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anyway
i also almost forgot to do mount liang cq
i think it would be worth it BUT now you can absolutely wait to see if you get her somewhere in your next 19 free pulls
the gong exterminated it
fair point
you prolly don't need me to tell you but obviously cinderella goes into all your squads now
replace soline
yep
alrighty
Khaios how good is the next anni unit
all indications seem to be she's cracked
grave? she reads as utterly insane to me
to be fair though, that's the default state of anni pilgrims
well
you'll get freebies from anni
you'll get 21 free pulls on her banner just like on cinderella's
so not all hope is lost
and you can get like
Who would you say is more valuable to have gone for her or Cinderella
fifty million recruit vouchers from the event and freebies over the course of the next 3 weeks
i honestly expect grave to be stronger than cinderella but there's no way of knowing atm
oh right as the ssr who's closest to mlb should i just manually level her or put her in synchro machine for now?
both are cracked though soooo
i can always reset levels on rapi or anis if i need to
just put her in synchro for now. resetting to level particular nikkes is only really relevant once you actually MLB them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS-tZQGytkI ashikai always does her research on lore super well holy
I think I know how and why Hollow Zero erupted, and I might even know who.
Spoilers: I don't think it was Carole Arna.
#hoyocreators #zzzero #zzzstoryline
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aight
to elaborate, grave is a support with bonkers buffs to pierce, and three of the strongest DPS nikkes in the game (red hood, alice, and asuka vs fire-weak enemies) have permanent pierce
support tends to be king
so her buffs will probably take those 3 to ludicrous levels of damage
cinderella will almost certainly have nutty levels of damage herself, but that's all she offers
also i think cinderella will be best against bosses, whereas grave (as a support) may very well work anywhere
since cinderella's burst is almost certainly the highest single-target nuke in the game
man D:KW + grave + alice + red hood teams are gonna hit different
the bottom portion of this skill is unbelievably cracked
pierce damage up works like attack damage up, both are basically just "damage done +%" (with pierce buff just being for nikkes with pierce)
so this burst says "any nikke with pierce in your party does nearly double damage"
it's frankly absurd
and that's not even to speak of grave's own buffs to herself, she's probably going to be doing huge DPS on her own despite "just" being a support
for my money she probably has the highest damage buffs in the game and they apply to both herself and her party which is just absurd
anyway
none of that is to say cinderella is weak, she's not. she's just a pure DPS unit whereas grave can scale with the rest of her squad, so grave is higher value
as argor said, support tends to be king
one caveat to the above is that typically the slot you use for squad healing/shielding is your burst 2 (blanc, naga, marciana, crown)
grave is burst 2 with no (squad) healing, just all gas no brakes
so for fights where you need healing she may be more awkward to use, or may require your 5th squad member to be an off-burst healer like old!rapunzel
i wouldn't worry too much though, there are so many more free pulls you can get during this event still
guaranteed 21 on grave + like 60 more between event shop and random rewards during anni
how many golden pity tickets do you have?
idk how much having a given unit controlled in auto skews the results but
that seems a bit much
til there's a nikke named milk
that poor girl
okay so one noticeable downside i'm noticing to cinderella seems to be that her burst gen is extremely low
if not outright zero
likely not much, but her bursting when scarlet doesn't get to might do it
alternatively, that's just annipilgrim.wav
that one's from a 1:30 long fight so both had opportunities
against a boss or bunch of mooks
ofc one fight isn't a reasonable sample but cinderella is consistently doing more damage in general
not surprising really
the screened one was a simple defense battle in trial tower, but it's consistent over various content
scarlet was a release pilgrim and while she's still strong, she's powercrept
and doesn't help you're pre-resilience cube for reload speed and pre-overload gear so she's constantly reloading
cinderella is definitely a much better unit off rip
i think she might be lack AoE like most rocket launchers
scarlet: black shadow is another RL that does that
RL typically excel at burst gen because they can hit multiple targets at once, but if cinderella can't do that then rip
speaking of cubes here's a sector 3 defense battle for a sample with a bit more parity to my combat power
also i'm not super sure if anis is the play now but i don't hate her so i'll run her for now
i suggested anis specifically because she's good for burst gen (one of the best units in the game for it actually, she even has relevance in PvP for this reason despite being an SR)
you're in a situation where you have 4 units in your burst ladder (with cinderella/scarlet trading off b3 every other time)
so your 5th unit just needs to be there for some utility
that can be an off-burst DPS, can be a healer (not necessary w/ marciana), a buffer, a shielder, or in anis's case, a burst battery
lots of options in theory but given your limited roster it's kind of whatever
once you get the free privaty i'd use her, she's a great off-burst buffer option
after i'm finished with this lost sector run i'll repost roster although i'm not sure a lot has changed in terms of the recommendations
i assume these cube enhance mats are unique to whatever cube they're associated with
just got ones that are apparently only for the assault cube
correct
yeah i'd still use anis personally, especially since cinderella apparently has bad burst gen
again, if you're lazy you can throw anis in the 3rd spot so you enter battle with her focused for even higher burst gen
only other option i really see there is new rapunzel for a free shield on entering battle
alrighty
also with my limited rosters should i even bother with manufacturer towers?
if you can do them you should try, but don't sweat not being able to
ye
i have 4 pilgrims right now for example, so can't even build a full squad for that one
you don't need a full squad, technically
tho i guess 4 is not bad
that is the problem, ye
you don't have a pilgrim b2 rip
grave will be the key, once she's out
until then, crown is really your only semi-reliable option since all the others are 40sec cooldown b2s
if i can get her
i'm almost convinced i've spent this and next year's luck on that one ten roll
like that's the most absurd roll i've had in any game i've played
yeah that roll is among the luckiest i've seen and among the luckiest possible
it'd be hella lucky on any rate-up banner but it hits different on an anni pilgrim because (1) they're OP and (2) pilgrim rate-up isn't even 2%, it's 1%
so you hit three 1/100 chances in a single 10-roll
mhm
for perspective fgo's general ssr rate is 1%
i've been playing global fgo since launch, so a bit over 7 years
the best i've done on that is two 5* at once
based considering the 4 stars on nagi's banner stink lol
honestly kinda surprised seth isn't one of em, electric anomaly buffer to go with electric anomaly???
