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slow raft
runic ether
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it also makes me think of the kind of man he was between zero to stay night

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he always had somewhat empty eyes

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which is a fantastic touch

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but then in the stay night flashbacks

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they are dead dead

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and yet he sounded happy

summer hornet
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Zero broke him, but in saving Shirou he saved himself

honest pawn
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Kiritsugu is pathetic but there's a sympathetic nature to him that really makes it impossible for you to hate him

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irresponsible but human

runic ether
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i hated him

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but not his like overall

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like if i met a kiritsugu irl i'd despise this person

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but as a character it was a joy to watch

summer hornet
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I mean if we met him IRL we'd probably be dead lol

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But I get what you're saying

old galleon
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he probably wouldn't have a reason to kill you unless you're a mage or happen to be in a hotel situated in the middle of a grail war

honest pawn
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I'd for sure be friends with him post-Zero

runic ether
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also i was pretty meh on tokoyomi overall until i realized what he was supposed to rep in the story

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and his context when placed next to rin

summer hornet
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Yeeeeeeah

runic ether
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a showcase of despite being the most sane and normal person in the war (among mages), the world of magecraft in this universe is inhefently fucked beyond repair

slow raft
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oh, thoughts on the true nature of the holy grail?

runic ether
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i thought it made perfect sense

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in fact, if it was anything but, i'd thought it would have ruined the show

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since ultimately, zero's main story was about kiritsugu making the right wrong choice

old galleon
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||angry boi coming in clutch||

runic ether
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like, he was right in that the grail should have been destroyed

honest pawn
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personally, I like aspects of FSN but the medium is what holds it back for me

runic ether
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he was right about the plane hijacking

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he was right with lancer and his master

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but he was wrong every single time in his solution

honest pawn
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now make it a tokusatsu and base the main inspiration for it behind a recently post-9/11 world? you have my favorite show of all time right there

summer hornet
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Penny for your thoughts on Diarmuid and his Master(s)?

slow raft
runic ether
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it was a bit more of the same as fsn lancer

old galleon
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fate/cero ruined kayneth for me lol

runic ether
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lancer and berserker in zero didnt do too much for me here

slow raft
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tho i gotta say

runic ether
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ultimately, they were there for saber's development

slow raft
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volumen hydrargyrum rocks immensly

runic ether
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which was really good

mortal iron
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There's a family guy for everything

honest pawn
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runic ether
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the standout servant was archer for me though.
archer > rider > saber > caster > the rest

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i thought i would have liked saber more

old galleon
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he's a standout basically everywhere he shows up

honest pawn
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the VN does saber better imo

runic ether
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perhaps

slow raft
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gil is one of the best but archer gil is still the lowest rated form of his for me tbh

honest pawn
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especially stuf like ha

runic ether
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i feel like for how popular/renowned she is

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i expected more

runic ether
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from fsn and from zero

old galleon
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archer gil gets bonus points for his interaction with hakunon in her animation : ^)

slow raft
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ruler > caster > archer imo

summer hornet
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Caster > Kid >> Archer for me lol

old galleon
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as for saber, her time to shine is definitely stay night

slow raft
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i wont judge kid cause i havent watched prisma illiya outside of oath under snow

runic ether
summer hornet
honest pawn
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do NOT watch prillya

runic ether
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my sister told me that

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yep

slow raft
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i wasnt planning on it

honest pawn
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watch Cardcaptor Sakura instead

slow raft
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i already have

old galleon
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ruler gil
i still need to finish samurai remnant lol

honest pawn
runic ether
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i have not (i probably wont)

old galleon
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but i can't complain too much about him from what i'd played

runic ether
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the only thing is that i remain confused as to what exactly qualifies you for a rider class actually

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i kinda get it but atm it feels like its just

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"we want to add a second lancer/saber/archer and they were somewhat famous for riding a horse/vehicle"

slow raft
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alternate condition is "alot of potential noble phantasms"

old galleon
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and by all accounts archer is just "we wanted to add a second saber and swords can be used as projectiles, so fuck it"

runic ether
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i guess this makes sense tho

slow raft
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axtually, why is reines a rider

old galleon
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can't she ride trimmau

slow raft
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l-lewd

old galleon
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and/or sima yi lore

honest pawn
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fgo archer is a surprisingly faithful progression of the character from fsn

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man can't stop being the GOAT wherever he goes

slow raft
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but youre right, i think trimmaru trnasforms into a horse for one of the card attacks

slow raft
runic ether
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oh and also is assassin a relevant class... ever? besides sasaki's duel with saber, zero has shown that assassin is more or less fodder for most if not all servants

old galleon
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i'd say it's pretty relevant in heaven's feel

slow raft
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assasin is a relvent class theoretically

summer hornet
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In a traditional/proper Fuyuki War it's as filler as Berserker, technically

slow raft
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but it would be boring in most cases if they did their job properly

summer hornet
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^^

slow raft
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"kill the master" isnt half as fun as a battle between legends

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thats why sasaki is the goat nyaruhodo

runic ether
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i think not just from a narrative sense, it's also hard to convince an audience that a larger than life hero would fall to assassin in a usual setting

old galleon
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unless it's kiritsugu doing it

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if anything you can think of him as almost like a pseudo-assassin since actual assassin is what it is

summer hornet
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A "pseudo" "Assassin"

slow raft
old galleon
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OFFER THY NECK

summer hornet
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Kama and Shiki probably shouldn't count lol

old galleon
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obligatory "shiki killing servants" discourse

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but i was referring to gramps

runic ether
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thats a name and a half circling back from melty blood

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its the same shiki right?

summer hornet
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Yeah, then my mind started considering other exceptions

runic ether
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blue boy with glasses?

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or his alt

summer hornet
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Wait

runic ether
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or the girl shiki

old galleon
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i was referring to the one from knk, not tsukihime

runic ether
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ryougi shiki is the one

old galleon
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but you could theoretically switch the two

runic ether
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yea whats the canon behind tsukihime/melty blood and fate?

