Gacha Chat

[runic ether]

story is one that does get better as time goes on. hoyo shows they can build up some good narratives and stories

but i think the characters hit better if u were fan of the aforementioned

big flcl/klk/p&s vibes and if u didnt care/watch those, then u wont fully vibe w the characters

[glossy latch]

They can, but ZZZs story feels oddly ... aimless rn?

It's just establishing more and more factions while not really sticking with one long enough

[runic ether]

i've liked the presence that other factions keep pushing the phaethon faction to the next and such but yea i am curious as to how they tie it together

spending time on set up is fine ig

but yea i'll be curious as to what the big moment for zzz will be

where hsr and genshin spend a lot longer per patch and cycle on a grander narrative, zzz so far is happy just letting things be kind of villain of the week

i think tho given the quality of other hoyo stories i do trust that it'll get better once they make the turn

once the players and factions are laid out, things can pick up

[glossy latch]

... why is Mona here???

Wait

Was all this just to confirm she isnt Fontainian?

[mortal iron]

Lore drop I think, and to confirm she's not from fontaine

Yeah coz a popular theory was her being a fontainian because she wrote for a fontiane newspaper

And she didn't live in mondstat until her story quest

[runic ether]

yes kinda lmao

[glossy latch]

Oh the Hexenzirkel again

... Im still a bit confused by them

Like theyre apparently old, immensely powerful to the point of being able to rival archons and ... largely uninvolved in Teyvat?

Their abilities also don't fit within the normal scale of Teyvat

But they're also not descenders

[runic ether]

this latest summer event put things into question further bc they may be aware they are in a story

[rapid bough]

plymouth acquired

[glossy latch]

Oh cute, they didnt pick that number randomly, it corresponds to around 500 years

[slow raft]

https://vxtwitter.com/may_FGC/status/1838282501888053552 smth smth sol badguy

[glossy latch]

Ok I have a complaint about the Fontaine story

||The whale feels out of place||

||Like it pretty clearly only exists because they needed a "boss" for the story||

[runic ether]

||that is actually just the weakest part for sure||

||i wish it was tied a bit more to the issues that focalors was facing||

||like it was, in a way, bc it was eating the primordial sea water and thrashing about in the primordial sea was the reason things were going crazy in fontaine||

||and as cool as it is that the narwhal is a completely alien being to teyvat, it being so uninvolved until the end was a bit of a waste||

[glossy latch]

||But thats kinda lame, and the other issue is that ... given that its from the Abyss, how did the prophecy capture that?||

[long tree]

Decided to try battle cats again cause tenth anni

[glossy latch]

||It should've been outside the scope of the prophecy||

[runic ether]

||it isnt from the abyss. its outside of teyvat entirely||

[long tree]

One multi god damn

[glossy latch]

||Isnt that just what the Abyss is?||

[runic ether]

||it also brings up a big question on what the fuck skirk and her master surtalogi found outside of teyvat||

||nope, the abyss is still within the rules of teyvat. the narwhal is a being from beyond the sea of stars. its not from teyvat at all||

[glossy latch]

Huh

I always thought that ||The abyss was beyond the rules of Teyvat, and thats what makes it forbidden knowledge||

[runic ether]

||its possible that forbidden knowledge flows into the abyss from outside of teyvat but the abyss is located in teyvat||

||even if its an alternate dimension within teyvat||

||the dragon god nibelung went outside of teyvat and obtained forbidden knowledge that way which is likely why there is such a thing down there too||

||but the narwhal itself, is just a creature from outside of teyvat seemingly eating the primordial energies of a planet as nourishment||

[glossy latch]

Weird

[runic ether]

||and it also powerscales skirk (and surtalogi) and the other sinners of khaenri'ah to a whole new level||

theory time: ||the whole whale part of this quest was just an excuse to show us why childe's vision was not working right and i believe childe has broken free of the rules of teyvat as a result of the whale being defeated||

||the narwhal was his constellation and with it sealed and defeated, i think childe is free from the fate of his original name, ajax, which in previous world cycles, always died fighting it||

||as a reminder, childe was fighting it off for about a month in his foul legacy form, only giving out at the very end when he saw that neuvillette and the traveler were gonna go in to fight it next. he's become so much stronger.||

[glossy latch]

||Ajax?||

[runic ether]

ye

[mortal iron]

childe would mop the traveller in a rematch

traveller would not last 1 day with the whale

[runic ether]

||childe has 3 names. ajax (his original name), childe (his name post abyss fall), and then tartaglia (harbinger name)||

||childe was named ajax bc of a hero in teyvat legend that was basically a combination of moby dick + the greek ajax with his death being at the hands of the whale||

||this was the confrontation but he lives instead||

||which feels to me like hes broken free of the cycles in teyvat||

[slow raft]

https://youtu.be/QC_Cr0qOO5A?si=gdKHfvMexWZTPN5V

[glossy latch]

||Right, the cycles thing that isnt fully explained yet||

[runic ether]

||im p sure that will start coming up with the natlan story but we'll see||

[glossy latch]

Anyway, overall thoughts on Fontaine story are

Pretty good, though its held back a bit by being a Genshin story

||I.e. I wish it had a bit more happening between the first 2 chapters and the next 2, and the Narwhal being the obligatory boss despite adding little to the story||

[mortal iron]

yeah the weakest part is the prison arc for me coz it was not that intersting to play through

[glossy latch]

Yeah it really just wasnt fleshed out

The setting was cool enough, but also underutilised

[mortal iron]

alot of backtracking

like i get it's a prison but i didnt care about the wine thing

the start and end of that quest is good, the middle is just filler to me

[runic ether]

ye i agree. if genshin wasnt a gacha, they'd be able to go through their narrative way more smoothly and it'd be a better story

[glossy latch]

Also ||Furinas arc was quite nice||

A rare instance where ||the lack of foreshadowing is actually kind of important||

||Poor girls therapist is gonna need a therapist||

[runic ether]

100%

to both

||great example of how to just dump a situation onto players with no real hint prior and having ppl go "oh. oh. oh"||

[old galleon]

Yorokobe

[slow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/rasputin-grigori-grigori-rasputin-rasputin-fgo-grigori-rasputin-fgo-gif-27545062

[glossy latch]

Yknow I have one small realisation

The more we see of the other nations ... the less impressive Khaenriah is?

[runic ether]

thing to remember is khaenriah was this advanced 500 years before the other nations

tho playing thru the 4.7 dainsleif quest, it does bring some things to question

like it may be that ultimately, it wasnt for the currently known reasons that khaenriah was nuked

[glossy latch]

I mean

Havent the Guardemechs been around for ages?

[runic ether]

a while yes

but they only work in fontaine

the field tillers and other khaenrian tech is able to free roam everywhere and has been working non-stop for the entire time since the fall without orders

i think only the fatui have similar tech levels but even they still study the khaenrian tech to see what else they can learn

tho i do believe that teyvat has "outgrown" khaenrian stuff

and my theory is that the cycles begin when everyone catches up to khaenria's level

and thats why the heavenly principles decided to destroy khaenriah first and foremost

[mortal iron]

1 down

I more to go then I 100% all of genshin areas

[rapid bough]

35 BPs away from dev30 agir, 34 from dev30 plymouth after turning all my general BPs to her. also spent a bunch of protocore on getting the BPs for a plymouth gun

so close to having a semi-decent vanguard

[versed pawn]

if u ever feel your existence is unneeded Leverboo exists

[glossy latch]

Ok, Natlan quest started

This one is ... 5 hours from what Ive heard?

