after 3,000 years special interception finally deigned to give me a pilgrim defender piece
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old galleon
rapid bough
was it boots
rapid bough
true, i guess cindy found the one exception
old galleon
and i've gone like a couple weeks or so without a piece for her
so i'll take what i can get
rapid bough
though the real use is just getting a piece of OL gear
old galleon
i assume i can just start leveling it
rapid bough
assuming you won't need the credits for something else soon
old galleon
since i know she'll be a mainstay on my comps for a while yet
rapid bough
leveling t9m/OL gear costs a shitton of credits
old galleon
i still need a bajillion core dust to break the 140 mini wall
rapid bough
prolly worth it to sink the cost then since OL gear can give quite a lot of extra combat power for pushing campaign
credits are temporary, outpost levels are forever
rapid bough
sounds meh but not awful
old galleon
element damage is okay i guess
old galleon
was hoping one of them would give me some max ammo or atk but it's fine
pretty low on gear exp mats apparently
rapid bough
welcome to the club
i never thought i'd run out but turns out getting to level 5 OL uses a shitton of them
to be clear though, gear can be used to level up gear if you haven't already found that out
the mats that give XP aren't the only usable things for leveling gear
in fact most of my gear is leveled by eating up other gear at this point lol
rapid bough
since i acquire gear faster than i do XP modules or whatever they're called
rapid bough
realized that withering gardens blitz came out before i finished getting to the 11/11 intensity rewards on exploration
so went back and did 11/11 exploration and god i do not miss this
also idk if i've mentioned this before but nineveh is such a lame boss fight, especially the bullet hell immunity part 2/3 of the way through. may actually be the worst boss phase i've ever played through and i've played through a lot of bosses over my many years of playing MMOs
versed pawn
Everytime indo blitz I hope I get enough dmg to just oneshot her before getting to bullet hell
rapid bough
yeah i can occasionally do that if i get good resoniums
but every time i can't i wanna commit sudoku
wispy goblet
me when I cash in my SSR molds
old galleon
congrats
rapid bough
torn harbor
https://youtu.be/hF_hPr7NzLA?si=BTQruM5N-DkvCNt4 forgot to post this here
@idle grove
rapid bough
damn that really is peak
really dropped a whole backstory in a 3 minute MV with kickass animation/art
slow raft
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slow raft
Bit the bullet
Its not like im gonna get anymore tickets and spending gems at this point is probably just coping
old galleon
hopefully winter and new year banners treat you better
slow raft
They wont
And honestly, id rather the limited luck i have goes to something more unforgiving
Like fgo
rapid bough
They wont
on the bright side, unless you're pulling for aesthetic, at least half of the winter units probably aren't worth pulling beyond collector purposes
we don't know how good the 2 new ones will be, but of the 4 old ones that will rerun, only winter ludmilla is good. the other 3 are a mix of niche (PvP) or bad
the new year's pilgrim(s)... we'll just have to wait and see, but the rerun will almost certainly be worth pulling on
however i know you like grave's design and it's not like she's bad, so may the abs bless you 
glossy latch
Lmao
Failed the 50/50 ... got Soldier 11 instead
But it was early enough that I can maybe get Lighter anyway
runic ether
thats not a bad loss
rapid bough
i got S11 back when i lost my burnice 50/50
still haven't used her at all and i think she's level 10 lol
but assuming you can rack up 90 more pulls at least you're guaranteed lighter
(and realistically you'll get him before then, isn't hoyo hard pity actually rare to hit?)
glossy latch
Ive got 53 until hard pity
Which unfortunately means farming a fair bit
Also I guess I have C6 Ben
Which ... not sure that matters lmao
astral drift
Zenobia interlude 
runic ether
ben is good
long tree
Zenobia interlude <:GladChamp:955407736978415656>
Buff was dogshit but I’ll take more story for her any day
versed pawn
glossy latch
Ok doing some quick maths Im certain I can get Lighter but its gonna take some grinding
rapid bough
<:yangyanguwaaaaa:1287509254386745375>
holy shit lol
versed pawn
i got to e4
rapid bough
glossy latch
Man I dont like grinding for Polychromes
rapid bough
if you're in a situation where you need to grind for them it means you're catching up on a bunch of content all at once which usually sucks
polychrome income is def designed to be spread out over time and content
if i was in a situation where i had to grind polys by doing the arpeggio fault event all at once i'd fear for my sanity
glossy latch
Yeah guess which event I didnt do 
rapid bough
i'm so sorry
glossy latch
I mean I have time, the banner just came out, but I dont like risking time
glossy latch
Good news is Im at something like 53 rolls left til hard pity
rapid bough
shiyu reset in a few days too for 700 polys if you can S rank them all
monthly reset imminent as well for 5 pulls
runic ether
arpeggio fault is super easy
grab nicole and nekomata supports in there and they full clear any difficulty
rapid bough
it's not a matter of difficulty
it's just how tedious it is
that event is like 15 stages too long
slow raft
^
runic ether
oh for sure
it was a lot longer than it needed to be
its there for the ppl who loved the prophecy event mission
rapid bough
which i also still have not done
runic ether
which i also still have not done <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
get ready for like 2-3 hours
rapid bough
yeah i know lol
runic ether
the story itself is actually... kinda cute lol
rapid bough
the game gives you a warning before you start it and i saw that and was like "mmmmmmmmmmm nah"
runic ether
it may also be hinting at the full events of zzz
because of course
it is a prophecy after all
im sure we'll look back on it in a few years and go
"ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
rapid bough
they'll have to change the warning before you start it from "this may take a while" to "SPOILER WARNING THIS IS JUST THE STORY OF ZZZ"
glossy latch
Oh nvm Im already down to 48
rapid bough
the voices are saying to pull lighter but i must resist
miyabi calls to me
and possibly ellen, idk if her rerun is confirmed yet
runic ether
it isnt
rapid bough
i sorta hope it doesn't end up being true because the temptation to pull for her will be torture with miyabi on the horizon
runic ether
in any case the voices are telling me to throw a 10 pull in and see what happens
rapid bough
come to think of it, ellen is the only limited banner character i don't have
joined too late to get her (zhu yuan was my first banner)
soon she will be joined by lighter, but that'll be because i specifically do not pull for lighter
not out of dislike for lighter either, just more important stuff i need to save for
i'll almost certainly snag lighter if/when he reruns in the future, assuming there's nothing i need to save for in the immediate future then too
i think the only teased characters so far that i currently have truly no interest in are whoever the upcoming idols end up being
versed pawn
based on my calculations i needed arround 250 pulls for e4 yanagi
rapid bough
the state of your currency in the top right looks accurate after a 250 pull frenzy
glossy latch
Nvm Shiyu defense is actually a bit beyond me in general rn
I need to upgrade my Yanagi tbh
rapid bough
what agents do you have available to use in shiyu nowadays
also you don't need to S everything, that's just max rewards. just clearing even at lower ranks is still worthwhile
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glossy latch
Mostly 4*s and Jane Doe
The trouble is, the gap between my Jane Doe team and the second best team is massive
rapid bough
what's your jane doe team vs second best team
glossy latch
Anton just kinda doesnt cut it
slow raft
isnt shiyu defense just a one time thing? there wasnt a time limit last i checked so i havent done it yet
glossy latch
Jane Doe and Seth and Anton/Rina/Anby
rapid bough
isnt shiyu defense just a one time thing? there wasnt a time limit last i checke...