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im guessing that shiki was added to fgo

old galleon
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ye, ryougi shiki's a year 1 servant

runic ether
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hence the discourse

old galleon
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they did the kara no kyoukai collab waaaay back when

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but i'm pretty sure the discourse is older than fgo

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since being able to see someone's death lines and cut through them to kill them is kinda bullshit

runic ether
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cus its a whole multiverse/alt timelines?

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to my understanding

summer hornet
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FGO just evolved the discussion

old galleon
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iirc the world of knk is supposed to be a world where servants don't exist

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but people like powerscaling talk

runic ether
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yea lol

copper steppe
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yes multiverses exist, there a guy that can even travel between them

summer hornet
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FGO kinda pushed the power levels of the Fate side of the franchise to a level where the Tsukihime cast couldn't keep up

honest pawn
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Arcueid still solos everyone in the setting that isn't a LB7 spoiler tho

slow raft
old galleon
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based

summer hornet
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Dead Apostles was the main thing Nasu was worried about, I believe?

slow raft
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no, thats the church, silly

honest pawn
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the only DA Nasu needs to worry about is Noel

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bro is on a hitlist for concocting that... thing

summer hornet
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But it led to them declaring Tsukihime and Fate as alternate regions of the multiverse, based on the relevancy of vampires and Heroic Spirits

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And then Tsukihime Remake happened, to redefine/buff a lot of the DA and Tsukihime crew

copper steppe
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we still have little to no info about dead apostles

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we know mostly their biology

slow raft
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do we even have the full list at this point?

summer hornet
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we know it's different now, but we don't know them all iirc

runic ether
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bringing it all back, what other fate shows are worth watching. i was given clear warning to stay away from prisma illya and i have heard others say awful things about the show so thats a skip

slow raft
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heavens feel methinks

copper steppe
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oh and for people who don’t know dead apostles are like vampires who were once human

summer hornet
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If you wanted to watch Oath Under Snow you could, but the logical progression point is Heaven's Feel imo

slow raft
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lord el melloi case files

runic ether
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okay i was told about the case files thats the show with waver right?

slow raft
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oath under snow is p solid too yea

runic ether
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sequel show

old galleon
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case files has waver, yes

runic ether
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i was told that strange fake will be worth watching

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but its not out yet

old galleon
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i can't really judge the anime since, yeah, it's not out yet

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but i enjoy the ln

summer hornet
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Strange Fake is great, but you'll want to know who people are from Case Files for maximum impact

old galleon
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so if it's a halfway decent adaptation it should be fine

summer hornet
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The prologue episode was dropped already

runic ether
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cool

slow raft
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isk if id reccomend apocrypha
op is good tho

copper steppe
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oh yeah whispers of dawn

runic ether
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okay so then i guess i'll watch case files then

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i liked waver

honest pawn
copper steppe
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appcrypha is ok, not bad but not good

old galleon
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case files was pretty good imo

runic ether
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heaven's feel will be on the backburner eventually

summer hornet
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Babylonia also exists since you liked Gil

runic ether
slow raft
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super affection PauseChamp

runic ether
slow raft
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yea

copper steppe
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yep yep

runic ether
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would i need more context before watching it?

slow raft
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eh

old galleon
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it probably wouldn't hurt

copper steppe
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sorta

summer hornet
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It's relatively standalone and defines the important stuff in the beginning

runic ether
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i can get a lore dump before it anyways

honest pawn
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carnival phantasm (don't abbreviate it) is more slice-of-life comedy and it features characters from tsukihime/melty blood too, it's more of a general taipu moon celebration

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but it's funny as fuck

old galleon
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batylon is kind of the last singularity before the end of part 1 of fgo

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i do remember them giving a litle context but idr how much

runic ether
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maybe at some point

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i think i'd be more into new parts of the canon hence im skipping heaven's feel for now since thats the other fsn route

copper steppe
slow raft
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clearly you need to watch Today's Menu for the Emiya Family

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essential for the lore, really

runic ether
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maybe i'll see apocrypha or babylonia before too cus at this point i've been kinda tuckered out from that whole slew of servants and the same cast

summer hornet
copper steppe
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lol cooking emiya

old galleon
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apocrypha is not what you want to watch if you're tired of a slew of servants

runic ether
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let him cook

old galleon
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the whole point of that is that it's a 7v7 holy grail war

runic ether
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o

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i mean

slow raft
runic ether
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as long as i dont see the same set of sabers/archers/assassins/riders

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etc etc

runic ether
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new servants/masters

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is what i mean

old galleon
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you'd get new characters, yes

runic ether
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new characters

copper steppe
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oh yeah apocrypha does have that

old galleon
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although some older characters are referenced ||and even used||

summer hornet
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I don't think there's a single returning character in the Apocrypha master/servant roster

old galleon
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there's a certain saint of france who has an appearance in a prior property

runic ether
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okay reading the synopsis of case files i think i'd be very into this one

slow raft
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its neat ye

summer hornet
copper steppe
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yeah case files is more like a detective case

honest pawn
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THE REGEND NEVER DIES

old galleon
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okay i walked into that one

summer hornet
copper steppe
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the real and true dragon slayer

runic ether
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im guessing the kojirou meme is fgo related

old galleon
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yes

slow raft
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yea

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in the france singularity there were alot of dragons wyverns

old galleon
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the singularity of orleans (france) was ravaged by wyverns, and assassins have advantage

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kojirou was a cheap, good option for dealing with the bastards

summer hornet
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Also regend is a misreading of "legend" lol

slow raft
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and sasaki was a 1 star and had an advantagous growth curve

runic ether
long tree
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It’s also funny because they would legit grind everything to a halt just to make you fight more dragons

old galleon
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and on top of all that, iirc the original release in jp, that singularity was a lot harder

slow raft
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and as such, the saviour of france was born

old galleon
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early fgo was something else

long tree
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“We’re almost at the castle, why is there 6 more nodes in this chapter?”

old galleon
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it's no exaggeration to say it survived in large part on the strength of the ip

summer hornet
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Remember when Waver was actually bad? Pepperidge Farm remembers

honest pawn
runic ether
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its a good thing i have zero interest in the fgo gameplay formula

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i have also heard that the gacha elements are pretty shit

summer hornet
honest pawn
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FGO has no auto-battle and there's a lot of grind

copper steppe
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they are

runic ether
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but its like

long tree
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Unfortunately waver is not a waifu so he gets the ex- tier

runic ether
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9 years old?

