Gacha Chat

[summer hornet]

Still, I want the art book and I want to revisit the series again

[honest pawn]

inb4 you end up hating it

https://youtu.be/c5ioFAGyx1M?si=kNaYBkec4C43-HuM

[idle grove]

https://x.com/TamamoPrey/status/1819408137742401604

TamaPrey 🦊♥️ (@TamamoPrey) on X

and thats not everything

Twitter · Aug 2, 2024, 4:21 PM

[copper steppe]

mikon~

[copper steppe]

guess who lost the 50/50 and got a e2 welt

[versed pawn]

Not you apparently

[slow raft]

Who had cleo or asclepius on their bingo sheets?

[copper steppe]

arts boost for asclepius is wierd lol

i guess cleo deserved that buff

justice for geronimo

[torn harbor]

It's been pretty good
Has a stamina system but I can live with that

[honest pawn]

sorry I guess osakabehime

the buff for Cleo's good though, it actually lets her loop

and her S1 becomes 100% consistent so

her damage might be a bit lacking though

[astral drift]

Hope summer rate up 2 is good

[glossy latch]

Got a piece with natural crit rate + crit damage
All rolls go into the defense substat instead

😔

[long tree]

YEAH

I LOVE INTERLUDES, I LOVE GETTING 2 SQ FOR EASY AS HELL QUESTS

[slow raft]

I share your enthusiasm, but i would ask that you at the very least spoiler the picture

Some of us are sitting on the train rn

[long tree]

Summer ibuki in spoilers

[slow raft]

Happy for you tho

Whats your next target?

[honest pawn]

I'm not trying to clutch pearls but you'd think they'd save the risque art for further ascensions

[slow raft]

They did

[honest pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

[slow raft]

Btw im szill kinda mad that summer ibuki and summer bb got those alt constumes but well never get that alternative third ascension for summer kama

She unironically looks way better when she puts on some clothes

[long tree]

Today's last day of summer right? Gonna try and scrounge for summer skadi but

[slow raft]

Godspeed brother but i wouldnt get my hopes up

<-man who got summer skadi after 260 rolls

[honest pawn]

listen

I want male summer kama

[slow raft]

Sure, we can have both

[long tree]

After that I'm pretty sure I'm in the clear till next anni

[slow raft]

No rasputin? No tiamat? No draco? No kukulkan?

[honest pawn]

no BITCHES?

honestly kuku is broken as hell but I'm just not interested in her

her design's cool but eh

I do not need moar buster farmers

[long tree]

Oh shit are Draco and tiamat not the next Anni servants?... Oh god no they aren't are they it's summer Morgan/tortilla

[slow raft]

Tiamat and draco come shortly after the lostbelt release which is shortly after new years, correct

[long tree]

Well shit

I'm going for Tiamat, Draco, and hopefully summer barghest?

[summer hornet]

7.2 releases next January/February lol

[honest pawn]

I don't give a fuck about babylon hornybait, I cannot be tempted so easily by buster l00ps

[honest pawn]

I will be spending all my SQ on Draco but that's besides the point

[slow raft]

honestly the only difficulty would be adapting it to the model in battle

[summer hornet]

How do you make a jumbo emoji again

[honest pawn]

pound signs and then the emoji you wanna use I think

[summer hornet]

Gotcha

[summer hornet]

#

[honest pawn]

FOOL

[summer hornet]

GOTT IM HIMMEL

[summer hornet]

!jumbo

....I hate this game, I'm retiring

[long tree]

Out of sheer curiosity how much SQ can one acquire in 6 months

I know 9 SQ is all I need to get them all but you know

[summer hornet]

Well we have GudaGuda, Halloween, Christmas, and LB7.1 + 7.2 off the top of my head

Is Nautilus Scramble rerun this year?

[slow raft]

There is a van gogh rerun this year iirc so probably

[long tree]

Do I need to grab kukulkan if I have Arjuna alter

[honest pawn]

imo nah

[copper steppe]

i want to get tez

[sour tendon]

tez has the coolest art in the game i must have him

[idle grove]

https://x.com/jq0_wo/status/1820847540608327756

JQ (@jq0_wo) on X

Here are the sprites for Space Ereshkigal noble phantasm, your eyes has been blessed

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 3:40 PM

[summer hornet]

[glossy latch]

Won the 50/50

[runic ether]

noice

atk/dendro/crit

4pc of the new set next to whimsey

[glossy latch]

Same domain as arles yeah?

... oh does she use jade-winged polearm?

[runic ether]

she can

yep

[glossy latch]

Pog

[runic ether]

if your crit rate is good without it, an em one or attack one can be good

but jade spear works very well on her too cus high base atk

[glossy latch]

Neat

Well, Ill slowly build her up I guess

... and Dehya

[runic ether]

dehya us also rather easy

4pc tenacity

hp/hp/hp or crit

crit if you are using fav greatsword

you can do 2pc hp/hp too

or 4pc vorukasha but i would only grind vorukasha's domain if you plan on pulling childe at some point

cus nymphs dream is his best set and its such a niche domain otherwise

[glossy latch]

Time to see what pieces I rolled for that set

Err for the Emilie set

ATK sands right?