[runic ether]

give or take

[glossy latch]

Ok, 9 off from soft pity

[runic ether]

[glossy latch]

Wait hold on

Natlan has people with dark skin

... just the playable characters dont?

[runic ether]

only iansan has dark skin

but yes

its almost comical

[slow raft]

many such cases

[glossy latch]

I mean like

The first 2 NPCs in the story have darker skin

[runic ether]

a ton of npcs in natlan are dark skinned

variety of skin color among them too

its not just one shade of brown

again

almost comical

[slow raft]

reminds me of a different issue with playable characters vs npcs

https://x.com/StalkiwiTheTrou/status/1838397587654586470 funny post, but only one of these is playable

Stalkiwi (@StalkiwiTheTrou) on X

how "we like older women" look when real gilfs likers come at them

Twitter · Sep 24, 2024, 1:58 AM

[runic ether]

some of these are really good

but damn

[old galleon]

arknights has some majestic designs, ye

[mortal iron]

It is kinda weird to me that only siegwinne is the only playable melusine and that's because she's the only one we interact with, that has changed her face to be human

[glossy latch]

Funny that the Persona 5 Gacha has one of the few good examples of playable old women

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/3/3f/P5X_Chizuko_Nagao_Vino_1.png/revision/latest?cb=20240620104841

Like yeah this design is actually good

[slow raft]

i imagine you can even guess which one of these is the playable one

[glossy latch]

Middle one on the right?

[slow raft]

no, its bottom left, the least old looking

[old galleon]

tbf arknights does at least have an actually old-looking old man playable

so that's something

[glossy latch]

Yeah tbf

Thats why I assumed it wasnt her

[old galleon]

but yeah, actually old-looking older women as playables are rare

[slow raft]

slipping my mind rn, who?

[old galleon]

the one welfare

harold i think?

[slow raft]

oh right

[old galleon]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/images/7/75/Harold.png

[glossy latch]

Wasnt one of the first characters a silver fox too?

[honest pawn]

I must hold myself back

[slow raft]

i have eyja so i dont often use other wandering medics

[slow raft]

a second well designed woman has hit the persona gacha

[slow raft]

we have a guy named silverash but hes not really old

[honest pawn]

SILVERASH MENTIONED

PEAK CHARACTER

[old galleon]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/images/c/c9/SilverAsh_Skin_3.png

based skin btw

[long tree]

Silver ash mentioned, Chris redfield memes are a go

[slow raft]

Always remember that his real name is enciodes

[idle grove]

enchilada my beloved...

[slow raft]

https://x.com/_Achyue_/status/1838886832597061943

缺 (@_Achyue_) on X

#HonkaiStarRail #Feixiao
飞霄

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 10:22 AM

[honest pawn]

wait what

[long tree]

Silver ash wants the doctor to marry into his family

[versed pawn]

Wait lucy got buffed

[slow raft]

(Not in actual lore ofc)

[glossy latch]

Ok hold on

||Nkunga shows that they can totally make big buff dudes||

||Im now even more disappointed about the captain||

[long tree]

They can they just don't

Because it's more efficient if the model types flow into catagories they can slightly modify for animation purposes

ZZZ will likely be the first to fully break away from the model type thing because of how unique animations are character to character

[versed pawn]

Gonna have to build anomaly lucy now

Boars share her AM now

[honest pawn]

technically we're already married so

🫡

[glossy latch]

Oh hey, boss fight with unique mechanics

Neat

Also huh

No electro tribe

Thats odd

[runic ether]

not yet

[glossy latch]

Well theres only 6 tribes

And while two have unknown elements, its pretty clear theyre anemo and pyro

Electro is the odd one out

Im going to guess ||The Electro Wayob was destroyed and the tribe ceased to exist||

[runic ether]

||most likely||

||i think its an interesting thought process though that again, this whole thing has been about cycles. which is why i think we are getting more details on how it cycles for all of teyvat||

[runic ether]

https://vxtwitter.com/115_koubunshi/status/1778001159602708942

[slow raft]

https://x.com/mmmmmmmmyummers/status/1838906574003212510 speaking of whale hunters

RazerRed (@mmmmmmmmyummers) on X

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 11:41 AM

[glossy latch]

God I hate how low the detection range on Pyroculi is

[grave valley]

Neato

[honest pawn]

yachie poggers

[grave valley]

Already had her

But yeah we did nice

[glossy latch]

God I hate that Genshins pull history doesnt insta update

[slow raft]

Anyone know what ishmael is saying here btw?

[honest pawn]

https://x.com/NishikujiC/status/1838626818011861095

忙しい西九時 (@NishikujiC) on X

Want an energy bar?

Twitter · Sep 24, 2024, 5:09 PM

[honest pawn]

コスプレごっこしてる ヒマなんてあるんですか?
roughly: do you have the time to be doing cosplay?

not sure it's her saying it actually

[slow raft]

Probably not

[grave valley]

I thought the bar in her mouth was her tongue for a sec

And was like

wtf

[honest pawn]

well you see, that's Rodya

[glossy latch]

Oh wait yeah

The Traveller can do that

... did that really not come up since chapter 1?

[long tree]

Do what sorry

[glossy latch]

||Cleanse Abyssal corruption||

[long tree]

||they have to only include early stuff because you can start natlan early, they'll still likely have references to past stuff just try to keep it as minimal as they can||

[glossy latch]

Oh no I mean

||This power hasnt been used since chapter 1 I think||

[long tree]

You'd be right about that it hasn't come up too much

[runic ether]

nope

its come up now

1st time since prologue actually

[versed pawn]

Gibt more yanagi leaks naow

Wanna know if I skip burnice

[long tree]

Grapple hook gaming

[versed pawn]

I'm broke in genshin can't even lvl 80 gaming

But lvl 70 was enough get Theater to stage 8

Tho since I have everything I wanted now I probably just grind mats for the next 2 characters I wanna build

Xianyun and kazuha now I guess next

[runic ether]

somehow

caesar's left arm being one of billy's spares is really cute

[runic ether]

https://vxtwitter.com/grandaloe/status/1838672885910769716?t=6d7uWCljAeAmuFz0wastWQ&s=19

[old galleon]

https://twitter.com/azurlane_en/status/1839122721856221269

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN) on X

Dear Commander,

The 3D dorm, Private Quarters, will be available after maintenance. A Promise Ring will be sent as a commemorative gift. Remember to claim the gift before 10/9, 11:59 P.M. (UTC-7)!