old galleon
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yup

runic ether
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shit

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thats crazy

long tree
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Yeah it’s one of the older ones

copper steppe
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mhm primordial even

summer hornet
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Granblue is still older but like.... That's not saying a lot

runic ether
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i was doing lines 9 years ago and some ppl where blowing another type of bricks on a different kind of high

slow raft
copper steppe
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i remember when the term gacha wasn’t even a thing

long tree
slow raft
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clairvoiance makes it alot more bearable but still

slow raft
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(also, my sympathies for jp players lmao)

old galleon
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izou based

long tree
summer hornet
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If I was playing on JP time I would not survive

runic ether
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god bless the hoyo leakers

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and the betas

honest pawn
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JP FGO is terrible

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so bad

long tree
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Without clairvoyance the English player base would be the coughing baby next to anniversary’s summer of hell

runic ether
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highly desired characters?

honest pawn
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which is funny because we're in a yugioh server

slow raft
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this summer was laready hell tbh

long tree
runic ether
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shit

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lol

copper steppe
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summer has very desired characters and they are busted

runic ether
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ahhh

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its like that

long tree
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And they run at the same time

summer hornet
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Anniversary, New Year, and Summer are the biggest campaigns

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And Anniversary and Summer are never more than a month apart

slow raft
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well, nothing as busted as castoria, right?

runic ether
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what the fuck

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they say "pay us money like actually"

old galleon
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yeeeeeep

slow raft
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speaking of desired, cant wait for the onslaught at new years

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im over pity but uhh

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well, pray for me

old galleon
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global anni is in june (but happens in july to coincide with anime expo), while jp anni is in late july, and in both cases, those ar esummer months

runic ether
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and fgo is a game with dupes right?

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so its not like

summer hornet
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Dupes aren't quite as important as Hoyo games, but they do make a difference

long tree
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Fgo says save for anni or we will be taking our £900 per unit

runic ether
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that doesnt sound right

old galleon
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yeah that's an exaggeration i think

slow raft
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usually you get one way before pity

copper steppe
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dupes are’t important unless you’re a tryhard or dedicated

slow raft
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unlike in hoyo games

runic ether
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i was gonna say like

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it costs 1200-1500 to get c6 in a hoyo game

long tree
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It’s £129 per 160 ish quarts, which is about 55 summons

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You need 6 of those

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So 6x129

runic ether
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and thats to hit hard pity?

long tree
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Assuming you have to go to pity

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Yeah

slow raft
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so around 250 on average for a 5 star

runic ether
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thats still about

slow raft
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oh its not good

runic ether
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300$ for a single 5 star

long tree
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If an fgo player says they’re happy because they pulled the unit they want, it’s because they didn’t have to take out a mortgage this time

runic ether
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no wonder its been alive 9 years they can just farm their whales like that 😭

slow raft
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people who get np5 servants are scary to me

long tree
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Reminds me of the time gigguk spent like £1k trying to get a 4 star

old galleon
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wasn't that astolfo

long tree
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It was indeed

slow raft
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just rolling for np2 on bazett and shirou was nerve wrecking for me

long tree
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Meanwhile I have np3 astolfo

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Dude wasn’t even on rate up he just likes me

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It’s never the 4 stars you want that spook you

copper steppe
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shout to len and their np5 musashi

slow raft
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"np5"

runic ether
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at least we can relate to the 4 star situation that sucks between hoyo games and fgo

slow raft
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oh right, dupes might not matter and such, but do we wanna tell misty about servant coins

long tree
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Lack of 4 star pity in both is so stupid

old galleon
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i lucked out and have np4 eresh and i'm considering going for np5 next year, although thatd' be the only other thing i try to do until s eresh/ciel drop

copper steppe
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the servant coin tragedy

runic ether
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theres just no guarantee to get the 4 star u want

long tree
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You have to be… I think it’s np9 to max a unit in fgo

old galleon
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but that's def not typical of regular play

long tree
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But if you do that you are so unbelievably stupid with money

old galleon
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still no universal servant coins in 2024

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although honestly i'm unsure whether i'm as annoyed by that as i am at how dirty they did passionlip this summer

long tree
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A causal £7k to max a unit in fgo

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No biggie

slow raft
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i have np2 taira because of some insane luck that will never hapen again (two 5 stars in one 10-roll) np2 muramasa and bazett becuase i couldnt resist
and np2 jeanne as divine punishment for gambling

old galleon
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(for legal reasons this is a joke)

copper steppe
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in minecraft

long tree
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I got my boy Arjuna to np2 and now I’m good for life

slow raft
slow raft
summer hornet
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I currently have about 1350 SQ saved up for next year

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Either it'll be overkill or I'll be high and dry by July

copper steppe
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i have 150 sq, i will not survive winter

long tree
slow raft
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im definitely rolling for rasputin draco and tiamat
so idk if ill have anything left by summer

long tree
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I am too busy pulling for buster aoe extra classes

slow raft
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i mustve missed something

long tree
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Death

copper steppe
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your honor

slow raft
long tree
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I’m going for Tiamat Draco and Barghest this year and anything else is bonus

slow raft
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goodluck getting that 4 star

long tree
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deadinside it’s gonna be a battle i lose to sith again

summer hornet
slow raft
long tree
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(I have np5 regular sith)

slow raft
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Ill try for fire rescue barghest aswell, but idr what the 5 star was on that banner

long tree
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Summer melusine

slow raft
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Eh

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Surely she reruns on a different abnner at some point copium

old galleon
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next year just has the few banners, right?

summer hornet
old galleon
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anni banner is aesc/s morgan

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then there's a banner with s castoria, and a separate one with s melu

summer hornet
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Plus the boys

slow raft
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Right, lancelot is due his summer skin, isnt he

old galleon
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yup

honest pawn
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sigh

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to be both a shirou fan and a buster gorilla

