#Gacha Chat

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runic ether
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put jade on lingsha

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hyperspeed lingsha with break/atk/speed

glossy latch
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I need to build Lingsha before I can do that

runic ether
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time to build lingsha

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i'd recommend asta for that team

glossy latch
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Well that is the plan

runic ether
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asta buffs everyone

glossy latch
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I mean, Ruan Mei does too

runic ether
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and all of them do significant dmg

glossy latch
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And is arguably better at that no?

runic ether
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oh sure rm works

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if you arent using her 1st half

glossy latch
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Tbh I have no idea what Id use first half then

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Little Herta/Himeko?

runic ether
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i wrecked it with acheron but idt u have e2 acheron

glossy latch
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I dont have Acheron at all in fact

runic ether
glossy latch
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Didnt want to have to pull for her weapon

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Since her f2p selection is ... dire

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Also I have Kafka for lightning weak enemies

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Yeah I cant get past 58000

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Ill just try doing that then

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Actually Ill just try swapping teams first nyaruhodo

runic ether
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yeah idr what the 1st half actually has

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but i know the herta does much better 2nd half

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also build lingsha

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and in that team, 0 speed herta + hyperspeed lingsha with jade buff gets her ult up infinitely faster

glossy latch
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Tis the plan

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Also why 0 speed herta if youre putting the speed on Lingsha?

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Ah this is not going to work, the first wave sucks for Yunli/Clara

runic ether
glossy latch
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God why is Firefly doing poorly in this first half too

runic ether
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what are the enemy weaknesses of 1st half?

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also did you get fugue?

glossy latch
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I did, and all over the place

runic ether
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himeko fugue time

glossy latch
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Lightning is the most common I suppose

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... wait can Himeko chain into herself?

runic ether
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with a little help from hyperspeed serval but otherwise

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yes

glossy latch
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Thats fucked up

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I might try that yeah

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Would probably work better if I had a break Himeko set

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Actually no it wouldnt, that doesnt improve break efficiency

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I just need Ruan Mei as well (?)

runic ether
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yeah no need for break himeko enitrely

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*entirely

glossy latch
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Better but not quite

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Stumbles on the second wave

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Hm

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(On the first half)

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I'm ... gonna try something weird

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Nvm that doesnt work

slow raft
wispy goblet
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SR mold overperforming
not meta
but

glossy latch
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... why did the resin selector default to 4 of them at once?

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I guess Im gearing Lingsha now since I have to use up this energy

glossy latch
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... ok what makes Lingsha good?

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Because I feel like Im missing something

mystic python
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Good healing, cleanse is very nice, does ok damage in superbreak since she scales off break effect

rapid bough
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patch notes confirm they're implementing this after maintenance

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we are WINNING gfl2 bros

versed pawn
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Well I finally get to use Nicole

versed pawn
runic ether
digital marlin
slow raft
glossy latch
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Ok got 3* on it finally

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Just barely

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The trick was The Herta on the first half, and RM + Fugue + Lingsha + little Herta on the second

rapid bough
rapid bough
timber sigil
rapid bough
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i've been waiting basically since release to do so lol

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i think i opened the first 5-10 i bought but none after that, i prolly have like 40 of each type stockpiled

glossy latch
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Ok also got Apocalyptic Shadow maxed out

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This shit is harder than it should be lmao

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And not worth the 3 hours I spent on it, oops

digital marlin
summer hornet
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They’re streamlining a bunch of the puzzles and making some of the loredump exposition optional, which will make the story faster and stronger imo - even the voice actors were getting worn out by the end

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And they’re BUFFING CHARACTERS

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(Or maybe just making free alts for already released characters? But it sounds more like buffs to me)

long tree
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SEELE EZA REAL

summer hornet
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RANK UP QUESTS LESGOOOO

runic ether
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i hope its pure buffs and not any buffs/nerfs/sidegrading

torn harbor
torn harbor
runic ether
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bro you do not hae to leave ping on

torn harbor
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Sorry

stray bramble
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Bring those cubes home

digital marlin
silver osprey
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People be doing high risk with chilchuck lmao

long tree
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Mein gott

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Both new units

slow raft
timber sigil
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was this an intentional Pekora reference

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@rapid bough but also these story logs pertaining to Peritya and Krolik so far do give a lot more information on their backstories and to the overall story as well

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iunno if you've read em yet

rapid bough
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i have not

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i really haven't read any of the optional elmo logs

timber sigil
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if you have the time I'd recommend giving them a read

timber sigil
old galleon
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it's a term of endearment

timber sigil
timber sigil
old galleon
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looks like endearment to me

timber sigil
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even the dialogue dunking on Mayling lmao

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old galleon
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wouldn't have taken suomi for a cob fan but based

rapid bough
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isn't she supposed to be a big metal fan? typical scandinavian

old galleon
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sure but she doesn't give me cob vibes specifically

rapid bough
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finnish death metal
nuff said

old galleon
timber sigil
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yeah 1 part of her side story involves Mayling mentioning to Suomi that she's kept up at night by weird noises which turns out to be Suomi's death metal music that's heard through a faulty air vent

old galleon
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this is the track she mentioned

timber sigil
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I think there was also another part in a seperate story where she mentions finding a copy of Nirvana's Nevermind in the wasteland

old galleon
timber sigil
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in the past she had a scuffle with Papasha about her playing her music so loud

old galleon
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don't deprive mayling of even more sleep 😦

rapid bough
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also, went back and read the patch notes, it appears they're still not adding purchasable access perms in the redundant piece shop (the one that currently only sells sig weapons for the standard banner dolls)

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i spent 900 pieces to get qiongjiu's sig (worth imo) but i've still got 1100 of these pieces burning a hole in my wallet

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and that's gonna increase by a lot when the new patch comes out and i pull for dushevnaya and spend the 70+ standard pulls i've been saving for the rate-up feature

timber sigil
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yeah I've been slowly upgrading Mosin's signature

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atm have it at C4

rapid bough
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i'm definitely not spending pieces on dupes, and i already pulled tololo's sig off a banner at some point which is the only other gun i'd drop 900 pieces on

