bust this out
honest pawn
you could just post this whenever Yuri sends a message
runic ether
they look oddly young but i like kama
runic ether
the scent of axe body spray...
lol
slow raft
kama is great
runic ether
silver/white hair is such an easy + for me its that easy unfort
slow raft
im still mad that avenger kama doesnt have her one outfit as a skin
runic ether
why is kama white
honest pawn
because she's using sakura's body as a vessel
slow raft
^
runic ether
why is sakura white
slow raft
cant actually summon divine spirits
slow raft
need to stuff them in some crummy human
runic ether
need to stuff them in some crummy human
does it actually limit them
or are they still just them
like if i summon say
thor
he has to be shoved in a human
would he still get his skills as the god of thunder
is it a durability hit or a power output hit
slow raft
well by definition all servants are already limited by being put into a servant container
im p sure divine spirits are also stripped of some of their dinity when summoned
runic ether
yea based on master's talent/magical circuits and such
slow raft
but im not certain on the details
summer hornet
Last picture post, one of my favorites in the game (for entirely obvious reasons)
slow raft
yea based on master's talent/magical circuits and such
its also a class thing
runic ether
oh right riders get a lot of nps
and uh
saber seems to be the easiest/best for raw power
archer longevity
slow raft
ie, lancer cu sucks at runecraft in comparison to if he were summoned as a caster
despite being the same person in life
slow raft
tell that to artoria
runic ether
though i also assume u cant just shove x into y class
summer hornet
except for Artoria
slow raft
yea
runic ether
kinda famous for that
summer hornet
slow raft
its explicitly stated that he does not have the reasoning for some of his attacks in his berserker form
just like lancelot cant do
arondfite overload i think?
in zerker
slow raft
im still mad that avenger kama doesnt have her one outfit as a skin
they also still havent made amle kama a skin 
runic ether
oh right despite being a beast lancelot was easily a better saber than a berserker but they had that limit put on him
runic ether
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/5/51/S239_Sheet_Male3.we...
im here for the male sakura x shiro
slow raft
just like lancelot cant do
arondfite overload i think?
in zerker
"Lancelot's second Noble Phantasm is For Someone's Glory. Originally, it was an ability that not only allowed him to hide his True Name, parameters, and appearance, but to disguise himself as another Heroic Spirit. However, he can no longer use this last ability due to the influence of Mad Enhancement. As a Berserker, its full capabilities can only be used if his Master forces him with a Command Spell,"
runic ether
damn
slow raft
mad enhancement being the signature skill of berserkers, exchanging rationality for strength
there are also a couple berserker servants with madness enhancement so low they are basically 100% normal
or even lower than some other non berserker servants
barghest for example has it at A+
meanwhile beowulf, the berserker servant has E-
Duryodhana is the other low madness zerk iirc
i think even taiga is higher than that
summer hornet
Didn't Castor and Pollux split Castor's ME between them or hide it by being a Saber or something?
Or was that the Avenger passive
summer hornet
Oh wait Pollux had Madness Enhancement lmao
Castor had Avenger
So they were both hiding by being in Saber class
slow raft
i also find it funny how in the early chapter of fgo all the male bersekers have like the "cant even speak human language" madness and the female ones are just a lil quirky
making it real obvious lmao
summer hornet
Definitely no skewed priorities
slow raft
well kiyohime is not just a little but it doesnt show early
idle grove
vlad is actually perfectly coherent smh
idle grove
ye
slow raft
they recycled the apocrypha cast a bit for that iirc
summer hornet
I forgot he was in the game that early lol
slow raft
didnt they also have atalante but without any significant role?
idle grove
yeppers
summer hornet
Sounds about right
summer hornet
Fighting Heracles was fun
summer hornet
Septem
slow raft
septem atleast was funny from time to time
summer hornet
I'm still upset about the literal waste of Waver and Alex there
slow raft
it is rather funny that they went as far as "wouldnt it be funny if we paired up little iskandar and big waver"
runic ether
how is waver in fgo does he just show up as lord el-melloi
slow raft
and then stopped at that
slow raft
how is waver in fgo does he just show up as lord el-melloi
demi servant
runic ether
demi!?
slow raft
like the divine spirits, a servant yoinks his body
long tree
I like how barghests madness with her limiters is just like "oh today is a lovely day, perfect weather outside, no disruption in the kingdom... Damn I kinda want to eat a guy though"
runic ether
like the divine spirits, a servant yoinks his body
real
slow raft
Zhuge Liang, to be exact
summer hornet
Sorry for the terribad quality
summer hornet
He ages down the more you ascend him
runic ether
ohh pair it with iskandar
slow raft
youll never gonna guess who takes reines el melloi
long tree
Fun fact: waver not only got his body yanked, but zhuge Liang literally shoved his responsibilities as a servant on him as well
summer hornet
And yeah it kinda mirrors Alex/Iskandar
runic ether
probs not cus i barely know reines rn
slow raft
Sima Yi
runic ether
Sima Yi
hm
idk she doesnt give those vibes
though ig it makes sense for the "siblings" to be a pair of famous tacticians
slow raft
"Sima Yi was summoned as a result of Zhuge Liang having been summoned into Lord El-Melloi II. A sort of chain summoning, in essence"
long tree
Muramasa body stealing logic: "I like making swords, but this emiya guy is the swords... Yoink"
runic ether
slow raft
Fun fact: waver not only got his body yanked, but zhuge Liang literally shoved h...