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life is hard

runic ether
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i could have gone harder

versed pawn
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Gimme that last Chevy SyuenPANIKANIMATED

glossy latch
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Bro I havent even gotten her C1 😔

summer hornet
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You were not joking about the eldritch horror, Misty

runic ether
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just look around a bit more

summer hornet
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I would like it to be known that I had things completely under control before Yelan stole my kill

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Also I'm genuinely surprised that Zhiqiong (the NPC lady) listened to our advice and went back to camp

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So should I do Dainsleif's quest next, or the one at the very end of the Chasm (that apparently Itto is supposed to show up in)?

honest pawn
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WASHI JA!!!!

slow raft
digital marlin
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Misty if i can only go for one LC which should it be Fexiao or Robin

old galleon
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i heard you like gacha

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anyway, for obv reasons i prefer the s bb/ciel combo for card farming but this is consistent enough, i think

glossy latch
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Ok Im at 40 rolls down for Kinich, sooo

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... I guess I need 35 more rolls to hit soft pity?

idle grove
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back to farming dragon fangs in fgo...

old galleon
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bronze mat hell is eternal

idle grove
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this is just my punishment for putting the game on hiatus and missing events

digital marlin
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well this even in NA is good for farming fangs

idle grove
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guess which server I'm not playing on

digital marlin
slow raft
long tree
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Okay my favourite meme HSR has right now is Sunday randomly bringing up the dove when people ask him what they want for dinner or any other mundane things

honest pawn
summer hornet
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…that was definitely a depressing storyline

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NGL I sped through most of Paimon’s dialogue because her voice just felt too cheery for the atmosphere of the situation, even when she had more serious lines

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I don’t actually want to know what is, but I want to know if ||the method Dainsleif uses to avoid turning into a Hilichurl|| has been revealed

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No explanations, just a yes or no

summer hornet
summer hornet
long tree
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For whatever reason, the English voice director for a while kept demanding paimons voice go higher and higher

mortal iron
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English isn't even a bad dub but the voice director is uh...makes alot of weird decisions

long tree
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People hated it and now it’s being back tracked

mortal iron
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Iirc it was neuv? Va re-recorded all his lines coz he sounded way too mean the first time

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And didn't fit the scenes, he was unsatisfied with the voice direction given

long tree
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Honestly paimons high voice was unsustainable

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It got to the point you could tell it was straining the va

mortal iron
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I don't like the voice director for the dub

long tree
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Like how do you get a high pitch voice actor and then make them peak their range

mortal iron
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Genuinely, hate their direction of paimon

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It genuinely does destroy alot of her scenes

long tree
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Never forget the barbara incident

mortal iron
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Yeah that was weird

runic ether
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paimon has gotten way better in the last few

long tree
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Yeah she’s a lot more bearable

glossy latch
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How do I have 40 Hydroculi left to find???

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I feel like I have scoured the map already

mortal iron
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Locked behind 100 hour questline

glossy latch
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I need like 41 more sigils and I have no idea where to find any more

versed pawn
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Welp I also miss an entire level in sumeru and fontaine one day I feel like doing the reputation stuff and get the compass

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Can't bother to check 271 locations Hahaa

summer hornet
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I have zero basis for this besides the opening’s ominous foreshadowing and the OST, but Sumeru is giving me slight LB6 vibes

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(I know I was talking about completing the interlude quest with Itto, but they said I could go straight to Sumeru after Dainsleif lol)

runic ether
#

its a really good quest

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but yea sumeru is great tio

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*too

long tree
#

Someone remind me does the fgo event go away next reset or the one after

old galleon
#

should be the one after

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if the time remaining shows "1 day", that means you're fine

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if the time remaining shows "2 hours" or whatever, your'e not

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yeah the event ends 26 and a half hours from now

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so if you haven't perma'd iyo and gotten her np5/coins/max ascended yet, get on it

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max ascending her is free, you get all the mats as a natural consequence of doing story; coins and one np dupe of iyo are in event shop and her other 3 dupes are in post-story fights

long tree
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Ye I'll grind for her tomorrow it's 2 am

summer hornet
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I did get NP5, but I don't think I'm gonna clear out the event shop tbh

old galleon
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just make sure you at least get the important stuff

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of what's left, copy of the ce if you don't have 5 copies, servant coins, and any gold fous/lores you want

summer hornet
#

I'll try to grab as much as I can

old galleon
#

ended up caving and buying the musashi skin bc i wanted to play nikke without downloading nikke i think the skin's good enough to merit it, even with her great oath skin

old galleon
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||the ears down is really a nice look on her imo||

old galleon
#

this one's wild

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it uses all of feinne as, galliard, and helena as nukes, and requires feinne not to die at any point

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the extra speed is due to feinne using angel's song: feinne at the end of the turn she uses geo ansem in stellar burst

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i still think she's the only character in the game to straight-up steal a 5* skill from one of her other forms

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works out here since that skill after feinne ns rebalance is a huge nuke with high enough shadow on her

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this one's running 154 shadow, not sure how much lower you can go on it, 255 would obv be ideal

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but yeah the fact something like this is possible for non-gacha only is impressive considering all the bs that goes into this fight

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also shoutout to the thumbnail for incorrectly labeling feinne as a light character

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(and helena too)

old galleon
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kiara got a buff

copper steppe
#

huh i guess that makes sense

old galleon
honest pawn
#

how good is it?

digital marlin
#

Man Extra servants have it good unless your lip

old galleon
slow raft
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removes the demerit, gives 20% party battery, 1 overcharge for 3 turns for party and 30% anti good dmg mod for 3 turns for party

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seems p solid

old galleon
#

partywide 20% battery is nice, and removing pointless demerits is appreciated

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anti-good is also a nice niche

honest pawn
#

wait

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so Kiara has 70% NP charge on herself now

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that's crazy

old galleon
#

not the first character to have 70% self charge spread across 2 skills, but yes

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it helps

slow raft
#

shoulda just slapped a high speed divine words onto the skill smh

summer hornet
#

Kiara really getting all the presents right now

slow raft
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nasu taking every opportunity to treat his faourite iant women to soemthing nice

versed pawn
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im now owner of c 6 chevy

glossy latch
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...

