mamagi MLB also gave me the fleet tech for haku, finally, but i'm 80% done shimanto XP grind so i'ma just finish her first
#Gacha Chat
old galleon
finish shimanto first, yes
haku will take a bit to be usable and you have amagi to sub for her anyway
rapid bough
shimanto gonna take even longer to be usable lol, i have like 40 BPs for her vs 460 or so for haku
i'm still a fair while from shinano between needing to hit pity + MLB her, so my CV fleet is prolly gonna be avp/amagi/haku for a while
old galleon
that should be fine
rapid bough
any idea when PR6 is slated to receive catchup? sure would love 300 free shimanto BPs
simple wind
No idea, I didn’t keep up with who it was for JP
Signs seem to be pointing towards Mohawk cat
long tree
No idea, I didn’t keep up with who it was for JP
Signs *seem* to be pointing to...
I'm just gonna vote for whoever the Reddit says it is :3
I'm currently doing into the future and don't have any low cost anti black cats but I'm using this, should I put jack onto the team or leave as is
old galleon
any idea when PR6 is slated to receive catchup? sure would love 300 free shimant...
idk, but if i had to guess, take whenever pr5 gets or got its catchup and add a year
simple wind
I'm currently doing into the future and don't have any low cost anti black cats ...
Jack is prob cheap enough to be useful
If you have weightlifter/ring girl cat, she’s a beast
long tree
Nah I don't have weightlifter sadly
old galleon
so as far as what i could have gotten off of whispers of salt, this isn't that bad
16 more shadow for minalca as, i guess
(this is obv her ns form but light/shadow do apply to ns/as/es forms of the same character)
just 23 off of 80 now
rapid bough
idk, but if i had to guess, take whenever pr5 gets or got its catchup and add a ...
had to do some digging but it was apparently for the lunar new year event at the end of january
and pr4 catchup was added in feb of 2023, so that general time frame seems consistent
so still prolly 4-5 months away, rip
old galleon
if you finish fs5 shimanto by then, you can use it on felix if you're into her whole thing
flandre is good too but she has sr bb problems
runic ether
didnt expect them to be so... married lol
simple wind
Nah I don't have weightlifter sadly
i wouldn't worry about it too much
old galleon
second rainbow aa gun acquired
glad that's finally done with
also, the number of rainbow aa guns i have is equal to those which i have at +13
which might be a little overkill except probably not
just double checked, only one of my sextuple bofors is +13 so the second one's probably my next target
with four +13 aa guns i should be able to get away with the other two just being +10
mortal iron
day 0 xilonen set i have for her so far
slow raft
A second playable old woman has hit arknights
https://x.com/AK_CN_Shitpost/status/1841313050575732859 also other stuff ig
Twitter
patent swift
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/343107816388689920/1290872026759823372/...
Holy shit
simple wind
God I need to just farm the shit out of tickets
patent swift
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/343107816388689920/1290872026759823372/...
What's insane is that this is essentially two seperste moulds
Because base sam and ult sam have different chest/head designs
Unless they made them pieces
mortal iron
if firefly isnt pbandai, then they had a major bias against genshin
coz all genshin got was, late september's paimon and she was pbandai
patent swift
https://fxtwitter.com/amicoamiami/status/1841347322430791865
He's so peak...
I can't wait to start my firefly display with this fucker
Y'know unless good smile shadow drops that firefly 1/7 statue
Anyway can't wait to spend a kidney on buying a figuarts
slow raft
my goat will get ids soon enough
once its not his own canto anymore he can get back to getting ids of other sinners girlfriends
idle grove
if firefly isnt pbandai, then they had a major bias against genshin
they just like me fr
slow raft
finally go this done
disgustingly subpar performance
but itll do
soon i will have all slots filled with railway achievements
now onto cc
summer hornet
https://fxtwitter.com/amicoamiami/status/1841347322430791865
Beautiful
idle grove
Twitter
runic ether
sent some pulls towards lingsha
got gepard
never gonna use him
but
now i have guaranteed tingyun sp or sunday
ah shit i do have a very fat paycheck coming up...
i have 20 days to decide ig
long tree
How good is lingsha? I got e6 galagher if that matters
idle grove
must be a fat paycheck if you're going to whale 
runic ether
How good is lingsha? I got e6 galagher if that matters
more damage
less sp positive
like
she absolutely gaps him in damage
by a lot
i think genuinely
if u want
u just build her for dps
no boothill or firefly needed
e6 gallagher + lingsha + rm + hmc
gallagher sustain
lingsha dps
and the big reason i say this
is because e0 firefly
- e0 lingsha
are extremely sp inefficient
they will eat your sp hard
runic ether
shes abundance
look
e6 gallagher does around 500k damage per super break
lingsha does like 700k
at min investment
summer hornet
got gepard
Remembrance in DU?
runic ether
the more u go the more she does
my account is too invested
i have fx, aventurine, huohuo
patent swift
are *extremely* sp inefficient
I thought firefly ult doesn't take sp?
runic ether
she also doesnt gain sp
and lingsha if at all possible is clicking her skill
every single turn
this puts a ton of pressure on hmc + rm to keep up skill points
thats why gallagher still has a bit of an edge
per rotation in 10 turns, gallagher would generate 18 sp
lingsha generates 5
if that
the other use case for lingsha is she is bis for ratio if you dont have aventurine
summer hornet
Topaz LC and then I'll try to roll for Lingsha
runic ether
topaz lc before a new character?