"Upon becoming a Pseudo-Servant, Sima Yi left all operations in the modern world to the vessel, much like Zhuge Liang. However, unlike Zhuge Liang, who is more open-minded and rational, Sima Yi often rises to the surface."
runic ether
ngl this is my exact reaction to most fate stuff ive been seeing and hearing about
summer hornet
I think in the Case Files event Zhuge and Waver just kinda yank the other characters and Heroic Spirits together
runic ether
wasnt that gil after he took a bath in the grail water
long tree
Demi is what happens when a currently alive person inherits the saint graph of a servant iirc
summer hornet
Demiservant is Mash specifically; born into the role
slow raft
^
runic ether
oh
summer hornet
Pseudos take people's bodies from across spacetime
slow raft
tfw designer baby
summer hornet
Well born isn't quite right tbh, Jot is on the money too
runic ether
shiro didnt inherit archer's saint graph when he took his arm in heaven's feel right
it was just like
long tree
Crazy how much I know given I haven't read anything
summer hornet
Mash is the fourth attempt to make an artificial human for the purpose of hosting a Servant
slow raft
that one was essentially just "growing up faster" iirc
summer hornet
Shirou cut corners because he and Archer are the same person
runic ether
okay bear with me for a sec cus idk who mash is
im thinking of names i've heard so far
slow raft
main servant of fgo
runic ether
oh i see
summer hornet
Gray is also similar, but different
long tree
Best eggplant
runic ether
i've seen her in way too much porn but it makes sense if shes the main servant in fgo
slow raft
mash kyrielight from dangerous beast?
runic ether
https://tenor.com/view/mashu-kyrielight-fate-fate-grand-order-hero-anime-gif-166...
this armor bothers me
summer hornet
Gray had Saber's genes implanted into her over time or something like that, so she could use (a version of) Rhongomyniad
long tree
this armor bothers me
Believe it or not it's the better looking one of the two modes she has
runic ether
im almost done with case files (had to slow down on fate stuff) but yeah i thought she was like
runic ether
literally artoria 2.0
though ig she can never get access to excalibur ever is my understanding
honest pawn
shiro didnt inherit archer's saint graph when he took his arm in heaven's feel r...
No
slow raft
honest pawn
when he got archer's arm he received his spiritual melanin and manifested Black Air Force Energy
summer hornet
.....
runic ether
that explains it better
summer hornet
I hate that
long tree
He got them pre cooked circuits with that magic built in
summer hornet
Like it's not wrong but
long tree
Issue is it cooks the rest of him too
Nice brain u got there human emiya shame if it were to be fried whenever you try to copy anything archer does
slow raft
hey, you want swords inside your body?
honest pawn
and not in the sexual way
long tree
Emiya manifesting the reality marble is still one of the highest aura moments I've seen
honest pawn
kill yourself.
long tree
Bro was like "I can't do it or I'm making a paradox so here's the sword, do it yourself and realise your ideals are shit" and emiya went "NUH UH"
honest pawn
and then archer remembered that he was GOATed and got over himself
long tree
"have you considered you're just a bitch archer and that I'll do better"
slow raft
"i challenge my fate"
runic ether
ok but consider
this was hard
slow raft
they should add a taunt button to zzz
runic ether
true
versed pawn
doesnt lighter have one on hold dodge
he had a taunt on the gamemode there
when he released
rapid bough
is it just me or did shiyu have more HP this rotation
i feel like i've asked this before and been wrong but i swear things lived for longer this time
then again, my miyabi team still felt normal so maybe this is just miyabi brainrot where teams that don't use miyabi just feel slow lol
glossy latch
It for sure has
runic ether
this is brainrot
c1 qingyi sped up my s11 and my harumasa
but i would have gotten around the same minute 30 time otherwise
glossy latch
Whats your Harumasa looking like btw?
And what team do you use (beyond just using Qingyi)
runic ether
2.6k atk
70/160
maxed core, autos, dash, 11/11 on ex skill and ult
harumasa/qingyi c1/nicole c6
glossy latch
Hmm
runic ether
i sometimes equip a bangboo if i remember
glossy latch
Odd that yours seems that much better performing then, its fairly similar stats
runic ether
rotations matter
glossy latch
My attack is even a touch higher now
runic ether
also my qingyi is c1 now which is kind of cracked
60:120
193 impact
lycaon w-engine
my nicole is 50:130
runic ether
im on swing jazz for her
runic ether
for harumasa a decent chunk
for qingyi also a decent bit
cus i have her very strong
nicole technically should be on anomaly stuff
but crit makes more sense here with qingyi's +15 crit rate boost
glossy latch
Anomaly Mastery 6 disc too?
glossy latch
Gotcha
My only guess is that my Nicole sucks
Anby isnt as good as Qingyi but it shouldnt be that huge a difference
runic ether
oh yeah my nicole and qingyi both have
maxed core
and maxed relevant skills
qingyi is 12 normals into 11 for almost everything else
nicole is maxed skill and burst
11 basically everything besides autos
rapid bough
My only guess is that my Nicole sucks
didn't you say that your nicole isn't c6 once
rapid bough
ic
glossy latch
I think I have every 4* C6 other than Seth now
rapid bough
frankly i don't buy that your nicole build is making a massive difference since she's used for her debuffs not her damage
runic ether
her damage isnt the contributing factor
rapid bough
feels like it's just a harumasa skill issue which is understandable because he's hard as fuck to play optimally
glossy latch
Well thing is
runic ether
not the be all end all
runic ether
juggle the buff uptime
glossy latch
Like I see people getting 50k numbers with his enhanced dash attack
runic ether
is probs the answer
glossy latch
But mine only does 20k ish
rapid bough
are nicole's debuffs up
runic ether
gotta refresh her shred
glossy latch
She applies them with chain attack, skill or ultimate, yeah?