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in CN you can buy access perms for 30 pieces in that shop, so each sig is 30 pulls worth of pieces

timber sigil
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yeah I'll probably save once I get a few sigs to suitable levels

rapid bough
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weapon dupes aren't important enough for me to target them over just saving imo

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i'd rather organically let dupes come in as i pull for dolls

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like for mosin's sig which i already got a dupe for

timber sigil
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I'll probably focus my standard banner on Mosin too

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since I have her at V3 now

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until I get her V4 that is

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man everyone loves throwing around the word 'dork' huh

rapid bough
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i'm absolutely focusing standard on qiongjiu until at least v3

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then probably tololo until i get her since i don't have her yet

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then idk

timber sigil
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Vepley supposedly good for bossing idk haven't started investing into her yet

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Peritya gets better w/Klukai and Mechty/G11

rapid bough
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it's pretty funny how dupes + corrosion chars move peritya from bottom-tier awful to actually quite good

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but we're a long way from that

timber sigil
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Ullrid gap moe lmao

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oh my god it's one of these LMAAAAAO

rapid bough
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i don't think i'm anywhere close from investing in vepley, her debuffs might be good for bossing but i feel like i'd rather just put another higher DPS option in a team

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and daiyan powercrept her only other niche which is mobility

timber sigil
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Yeah Daiyan is a beast

rapid bough
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idk if i'd call her a beast but i've definitely been happy i have her

timber sigil
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at least with mine she insta shreds 10 stability points from a target

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so she's been amazing for boss fights

rapid bough
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didn't you pull to v6 though lol

timber sigil
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I gave up at v4

rapid bough
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rip

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still a pretty significant power difference

timber sigil
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because I realised it'd be more sensible to stop

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after reading the v5/v6 perks

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altho the v6 perk sounds broken

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1 stack of perma tuning each time an enemy is killed on the map

rapid bough
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and according to this, daiyan v4 is her biggest powerspike

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so

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you stopped at a good point lol

old galleon
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anchor banner is in a few hours right?

rapid bough
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makes sense too, since v4 buffs her counterattack by a ton

timber sigil
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whenever her rerun rolls around I'll pull for v6 b/c wife

rapid bough
rapid bough
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i might pull for suomi's sig if i get lucky on dushevnaya pulls

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she's a broken enough character that i feel comfortable "optimizing" her, and her sig is pretty good

rapid bough
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wonder if someone made a dupe that is getting updated

old galleon
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as opposed to after

rapid bough
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yeah my mistake for trusting google, i asked it to convert 5am UTC+9 to EST and it gave me noon but that doesn't make sense. it should be 3pm since UTC+9 is 14 hours ahead of EST

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so yes anchor drops at daily reset time

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heh, anchor drops

rapid bough
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this is definitely far more organized lol

timber sigil
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I'm a firm believer of there being no bad units at least in this game just characters with different niches

rapid bough
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i think that's true of basically all gacha games, since 95%+ of content in gacha games is purposely piss-easy so it's grindable and therefore can be completed with basically any character(s) you want

old galleon
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it's definitely possible for gachas to have simply bad units

rapid bough
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it's that top ~5%-ish of gameplay like boss battles where having optimal teams/powerful characters really helps

old galleon
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doesn't necessarily mean you can't clear content with bad units, though

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that said, it's harder for them to be outright bad in a game like gfl2

rapid bough
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like i definitely could not have already finished gfl2 boss battles or PVAs without makiatto/suomi/qiongjiu carrying the shit out of my team damage and survivability

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though shoutout lotta for being a goated AoE DPS that we got v6 for free

old galleon
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gfl2 does rarity mostly correctly, where despite the purples not being the highest rarity, they still get basic features that help them keep up

timber sigil
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I kinda wish we'd get more purple units as well for a cheaper option instead of constant golds

old galleon
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then you have a game like feh or another eden, where not being the highest rarity actively kneecaps you (tho at least those games give you a way to promote most characters to 5*)

rapid bough
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when was the last time gfl2 released a purple unit in CN?

timber sigil
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Lotta

rapid bough
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was lotta the first? (since suomi event was an anni event for them iirc)

timber sigil
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at half anniv

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1st anniv was Klukai

old galleon
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if there's a silver lining there, that should theoretically make it easier to v6 all the purples over time

rapid bough
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so is lotta the only purple they've released post-launch? lol

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at least she's good!

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(and could be v6'd for free just by playing her event)

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nikke has definitely thrown off my sense of purple vs gold units since purples are borderline useless and golds are so oversaturated that there's an even mix of OP vs alright vs awful ones

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azur lane too to a lesser extent, since rainbows threw everything outta whack there. new golds are still generally quite good though, purples not so much

timber sigil
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ah Dushev is very cultured

rapid bough
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LMAO

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that had to have been the localization team taking some liberties in how they translated that

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i can't imagine her original CN dialogue legitimately referenced mulan

old galleon
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and this is why direct translation purists can be safely ignored : ^)

rapid bough
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at long last the OP horny nun/CV will be mine

old galleon
timber sigil
# timber sigil ah Dushev is very cultured

context of this btw is that Lotta's trying to make a short film to capture the essence of what it means to be a hero for their community, Suomi and Dushev volunteer to act in said film but can't get into character

rapid bough
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i know you're joking but i'm actually not into the whole ASMR thing so no i did not buy hers or anyone else's

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i haven't even watched rapi's ASMR, i just thought it was super based that kayli mills did it

old galleon
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you're missing out

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tho i know it's not for everyone

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(the rapi one is def much more wholesome than lewd)

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(the implac one is def much more lewd than wholesome)

rapid bough
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yeah i know lol

timber sigil
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I love these illustrated scenes they're so good

runic ether
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oh i was just kidding i didnt mean to get her it was just building pity

digital marlin
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Wait replayed to rong message but right person

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FGO has some notorious bad units in it but can still be used to clear content

old galleon
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i don't have to bring up fgo every time this topic comes up, i think everyone knows low rarities in fgo are quite good too

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but ye

digital marlin
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Got rep
😤

old galleon
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and at least phantom is no longer in competition for worst servant in the game lol

digital marlin
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Got to give prompt to FGO for buffing old units

slow raft
digital marlin
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Feel like FGO is the one that goes.back and buff older units the most out of othe gachas