gutsy
look as nice as lcs are, i think i'd rather have a wider roster, before lcs if im not literally 15/15 on the lc banner in the 1st 100 pulls
summer hornet
it's a bit of both sides for me
Topaz is good, has been good since I got her, and I want to get her better. Too many Hunt units, not enough LCs (Plus I lost on Kafka LC last banner lol)
runic ether
ah ur guaranteed
okay then go off
but
i still ask
do u want lingsha more
or a lc?
ur at e0 firefly?
summer hornet
E1 
runic ether
there is a legit argument that lingsha, while an upgrade, wont be massive
e1 actually has lingsha be a huge upgrade
enhanced skill no longer consuming skill points means lingsha gets to do her bs freely
summer hornet
True, she would be a big improvement in that area
And I'm pretty sure FF/TB/Lingsha/Gallagher is better than Sparkle in that setup
summer hornet
The price of my e1
summer hornet
summer hornet
I've used SW and Bailu in a few MoC stages
runic ether
sw too sure
firefly/hmc/asta or pela/lingsha
that being said
i would wait on rm
over lingsha
summer hornet
The issue is whether dropping Gallagher is higher priority than improving Topaz, I think
runic ether
sure, rm had a semi-recent rerun
summer hornet
Ah
runic ether
i would get topaz lc in your spot
bc ruan mei is just so much better than all other options
and we saw they are not shy on doing some wild banners
like the kafka/robin/swan banner
2.6 is looking mighty empty
just rappa
im betting we get another triple banner there
acheron, aven
boothill
maybe ff and rm?
summer hornet
Lmao
runic ether
bc shenhe has not been seen
in genshin
since
shit
covid times
neither has ganyu
summer hornet
Kaveh was gone for a long time, I know
runic ether
hoyo can and will leave a character off a banner for over 14 banners
mortal iron
remember when they reran yoimiya like 3 patches after her other rerun
runic ether
and how they reran robin like 2 patches after her original one
mortal iron
yoimiya was just not allowed to have a good banner placement for a while
yes likes put her banner with kazuha first rerun (which took a year)
and uh...yeah lets put her with nahida's debut
summer hornet
Oh yeah, Kazuha reran twice this year too
runic ether
i dont believe hoyo will think seele will sell well recently
i dont think we will get a seele rerun for a while
maybe in 2.7
summer hornet
3.0 special 
runic ether
also i will also warn against lingsha
it is possible that
a: ruan mei reruns
b: tingyun sp powercreeps hmc
you should have more than enough to guarantee new tingyun
for firefly
if you just pick up topaz lc for ratio
i think it'd be a bit of a feel bad moment if u get topaz lc, go for lingsha, 2.6 is announced with a rm rerun
who would be stronger overall to ff
and then when looking at new tingyun's kit and she just feels mandatory to ff over hmc
i dont think both are possible
but one of the 2 is
summer hornet
A good point
runic ether
rm doesnt rerun yet but tingyun is so absurdly broken for ff that she's mandatory
or tingyun is broken but not for ff, but we have a rm rerun
summer hornet
I'll go for Topaz LC (I have Topaz, after all), and then wait to see what the next patch looks like
runic ether
you have 20 days for lingsha yep
gives you time to see whats up in 2.6
its rappa for sure
but maybe another triple banner?
who knows
maybe its acheron/boothill/silver wolf
maybe theres no triple banner
maybe its just rappa wolf
boothill/acheron
runic ether
its too easy to run that banner that im convinced these characters will be the ones to show up on rate up
on the flipside
they are just now running lingsha
why not sell her 2 premium dps characters in boothill and firefly?
and her premium support ruan mei
maybe incites ppl more bc tingyun sp is coming soon and she may/may not be insane for multiple characters listed
as well as sunday for the same reason
long tree
I’m just happy there’s going to be another break patch for me
long tree
Gonna try and save up for when robin reruns but other than that the new ty idm
runic ether
but after that, they are going to go into summons
long tree
If Sunday does end up joining the stellaron hunters I’ll be free of having to get every stellaron hunter because I am not pulling for him 💀
runic ether
sunday is going to be the most broken support according to super early leaks
patent swift
Wtf what did my boy do
runic ether
hes going to be 4 star tingyun but even stronger
long tree
Wtf what did my boy do
Be a cardboard cutout of a villain
runic ether
sunday was the antagonist. hes not a villain?
the reading comprehension devil strikes even outside of csm
long tree
sunday was the antagonist. hes not a villain?
I use the words interchangeably
patent swift
I think sunday's plan was unjustified but that makes sense, he was essentially groomed into it
long tree
As soon as Sunday started talking his madara maruki shit I checked out
long tree
I think sunday's plan was unjustified but that makes sense, he was essentially g...