then again nagi is disorder spam so what do i know
why sell seth when u can give him for free with enough pulls
they're nice yeah but i'd rather just wait since 4 stars are 4 stars
it's also 7 more pulls toward a 5 star which is the only reason anyone's pulling lol
its more efficient for getting specifics
u would be surprised
hoyo games have very dedicated 4 star main communities
more power to em but that ain't it for me chief
not gonna argue with more options for those who want to use them
enough that there are (reasonable) complaints that there isnt any 4 star pity/guarantee
but you won't catch me ever buying those guaranteed dupes
and tbf hoyo has def been able to make 4 stars incredibly good/meta
yeah it's not a "4 star bad" problem
yea i kinda get it chase the shiny 5 star
it's just that the most valuable resource in any gacha is, imo, pulls for 5 stars/SSRs
tho tbf i also think that zzz is generous enough to be reasonable that u can divert resources for 4 stars in the shop
but it isnt so mandatory in the way genshin does it
bennett is going strong going on 5.2 patches where hes the best character or 2nd best
and mandatory for any attack scaler
i won't argue with zzz's generosity but if i hadn't been intelligently saving 5 star pulls i would've been COOKED for this run of 5 stars that i want
it'd be like if nicole/lucy/soukaku are hard meta 4 years later
with no alternatives
despite a now rather massive cast
honestly yeah
i can see nicole
just cus that def shred
is so fucked lol
and her cinemas are insane too
queen
- she's one of the most marketed characters in the game so
plot relevant (possibly)
basically poster girl material
oh bennett is just some guy in genshin tho lol
he had an event last year
he wasnt even present

the joke is despite being competent he is extremely unlucky but
like 0 dialogue
it was about him
and idk if u can make a replacement
cus if u make a 2nd bennett u just run 2 bennetts
creeping the hell out of non-atk scalers
idk how genshin solves this besides just going for interesting over raw meta
which they have been doing so far but like damn 4 star meta warping
and (one maybe) replacement in sight if we are lucky
that said i wouldnt wanna be in hsr's spot for zzz where it has killed its 4 stars with some regularity
they still clear but like oof
2 relevant (kinda 3) launch 4 stars. they release some mid ones throughout finally a good one in gallagher and then creep him with a 5 star a few patches later
miyabi 2nd half lets go
i can go for lighter + w-engine (im starving on engines)
god help me if i ever pull for a w-engine
zzz is def lacking a bit in a variety of w-engine options for f2p
for non-attackerd
*attackers
non-support
so def + anom + stun
the craft options are fine
but u really feel the lack of options rn
theres no f2p defense engine with impact or attack
and lighter has insane buffs but needs a ton of impact p bad
come to think of it yeah idk wtf i'm gonna put on yanagi, since gemini and lip gloss are on jane and burnice respectively
and i think i remember hearing that yanagi's w-engine is actually cracked for her and way better than any f2p option
oh dear
you use some fo the craft options
rainforest gourmet, come on down
indeed
its actually pretty good
problem
you'd ideally want max copies of it
thats like
15
lol
thats an insane grind
this message also assumes i will actually get yanagi but ooooooof i'm feeling the poly squeeze after burnice
i managed to leave each previous banner with some pulls/polys intact
but burnice incinerated all my savings
i failed on jane + burnice and since cbt1 i've wanted miyabi
so i'm okay just missing on burnice for now
i'll wait for reruns
hoyo will love reruns later
so far i've been insanely lucky to only hit 50/50 pity once (and won), in all other cases i got the char earlier
if i don't get lucky on yanagi i'm cooked
im paying for my sins in star rail
i have never lost a weapon banner in hsr
i have also only spent like 100 pulls
i have every single weapon i wanted
have i ever mentioned that weapon banners are the WORST and i hate that hoyo normalized them
no but ur not wrong
genshin's weapon banner was offensively bad until 5.0
u had to hit pity twice before the 3rd one was guarantee
and its split
you pull on the weapon banner between the weapons of both current 5 stars
🤮
whenever there's a highly desired character, they would always pair them with another one that has a mid/bad weapon
it was super blatant
yeah
lol
also the 4 stars in the weapon banners
genshin 4 star weapons are actually super relevant
and they rotate them to make sure u can never get the most blessed rotation of 3+ favonius weapons and/or xiphos
4 star wengines seem pretty relevant in ZZZ too but maybe that's specifically because i never pull the 5 star ones lol
nah they are
hsr is awful about it
some characters only have a 5 star option
everything else is a massive dps loss
at least hsr banner is not too bad
its a single banner per weap
- 75/25
but yeah zzz has 2 things: relevant 4 star engines
- relevant craftable engines
congrats
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honestly kinda surprised that the rewards for beating harbiter seem so mediocre
then again, i guess it's somewhat consistent that the hardest content in AL (e.g. EX stages, challenges) is also mostly optional and doesn't give ridiculous rewards
btw 3 more nikke redemption codes apparently:
- ULANGTAHUNNIKKE2ID
- NIKKE2NDANNIVKRKOL
- SALAMINSALAMIN
100 gems each, so 300 free gems
well i just got off and am going to bed soon so they'll have to wait
but i ran calcs and apparently the odds of getting three 1% outcomes within a set of 10 attempts is slightly over 1 in 10,000
further reinforcing that my luck for the rest of this year and next is probably dead
i lie, apparently one of these is 600 gems so it's actually 800 total

based
● Organize meeting minutes 1/1
● Department monthly expenditure report 1/1
● Investigator social event speech 4/4
● Book Asaba's health check-up 2/2
● Today's snacks for Soukaku 1/1
● [Urgent] Hollow Zero special operation proposal needs to be signed off by Miyabi 1/1
Note:
● Need to regulate Soukaku's daily mealtimes. Snacks should be eaten in ...