critical node resets every 2 weeks
slow raft
yeah i dont think i have that
rapid bough
gotta do the other nodes to unlock it
you're missin out on like 700 polys every 2 weeks you fool!
slow raft
doubtful i would even be able to them
rapid bough
also clearing the permanent nodes gives a shitton of polys
like 300 per S rank i think
slow raft
i have one team thats not even really built so
rapid bough
like i said, you only need to S rank for max rewards. clearing is still worthwhile even if you don't get max rank
especially in your case since you need to unlock the resetting part of shiyu lol
slow raft
no i mean
last i checked i couldnt do the base thing
like the 10 levels without time limit
rapid bough
why not? just don't have a second team?
slow raft
i have one team thats not even really built so
.
rapid bough
simply play perfect and chip away with an underleveled team for 30 mins
slow raft
i should probably start to actually build characters and maybe w engines and the equipment
thwat would help with clearing content maybe
slow raft
doing dailies is a chore so ive been neglecting it yea
slow raft
dailies only take like 5 mins max, same as basically every other gacha
they take like 10 for me and i have to be active for that time
rapid bough
i diagnose you with skill issue
glossy latch
Although my Rina does suck, so maybe thats where I should focus
rapid bough
not sure what the RoI is with investing in supports beyond their core passive and EX is tbh
esp not rina since i don't have her
how's your anby investment? my recent investments into qingyi have taught me that nvesting in your stunner as much as your DPS can actually make your life so much easier
glossy latch
Anton needs shocks fwiw
rapid bough
idk about "need" so much as "benefits from" in the same way all characters benefit from triggering anomalies
but anby will get you more shock buildup than rina
glossy latch
Its moreso that much of his damage comes from triggering shocks rapidly
rapid bough
does it? he's not an anomaly character
glossy latch
Ye
rapid bough
i assumed he worked similar to S11/zhu yuan who trigger their anomalies once in a burst rotation and that's enough
glossy latch
His core skill is that he can trigger shock with way lower cooldown
Like the on hit damage from shock
No wait
It just does bonus damage
But it scales off of the shocks damage
47 left, gonna grind more another day I think
Oh Arpeggio fault gives almost 10 pulls on its own huh
versed pawn
still have to enter that secret room at the last stage
runic ether
grinding out rina's core passive and skill would help
maybe her chain attack and dodge
glossy latch
I think she mostly needs decent discs rn
rapid bough
supports are like the last agents i'd worry about discs for, just get your set bonuses and come back later
DPS/stunners benefit a lot more from discs than supports
glossy latch
Again, Anton does kinda scale off of her shock value
So its damage up for him as well
runic ether
getting a solid pen% should be all thats really needed
rapid bough
i almost guarantee anby is generating more shock than rina
runic ether
maybe anom prof anom mastery
but
yea
i'd actually focus more on anby here besides making sure rina hits her benchmarks
glossy latch
Ill see
Billy might be easier to build but unfortunately physical overlap is not ideal™️
runic ether
well you do have 11 now
rapid bough
alternatively you could just throw everything at improving your yanagi
runic ether
i have cleared p much all content with 11
rapid bough
i'd still prolly invest in yanagi over S11
electric vulnerable content is more common rn than fire, or at least fire vulnerable also usually is physical vulnerable at the same time for his jane lol
then again the release of lighter might change that
also yanagi is just better than S11 but that's neither here nor there
rapid bough
yanagi doesn't have any AP breakpoints like jane or burnice right? any reason you want 400 specifically?
rapid bough
understandable
versed pawn
and i dont have anything esle to farm right now
probably have to revisit jane at one point
rapid bough
she wants basically all the same things jane does except substitute physical damage for electric
one other annoying thing i've noticed with nagi though is that she doesn't have an obvious bangboo to use, unlike cui and moccus for jane (depending on whether you run her with seth or burnice+caesar)
glossy latch
I mean Id run her in mono-electric
rapid bough
well, i say that, but clearly she wants electro/plugboo w/ seth
glossy latch
So Itd be the S rank electric bangboo
rapid bough
yeah, so i guess my issue is just that i never rolled for plugboo and never leveled electroboo lol
so my nagi comp with seth is still effectively bangboo-less
honest pawn
Hes streaming the fucking unity launcher <:icant:1310294700384714813>
THAT'S MY DEV
versed pawn
So Itd be the S rank electric bangboo
if u have rina Pen% does a bit more dmg than electric dmg but woundt pay too much off attention to that
glossy latch
Ill see, I think Ive got some disc materials already
glossy latch
Wait what W-engine do I use on Yanagi
rapid bough
if you don't have her sig or the BP anomaly one, then weeping gemini or rainforest gourmet
gemini > gourmet iirc
runic ether
gemini generally better at higher refines though its p close
rapid bough
oh grace's sig also works
rapid bough
the anomaly sigs have been hard to resist pulling, feel like the free anomaly options are much worse than for basically every other class
runic ether
defense is struggling
rapid bough
oh yeah lol
isn't caesar's best wengine (besides sig) to run a stun engine with impact% lol
rapid bough
cursed
runic ether
i wonder if this will remain the case over time
the upcoming genshin 5.3 patch, one of the character's bis will remain the totally f2p thrilling tales catalyst
and its not even close
her own sig is blown up entirely by it
unless you are in whale territory
even then for her buff capabilities, ttds is better
in a similar light, honkai star rail has a massive problem with f2p weapons
glossy latch
Well weeping Gemini is on Jane doe
runic ether
your best options are sometimes p far below
glossy latch
So ... Rainforest I guess?