[runic ether]

ye

atk sands dendro goblet crit circlet

[glossy latch]

Oh I got a decent dendro goblet

14.8% crit damage 10.1% crit rate

Off-set though so Ill have to have on-set ATK sands

Ok so rn, with a maxed weapon

I would have 85% crit rate and 124% crit damage

+38% crit damage from ascensions

Seems decent enough for now

The ATK sands need an upgrade though

[runic ether]

oh thats not too bad at all

[glossy latch]

If I can get better sands I should be able to hit like 90/160

[runic ether]

ye

pretty easily u could likely hit the mythical 100:200

[glossy latch]

Ehhh thats gonna be a tough one

[runic ether]

you do have a crit rate weapon for her

its not actually gonna be that hard thanks to that

[rapid bough]

today i cut 2 gacha games and picked up one in their place

goodbye snowbreak and brown dust 2, hello zzz

still playing nikke and azur lane so now i'm at 3 total

i didn't expect to enjoy ZZZ as much as i am, the style of the trailers wasn't really down my alley but the combat actually slaps major ass

[old galleon]

azur lane global anni stream is in a few days, and jp anni is next month

[long tree]

Man had the full four chambers of horny

[rapid bough]

i have a type and i ain't afraid to admit it

[old galleon]

not sure what zzz is up to although it just started last month

[rapid bough]

unfortunately just horni isn't enough to keep me

[old galleon]

and yet you stuck with azur lane

[rapid bough]

i've said this before but i actually really like the gameplay/fleetbuilding aspect of azur lane

[old galleon]

it's not bad but rainbow creep dulls a lot of it imo

[rapid bough]

the min/maxing you can do with it gives me neuron activation just as much as hot shipgirls

[long tree]

That and it doesn’t require a lot of attention

[old galleon]

you eventually get to a point where it's just "throw rainbows at the problem" and it tends to work

[rapid bough]

though yeah i think the luster will dull once i have enough of a dock/gear backlog where i just steamroll all content

[runic ether]

combat generally

[rapid bough]

but until that point, which is thankfully still far away because azur lane resources still come at a crawl

[runic ether]

its devil may cry mixed with persona

[rapid bough]

i'm enjoying it

[rapid bough]

this helps too

i frequently have auto sorties on while i play nikke/ZZZ lol

[long tree]

Yeah ZZZ is for goofs and combat

[old galleon]

where you're at, i'd say just push campaign to 12 if you haven't already and keep up with monthly op si

[long tree]

It doesn’t take itself seriously rn

[old galleon]

and expand from there as able

[rapid bough]

oh i've been at 12-4 for a hot minute

and have full cleared opsi except for harbiter

[runic ether]

theres undertones of lore but its inherently taking itself lightly

[old galleon]

alrighty

[runic ether]

but overall zzz's gameplay is the biggest draw

[rapid bough]

ZZZ's story is like... baseline good enough to thread the world and characters together but it's nothing to write home about

[old galleon]

shop resets each month so be sure to keep up with that, since gear lab is where a lot of your good gear will come from

[runic ether]

it plays great and theres room for skill expression

[rapid bough]

the gameplay and combat is 100% the highlight

[long tree]

I imagine the lore will knock it down depressive at some point as is the hoyoverse way

[runic ether]

thats the hoyo special

[rapid bough]

yeah i already got my first 406mk7 (NJ gun)

[runic ether]

let u get invested in the characters then they make them suffer

[old galleon]

how are your research ships coming along?

[long tree]

I judge people on the research ships they go for first after the basically free one

[rapid bough]

i've got roon, saint louis, and anchorage fs5'd

just unlocked fdg a few days ago and putting 10 BPs into her per day

working on unlocking AVP atm

[old galleon]

generally the recommendations are like pr 4 > 5 > the rest, perhaps sidelining into some of pr2 for rainbow coins bc fdg is still a good ship

[long tree]

fdg
roon
I’ve heard enough

[rapid bough]

well

[old galleon]

nah fdg first is fine

[long tree]

https://tenor.com/view/fma-fullmetal-alchemist-armstrong-bromance-viril-gif-16049606

[rapid bough]

lol

[old galleon]

assuming you have tech

[long tree]

Culture

[rapid bough]

i hate to disappoint but it was purely in order of convenience

[old galleon]

german tech is a pain early on iirc

[rapid bough]

first saint louis since that's the one i had tech for first after unlocking shipyard

then by the time i was done her i had enough german tech for roon but no other PR2+ ship

[long tree]

Saint Louis they basically give you for free

[rapid bough]

when i finished roon i took a weird detour into PR5 for brest

who i still don't have unlocked

but i joined right before a major french UR event

[old galleon]

brest is great but i'd probably rec ply first out of pr5 between the two rainbows

[rapid bough]

so after all that i had enough tech to sit on devving her for a while

[old galleon]

but if you're set on brest, she won't damage your account for having her

[rapid bough]

until i got enough eagle tech for anchorage, who is the first big research ship most people recommend because she's got it all

1. PR4 (amazing season in general)
2. PR ship
3. coinable
4. amazing tank

then once i was done anchorage i had enough german tech for fdg and got her done so i'd have a coinable DR

[old galleon]

anchorage is a fantastic early ship, yes

you'll probably phase her out when you're more developed, tbh

but she's still fantastic

[rapid bough]

yeah at the speed research goes, she'll still be a main tank in all content for months

i can't imagine i'll get anyone better until i finish... idk, agir?

but like i said i'm on AVP right now

agir is next after her

[old galleon]

avp is also good, ye

i love her design

[rapid bough]

i want AVP to get a carrier fleet going in opsi

this month i'll have my 3 UR BB fleet up and running (alsace, NJ, vanguard)

but need AVP to get something workable for my carrier squad

ark royal's kinda stinky

[old galleon]

you don't have implac so you'd presumably go avp+2 cvs or ark retro+2 cvs if you cared about syncing slows