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Mine is still C0

mystic python
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Same but C0 is good enough tbh

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Rest of her cons are kinda w/e

versed pawn
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i played c0 before too its fine

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the other c until 6 okay but not needed

glossy latch
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I know

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But I was pulling for her C6 lmao

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At this point Im getting Kinich before Im getting even one Chev constellation

rapid bough
patent swift
#

Someone should draw feixiao doing raging demon

idle grove
copper steppe
digital marlin
#

he was never a Man whore. It was baseless slander

copper steppe
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the charmony dove…

mental acorn
long tree
#

We move

summer hornet
long tree
#

Finally have a ruler for offensive purposes now, I think I have all my class’ bases covered now

copper steppe
#

yatta

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kukochihiko and mitsunari were pretty cool in the event

summer hornet
#

GudaGuda always has the coolest NPCs

slow raft
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ive just realized that ive been farming 90++ with an np2 iyo becuase i forogto to actually use th eother upgrades lmao

old galleon
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my skill gem situation's a bit weird so i haven't actually been able to invest as much in iyo as i had planned

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so instead of doing 90++ with her i'm doing it with cu alter

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you'd figure a cu alter farming strat would suck but it's reasonably consistent

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but mine's np3 and it's still a range on bb so it's not at all realistic under np3

runic ether
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fuck

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i wish i was recording it

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hit the most cracked af run in withering garden on billy

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one cycled nineveh

glossy latch
#

God this Archon Quest is long

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Itll take a couple days to finish just the first chapter huh

runic ether
#

ye

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the 4.1 part is even longer

glossy latch
#

Blimey

runic ether
#

what a weird kit

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sounds fun but weird

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its like amber but in zzz

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a unique counter and trap-setting gameplay with an aimed shot

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also 2nd time lighter's taunt comes up

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super interested in seeing how it works

glossy latch
#

So another stun unit?

runic ether
#

we dont know

#

i think lighter may be an atk agent

#

but they may be shifting him to a stun

#

as the post says he was listed as an s-rank fire attack agent but hes scaling off impact

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im curious as to how they will cook for him

old galleon
#

after almost a month i'm jumping back into ae

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i took a little bit of a hiatus from it to not get burned out and to do some catchup on some things in azur lane, mainly

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but eastern mythos dropped a few days ago so i'm gonna go work on that

old galleon
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didn't realize eastern mythos was an arknights collab

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lewd

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weird, since judging from how he was using that power, i figured he stole the soul eater rune

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he apparently has a specific target and the castle in the distance is the one in izana

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so i guess someone's finally gunning for genshin's head

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(he won't actually die bc the comic buttmonkey never does)

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anyway, this arc had better give aldo an upgrade, since he's technically part of the dojo in this part of the world

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and the sword he gets from it is hilariously outdated

#

i'd say aldo doesn't really need an update now, and compared to most of the rest of the free case, he doesn't, but

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hp cap being raised without damage per hit cap being raised puts aldo in a bad spot since his best attacks are one hit

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so with proper buffing, characters with several hits on their skills can hit damage cap per hit, doing a lot more damage per use than aldo's one hit nukes

old galleon
#

hey i was right

digital marlin
old galleon
#

no matter what world, time layer, dimension

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genshin will be genshin

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(i don't like genshin, they tried way too hard to write him as some recurring buttmonkey who is very in your face about how "scummy" he is but it's just not funny to me)

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like ffs dude, you rule over territory, fucking act like it

#

but character deaths very rarely happen in ae so the odds of this assassination plot actually succeeding are very slim

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esp since the would-be assassin is a playable character

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on the other hand, normal time layer curio did die in future mythos, and this is a mythos story

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so i guess there's hope

#

but curio was clinically insane, genshin's just an idiot

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well whatever

runic ether
#

lighter 2nd half it seems

#

Agent Record | Tsukishiro Yanagi

"Hello, I'm Tsukishiro Yanagi, Deputy Chief of Section 6."
Tsukishiro Yanagi

"One day, I was so hungry from working overtime that I nearly passed out, but luckily Asaba tossed me a 'lifeline,' and I managed to pull through."
"Because this 'lifeline' was actually a donut."
"That was a joke. Why aren't you laughing...?"
"Wait, Asaba probably never works overtime."

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sokaku is eating all the food for section 6

#

new arcade game dropped

versed pawn
#

Mhh yes glasses

#

Gonna wait for her kit tho

#

Kinda waiting for her and may skip next patch characters for her if her kit looks good enough

runic ether
#

she's also a mostly on-field anomaly character like grace and jane

#

but we'll need to wait for specific kit details still

#

which should be tuesday

runic ether
#

light drip marketing leak

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also confirmed s rank still

summer hornet
timber sigil
#

GFL2 pre-reg available

idle grove
#

peak

timber sigil
#

MP7/Cheeta as pre-reg reward character

runic ether
#

shoot burnice was changed again before live: tldr on it, shes worse for jane but better on her own

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this changes nothing for me but i think this just means lighter is gonna be a strict on-fielder

#

with some off-field app or yanagi is gonna be a true off fielder

rapid bough
#

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuck

#

my polys can't take this

#

even though i'm here for the waifus i feel kinda bad for the husbando enjoyers (and my polys, for this reason)

#

that'd make 5 straight female limited characters lol

#

wait 6, i forgot ellen lol. they've seriously only dropped female limited characters since release unless i'm trippin

runic ether
#

seth

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lighter should be the 2nd 5 star for 1.2 and then we get harumasa in 1.3

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so it'll be 2 guys back to back

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big daddy is also a playable model and icons and its possible the furry guys with pulchra will also be playable

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tho its unlikely they are 5 stars

#

just lighter and harumasa

#

but yes its disproportionate here but its the same in all hoyo games

#

hi3rd has no playable men at all

#

genshin has a lot more women > men playable

rapid bough
runic ether
#

ah thats what u meant

#

he'll go into standard banner as all a-ranks will

rapid bough
#

wonder when we'll get our first s-rank to go into the standard banner

runic ether
#

it should be at least a year

#

hsr has yet to add any

#

genshin adds one about every year-ish

#

cant think of any s-rank rn thats "standard worthy"