runic ether
Well weeping Gemini is on Jane doe
u can craft a 2nd gemini
but yea
rainforest also works
glossy latch
Can I?
glossy latch
Huh, neat
rapid bough
i'd flip them personally
gourmet's AP is better on jane than on nagi
since you want to hit jane's AP breakpoint for 100% assault crit
runic ether
sometimes
i think
yeah
lol
i was gonna say
if you can hit jane's ap breakpoint with gemini, gg go for it
if you cant, rainforest clears
rapid bough
in my experience it's pretty hard to hit that breakpoint without an AP wengine
you have to get some disc god rolls
runic ether
i believe in the 4 liner 5 rolls into ap
glossy latch
I mean, Im using Seth, so thats how I get the breakpoint
rapid bough
that works too ig but it makes me uncomfortable going into any fight without that breakpoint guaranteed
if it relies on a buff and that buff falls off and your assault doesn't crit because of it that's a big damage L
runic ether
tower 1 shots your seth wyd
yeah its better to build for having it baseline
and then seth getting some overkill value
but if u dont plan on going infinite in the tower its fine
rapid bough
jane still gets big value out of extra AP beyond her assault breakpoint
since she has another in the 400s for her passion state's ATK buff
- obviously more AP is more better for big assault damage anyway
glossy latch
Mmh
Well, guess Ill give Yanagi a W engine and start gearing up her discs
Also not sure why people play the mono electric team with her, Rina and Anby
rapid bough
anby stun + rina buff sets up bigger disorders i guess
runic ether
thats greedy
rapid bough
it is, but so is playing any stunner with field hog anomaly chars tbh
runic ether
yeah fair
rapid bough
wonder when we'll get a good off-field stunner, they seem to be balanced around needing lots of field time atm
glossy latch
Either way, I think I can guarantee Lighter without Shiyu, so building Yanagi should at least help get there faster
rapid bough
i definitely think building yanagi will benefit you more than any other character rn
you want at least 2 main DPS, you already have jane and yanagi is your best option for a second team
glossy latch
Yeah
rapid bough
- yanagi is fun and cool so what's not to love
old galleon
zenobia got a strengthening and i don't think len mentioned it rip
slow raft
Zenobia interlude <:GladChamp:955407736978415656>
.
old galleon
: ^)
looks like a buff of all time, anyway
not sure what context you'd be using her in where she's in danger of triggering her guts but i guess it's nice if it ever happens
slow raft
zenobia best anchor 
old galleon
cu alter, herc, and umu would like a word
the upgrade at least makes her passable in that respect, i guess
torn harbor
Magia exedra had a stream https://www.youtube.com/live/gw6oOlm2mtw?si=2r2MPxQrrpNDiyFK
Get to see combat (it's basically hsr with minor differences :x)
Also bring backs the 6 types from Magia record
(Light, dark, forest, fire, water, void)
Which is funnily enough a remnant of when light and dark was strong against each other, forest was strong against water, water vs fire, fire vs forest and void not being strong or weak to something
But this time that wheel doesn't exist and it's just hsr weaknesses
idle grove
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code for gfl2 when the game releases
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rapid bough
only a week away
copper steppe
soon tm
rapid bough
idk if my free time will be able to handle another gacha but i at least want to give it a shot
glossy latch
Ok, I think I got some decent discs for Yanagi, now I just need materials
Also does she need Anomaly Mastery at all?
idle grove
also gfl2 doing huge things for character design
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right was the gfl1 version of the same character
slow raft
replies should be full of
"the war."
im runnign out of elysion nikkes that i want to pull, what are the good ones gameplay wise? @rapid bough
glossy latch
Oh wait, HIA has one for disc mats
old galleon
everything i see about elysion bashes it compared to the other manufacturers for being comparatively bad
old galleon
dkw, marciana, both privaty forms
are what i use in tower, with the fifth either being helm or a flex
slow raft
and marciana
runic ether
How do you even farm upgrade mats for discs?
i farm the discs and then convert them to mats the ones i dont need
glossy latch
Ok I think Ive got a decent enough set for Yanagi for now
Just need to put some points in the skills and then I can try Shiyu
... unless
Oh yeah way better
runic ether
glossy latch
Even accidentally went with her into the electric resist half, and she still cleared almost fast enough for S-rank
slow raft
Love me some sportsball
Wirh getting this skin i also finished the event
And i farmed story chapters to buy my favourite sad little german boy some new clothes
glossy latch
Wait
... holy shit I just realised why she is so broken
You generate ult so quickly
glossy latch
I mean in her case its also that disorder is a fat bonus
And you have it on demand
Ok I cant S-rank Shiyu 5 yet, but A-rank is comfortably done
Not bad for now
rapid bough
im runnign out of elysion nikkes that i want to pull, what are the good ones gam...
d: killer wife
phantom
both privatys (maid and base)
helm
marciana
those are the main ones used for gameplay purposes. if you have all of them, you can basically start taking your pick of ones you just like the look of. i'd throw diesel in there too on a wishlist because she has a favorite item you may want to unlock ever
elysion has a weak roster relative to the other manufacturers
slow raft
d: killer wife
phantom
both privatys (maid and base)
helm
marciana
those are th...