[rapid bough]

avp's design is indeed fantastic

[old galleon]

or i guess nakhimov, but she won't be ready for a long time

[rapid bough]

lol yeah i ain't touching PR7 yet

brest is prolly gonna remain unfinished until i get agir from PR4

[old galleon]

yeah there's nothing in pr7 i'd recommend over things in earlier seasons

[rapid bough]

once agir is done i'll start focusing PR5

[old galleon]

sounds good

[rapid bough]

on the subject of this + AVP design

tbh ironblood ships really do be having insanely good designs

[honest pawn]

though it is very simplistic in comparison to DMC

[rapid bough]

agir's design is also peak

[honest pawn]

no comments on the actual gameplay, just that it's not 1:1 DMC

[runic ether]

of course

[rapid bough]

i've never tried DMC but hearing ZZZ is simplistic compared to it makes me scared lol

since ZZZ combat has thrown me for a loop

the content isn't hard but the combat manages to make me feel stupid regularly

i just pulled zhu yuan earlier today and i've never felt like i was fucking up a character's playstyle harder

[slow raft]

eh, zhu yuan is rather simple once you get into the gist of it

very fun tho

[rapid bough]

gotten to level 30 by mostly button mashing

and timing parries/dodges

[slow raft]

thats how it goes

[rapid bough]

zhu doesn't really work well with button mashing though

you end up dashing a shitton when you don't want to

[slow raft]

just need to keep your fingers of the direction buttons

[old galleon]

iron blood really leans into the "edgy but cool" aesthetic

[rapid bough]

impossible

[old galleon]

(and then there are the subs)

[rapid bough]

ah subs

there's an aspect of azur lane i haven't touched nearly at all

my highest level sub is still 70 lol

just CBA to do anything with them

[old galleon]

they aren't mandatory for anything (aside from sub weekly i guess, but just use a tempesta to cheese that)

but they help

[rapid bough]

hopefully tempesta reruns for halloween

[old galleon]

i made extensive use of subs in world 14, helped clears quite a bit

[rapid bough]

since... yeah, i can't do the sub weeklies lol

[old galleon]

if you want to burn 1500 core data, go buy royal fortune from core data shop

(don't actualy do that)

[rapid bough]

on a serious note, the thing is that isn't it optimal to use her dashes at certain parts of her combo? it's just a matter of when to use them

and figuring that out and getting it right hurts my brain

i'll get the hang of it eventually but getting her when my previous (and only) S attacker was nekomata was a rude awakening that hey, character mechanics actually matter

[slow raft]

you can pseudo resett her attackcombo with a dash to skip the weaker parts of it yeah

[rapid bough]

an underappreciated aspect of azur lane designs (that gets lost in all the fanservice) is the insane background detail of character riggings and whatnot

[slow raft]

but you spend like a few minutes in the training room to ghe that down and then youll never have to worry about it

[rapid bough]

AVP sitting on a throne with a fuckin mecha dragon behind her is so metal

[rapid bough]

bold of you to assume i'm smart enough to get that in a few minutes

i just wanna unga bunga left click

and i'm not afraid to admit that, while ZZZ's fanservice isn't anywhere near the tier of nikke/azur lane, the ass man in me couldn't ignore recent highlights of jane doe and zhu yuan

ZZZ is made by a bunch of ass men fr fr

nicole is also peak design

[slow raft]

and feet men going by some of the grace cutscenes

[rapid bough]

so i got in for some hot (but tastefully so) gals and expected button mash

and got a much more engaging and complex combat system than i expected

which is good but will take some getting used to

[runic ether]

fuck

it was this close to perfection

[rapid bough]

still having lots of fun with it though. i didn't expect to get into a hoyo game in my lifetime (largely because, again, i'm a degenerate and hoyo games are too sterile from what i know) but now i'm in deep

gotta say though, going from nikke's 4% SSR and azur lane's... uh... 7% i think? to hoyo's 0.6% (or 1.6% counting pity) is gonna be a rude awakening

[slow raft]

yeah its uhh

its tough

[mortal iron]

what is the best gacha rates you peeps had for a gacha

coz unironically genshin out of my gacha career is the best for the gachas i've played

[slow raft]

you poor poor man

[rapid bough]

azur lane is kind of a cheat code for a good gacha experience because of how generous its rates are

[slow raft]

azur lane without question for me

[mortal iron]

i played dokkan for like 7 years, shit had like 0.01%

and no hard pity

they raised it eventually still no pity

closest is coins but you need to get a certain amount and hope they rerun

[rapid bough]

brown dust 2 also has very generous gacha (3%) + gives so many free pulls it's not even funny

[mortal iron]

coz some characters never or take years for reruns

[rapid bough]

unfortunately its dupe system is annoying to interact with so you end up needing all those free pulls

which balances out the generous rates + number of pulls

[mortal iron]

oh speaking of dupe system, genshin has the best dupe system that i've played

[summer hornet]

When you say best dupe system

[rapid bough]

in general i hate dupe systems so it's no coincidence i love nikke where dupes basically don't matter outside of one specific level gate relatively early in the game

[mortal iron]

dupes usually fluxuates from what i played to just stat increase that keeps the same overall play or complete overhaul of the kit

[summer hornet]

Do you mean “you get the most bang for extra dupe bucks” or “dupes don’t matter so you can one and done with no worries”

[rapid bough]

azur lane avoids the dupe problem entirely with bulins

[mortal iron]

my gacha standards are so low that genshin is peak to me

[rapid bough]

i can tell i'm gonna hate the ZZZ dupe system

brown dust 2's dupe system was annoying

[mortal iron]

bang for the buck i guess but also balancing it to where it doesnt matter

[rapid bough]

snowbreak's dupe system was pretty decent, in the sense of having little impact

[mortal iron]

coz there's only like maybe 5 good characters in the game that need dupes

that i can think off

like most characters works well at c0

[summer hornet]