rapid bough
or basic if she has bullets
runic ether
she gets damage off corruption
glossy latch
Then yeah the shreds should be up
runic ether
my qingyi stunning faster than your anby may be a difference
having 193 bc of lycaon wengine and c1 puts me at a faster stun window
rapid bough
qingyi herself is probably a massive difference lol
her stun damage multi is no joke
runic ether
anby is good too but my qingyi being cracked pushes me farther
rapid bough
if all he's comparing are harumasa dash attack numbers then there's no doubt in my mind qingyi is a huge contributor to the difference
anby has good personal damage but no actual buffs to harumasa like qingyi has
summer hornet
X
wispy goblet
she got the full kit
rapid bough
wispy goblet
too bad she's a midcarder because she's kinda niche
summer hornet
EVERY SINGLE KAZIMIERZ UNIT
IS MINE
Sleeping for a year and coming back landed me at just the right spot to get Fartooth
And now the collection is complete
old galleon
speaking of kazimierz did gravel ever get an alt?
idle grove
ayo
now I have no idea if this game is good or not
but this will fill the mecha hole in my heart since artery gear died
rapid bough
bro WHAT are the hoyo writers up to in this fucking game
old galleon
it was at this point the writers realized "excited" might be understating it
but they also realized calling her "horny" might get them a warning from google or apple
thankfully we have no such restrictions, so we're free to say she's horny as fuck
rapid bough
neat
though i don't use features like these often in other games (e.g. zzz), having options to view the state of your account and interact with things that don't require opening the game is nice
and more events/missions/etc. for in-game rewards are always nice
wispy goblet
so is this another app to download on the phone?
rapid bough
unclear, may be a web app you can open in browser
long tree
Nah "fish want me" too cause ellen
slow raft
2 second of from an s rank in shiyu 
long tree
They forgot to colour him in
rapid bough
hoyo had mercy
slow raft
grats
rapid bough
lol this means that if i had done a single pull instead of a multi i would've had her
kinda wish i'd done that since i'm interested in going for her wengine
guess i'll wait and see how many pulls i can save before her banner ends
slow raft
ive gotten 40 pulls in 4 days, im p sure im gonna be able to make to to pity
lets just hope i can win the coinflip
glossy latch
I think Im putting 10 pulls into her Wengine then saving for Hugo and Vivian
slow raft
X
mental acorn
only effective in bizarre fragments 
IS5 is neat i like how you can use the thoughts to craft shit
wispy goblet
cashing in some skill books into maid mast
wispy goblet
hmm
should I use my selection box for a bonus spare body to break 160 faster
or should I get a nikke I don't have yet
rapid bough
unless that nikke you don't have yet is ultra important, almost certainly better to use it on breaking the 160 wall
glossy latch
Oh I totally forgor you can keep getting weekly mats for energy in ZZZ
And on Evelyn I basically only need to get up to E for now
Thats nice
runic ether
thinking about that end of patch event in genshin which we could grind the domains for any material
glossy latch
Sucks though that Ill have to put the disc farming on hold to get all the other stuff ๐
rapid bough
i didn't prefarm eve mats because i wasn't even sure whether i'd get her lol
gonna be a while til i have her up and running
well, i guess i could burn the battery charge items but i'd rather hoard them instead of ever using them :^)
glossy latch
I did have S11 already which helped with the discs at least
Her discs arent optimal, I overcap crit rate, but theyre good enough
Skill mats suck tho >.>
Other than Nicoles C6, are there any other ways of getting crit rate?
old galleon
this feels like that one meme with the pornstar sitting on a couch surrounded by a bunch of men
except instead of sex there's gonna be a murder
rapid bough
guess we're not getting an in-ark story for the next arc (heh)
we're likely heading in the direction of finding out who the other two of the four beasts are (we've only met two) and finding out what happened to little mermaid and maybe the other old tales nikkes
wispy goblet
so who's the "traitor who is betrayed"
rapid bough
who knows
slow raft
so who's the "traitor who is betrayed"
||red shoes||
rapid bough
it's probably either one of the heretics (leviathan would be the one in this art), since they're "traitors" to humanity in a way
and the four beasts storyline also set up the fact that there are different heretic factions that don't necessarily get along
OR maybe it's liveryn, if they want to go back to ark-centric storylines
slow raft
You do not look like a pilgrim
rapid bough
false, she looks like grave
timber sigil
attachment farming is pain
but at least I got the best in slot muzzle for Springfield when she comes
rapid bough
how is that a BIS muzzle for anyone, surely a BIS muzzle is 4 offense stats like double crit rate/dmg and attack + attack boost
(which is hella rare but still)
timber sigil
Springfield I think is a healer RF
slow raft
Walter e2 aquired, now to test her in is5
rapid bough
i feel like mica recently updated lotta's auto battle AI and now she uses her freeze shot cone attack or whatever it's called
and now she feels even worse on autobattle
which is saying something because she fucking sucked before too
rapid bough
confirmation that all of the units from the first eva collab will rerun
as will all of the skins
wispy goblet
they want my wallet
old galleon
i know they're good but i'm not particularly interested in them
wispy goblet
Gonna probably have to pick and choose who to prioritize
old galleon
this feels like that one meme with the pornstar sitting on a couch surrounded by...