Yeah j have all of tjem with the exception of maid privaty
rapid bough
for content where you don't need marciana's healing, mast is an acceptable enough damage buffer alternative
slow raft
Wait no i have mast, helm is on the wishlist
I think
Ig its time to go by least unwanted after that
Thanks for the tips tho 
rapid bough
i think my elysion wishlist is just set up as "nikkes i want dupes of" and "nikkes i don't have unlocked yet but that i am never going to use" lol
diesel and marciana for dupes, and then whatever straggler nikkes i still need to unlock like eunhwa (who sucks but i must collect)
d:kw was on the dupe list for a while but i MLB'd her sometime during anni and now proudly use her burst animation in my lobby because it's peak 
old galleon
my wishlist setup is like dkw/2x privaty/helm/marciana lol
i already have all fo them so it's dupe for wall right now anyway
glossy latch
... wait shit what W engine do I even use on S11
runic ether
yep
versed pawn
How do you even farm upgrade mats for discs?
Just farm disc's u get upgrade mats while doing so
I haven't been sub 600 purple mats in forever
If disc roll bad I trash it and it gives u some of the investment back
rapid bough
i already have all fo them so it's dupe for wall right now anyway
yeah definite emphasis on dupe chasing pre-160 wall
old galleon
oh right i did grab vesti at some point, i think through molds?
rapid bough
can't wait to get no gems from any of these
update: got 27 gems from one of them
old galleon
dupes of her over any of those others?
rapid bough
nah
rapid bough
starlight replica
i assume you mean starlight engine
replica is billy's wengine
which would not work well on S11 lol
runic ether
oh yeah just the engine lol
versed pawn
Was that moc 12
runic ether
indeed
versed pawn
And do you have Jing eidolons
versed pawn
Nice job
runic ether
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZZZ_Official/comments/1h1ibza/lighterburnicelucy_shiyu_7_first_half_in_100/
glossy latch
Wait is Lighter doing big damage there?
glossy latch
Still surprised to see him do good damage
rapid bough
every time i watch these gameplay videos i think to myself "man, must be nice to be this good at the game"
glossy latch
Ok down to 43 rolls left for hard pity
Hopefully I dont have to actually get to hard pity
rapid bough
soft pity starts at like 20 pulls before hard pity or something? idk exactly but i do know it's a significant boost per pull so it's pretty rare to hit hard pity
rapid bough
were you creeping up to hard pity a pull at a time or did you 10-pull to get there
glossy latch
I even got the former once
wispy goblet
me when
me when I get a rehab mission to do three pulls
wispy goblet
not yet
rapid bough
damn
blanc becomes one of the best supports in the game when paired with either of them
until then she's really awkward to use (outside of PvP) because of having a really long burst CD
so wishlist both rouge + noir if you haven't already
side note since i breezed past this when you first started, have you added 30 people to your friends list to send/receive social points with?
wispy goblet
absolutely not
I should
But it feels kinda weird
rapid bough
lol
it's not weird because everyone's in it together
social points give free pulls, everyone wants free pulls
send friend requests and i guarantee people will accept and send points to you
you're missing out on up to 3 free (lower rate) pulls per day by not maximizing your social points
i don't know a single person on my friends list but i value all of them because i managed to find an active group of 30 people that log on to give me points every day
haven't had to prune any of them from my list for not logging on in over 2 months i think
the game will suggest people to friend, just send requests and reap the benefits
most people will accept because receiving a request from someone means they're active and will send points
wispy goblet
until then she's really awkward to use (outside of PvP) because of having a real...
is she good in PvP in a general goodstuff comp?
rapid bough
she's best in specific comps built around making sure one specific character can do as much damage as possible
her burst says "this unit cannot die for 10 sec" which can be nutty
whether she's good generically will kinda depends on who you can surround her with
because she herself is there for her burst only, so you need to have a composition that ensures you burst quickly (basically, lots of rocket launchers)
rapid bough
commander is based
his interactions with blanc+noir are easily some of the horniest in the game (including at least one all-but-explicit threesome)
old galleon
meanwhile grave's in group chat fawning over a lock of cindy's hair
just normal grave things
rapid bough
yeah cindy and grave are just the "good heavens would you look at the time" meme where everything on cindy's clock is "look in the mirror" and everything on grave's clock is "fawn over cindy"
honest pawn
60sq in, have not gotten muramasa
I'm tossing away my chances at an oberon
forget meta viability, I'm grinding out everything
I want shirou
old galleon
140 mini wall is finally broken, so now i get to push until whenever i hit 160
versed pawn
@runic ether it's funny when streamer guy with multiple e2 barely clears moc11 and u do it comparable with a budget team 
old galleon
did you finally beat it?