mommy? sorry. mommy? sorry.
they just drop whenever they want huh
i see yanagi has fully estbalished herself as group mom
overworked, underpaid
wow
nagi's ult animation might be my favorite in the game, that shit goes hard
it's either hers or anby's
from an artistic standpoint, billy's is incredible
the impact frames just sell it so well
but anby and yanagi absolutely do have super good looking ults
no disrespect to billy's but anby's impact frames are like 99% of why her ult is goated
the timing with her looking at the camera just hits diff
for sure
https://x.com/surtrcel/status/1852237798838874174
This is the kind of shit i would do if i was a ceo
GLORY TO PROJECTMOON
oh shit
he's actually giving info
HE OUTLINED PLEASE AND UNDERSTAND AND CIRCLED PLEASE AGAIN
THAT'S MY CEO
neat, pulled S11's sig wengine from standard banner
first 5 star wengine i've pulled
my level 1 S11 will use this well
seems her sig is insanely generic for attack agents though, that's nice
apparently there was an issue with solo raid (idk what it was) so they closed it down and just sent out the rewards you would've gotten from it to everyone over mail
so congrats, you may as well have completed solo raid!
only counts as "completed" if they handed out the rewards from the later ones too, since there's no way in hell i was gonna be able to do those
they handed out the same stuff to everyone yes
and i'm pretty sure it amounts to what you'd have received for doing all the stages
aight
finally
i'm....actually sorta surprised they didn't just make him the summon
and i'm kinda annoyed that whatever they did make the summon, i can't immediately identify it
afaik they haven't revealed the planned gacha characters but i'd expect benimaru to be one of them at least
unless he's the summon for some reason
based
That's ranga
is it?
I thought I saw the horn on top
like he'd be fitting as a summon but the fuckin box makes it hard to tell
Be a bit odd to have him twice though
I would've thought diablo would've made a good summon
possibly, but with this event having its own gacha i'd think he'd be more likely in there
speaking of, we still don't know which two characters are gonna be in that
They'll probably go with the two best sellers
rimuru is free and will get a 5* uncap, and veldora is free
from there, i'd have anticipated some combination of benimaru/shion/hinata/chloe in the gacha
leaving us shuna fans in the dust
Nah shuna has priority over shion in gachas from what I've seen
hmm aight
Oh wait a minute that summon might be shion
idk how far season 3 of the anime got but there are some other possible ones if they did
She's the only one that uses a flat tipped sword out of the main crew
oh i can sorta see it
It could be both shion and shuna with shuna behind shion using magic
also possible
like an oni sisters summon or something
oh right i guess milim is also a possibility for the gacha
So far this is all I can tell
man it's been like 2 years since i read the ln too
might go back and reread/catch up
That box thing at the bottom I have zero clue on
it's so peak
y'know i kinda want a nezzsalem boss fight bc that'd be incredibly cool but at the same time i can't imagine RI winning from a story perspective
kinda like how the patriot fight went 
ugh i need to use bulins to clear up dock space but i don't have the coins to LB a bunch of shit
haven't been this short on coins in a while, turns out spending 15k per day minimum on pulls for several weeks is a major coin drain
the solution is to buy a ton of oil from oil-rich countries and use it to commit genocide on choukai for 2k coins a pop
but seriously coin shortages do suck but they're only short term as long as you're diligent
i'm definitely diligent, possibly to the point of sabotaging myself since i also neurotically keep up research and coining a PR + DR 10 times
15k on pulls + 10k on shipyard is minimum 25k per day
not to even mention what i spend keeping research up, which will vary based on which projects are available but probably averages to another 5-10k per day
||okay this probably isn't meant to be played for laughs but exia getting gunned down mafia style was hilarious||
i held my weekly missions for monthly reset for the spec cores though, so that was a nice infusion of cash today
smh
aight so for interception, if i can't kill the next one do i still go to it anyway or stick with the lower level one i can kill?
i assume just move on
i think even getting to stage 1 of the next interception level is better than a full clear of the interception level below it
aight
yeah i experimented with my old team which isn't optimized at all and even at like 300k damage before wipe i saw multiple blue gear pieces
so this is clearly better lol
thing nukes me like 20 seconds into the fight though and i'm clearly not familiar with its mechanics
yeah stage 1 of S intercept gives 5 guaranteed T5/T4M pieces
destroys me through cover
whereas stage 9 of D intercept has a 36.25% chance of giving you a single piece of T5/T4m
so S intercept is waaaaaay better
it's grave digger right? if you fail two sets of the interruption circles in a row, it's basically an instawipe for unleveled parties
ye
took a run to stage 2 and i'm okay with that for now
got several blue pieces out of them
new gold mold pull got me helm
blessed
closest thing to a shipfu in nikke
AL collab when
looks like sector 4 gave the resilience cube
with only one slot currently i assume it just goes straight on cinderella
Yea
that is true facts
i didn't notice the effects were reordered but the biggest thing is def the anti-curse
get a few stacks up and she hits pretty hard
today's missilis tower and my missilis roster is in dire straits lol
i have a million burst 1 but only 2 burst 3, one of whom is blue, and only one burst 2, again, blue
and i don't exactly have infinite synchro machine slots either
bob love!
Arknights collab would b heat
Collab with I don't want to name
Dread it
Run from it
Persona 5 Collab arrives all the same
PGR apparently get a DMC5 collab soonish in CN
Honestly though I wouldn't be surprised if metaphor had a Collab with limbus
Mainly cause
The humans
nah it wouldn't work
I really hope it's not Blue Archive
Arknights collab with Lollang vanguard would be the ideal outcome
I think blue archive collab would be the funniest as an outsider
those are two communities that would not mesh together at all
Im sure there are some limbus players that would lile it but idt most people in the pm fandom would look kindly upon them
Nikke collab so we can get meursault breast jiggle
wait is that a mudrock skin?