I do not care
patent swift
Then don't complain about it 
idle grove
truly the least biased story reader
runic ether
One day, after dinner, while my younger sister and I were lounging about in Mr. Gopher Wood's yard, we spotted a fledgling Charmony Dove all on its own. That baby bird was tiny, it didn't even have all of its feathers, and it couldn't sing. When we found it, it was already on its last breath, having fallen into a shrub — probably abandoned by its parents. We decided to build a nest for it right there and then. However, thinking back, that winter was unusually cold, with fierce winds at night in the yard, not to mention the many poisonous bugs and wild beasts in the vicinity... It was clear that if we left the fledgling in the yard, it stood no chance of surviving until spring. So, I suggested we take it inside, place it on the shelf by the window, and asked the adults to fashion a cage for it. We decided that when it regained its strength enough to spread its wings, we would release it back into the wild. The tragic part — something that we'd never considered — was that this bird's fate had already been determined long before this moment... Its destiny was determined by our momentary whim. Now, I pass the power of choice to you all. Faced with this situation, what choice would you make? Stick to the original plan, and build a nest with soft net where the Charmony Dove fell? Or build a cage for it, and feed it, giving it the utmost care from within the warmth of a home? I eagerly await your answer.
patent swift
THE DOVE WAS A GOOD PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE
runic ether
look, i agree with you that penacony did have a weaker ending but sunday was not the issue in the last half of the story
long tree
THE DOVE WAS A GOOD PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE
It's the most surface level authoritarian talking point ever
God I hope I used that word right
patent swift
No you (mostly) did
long tree
To equate a dove in a cage to the human condition is a comparison that has been going on forever
And it barely applies if you think about it for more than five seconds
long tree
Then don't complain about it <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
I'm complaining about Sunday, I do not care that he was groomed to believe in his madara maruki nonsense
long tree
truly the least biased story reader
I love my agendas
patent swift
The context is like half the fucking story 😭
The point is that his philosophy is wrong
long tree
The _point_ is that his philosophy is wrong
And it's a point made by a million other characters
I'm sick of it
old galleon
Mr. Gopher Wood
how very subtle
long tree
It's every damn time they want to make a free will analogy in a jrpg
old galleon
yeah exactly
patent swift
I forget the exact thing
old galleon
it's also one of lucilius's special attacks in granblue
idle grove
it's what the ark is made out of right
old galleon
yup
long tree
At best Sunday is either a character that falls into an archetype I dislike heavily or is a puppet for the same talking points
I need to do like a hsr antagonists tier list
summer hornet
Let's start another war, why not
old galleon
azur lane secretary tier list
patent swift
Cocolia still stands as my favourite
runic ether
I need to do like a hsr antagonists tier list
ranking sunday low just cus u dislike him automatically lets me discard ur opinion at least
summer hornet
Feixiao is defo on the lower end, in terms of both mechanics and music
long tree
ranking sunday low just cus u dislike him automatically lets me discard ur opini...
I feel like I wouldn't mind if he at least had more time
I don't mind maruki from persona 5, I'm not huge on him but like
summer hornet
I don't like how Phantyllia was the final boss for Luofu but her music goes way too hard
runic ether
Feixiao is defo on the lower end, in terms of both mechanics and music
feixiao boss theme is top tier
cus it fits
long tree
Bronya is cocolia, huohuo is the spirit dude from that event err
Fuck I forgot who caelus was supposed to represent
Wait no he's sunday
runic ether
maybe dont use stand-ins and use the actual bosses
long tree
I can't find a tier list that has them
patent swift
Ruan mei top tier???
runic ether
long tree
I mean I'm not talking objectively this is just my opinion
runic ether
i want to say we can respect opinions but man
long tree
Honestly I could just be bias about how it gave ratio a lot of time to shine
Second thought put her in B
old galleon
so it's not just "she's hot"
long tree
No it's ratios hot and also an insanely fun character
I honestly don't find her very attractive personally
Mainly not a fan of the whole cold distant demeanor
I should probably put silver wolf in B too? Mainly just because her event was funny?
Err that one guy from the capitalism event who we make bark like a dog can go in B too
Honestly Ive warmed to topaz as a character a lot
runic ether
scott
long tree
That's the one
summer hornet
Did he have a boss fight??
runic ether
nope
long tree
Nah this is just antagonists
summer hornet
Oh lol
runic ether
i actually dont know what jot is cooking cus theres like so many different characters missing
and so many questionable adds
huohuo/tail were never antagonistic
neither was sparkle or jade
neither was ruan mei
long tree
Huohuo is a standout for the spirit dude from that event
Sparkle was a fake out antagonist up until the very end, so I count it unlike gahalger who was a fake out
runic ether
gonna need to be specific about spirit dude
no she was never a fakeout antag
sparkle was upfront and honest about the entire situation
runic ether
she told us what the bombs would be
killing ppl isnt an antag trait
or else the whole express would be
long tree
Innocents then, and with them in the ship
runic ether
so stelle/caelus is an antag
long tree
killing ppl isnt an antag trait
She said it in a way that literally everyone misinterpreted
Intentionally
long tree
so stelle/caelus is an antag
She was an active threat in the story she was a part of in the perspective of the main character
That's an antagonist
runic ether
a misleading threat if that when she gives us an active warning about many situations and guides us towards the right place and then sets up an event to bond with firefly at the end
sparkle was hired directly by silver wolf to help the stellaron hunters and to ensure that firefly didnt ever actually die
long tree
People who were nice before can be antagonistic later
runic ether
a red herring is barely an antag
long tree
sparkle was hired directly by silver wolf to help the stellaron hunters and to e...