Dokkan and Hoyo are probably the worst in terms of dupes, then

[rapid bough]

basically if the system requires i get dupes of a character to feel like i'm not losing out on half their power, i hate it

[summer hornet]

Since both of them lock entire character skill sets behind dupes

[mortal iron]

yeah dokkan is the worst for me coz it kinda does but doesnt matter

[rapid bough]

i feel like ZZZ is going that way

[mortal iron]

it's like this weird inbetween

[rapid bough]

some of the mindscape cinema boosts for character dupes seem nutty to me

nearly makes me want to get a zhu yuan dupe so i can get her M1 power up

[runic ether]

dupes dont really matter in hoyo games for clearing content

[rapid bough]

since it reads like it's amazing

[glossy latch]

Yeah but its "only" 22% crit chance

[summer hornet]

Granblue is kinda 50/50 because character dupes don’t mean a thing… but the weapon grid wants dupes like crazy if you’re building a gacha weapon grid

[runic ether]

they are largely bait

[old galleon]

azur lane has 7% ssr rate with 2% rateups (.5% for ships you can get for free), 1.2% ur rate, and pull currency is extremely easy to hoard

game makes its money on skins

[runic ether]

i think the only egregious case for hoyo was faruzan in genshin

[mortal iron]

the worst kind of dupes is where it's QoL in a way where characters feels gimped without it

[runic ether]

which is a solid character pre-c6 but c6 makes her so insanely strong the difference is night and day

[slow raft]

best dupe system and most generous gacha for me is still limbus because i dont have to pull since i can get every unit with farmable currency and there is no dupe system

[mortal iron]

like c0 wrio feels off, c1 feels like it shouldve been c0

[rapid bough]

and damn are its skins good

azur lane easily has the best cosmetics in the biz

i only wish you could see them in-game more often

[mortal iron]

i hate that kind of Cons

[runic ether]

or at least a bit of it

[rapid bough]

the in-game chibi style lets the otherwise amazing skin selection down

[summer hornet]

FGO is a split, better than Granblue but there’s a couple specific yet not quite niche situations where characters live and die by being higher than NP1

[mortal iron]

i think the best con is like benny c6 unironically

it mostly doesnt matter for most teams

but also can unlock playstyles

[runic ether]

benny c6 can create teams where benny is the carry

yea

90% of cons in hoyo games are like this

[mortal iron]

kills eula's team

but like eula doesnt exist

[runic ether]

they only really create new playstyles

at least for genshin and zzz

[summer hornet]

Arcueid requiring NP2+ in order to become the ultimate game breaking Omni-farmer

[runic ether]

zzz's case is particular here where it basically turns all characters into a dps

[old galleon]

even peak f2p grids tend to use gacha weapons now, remember

[summer hornet]

Oh right, blargh

[old galleon]

m3 bridges the gap a bit since exaltos are great

[rapid bough]

more damage is more better

[old galleon]

but pact weapons are still incredible

[summer hornet]

Was it pain and suffering that started that trend?

[old galleon]

yes

pns was the first pact weapon

[rapid bough]

that's anothing thing i don't like seeing in gacha

[summer hornet]

Lmfaooooooooooooooooooo

[rapid bough]

weapon banners 🤮

[summer hornet]

That is darkly ironic

[summer hornet]

!EXACTAMENTE!!

[old galleon]

tbf gbf isn't a "weapon banner" in the sense you're probably thinking of

[rapid bough]

nikke and azur lane are based for only having character banners

[slow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-gif-7410050725709839510

[old galleon]

gacha characters are tied to weapons in that game

[mortal iron]

weapon banner in genshin is such a scam, have i summoned many many times on it...yeah

because i like aesthetics

[summer hornet]

GBF has weapons tied to characters; the first time you get a weapon you get the character (and all their abilities)

[mortal iron]

still sad i didnt get arlecchino's scythe

[rapid bough]

ZZZ has a weapon banner that, at least for right now, i will probably never feel motivated to touch because the free W-engine options are still perfectly acceptable

[summer hornet]

But because GBF has weapon grids, sometimes you want extra copies of characters’ weapons in order to make your grid stronger

[runic ether]

more damage so u can clear withering gardens in 10 seconds faster

[runic ether]

its totally unnecessary yeah

[slow raft]

speaking off tho, im thinking of investing a few more pulls into zhu yuan and since i liekly wont have enough pulls for 160 i might just roll for the w engine

[runic ether]

it is entirely for aesthetics to roll on it

[runic ether]

dont

just grind s5 starlight engine

its not too far off the numbers of her engine

[rapid bough]

this seems mildly less offensive to my sensibilities

[slow raft]

and invest my pulls into what?

[runic ether]

future characters ig?

[rapid bough]

of the 5 gacha i've tried now, 3 have had weapon banners and i've now dropped two of those lol

coincidence? i think not

[slow raft]

whats the 3rd next character?

[runic ether]

qingyi is looking to be a solid stunner.