someone actually did it lol
slow raft
Walter e2 aquired, now to test her in is5
This shit is way too addicting
Won a run tho
mental acorn
I can see what cn meant about wis trivializing it
slow raft
Honestly maybe im just skill issueing but walter felt like the weakest 6 star link here
Logos and virtuosa carried way more and ascalon is insane
mental acorn
s3m3 mod3 pretty much solos fremont's first phase
and at least half the stages
slow raft
Oh right she has a module too
mental acorn
I have not yet gone for the other endings so I cannot say how well she stacks up there
but yeah logos is goated as always
slow raft
Got quick redeploy gadget and multiple starting sp relics
So i could just eepeatedly throw the twink at my problems
And insta nuke anything that stood in my way
Its crazy how long we went without a good new core caster and then they bring such a banger
Now if only i didnt pull him to max pot before getting my first walter
mental acorn
I think it's kinda funny how they introduced primal casters with the gimmick of dealing elemental damage and then made logos' module
he gets to transcend subclass boundaries as a treat he's just that cool
slow raft
Some elemental damage, as a treat
idle grove
this is really how gfl2 feels with gun attachments
https://x.com/CursedGunImages/status/1890829683580608764?t=vx0ArXVgupODOJCGhAFYuQ&s=19
X
rapid bough
that art + subtitle goes way too hard for a solo raid meme lol
old galleon
LMAO
first off, i don't trust random people on the internet with being able to properly write in english, much less for actual translation work
second, making the pay in-game currency instead of, you know, real currency
sounds kinda like a crime
vernal snow
Comedy
Plus like
Netease can absolutely afford to hire actual translators and proofreaders
old galleon
once square enix decided to wash their hands of cotc they probably should have just eos'd instead of giving it to netease
bc yeah, this is a farce
old galleon
i played before netease acquired it, ended up dropping in my effort to reduce the games i had to focus on, but hearing it was being given to netease did no favors with me going back
and this stuff is just awful
glossy latch
Oh great, Ill have to get new discs for Harumasa next patch >.>
rapid bough
i think i've decided to not go for evelyn's wengine and instead save for s.anby
probably will need to win 50/50 to get her, unless i get lucky like i did with evelyn
but even if i lose i'll probably just burn the guarantee on vivian
glossy latch
Im saving for Hugo and Vivian
Hugo for the aura, Vivian because I really could use an Ether DPS
rapid bough
with the "leaks" for the new drive sets (which is where i assume your harumasa comment is coming from), there's a strong possibility vivian will be an off-field ether anomaly DPS
which sounds amazing for the same reason burnice is good, but would also make her awkward if she's your only ether DPS option
glossy latch
I mean Im not planning to get Zhu Yuan, and we have no other options
Off-field is good enough
runic ether
if i lock in i do it
old galleon
well, i blasted through chapter 24 of nikke
....until the hard wall that is material h
rapid bough
dread it, run from it...
old galleon
good thing it's weak to wind, while i have exactly 0 viable well-invested wind nikkes
the stage before wasn't much better
yeah this clearly isn't happening right now
sbs is nowhere near enough
the problem is she tanks my power way too much
so i'm sitting here at 167k on a 40k or so deficit, which woudl be fine if i have more overloads to make up the gap, but i don't
old galleon
cannot overstate how much every version of the material h fight is just awful
from early story to mid story to solo raid to tower
can't think of a single version of the fight that's remotely enjoyable
wispy goblet
grumble
got tired and decided to do the nikke codes after my nap
the codes were no longer available after my nap
old galleon
if you're in the nikke server, connect your nikke account to discord and do your codes from the redemption channel there
easier than waiting to log in and such
rapid bough
cannot overstate how much every version of the material h fight is just awful
preach brother
though after playing quite a few gacha games now and with my history of playing MMOs and RPGs
i would add that gacha game boss design is consistently dogshit
the bosses either end up piss-easy or unbelievably frustrating, no in-between but sometimes both at once depending on the mechanics (looking at you nineveh)
i still think mirror container might be the worst-designed boss i've ever seen
long tree
the bosses either end up piss-easy or unbelievably frustrating, no in-between bu...
Join dokkan, pull the new unit and win easily or don't and die
I honestly think fate has the right idea for gacha bosses
Holy shit I just realised I'm playing the least amount of gachas I have been in years
There's hope for me yet bois
I'm on fate, dokkan (anniversary then will probably fall off for a while), battle cats (mainly just logging in rn) and then hoyoverse games are installed but on the back burning (not really interested in them much rn tbh)
summer hornet
HSR really does have me revisiting content in Arknights and FGO
summer hornet
Currently I'm FGO/HSR/Genshin/Arknights
I'll probably revisit GBF again whenever the Negima collab happens
slow raft
Speaking of hsr and arknights, behold: playable screwlum
summer hornet
slow raft
I forgot how addicting Is can be, i need to force myself to not start another rum
long tree
Dokkan really did just drop the two most hype units ever and then say "Welp enjoy popping bubbles"
old galleon
I honestly think fate has the right idea for gacha bosses
floofy was kinda bs tho
like on the whole you're not entirely wrong
but fgo definitely has its share of bullshit too
long tree
Dokkan has desensitized me to bullshit but that's fair enough
summer hornet
we definitely still have Fluffy, yeah
But on the whole, I think the game's done a remarkable job at making it possible to clear content with whatever servants you want
long tree
I'm used to "you can't dodge, stun, seal supers, I'm slot one supering so you take max damage, I can aoe super 4 times and 10 regular attacks, I have 1 billion hp (NOT A JOKE), 70 percent damage reduction, I reduce your attack and Def on hit, you can't move your units positions"
Like god damn bro let me pull out ol reliable
summer hornet
And it's purely turn-based combat, no open world skill expression like Genshin or real time cooldown strats like Arknights
summer hornet
Lmao
summer hornet
Year 1 vs Year 9 anniversary Servants for FGO
Da Vinci Caster and Space Ereshkigal
Tbh this screenshot doesn't capture the mechanical difference between the two
DVC has gotten buffs on everything but Space Eresh still does so much more
long tree
Oh right dokkan has a bug right now where the new gogeta does infinite super attacks, so we have a new member of the cooler drinking while driving club
summer hornet
The what???