And we as the character don't know that until the end
long tree
a red herring is barely an antag
runic ether
by this metric, acheron and black swan are antags
and aventurine is missing in your list
so is boothill
and gallagher
long tree
I mean aventurine would be in S
Gallagher was never antagonistic to the protagonist though, they never tried to present their actions as malicious
There was a fake out scene as a cliffhanger
That's about all the "bad" he does
runic ether
except as a history fictionologist his entire demeanor is like sparkle's but worse
long tree
Hes also not a real person so like
runic ether
he was
long tree
Whatever he does in that space is going to be built on a lie
He could breathe and it wouldn't be truthful
runic ether
so then as a result he gets a pass as not an antag but sparkle doesnt?
in the same way that acheron + black swan have had antagonistic points
long tree
Deception =/= antagonist, deception in order to make a threat towards the main character does
runic ether
for all we knew even, black swan directly betrayed us to aventurine too
acheron killed us to start penacony lol
long tree
acheron *killed* us to start penacony lol
Fine then she can go on the list at like
C tier
I'm not arguing about her
runic ether
all in all ur entire list is inconsistent and incomplete though
its ur list but like lol
long tree
I'm trying to remember shit I played months ago with a condition that gives me extreme memory loss I'm trying 
summer hornet
Tbf I actually remember Ruan Mei's Myriad Celestia more than her character trailer
So that's a bit unfair of me
long tree
This better?
runic ether
no not really
still missing a lot. still including weird inclusings
its ur list tho
dont need to validate it against others
long tree
Who am I forgetting?
runic ether
https://tiermaker.com/create/honkai-star-rail-character-trailers-up-to-21-115162...
i'd put feixiao top of a i think
long tree
I still need to see her trailers
I forgot blade and Sam I just realised
and Kafka bro my brain is cooked
Honestly in hindsight I think your right misty I need to narrow my view on what makes an antagonist otherwise my list is like half the characters 💀
dull bridge
https://tiermaker.com/create/honkai-star-rail-character-trailers-up-to-21-115162...
you can tell which ones i actuaslly liked because i rememberd them enough to tier them
the rest were forgettable
althoguht i kinda wanna watch all of them now
rewatch
summer hornet
Lmfao crikey that's painful
Definitely Rewatch them
And watch the ones you haven't seen
dull bridge
i just remember i absolutely LOVED acherons
jiaoqiu mabye a teier thinking about it more
runic ether
as cooked as jot is, areo is somehow more cooked
long tree
I at least have the excuse of a health condition, brain rot and being a dbz fan
long tree
It do be like that
slow raft
https://x.com/AK_CN_Shitpost/status/1841313050575732859 also other stuff ig
Just noticed her new operator name
Time for the national anthem
https://youtu.be/9eQ4lhZsJBw?si=tMiIGI-YiT4-KAWz
dull bridge
and remembered how incredibly that trailer was
summer hornet
Blade too
slow raft
lotsa a knights in my gachas recently
first ishmael get proper armor and now seiba two
summer hornet
Just noticed her new operator name
Time for the national anthem
https://youtu.be...
Wouldst thou be willing to enlighten me on the name?
summer hornet
🙏
slow raft
also neat degenbrecher skin
summer hornet
My phone is a molten reactor core rn
slow raft
oh right, youre still recovering, arent you?
summer hornet
Aye lol
slow raft
Just noticed her new operator name
Time for the national anthem
https://youtu.be...
sometimes i forget how good arknights music is
sigh, time to listen to the playlist again
im doing cc anyways
runic ether
thats still not hector
honest pawn
he's the better hector anyways
long tree
God damn my eye sight
long tree
he's the better hector anyways
Blasphemous
slow raft
sigh, time to listen to the playlist again
https://vxtwitter.com/HiImReizy/status/1840209667064246416 me listening to my unsorted arknights playlist
long tree
All of these cool themes just for me to cheese the stages with the broken units
slow raft
My harvest is plentiful and my fields are fertile, praise be
runic ether
bro this is like over a year old
glossy latch
Oh come on
Lost the 50/50
Another Bailu >.>
... shes already C2 what the fuck
My Clara isnt even C2 and shes at least good
glossy latch
Thats who I was aiming for
At least Moze is a decent replacement and Ive got him at E4
runic ether
thats kind of a shame tho
yea moze is good but like
topaz is fun too
topaz/moze is a fun team
glossy latch
Yeah but what can I do, Ive lost the 50/50 on Topaz twice now
runic ether
thats so cursed
are u aiming for rappa?
like at least u have the guarantee for whoever u want next
glossy latch
I was going to, but idk if I can get enough rolls by then, and idk if I really care enough
glossy latch
Definitely dont care for the 2.7 lineup tbh
runic ether
weird
thats also fair
may be just a time to wait for 3.0
they are going to be going into summons as the next theme
how the 2.x patches have been superbreak and fua
glossy latch
Screwllum in 3.0 trust 🙏
runic ether
3.x seems to be gearing into being summons
eventually
apparently he's coming along with a 5 star herta in the 3.x patches
and i wonder if the reason hes taken so long is that he went from fua -> summon
runic ether
i hope that whatever they are doing with summons will actually be fun though
wispy goblet
Twitch is having another ZZZ drops campaign
torn harbor
+ e0 lingsha
Having both
Honestly it's not that sp inefficient
Since you start with both Ruan mei and lingsha's charges at 3 before the battle starts and the faster the lingsha the more sp positive she becomes as the charges are used independently from her own attacks
runic ether
runic ether
i could have gone higher
honest pawn
Very knight coded day for me
nice ishmael pull
honest pawn
nice ishmael ROBBERY
slow raft
Twitter
honest pawn
don's canto is gonna hit different
honest pawn
I think the cantos that are gonna hit the hardest are gonna be ryoshu's and mersault's
levels of fucked up people didn't even know was possible
slow raft
im confident meursaults canto is gonna move me to the core
that little frenchmans story is gonna have me bawling, i just know it
tho hes already my number 2 sinner so my opinion of him wont soar that much higher