[rapid bough]

ZZZ DOA

[runic ether]

qingyi and then jane doe

jane is the rat lady

[slow raft]

yeah whats after that since both of them are zzz

[runic ether]

anomaly

uhh

[summer hornet]

Arknights probably takes the cake in terms of gachas I’ve played (and remembered) in terms of how nice they are about dupes

[runic ether]

we dont know yet

we'll know soon

[slow raft]

weapon banner it is

[runic ether]

once qingyi drops we'll know since 1.2 beta will come up

[summer hornet]

I don’t remember enough of Azur Lane or Touken Ranbu to make a statement about them

[old galleon]

Bagpipe e5 lmao

[mortal iron]

i wish genshin did more skins, and decrease those prices on them like fuck me theyre overpriced as fuck

[rapid bough]

why the 160 threshold btw, is that just when you hit guaranteed pity from the 50/50

[runic ether]

thats fully guaranteed

yep

even if you lose the 50/50

[summer hornet]

Oh true; I was only thinking of Radiant Knight lmfao

[rapid bough]

i thankfully pulled my first copy in i think 60 pulls and i'ma just leave it there

[slow raft]

the average i need to get a 5 star in hoyo games is 148 pulls

[rapid bough]

though i am tempted to pull a dupe for her M1 i will resist

[slow raft]

i just assume that im gonna need 160 everytime

[rapid bough]

that's prolly a fair assumption

keeps you from being disappointed too

[mortal iron]

i think the other gachas i used to play shutdown, like dragalia lost and naruto storm something i dunno

[runic ether]

you really dont need her m1

[rapid bough]

either you hit guaranteed pity or you're pleasantly surprised

[summer hornet]

Bleach Brave Souls is Dokkan tier in terms of locking extra power behind dupes… but it’s also nicer about giving your SSRs

[old galleon]

Rip dragalia

[runic ether]

zzz is like genshin where a new character will be way better than dupes

unless you're guy and get like m6 grace every other pull

[mortal iron]

i did play feh for like a year but uber casual on it in high school so i dont remember how rates were

[summer hornet]

They have rotating banners of 3-6 SSRs, and guarantee you one of the rateup characters every 5/10/15/25 rolls

[runic ether]

im coming for your grace guy

[summer hornet]

It’s so nice

[slow raft]

misty those graces were from pity

[runic ether]

i got her w-engine from standard

[slow raft]

i wish even just once i got more than one ssr in a tenpull in hoyo games

just to know what it feels like

[runic ether]

its pretty good

it can be bittersweet thought

like the time i went to 180 to get yelan

in genshin

[rapid bough]

how many multis have you done across all the hoyo games you've tried and still not had a double pull

[mortal iron]

i wish genshin puts a "are you sure you wanna spend fates" screen, like so annoying

[slow raft]

i dont want to talk about it

[rapid bough]

ouch

that 0.6% rate do be brutal ig

[mortal iron]

that's a rough one

[rapid bough]

feels like i get double SSRs every other day in nikke/azur lane

[summer hornet]

Hero Academia Ultra Impact was another in that Dokkan tier; they have like 3 different skill trees for each character and to complete the skill trees you need either dupes or hours upon hours of grinding for the equivalent in event shops

[slow raft]

even fgo treats me to the occaisonal double ssr

[mortal iron]

wild to think people thought yelan would be bad because she's XQ 2

turns out XQ 2 is a good thing

who knew

[summer hornet]

The difference is that MHA was meaner about its SSR rates compared to BBS

So it felt worse

[runic ether]

furina is xq 3

one day, we'll have a 4th xq

and it'll be over

we can run quadruple hydro off-field

[mortal iron]

xq is the best 4*, i would say better than benny just coz XQ can be in dendro teams

[rapid bough]

you seem like a very well traveled gacha player lol, you've named like 10 different gacha systems you've played with so far

[mortal iron]

pyro sucks ass in dendro they dont do anything with that

[runic ether]

pyro is good again in dendro

[mortal iron]

oh

[runic ether]

emilie

and then kinich

burning and burnmelt/burnvape and burgeon are getting buffed

[mortal iron]

oh she's out now, i didnt look at her kit

[summer hornet]

I’ve done my time and then some rofl

[runic ether]

her kit's really damng ood

hard to raw recommend with natlan coming

[summer hornet]

Argor’s got me beat in terms of obscure gachas though

[mortal iron]

aah

[runic ether]

but on the otherhand

[summer hornet]

Jot too

[runic ether]

natlan can be somewhat uninteresting

[mortal iron]

im skipping emille coz i dont really care for her as a character

design doesnt strike me

[old galleon]

Depends on what you define as obscure

[runic ether]

atm the only character im interesting in natlan will be xilonen who atm is basically geo kazuha

so having a 3rd kazuha is going to be good

[mortal iron]

i want the shark girl

[runic ether]

and my navia and noelle can use the buff

[mortal iron]

do we know who's the gps item locator 5*

[runic ether]

she's a forward vape character

we have not had a forward vaper yet

so she's going to be nuts

the thing about mualani is that we dont actually have the right pyro for her yet

[mortal iron]

like every X.0 has the gps item locator guy
3.0 was tighnari, 4.0 was lyney

[runic ether]

xiangling is weird on her

[runic ether]

neither

its gonna be baked into the natlan system

[summer hornet]

There’s at least 3 gachas you’ve played with traditional JRPG (Final Fantasy/Bravely Default/Granblue Fantasy) style visuals that I can’t remember the names of

[mortal iron]

oh thank god

i hated finding items in like sumeru, especially those beetles

we got sethos recently but that was like way after i finished those

[runic ether]

sethos yea

[old galleon]

You're probably thinking of another eden, although that's not that obscure

[mortal iron]

fontaine has less harder to find shit, still prefer to have a gps guy

[old galleon]

Even if no one else here plays it lol

[mortal iron]

they gave lynette free in 4.0 so i skipped lyney all together, why go for the inferior siblings

[summer hornet]

Fair lol

[old galleon]

Sword of convallaria is new

[runic ether]

lyney is cute tho

but

he's had it somewhat rough

genshin 5 stars are always so fucking weird

[mortal iron]

freminet had it worse

[old galleon]