Looks like it
Cell Vs the gacha communities

it's the free reward from IS5
probably like 7 months wait for us to get it :haha
yanagi's naginata is cool
as a reminder, between the anni CD codes and initial mail rewards, i think you should've gotten 3 items that give you free synchro slots
make sure to use em if you haven't already
yeah early on the manufacturer towers are rough with an incomplete roster
but later on elysion tower is the worst by far
elysion has a smaller roster than the other two and also has generally weaker units, it's rough
the bums of the big three
which is funny since they're meant to be the military-focused company (missilis is science, tetra is ENTAAAAAAHTAINMENTOOOOOOOO)
yeah but at least i dont' want to punch ingrid in the face
not sure how the story will redeem syuen, she's specifically written to be awful lol
inb4 it only makes her worse instead
i will neither confirm or deny the path they take with her
i mean every time she shows up it's just to be a smug ass and hurt the commander
and she gets away with everything bc the power of money
oh also i can't take mustang seriously at all but i can't hate him either
once you get into the deeper lore i think it becomes clear that mustang is a lot more than he seems
but yes superficially he is just a meme
the new advanced quests are so free
i should probably get caught up on some of the others i've been slacking on, but the three new ones are super easy
fionn has 737k hp
bedi slap does about 740k (through 50% np res)
i mean, free
i cooked
so this is that silly hans aq where you're supposed to wait several turns for him to remove his 90% def up and invincibility, while he summons a bunch of mobs in the meantime
the np seal is unremovable
but i did it anyway, thanks to the power of friendship and this gun that i found in the last event
drake has ignore invincible on a skill, and the sanzang ce from halloween has ignore defense
combined with mage's association to mitigate rng and you have a recipe for success
so instead of having to wait 3 or 5 turns, he becomes pretty trivial to one turn
idk how many ignore def ce's existed when this aq released but with an easily accessible one, it's clearly added to the "free" list
anyway, taking a break from aqs for now
looks like the one from saileach event
Tis ahab limbus company
then ahab at least somewhat resembles a character from saileach event : ^)
He's just 
In a good way
dude saw humanity nearly go extinct and said "but what if instead of making these living superweapons the last hope for humanity's survival, i make some exotic dancers in bunny suits instead"
and for this he is unfathomably based
"what if I make one out of an incredibly shy woman too"
incidentally this is definitely why tetra has by far the largest roster in the game, because they get the sexiest designs by merit of being made for ENTTUHTAINMENT by our lord and savior mustang
that raises several ethical questions
but idk if the concept of ethics exists in nikke, so
Nikkes don't have rights like people do, so some funky shit happens when making them
the backstory to how and why some characters became nikkes is profoundly fucked up lol
basically all bets are off regarding ethics on that front
well yeah, the lost relics paint a picture of propaganda pushing, protest (to no avail), and the inevitable shattering of dreams
smh I don't want to discuss ethics in my horny harem game
I need to decided 15 nikkes for my wishlist? I dont even know that many!
i posted suggestions for argor a few days ago
most of that will prolly hold for you too
some of it's that, but some is shit you won't see coming
mary & pepper's dual stories as the doctor nikkes come to mind
14-10 ||WOOOOOO YEAH BABY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR||
this chapter is so peak
OH FUCK
DORO SIGHTED
your early gacha luck continues to remain unbeaten
i don't even have dorothy
alrighty so what am i looking at here
i assume i can just use dorothy instead of rapunzel for the b1 pilgrim slot if there's only room for one
yes
dorothy was the 0.5 anni pilgrim and has been a bit powercrept but is still BIS as your b1 in pilgrim tower
she prolly doesn't crack your general campaign lineup over d:kw
she excels in bossing though, especially once you get free privaty
so i'd wager you can use her over d:kw for interception
pre or post privaty?
definitely post but maybe pre as well, idk
the reason she excels with privaty is that she has CDR but it's based on emptying her mag
also meta aside good lord she looks majestic
and privaty makes that happen more often
dorothy's design is honestly peak in the game and it's perfect for her personality, though you don't know it yet since you've yet to meet her
her in-game majesty is matched only by doro memes
doro creature is like essex face in AL except even more widespread, i've seen it spread to other gachas like wildfire
like a burnice doro i saw on tenor a couple weeks ago
apparently it disappeared from tenor so i could only find the old mp4 but there
in terms of gameplay she's pretty useless outside some cheesy i-frame strats in very particular boss fights
syuen was on it within 10 seconds of her first appearance
noted
well at the very least they're both going in the synchro machine
i have some more slots for now
hm
how much does limit breaking matter after breaking the wall?
like is it only useful for the minor stat gains at that point?
yep, and the cosmetic buff of getting the nikke's burst animation for your lobby at MLB if you want it
i specifically overpulled summer rosanna to MLB her this past summer event because her burst animation is peak
i would've done the same for summer mary but i was running low on savings so didn't risk it
but if that doesn't concern you, each limit break is just a 2% stat increase
s rosanna's design is a design of all time
if i hadn't already been into nikke at that point, s.rosanna would've gotten me into it
probably the raunchiest design in the game and not for nothing because that is some serious neuron activation
understandable
but, and you can call me crazy if you want, a lot of the designs i'm preferring so far are the more toned down, less blatantly sexualized ones
i like rapi's design, for one
i don't think that's crazy at all and i generally agree
marciana is one of my favorite designs for instance
but s.rosanna just hits different for me
again, understandable
i like rosanna's design to start with so i don't blame you for being so hyped for the summer one
shift up cooked hard for rosanna in general
everything from her design to her personality and role in the story
shame base rosanna is absolutely useless for gameplay except being very niche in PvP
she's one of the nikkes with a bond story + interactions that have her very aggressively pursue the commander and there's definitely implied seggs like more than once
so she gets bonus points for playing into the harem fantasy
but she's also a badass so there's that
indeed
i don't care too much about the harem stuff, nothing i'm not used to from other stuff
but i'm all for badass women
it's the combo
there are some chars that play into the harem but are insufferable, but rosanna is just sexy and she knows it and what she wants and is badass to boot
what's not to love
AS alma does have SA in vid above but even then I don’t fill board for any SA character which makes them exactly same as non SA level 80 character. I also don’t use stellar burst in video above because I refuse to use the system.