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Others usually have it as a one and done where as FGO you have some year ones that got buff 3-4 times
Like Emiya

slow raft
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fwiw arknights regularly does batch buffs for entrie archetypes and that usually benefits the low stars quite a lot

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but theres only like 2 units who are actively bad so its not like buffs are needed all that much

old galleon
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arknights module system is pretty neat yeah

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ofc it also sometimes results in units who really don't need an upgrade getting one

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which was always funny to me

slow raft
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thorns really needed more damage for sure

slow raft
glossy latch
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... ah fuck I forgor Boothill reruns now

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I kinda want him too >.>

old galleon
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also reminder that this event's 90++ really wants you to use rulers

versed pawn
old galleon
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okay, it almost got into crisis territory but i did pull anchor

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and have mileage to spare

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also was able to grab hq mold but ofc i got scammed again

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so the only particularly good things out of my rolls are anchor and an ein dupe

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if i'm an apprentice maid, don't call me master

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also why

old galleon
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tetra team consists entirely of fantastic units
hard walled in tower anyway

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idk lol

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this is legit the first day i may not be able to do all 3 floors

old galleon
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some people might say "only" 70%

old galleon
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yeah anyway tetra 125 isn't happening today

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stage demands powerful aoe and i have exactly none of that, between noir's burst being low multiplier and alice not being in god mode due to still being new

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and bunny soda having no meaningful investment of her own

rapid bough
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10-pull for luck...

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nothing, rip

old galleon
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next one will give you anchor

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trust

rapid bough
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i've decided to just do a single 10 pull for lulz on all new banners where i'm otherwise just gonna wait til they end up in the standard pool to get wishlisted

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though maybe i should just take the plunge and get both anchor+mast since they're a duo and counting on the wishlist/molds for that might be annoying

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god knows i have enough pulls banked to not really care

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but naaaaaaaaaah

old galleon
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i don't have enough gear banked for them so i have them sitting on the bench right now anyway

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but i'll be using them in elysion tower for sure

rapid bough
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yeah they'd spend forever on the bench anyway if i got them now so i'm in no rush

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i have the gear but no dolls (well, no doll upgrade mats)

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helm bled me dry

wispy goblet
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Allegedly they're a duo stronger than Naga-Tia if I'm remembering the review I saw right

rapid bough
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for pure damage i'm not surprised since that's what they're catered to

slow raft
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did one 10 pull and i got yuni

rapid bough
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but naga/tia have shields and healing which can be very important depending on content

slow raft
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mesage received

old galleon
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they're theoretically stronger off core but no one's had them long enough to test them in game

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would take any early reviews with the usual salt

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i do expect them being theoretical best with sbs to hold up tho

rapid bough
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we'll see. using them with SBS makes using mana impossible since anchor will steal her charge time buff

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so especially on wind-weak bosses it might be best to keep SBS with mana

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or maybe SBS is still just tied to alice despite mana being basically perfect for her lol

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mast/anchor benefit other nikkes too at least, like alt quency

old galleon
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correct

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i also still think they'll be generally useful in tower

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your b1 of choice between dkw and rrh (i prefer b3 rrh in tower), the horny maids, then your b3s of choice

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seems like a generally good squad unless you need something specific

rapid bough
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they'll almost certainly be used in elysion tower (when geared to the point they're not tanking your combat power lol)

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they're elysion's first duo after all

old galleon
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well "lucky" for me my highest power b2 is marciana, who's not super highly invested, so it's not a super high bar for me

rapid bough
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i think "optimal" elysion tower will end up as dkw/maid mast/maid anchor/rrh/treasure helm

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maybe switching helm out for AoE like maid privaty if the stage calls for it

old galleon
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still need 90 more of her favorite item mats

rapid bough
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i'm 100 away

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more importantly her doll refuses to give me super success in the final stretch

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stuck at level 12 lol

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completely out of mats

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solo raid starts up in 5 or so hours though, hopefully that'll get me the rest of the mats i need before it's done

rapid bough
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time to go back and do like 10 chapters worth of nikke sidequests and EX stages that i've been postponing for god knows how long lol

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wonder how many gems i have banked in these

glossy latch
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How's the Amphorea story btw?

runic ether
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honestly good albeit predictable

glossy latch
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I see

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Maybe Ill play through it some time then

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Not as good as the first two chapters of Penacony though, I take it?

patent swift
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MY WIFE CAME HOME RAAAA

patent swift
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Bc this one lasts 3.0-3.7

rapid bough
glossy latch
runic ether
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thats right

long tree
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No more luofu

glossy latch
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Neat

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Still wish Penacony got that treatment

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The first two chapters were so much better than what came after 😔

long tree
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You gotta understand we needed more time to dedicate to ensuring the yanqing jobber memes ended

glossy latch
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I dont think they did since the unit still sucks nyaruhodo

long tree
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Yeah but look

summer hornet
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That's why we're getting the buffs

glossy latch
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I have Yanqing (unfortunately)

long tree
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Sunday looking for a motivation "Ayo this N guy doesn't know shit, keep the Pokémon in the pokeballs"

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(the Pokémon are people and the pokeballs are penacony)

summer hornet
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That's one of the most bizarre comparisons you could have made

long tree
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Tell me it's not apt and explored worse somehow

glossy latch
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Also wow I just realised I have not been keeping up with the story of any gacha

summer hornet
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Too many gachas?

glossy latch
summer hornet
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Salt had a point with this one

glossy latch
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Well except Genshin, there is the VA strike that made me not play it (... and also I kinda dont care for Natlan)

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WuWa I could actually play the current chapter I just ... havent

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From what I've heard its a big improvement tho

long tree
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You know what you could play

glossy latch
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Star Rail had too much Luofu

summer hornet
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If you say Dokkan

glossy latch
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I do not care for Luofu