long tree
summer hornet
Oh
long tree
But yeah the new gogeta does so many attacks right now that you can make the damage go into negatives and crash the game
old galleon
DVC has gotten buffs on everything but Space Eresh still does so much more
wild what dev favoritism does to a person
(and also being designed over half a decade later)
rapid bough
confirmed helm gacha skin... best girl stays winning and i stay cooked
rapid bough
unfortunately, i am the mark
even though this is only the second time it's happened, the combined favorite item buff + gacha costume release is such a transparent wombo combo money grab that i'm comfortable calling it a trend
(last time was for viper during the summer event)
last time was a bit different though because viper's item released on its own (alongside her costume)
this time we obviously got 4 at once, and they've said that's how they'll continue to release favorite items, with a new wave every 6 months
so in theory it was hard to predict who was getting the gacha costume, but in practice helm's item was so much better than the others that it was pretty obvious
add on her item story being basically the conclusion to a dating sim route and the fact she's part of the eva collab event? yeah they ain't hiding the helm favoritism
wispy goblet
shit dawg they really want me to drop a full-priced game for a skin for a character I don't have yet
Shift Up 'boutta make me delay breaking 160 just to get Helm
rapid bough
i really would encourage you to not even consider buying the skin unless you have the disposable income to not really give a shit (like me)
the pricing is genuinely a scam lol
old galleon
but also gacha skin, so scam
ye i was being serious here lol
wispy goblet
I plausibly could
it's moreso the opportunity cost of what I would not get instead
rapid bough
obviously i can't tell you how to spend your money, do whatever your heart or other body part(s) desires
but if there's even an opportunity cost to it i wouldn't bother
$60 doesn't hurt my bottom line enough that it would prevent me from getting something else i want
wispy goblet
okay oiler
rapid bough
and that's not me bragging like i'm stupid rich, i just don't really spend on a lot of things lol
i'm certainly well off but my biggest expense on average is genuinely probably gacha games at this point, and that's without whaling--for the most part i just buy the monthly stuff
wispy goblet
unironically it's competing with
MD gems
or a bunch of heavily discounted games in a bundle that I might not even play because they're old
rapid bough
i've been subscribed to humble bundle for YEARS just racking up games i never play
god nikke please give me more lobby screen options, preferably just (theoretically) unlimited like azur lane but even increasing to 10 would be wonderful
i have enough MLB burst animations + gacha skins i want to use that 5 isn't nearly enough
mental acorn
lmao
was already planning to pull for entelechia but this is really funny so now i Have to
summer hornet
Took me a hot second to figure out how everything worked, but now that I actually get it Integrated Strategies is really fun
Getting more mileage out of Enforcer here than anywhere else lol
mental acorn
is2 mention ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
summer hornet
Phantom of the Opera on hard mode ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
mental acorn
sure there's a few stages i'd much rather never see again (shoutout to fatal melodies fuck that shit) but as a whole i think 2 is still my favorite for now
is5 looking pretty hot though
slow raft
slow raft
Took me a hot second to figure out how everything worked, but now that I actuall...
IS is great because not only is it just a fun rogulike, it also allows niche or lowercost operators a chance to shine
What with the cost requirements and the occaisonal free operator
Alao apparently they recently relased is exclusive moduls? I got one on kalsit that makes her p bonkers in is
rapid bough
lol god dammit, maid mast is going into standard pool next patch but not anchor
i should've expected this since anchor's banner is going to run into next patch
but i pulled mast on rate-up rather than anchor
my wishlist plans have been thrown into disarray
guess i'm saving standard tickets for a bit longer
old galleon
lol god dammit, maid mast is going into standard pool next patch but not anchor
rip
if you have mast already i'd probably just push for anchor, esp with the reserves you have
old galleon
my god the valks are dorks
rapid bough
bay? i think that's my second dupe of her
one of these days i might get her leveled and geared for use in PvP since she's quite good there
but as of now she's a combat power liability so not worth
old galleon
i'm still missing a lot of the generally good arena units
rapid bough
as you'd expect i have almost all of them by now, but many aren't geared or skill leveled so they're still bad picks since they'd tank my CP if i put them in a team
what i have is enough to consistently get 2k gems at the end of season rewards though so i'm happy
slow raft
Me looking for a ruler dps for 90++: "well i already tried to do it with iyo and astraea and i dont have the mats to level davinci summer, guess ill have to try a berseker "
The 10/10/10 summer skadi in the corner:
Took me wqy to long to remember that she has a damaging np
old galleon
i'm running mlb bg iyo with 2x castoria and oberon
the np is sadly a range on wave 2
i'd probably unironically use a reasonably invested s skadi
IF I HAD ONE
slow raft
if its a range on wave two imagine how much more of a range it would be without mlb black grail
old galleon
yeah i wouldn't even bother without
i'd try to make the iyo/da vinci comp work instead
and god knows if that'd be even close
rolled a little on umu bride banner to see if i could np2 her after 3,000 years
got spooked by her eternal rival liz lmao
on the upside, liz is np2 now
somehow never got a dupe of her until today
slow raft
i'd try to make the iyo/da vinci comp work instead
yeah i thought of that but i have like no gems so itd be with a skill level 4 vinki
old galleon
yeah gems are a huge limiting factor
my da vinci was already invested but it was a bit annoying to finish off iyo
considering all the gems i need for everyone else still
we get the first gauntlet in like half a year or so and i still need to invest in a bunch of supports
cnoc na riabh is a must when she drops, and i'm also planning on using taigong wang, medb, caster gil
i guess not!medb doesn't exactly need gems, but the others do
summer hornet
if its a range on wave two imagine how much more of a range it would be without ...