least sane min turn clear
(vid is 6 mins long)
(fight itself is about 4:40)
Fatfingered and did an event 10 pull in nikke because of it
How will i ever recover
Also wow, every time we hear from syuen she seems dumber and dumber
Im starting to feel bad for her, she clearly should not be in this position
finally i thought i would never get her
Figures lol
argor had a similar experience lol
Oh right
Auro select is working sofar but I should probably start building a proper team
What would a gold squad out of these look like
volume / marciana / cinderella / phantom / anis probably
suggesting anis for the same reason i did to argor
you have 4 units in your burst ladder (volume -> marciana -> cindy/phantom) so your 5th squadmate is just a flex pick
normally that'd go to some sort of buffer, but you don't really have one
next best thing is just a burst generation battery, and that's anis
probably. the free privaty from the day to day event is a good example

Is there any advantage to doing 10rolls?
okay seriously what do i have to do to make the game load in faster
pc or mobile
once i'm in it's usually fine but every time i log in it gets stuck on 5/7 progress for like 10-20 minutes
pc
but i think i've read people complain about it on mobile in the past
yeesh
oh right i also got a division by zero error when i was on an ex stage last night and tried to do a manual burst lol
which idk how that even happened
Yeah nikke loading is ass
we're at the point cinderella at only level 85 is outdamaging the support liter and marciana consistently
havne't seen the comparison with alice yet
is it just me or does emma's model look really wonky
her head in particular
i'm not totally sure a still captures what i mean
bc that looks fairly normal
but the motion definitely looks off to me
.........
I have aqcuired d:killer wife
Do i just replace volumen with her? I imagineits an upgrade
blessed fellow not!yor haver
looking at the cdr portions of their kits, d looks better; even at sl1 she has higher cdr than volume's skill at max ramp
if you desire the other portions of volume's kit over d's then you'd still consider volume, i think
i don't have volume but i use d fairly religiously in my comps and think she's fine
I also got clay, who i assume qualifies as a buffer and as such can replace anis in my comp
Man, mustand already seems like a way better person than syuen
And also smarter
What a guy
||ig rapi didnt get her memories deleted cause shes special (idr chatterbox called her red hood? Which i thought was someone else. And also the sqaud that rescused us seemed to be friends with her) either that or andersen pulled some strings or enikk did some mischief ig||
Also a voiceline mistake here, in the voiceover he misgendered chatterbox
voicelines not matching written lines is actually somewhat common so far
it goes both ways, tho; sometimes there'll be a typo or error in the text that is spoken correctly instead of with the typo
I played without audio for a fair bit
ye no worries
just pulled some cat nikke named umu
I can hear the UmU from here
aight today i'm on day 8 so i think i can get privaty today
yep, acquired the twintailed tsundere welfare
okay so the game just sprung the alice diary event on me after i got privaty
so i guess that's one way to get a free alice
Btw, which nikke should one choose for the prison rehab thing first?
whichever one you want honestly, none of them are particularly good for gameplay purposes

audio is worth it in nikke, both for the voiceovers and the music
yeah i'd use D:KW over volume in basically all cases
nope not just you
i've heard that emma was one of the very first nikkes to be designed so she has a weird uncanny valley effect going that not many of the others do
this sounds not right
For me thats 1-2 minutes
nikke's initial login time is longer than basically any other gacha i've played but it only ever takes like 1-2 mins max for me
something's up if it's taking 10x that
especially since your in-game load times seem to be fine
no, but gotta get that dopamine hit
i guess you could argue there's a small benefit for completing the weekly mission to recruit 20 times
if you save to mass recruit at the start of each week that becomes easy to finish
i actually save my social points for that purpose, since you get 210/week if you hit the max 30/day
it's just... so peak
her buffs are extremely mediocre so idk if they'll actually benefit you over anis letting you burst much faster
:(
reading online a common suggestion seems to be deleting the com_proximabeta folder (specifically the one separated with an underscore rather than a period) but i'm not sure if it'll work or not
at the very least, i'm far from the only person who's had the issue
i'm not necessarily surprised it is an issue that exists because yeah, nikke has always had problems with long load times
but that's well beyond the normal level of what nikke's awful loading optimizations would cause
something has to be wrong
yes but i'm extremely technologically illiterate so idk what
Oh hi there
epinel is aight
probably not better than cinderella or phantom for DPS though
will prolly be useful for missilis tower until you get better options
she has a buff she stacks up by killing things that makes her screenwide burst hit like a truck
but because she needs to be the one killing things it's kinda unreliable, especially if you have another premium DPS to steal kills (like cinderella)
and it doesn't scale very well into late game when things start getting more HP
got her for free from social points though so can't argue with it
yep
normally you'd get those from doing solo raid, and they wouldn't come in boxes, you just get random batteries after completing a raid stage
but some solo raid bug(s) caused them to shut down the raid and just give out rewards to everyone for free
Theres a bubch if other mats in random boxes im just gonna trade i too
first time i've seen that happen tbh
kinda unfortunate for them it happened for the anni solo raid
fortunate for all the people who joined during anni though lol
i think argor said he only got stage 1 done
out of 8
it's definitely an endgame thing lol
You said equipment upgrade is only worth it later, right? So i shouldnt bother with tier 4 stuff?