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And ZZZ ... eh, idk

long tree
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DRAGON BALL Z DOKKAN BATTLE NOW CELEBRATING ITS 10TH ANNIVERSARY JOIN NOW TO PULL FOR VEGITO WHO GAPS THE ENTIRE GAME BY 6X DAMAGE AND CANNOT DIE AND PULL FOR ||GOGETA|| SUPER MARIO IN PART 2

long tree
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The real goat though

patent swift
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Also please ping uno

rapid bough
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something i've noticed with ZZZ (and i've heard is a problem in all hoyo games)

summer hornet
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Wardance was an improvement over the original Luofu, I gotta say

glossy latch
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Ovven, but sure

patent swift
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Oh my bad

glossy latch
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Also Jot I am not gonna play a DBZ gacha

rapid bough
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the writing in portions of the game that are voice acted/animated in cutscenes is good, clean, concise, and engaging

glossy latch
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I am a fool, but I am not insane

rapid bough
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but the writing in portions that aren't voice acted is a nonstop exposition dump with a deluge of walls of text

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i swear to god hoyo writers have to be paid by the word

long tree
# glossy latch I am a fool, but I am not insane

One day all gachas will die and the only one that will remain is dokkan battle, fgo is ending the main story, the older gen has died out, hoyoverse games have a shelf life, you'll have no choice eventually

rapid bough
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my eyes routinely glaze over reading through new text events after like 2 or 3 text bubbles that are each a paragraph long

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and then there's like 10 more text bubbles before things actually happen

summer hornet
old galleon
rapid bough
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horny is timeless

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there will always be another

long tree
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Yeah I don't feel like dokkan competes in the same genre as horny gacha

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Because dbz and boobies are eternal

rapid bough
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i'll miss nikke when it finally goes EOS, it really hit the sweet spot of horny vs engaging story/characters for me

summer hornet
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Semi related note but it's still surreal that FGO is ending the Lostbelt saga this year

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Literally ten years since the start of the game

long tree
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MC has earned their rest

glossy latch
old galleon
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lb1 was 2018 in japan

long tree
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Meanwhile in dokkan we have spent 10 years trying to find goku

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We have still not found him

old galleon
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so about 70% of the game's lifespan lol

summer hornet
glossy latch
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I still havent even finished LaL

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And I also have a game coming up in a week that I have been waiting for

long tree
glossy latch
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At this point the only way I start a new gacha is if we get a Kamen Rider gacha that isnt aimed at Fujoshis

slow raft
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Not gonna happen

summer hornet
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that isn't aimed at fujoshis

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Even I know that's a pipe dream

slow raft
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Gachas need a delusional fanbases that spend qbsurd amounts of money for no good reason so unless youre willing to spend hundreds of dollars on santa poppy, youre shit out of luck

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Alternatively, the monkey paw curls and you get a shitty low quality web based pay to win gacha that will eos in 4 months

long tree
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...make it a base building game

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Its where franchises that cant stand on their own in the mobile market go to die

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(Naruto)

summer hornet
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"I can see your screen, why tf you laughing"

"Mad disrespectful"

honest pawn
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lots of cool rewards

old galleon
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guess my sense of time is going

glossy latch
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Limbus' gameplay didnt inspire me

old galleon
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i never got around to trying it

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had way too many other games on my plate (arguably still do)

runic ether
rapid bough
runic ether
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genshin will have unvoiced world quests with massive lore drops and implications and another about a man and his sea slug wife trying to get by

slow raft
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Limbus does have an existing base to build of of so thats understandable

rapid bough
old galleon
runic ether
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neither is voiced

slow raft
old galleon
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rip

honest pawn
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I would say Library of Ruina's gameplay is far superior to Limbus' but it's still good

rapid bough
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i can appreciate the amount of world- and character-building they can do with all that dialogue but i just don't care about 95% of it lol

glossy latch
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Mostly mechanics yeah

runic ether
slow raft
runic ether
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especially with modern gaming standards

glossy latch
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I mean I mostly just watched some gameplay lmao

slow raft
old galleon
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tbf for me at least, fgo story is still quite good despite almost none of it being voiced

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tho in a game with both voiced and unvoiced i can understand

runic ether
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but i imagine its a combo of not wanting to make each va as rich as nepal is off one patch and also the file size going up in size the same way the grinch's heart did

rapid bough
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it's not a lack of voiceover that's inherently problematic, plenty of unvoiced nikke events are fantastic for instance

old galleon
#

i'd agree, i'm just saying i can see why people might be less engaged by unvoiced stuff

slow raft
runic ether
#

word dumps dont help yes

rapid bough
#

it's a lack of voiceover apparently being accompanied by the editors being on strike and not willing to trim down the writing to normal levels

runic ether
#

this isnt the case for hoyo

#

they actually write all that text down

#

they do trim it

#

💀

rapid bough
#

nah the trimmed portions are what they use for the voice acted segments

runic ether
#

english text is trimmed down from chinese iirc

rapid bough
#

for unvoiced portions they just write as much as they want because they're probably paid by the word and don't need to worry about getting a VA to record lines for five centuries

slow raft
#

Nasu when he writes more words than the bible for a single chapter because of his arthurian myth hyperfixation again

glossy latch
#

Im not gonna invest time if I dont think Ill like it

old galleon
rapid bough
#

i swear there have been single unvoiced dialogue interactions in ZZZ with more text than like 5 nikke event chapters on their own

glossy latch
#

Especially since my backlog is eternal as is

#

Again, havent even finished LaL

#

And Trails through Daybreak 2 is coming out in a week

rapid bough
#

if it's all story relevant text then even then i can get through it

slow raft
rapid bough
#

but so much of that text is repetitive and/or pointless

runic ether
#

(its about someone's dog in a hollow)

#

(it'll be relevant to hugo and vivian)

idle grove
#

somehow FGO writes so much and then it doesn't feel like it's overstayed its welcome

slow raft
#

If theres two things that nasu loves its arthurian myth and giant women

idle grove
#

I wish avalon would get a 25 episode anime adaptation

#

it really needs minimal fgo knowledge because it is just its own story

runic ether
slow raft
idle grove
#

yeah probably

#

but when does modern anime do more than 25

#

give me back my 50 episode mecha animes

rapid bough
#

speaking of random side story lore dumps, nikke coming in hot with unexpected ingrid lore (tacticaltitac is ingrid's burner account lol)

wispy goblet
#

Ingrid confirmed had a dad

slow raft
#

Cutting it less close than usual

rapid bough
#

text exchange after a sidequest in chapter 25

summer hornet
glossy latch
#

But how would you describe Limbus' gameplay Guy?