honest pawn
no, just started
I skipped a couple cutscenes but I'm going to sit through the entire rest of it
I made a premise to Regi
old galleon
it's a long read, be warned
also even the early fights aren't a joke, best be prepared
old galleon
finally doing some of these damn recollection quests
duke of waste heat was as easy as i remembered him being, tho this time cinderelly exists so she kinda trivializes the entire thing
next one is 24-4 first morgan fight, which looks like i 3 turned with a stupid as fuck comp last year
now i could replicate this
or
i could use a different attacker
koyan didn't exist when i ran this, so buster is available to me now
i can even 2x koyan here if i really want to
(i can't 2x castoria bc this is one of many fights in lb6 where you can't bring your own castoria)
old galleon
yeah this was completely fucking free
this was the original version of the comp, took a run to do an optimization and start with koyan to swap her out into leo
with leo having such dogshit hp knight's dignity probably wasn't necessary, may be able to get away with putting ox king on him instead
but i wanted insurance
the idea of the comp is very simple: control who she kills and let elly go to town
leo taunt turn 1, and koyan with poster girl should die turn 2 more often than not
(use outrage if you don't have poster girl)
the debuffs morgan throws at you are completely pointless since elly np removes them
for comparison, my original run used hokusaber as the attacker and since you can't have 2x castoria i had to do some weird shit like bring martha to clear debuffs
copper steppe
oh yeah is the recolection quest the big fluffy ball of death
if so fuck me im using my command spells
rapid bough
figures that the minute i go over cp rec it becomes a breeze
yeah that tracks, the stat penalties for being in a deficit build up fast. even a slight deficit can be like a 20-30% stat hit
slow raft
rapid bough
do not underestimate the chuuni
slow raft
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rapid bough
got a THIRD lala on my 10-pull today lol
absolutely nothing from today's 10-pull
might have to make some tough decisions on pulling for this collab versus saving for UR event coming soon
down to 256 cubes
haven't redeemed my weekly missions yet though so that's 12 extra cubes i know i'm sitting on, so really 268
regardless, getting uncomfortably low considering you ideally want to enter a UR event with 400
then again, i guess we're getting a new cruise pass in december which i will buy, and i believe those give 50 cubes between the free and paid tracks
so that'll be a nice infusion of cubes
rapid bough
the upper floors of the tower become damage sponges and can also one-shot you pretty easily
very unforgiving of mistakes unless you have caesar
glossy latch
Yeah but I just want the polychromes
glossy latch
And frustratingly he has an attack that punishes that weird gap in Janes i-frames
glossy latch
Down to 39 rolls to hard pity
... unfortunately I think the battle tower might not be the way to go until I get some upgrades
rapid bough
iirc after a certain point before the end it stops rewarding polys anyway
wanna say floor 15 is the last one that gives polys
rapid bough
i could be wrong on the exact floor, best to check for yourself, but it definitely stops rewarding polys at some point
glossy latch
Down to 37 rolls I think
Thankfully theres enough events that it shouldnt take too long
Especially with the extra 5 in two days
... ah fuck I have to still do the star rail events too
long tree
Star rail event sucked (music one) but at least it was short
summer hornet
The songs were neat
glossy latch
Short is good
old galleon
oh yeah is the recolection quest the big fluffy ball of death
no
the recollection quests are woodwose, morgan, and oberon
old galleon
do not underestimate the chuuni
first line is a direct reference to fate, chuuni shit afterward aside
old galleon
so that'll be a nice infusion of cubes
even so you may want to consider abandoning the collab banner; the ur banner next month will certainly be more valuable
and you have no particular attachment to tlr
slow raft
Twitter
old galleon
playing a jalter interlude and it reminds me (oc2) ||of how much data lost is gonna hurt||
old galleon
||this interlude really hammered home the foreshadowing huh||
anyway, found it funny that jalter was able to 2 turn a neutral enemy with > 1m hp, and that was with a suboptimal turn 1
double buster would have done the job in one turn
(or np5 i guess, but we can't have nice things)
copper steppe
good ol buster strat
old galleon
i think jalter has problems in the current state of the game and her eventual strengthening felt like they were just trying to slap on a battery on her best skill and calling it a day
but she still does her job
copper steppe
its really funny how the older servants still do their job
when technically should be the opposite
old galleon
i mean, say what you want about some of the decisions the devs make, but one thing they do right is making the older servants, by and large, still playable and not feeling like complete shit despite metagame shifts
...and then there's jekyll
copper steppe
a tragedy without words
old galleon
not sure any amount of strengthening quests can fix him without a large scale overhaul
at least they have a blueprint for his archetype with ptolemaios
now just use it
copper steppe
i guess you can call melusine also alike?
old galleon
ye melu is also similar
difference is, ptolemaios is just regular broken
melu is advanced broken
copper steppe
trueee lol
old galleon
but yeah sadly i don't see jekyll getting the kind of overhaul he needs
they've had about 10 years
rapid bough
even so you may want to consider abandoning the collab banner; the ur banner nex...
but muh collection
runic ether
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1h28b3k/miyabi_attack_connections_via_leifa/
rapid bough
not that the visual fx aren't badass but holy shit miyabi's animations are so noisy with particle effects lol
i'm never gonna be able to tell what part of a combo i'm on
rapid bough
yeah lmao
tfw even more blue glow to a character who turns half the battle stage blue with glowing effects
astral drift
copper steppe
the sex
old galleon
social credit gave me some train lady
torn harbor
https://x.com/bunni_funni/status/1862059476209025075
Hmm
Are you interested in trying the wizardry gacha?
runic ether
sunday my goat
patent swift
https://youtu.be/ZFWC0dwB3wY?si=CQ34RMI82feIilFY
THAT'S MY BOY
I have 128 pulls saved for him rn
I'll get him even if I lose the 50/50
rapid bough
winter nikke event teaser
sick art
i think that's maiden, laplace, and vesti. blondie may also be guillotine which would make sense if maiden is involved
we going RPG theme
wispy goblet
winter nikke event teaser
that's just a dragon
man said we fighting ice barriers now
rapid bough
ygo collab when
old galleon
i think? she's the first one i've pulled with a favorite item
rapid bough
laplace, exia, frima, and viper are the other 4
old galleon
then yeah
old galleon
ygo collab when
they'd either give the harpie lady sisters guns, or traptrix monsters guns, no in between
maybe be careful what you wish for : ^)
rapid bough
feel like it'd be sky striker and we'd just get raye's forms lol
old galleon
sky striker feels too low hanging (and probably not nostalgic enough)
at the very least i'd think they'd try to find a way to squeeze in dmg
if they can make re:zero characters fit, why not
rapid bough
true not including DMG would be a crime
i think takahashi might rise from the dead and send whoever approved a ygo/nikke collab to the shadow realm
also new weser skin and new meta (guilio cesare) announced, likely the cruise pass skin + meta
rapid bough
i don't watch streams and just saw on the subreddit so
old galleon
yeah the sub has a habit of reposting news a lot
like for ship reveals, someone will post the cn announcement, then someone else will post the jp announcement, then a third person will post the en announcement
rapid bough
lol
i am 2 whole fleet tech points away from being able to start development on harbin
i was about to ask where i can find dragon empery stuff but then i realized i can just MLB one of the ships i have
honest pawn
the new MD is supposed to be hard
the way the new buffs work you can get the two most broken rupture ego gifts almost guaranteed within the first two floors
I've played rupture for like 6 runs
and I've been able to get this setup every time
rigid pilot
@idle grove I think
old galleon
min turned the fergus aq
euryale might look overkill but after break he has a 1m damage cut
so she's one of the few viable min turners
can probably do with a sufficiently high np orion (og) as well
incidentally the demon one took like 6 turns? had to do some carding but it was similarly free
habetrot+castoria kinda trivializes it
and the centaur one is piss easy, just bring all women and have someone who can aoe charm
(mata hari can do that so you have no excuse)
slow raft
Hmm
Are you interested in trying the wizardry gacha?