#

then again hoyo tossed dehya in there

#

her kit in genshin wasnt great sure but she was a main character for one of the best genshin story arcs and had a ton of fans

rapid bough
#

honestly yanagi kinda has standard banner s-rank energy to me lol

#

her design is pretty simple compared to the other s ranks we've got

runic ether
#

a little lol but she is anomaly electric

#

2 electric anomalies in standard would be weird cus they both (from what we know of yanagi) are on fielders

rapid bough
#

fair

#

caesar is dummy strong and very versatile due to her off-field buffs being so strong, maybe they make her standard for how generic she is copium

#

(not gonna happen)

runic ether
#

we will know once beta drops how she plays

runic ether
#

with her buffs and all, she'll be a staple for many teams

rapid bough
#

gotta assume if any s-rank goes standard it'll be a defender tho

#

only class to not have an s-rank in the standard banner

runic ether
#

maybe

#

we did start with just ben

rapid bough
#

only class to not have an s-rank period actually lol, until caesar

runic ether
#

the thing is that defenders are kinda busted

#

ben is really strong and so is seth and caesar is looking to be just as if not more

#

defenders may be their premium class

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just cus their kits naturally lead them to doing a ton by themselves

#

caesar has great damage, good daze, excellent buffs, grouping, incredible defense, and perfect synergy with any character

#

idk how they sell a new defender without making them worse than her in some ways or going fuck it for specificity and making them perfect for x/y situation

rapid bough
#

it's funny because defenders seemed like the odd one out when i read through all the classes, like they didn't really have a niche of their own, they just took bits and pieces from all the other classes and added shields lol

#

and i think that's still more or less true, more and more they just do a shitton of Good Things to compensate for the fact they shouldn't be as good at stunning, anomaly, damage, etc. as classes dedicated to those mechanics

#

basically just a jack of all trades, but also, because stun/anomaly/damage characters typically eat up on-field time, defenders so far have more off-field mechanics

#

and strong off-field mechanics/buffs are an easy ticket to GOAT status since they work anywhere

#

they kinda feel more like supports but with shielding to me lol

runic ether
#

and huge damage

#

they are jack of all trade types

#

seth dps is great but so are his buffs and his shielding is nice

#

but he doesnt has the best dmg or buffs of course

#

same with ben

#

incredible damage. good buffs and nice shields

#

not the best in slot

#

caesar is more of the same but she has way better shielding

rapid bough
#

i only use seth for his parry + switch back to jane lol

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plus launching his EX special in the middle if you have the energy

runic ether
#

thats fine for jane bc jane wants the whole field time

#

but if used outside of jane, seth damage is super relevant

#

his instant charge blade tech is important cus it maxes out dps thresholds

rapid bough
#

his what now

runic ether
#

sorry lol his gameplay is just like monster hunter charge blade/switch axe

#

theres a way to fire it off faster than usual

#

i dont know seth tech well cus i dont play him much

rapid bough
#

i figured that's what you meant, i just want to know if it's possible after a parry

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b/c the timing on getting his EX in after a parry while still being able to switch to jane is tight

runic ether
#

i believe its off some other way to trigger it

rapid bough
runic ether
#

its off the swap into his or after using his chain/ult

rapid bough
#

sad!

#

since yeah in jane comps you can't really charge his EX after a parry or the quick assist to jane goes away

runic ether
#

yea jane is super selfish for buff and field time

#

unfort burnice got nerfed in her off field department too

#

drains less fuel while she's on field, burns more off field

#

and they just did that change too

#

so jane will still be waiting on a new teammate that isnt rina or nicole

#

not surprisingly tho burnice does work well with piper

versed pawn
#

if i pull her she lands in my fire team anyway

#

no point to make the team that is allready so strong stronger

runic ether
#

always want to hit even bigger number

versed pawn
#

i think u get bigger numbers just more big numbers

#

but going from 50 seconds clears to 40 doesnt seem like a selling point for me

glossy latch
#

Btw Natlan is getting a standard 5* right?

runic ether
#

yes

#

not necessarily from natlan

#

but a 5 star from the natlan patches will be in standard

glossy latch
#

Im wondering if its gonna be Xilonen

runic ether
#

i highly doubt it considering how strong she is

#

she has bait c2 as well

#

i have bets it'll be either chasca or madame ping who is supposed to be this patch cycle

mortal iron
glossy latch
#

My logic is that the standard banner is still missing Geo

mortal iron
#

xilonen kit is too good so i doubt she'll be the standard

#

but yeah weird we got 2 pyros and no geos

#

like dehya feels so out of place

#

feels like they were like "shit her kit is total ass, just put her on the standard banner"

runic ether
#

i have a feeling albedo is going to be sent to standard

#

which would be pretty neat cus albedo is good despite the memes

glossy latch
#

Man I wish Neuvilettes kit wasnt so boring

#

I like everything else about the character

long tree
#

SpEeEeEeN

mortal iron
#

neuv is like an uzi to me, i only use it if i have to

#

to mow down my enemies

runic ether
#

i cant be bothered to play him

#

hes boring

#

but hes such a good character

mortal iron
#

yeah im slowly phasing him out in my abyss runs

#

i will break him out if i am skill issuing realling hard

mortal iron
#

the reason why tighnari and dehya were added was because they said before release that they were going to standard

old galleon
#

Azur Lane adds limited pool ships to standard pools all the time

#

I'm not convinced that's a legality issue

mortal iron
#

hmmm, that's what i got told atleast

#

that said, i feel like if they would've albedo ages ago into standard

#

dunno why theyre stopped from doing that

old galleon
#

Probably the same reason other games don't do that

#

To induce an impulse to buy now

mortal iron
#

I guess it does set an expectation if it does happen

old galleon
#

......palsifal dungeon, my beloved?