And I'm not sure what other games you're referring to

I've played a bunch

[runic ether]

pyro characters are just so inherently cooked because of xiangling and bennett

only arlecchino has broken the cycle

[mortal iron]

i like arlecchino, she's the first pyro main dps i felt like, "wow this makes pyro feels really good"

coz xiangling is just rings of fire swap

or benny just bouken da bouken swap out

[runic ether]

no cd on her icd though

[mortal iron]

i had c0 hu tao...felt real bad

[runic ether]

so pyronado is still one of if not the highest source of damage in the entire game

[mortal iron]

yeaaah

[runic ether]

the bar isn't necessarily high. rather, xiangling herself is the bar

[mortal iron]

i play teams that doesnt use xiangling, really dont find any of her comps fun

[runic ether]

i like childe vape comps

and i think mualani will use her

[summer hornet]

Sword of convallaria and Another Eden were the main two on my mind

[runic ether]

at least until pyro archon

[mortal iron]

i think neuv broke hydros for me coz i dont wanna play any hydro dps unless it's neuv

he's just so free with his damage

[slow raft]

azur lane, arknights, final fantasy exvius, alchemy stars, fgo, genshin, star rail, zzz, limbus, world flipper, reverse 1999, fire emblem heroes, gbf, blue archive and one more who i forogr the name of
is the extend of gachas ive played

[mortal iron]

for me i have like a bar for an element
hydro - neuv
pyro - xiangling/arlecchino
dendro - nahida

i used to say electro with raiden but they have made alot of comps use other electros where i cant say she's the bar for electro for me

[runic ether]

its always been fischl

[mortal iron]

anemo - kazuha

[runic ether]

its sucrose

[mortal iron]

geo - no one, i guess like itto if you go mono but like eww

[runic ether]

kazuha for comfort

[runic ether]

navia for general

noelle if you have furina

[rapid bough]

got DAM that is quite the list

[runic ether]

xilonen in a little bit

[rapid bough]

i've played nikke, azur lane, brown dust 2, snowbreak, and now ZZZ, in that order (just started ZZZ over the weekend)

[mortal iron]

geo i feel like has like 3 distinctive things where i cant like place the bar

[rapid bough]

just dropped snowbreak and BD2, gave em a good try but

[mortal iron]

coz like pure geo context navia isnt it, but like outside of that then it's navia

[rapid bough]

snowbreak's gameplay just didn't do much for me

[mortal iron]

and in more mono geo teams it's noelle if there's furina

[old galleon]

Azur lane
Arknights
Fate grand order
Granblue fantasy
Another eden
Genshin impact
Honkai star rail
Sword of convallaria
Fire emblem heroes
Dragalia lost
Blue archive
Brave nine
Danmemo
Magia record
Epic seven

And that's probably not even all of them, that I've played at least some over the years

[runic ether]

i've only played fire emblem heroes, genshin, star rail, and zzz as gacha games

[mortal iron]

i played a bunch in highschool like half of them closed down and i dont remember most of them

[rapid bough]

i wanted to stick with BD2, it has decent gameplay and ofc top notch fanservice for degenerates like me

but something about it just missed the mark, i realized the other day that i was logging on due to some misguided sense of "gotta do my dailies" obligation rather than actually engaging with the game

its story was even serviceable, though it was also completely disconnected from basically every other part of the game

BD2's whole world is just a disconnected mess of multiverses, maybe that's what i couldn't get into

[old galleon]

Then I probably wouldn't recommend getting into fgo

[rapid bough]

how many of these do you play right now? presumably not all at once lmao

[old galleon]

Def not lol

[rapid bough]

same question to guy since his list was nearly as long

[rapid bough]

if it weren't for azur lane's mechanical depth (pre-rainbow creep) it'd probably have gone the same way for me

i've tried to get into its story but it is a timey wimey "alt dimension" mess of shit

[old galleon]

The ones I'm actively on right now are fgo/al/ae/soc, logging into gbf for summer stuff

Arknights and star rail on hiatus

The rest are either effectively dropped or eos

Oh right octopath gacha on the list as well, but also hiatus

[old galleon]

Don't worry too much about al lore, it's a colossal mess

[rapid bough]

thing is that nikke has taught me that sure, fanservice is great, but fanservice that's grounded in a world with characters you can enjoy is even better

[slow raft]

i play limbus actively and then i cycle whatever secondary i want to play at the time between arknights, fgo, hsr and zzz
and basically only dump energy in the other ones

[rapid bough]

so i tried to give AL lore a shot to see if being able to follow along with events/story would let me enjoy it more, pick out a best shipgirl or two based on more than just their design

but holy hell it is truly a biblical clusterfuck

nikke's story and events do a good job of making me care about characters which in turn elevates the fanservice

AL does... not

[old galleon]

Nj best but I know that makes me sound like the mark

[rapid bough]

LMAO

i'm right there with you anyway, NJ was the first shipgirl i saw and said "i must have you"

gonna be a shame when i get enough rainbow ships that she gets phased out due to newer URs powercreeping her

[old galleon]

I'm coping for an augment, knowing she doesn't actually need it

[rapid bough]

but until then she's proudly wifed and part of my 3 BB fleet in opsi

[rapid bough]

man the day UR ships start getting augments is when we know we've really fallen into powercreep hell

granted if any UR ship would get one it is probably NJ because she's a fan favorite

[old galleon]

You know who is a rainbow and does need it?