Not at all, no
torn harbor
D:
torn harbor
Not at all, no
What if I told you you can mimic Natsuki Subaru and essentially return by death to fix the timeline?
slow raft
Whos natsuki subaru?
old galleon
mc of re:zero
his obligatory isekai superpower is the ability to rewind time by dying
(he has no control over where he returns to, which is occasionally a plot point)
||"[I’ve heard it said that’cha and the folks of this city are awfully tough..."||
went back and cleaned up some of the older aq's i haven't done yet, including the banana one
which i wanted to 1 turn but eresh just didn't have the damage with what i was forced to bring
so it took 5 turns instead but was pretty easy aside
also fuck whoever thought implementing werewolf as an aq was a fun idea
honest pawn
ARE YOU FUCKING JOKING ME
I DECIDE TO FINALLY GET AROUND TO DOING RR4 AND I PICK UP MOST REWARDS AND DECIDE TO PULL ON THE SINCLAIR BANNER
THREE 000'S IN A ROW
oh and for my S4 ticket I got her
unbelievable
slow raft
Twitter
old galleon
does carnelian count as a sheep
versed pawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VHFGeAJ1FQ well not full animation here yet
she hyperreal
honest pawn
I DID IT
I GOT HOM
IM
AO HAPPY
IM SO FUCJUNG HAPPY
oh muramasa, I'm just feeling real low
"I can show up in your summons if you do a 10-pull"
copper steppe
congrats lol
slow raft
Twitter
timber sigil
Oh hey my friend drew that
honest pawn
now, I could be smart and save up the rank up quests and interludes and free quest sq for oberon in a week or so
or I could go for np2 muramasa
rapid bough
Idk if anyone here's gonna play GFL2
i'll be giving it a try
never played the original gfl
but gfl2 interests me
rapid bough
absolutely nothing from today's 10-pull
nana acquired from today's
haruna is all that's left... vietnam flashbacks to oriani from roma rerun event
copper steppe
BIG MONEY BIG MONEY
slow raft
Personally i think np1 is enough
But idk what servants youre gunning for in the near future
summer hornet
OMEDETOUUUUUUUUUU
toxic cloud
honest pawn
I will
glossy latch
Is the order Sunday then Fugue?
rapid bough
holy hell i did not realize this rapid training campaign in AL is gonna last until 12/11
i am gonna run out of rainbow/gold books for the first time in a looooooooooooooong time
runic ether
Is the order Sunday then Fugue?
ye
glossy latch
35 rolls til hard pity
Which I assume means 25 until soft pity right?
Or is it 20
long tree
19 and then soft starts
versed pawn
Why exactly do we not get trial characters for the that side event thing
old galleon
congrats
idle grove
time to see if I can roll the 5th np for muramasa now
rapid bough
secret garden hard c12 ending
||another addition to the harem, all in a day's work for cummander||
slow raft
Twitter
mental acorn
glossy latch
so 19 + 1 is soft pity
Gotcha
Ill probably reach that with ease, hard pity is gonna be a pain to get to tho
rapid bough
hopefully you won't need to get that far anyway lol
runic ether
old galleon
nikke keeps givine me a server network exception and kicking me out
so uhh yeah that's fun
game shouldn't be in maintenance unless i'm blind
slow raft
its not the servers, it works fine on my end
old galleon
aight we in
rapid bough
launcher login cycle fixed it?
old galleon
ye, found that on google around the same time you replied
not sure why that happened but w/e
rapid bough
old galleon
probably nothing too exciting gonna happen tonight; today's special intercept is grave digger who i still can't kill, etc
rapid bough
how far can you get in grave digger? like what stage
old galleon
last run was stage 8
old galleon
...
what does she expect me to say?
"yes, whenever i eat too much spicy food"?
...
again, what does she expect me to say?
"mating is the act of making your partner's butt light up"?
rapid bough
she doesn't know what she doesn't know
you must teach her, commander
except not about that whole mating business because we don't do that here, alice must be protected not lewded
major anchorage vibes
old galleon
knowing nikke's target audience, i'm sure some people lewd her
rapid bough
unfortunately yes
rapid bough
first nikke winter alt announced, as expected it is maiden
old galleon
holy blessed
got enough mileage to guarantee if i don't end up pulling her, but new year is still a consideration
rapid bough
got nearly 200 vouchers saved and 145k gems behind that
everything will be mine
i've been preparing for this since the summer event after seeing how much it drained my savings
turns out pulling 6 limited characters can be expensive
if the theories about yesterday's event teaser art are correct we will also be getting a guillotine alt and potentially vesti too (but 3 alts would be weird, i bet vesti will get a skin)
if one or more of the alts is good, this event may save us from elysion tower hell
would kinda suck if the best elysion units are gated behind a seasonal event tho
summer sorta did that with tetra and anis/rosanna/sakura, but they have plenty of really good non-seasonals so they're still fine
mental acorn
thorns alter is real let's goooo
and it looks like the expedition may be going south across the hotlands big pog if so
old galleon
bruh c wamdus has been out for 3 hours and people are already using her in gold brick pbhl farming
old galleon
guess the ulpianus event is getting dropped in global arknights soon
til gladiia gets a second skin out of it, but i much prefer her first one anyway
also prefer her first module to her second one now that i'm looking at that
but it's all fine, gladiia was pretty much always solid and her first module only helped that
mental acorn
old galleon
man i haven't played arknights seriously in too long, but it'd also be hard to juggle it with everything else i'm playing on top of gfl2 dropping in a few days
maybe i'll just check on it periodically and wait for endfield or something
old galleon
....it's just gonna be hbr isn't it
my guesses for most likely collabs
- hbr, game just got a global release (and would be in-house since wfs works on both)
- chrono trigger, 30th anniversary and chrono cross collab already exists
i can't think of anything else that's particularly likely so anything else would feel a bit out of left field for me
but we did get king of fighters back in august so that'd be par the course
some potential other options i could see happening, that'd make some sense for this world
- suikoden; the 1 and 2 remaster drops next year so the timing fits there too, and making the characters fit in ae's world would be pretty easy
plus i think grasta are enough like runes that there's potential for overlap there
- re:zero; unlike nikke, where i don't think that collab made any sense, re:zero makes a lot more sense in a fantasy setting (esp present and past) like that of ae
plus the new season's still airing, so timing-wise that'd make sense too
- danmachi; while the gacha is effectively dead, the anime is still airing a new season and danmemo was once in-house since wfs worked on that too
the fact ae never got a danmachi collab despite danmemo getting an ae collab never made sense to me
- dungeon meshi; they seem to be amenable to gacha collabs since arknights had its dungeon meshi collab relatively recently, and the property seems popular enough