I've grailed my Iyo but it's still not enough 
And I have Ruler Moriarty but he's still 6/6/6
So I've given up for the time being and just resorted to 90+
slow raft
yeah the same thing happened to me
"i sure wish i had another ruler dps"
the ever reliable multipurpose skadi:
slow raft
first, dou have enough coins for an append? its gonna be a bit wonky without
summer hornet
Oh heck Santa Martha
slow raft
oh, you dont have her leveled?
summer hornet
I haven't leveled her skills at ALL
slow raft
rip
summer hornet
I'll test 1/1/1 first, then try switching to Osakabehime or DVRuler or something
old galleon
I've grailed my Iyo but it's still not enough <:pensivecowboybread:7373672636355...
mine is grailed to 90 so that's normal
her s3 is only level 5 but i don't think it being higher would change much
i've had the range go as few as like 40k or so hp remaining
it kills outright about half the time or so
Rei Ayanami (Tentative Name) strengthens allies who use MG
rapi stonks?
slow raft
im so sad that i missed out on some of the ui themes
becuase i didnt read event details
summer hornet
So it's not quite enough for a guaranteed kill still
But it's also closer than every order attempt, which is utterly ridiculous
Even with Santa Martha at 5/5/1 with 1/1/1 appends
rigid pilot
Why not use Buster?
Okay actually my Mรฉlusine is quite invested
But she does clear
slow raft
"why dont the peasants just throw the maxxed out meta unit at the problem, are they dumb?"
rigid pilot
TO BE FAIR. My Mรฉlusine is NP5 but I haven't spent more than Summer's GSSR for copies.
slow raft
speaking of maxxed out, played integrated strategies makes me want to make a bunch of unwise choices again
rigid pilot
Many such cases
runic ether
this is why evil march is gonna show up in amphoreus huh
glossy latch
Evil march?
runic ether
oh right thats leaks
eh
is it actually?
i thought they showed a silouhette of hers for amphoreus characters
oh yeah they did
spoilers on details
||its not actually evil march, she just gets possessed by one of the amphoreus gods (likely the time titan) who will be piloting march's body as one of the chrysos heirs||
and for dan heng
||he actually becomes a proper chrysos heir, getting a god's coreflame. we assume its georios hence why he is fire/preservation||
back to march, ||she should be ice rememberance||
slow raft
Useable phantom in IS? ZAMN
mental acorn
yeah all the IS modules are turbofucked
I think eunectes' RA one is supposed to be good too
silver osprey
Rosmontis' IS module should've been her normal one 
slow raft
is5, dreadful foe
"ok i have a pretty good team, i think i can handle everything the game throws at me"
frostnova appaears and destroys my formation
barely beat her by stalling with mont3r
"gee, there sure are alot of enemies left"
mfw
long tree
TEXAS AND YATO I NEED YOU
slow raft
I dont pick them anymore in IS
But he did not stand a chance against Laqeramaline's son
glossy latch
Hmm
Im starting to wonder if I really should try for Phoebe since she might be Zanis best partner
slow raft
We are babel gaming
(Without walter)
I thunk this team will fuck up fremont real bad
Yeah so it turns out that fight is not the end of my journey
Ez win tho, kings relics are stronk
versed pawn
Im starting to wonder if I really should try for Phoebe since she might be Zanis...
Beta should been starting and we get a look into it
glossy latch
Isnt the beta still for 2.2?
versed pawn
Hasn't started yet
Tho people have the idea that zanis may also have a absolution and confession state
torn harbor
I just noticed the wizardry gacha is somehow doing better than atelier resna is
old galleon
resleriana is going eos in global iirc
versed pawn
But we wont know until after Phoebe is out right?