old galleon
rapid bough
#

no but AoT is

slow raft
#

Idk its a bit difficult to describe
Def turn based strategy

runic ether
#

i think every limbus company character i've seen is right up my alley i just havent gotten around to delving into project moon shit yet

slow raft
#

You do have to adapt to bad luck from time to time but its mostly teambuilding and counteracting what your opponents do

long tree
#

Just hear the thonk of the chain and then hit auto

slow raft
#

You can also do index gaming

#

In fact, if you come into the game nowadays and pull/borrow one or two modern units you can probably winrate your way all the way till 4-48

summer hornet
#

it seemed sort of like FGO? Each unit gets 2 cards per turn, with the chance to get more based on special effects and gauges and whatnot? But the actual 1v1 combat confused me

honest pawn
slow raft
#

You can swap the bottom of them out for defense or ego skills, and when you use a card it gets replaced by the next

#

There are certain scenarios whwre you can get more slots

#

(Eg solos)

#

Two types of encounter, focused and not

#

In focused you can have to target enemy slots yourself, in not focused you dont have the choice

runic ether
slow raft
#

does the knowledge that angelica does ||essentially dante combos|| change that in some way?

runic ether
#

somewhat

#

which style

honest pawn
#

yes

wispy goblet
#

Missilis Defender gear
only Missilis Defenders I have are Centi and Ether

#

It's time

glossy latch
#

Why is this Shiyu also suddenly way harder?

#

I am s truggling with the sixth one, nvm the seventh

#

I missed out on A-rank even

wispy goblet
glossy latch
#

Ok did it by switching Yanagi around

#

Somehow Harumasa still feels weak, and idk why

rapid bough
#

are you big braining his burst rotation to get like 14 slashes or w/e the number is

glossy latch
#

Well I am doing some optimisation, but not perfect optimisation

#

That shouldnt be the difference between an S- and a B-rank tho

#

Idk, it really feels like mine is weaker than he should be, and I cant quite figure out why

#

Eh, Ill revisit it at some point

#

Ok looking at it my ATK might be low, tho idk why

#

Still, did get an S-rank by using Yanagi on the electric half and Piper as the Miyabi engine

wispy goblet
#

FIRST TEN PULL LET'S GOOOOO
I'd like to thank everyone else for lending me their luck spirit bomb-style

glossy latch
#

Actually, I am starting to think that pairing Yanagi and Miyabi might like

#

Not be good?

wispy goblet
#

ALSO BUILT-IN DUPE IN THE FIRST TEN PULL LET'S GOOOOOOO

glossy latch
#

Like Yanagi wants to be on-field as much as possible, and while Miyabi can be used just for burst windows, she feels stronger as an on-field too?

#

Granted maybe my Miyabi is just not strong enough yet

rapid bough
#

yanagi can work just fine without 100% field time since miyabi buffs anomaly buildup rate and sets up free disorders by the dozen

#

in fact disorder spam is basically yanagi's purpose when used with miyabi

old galleon
#

also congrats

rapid bough
#

miyabi feels strong as an on-fielder because she's OP

#

but she's awkward as a solo carry without dupes

glossy latch
#

Yeah no I get all that

#

It just feels like Yanagi is stronger as a second team?

wispy goblet
#

solo raid time
how far can we go this event

glossy latch
#

Like playing an undergeared piper felt worse, but not so much worse that it wasnt worth it

rapid bough
#

well there are a lot of teams miyabi works fine with, mostly on account of her being OP as shit

glossy latch
#

But also Harumasa just felt so bad on the first half, and I really dunno why lmao

old galleon
wispy goblet
#

ye
Material H

old galleon
#

i have exactly zero water dps built up lol

#

i don't expect to full clear

wispy goblet
#

first three I should be able to two
last time it was stages 4 and 5 I was struggling with

rapid bough
#

ludmommy gonna have to carry me to the promised land

wispy goblet
#

I have Quency EQ, Ice Ludmilla, and Ice Guillotine

old galleon
#

my ludmilla's as close to it as i can i guess, but only 1 or 2 pieces

wispy goblet
#

gotta remember to split them across different teams for the harder difficulties

old galleon
#

helm lacks her favorite item so her damage falls off a cliff comparatively

rapid bough
#

i'm high enough level that i can easily auto all but the final challenge stage tho

old galleon
#

(must be nice)

rapid bough
#

even with suboptimal teams

#

base privaty gonna come in clutch for these attempts

wispy goblet
old galleon
#

i will not condone this incineroar on kyogre violence

wispy goblet
#

got an SMG doll at least
might throw that on Quency EQ

runic ether
#

its 19 slashes

#

results in big pp damage

rapid bough
#

19? jfc how

runic ether
#

animation cancels

#

or u pulled c1

#

whichever

#

c0 can do it but its strict

rapid bough
#

i might have to pull silver anby for a braindead electric DPS so i don't have to worry about 500 apm harumasa play lol

glossy latch
#

Ok I see a way to up his damage, but I need to get some very specific discs

runic ether
glossy latch
#

Ok he does like

#

60+k per dash attack

#

And I know Qingyi adds a fair bit of damage, but somehow Im closer to 20k

runic ether
#

have you maxed his relevant skills?

slow raft
#

No, he needed to get perfect disks first, obvs

rapid bough
#

classic ovven

runic ether
glossy latch
#

I have actually

#

His dash attack is maxed out, his core skill is one short

runic ether
#

max core

glossy latch
#

Mostly because the CR boost would overcap and the 6% crit damage core gives is not that much

runic ether
#

its his biggest skill then dash then normal and ult

glossy latch
#

So I've been focusing on other core skills

slow raft
#

Speaking of disks, i have started relic/disk farming again and i sure do love dumping an entire days worth of energy without getting anything useable from it

glossy latch
#

I think my goal now is gonna be to try and max out some of his skills

runic ether
#

the strongest of us are those who go into the mines for literal yesrs to get a 2% increase

glossy latch
#

And then try to switch woodpecker to branch and blade song

#

Mostly because I have a maxed out 5 piece thats way better than his current one

slow raft
#

Reminds me of the time i spend two weeks farming for firefly gear and its still ass