plus cooking as a minigame has been huge in ae collabs before, since that's kind of a big thing with the two tales of collabs
everything else i can remotely think of feels like cope
but then again, kof
so i'll go for an oddball pick'
well, "oddball" compared to the others on my list
- nier
future time exists so nier fits there
and nier collabs with just about every gacha property on the planet that isn't like fate or azur lane or something
future existing is also why you could justify collabs like xenoblade (tho i guess xenoblade could also sorta fit in present), or even other cross-gacha collabs like gfl or arknights (but those have a less than zero chance of happening)
sword of convallaria could make for a fun present collab, but i also don't think that's particularly likely
esp since the one time ae tried to implement a strategy minigame it was absolutely horrible to navigate
similarly, a unicorn overlord collab would run into the same issue, with the bonus of trying to do real time strategy minigames in this game, which would be even worse
oh wait isn't triangle strategy getting an ar release or something soon
it could totally be that
triangle strategy already did a collab with cotc, so it wouldn't be completely out of left field
the thing is, based on precedent, absolutely every collab ae has done has been with a video game series, not an anime or other such property
i eventually think they'll break that trend, but idk when that'll be
so that'd make the ones like re:zero or danmachi less likely
i remember they've asked on surveys before what kinds of collabs people would like to see
anyway, all that speculation aside, i think heaven burns red is by far the most likely collab due to timing and being in-house, but it's not guaranteed
i'd personally most like a danmachi or suikoden collab, but i have not a lot of hope for them
i'd also be okay with chrono trigger to tie everything together
honest pawn
do you know when the next best CE for arts looping is?
rapid bough
haruna is all that's left... vietnam flashbacks to oriani from roma rerun event
uuuuugh still no haruna from today's 10-pull
the collector in me can't stop pulling
honest pawn
I really want a muramasa costume that just puts him in shirou's outfit
it'd be so peak, please nasu...
glossy latch
Well, I have Corin and Ben maxed out now
In terms of mindscapes
So hey, they become free rolls on my path to Lighter
rapid bough
holy fuck this month's harbiter is ridiculously more difficult than last month's
glossy latch
Also 32 rolls away from lighter, and I still have most of Arpeggio Fault to go
rapid bough
fuck off manjuu why are the skill difficulties allowed to vary so significantly
glossy latch
So I think Lighter should be coming home fairly reliably
rapid bough
i'll take my 50% reward and run i guess because this harbiter is some grade A bullshit
idle grove
Twitter
old galleon
do you know when the next best CE for arts looping is?
if you missed ocean flier, wait for the rerun
old galleon
a little under 2 years from now, assuming global does the same reruns jp did
honest pawn
bet
old galleon
jp had a poll a while back for events people would like to rerun, and the da vinci summer event and lilim harlot event won
barring that, i can't really think of any new ones that are specifically great for arts looping
but a bunch of arts loopers can use black grail anyway
honest pawn
ah yeah
it just sucks because I only have muramasa and a xu fu and that can't quite achieve the same consistency
old galleon
xu fu isn't as good in most contexts as a second castoria but she should still be usable
did you ever get oberon?
old galleon
oberon would help a lot since he'd provide 70% on his own, just use combat uniform
dull bridge
glossy latch
... what exactly was the annihilation gang's deal in the end
Seems like a lot of effort to just ice them off-screen
patent swift
They'll be relevant later
runic ether
yeah
it'll be for them to show up as playables/minor villains
hsr does have an off-screen problem
acheron off-screened the annihilation gang
sam doing her 2nd death
aventurine escaping and finding the truth of the dream
and getting saved by argenti
jade freeing sunday
penacony has been the land of off-screen
idle grove
Twitter
old galleon
what the fuck
aside from the fact that the runner missed 3 and a half months of events, including anni and summer, to run this
this is easily the most impressive thing i've seen in fgo
sad that it didn't carry over to story progress due to being longer than 2 weeks
long tree
penacony has been the land of off-screen
I didn’t know Blackbeard wrote for Hoyoverse
slow raft
Hoyoverse writing penacony:
rapid bough
second nikke winter alt revealed, it's chuuni time
may her and maiden be the saviors of elysion tower
rapid bough
if the art in the background is a peek at her burst ani, that shit is gonna go hard
glossy latch
Down to 23 rolls til hard pity
... I think I might go to hard pity lmao
... I swear Clara is the only one I dont get Eidolons for, Himeko too?
runic ether
it be like that
gepard had dodged me like the plague
i only finally got him not too long ago
im never gonna use him
rapid bough
... I think I might go to hard pity lmao
isn't soft pity for hoyo games really generous? like an extra 6% per pull once it starts or something
runic ether
but he was that awkward spot
torn harbor
I'm missing himeko but I'm picking e4 bronya for the free pick we are getting
runic ether
isn't soft pity for hoyo games really generous? like an extra 6% per pull once i...
p generous yeah
rapid bough
trade-off is that it starts pretty close to hard pity, but it also makes actually hitting hard pity somewhat unlikely
runic ether
hard pity is 90, soft pity starts at 75 (i think genshin's starts at 70 idr anymore)
torn harbor
Rates before soft pity are also really low
rapid bough
Rates before soft pity are also really low
yeah hoyo games are lame in that way
they get by on their reasonable pity systems
runic ether
having talked with my sister about fgo and their pity system kicking in at like 300 pulls
rapid bough
but the fact that pity is such a huge part of pulling in hoyo games means more pulls are necessary on average to get your characters
runic ether
rapid bough
and that's how they print money
fgo is just awful lol
i haven't played it but its reputation for terrible pity and rates precedes it
glossy latch
I mean Himeko Eidolons are good (E2 is just flat damage up) but I just want to get Clara to E6 eventually 😔
runic ether
1 free clara at a time
torn harbor
yeah hoyo games are lame in that way
At least it isn't FGO
With horrible rates and no pity system until later in its life
And the pity system is still worse than that of the game that decided to copy it (magia record)
glossy latch
1 free clara at a time
Unironically the plan
rapid bough
the fact that my first few gachas were on the very generous side (azur lane + nikke) has spoiled me
brown dust 2 as well, even though i don't play it anymore
glossy latch
Helps that theres not really any other standard unit that really needs Eidolons tbh
rapid bough
snowbreak literally copy/pasted hoyo rates + pity iirc (i don't play it anymore either tho)
torn harbor
the fact that my first few gachas were on the very generous side (azur lane + ni...