#AzurLane #Yostar

Twitter · Sep 26, 2024, 2:00 AM

free ring based

[rapid bough]

honestly the part i'm most hyped for is the ring, kinda don't care about the 3d dorm and think it'll be sort of a half-baked feature, especially on initial release

[old galleon]

i don't expect much out of 3d dorm yet either

esp if it's just sirius so far

but it's one of those features they can definitely expand on over time

[rapid bough]

there seems to be a push (especially in fanservicey gacha) toward complex 3d dorm systems where you can interact with your characters and i think that makes sense

this feature seems like a hastily thrown together reaction to the dorm craze

yes there's room for improvement but then i have to ask myself how much do i care lol

part of me wishes they'd spend more time on actual gameplay-relevant improvements

but another part of me realizes that AL is both old and focused on fanservice rather than gameplay, so gameplay isn't likely to change in any substantive way at this point

[old galleon]

they did try some pseudo-roguelike-ish-esque-whatever combat mode once

and presumably realized that was a horrible implementation of it and we haven't heard anything about it since

[rapid bough]

lol

roguelike content is almost compulsory in gacha games at this point so it'd be interesting to see what they whip up if they want to return to that

[old galleon]

it wasn't even like a rougelike progression mode or anything, it was literally a combat thing

[rapid bough]

i've also mentioned the possible addition of faction-limited content that could make faction fleeting fun and relevant for the first time ever

[old galleon]

you'd get like cards or something to use to do attacks and shit

[rapid bough]

oh yuck

[old galleon]

but we got the em aux out of it so it wasn't all bad

the event isn't even its own page on the wiki, apparently

lol

[rapid bough]

would definitely be nice to get a change of gameplay pace at the very least, i've only been around for half a year-ish now and have settled into 12-4 + opsi slog

[old galleon]

well, once you start doing your push into 13+ maybe that'll be a big enough change

[rapid bough]

and that's fine, all gacha games eventually get to the "grind out your dailies for the next century" phase and azur lane is more engaging than most in that respect

but spicing things up a bit would be welcome

[old galleon]

13 is your first taste of plane hell, 14 has a few silly things going on, and 15 turns 13 up to 11

[rapid bough]

yeah i think i'll see about pushing 13+ once i get a few really strong ships i only got recently fully kitted

[old galleon]

i'd push into 15 myself, but i'm going for at least one more rainbow aa gun and i want to get a new orleans drop

[rapid bough]

sandy, agir, plymouth, amagi

those first 3 especially are going to make my average vanguard setups so much better lol

[old galleon]

you'll probably use agir mostly in bosses, ply and sandy are def more flexible in that regard

agir works fine in mobs minus losing her evasion boost when below certain ammo, but she's probably overkill for most mob contexts

[rapid bough]

i'll prolly use her as a boss tank since i don't even have an HE CB gun to get her damage buff with, so gotta go with AP CB which gives a hefty decrease to damage taken

anchorage can be my mob tank or something

[old galleon]

there's like one he cb gun in the game iirc and it's not that great

basically all the good ones that i can recall are ap

[rapid bough]

only HE CB gun is azuma gun i think

[old galleon]

it's the only one i can immediately recall, at least

[rapid bough]

and at least i've been told it's BIS vs light, but agir gun is easiest to get and is AP + BIS vs medium/heavy among guns that aren't limited

[old galleon]

it's good against light, but aside from certain arbiter/hard arbiter fights i can't think of anything particularly relevant that's sure to be light armor

maybe 15-3 boss?

but the ap gun should be fine for that too

i just don't think azuma gun is good enough to worry too much about esp since it's a pr2 gear piece

and that's protocore you could use on other things

not sure if it's craftable in gear lab buf it if is, then that's also mats you could use on other things

[rapid bough]

yeah i'm not worrying about it, just means i'm basically locked into the part of agir's skill 2 that says "reduce damage taken" rather than "increase damage dealt"

she's probably my second best tank anyway

[old galleon]

which is fine, since even with the damage buff she's probably not hitting the kinds of damage you'd see out of a more dedicated dps

[rapid bough]

or, well, my second tankiest ship (anchorage is above her i imagine)

[old galleon]

iirc agir is tankier in ap mode

don't overestimate anchorage's bulk; she's very good and bulky but she should lose out to the highest-end rainbow tanks

which at this stage would be napoli and agir

[rapid bough]

i've been lead to believe anchorage is the tankiest ship in the game basically, at least pre-napoli

her shield ends up giving her insanely high effective HP

[old galleon]

yeah my point isn't that anchorage is paper

but i'm pretty sure agir should be a little bulkier than her on the whole

frankly tho, it's probably a wash

anchorage should be able to survive basically everything agir can anyway

[rapid bough]

yeah i imagine there's just a few at the top that reach a critical mass of bulk where they're essentially interchangeable

at which point the difference becomes how much damage/utility they bring otherwise

and agir/napoli definitely win over anchorage on that front

[old galleon]

does napoli win out that much on damage or utility?

agir has h er own utility but i read napoli as basically a supercharged anchorage

[rapid bough]

on that basis alone i assume she's better than anchorage, idk about agir

[old galleon]

napoli should be on the whole better than anchorage, yes

[rapid bough]

her effectiveness is hard to really get a grasp on just reading her skills and loadout

weird secondary gun focus

[old galleon]

the obvious caveat is, napoli is 3 years newer, is a dr, and is not coinable

which is all much harder to get online than anchorage

[rapid bough]

indeed lol

anchorage is easily the best combination of tankiness + ease in getting her up and running

[old galleon]

there's a reason you'll probably see people recommend pushing pr4 quickly

[rapid bough]

which is why a lot of newbie guides recommend focusing PR4 and rushing EU tech for anchorage early

newbies gonna be eating good when DR4 becomes coinable, that season is honestly stacked

[old galleon]

it'll probably still be a while before that happens

[rapid bough]

4/5 ships are endgame mainstays currently, and marco polo is still quite solid despite being the afterthought ship of the season

but yeah that's prolly forever away

[old galleon]

marco is great but has the issue of being a gold bb in 2024

[rapid bough]

i doubt i'll be able to benefit since i'll have agir/haku devved up on BPs by then

[old galleon]

the newer you are, the higher impact she'll have, but at the same time, it's harder to get her online to a point where she'll be super high impact while also not having access to other options

[rapid bough]

hopefully agir gets her fs soon since i'll be sticking around in PR4 until haku is fs5

[old galleon]

but she should be able to at least cover for chapter 14, i remember her being mentioned as a decent mob flag choice post-fs

if it's to the detriment of your other progress, i probably wouldn't recommend staying in pr4 just to fs5 haku

haku was still very good pre-fs and amagi exists now

[rapid bough]

true

[old galleon]

rather, if you've finished plymouth, you could consider working on brest, or moving to pr6 for a bit and doing shimanto

shimanto is a bit more futureproofing, tho

[rapid bough]

currently i'm seeing if i can unlock azuma, since getting her + MLB amagi next month will give me the fleet tech i need to unlock haku

brest will prolly be after haku

then... idek

shimanto's a good shout

[old galleon]

shimanto's probably the most overall valuable pr6 ship at this stage

kear and hinden are both great but idk how much need you have for what they do

flandre is nice but has similar "competing with top tier bb" issue marco does

[rapid bough]

i want them for their designs alone so they will be mine regardless

[old galleon]

and felix is fine but better tanks exist

[rapid bough]

hmmm shimanto needed the same fleet tech (900) that azuma did so i could dev her right now

i might start her tomorrow then

i'm in no rush to finish azuma since i'll be coining drake for a looooooong time

[old galleon]

shimanto is def more of a futureproofing thing

brings very good aa for the plane hells and has some anti-burn utility on top of being a generally good cl stat stick

[rapid bough]

gonna have to figure out which sakura vanguards to throw into the XP grind ugh

[old galleon]

so she ends up being a top choice for 13-15

what are your options?

[rapid bough]

i mean... there are a lot, but among my currently MLB shipgirls

• noshiro
• ayanami
• choukai
• suzunami

that's literally it lol

could throw some purple bulins at other ships but no need just yet

[old galleon]

was about to ask who the hell suzunami is but she's just from this event

hmm

[rapid bough]

aye

choukai being the 12-4 drop was convenient, MLB'd her just on dupes lol

i'm at the stage of the game where i'm hella bulin poor

[old galleon]

if you're only limiting yourslef to those four, then you run everyone but suzunami

noshiro tank probably, or choukai if for whatever reason noshiro doesn't work

if you're considering other ships...