yeah don't bother upgrading gear that isn't tier 9 + manufacturer bonus
which you're far away from
it's a credit sink you can't afford and don't need anyway
all your credits should go to upgrading tactical academy + leveling nikkes
yeah i got badly powerspiked in stage 2 and i think this was before having a bunch of nikkes to form teams with
if it were still running i might be able to scrounge up a stage 2 clear by now tho
keyword might
after 3,000 years, nicholas finally opened her eyes
i'm finally free of 9-3 hell and am now in 9-4 hell
i will forever find it fitting that they made the ship named nicholas one who always looks sleepy as fuck
and i'm sure the reference is 100% unintentional
(bc what azur lane dev listens to dream theater)
lol her 'stranger' line in menu is "i'm not sleepy, i just can't open my eyes"
OPEN YOUR EYES NICHOLAS
i swear whoever localized nicholas' lines to english is fucking with me, and specifically me
wait, am i lucky to have nicholas or something
boss drop-exclusive purples are their own circle of hell, yes
that's ships like nicholas, niizuki, jintsuu, etc
i farmed jintsuu several years ago but i never bothered with nicholas or niizuki
until a while back when i started caring a little more about collection percentage and realized i needed to go grab them
but actually farming 9-3 and 9-4 is bad so i stopped that
and since i have more core data than i know what to do with, just did my hard modes on 9-3 for a while instead
(i went back to 12-4 for the triple core data event)
i'm looking at some high deficit clears on later fights and it's like a completely different game
i struggle when it's like 15% or so and got these people out here doing 40+
in nikke? yeah high deficit clears are how some people flex and it relies on perfectly optimal squad comps and some cheesing of mechanics to always make sure you have burst ready when going into the final wave of a mob fight
i wouldn't expect to get to even 30% without a perfect campaign comp and a lot of sweating to restart and plan your exact moves
the deficit penalties ramp up really fast, even at 10% deficit you're looking at 35% less stats (ATK, DEF, HP) for your squad and suffering 35% more damage
40% deficit is something like a 70% stat/damage suffered penalty
everything one-shots you at high deficits like that so you live and die on always having burst ready to clear the correct raptures
it honestly just sounds like a miserable way to play
i would agree and i personally don't bother trying to clear at substantially high deficits, like 10-15%+
i'll just wait to get stronger at that point lol
i probably could clear if i wanted to, i have the comps to do it
but i just cba
arknights cn dropped welfare crownslayer
and the game has my interest again
Noooo, i dont want to be a marketable plushiee, nooooooo
I put on of them on a unit and it doubled her combat power
Maybe these funkos arent that bad
||"We are finding less and less brains of nikkes who have been seperated from their bodies, even though the survival rate remains the same"
Gee, i wonder who could be taking them||
https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1gig4ez/special_qa_from_famitsu_pt1/ neat translated QAs from nikke's recent famitsu article
Q5: Can humans marry a Nikke in Ark?
A: It is legal, and there are a small number of cases. However, the outcome is not always a happy ending for everyone involved.
HUUUOOOUUUUGH OATH SYSTEM WHEN
Q7: Who are the most famous Nikkes in Ark?
A: Noise, Volume, and Aria from Prima Donna are among the most famous. Matis is also well-known, but even they cannot compare to Prima Donna. There was a Nikke who was even more famous than Prima Donna in the past.
there are very strong hints (+fan theories) that the famous nikke being referred to here is ||anis, or some past version of her||
yeah the dolls are actually pretty huge combat upgrades once you get them fully upgraded
and even before then in your case, since your nikkes' baseline power is relatively low so the dolls' flat stats give a big boost
I had the one on D fully upgraded and suddenly she has the most combat power out of any of them by a lot
Funkos too stronk
you should upgrade the dolls you put on your damage nikkes first
in your case i'd focus on cinderella's
Yeah i figured that out after that 
Why, it would seem that this rapunzel fellow has a rather poor constitution what with how shes alway panting with raggend breath and all. Poor girl, i hope she gets better!
she won't be able to do it on her own, she will need your close attention and assistance commander
unrelated side note, the amount of wise x belle fanart i see posted to r/zenlesszonezero is absolutely wild
i figured that shit would stay tucked away in the deepest darkest corners of the community like the NSFW subreddits
Im not in any zzz communities and i too have seen a shitload of it
this man pretending the nsfw stuff is hidden
not at all
Prolly the most of any art besides zhu yuan ass and nicole fanart
I think khaios was just suprised how popular an incest ship seems to be
there's expected NSFW that's out in the open like... yeah, zhu yuan ass, jane ass, nicole midriff and booba, yada yada
but shipping the sibling characters is something i'd normally expect to stay silent
I have seen a surprising amount of lycaon too
you fool
have you never seen a siblings or dating video
No i have not
its normally all over the place with genshin aether x lumine but the genshin sub is in direct control by hoyo
i've seen the folgers incest commercial, does that count
the zzz sub isnt
I would lile to amend my statement
Yeah I was about to say about aether and lumine
There’s also caelus and Stelle self shipping
Ig its time to commision belle saying "real coffee"
its unfortunately popular despite the game having a hang out system with other characters
you assume i dislike seeing it 
I do wonder what the cause is
u can go on effectively dates with everyone else but the incest shippers say nay
me when the mod says sister on sister is hot
isn't it strongly implied (but not yet confirmed) that wise/belle aren't blood siblings anyway
me when the mod has an incest meme on tap
yeah due to them being adopted by carole
but still incest is a big ew for me cus i have multiple siblings. i can just never see them that way
i truly just don't care one way or the other about it (i only have an older brother so i guess we know why)
i just didn't expect to see the degenerates out in full force
yea its like
seeing it i go ew but whatever yucks your yum ig
i wasnt expecting zzz to have that group out full force
I mean it is a tradition for the hoyo games since genshin so i wasnt exactly suprised
But just like with genshin i dont really get it
genshin had it. but hsr didnt. and neither did hi3rd
this is my first hoyo game so i hadn't properly set my expectations
If Dokkan is no degeneracy and blue archive is the peak, I think Hoyoverse games go around the middle leaning more towards the peak
now i know that the community for hoyo games is just as horny, if not moreso, than more open gooner games like nikke and azur lane
Theres a tonnof stelle x caelus art
Not exactly siblings but still the protagonist options
is selfcest just shipping the male/female versions of the protag
actually forget i asked :|
yep
For my tl it mostly gets drowned out by kafka/himiko and archeron/bs nowadays
Mine is all a Adventurine ratio
caelus x firefly
stelle x march
either x kafka
so ig u can rarely notice the selfcest
non protag ships are also popular indeed
ratiorine
i see a surprising amount of robinfly
Yeah same
actually i take it back it isnt that surprising
I was suprised since they didnt interact much in the story but ig i musta missed that
yeah they didnt but my so explained its just the 2 sad girls pairing
Ic
I do know a couple yuriheads really into depressing stuff so that checks out
and since sparkle is a no-go due to a true lack of proper interactions, and black swan already having acheron as the popular pair, it puts firefly as the front runner
firefly also fulfills the "knightly woman" to the "princess robin"
It wasnt heisenberg 😔
Mlynar
Mylnar is a silverash sidegrade, mountain is an excellent and cheap lanerholder, ntrk is a good helidrop/bosskiller, ebenholzer is oppenheimer against bosses, pozëmka has extremely high dps and through gimmick can shoot from two places at once, kaltsit is a defender that has giant bursts of true damage disguised as a medic, gladiia and weedy are the best puller and pusher respectively.