mortal iron
#

Finally

versed pawn
#

Currently just grinding the card game

#

Tho to the last 2 - 3% in natlan after the last reputation quest since we get treasure Compas at lvl 3 allready

mortal iron
#

My lifelong goal is to 100% all of genshin achievements

versed pawn
#

My brother actually is working on that

#

He is currently farming leylines

honest pawn
#

well I guess we know what class Sasuke would be in FGO

#

despite the fact that Shirou's a saber

summer hornet
#

TIL that Hoyoverse gives you an extra email when you make it to Sumeru’s story lol

astral drift
spice frigate
#

Well... thats something

summer hornet
#

Gotta love hitting pity early

#

…or did you get 2 5-stars in a single pull

mystic python
#

Separate pulls given the timestamps

#

1 and a half minutes of processing the Keqing before next pull

summer hornet
#

If that’s not super messed up I don’t know what is

runic ether
#

i love the doctor

summer hornet
#

I know this statement is probably perfectly logical at your point in the story but from my stance it just sounds like you’re wilding lol

runic ether
#

no lol the doctor is still a pos for what he did to collei lol

#

when even your other co-workers hate you

#

its a new level

summer hornet
#

Oh dang

#

Okay, so there’s no problem with my saying that I would be perfectly fine with seeing him [REDACTED] in real time nyaruhodo

#

Tablet typos smh

runic ether
#

hes supposed to be playable eventually

runic ether
summer hornet
#

Oh my gosh that’s what it is

#

He’s the Beryl of the Fatui

#

(FGO reference, sorry- ||creepy werewolf guy who looks like Markiplier, was so twistedly obsessed with Mash that the peaceful doctor went off on him, and one of the other Crypters literally killed themselves just to make sure he died for good||)

#

At any rate, I made it up to the point where I need to head to the port town

runic ether
#

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runic ether
summer hornet
#

Tighnari is interesting, and I already liked Nilou from the bit I saw in the summer story, but Dehya is actually really cool too lol

#

And the NPCs are getting a LOT of mileage here, and more effectively than the other regions too

runic ether
#

nilou has no brain cells she's great

#

but yea tighnari and dehya are super cool

runic ether
#

oh my goodness gracious

#

he is a stunner

#

and animation drop means he is an s rank

rapid bough
#

lucy backstory hint + showing a softer side to caesar is cool though

runic ether
#

we had known about lucy's backstory a lil bit if u explore around the city

#

sometimes u see her in lumina square talking to some older lady asking her how she is and if her father has become less strict due to her outfit

#

and she responds by saying "she doesnt talk to him anymore"

#

or when u see caesar and burnice around and they mention the bounty for finding lucy is absurd

old galleon
#

i think this is my first > 1m run

#

(on nagato meta at least)

old galleon
#

okay i've gotten like 5 or 6 shadow in the last 7 runs after being on a dreadful drought

#

which would be the equivalent of the same number of stone edge misses in the same number of attacks

#

good grief

slow raft
glossy latch
#

Im pretty sure that Arlecchino says something along the lines of "The Doctor is lucky he's my colleague else he'd be six feet under already"

long tree
#

Yup, she really doesn’t like people that mess with children

#

That goes double for her own children too

mortal iron
#

tough event

glossy latch
#

Huh, did they not have figured out Navias kit when they made the story quest yet?

runic ether
#

they did

#

her quest came out when she came out

#

or do u mean when navia is most involved in the 4.x quest?

#

cus shes actually a major player throughout all of it

glossy latch
#

4.0 quest yeah

#

When she fights off the Guardemechs she doesnt use her Umbrella cannon at all

runic ether
#

ah yea that one was 4.0

#

so she wasnt in the game yet

glossy latch
#

I guess the weapon was decided early, the kit was not

runic ether
#

ye

#

tho i think we had seen navia in concept art and she had a big gun/shotgun

#

tho her full kit wasnt finalized then so no reason to have it

#

clorinde was locked in though

glossy latch
#

... I wonder what the name for Wriothesleys ideology is

#

Its not exactly anarchist but also not ... not anarchist?

runic ether
#

hes quite interesting

#

also hes basically batman

#

kinda

glossy latch
#

I thought that was Diluc

runic ether
#

diluc is batman

#

wrio is kinda like batman

#

actually green arrow is a better comparison?

#

hes fun either way

glossy latch
#

I do like him in the story so far

old galleon
#

this feels unintended

#

as the description says, most of the video is alma countering on turn 3

patent swift
#

Hoyo's working on a creature collector, as well as 4 other games

mortal iron
#

Fucking finally

long tree
#

All caught up

glossy latch
#

I got Kujo Sara C6 before Chev C1

#

What the fuck

runic ether
#

holy

mortal iron
#

sara is calling for you to be a raiden main

copper steppe
#

also got fei xiao

#

can she work without robin

long tree
#

Use sparkle or bronya you’ll be fine

copper steppe
#

wel i do have bronya

summer hornet
#

...I gotta get back on that myself lol

copper steppe
#

we still have plenty of time before lb7

summer hornet
#

Yes, but I blinked and it's already September

glossy latch
#

I aint playing Raiden smh

summer hornet
#

Did you roll her?

glossy latch
#

No

old galleon
glossy latch
#

Im getting Kinich purely for the grappling hook

#

Also Im up to archon quest 4 now

#

3 was long as hell

summer hornet
#

I got through the first chunk of the story, and I know it's good and I've enjoyed it so far- I'm just putting off finishing it

copper steppe
long tree
#

The most bullshit bit about traum is you don’t get 10 quartz for finishing it

summer hornet
#

*not yet

old galleon
#

doing the free quests still counts for free quest competion, at least

long tree
#

Nah I need those gems now I want Orion as my archer

summer hornet
#

Orion, or Orion?

old galleon
#

artemis, or that guy artemis chokes in that guy's np?

long tree
#

The dude

#

He’s buster coded and goes ungabunga

#

When I’m not using him I’m just gonna headcanon that jalter is burning him

old galleon
#

artemis keeps him in a perpetual chokehold to stop him from hitting on other women

long tree
#

I don’t have Artemis though so I’ll have to keep him in line with like

#

Godjuna

summer hornet
#

Tamamo Lancer?