[rapid bough]

i also need to look up what stats others give at 120 to determine the best long term options

[old galleon]

watarase would probably be a good pick if you plan to mlb her

[rapid bough]

eventually, but i have zero gold bulins atm

recently MLB'd zuihou so i could get a sakura healer to use when grinding sakura main fleet objectives

instead of leaning on uni every damn time

[old galleon]

oh if you're considering fleet tech

uhh

Hatsuzuki, Kitakaze, Suzutsuki, Wakatsuki
these give +1 dd fp at 120

suzutsuki is perma and kitakaze is a pr2 ship so that's 2 possibilities if you have them

[rapid bough]

i have suzu at least. again, no gold bulins tho

[old galleon]

wakatsuki is the welfare from the musashi event whenever that reruns btw

[rapid bough]

soon™️

[old galleon]

most of the other decent vanguard tech also seems to be on limited ships yo ucan't get yet

natori has cl evasion, haguro has ca evasion

i guess for cl fp there's mogami and mikuma

[rapid bough]

i think i'll just start with noshiro/choukai/ayanami, getting those to 120 should basically complete the shimanto grind anyway

[old galleon]

ye

if you're just grinding 12-4 that should be fine

you can get away with a lot in 12-4 esp with uni

but if you don't need a healer then you can even drop uni and level someone else

[rapid bough]

thus far i have basically always needed uni, which makes non-HMS main fleet grinds take annoyingly long

but that's in part because i try to push how many ships i can level at once

i could probably cut uni from main fleet grinds if i just stack my vanguard with good ships, but then i feel like i'm wasting possible vanguard XP too

[old galleon]

mhm

liek my uni's been on 3m exp forever now and i still run her to keep some of my leveling fleets alive

[rapid bough]

that's why i did this, to have a sakura healer for those grinds

but not every faction has a good healer

[old galleon]

tbf you can use shouhou for that too

[rapid bough]

honestly completely forgot about shouhou rip

[old galleon]

so the (main) healers i've actually used in content range from unicorn to shouhou, perseus to painleve, and klaudia even

i've also leveled with ryuuhou but using just her is a little dicey sometimes

[rapid bough]

zuihou healing the main fleet is quite nice over shouhou though, since if you're leveling/grinding main fleet they can take a real pounding

[old galleon]

if i'm leveling main fleet in 12-4 i'm probably also bringing a pretty high aa vanguard to help with that

[rapid bough]

yeah that's been the bane of my existence so far

sandy's still underleveled and she's my only real AA carry

so i don't have the AA to stack in the vanguard

hence needing uni

[old galleon]

you shouldn't need to stack that much, just have the one

even non-retro sandy should be able to do that much

obv you want to retro sandy at some point

[rapid bough]

i have her retro'd to UR but still don't have her last skill unlocked which gives a hefty AA increase

• she's only level 109

[old galleon]

what aa gun do you use on her?

or rather, would you use on her?

[rapid bough]

gold roomba

[old galleon]

acceptable

[rapid bough]

should maybe craft a sexty just for her

[old galleon]

you might consider it later but the roomba is totally fine

[rapid bough]

will prolly just keep the gold roomba on her until i get a rainbow AA gun

still a ways away from one of those

[old galleon]

rainbow aa is overkill for 12

(and 13)

consider that more of a 13h/15 thing

[rapid bough]

works out fine since i ain't getting a rainbow AA any time soon regardless lol

[old galleon]

yeah probably

you probably want to either build a wyvern or 2, or wait for next possible gear lab update, or maybe craft some rainbow guns

idk what your gear priorities are right now, but regardless, the rainbow aa is def more of a hard plane hell optimization

[rapid bough]

kinda been leaving gear lab unused due to some indecision on what exactly i want to put the resources into

not gear lab, but gonna get my third champy gun next month and work on getting that trio to +13

dunno whether i want to use UR main gun BPs on DD gun or 406mk7, but i think i've said in the past that i prefer getting mk7 since i only really need 3 of those and i'd rather cross it off the list

[old galleon]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#gear_lab

can consider this for gear lab prio

[rapid bough]

also don't know whether i want to use t3 ordnance on drake gun or spearfish, but currently inclined toward drake gun since wyverns don't cost ordnance and on par with spearfish

[rapid bough]

yeah i've had this bookmarked (different location though, i have the raw spreadsheet these images are taken from bookmarked instead)

ofc my issue is that there's a lot of stuff on the same level of priority that share resources

[old galleon]

electronics are a particular bitch in that regard

[rapid bough]

e.g. mk7 and DD gun, or wyvern/spearfish (with spearfish also being higher in priority than drake gun which surprises me)

[old galleon]

drake gun can be bought with protocore if it comes down to it, and also has reasonable competition in the hindenburg gun

if it were me i'd hold off on crafting either of them until i knew i needed

[rapid bough]

yeah but i just bought plymouth gun with protocore so gonna be a while til i get enough for drake gun (which is prolly next)

regardless i'm still months away from having to make a choice on how to spend my t3 ordnance

i know the main source of t3 ordnance is actually combining t2 ordnance

but i still need to use t2 ordnance on various things so i can't just turn it all into t3 yet

[old galleon]

iirc you can get at least one t3 per month in opsi

[rapid bough]

yep

i have 3 t3 currently without getting my 1 from this month yet

drake gun/spearfish cost 9 so that's 5 months left at 1/month lol

the rate is higher than that if you combine t2 ordnance, but again, i still use those to craft other gold gear like flapjacks

once i have enough gold gear that i can comfortably just swap shit between ships i'm using i'll start combining t2 ordnances into t3

[old galleon]

yeah you'll def want some flapjacks for plane hells

[summer hornet]

LMAO

Oh no

Oh we're ||time looping||, oh joyyyyyyyyyyyy

How did we jump from desert fantasy dystopia to ||Endless Eight||???

||NAHIDA JUMPSCARE||

Okay this is getting really interesting

||well, I think I understand why Tighnari didn't want to be in Sumeru City, if the sages are trying to conduct a giant time loop hivemind experiment||

||still trying to figure some things out though||

||REALLY not being subtle here||

[runic ether]

lol

[old galleon]

||kyon-kun, denwa||

[summer hornet]

||Naturally, the cruelest possibility turns out to be the true one. I didn't expect the Sage to be a fake though, geez||

||oh, they didn't actually kill Dunyarzad!||

[summer hornet]

||The casual loredumping in this patch is wild||

But that’s act 2 of Sumeru done

That was really, really good

[slow raft]

https://youtu.be/hmrnCmal60E?si=rfP2LtADXpcCZnRP never heard the actual theme for phantom thief W

p sure its the same singer/s as in renegade

[runic ether]

||its confirming a rumour bc katherine in mondstat has a voiceline while she idles saying "rebooting"||

[glossy latch]

And there we go

Kinich obtained

Now I need to get the Natlan broadsword for him

[runic ether]

if you have any spare billets from other nations, u can translate those to natlan ones

[glossy latch]

I do

From what I understand that is his best f2p sword yeah?