Most of them are a big plus for your roster, but id probably focus on thorns/mudrock/mountain for easy stage clearing and then mylnar/pozëmka/ebenholz for bosses
None of these operators are bad to raise obvs, but some are more niche so i would focus on stuff that helps you get through stages before going for the funky ones
Virtuosa is also really good but ive never used her outside of the rogulike mode so i dont really know how to rate her
how does the roguelike mode work btw
also is there anywhere good to farm for mats or is it just daily stages
You mean mechanics of the mdoe itslef or what you get from it?
Event currencs is usually the best way to farm mats since you can farm for upgrade mats and get currency you can trade for currency/exp among ither stuff.
When theres no event, im p sure just doing the highest of the daily stages available to you is the wqy to go
pog
mechanics yeah
EX+ OTK & NM90
Class: Glorybringer
Characters: S Galleon, Florence, Lyria, Katzelia, Tien
MH: Exo Pelion
Tiamat Bolt Omega 3x
Gateway-Star Sword
Spear of Renunciation
Abu Simbel (ATK)
Claiomh Solais Dion
Sword of Bahamut Coda
Ultima Sword
Summons: Beelzebub x Kaguya 4*
Belial | S Belial | Tiamat Omega | Judgement
Raphael | Wedges of the Sky
Rotation: Call Bubs, Galleon 1
with wind gw dropping later in the week that's what i'll be running for the first day or so
a nice 1b1s that works both in ex+ and nm90
or at least it should
if for w/e reason it fails in nm90 despite me damage testing it to work there, add mc 1
also my celestial sword isn't 4* yet; that'll be happening during gw
doing that will push it even higher
As a person with two younger sisters, can confirm

If I see it, delete it
REJECT YOUR HUMANITY JOJO
I REFUSE
the structure is basically slay the spire
you start with three operators at elite 1 max level (or lower, if your own copy is worse than that)
and then go through a number of floors (usually 5) where you go through nodes one after the other
these nodes are either combat encouters, stores, or some sort of event
during the journey you can recruit new operators from your own roster(and sometimes you can also choose to get a perfect copy of a randomly chose operator instead) orupgrade the operators you already have to elite 2 and collect relics to strengthen yourslef until you get to the final boss of the run
when a run is over you get points for a reward track and then that repeats ad infinitum
theres also special challenges where you start with a preset squad
and each of the is variation have their own littel gimmicks
for example, in the seaborn one you hev to keep your ligh on or go insane
overall tho, is required you to have a developed roster to make any real progress(unless youre doctor silvergun ig)
and theres no timegated rewards you miss out on, so id not concern myself much with it for now
tbf silvergun has a developed roster
(of 4* ops)
back when i was following arknights more he'd always make ambriel look like god
its an extremely fun mode to pass the time with bit the one fatal flaw is that you have to have operators raised in order to properly use them in it
like, im a freak who levels all operators so i dont ahve that problem
but itd be a perfect place to try out operators in that you havent raised yet to see how they play
i still remember the 4 star patriot clear
i think there's a few of them out there but he did a 5 op clear
(of the challenge mode)
Music Used: Arknights - Requiem
this was also from over 3 years ago, i'm sure something like this would be a lot easier nowadays
i mostly remember the only snipers one
also 5 ops
tho that was not cm
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um, well, er, uh,
yeah i got bad news for you
is there any recommended order for grabbing the pity nikkes if you don't yet have any of them?
i do have alice diary unlocked but haven't gotten far enough to get her free copy yet
liter > naga > alice imo
liter is the best general use B1 in the game
naga is one half of the best support duo in the game (other half is tia), and also the best support to run alongside crown if you ever get her
alice eventually becomes one of the best DPS in the game but that's after basically full investment in terms of gear and skills
still deliberating on that, but for now, got a gold mold to give me ein
these student nikkes make me feel like i'm playing blue archive
the name scheme of this group
so there's rei, ein, and zwei
so....why is rei zero in japanese instead of german?
took liter with the first pity
so i guess she just replaces dkw in most places i'm using her
also between ein and liter my missilis tower comp is looking a little less tragic
worth, ein is quite good
pretty sure her name is meant to part of "drei" actually. she's the oldest of the 3 despite appearances
pronounce it "rai"
perhaps but the ordering fucks with me
since rei is zero in japanese
and rei is also listed first in the group
whenever i get the next pity do i just take naga/alice then?
well i guess i'll have alice by then, i only need to clear chapter 11 for that
so naga
also an argument to focus on MLB'ing liter for 160 wall purposes but idk
ye
tho in that case wouldn't it be better to focus alice?