My first gacha game is going to make me seem ancient
But it was brave frontier
torn harbor
My first gacha game is going to make me seem ancient
But it was brave frontier
(aka power creep the game)
glossy latch
Bronya is fine but I have E1 Sparkle
rapid bough
i only fell down the gacha rabbit hole at the start of this year, so i've never even heard of brave frontier
runic ether
my technical 1st gacha game was fire emblem heroes but i hated it and dropped it pretty quick
glossy latch
And you rarely run two of her style of character in one team
runic ether
bronya sparkle hyper carry of old
glossy latch
Himeko is good enough at E2, and the rest of the standard units are ... not good
runic ether
well thats the thing they are like fine
glossy latch
I mean Welt is the other one that goes funny on E6
runic ether
but they are super dated
glossy latch
Clara and Bronya are the only two keeping up
runic ether
himeko > clara/bronya
copper steppe
i don’t have himeko yet
glossy latch
Like E6 is such a huge DPS boost on Clara, its kinda funny
Oh well, I think Ill just keep farming for Lighter pulls tomorrow
runic ether
yea for sure
glossy latch
I still have most of Arpeggio fault to go through
runic ether
im super tempted to get lighter after playing him in the streets of rage mode lol
glossy latch
Plus I think I can do Shiyu until the fourth or fifth hopefully
runic ether
i'd be super down for a co-op zzz mode like that
torn harbor
i only fell down the gacha rabbit hole at the start of this year, so i've never ...
Really old gacha game that ran from 2013 to 2022 notorious for it's rampant power creep
What started out as 5 star being the highest rarity became... I think it 8
Forgot it's been a while
Brave frontier 2 is still running though as far as I'm aware
torn harbor
my first gacha is like summoner wars
No worries
Mine is more ancient :v
Soccer spirits was like my second one iirc
And that's one of the few gachas I know that went EoS cause Devs genuinely did everything they wanted to do
(it's now in no updates mode but still running iirc)
Brave frontier is only a few months younger than kancolle...
glossy latch
Its a shame Lighter is mostly an off-field character tho
torn harbor
I know some people whose first was RoB and Imas CG
Which are both 2011 cygames gachas
glossy latch
Do Bangboos even really matter?
rapid bough
NICOLE SMASH
theoretically i could've increased her ATK infinitely but there's no reason to, just having a wee bit of fun in this tedious game mode
runic ether
Do Bangboos even really matter?
ye
do you mean copies of them?
if so idt they matter a whole lot but the bangboos do have a pretty strong effect
rapid bough
not that i'm super in tune with the meta but they've felt more rewarding in comps with a stunner (so you can use bangboo chain attacks)
in anomaly comps they just occasionally throw a chunk of anomaly buildup on enemies with their ability since you don't stun as often for chain attacks
they don't really make or break a team but they're a nice boost i guess
if you're avoiding leveling them because you don't have the dennies that's understandable ig, they definitely won't help as much as a leveled agent
runic ether
I meant Bangboos in general
they do matter. they are not the most significant portion of a team's damage
rapid bough
but they use different XP mats compared to agents so if you have the dennies you may as well?
runic ether
but they do have some useful effects
their chain mats are also quite solid and some of them have buffs for free
or other small utility
rapid bough
the more damage-focused bangboos like cui do actually hit like a truck on their chain attacks and whatnot
runic ether
ye
i dont think u need to level them to 60 but 50 for most of the non-anomaly focused bangboo is good
rapid bough
at 1-star, cui's chain attack hits nearly as hard as a zhu yuan ult
(mostly because cui has insanely high base ATK, his multiplier is much lower than zhu yuan's ult tho)
(ATK buffs like from starlight engine will push zhu yuan's ult to way more damage but just talking base stats here)
digital marlin
my technical 1st gacha game was fire emblem heroes but i hated it and dropped it...
Ayo same
old galleon
i stuck with feh for a while but dropped it at some point after they released aether raids and never bothered returning
as much as i like fire emblem, i couldn't justify it, esp since i stopped having fun with just playing it generally
digital marlin
Yeah the Game is way to focused around the gacha and it hurt it in the long run due to the power creep involved
This year is probably one of the worst
If you see the stuff they came out wew.
old galleon
i haven't looked at a feh character in ages, i'm not sure i even want to know
digital marlin
Best way to describe how going from 2023 units to 2024 in Yu-Gi-Oh terms it would feels like going from TOSS format to Snake eyes format.
rapid bough
i realized that i hate myself so i went and grinded out the rest of arpeggio fault all at once (the last 3 zones so like 15 floors worth of shit)
even with essentially speedrunning to the end of each section there's no doubt in my mind that this event was 10x longer than it needed to be
i really hope hoyo never does this again lmao
wispy goblet
day by day
old galleon
congrats on your tsundere twintails
versed pawn
my E1 aventurine looks strange
old galleon
let's go
torn harbor
https://x.com/GFL2EXILIUM_EN/status/1863161405119320539
nvm the basically linear graph on the number of preregs per day, we won!
idle grove
also for gfl2 the must pull units afaik are centaureissi and suomi
and suomi is a launch character now
Twitter
6 redeemable codes too apparently
long tree
Do we have a launch date?
torn harbor
and suomi is a launch character now
Was planning on getting her either way 😎