[runic ether]

ye

[glossy latch]

Err

[runic ether]

besides the obvious fav greatsword

[glossy latch]

Whatever the greatswords are called

Fav greatsword? I assumed energy regen doesnt matter on him

[runic ether]

claymores

[runic ether]

it doesnt but it buffs the team damage as a whole

so like

the reason behind fav

is actually quite sound

1, it trivializes getting your burst on a dps

2, you already build crit on a dps to trigger fav

3, your supports will have way more consistent uptime

4, you can get way more greedy on off-field dps characters like xiangling or xingqiu

fav does cost you some damage

but it can make up for it itself

that said, the natlan craft claymore is quite good

and there are other fav holders on his teams

[glossy latch]

Hmmm

So, Kinich, Dehya, Emilie

What other Pyro would I use

[long tree]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-bennett-bennett-genshin-gif-8066946484211394210

[glossy latch]

Not Bennett since his circle is kinda anti-synergistic and he is better elsewhere

[long tree]

Xiangling?

[glossy latch]

Maybe

[slow raft]

https://x.com/honeybee_august/status/1839073256516599902 companies when july 1st

August (@honeybee_august) on X

I’m sorry did I miss something why do I have NEGATIVE pride 😒

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 10:43 PM

[glossy latch]

Also I was wrong, I think

The tribe were not getting is Pyro

Which is kinda even odder?

So we have a nation of Pyro, but the nation is actually not pyro focused

[runic ether]

the pyro archon is the pyro (tribe)

that being said, it is a symptom of genshin being allergic to pyro

which does make me curious about the specifics cus we know phlogiston in natlan is able to repel the abyss

[glossy latch]

I mean its still odd cuz like

In every other nation their element is actually pretty core to the nation

Except in Natlan

[runic ether]

yea

i think the reason is bc ||the land has no natural leylines. and the tale of how the pyro sovereign's flame was stolen by xblanque means that pyro is actually missing a proper "flame" or "core"||

also interesting to note

||the leylines being missing is most likely cus the dragon civ that was in natlan was super advanced they probably burnt the leyline system in the land away ages ago||

it also ||powerscales celestia a bit more cus it wasnt just some feral or natural elemental dragons but a whole ass high tech civilization||

||ultimately, i am very curious as to how the natlan quest will resolve since its very possible it'll entirely be about resurrecting xblanque or the pyro sovereign||

crack theory

||capitano is xblanque or the pyro sovereign reincarnated||

actual insane crack theory

||capitano is akivili descended to teyvat and stuck here.||

||he was the 3rd descender into teyvat and died and was split up into the current gnosis but an aeon rarely truly dies and thus, he was revived as the captain still looking to travel around hence why he joined the fatui. this wouldnt invalidate him having been the bloodstained knight in mondstat or why he has experience with things in natlan||

[glossy latch]

Mmh

That one I doubt

Also hey, time to figure out how to ascend Kinich, yay

I am glad they made finding the mats easier

[runic ether]

fr

[glossy latch]

Still kinda odd though that you have to go around murdering Saurians

[runic ether]

they are wild creatures ultimately

[mortal iron]

Why do we have to kill so many kids tho in this abyss

[runic ether]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-darthvader-gif-5533636

[long tree]

The gemmmmmms

[mortal iron]

what lead do i play so i can play the new gohan and beast gohan

and goku gohan trunks trio

[long tree]

You got phy LR gogeta or agl lr broly

Movie heroes and full power lead them all

Beast Gohan and LR trio will be your slot ones

Gogetas float

You slot two is str LR Gohan and... Idk whoever you find can fit in

[glossy latch]

I love how one of the new world bosses is just a particularly fat saurian

[mortal iron]

I don't like that genshin making me feel bad for killing animals

😔

First it was the seals in fontaine

Now the kids

Fuck them birds and crabs tho

[runic ether]

yes

he

his lore is fucking sad though

[versed pawn]

https://x.com/Narushioww/status/1839179764193534373 finally Voicelines added

Narushio (@Narushioww) on X

Nanami: Startrail Gameplay [JP]
#punishinggrayraven #PGR

Twitter · Sep 26, 2024, 5:46 AM

[mortal iron]

It's so funny how kinich is the ultimate counter to him

Like it makes sense but it's so funny having megaman blast from getting the fire blue balls

[long tree]

Kinich when minor inconvenience

[versed pawn]

https://x.com/Narushioww/status/1839320124651888917 havent had trance in a while in PGR

Narushio (@Narushioww) on X

THOSE HEAVY BEATS AND HEAVY BASS! WITH VOCALS! GHOSTFINAL IS THAT YOU!

Twitter · Sep 26, 2024, 3:04 PM

[mortal iron]

Genshin natlan there's a theory that ||natlan is a dream, which is why the leylines are weak, resurrection being possible, and why we don't see natlan characters outside of natlan, the pyro crystal thing mentions about dreams||

||https://youtube.com/shorts/x6MHOK3tAYk?si=iEvatiXWriBrJNmH||

Interesting theory

||could be like a fontaine situation where the people are sins, in this case no real, so at the end the dream becomes reality||

[glossy latch]

Is it?

[glossy latch]

That does have one problem

||Benny is from Natlan||

[long tree]

He got dragon dementia

[runic ether]

and wants to actively die

due to abyssal corruption

[long tree]

Why must god punish my round boy

[glossy latch]

Where is that stated in the lore o.0

[mortal iron]

||maybe that's why he has bad luck, he's not real||

[long tree]

Do the tribe quests

[runic ether]

oh actually

its just part of the tribe quest of the scions of the canopy

minor spoiler ig

[glossy latch]

Also wait no

[mortal iron]

I think my issue with kinich quest was...I forgot the previous 2 quests for it

[runic ether]

our chonky boy is extremely sad and in a lot of pain

[glossy latch]

||Benny is not confirmed to be from Natlan, I think thats just a headcanon I thought was canon||

[mortal iron]

Mualani got hers fully out the gate

[runic ether]

||benny was found near natlan in the mare jivari||

||unknown if hes a child of natlan or not||

[long tree]

They’re doing em so that the five star for the patch finishes the tribe quest

[mortal iron]

Yeah I know

Really prefer just locking the entire tribe quest or smth, coz I will forget

[long tree]

Bro gonna have the ancient name “oops”

[mortal iron]

Mualani quest has the best area

[runic ether]

benny's ancient name: ||xblanque||

[mortal iron]

But...the story is deadass ||the real treasure were the friends we made along the way||

Kinich has a better story, just like not that interesting in exploration

So it balances out

[runic ether]

i like the way they are doing them tho

cus it makes them optional and ties them together to the world more

some character quests feel very disconnected from everything else bc it has to drop everything for it

[long tree]

I have a feeling they’re gonna all have to tie into something at the end

[versed pawn]

[glossy latch]

Oh boy, maxing out Kinich is gonna take a while

Curse me never pre-farming

[runic ether]

i should start prefarming xilonen

but im artifact grinding instead :icant

[glossy latch]

... I did not consider I would need to farm Artifacts for Kinich too

This is gonna take a while

Hell I havent even maxed out Emilie yet

[runic ether]

yea and new natlan set is fucking cracked for natlan characters

both for support and dps

the new set tho is pretty nice

cus its efficient

the best part of this set is that you only need to pursue about 60% crit rate

[mortal iron]

I think the best regional side quests are still sumeru

Aranara really good, jehtt is phenomenal, the last one was neat

[long tree]

Me pulling up a guide for puzzles a 5 year old could solve

[mortal iron]

Well okay puzzles wise they were ass

[versed pawn]

I mean the made building units easier now by Givin them crit and cdmg weapons with a crit rate artifact set

[mortal iron]

But just story wise, It was well connected

[versed pawn]

It's nice not to spend months grinding

Looking at raiden

[glossy latch]

Wait does the new set basically powercreep Marechausse?