long tree
#

Don’t think I have her either

idle grove
#

tamalancer my beloved

long tree
#

I’d say lady Merlin but I have a feeling she’d actually sleep with him on the chance that it manifests Artemis and pisses her off

old galleon
#

i mean if we're going the "let's physically harm cheaters with other servants" route, everyone has kiyohime

long tree
#

I don’t

old galleon
#

bruh

summer hornet
#

I wish I was willing to do that

old galleon
#

3* give 1 sq for each bond level 6-9

#

so they're valuable for that alone

digital marlin
#

this reminded me of Tropious

long tree
#

Oh wait I have beni Emma lmao he’s gonna have his ears pulled off by bird grandma

summer hornet
#

Oh right the burning discussion

old galleon
#

well the difference between jotlico and trop is that trop burned a limited 5* (gil)

summer hornet
#

based

old galleon
#

kiyo's at least easy to get back

long tree
#

Burning gil is heresy

summer hornet
#

I literally went through this discussion 3+ years ago lol

old galleon
#

#video_games message

#

good lord it's been 6 years

#

7 if you add the extra year from this message

honest pawn
#

oh no

summer hornet
#

Oh that’s

honest pawn
#

messages from me from 2018

summer hornet
#

A lot more than 3 years

old galleon
#

funny thing is that since he used gil as a disposable foodstuff for robin he didn't even get rp out of it

summer hornet
summer hornet
old galleon
#

you need certain requirements to be able to play them by default, usually meaning certain ascension level and bond level

#

i would imagine that's tracked in your spirit record

#

but i'm not gonna test that

long tree
#

Getting my archer ascended because options is always nice (I got him np2 so I figured why not), this man wants hearts I do not have

#

Wait I just realised does this man have an arts steroid with a buster np?

#

Cringe

summer hornet
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Garcher?

old galleon
summer hornet
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He needs his interludes and rank-ups for farming compatibility yeah

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You gotta train like Shirou to fight like Archer

mortal iron
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1 multi, but took like 50 billion pulls on gohan

long tree
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Good man

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Now get teq broly

mortal iron
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IM TRYING!

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im like 130 coins away from him if i dont get him

glossy latch
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Good lord Wriothesley likes his tea

long tree
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Good

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Tea for every drink is part of a brit- I mean balanced diet

mortal iron
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some say his body is tea

versed pawn
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Thank God he didn't dissolve would have giving fontaine a lot of flavour tho

glossy latch
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He almost talks as much about tea as I do

runic ether
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didnt know you were that much a tea guy

slow raft
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you dont know the half of it

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If the rate at which he goes afk in vc to get some tea is anything to go by, his body should be more tea than water by now

glossy latch
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I do tend to refill my cup every 1.5 episodes

mortal iron
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you think he would like zhongli

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for how often he talks about tea

versed pawn
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Now it's gaming time

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If I get him to 80-90 this week I can do imaginerium theater this week for stage 10 clear

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Finished sara today I guess

glossy latch
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I see Arlecchino has quite the sharp tongue

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... also its kinda odd to have a story quest with so little fighting

runic ether
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she is a diplomat

glossy latch
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Well so is Childe and he is ... not very good at that

long tree
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Difference is arlecchino is HIM

runic ether
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childe is younger tbf

astral drift
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is the protagonist of ghost of yotei DATA LOST

glossy latch
long tree
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Get out

mortal iron
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childe tried to commit genocide

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arle tried to stop end of evangelion

runic ether
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hes kinda goated for that

glossy latch
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Wait what did Childe try to do o.0

runic ether
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same thing he always does

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try to fight the biggest baddest thing around

glossy latch
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That does sound like him

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29 off from maxing out the fountain

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But I genuinely dont know what else Im missing

runic ether
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29 hyroculous?

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i would just craft the hydro finders

glossy latch
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I dont have the reputation for that lmao

runic ether
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build it up

glossy latch
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Also I meant Hydrosigils actually

runic ether
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o

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then treasure compass

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which... u probs need reputation for too

glossy latch
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Think so

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Ok down to 15 left

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I remembered I hadnt cleared that strange space you get from a melusine quest yet

glossy latch
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Down to 5, another area I found

glossy latch
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Aaand done

runic ether
glossy latch
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Still no Kinich tho 😔

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To be fair, itd be weird, Im only at 58 pulls deep rn

runic ether
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2 weeks too

glossy latch
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Are we getting one more event this patch or is this it?

runic ether
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1-2 more i think?

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i cant actually remember

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no i think its just 1 more

glossy latch
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Gotcha

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... also why do we fight the Guardemechs in Fontaine anyway

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Like theres not actually any enemy faction using them

versed pawn
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Malfunctioning probably

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Well some crooks do use them

runic ether
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yea and we know some ppl will hack them to use them

versed pawn
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Like in the mainstory someone buys them

versed pawn
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The card game isn't too bad I feel

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Too bad they kinda lock you from leveling to player rank 10

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By weeklys

summer hornet
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Keep playing and you’ll get it in no time

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This week’s rotation of DU buffs was enough for me to clear 5v5 difficulty

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Could probably go to 6 or 7… but I really don’t want to lol

rapid bough
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my king is here

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i also pulled lycaon on the multi before this, i was getting close to the 50/50 and thought "fuck" since lycaon ruined it, and then my next (and last since i was out of polys) was this lol

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gonna be rough getting burnice after this

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yo this is a neat addition

runic ether
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ye

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its great

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i also got caesar

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i also miscalculated the amount of exp and dennies i needed

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im short a couple of both to max her out

versed pawn
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If u max lvl arround 4.4 mil with all skill levels

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Ad 300 purple books

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Or 1500 blue books

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For wengine it's 200 purples or 1000 blue

runic ether
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yuh i miscalced it

rapid bough
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new blitz mode for withering gardens is a godsend

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hoyo just racking up Ws

slow raft
glossy latch
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Also Lighter is officially Stun, huh

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Not sure how I feel about that, I already have Koleda

glossy latch
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... in general not sure how I feel about ZZZ

glossy latch
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Ok, time to start the finale of the Fontaine Archon Quest

runic ether
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anby and qingyi play very different

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as does corin and billy

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and jane and piper

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but it is weird we are getting so many same class/attribute

glossy latch
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Mmh

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Idk, I think the game might just not be for me

runic ether
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i think it does a great job at appealing to ppl who were fans of studio trigger/gainax

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kill la kill/gurren lagaan ans panty and stocking

glossy latch
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Its well animated and the gameplay has impact, but its just not interesting enough to me, and I don't really care for the characters

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Im not sure on the story either