Warspite

[rapid bough]

true

though that has the asterisk of being a rainbow only through retrofitting

[old galleon]

Still counts

[rapid bough]

granted sandy also just got an aug

and she's the same way

and her aug was really good

[old galleon]

She didn't need it lol

But yeah

[rapid bough]

manjuu just releases augments for whoever the hell they want

[summer hornet]

Brave Frontier, Puzzles and Dragons, Chain Chronicle, Summoner's War, Fate Grand Order, Arknights, Dokkan Battle, Touken Ranbu, Azur Lane, Granblue Fantasy, Gundam Breaker Mobile, MHA Ultra Impact, Bleach Brave Souls, Honkai: Star Rail, Genshin Impact, and 1 other

…I owe you an apology, I was unfamiliar with your game

[old galleon]

Nj aug is serious cope but I'm biased

[rapid bough]

i too am biased so i will dream alongside you

justice for honey

[copper steppe]

oh you guys doing a list for how many gacha played

let me check mine

[long tree]

A gacha played list?

Shit idk if I can even remember all mine

[astral drift]

fgo, fgo, azur lane, kancolle, destiny child, gfl, pmex, and nikke from looking at google play

[summer hornet]

I did try FGO JP when it launched, actually

But I couldn't summon past Romulus before my phone crashed lol (it was an ancient Motorola)

[old galleon]

All I've heard of it indicates launch fgo jp was literally unplayable

[long tree]

Dokkan, legends, Genshin, hsr, zzz, honkai 3rd, uma masume, priconne, the konosuba one, brave frontiers, bleach brave souls, gbf, bang girl’s rhythm one, hatsune miku one, arknights, sword of whatever one that just came out, afk arena, afk journey, both mha ones, Naruto blazing, one piece treasure cruise, dragalia lost, fire emblem heroes, destiny child, azur lane, snow break, nikke, grand summoners, blue archive, epic seven, outerplane, another Eden, guardian tales, girls frontlines, exos heroes, Pokémon masters, ffbe, ffbe wotv, that other cool ff game that shut down, kings raid, grand chase, dx2, brave nine, brown dust 2, cookie run, cookie run kingdom, langrisser, crash fever, the nier one, Valkyrie connect, alchemist code, sdorica

[summer hornet]

WTF

[long tree]

That’s likely not all of em

[summer hornet]

Jot holy schist

I knew you had more than me but are you okay

[long tree]

Listen filling the void after dragalia was bled to death in a shed to rot was hard

After thinking on it this is like

Half maybe

More like 60-70%, but it does include games I merely stepped my toes into

[idle grove]

wtf

[long tree]

Do not come for the king, if I say your gacha is shit I mean it because I have played it

(I have a lot of free time)

[idle grove]

yeah but when you play that much have you actually played them

[rapid bough]

sweet baby jesus

ok next question, how many of these are you actively playing

[long tree]

To be fair a lot of them is just initial rolls and then seeing how long that it keeps me interested?

Err right now?

[copper steppe]

summoner wars, puzzle & dragons, monster strike, ff record keepers, pokemon masters, unison league, yokai watch wibble wobble, game of dice, feh heroes, octopath traveer cotc, battle cats, ff brave exvius, arknights, Fgo, kingdom hearts cross , ff wotv, hsr, dx2, brave frontier, langrisser, mario kart i forgot the name, pokemon duel, sao if, tales of crestoria,tales of rays, digimon re arise, crash fever, alchemist code, dragalia lost, omnyouji, grand summoners, dan machi memoria freese, priconne

[digital marlin]

oh my god

[glossy latch]

I swear Jot

[digital marlin]

OH LORD

[sour tendon]

ive only played fire emblem heroes, granblue, and fgo

[glossy latch]

Even your gambling addiction has a gambling addiction

[sour tendon]

i couldnt imagine that many gachas

holy shit

[old galleon]

Danmemo mentioned

[long tree]

Zzz, hsr, fate, Genshin when I can be bothered, arknights seasonally, battle cats which I did not put on the list

[digital marlin]

Argor your up next

[copper steppe]

oh and megaman x dive

[long tree]

I’ve played all of these but game of dice and yokai watch I think

[old galleon]

I posted an abridged list earlier

[sour tendon]

oh wait i installed brave exvius

and it sucked instantly so i uninstalled it

[long tree]

That was the correct move loot

[slow raft]

oh right, tales pf crestoria i also played

[long tree]

It does not get better

[digital marlin]

oh that small list

[summer hornet]

I updated my list with Chain Chronicle and Summoner's War after y'all jogged my memory, but both of those were brief

[rapid bough]

LMAO

[digital marlin]

you need to give the full list

[rapid bough]

this pathetic list

those are baby numbers argor

[summer hornet]

Your perspective has been influenced by abnormal outliers, Vale

[copper steppe]

cmon we’re all addicted to copium

[digital marlin]

I'm familiar with Argors game

[idle grove]

gachas I play rn are

hsr fgo

gfl2 when it comes out

[long tree]

I looked up the gacha list on wikipedia

There’s like 5 i haven’t played

[rapid bough]

i may try GFL2 when it goes global

[glossy latch]

Star Rail and Genshin

Literally it

[rapid bough]

never played the first one though

[digital marlin]

anyway

[rapid bough]

so you're hoyopilled eh

gonna try ZZZ?

[slow raft]

ovven tried it already iirc

[glossy latch]

Nope

I might

But not yet

[runic ether]

has he? i think i was still trying to convince him to

[digital marlin]

FEH GBF FGO Azur lane Epic Seven Genshin HSR.
thats it

[slow raft]

or was that wurthering waves?

[old galleon]

It won't be as large as the other two, and it'll have to wait until tonight but sure

[slow raft]

might be confusing stuff here

[rapid bough]

speaking as someone who hadn't played any hoyo games before ZZZ, i quite like it

[digital marlin]

oh Dragalia lost

[long tree]

Also when I say that dragalia lost was unmatched in the field of gachas know that I truly believe it and only now since hoyoverse has entered the field and lost belt 6 came out I consider them contenders

[slow raft]

its a decent gaem with the usualy hoyo game flaws

[digital marlin]

Dragalia was special

[long tree]

I put nothing else in the same tier

[slow raft]

but zhu yuan gameplay is fun so im alright for now

[rapid bough]

started for the ass, stayed for the combat

[summer hornet]

It took Lostbelt 6?