Phoebe is released since last week 
mystic python
Think he means after the banner is gone
torn harbor
resleriana is going eos in global iirc
It is yes
glossy latch
Think he means after the banner is gone
Ye that
old galleon
i've been reminded that favorite nikke poll is gonna be something this year
between cindy and rrh being what they are, dorothy always having staying popularity, and now helm being actively pushed by the devs
to say nothing of scarlet and her alt
rapid bough
i think i mentioned this when rrh released, but i'll be very surprised if it's not her
people are always thinking of the free skin they'll get, and cindy/helm/doro all have gacha skins
rrh deserves one!
old galleon
assuming people don't throw and vote her sr version instead
rapid bough
she's also a better unit than those 3 so
helm is favorite item gated (and still worse than rrh afterward), cindy is boss-focused, doro is just powercrept
so meta + skin considerations basically guarantee her the W imo
not to mention she's the face of the game lol
rapid bough
assuming people don't throw and vote her sr version instead
even considering this i just don't think it'll be an appreciable enough difference
red hood lapped the field on her poll, even for the one unit where votes could be split (scarlet and SBS) she got more votes than both versions combined
and the difference between her and doro at #2 was twice the number of votes that went to SR rapi at the time
old galleon
sure, but i wouldn't underestimate people's stupidity
anyway, old tales should win most memorable event, ye?
idk if overzone/red ash are eligible but old tales def has recency bias even if they are
rapid bough
nah overzone/red ash won the last two i'm pretty sure lol
i assume footstep walk run will be eligible and give old tales a run for its money
old galleon
footstep's like the only event i can think of (maybe last kingdom?) that'd come close
but old tales definitely had much more impact for me
rapid bough
i agree, i liked old tales more (no disrespect to footstep)
i highly doubt last kingdom would beat either of them though
it's the weakest anni event
definitely not bad, but the competition is very stiff lol
rapid bough
started playing zzz with damage numbers turned off and it feels very strange
i sometimes fake myself out and think i'm trying to attack during an immunity phase or something lol
but the additional visual clarity is well worth it, may just be placebo but i'm pretty sure i'm hitting dodges/assists more comfortably now
slow raft
Im back in is3 cause i still need that mizuki skin
Tried to make babel happen, didnt quite get evryone
rapid bough
"it was actually me, rapi!"
old galleon
man picking between her and cindy for favorite nikke is gonna suck
(i'm going rapi strategically but i adore them both)
rapid bough
time to organize a mass movement to ensure that she and cindy tie and therefore both get skins :^)
old galleon
unfortunately that's astronomically unlikely
rapid bough
it's basically impossible lol
old galleon
oh apparently survey's up in nikke
i'm not in game yet but people are already making movements for strengthening milk
slow raft
It just occured to me that i can run the iyo + ruler vinci comp if i simply borrow da vinki
However i am stubborn so im gonna stick with the one ive already set up
old galleon
does da vinci need bg or can she hold cutie?
iirc she needs bg, but if a comp can make her work with the event ce that'd be easier to set up
slow raft
The iyo + vinki comp works with non mlb bg on iyo and non mlb event ce on vinki
However, you need some levels into bg if you dont want to card the first wave
glossy latch
Damn, no W engine in the first 10 pull ๐
rapid bough
tfw gambling doesn't pay off
rapid bough
nikke survey checklist (idk if this one has a freeform dialog for open suggestions but i want to keep track of the things that i'd put there for when a survey allows it):
- more lobby background slots
- buff milk favorite item, so much potential but ended up being basically the worst so far
- make gacha skins less of a scam, either more features or less cost, preferably both lmao
- fix PC client bug when using a high DPI mouse that causes massive frame drops when moving the mouse cursor
- nerf combat power requirements of main campaign stages so newer players can catch up faster (this has happened twice before i think, and we're probably due for another)
anything i'm missing
imo the game could also do with more weekly or biweekly reset content... currently there's literally only sim room overclock which lots of people can't even finish. i feel like they should really add a resetting mode to tribe tower or something, all the patch notes that come out that are like "increased max tower floor to 650" are just hilarious to me because i'm probably years away from getting that far
but that suggestion probably wouldn't fit well into an open dialog box
unfortunately i think nikke is resting on its laurels a bit at this point, it has a consistent gameplay and event loop that hasn't changed in quite a long time
and i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, sometimes keeping an "expected" gameplay loop is actually for the best because it lets players settle into a comfortable routine
but it does make me occasionally wish they'd spice things up... stupid sexy ZZZ spoiling me with massive flagship content drops and new game modes every patch
(and yes i realize basically any comparison to hoyoverse games will be unfavorable because hoyo has infinite money and has the gacha content cycle down to a science, but still)
old galleon
nikke survey checklist (idk if this one has a freeform dialog for open suggestio...
prob cope but fix the firing rate issue for fast firing weapons (make them frame-independent)
old galleon
imo the game could also do with more weekly or biweekly reset content... current...
they should just uncap manufacturer tower attempts; the 3 per x cycle limit is excessive
esp as they add another hundred floors every so often
also make manufacturer molds less of a scam
they want to keep them half and half? i don't agree with that either, but i'll compromise, but at least get rid of the blues
there is no excuse for the molds you take several weeks to be able to use being able to give you a fuckin blue at the end of it all
i'd honestly just take the 20% fro mthat and bump up the ssr rate
70/30 ssr/purple still isn't great but it's better than what we have now
rapid bough
prob cope but fix the firing rate issue for fast firing weapons (make them frame...
good call, but yeah that's probably under so many layers of spaghetti that it's never gonna change
rapid bough
they should just uncap manufacturer tower attempts; the 3 per x cycle limit is e...
eh i'm fine with the cap personally, i can imagine to a new player it'd be pretty intimidating to have infinite attempts lol. there's a nice consistent progression to it atm imo, i'd prefer them adding a resetting component to it that's always available and can be done for rewards every 2 weeks or something
stray bramble
X
Are we really gonna do the "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson" with marco polo
Also what the fuck did they even do cause that is NOT Marco Polo
old galleon
Are we really gonna do the "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson" ...