honest pawn
the stranger is such an interesting book and even though I fundamentally don't agree with the premise of absurdism I hope Mersault's canto delivers
slow raft
also for sure we are gonna have another freischütz ego in his canto, which i need desperately
old galleon
finally finished drake fs5 and now i have way more protocore than i know what to do with
old galleon
i guess if nothing else i can use them to buy trashcan prints if i ever decide i want to craft a third or fourth rainbow aa gun
otherwise i really can't think of a good use for them right now
summer hornet
So now Silver Wolf has to deal with two Trailblazer simps instead of one lol, that's cute
summer hornet
Twitter
runic ether
this would be peak
idle grove
Twitter
long tree
Who would win
The next prodigal swordmaster of the Loufu
World's most delayed puberty 50 ish year old
runic ether
i have a feeling huohuo is stunted also bc of tail
glossy latch
Supposed leak for Genshin: ||Apparently Capitano has an NPC ID||
||... they made him a twink and then didnt even bother making him playable? Cmon||
runic ether
to clarify
||its likely for a capitano boss fight like childe||
||he has a pc model and sheet so we know he'll be playable... but not in 5.x most likely which is a shame. its leading some credence to the old leaks that its gonna be columbina that is playable soon not capitano since some leakers are saying "his true power is more akin to dainsleif"||
||which is to say like dainsleif, he wont use the element system of genshin at all||
||aka most likely a playable until after or nearing 7.x||
runic ether
||probs a cryo delusion||
||actually. we can confirm its a cryo delusion since capitano has no vision on him at all in his model so far.||
glossy latch
||I kinda doubt that because he feels like the kinda character who wouldnt use a delusion||
||Plus arent delusions fixed in strength?||
runic ether
||nope. arlecchino uses a pyro delusion over her vision when she transforms for her boss form and we know childe was fighting the narwhal with his electro one for a month||
glossy latch
I see
runic ether
||that said, i do think he wouldnt. but the ending of 5.0 story with capitano discussing things with ororon about his injury and running out of time makes me think that capitano has some pressing time limit to saving himself/natlan||
glossy latch
||Im still disappointed he wasnt powerless and able to keep up through his own strength, thatd be cooler tbh||
runic ether
||might be less a case of "wouldnt use one" to "has to use one for now"||
||theories of capitano being a reborn xblanque, the old master of the night kingdom, a descender, dragon etc etc etc all can feel more real if the fall of natlan/night kingdom is the reason hes getting weaker or dying and he has vested interest in saving natlan||
||im actually a lot more curious about ororon. he... may be the 10th harbinger. or at least, theres some things u can key in on that being the case||
glossy latch
||Why do you think thats the case? The way Capitano talked to him sounds more like he was just a collaborator||
runic ether
||someone posted a whole thread about how ororon has the makings and markings of one of the fatui symbols on the wheel and its possible that the reason we havent seen anything else about the 10th is bc its ororon stuck in natlan since the ppl of natlan need permission of their wayob to leave, and they still arent in a good spot leaving||
glossy latch
||Also a 4* harbinger feels wrong lmao||
glossy latch
||Yeah but not Harbingers||
runic ether
||not exactly harbingers but we do know that not all harbingers are tiered for their power||
||pantalone is said to be mostly useless in terms of power but he is so incredibly wealthy||
||its possible ororon is less raw power and more has a ton of utility||
||which with the abilities he displayed to escape can point to hes there for exactly espionage||
like
||it feels like some harbingers are like, the same as a higher tiered one but more specific||
||ie, childe's a super strong warrior but arle, columbina, and capitano are also that so... 11th cus he doesnt bring too much else to the table||
||or how ororon would be good for espionage but arle does this already but shes also a powerhouse and a proper diplomat||
||i have a feeling signora is like a mini-columbina||
glossy latch
Hmm
||Idk it still feels odd, especially since 5* are more a reflection of status than strength||
runic ether
yeah kinda
that said
||remember that we havent heard anything about a 10th harbinger before||
||i think its also possible he gets promoted to harbinger status and that the old 10th was still crepus||
glossy latch
||Was Crepus being a harbinger confirmed?||
long tree
It’s funny cause as the power scaling stands it’s hard to imagine a harbinger stronger than arleccino
runic ether
||the fact that crepus had a delusion he intended to give to diluc, and he had seemingly had fatui after crepus eventually means he may have betrayed the group||
runic ether
It’s funny cause as the power scaling stands it’s hard to imagine a harbinger st...
from raw power we only know capitano and columbina are stronger
long tree
Capitano ||going toe to toe with the pyro archon herself|| was very impressive
Granted ||she’s weakened but still||
runic ether
ah on that other theory
runic ether
||dottore is higher ranking cus of his vast scientific knowledge. hes like sandrone but way smarter/more versatile||
||the top 3 are all capable of matching archons but i think arle reasonably pushes to that level too given her brazen attempt at furina's life + her power set being tied so closely to a khaenrian dynasty||
long tree
Honestly all the harbingers that have interacted with the archons have put up good showings
runic ether
||so its more like the top 3 can definitely take on archons. 4th -> 8th can reasonably interact against archons||
long tree
Arle was constantly ahead of all of the goings on in Fontaine
She knew the buttons to push and absolutely dominated any conversation even with nevu present
glossy latch
But yeah idk, Im not huge on Capitano right now, I wish he was more like what he seemed originally
long tree
Dottore had nahida backed into a corner which is insane
runic ether
But yeah idk, Im not huge on Capitano right now, I wish he was more like what he...