[mortal iron]

My issue with fontaine is there is too much from too many desperate questlines that converge, which is cool to see but kinda hard to follow

[versed pawn]

Only for nightsozl characters

[runic ether]

nah mh is better if u have no nightsoul

[long tree]

Traveler committing a whole ass genocide (this is canon and they will answer to god for it)

[versed pawn]

But high guess that Pyro archon adds it to your entire party and let's u trigger it

Like furina makes marachusee work on everyone

[long tree]

Oh right a reminder Genshins dropping a tenpull on Saturday

[glossy latch]

... que?

[long tree]

Genshin could nev- I was not prepared for this scenario

[long tree]

Yeah we’re just getting 1600 gems

[runic ether]

we get another 10 pulls yea

[long tree]

Cause why not

[runic ether]

thats the anniv rewards

we hadnt gotten them yet

[mortal iron]

I forgor about those

Xilonen funds nice

[glossy latch]

Well I guess I can save up for Wrio now

Ironically I think his weapon is better than his C1 but

[mortal iron]

I thought C1 makes him better to play

[glossy latch]

Yeah it does

Thats why Ill go for C1 over his weapon

But crit rate on weapon would be a huge boon ngl

[mortal iron]

Could just get a crit rate circlet and go widsth

[glossy latch]

Dont have Widsith

[mortal iron]

Aah

[runic ether]

also tho remember

if in 2x cryo, you have a 15% crit bonus from cryo res

and mh is 36% crit rate

[glossy latch]

Ye

Rn in the Freeze team thats fine, if I wanna do a burnmelt team thats gonna be a pain tho

Ill see

[mortal iron]

What set does wrio use

[glossy latch]

Mostly since I am kinda doing Kinich burning

Marechausse

He is basically its best user tbh

[mortal iron]

Coz doesn't wrio lose hp, so marechausse would give him crit rate

[glossy latch]

Ye

Thats why Im doing CD circlet

But getting to 100% is tricky

100% CR I mean

Im close in a double cryo setup, but in burnmelt hed be at 85%

[runic ether]

ooo so close

yea thats a slightly frustrating spot to be in

though remember

abyss and theater buffs will usually get you to 100

[glossy latch]

Mmh

For the time being its fine, Ill have Arle/Kinich as my main two teams and just pull out the Wrio whenever

It sucks that Wrio + Furina freeze is kinda meh

[mortal iron]

Cruel they put wrio and neuv on the same patch

Why they make me choose between 2 men

😔

[glossy latch]

It really feels like Wrio needs Pyro to melt off of, since without it his damage is less impressive

... or maybe Arle is just that busted

Ill have to see if my Furina is maybe just not up to snuff

[copper steppe]

super orion new interlude was cool, continuing the theme of the joys from the simplicity of humanity in lb5.1

[runic ether]

melt is that strong actually

its only held back by a lack of both pyro off fielders (its all xiangling baby) and cryo off fielders (theres literally no one)

[mortal iron]

There's uh...layla burst and kaeya's burst which are there

Layla burst is whatever, kaeya's is okay with cons

[runic ether]

kaeya and layla are both good

but kaeya fits a quickswap team

and layla is the 2nd best shield

not necessarily good cryo app

[mortal iron]

Yeah they're good characters individual, just mostly talking about their cryo off field app

I like running layla instead of zhongli for arle for melts here and there

[glossy latch]

Ill see, Ill figure something out

[slow raft]

Me when people ask me why im using a 4 star lancer to arts loop

[copper steppe]

melt my beloved

[summer hornet]

AOE Lancers, one of my favorite genders

[old galleon]

church of ereshkigal

or temple, i guess

[glossy latch]

Huh, the new local legends might be testing out new mechanics?

I wonder if theyre gonna make perfect dodges a general thing

[long tree]

It’d be a nice way to make the combat deeper

Don’t punish people for being unable to do it but reward the ones who can

[glossy latch]

Also the parry mechanic makes me hope thats gonna be a character at least

... also I just realised

I puled 155 times for Kinich

... 0 Chevreuse

[long tree]

Yeah I’m on the chevreuse drought too

🤝

[glossy latch]

🤝

I got Cujo Sarah C6

And like 5 Thoma copies

[runic ether]

at least both c6 sara and thoma are great

[glossy latch]

I already had C6 Thoma lmao

[runic ether]

o shit lol

wait okay actually i didnt know what

*that

uhh

c6 thoma changes some things actually

for wrio and arle

technically haitham

every time thoma makes his blazing barrier either by using it or refreshing, it buffs normal, charged, and plunge by 15% for 6s

this gives it a technical 100% uptime on a 15% buff to all of arle, wrio, and haitham damage

[glossy latch]

Oh, huh

Yeah I use him for "solo" Arle occasionally

[glossy latch]

He'd be good in Burnmelt Wrio, but I dont really have a good Dendro option there now

[runic ether]

emilie?

wrio emilie thoma bennett is a solid way to go about it

[glossy latch]

Well Emilie is being used with Kinich

[runic ether]

dendro mc then

actually tho if ur doing

burn/burgeon kinich

im guessing its kinich/emilie/bennett?

last slot can be xq?

[versed pawn]

Otherwise only nahida and I think yao yao can apply offfielder dendro So Thomas firewaves keep burn up

[glossy latch]

Kinich Emilie Dehya is the core rn

Bennett has the issue of too many teams wanting Benny

[runic ether]

yea

lol

u can use benny w wrio, arle, and kinich

we really need another bennett bad

heres hoping mavuika

in 5.3

[glossy latch]

Tbh I dont think my Arle needs Benny

I guess what I could do is

[runic ether]

thats kinda true tbh

[glossy latch]

Wrio/Thoma/Emilie/?
Kinich/Dendro MC(?)/Benny/Dehya
Arle
Whatever the hell I do with Navia

[runic ether]

but at least knowing u have the c6 thoma, hes really viable as a soft-benny replacement

shoot

[glossy latch]

Although

[runic ether]

i forgot u had navia too who also wants bennett

will you throw pulls at xilonen for navia?

[glossy latch]

Does Melt remove Burning, or is the pyro just reapplied?

Nah

[runic ether]

melt would remove burning depends

if too much cryo is applied at once it will

[glossy latch]

If it does I might need to put Xiangling on Wrios team

[runic ether]

this would happen if u had 2x cryo

[glossy latch]

But then I have 3 DPS on just one team

[runic ether]

wrio xiangling dendro mc or yaoyao and thoma is fine tbh

may be a bit too much pyro tho cus of xl but then u are getting melts

so itslike ok

[glossy latch]

Navia can have Furina I suppose

Something like Navia/Furina/Jean/Kachina

[runic ether]

anemo doesnt kick navia passive up

u can do like

dori

or kuki

or diona

or any element healer thats not dendro or anemo

[glossy latch]

Ah, right

Mmh, thats frustrating, because I dont really have a great healer otherwise, but I also dont wanna surrender the geo resonance since its quite strong

[runic ether]

who do u have for healing?

quite literally any of the other element healers should be able to handle furina healing

even if the fanfare stacks dont get to max every time

[glossy latch]

Let me see

I have Dori, Kuki, Diona, Barbara (I think shes a healer), Jean, Charlotte

Qiqi technically

I believe XQ doesnt heal enough

Hmmm

God theres really no good pyro support (or any really) besides Benny is there

I guess I dont need to have all the teams be fully seperate at the same time

I can just rotate between them

Also Imaginarium theatre is kinda frustrating

[runic ether]

barbara is actually good here

[runic ether]

yea it wants a ton of characters built

even if at 80

but yea

[glossy latch]

Is Barbara good?