yes since she got herself possessed again
iirc it's at the end of the last ur event
slow raft
Very solid team, despite not getting a single medic voucher for the entire run
slow raft
i recently noticed that the last hit of miyabis left base attack combo seemingly has a really high interrupt level, is that normal?
runic ether
that is
since she has a parry active throughout her normal strings, it caps off with a high interrupt. i believe a lot of autos have that really high interrupt at their end of the string
with the exception of "mage-types" like billy, grace, and rina
oh and zhu yuan iirc
slow raft
ive never noticed it because i usually play cautiously but ever since getting miyabi ive started playing really ignorant
runic ether
also not every character has optimal full normal combos
weaving x amount of normals -> ex or regular special -> swap etc etc
you often dont see it
miyabi does see it more often since she can 100% be played totally ignorant just mashing
slow raft
yeah thats what im doing
im also using yanagi suboptimal probably(bascially only as a disorder trigger) but its worked so far
runic ether
investing into her damage will def have her doing a lot more with proper combos on her
but yeah she is fine just triggering disorder in miyabi teams
(until it isnt)
basically in the harder content
but otherwise, if you are just farming, you can play pretty whatever and do well
glossy latch
Oh yeah you definitely want to upgrade Yanagi
She actually does insane damage, and will be a lifesaver in electric teams
slow raft
oh, i am building her properly, but in combat im just clicking the ex special or ult button and then switching out
glossy latch
though as a solo-carry, yanagi can kind of be a lot to memorize
Wait how so?
runic ether
start with the click special into her kagen combos
every time you'd go into her mid kagen normals 1 and 2, click special or ex special to go back to the jougen combos
since your special starts you at kagen normal 3
or jougen normal 3
and her i-frames are all over the place throughout
her swift ruten in her jougen's 3, 4, and 5 parry
and you can swap stances mid-combo
glossy latch
Also only annoying part about Miyabi: Getting into her first fully charged attack
Takes forever to get an anomaly on a boss
runic ether
yanagi is super free-form and can be very forgiving to just kind of mash
but getting optimal combos on her requires effort and timing
super beginner combo can be special into kagen stance normal 3, 4, 5 ex special into jougen normal 3, 4, special or ex special into kagen normal 3
and you can repeat
not the highest damage, but has the most i-frames active
you can also time her normals to make sure you have a parry every single time you normal except for jougen 4 and kagen 4
1 second delay to get the infinite parry
the only 2 attacks that wont have the chance is jougen 4 and kagen 4
glossy latch
Whats even optimal, going into Katana form as much as you can?
runic ether
nope you do want to weave both stances into each other
a super rudimentary combo is to do 5 normals from jougen into tap skill to get 3 normals starting at kagen 3 into a tap into 3 normals into a tap, into 3 normals into a tap etc etc
i believe if you have the energy, you want to start with hold ex -> kagen 3, 4, 5 without timing for i-frames, special or ex special into jougen 3, 4, 5 without timing for i-frames, and repeating this loop
if you wanna get really optimal
cut out all jougen 5
jougen 3 and 4 are beastly attacks (as is 5) but the animation is very long
glossy latch
Which one is Jougen
runic ether
jougen is the katana stance
the one that buffs electric damage by 10% and gives anti-interrupt
kagen increases pen ratio by 10% the naginata stance
glossy latch
Tbh I dont know what they do, I just make sure theyre both active lmao
runic ether
sicko mode going at it: ex special/special (with energy btw) -> k3, 4, 5 (timed with parries as necessary), (ex) special -> jougen 3, 4 -> (ex) special, k3, 4, 5 -> should be ult time here -> ex special -> j3, 4 (5 if you have a window), (ex) special -> k3, 4, 5
this cuts out all normals 1 and 2 from her kit which are her weakest normals by far which can steal triggers
if you are really at it, you can time her j5 as the anomaly trigger despite the long animation and get the fattest damage
which requires flowing from stance to stance on a precise timing
also
her special has a parry always so it can always be used to reset a combo against an aggressive boss
rapid bough
oh, i am building her properly, but in combat im just clicking the ex special or...
this is basically what you should be doing with her in miyabi teams lol
obviously you can make it more complex but yanagi just becomes a burst DPS when paired with miyabi that can also spam disorders for miyabi stacks
astra makes switching between them very easy and natural
runic ether
this is also true but if you do use yanagi by herself, its good to know her combos
glossy latch
I really should finish swarm disaster so I can finally get another dice and reroll that one unfortunate piece on my Herta
rapid bough
this is also true but if you do use yanagi by herself, its good to know her comb...
true but it sounded like guy was using her with miyabi
versed pawn
I always use miyabi without yanagi so I have anither dps open
rapid bough
also the advice to cut out the nagi's long animation finishers flips on its head with miyabi imo, since you can just start the animations then swap to miyabi
wispy goblet
now what is this woman up to
old galleon
"Would you like to eat (me) first, or have a bath (with me)?"
wispy goblet
these devs think they're so funny
rapid bough
should've let that encounter cook before you posted it since it 100% ends in seggs lol
SKK bags another
old galleon
rapi when yet another aegis squad girl steals a march on her
wispy goblet
saw an "Aegis is Ingrid's favorite child" meme
old galleon
true
rapid bough
at this point aegis is shift-up's favorite child lol
old galleon
all the available evidence supports this theory
rapid bough
they just keep winning
wispy goblet
Has Aegis even had a main story appearance yet?
old galleon
(now if only they could find an actual use for their ship)
rapid bough
Has Aegis even had a main story appearance yet?
nope