she is the dps of the group
regardless i think i'm just grabbing naga with the next one for collection
i'll worry about dupes from the third pick on
so uh is nikke youtube just not very good as a resource or something
like psycheie's bootcamp series looked decent enough but i'm also coming upon others who advocate using gems daily on things like wipeout
i only use gems to wipeout when one of the liberation missions requires it
and even then it's prolly stupid and not worth
but i don't think i ever used nikke youtube
i mean in basically every other game i play, using pull currency on shit that ain't pulling isn't worth
so i'd assume it's the same here
yarp
the one time i've used gems not for pulling in nikke so far was to get a few extra runs on the last event so i could clean out the shop of its tickets before teh event expired
which is like the only use case i can think of, since you use some pull currency to get more
and it wouldn't be a factor for anyone but someone who joined super late into an event's run anyway
i use gems on extra event runs in every event
hard mode 11 stage is worth repeating as many times as possible
so much core dust
oh also deleting the one folder actually ended up somewhat working
load time is still ass but it's noticeably less ass
normal levels of ass for load times are unfortunately expected from nikke
i think it's a result of their anticheat software
like a bunch of the time is still spent on a black screen before the prompts start showing up but now i'm not waiting 20 mins on the 5/7 hting
yeah that's expected, the 5/7 wait time was the unusual bit
ye
when's grave supposed to show her ass?
the 6th?
i have a bunch of pulls burning a hole in my inventory
(and probably won't even use that much of them right away either)
oh right so should i be using dolls on my best nikkes basically as i get them?
i know you lock the doll to that nikke once you equip it
but like, say i have a blue doll i can put on scarlet
if i get a purple doll later, i assume i can just put that one on her instead
or is there like an upgrade system for the dolls?
ya
lol wrong quote
meant to quote nov 6
all good
dolls do have an upgrade system, yes
separate from that, you can replace a blue doll with a purple doll any time you want, and the upgrade XP you spent on the blue doll will carry over to the purple
upgrading dolls costs maintenance materials which come in 3 types corresponding to their rarity and effectiveness: blue, purple, gold (surprise)
dolls have 15 levels, and each maintenance material has an associated "super success" chance that will get you to levels 5, 10, or 15 instantly (depending on what level you currently are, e.g. 4 will go to 5, 5 will go to 10, 11 will go to 15, etc)
upgrade materials are harder to come by than dolls, so optimizing how you use them is more useful in the long term
easiest way to explain how to do that is
start with a blue doll, use only blue maintenance mats to get it to level 15
then replace it with a purple doll. the carry over XP will get you to level 5 on the purple doll
use purple mats from 5->10, and gold mats at 10+
you'll earn dolls and maintenance mats slowly from daily dispatches (once you unlock them at higher levels of the tactical academy)
and once a month solo raid will come by and that gives lots of mats/dolls when you can full clear it
prioritize your damage nikkes for dolls first
ye
but eventually you'll have enough to put em on supports too
and upgrade them for supports
so i have an ar doll chilling out, i assume scarlet's my best target
still no noir for blanc rip
nowadays rouge is arguably better for blanc, especially if you have cinderella
but blanc wouldn't take prio for a doll anyway
would put it on scarlet or dorothy first, and if you're using scarlet for average content clearing then she's the move
we call this "suffering from success"
like i'm pretty sure all of isabel/dorothy/noah came from ordinary recruitment
scarlet was a free draw on the cindy banner lmao
truly insane early pull luck, you have a gift
it might be worth saving for the winter event since that's gonna have at least 6 limited characters to pull
and if you don't get em you get to wait til next year
even at the expense of grave?
tho idk how many pulls i'd put into her tbf
assuming i dont' rip her off a freebie
oh no definitely get at least one copy of grave
but that 3rd cindy dupe for MLB might be a casualty
hopefully the freebies are kind to me
personally i'm not spending any of my advanced vouchers on this event
i have enough pity tickets to just buy both cindy and grave
but you also have a more developed roster
all these vouchers are going to winter banners
problem with pilgrim banners is they're lower rate, so if there's any time to spend pity it's on them
ye, me and my whopping 40/200 gold mileage : ^)
laplace is playing everyone for fools, isn't she
||rigs an "accident" that blows up the bridge and separates the commander from the other squads, and tries to play innocent about it before having to bail and succeed in kidnapping the commander||
||or if not her, maxwell; drake feels way too obvious for it to be her||
new nikke CD key: 2YEARSANDCOUNTING
10 standard pull vouchers and some other goodies
Where do you enter it
Notice > CD Key Redemption Portal
might have to scroll down a tad
rolled the vouchers and got some tsundere maid
if you didn't already know, there's a ton of anni CD keys to redeem for lots of free goodies
you got maid privaty? lol, based and tsundere-pilled
huge
also its looking like miyabi wont be 1.4
weird. i think this is where we get ellen rerun
good cuz i joined too late to get ellen
ye, tho i'm struggling to figure out a decent comp for her right now
she's used in shotgun team iirc but you don't have a full enough roster for that
as-is she prolly doesn't crack your permanent lineup, but she's one of the best DPS units for elysion tower so there's that
ye
that said 160's probably gonna take me a while to break at this rate
even if i manage to grab another cindy dupe and go all in on rapunzel i'll still need 3 more, and i'm not getting any dupes just yet
there's a challenge (i think for getting your first nikke to 140) that gives a selector box that's redeemable for a dupe of any nikke (might have to be non-pilgrim but i don't honestly remember)
but i mean, statistically speaking when you have a small roster it's gonna be more likely that you get new nikkes over dupes
i'm aware
also, the standard pull pity tokens can be redeemed for dupes in the shop
ye so it's not all bad, but i imagine the game's much less generous with gems and tickets outside of anni and other special events
i'm just saying i can easily see a future where i'm stuck there for a while
definitely true, but it's still pretty generous
but being stuck at the wall is more common than not
and even if you immediately break it you'll be stuck for other reasons (namely a lack of resources)
Hopefully with all these free anni ssrs we’ll eventually get enough to make a fully uncapped team
Doesn’t matter how strong they actually are
finished chapter 11 so i've acquired the rabbity
damn, i'm just now noticing some of the details on the old tales event roaming map
like how there's an area ||littered with corpses, but if you wait for a bit you can see them flicker between rapture and human corpses, implying that while cinderella was corrupted she largely thought she was killing raptures||
||and that's definitely true of the "in the mirror" minigame--the messages on the loading screen are all the queen's whispers corrupting her, and the enemies you fight aren't actually raptures, that's just what cindy sees them as||
silly argor, you already had rabbity. it was you the whole time