I legit never see her ever even mentioned

[runic ether]

she is good

shes just niche

she has really good healing and her hydro app is perfect for nilou bloom

she used to be even more busted in said team

outside of that, her healing is super nice

[glossy latch]

Does she heal off-field?

[runic ether]

its a big burst heal and then gone

tldr goes

[glossy latch]

Hm, not ideal for Furina is it

[runic ether]

her e heals over time

for whoever is on field

and then 2 instances of damage

one at .5s and the other at 1s

and then her burst does a big team wide heal

it is actually good for furina bc barbara can max out the fanfare off that heal alone

and then she also decreases stamina consumption for anyone under her skill

and then her last passive is somewhat useless outside of on-field dps barbara (she has insane normals multiplier)

[glossy latch]

Eh might work for Navia, Ill see

For now Ill focus on maxing out Kinich

[runic ether]

ye for sure

[versed pawn]

It does that's why u use for example nahida and Thoma nahida can consistently apply dendro to targets cryo doesn't interact with dendro but the firewaves Thomas burst does do so it applies burning which is melt by wrio and the cycle repeats until nahidas application runs out

[long tree]

https://tenor.com/view/illumination-asian-man-enlightened-oh-okay-gif-16379366

0.3%

[copper steppe]

genuine question what the hell does merlin claw even mean

the title has been thrown around by so many character and i still don’t understand

[patent swift]

A merlin is a type of bird

She's as fast and sharp as one basically

Just a cool sounding title for her

[copper steppe]

i guess that makes sense

[summer hornet]

https://youtu.be/HyS-McxYXpU?feature=shared

The ending caught me off guard lol

(still no English dub)

[mortal iron]

https://fxtwitter.com/figsoku/status/1839470857896554587?s=46&t=6RhZniitOUT5jwU_I2rbdw

[slow raft]

https://vxtwitter.com/AK_CN_Shitpost/status/1839591969573777656

Neat

[slow raft]

Oh, don gets the carmilla ego? Reeaaaal subtle pm

That aside, she looks good with long hair

[mortal iron]

one step closer to c6 candace

https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/gift?code=KALF66CLGXKM
https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/gift?code=XSME6NV4GX2Z
https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/gift?code=PT5WP6D5GXJ9

stream codes

xilonen Chiori phase 1, Nahida ht phase 2 banners (act surprise if you did know)

[simple wind]

https://x.com/alterigo06/status/1839564400174285070?s=61&t=cBZvUrdAQBg9SBrQp2_2KA

Bondforged Alterigo (@alterigo06) on X

[In the Arms of the Goddess]

Happy 6th Anniversary, Dragalia Lost!
#ドラガリお絵かき部

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 7:15 AM

I didn’t ask to be hit in the feels like this this morning

[runic ether]

cryo still holding off lol

[slow raft]

https://vxtwitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1839599042986414280 potentially the first useable defend skill???

[long tree]

@simple wind this guy is good right? He's one of those superfest exclusives?

[simple wind]

He’s one of the best units in the game atm

[long tree]

Actually good battle cats pull??

[simple wind]

Yessir

[copper steppe]

i lost the 50/50 for robin

its joever

got gepard instead

he’s e2 now

and also a yanqing from silver tickets

[astral drift]

running out of rare prisms

[mortal iron]

i didnt know they updated hoyolab to see all the stuff now

[summer hornet]

I'm genuinely surprised lol

Guess I'm rolling for Nahida

[mortal iron]

Is this the first chiori rerun I can't remember

[runic ether]

it is indeed

same amount of reruns as shenhe

btw

[mortal iron]

We need a cryo renaissance man this is sad

[runic ether]

citlali

[mortal iron]

If wrio c1 was in his base kit, I would've picked him up

I have ayaka, then I just...never use her, so I got shenhe thinking it would make me use her, I was wrong

[glossy latch]

I still wish Wrios kit worked more like Danjin from WuWa

Where the elemental skill button is basically a second attack button that changes based on what autoattack youre on

[runic ether]

this is how i hope lighter will play in zzz

[runic ether]

okay fully done with the new zzz chapter it was actually really solid as a story

nothing groundbreaking but it was entertaining and i was surprised by more than a few things

could have probably been a lil bit longer

[runic ether]

ah finally. off field pyro

[glossy latch]

Thatd be cool

[runic ether]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1frb3tr/lighter_full_kit_reveal_by_leifa/

speaking of

it seems hes all about manipulating his autos with dodges and his skill seems to be a parry of sorts building up to a big punch

we'll need to see gameplay but from what it sounds its like they rolled lycaon, zhu yuan, and wriothesley into one

[glossy latch]

God I hate the timegate on the upgrade materials

Cant even ascend Kinich to 80

[runic ether]

its the last thing they really need to fix with genshin

hsr and zzz both let u do it whenever

yanagi kit

seems to be a switch hitter

[mortal iron]

Get rid of daily gated on upgrade mats would be great

It's the reason why I'm so put off in building more characters

[runic ether]

one day, they will release a true off field anomaly support

[versed pawn]

Well I guess yanagi wants anyone with fast application so burnice looks like a no brainer I guess since she can just hold ex special for a fast disorder with another anomaly

[runic ether]

yea

tho its not ideal still

its kind of eird

*weird

im guessing 1.4 will have miyabi + an off-field anomaly support that becomes bis for yanagi, burnice, jane, piper, and grace

[versed pawn]

It's probably more solved with the everyone can ult update arround December

Tho I wanna see how they actually pull that

Because if its true I'm building Seth for crit

[runic ether]

i actualyl dont think they will do it

or at least, it wont be exactly everyone can ult on their own

i think a way to do it would be to let the ult pool go over 100

so that u can more readibly build up everyone's ults

[rapid bough]

i feel like there will have to be some sort of ult CD so you can't just dump 3 ults one after the other, still requires planning of some sort

it's also always felt weird to me that decibels have no meaning until you're capped at 3k... what if you can ult after 1000, but each ult costs 1000 dB? idk

[runic ether]

yea thats actually a p good solution

with a cd per ult

[versed pawn]

Ult has to be on a relative high CD tho so it kinda is like the old system otherwise people just keep the dBs and wait

[rapid bough]

what if we just get an ult chain attack at 3k decibels where you cycle through ults in the same way you do chain attacks lol

[runic ether]

could be kinda cool

[long tree]

DAMN I know this is a good one

[glossy latch]

God I forgor how painful farming a new set is

[mortal iron]

Finally after 3 years I can play her

[slow raft]

Love these banners

Also finally after what feels like years, i got horn from the shop

[astral drift]

wtf is this shit

[old galleon]

isn't that just the ||0 kp kiara fight but in main story||

[glossy latch]

Yknow what

[astral drift]

idr it's been a while

[glossy latch]

60/120 for early artifacts aint bad

[astral drift]

did she have 10 turn invincibility?