fs
he should have been huge
😭
long tree
Him being a twink is so disappointing
glossy latch
Mavuika ... other than the bike thing Im not entirely understanding is cool though
long tree
I can’t take him seriously now
runic ether
the way clorinde's button struggle holding onto her shirt, i wanted that for capitano
runic ether
I can’t take him seriously now
ok like
glossy latch
My only guess with Capitano is that its a cultural difference thing
runic ether
he is bigger than the other genshin men
hes bigger than wrio
who is the current "biggest" man in genshin
long tree
He’s not big enough though
glossy latch
Especially given he uses a sword and appears to be using a chinese style of swordfighting
glossy latch
So its strength as an ideal from a more chinese view perhaps?
runic ether
Especially given he uses a sword and appears to be using a chinese style of swor...
mhm
cultivation tales
long tree
Yeah Chinese view of strength leans heavily on the modesty of character and build
glossy latch
(Chinese being a general standin because I dont remember the exact region the style corresponds to)
long tree
It’s why zhongli is how he is
runic ether
the way he holds his sword and all
and his thrusts and parries
its an asian-chinese style
idr what it was though
but yea
capitano if made here, would be a massive man
but bc hes from china, hes a more humble, soft-spoken and slender man
long tree
He was the pinnacle of strength and thus he has the long hair, the slim frame, the modesty of his technique (often being shown to do things without effort)
runic ether
yea
thats capitano too
his fight against mauvika
||was extremely apparent about it. he basically was winning the entire fight effortlessly||
glossy latch
Oh yeah now that I think about it, ZZZ is a lot more western in its aesthetic huh
runic ether
||the final blows they exchanged, he stood up to keep going||
long tree
Oh yeah now that I think about it, ZZZ is a lot more western in its aesthetic hu...
It’s a mix imo
runic ether
Oh yeah now that I think about it, ZZZ is a lot more western in its aesthetic hu...
and flanderized asian aesthetics
like billy and his obsession of henshin
or furries being present
and most of the women being tall or taller
long tree
The most cat like cat girl
long tree
I think what is affecting Hoyoverse right now is silhouette fatigue, zzz is better at it due to the diverse setting but
runic ether
ehh its fine
it was a real problem during early hsr
when like
jingliu, hanya, and ruan mei are all wearing similar-ish qipao's
glossy latch
like billy and his obsession of henshin
Eh, wouldnt call that flanderised exactly
long tree
I do appreciate that Genshin is now making the visualisation of the natlan characters different through the loud and neon colouring though
runic ether
bc of how billy has seemingly much deeper to himself
he just actively avoids it
using comedy to distract
glossy latch
Like there are still definitely asian influences
glossy latch
Like the maid aesthetic of ... I forgor their name
long tree
Like the maid aesthetic of ... I forgor their name
Gonna have to be specific we have 3 playable female maids
glossy latch
God wtf is the name of the horror-themed faction
runic ether
victoria housekeeping
glossy latch
Yeah them
long tree
Lycaon was a slam dunk
runic ether
yea its a very asian trope
glossy latch
That's a much more asian aesthetic now (ironically)
runic ether
maid/butler assassins
glossy latch
In particular the battle maid aspect
runic ether
it is pretty banger
i think the big thing about zzz is that each character's model is unique
which lets their silhouettte's stand out
long tree
It’s likely cause they’re not standardising the animations
Like with Genshin regional weaponry arts walking and climbing animations etc
long tree
Oh I didn’t know that neat
runic ether
each character having impact frames on their ult
that flash billy has
is hand drawn
but then how zzz presents the story is also comic book style
not manga
comics
long tree
It’d be nice if they could add more animation uniqueness to the previous Hoyoverse games but it’s a lot of effort for not a lot of reward
runic ether
they have been better at it in genshin
like with mualani, kinich
a lot of the newer 4 and 5 stars look great
the biggest limiter in genshin is that they have to follow their model rules for player characters
runic ether
keqing ult
this is cool
like actually
its really good
but its been totally powercrept
long tree
Honestly while I like the windup to the ult for chloride more I don’t think the actual effect is as good
glossy latch
Realistically the animations are and have been perfectly fine, its the lack of variety in character designs and silhouettes that bother me
long tree
Which is fine it’s different focus
runic ether
Realistically the animations are and have been perfectly fine, its the lack of v...
mhm
its just how genshin is coded
pc models need to fit a mold
and they are adding more molds
long tree
Please can we have a diluc model update I like that man too much to have him be this alien man
runic ether
but im gonna go out on a limb that its not ready at all nor easy at all to do so
runic ether
Please can we have a diluc model update I like that man too much to have him be ...
they did
pay $50 for it
long tree
runic ether
long tree
I’ll just wait until china complains about something about him and we get a censored skin
runic ether
also another part to the crepus is 10th harbinger
long tree
https://tenor.com/view/diluc-diluc-genshin-impact-genshin-impact-diluc-skin-dilu...