glossy latch
#

But also I can un-overcap

#

And replace it with a ton of crit damage

#

The annoying part is I need a specific disc 4 tho >.>

rapid bough
#

alright time for a gfl2 standard banner pulling frenzy, i got 73 standard tickets

runic ether
#

honestly 2pc/2pc/2pc is not bad in haru

rapid bough
#

first 10-pull after selecting qiongjiu as rate up, it is simply that easy folks

glossy latch
#

Not with the amount of ATK I have as is lmao

slow raft
#

Atleast hsr has a feature where it highlights the good substats now, that makes sifting through hundreds of relics to find a useable one much more bearable

rapid bough
#

just hit the 260 guarantee too, picked up tololo

slow raft
#

Could not be me

rapid bough
#

last 10-pull got me a second qiongjiu

#

so 70 pulls got me 2 qiongjiu and a tololo, blessed

slow raft
#

Also could not be me

rapid bough
#

unfortunately qiongjiu's first two fortification nodes aren't that good

#

her v3 is a massive powerspike though, i want that shit

slow raft
#

Tho atleast in this game i have already won a coinflip and even got a unit before pity

#

Massive Ws

glossy latch
#

Still idk, its kinda weird, my Harumasa isnt perfect but he should be good enough at least

#

Also the more I play the game the more I wonder

#

Wtf is the point of the defense class?

runic ether
#

its the jack of all trades

#

minor buffs, minor stun, minor dps

rapid bough
#

supposed to be a support/stun hybrid but the best ones can be used almost entirely off-field so it's kinda awkward

slow raft
runic ether
#

does it all

rapid bough
#

god leveling dolls and weapons from 50->60 costs so many fucking XP mats

glossy latch
runic ether
#

zzz thankfully has made it clear everyone playable so far is an adult

glossy latch
#

Anby is an adult?

#

I thought she was like 15 or 16

runic ether
#

she is probably among the older of the cast

#

soukaku is actually at most 16

rapid bough
runic ether
#

but shes not a little girl

slow raft
#

Btw, how good is astra? Generally i am under the impression that pulling for supports in hoyo games is worth it but i kinda feel like skipping her for evelyn

rapid bough
#

she's cracked

runic ether
#

shes good

#

there is teams where she is very good and others where she is insane in

#

and others where she is a sidegrade tbh

rapid bough
#

very easy to use + promotes fun as hell gameplay + works basically anywhere

runic ether
#

if you have caesar ez skip

rapid bough
#

i have caesar and got her and regret nothing

runic ether
#

yeah same but if support i pull

rapid bough
#

she takes yanagi/miyabi comp to insane levels

glossy latch
#

I thought Anby was basically a child soldier

runic ether
#

depending on how things play out, she was the original of the line of soldiers that obol squad produced

glossy latch
#

Like I know Piper's gimmick is that shes actually like 40 and just looks young, but Anby always struck me as actually being young

runic ether
#

so shes like easily in her late 20s

slow raft
runic ether
#

shes older than nicole m

slow raft
#

Well maybe if i can get together a shitload of pulls

glossy latch
#

Wack

#

Lucy is also like 18 from what I remember

runic ether
#

around 18-20

#

bit younger than nicole

glossy latch
#

Ok yeah idk what it is, but my Harumasa's dash attacks do like a third of other peoples dash attacks

versed pawn
#

Astra miyabi Nicole nyaruhodo

runic ether
#

maybe

versed pawn
#

Got Astra weapon today

runic ether
#

are you on stralight replica?

versed pawn
#

Welp I guess I have to rebuild again icant

runic ether
#

event wengine?

rapid bough
versed pawn
#

Because I overcap atk now

#

I have m1 miyabi

#

M2 got spooked by grace pepehans

runic ether
#

i thought about going for m1

#

but m0 cleaned everything and anything so i just didnt

slow raft
#

I got m0 and got the greedkest ive ever been and pulled for the w engine

rapid bough
#

same guy, based

slow raft
#

Hopefully the last time i feel compelled to pull weapons ever, but likely not

versed pawn
#

Now I probably try Nicole's dps even with Astra in team instead of AP because that 1200 atk buff helps nyaruhodo

rapid bough
#

imo the only reason to go for more (m2 mainly) is if you want to make miyabi smoother as a solo carry

versed pawn
#

M1 actually helps that alot since u get your stacks faster because frost fire is removed faster from enemy m2 just makes u start with 6 stacks and 15% cr

rapid bough
#

doesn't m2 also give you a stack at the end of your basic chain

runic ether
#

m1 is the one that frees up her comps more

versed pawn
#

Not to sure but I know m1 removes frost fire and u can a stack when u apply frost fire usually u can't reapply it while it's on the enemy

#

M1 I'd also 6% def shred per stack

#

Tho not sure if I go ap Nicole

#

Or just crit now

glossy latch
runic ether
#

okay good though idk where you are slacking then

versed pawn
#

But my Astra could run crit % on 4 now since I overcap atk now with her weapon

slow raft
#

Maybe posta screenshot of numbers and skill levels?

#

Also you should really not be awake at this hour

glossy latch
#

Pot meet kettle

#

I am going to bed in a second

versed pawn
#

I'm still at work icant

slow raft
#

You work nightshifts or smth?

versed pawn
#

Ye

#

Always

slow raft
#

Well then its not unusual

#

Ovven and i dont have that excuse

versed pawn
#

I want to be in bed so bad tho I have a cold icant

runic ether
#

the excuse is mastering harumasamasa combos

glossy latch
#

No the excuse I have is depression and a fucked up sleep cycle

#

Anyway Im gonna go sleep now in fact

#

Maybe Ill figure out Harumasa tomorrow

runic ether
slow raft
#

Sadly staying up late is just gonna lead to PEKAC situations

#

Also blobcatnight

glossy latch
#

... que?

slow raft
#

Problem exists between keyboard and computer

glossy latch
#

Oh

slow raft
#

Skill issue in other words

rapid bough
#

evelyn only a week away and i'm realistically only gonna have like 60 pulls banked by the time she drops

#

60 pulls and a dream

#

(obviously i can get quite a few more while her banner is running, realistically i'm pretty confident i can at least get to pity... but that means i am at 50/50's mercy)

runic ether
#

godspeed

rapid bough
#

apparently gfl2 KR dataminers did their thing again and cracked future gacha data