[old galleon]

3 turns at the start of the fight

and it wasn't invincible it was total damage resist

the invincible in this fight either is removable and you can deal with it that way, or isn't and you can just do ignore invicible stuff

[runic ether]

thats quite good actually

im struggling to get feixiao's new set at eve 40:100 lol

[old galleon]

and hakuno has ignore anti-enforcement def on it which has ignore invincible baked in

[astral drift]

forced supports

fuck that i'm gonna stall out the 10 turns and have himeko beat her face in

[old galleon]

if fgo ever does an hsr collab i'd love himeko to be one of the playables

ofc that'll never happen

[old galleon]

bbased

[astral drift]

oh boy there are still 6 chapters

patiently waiting for the next translation to drop

[glossy latch]

Genshin not HSR

Its alright but I can do better eventually™️

Just need to upgrade his weapon now to have him be usable

[versed pawn]

sunday is a strange patch day for wuwa

anyway gib shorekeeper today

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-nanami-pgr-nanami-punishing-gray-raven-gif-11269232440809061481

[old galleon]

finally got to oath amagi, so that's that done

shinano probably gets an oath at some point too, but rn i'm conserving the remaining ring i have

[runic ether]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1frxdl5/zzz_13_beta_lighter_animations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

god damn

lighter + some yanagi anims

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1frxe4g/zzz_13_beta_yanagi_animations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

and the inverse

yanagi's model honestly is a bit bland compared to even some npcs in this game but her anims are p goos

*good

[rapid bough]

her chain attack, ult, and def assist all look sick

she's got that classic aesthetic of doing 100 slashes and then having the dramatic pause to sheathe a sword (or in this case adjust her glasses lol) as all the slashes hit at once

free badass points

but yeah i think since her introduction as an NPC, her design has struck me as kind of basic for an S-rank

honestly i think that about miyabi too

if nagi is any indication they'll just make up for it with the animations/style being exceedingly badass

which i am fine with

i can't handle having to pull for all these characters i want, ZZZ just keeps cooking

[runic ether]

miyabi will get updated too

[old galleon]

https://i.imgur.com/aCMpTmQ.png

earth+synth human party bonus made this one pretty free since helena and galliard are good now

https://i.imgur.com/GNVL9G4.png

similar except this time it's earth+kms+machinery, so just swapping out galliard and his bearer for shannon alter and shannon was enough

[glossy latch]

Yeah thats K' alright

[long tree]

I had to see this so you all have to as well

https://x.com/ceoofcalydon/status/1840031076854399090?s=46

CeoOfBurnice (@CeoofCalydon) on X

Twitter · Sep 28, 2024, 2:09 PM

[glossy latch]

Yeah maybe Lighter will make me enjoy ZZZ more

I mean he is literally just K'

[slow raft]

https://x.com/BigBro_Middle/status/1839366522076279286

chain muncher ricardo (@BigBro_Middle) on X

done.

Twitter · Sep 26, 2024, 6:08 PM

[rapid bough]

tho... warm...

[runic ether]

he realy is k' lmao

[glossy latch]

Probably has a good amount of on-field time too

Welp, guess its time to save

[runic ether]

stunners do yea

big difference between stun + defense

defenders have low field time overall

[runic ether]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1frybkc/13_beta_arank_knightboo_and_his_trusty_steed_via/

fhsngm

he

[versed pawn]

Yanagi looks great want

[old galleon]

https://i.imgur.com/IYGgxBu.png

it is 2024, elseal still makes water weak content free

i even nerfed the party by using cyrus in the front instead of ilulu, didn't make a difference

[old galleon]

napoli acquired

so i own all the pr7 ships now

now i'm just one ibuki away from having all the research ships across all seasons

[old galleon]

decided for ibuki that i'll push azuma, hatsuzuki, and noshiro muse

never really had reason to use azuma before, and now i do, so i will

plus, setting aside gameplay considerations, i just like azuma

(i do think azuma herself is a bit underrated bc she gets compared to all the other rainbow cb, but she should hold up in comparison to the golds, esp in terms of damage

[old galleon]

grand vane is real

(and he's wind, not water lmao)

looks like a pretty obnoxious tank with okay damage potential

you want him to die 3 times asap to enable the rest of his kit lmao

also i guess dark florence exists as a dark crest/skill support, for all your manadiver/s magus needs

oh and vane's weapon is just another in the vein of fenie's, where it's a one-off you use as an axe mc mh and nothing else

i don't see it being used as a standard grid piece, anyway

the one regular skill it has on it is med hp/med stamina, but wind primal has other ways of getting those

did a couple yolos bc i can, got trolled by ssr spinnah and an ewiyar summon dupe

[simple wind]

God some of the hints for the battle cats murder mystery hint are hilarious

A Morse code message made out of cats and tank cats

[long tree]

Did they change who the murderer is for en?

[glossy latch]

Oh, you dont need to be dendro for the dendro res shred set

... thats actually really convenient

[runic ether]

ye lol

zhongli is a very popular deepwood holder

as is kuki

[glossy latch]

Im thinking Dehya in Kinich Emilie burning

She doesnt do much damage anyway

[mortal iron]

oh yeah i use dehya in kinich emilie burning

i might slap deepwood on dehya so i can put the burning set on emilie

[glossy latch]

Still unsure on the last teammember

Eh Ill burn that bridge when I get to it

[mortal iron]

benny

[glossy latch]

Unfortunately I only have one benny and multiple teams that want benny

[mortal iron]

ah

[glossy latch]

Also wait

[mortal iron]

what's your roster?

[glossy latch]

Kinich is just going to have Mavuika as his bis support due to nightsoul boosting his cannon again isnt he

Uh

Xiangling, Benny, Thoma, Yanfei, Dehya and I think thats all the relevant Pyros

[mortal iron]

i guess put thoma, just for shielding i guess?

i sometimes use kazuha

[glossy latch]

Ill see, I have to finish levelling his skills first

And get the final ascension at least

... and maybe some better artifacts

[mortal iron]

that's fine, yeah focus on the build

[glossy latch]

60 (Without the buff) over 120 is fine but it can be better

[glossy latch]

If Kavehs roommate was non-binary, would they be called Altheythem

[runic ether]

https://tenor.com/view/drmanhattan-watchman-delete-erase-gif-4932378

[glossy latch]

Goddammit you didnt let me do the second pun >:[

[runic ether]

changing it to this bc it sounded heavier than intended

[glossy latch]

Fair

[runic ether]

p sure thats 100:120 with the buff so damn thats really strong

[glossy latch]

It is

Could be better, I had to use a crit circlet over cd

[runic ether]

just look for some more cdmg over time

[runic ether]

walked into some lingsha testing thinking "man she probs really needs boothill or firefly"

walking away thinking "man, does she even need boothill or firefly?"

[mystic python]

Ye she seems really good just for general use

Also has follow-ups for that archetype

[runic ether]

super surprised cus i was fully expecting hoyo to sell her as premium support for boothill/firefly

[idle grove]

https://x.com/FranLu07/status/1841092848105767408

Fran (@FranLu07) on X

knight chen

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 12:28 PM

[astral drift]

https://x.com/lancerofpink/status/1841122726150291697?t=Uikt1lv_SbNjyrVrqKup4g&s=19

Elly-chan 🎃 (Halloween) (@lancerofpink) on X

IT’S OFFICIALLY LIZTOBER

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 2:27 PM

[old galleon]

meanwhile in some corner of the north pole, a padoru begins to thaw

[digital marlin]

i cant belive we escaped an actual christmas nero welfare for so long

[rapid bough]

amagi MLB'd... now to save bulins for musashi rerun

[old galleon]

just don't forget to get your 6k protocore this month

1.5 bulins for that endeavor

[rapid bough]

yarp

i was sitting on like 7000 protocore and as soon as the month reset i picked up the 1k from the medal shop and got the last 2 bulins i needed for the amagi MLB

between the new cruise pass + musashi event giving a UR bulin i'm sure i'll be fine to MLB her as soon as she comes back

may try and work in a mogador MLB if musashi ends up rerunning later than anticipated