He has a nose!
runic ether
he has a fire outfit not just figuratively
no like actually this skin is insanely good
uhh that said
a few characters do need model updates
childe's model looks old
during arle's story quest when hes next to her
u can really see it
patent swift
they have a lot of hand drawn frames in zzz
Oh that's cool
Kinda wish star rail had its animations changed up
long tree
Gotta love a good impact frame
patent swift
Like they're good (especially alot of the 2.x ones) but they feel sorta eh
long tree
Just remembered that one piece had an impact frame that had the text “smoking on dat big mom pack”
patent swift
There's no way
long tree
patent swift
long tree
Another impact frame from the same animator from the same arc says I love macaroni in Arabic
patent swift
Oh my god it actually says that
mental acorn
||holy FUCK|| arknights 12-6 idk at what point to start spoiling story content but this seems pretty good
old galleon
spoiling that is probably appropriate; i think only you and guy are at chapter 12
i'm still in ch 10, haven't really played arknights as seriously in a bit
(i don't personally care much about spoilers but others might)
rapid bough
these new investigator training courses against the doppelgangers are without a doubt the dumbest fights in ZZZ
this shit took years off my goddamn life
idk who thought it was a good idea to make you play one of those fights with what felt like the "longer dodge CD" corruption but i need to find them and make them suffer
old galleon
should be one more round of 12-4 away from getting ibuki
so i'm finally almost done with that
no more pr exp grinding until next year
i'll still need about 2 months to fs5 her and neptune combined, but that's fine
rapid bough
how long have you been playing AL? i'm consistently surprised by you not having ships like ibuki and drake (a few months back) unlocked lol
old galleon
i'm a launch player
rapid bough
with occasional breaks i assume
old galleon
chalk me not having all the pr's to this point up to some extended hiatuses prior to like 2021, as well as sheer laziness at not wanting to do the grind for the pr1 ones in particular
remember as well, prior to whenever they made that change, you needed the exact hull type for grinding
so you needed battleships for monarch, cruisers for roon, etc
old galleon
it was
rapid bough
while i do like azur lane now it sounds like it was a complete and utter mess and extremely tedious to play for years after launch
old galleon
ye there's been a ton of qol over the years
rapid bough
i hear this was manjuu's first gacha and they made a ton of amateur mistakes in development
old galleon
yeah that wouldn't surprise me
rapid bough
but i guess 7+ years of maintenance and experience (and user feedback) have helped a lot
old galleon
but they still generate a bunch of goodwill bc
- they actually somewhat listen to the playerbase
runic ether
idk who thought it was a good idea to make you play one of those fights with wha...
the whole mode is quite easy at least
old galleon
2. they cater really well to the playerbase
runic ether
tests your knowledge on parry windows
and it gives so much exp rewards and such
quite a nice little event
rapid bough
i didn't feel like my knowledge was being tested, i felt like the game was throwing endless attacks at me and i didn't have the resources to even react to them
runic ether
it got my billy + nicole to level 60 finally
rapid bough
it's honestly insane how unresponsive the game feels with that dodge CD
runic ether
uhh did you run caesar? she solos
rapid bough
no lol, i don't have caesar at 60
rapid bough
not in the doppelganger fights i've done so far
rapid bough
those have all been cunning hares trials
rapid bough
don't have enough time to do her full combo between all the dodges and parries, and doppelganger jane just builds up her counter right on time for anby's EX in her combo
runic ether
anby has ways to get perfect i-frames and her run anims will block the bullets
then doppel jane just spam ult lol
rapid bough
well yeah i did as much as i could, but i was using trial nicole/billy/anby and there was a whole lot of damage i had to do without ult
but jane was the less annoying part
runic ether
the trick here is to spam anby
rapid bough
the start with the 3 vanquisher doppelgangers made me want to physically hurt the ZZZ dev that implemented it
runic ether
spamby
rapid bough
anby felt like shit since i couldn't find the time to do 3 basics + hold basic + EX
runic ether
dont do the combo
rapid bough
and the fucking dodge CD meant i couldn't spam her amazing dodge counter
runic ether
bellum and pulchra have aggro points
that are very easy to exploit into dodge counters
i think this one is actually easier as a duo than a trio
unless your billy is as cracked as mine
rapid bough
i was just using the trial characters so no
none of my cunning hares other than nicole are leveled/kitted
rapid bough
that are very easy to exploit into dodge counters
yeah i'm sure it gets easier once you know the fights and mobs lol
and the previous fights of this type were easy
the addition of the dodge CD for the level 65 one made it infinitely more frustrating
rapid bough
i went into it expecting to spam dodge and win like the last ones
runic ether
get caesar leveled up to like 40 or so
i miscalced the needed exp and stuff for her and i was runnning her at like level 30 and cleared the latest shiyu defense
shes really strong
rapid bough
i'm watching my dennies go down and down and down 😭
idt i'ma have enough for caesar after finishing my nicole/zhu/qingyi comp
still need to get jane and seth up to snuff too
rapid bough
my favorite part of the new event is the free XP nodes lol
since once i hit IK 50, getting nicole/zhu/qingyi to 60 burned all my agent XP mats
and i've been short on them ever since
XP nodes helping me get some progress on jane/seth/caesar for free
old galleon
and the deed is done
rapid bough
old galleon
i'm free of pr exp hell until next year
but i'm still nowhere near out of fleet tech hell
runic ether
XP nodes helping me get some progress on jane/seth/caesar for free
yea its so nice
i've been finishing up characters that i had been wanting to get done
i have now nearly 4 teams fully ready and kitted
rapid bough
meanwhile me with one single team at 60 and only zhu yuan has even a reasonable (if not optimal) disk set lol
what are the best caesar teams anyway
(with the understanding that she's good literally anywhere)
runic ether
literally everywhere
and anywhere
excellent buffs, great defensive utility, good stun
rapid bough
how does she work as the third member with jane/seth? since that's 99% jane with the 1% occasional block assist from seth to get his shield on jane
does it become 98% jane with 1% seth and 1% caesar for both of their shields lol
runic ether
its like fine
rapid bough
asking mostly because i have 3 characters at 60 (nicole/zhu/qingyi) and 2 at 50+ (jane/seth) so throwing caesar into that feels easiest and the least investment
runic ether
shes more like a seth replacement ultimately but she works fine
we are still waiting for the truly ideal 2nd off field anomaly character
to work with jane
piper
grace
and yanagi too since she decided to be on-field
burnice too
rapid bough
burnice/grace seem the closest so far since at least they can do their thing with relatively minimal field time
rip burnice off field nerfs tho
so assuming caesar replaces seth, who's the ideal third with jane/caesar/? right now?