#

2/27 (Centa, Ullrid)

3/20 (Klukai Machiatto)

4/10 (mechty Daiyan)

centaureissi after dushevnaya, then klukai, then mechty

#

we'll see how true this ends up being, iirc the leaks last time had makiatto and daiyan right but then had centaureissi next and it ended up being dushevnaya

#

klukai in 1.5 months would be wild and much earlier than expected

timber sigil
#

Oh fuck Klukai this early?

simple wind
#

Oh new battle cats update is out for JP that has the valkyrie and Bahamut talents

valk getting well designed talents like cost down, stat ups, berserk

Bahamut getting the new blast attack talent effectively DOUBLING it’s already insane damage output

timber sigil
#

70 of the standard pulls got me 1 Mosin and 1 Qiongjiu so pretty happy about that

timber sigil
#

2 more gold stage runs per day yay

idle grove
#

is Dushev today

timber sigil
#

yeah

idle grove
#

pog

idle grove
#

why does the preview of dushev focus on her grippers first

idle grove
#

actually I know the answer I've seen all of the dorm poses

#

ok pog

glossy latch
timber sigil
#

ayy dushev is mine

timber sigil
idle grove
#

she do

#

although I don't have a weapon for her lmfao

old galleon
#

blessed

#

they did wordplay lol

rapid bough
#

astra has waifu + meta going for her, evelyn i'd only be pulling for turbo-waifu (which is a fair reason)

slow raft
idle grove
#

oh yes

#

v

#

ok sure print screen isn't working

#

gfl vampire survivors let's go

old galleon
#

this was easy enough

#

the ryza comp i failed to beat reve with worked just fine here

old galleon
#

also easy

old galleon
#

taking opinions

rapid bough
#

with klukai possibly 1.5 months away, i might not pull for dushevnaya...

#

she's not that good, while klukai is both OP and very dupe hungry

old galleon
#

aight it's been 5 mins, going with no

#

really the whole thing is silly

#

aldo shouldn't be the one making the final call on this

idle grove
#

sick

timber sigil
#

I welcome more Ullrid content

#

easily my favourite GFL2 original character

#

NOT THE PIG BaeCry2

old galleon
#

after trying to break this fight with some actually fun stuff and failing, i just said fuck it and went with the cheese strat

slow raft
#

I imagine if shes viable at all its within a shotgun team but

#

slowly filling otu the nikkepedia

long tree
#

NINTENDO! GIVE ME DRAGALIA LOST REDIVE AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!

honest pawn
#

no

long tree
dull bridge
#

rmb when everyone was like

#

silver wolf is a must have for the rest of the game

#

or whatevrr

versed pawn
#

didt get dush

#

but got 2 qj

runic ether
torn shadow
#

I'd rather get E1 on Boothill than pull for Silver Wolf

dull bridge
#

i want e2? sw

#

whcihever one reduces effevt res by a million

#

i should play hsr again

#

is there a lot of nee ahit

#

nee shit

#

who should i build or what

#

like a team or smt

#

i think the teams i had was acheron hyper

#

and some fup team

#

what the fuck

#

who the hell is this

#

she looks cool as shit

#

i want her

#

or him?

#

or them?

#

or it?

runic ether
#

you see her massive tits and ask her gender this is totally fair to do but lol

dull bridge
#

well tbf

#

it was more the things around her

#

i didnt know if it was like an it

runic ether
#

garmentmaker

dull bridge
#

with it being multiple things

#

oh cool

#

wait rememberance

runic ether
#

the voice of garmentmaker was feminine

#

yes

#

new path

dull bridge
#

WAIT WHAT

#

holyyyy

runic ether
#

garmentmaker is a summon she calls on with her skill

dull bridge
#

whats its thing

runic ether
#

and her skill after its summoned either resummons

dull bridge
#

i thought rememberence was all like freze or something

runic ether
#

or heals and advances the action of it

dull bridge
#

sick

#

ill pull her

runic ether
#

rememberance is characterized by summons

dull bridge
#

she looks cool enough

runic ether
#

before you pull

#

do you have sunday

dull bridge
#

i prob should pull robin cause shes insane but like

#

oh is sunday required

#

nvm

runic ether
#

robin works too

#

no

#

he isnt required

dull bridge
#

robin pull time

runic ether
#

but aglaea will heavily appreciate having sunday

dull bridge
#

yeah thats fine

#

ill pull robin

runic ether
#

it'd be like acheron without jiaoqiu or firefly without ruan mei basically

dull bridge
#

shes just so good

#

well

#

i dont have juaoqiu

#

i really wajt him

#

did i miss his rerun again

#

right thats what I was doing

#

saving for jiaoqiu

long tree
#

Aglaea getting hated for preferring to have Sunday

Meanwhile every break effect character when they're deprived Ruan mei

runic ether
#

no he hasnt rerun yet

dull bridge
#

ok

#

ill keep saving

runic ether
#

some more testing is required but

#

she is kind of fucked

dull bridge
#

aww is acheron not insane anymore

runic ether
#

she is

dull bridge
#

and that fox girl

long tree
#

It's hsr if the new DPS isn't best in the game anymore they go in the bin of no return

runic ether
#

but aglaea may be stronger because of how the summons work

dull bridge
#

the single target nuke

#

or whatever

runic ether
#

since garmentmaker takes very unique advantage of things

dull bridge
#

whos like a fox but also the other thing

runic ether
#

with garmentmaker during aglaea's ult

dull bridge
#

the enemies of fox

runic ether
#

feixiao

#

but yeah garmentmaker and aglaea both individually trigger robin

#

they both individually trigger some other effects

#

even though aglaea does her normal

#

if garmentmaker does her own thing at the same time during ult, she benefits from the buff(s)