rapid bough
side note, when it comes to leveling characters, is there a point where you say "good enough" and pivot away from the exponentially increasing cost to just get another character up to snuff? and in what order do you level all the different shit there is to level?
i've been following the general priority of agent level > w-engine level > core skill > important skills to 11 > other skills to at least 7, preferably 9
runic ether
10-11 and then go on to the next
unless its super vital
like nicole core passive
or caesar core passive
those you max
you can usually leave them at level e
and then 10-11
rapid bough
aight that's basically what i've been doing so at least that's good
just goddamn
i want to fill out disk sets too since getting those right is actually an insane powerspike
but no energy to spare on cleanup ops
runic ether
they arent actually that big
besides getting good main stats
and on-set stuff
a lot of characters give themselves a ton of stats for free
rapid bough
i've only spent the time getting a reasonable set of level 15 S disks for zhu yuan so far but i definitely noticed a significant difference in her damage afterward
prolly varies per character
should prolly pull more at bardic needle too i guess
i don't use that shop nearly enough lol
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rapid bough
tried to do doppelganger jane fight with jane
never again
i literally cannot tell what is happening
copper steppe
das conkcreet baybee
runic ether
i literally cannot tell what is happening
however much the ballet twins fight is a dance, jane is tango
long tree
https://i.imgur.com/vfBtVgn.jpeg
Me remembering someone out there probably went to pity for nictoris alter
glossy latch
Ok finally reached level 50 in ZZZ
Still no second 5* 😔
Hoping for Grace or Soldier 11
runic ether
good choices
glossy latch
Grace for Anton, Soldier 11 for Lighter (Im not getting Burnice)
runic ether
the one thing i'd wait on is seeing lighter's multipliers. possible that hes the main dps despite being a stunner
rapid bough
however much the ballet twins fight is a dance, jane is tango
ballet twins are infinitely easier than doppel jane
but specifically doppel jane when you're using jane is a goddamn mess
i can't tell which attacks are mine and which are hers half the time lol
rapid bough
dev30 agir get, spoiling b/c idk if agir base art has too much booba
wonder when she's getting fs
glossy latch
the one thing i'd wait on is seeing lighter's multipliers. possible that hes the...
We still dont have them?
runic ether
not the final ones
beta changes still happen
like burnice's off field mults were gutted infort
*unfort
she still does lingering burn
but it runs out faster
mortal iron
This will go crazy eventually
runic ether
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mental acorn
https://x.com/MiracleNowan/status/1840771056887275683
the rrat in my back pocket:
idle grove
slow raft
a second zwei sinclair id has hit limbus company
ig were gonna have to call this one vierclair
slow raft
and it looks like the pass egos are carmilla lasso and hexnail
a shame, i like hexnail
honest pawn
I hope when don gets a (000) walpurgis ID that it's an ||elena|| ID
honest pawn
||yuri, the only id she ever gets||
slow raft
😔
honest pawn
https://vxtwitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1842143601930965128
I just realized that's mersault in the cinq outfit
awaugh
the French guy finally gets his musketeer outfit
summer hornet
glossy latch
I dont even have Topaz
old galleon
after about 3,000 years i finally have all of his detonators
so i never have to touch timetwisted maze again
old galleon
took a few runs to figure out the rotation but it worked well enough bc ewan and minalca as are degenerate scum
old galleon
another ewan-based run, trait requirement on this one is really rough but ewan sa makes it much more doable
party bonus reqs are cursed or minstrel
it's actually much harder than it should be to build a reasonable team out of this, and nearly impossible non-gacha
some of the astral archive challenge fights are just like that, tho
that said if i had tsukiha stellar awakened this would have been a lot more damage
in the first place i'd use a katana bearer for her instead of a bow bearer for parisa
but also she's just stupid
yeah some of these fights have random combinations of traits
like the beast king guildna challenge fight wants royalty or beast
time layer distortion wants kms+machinery, which wouldn't have been so bad if it also wanted earth, but nope
machinery is especially brutal bc it's literally just the 3* robots and maybe a couple other units
hm
actually now that i think about it, post-rebalance, guildna and altena are both decent
tsukiha counts as royalty
i might be able to do something with this
for guildna at least
time layer ain't happening, fuck that
geo anguirus wants geo and spirit talker
fuckin lmao
here is the complete list of characters i have with at least one of those traits
fuck all the way off
old galleon
i have cracked the code
but still fuck this fight
needed 179,802,000 to finish points ladder, so this was cutting it real close
the one bit of mercy is that the points requirement on this one is real low
(probably bc they knew the party requirements were bullshit and no one was gonna do them)
meanwhile, at a fight where party requirements aren't as bad
late canopy
versed pawn
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glossy latch
Man, the last ascension hurdle is painful
It takes forever to get 6 max rarity gems
runic ether
are u on world level 9?
its actually way easier with wl9 now
unless u got really unlucky
glossy latch
Well Im at level 57 soooo
runic ether
damn