#

even if its a single target effect

#

doubling up on this, is as you can probably expect, kind of cracked

#

though a big thing holding her back is her energy and speed needs

#

since i have hyperspeed sunday, im incentivized to build hyperspeed aglaea

#

which is harder without her sig or her e1

dull bridge
#

ahhh

#

this is less of like raw numbers are higher

runic ether
#

yeah no

dull bridge
#

but more like not conceptual

runic ether
#

boothill still has the highest raw single target numbers off a single strike

dull bridge
#

but like

runic ether
#

and the herta has the highest aoe

dull bridge
#

diffirent way to do shit

runic ether
#

but aglaea has good numbers but often times doubled up

dull bridge
#

wait is there a new trailblaze mission?

runic ether
#

in a similar way to how feixiao will outdamage boothill in single target scenarios because she can strike twice then thrice then again and do it quicker

runic ether
patent swift
#

What would a good aglaea team even be

runic ether
#

optimal is sunday/robin/huohuo

#

robin can be rememberance mc

patent swift
#

No robin bc I have her on my FUA team with hmarch & feixiao

#

Oh ok

#

Genuine question what does RMC even do

runic ether
#

mem

patent swift
#

What does mem do

#

Like I've finished 3.0 and I've used rmc but I have no clue what they actually do

dull bridge
#

no way

#

i never thought they would do this

slow raft
#

????

dull bridge
#

sorry my images arent loadi ngl

slow raft
#

oh

dull bridge
#

the new stuff

#

thiss

#

is insane to me

slow raft
#

i thought you didnt think theyd ever go to a new planet lmao

dull bridge
#

nah KEKW

#

so if im getting this correct

#

the firs tthing

#

allows me to put 4 stats in crit

#

to get max value crit artis?

#

and second one basically lets me choose 2/4 secondary stats for relics

#

like the other thing

#

the resin

#

can both be used at same time

#

when creating artifact?

glossy latch
slow raft
#

Gonna pull for anyways

#

And in the process of getting pulls ill get the new tb so not all is lost

runic ether
#

its

#

weird

#

aglaea's f2p team is quite potent

#

oh lol

#

i meant to reply to u guy

slow raft
#

I figured

#

I wont be able to use my firefly team along side this anyways since id need rb foe it so i guess gallagher is fair

runic ether
#

gallager specifically is on quid pro quo

#

tingyun speed tuning will have to be quite extreme

#

maybe eagle set

#

and rmc is fine with a more baseline fast kit

#

but quid pro quo is important

#

aglaea's energy needs are kind of crazy at e0

dull bridge
#

i love this new sunday attire it looks so comfy and cool

runic ether
#

unless you are fine having some downtime

slow raft
#

Alternatively i can jjst not use her till i eventually pull for some of the other characters

runic ether
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true

slow raft
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Becazse i feel like id rather off myself before i actually try speedtuning

runic ether
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though i feel like that'd be somewhat a waste

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a team of aglaea/tingyun/rmc/gallagher can *possibly speed run

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but its less viable for farming

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should be more than fine for general gameplay

slow raft
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I mean ive done a large part of the game with blade, i think im fine with not being optimal

runic ether
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yeah aglaea's clunkyness only really comes up in moc and apoc shadow

slow raft
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Even firefly was already blowing my mind with how fast you can win battles

runic ether
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clunky at e0 without her best team

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oh ig she can be clunky in pure fiction too

versed pawn
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Helps rerolling good gear pieces too but not guaranteed to be a upgrade

dull bridge
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ohhh

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i see

versed pawn
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Keep them for good 4 starters

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With at least 3 good stats

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Preferably all 4 good

digital marlin
runic ether
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e1 solves her energy for the most part

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can let you get away with a support that doesnt grant energy (like if you have no sunday or can't use tingyun)

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or let you get away with a sustain that grants no energy (like if you dont have huohuo or quid pro quo gallager)

digital marlin
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going to hope for e1 after i g4et her LC

runic ether
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hm

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lc may be of less importance

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depends on your roster

digital marlin
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i do no have Huohou or Sunday

runic ether
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do you have an action advancer?

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like sparkle or bronya?

digital marlin
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Yes

runic ether
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do you have a fully built quid pro quo gallagher?

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cus the reason for aglaea lc is mostly for her hyperspeed builds and her better speed tuning options with say

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160 speed bronya

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161 speed aglaea

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but her energy needs will still be pretty high

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so it puts an emphasis on her e1 being more comfortable

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to be clear

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2 trains of thought

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give up on her speed, let her ult and garmentmaker carry it and max out damage during her ult

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or focus on her having insane speeds to abuse her time during her ult

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doable at e0 and s0

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quite hard to get right

digital marlin
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SPEED

idle grove
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good lord

old galleon
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only 16k? rookie numbers

rapid bough
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haters will say it's photoshopped

old galleon
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this also describes 99% of drake's other "acts of villainy"

rapid bough
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(it's also not photoshopped, this is real dialogue from SKK in her bond story i think)

wispy goblet
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okay
gotta get my three new meta-ish nikkes up in skills....

old galleon
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should be starting soon

astral drift
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append skill 4/5??? PauseChamp

old galleon
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maybe if you give lady yu chocolate to make her happy, they'll give us early appends

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stream's over

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tldr the pope kills with smiles and lilim harlot got teased

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pretty much it

astral drift
summer hornet
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Lmao

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Do we have a date for Ordeal Call?

old galleon
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should be april but i don't remember if it was shown in that roadmap or not

rapid bough
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gfl2 update allows farming hard mode stages before finishing the story too GWjojoGachiGASM

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this gfl2 patch is an absolute banger

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so many QoL changes

old galleon
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actually unironically based

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give me the qol change that makes it less annoying to run on my device and i'll get back into it more

rapid bough
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think that one might just need a new device lol

old galleon
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tbf i managed to get nikke working on it decently enough, load in time aside

rapid bough
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nikke's issues are all related to their goddamn anticheat

old galleon
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and that has more moving parts

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the anticheat that doesn't even dissuade people from using macros bc their alice gameplay is just that bad?

rapid bough
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fun fact actually, they once made the anticheat too sensitive to that and it started nuking people's accounts just for spam-shotting on RLs and SRs in general, no macros

old galleon
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quality

rapid bough
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anyway anticheat being a blight upon whatever game it's added to, what else is new

wispy goblet
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putting together solo mode teams

old galleon
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speaking of, this one's a pain in the ass

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the minions feel like they have hit based hp

rapid bough
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they do

old galleon
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so gotta account for that