[rapid bough]

hopefully the plot picks up sometime too

[copper steppe]

a moment of silence for dragalia

[rapid bough]

it's not bad, just aggressively average

[digital marlin]

we will never have Dragalia Lost 2

[slow raft]

literally all thats keeping me in this game :icant:

[long tree]

Bro I teamed up with a team of cool priests to fight satan

[runic ether]

it already has the makings of a good story in the background. hoyo has done both genshin and star rail's story extremely well

so im trusting that the story will pick up

[rapid bough]

i'm not caught up (just finished ch2 intermission only) but there are glimpses of good stuff so far

plenty to build on anyway

[runic ether]

honestly based

[rapid bough]

nicole got me started on the game and zhu yuan may keep me in it

[long tree]

I fought a team of we live in a society, dragons that formed the bounds of existence, went through time to uncover pasts destroyed, met god herself and she’s a single homosexual mother of a himbo

[rapid bough]

once i figure out how the fuck to play her

[slow raft]

oh, has star rails story actually become good now with the new patch?
i havent played it yet

[long tree]

Dragalia was different

[slow raft]

youre in luck khaios

[runic ether]

honestly

its pretty good

[slow raft]

you play zhu yuan with nicole

[rapid bough]

i know

[summer hornet]

Like LB6 is insanely good, but we already had:

[runic ether]

i was surprised with the new xianzhou story

[idle grove]

definitely takes cues from gbf I see

[slow raft]

hjopefully its better than penacony 🙏

[runic ether]

it has the potential to be a lot better

imo

penacony had the issue where it had to end by 2.3

but this new story line can potentially go farther

also p much everyone we've introduced so far has been enjoyable to interact with

[long tree]

But instead of hitting refresh and waiting on load times to do those things I actually fought them

[runic ether]

besides yunli

but thats just a case where someone has to be a bit of a foil

[summer hornet]

Bedivere returning the sword of promised victory to its rightful place, a fight to stop the mother of all things from returning the world to primordial soup, an endgame portals moment against the entire Ars Goetia, a clash between infinity and nothingness in a burning castle, an arrow forged from two souls striking down a god

Off the top of my head

[copper steppe]

i dont think it will surpass penacony in terms of writing if im honest, but its just the start so who knows

[old galleon]

Musashi and her big hero moment in olympus

[copper steppe]

i won’t jump into conclusions yet

[long tree]

I’m not saying they weren’t good story moments

But the feeling of beating a significant foe was different in dragalia

[copper steppe]

but im really interested what will they cook with the xianzhou story

[rapid bough]

god it just occurred to me that i've gone fdg -> avp -> agir in AL shipyard research, these ironblood ships are never gonna leave my damn fleet at this rate

[summer hornet]

Fair enough

[rapid bough]

seydlitz and alvitr just been vibing in my main mob fleet grinding in 12-4 for like a month now

[digital marlin]

i dont think its going to be anything too significant tbh.

[old galleon]

They'll be relevant for a while

[sour tendon]

lb6 is unreasonably good

[summer hornet]

I never got to Dragalia Lost, so I am literally lacking critical information

[runic ether]

i think its the opposite

[digital marlin]

i didnt get a chance to get far with Dragalia so cant know the feelings

[runic ether]

i think this has some pretty huge implications on the hsr story going forward

[digital marlin]

nor compare

[rapid bough]

yeah but i wanna level some other main fleet ships lol, but that research order will need 7.8 million ironblood main fleet XP

all ironblood all the time

[long tree]

To explain it I’d compare dragalias big bosses closer to ff14 raid bosses but faster

[rapid bough]

worth it though, i said i'd finish brest after agir but if i manage to get enough sakura tech for haku then i've gotta go with her first

[old galleon]

It gets better

[long tree]

With some of the hardest bangers I’ve ever heard playing in the background

[copper steppe]

i also never got to the finish, did they find dragalia

[sour tendon]

the "lets beat up the big bad" part of lb6 is also not really the selling point of the story

[long tree]

I’m aware

I’m saying the quality of lost belt 6s writing put it near where I felt playing dragalia lost

[sour tendon]

interesting

i never played DL but thats a glowing review

[long tree]

The dragalia was dragon and humans living together peacefully so yes

[old galleon]

Have any of the fgo players here not named roast not beaten lb6 yet?

[digital marlin]

Roast needs to speed up

[long tree]

Euden literally forced himself into existence in a void where all universes were dying, remaking the final one how it was before but literally undoing most if not all of the bad shit

So it got the best? Ending

[idle grove]

I think you just like the game more

[long tree]

That’s completely fair assessment

[idle grove]

you don't need to justify it by saying one is better than the other you can just prefer one

[sour tendon]

i need to finish traum

i think i just stopped give shits after the first seige arc

[long tree]

I am saying this all from my subjective point of view

If you didn’t like dragalia or thought it was bad that’s fine too

[idle grove]

I just never played it

[long tree]

Also fair

[idle grove]

it sounds like it took a lot from gbf from what I've heard though

[long tree]

They did not advertise the game well

[copper steppe]

well they did make gbf

[idle grove]

oh no I knew about it

[long tree]

It was a fair amount like it

[summer hornet]

I started it ASAP because I wanted to see Kadoc but now I'm holding off finishing because I don't want to wait for LB7 lol

[idle grove]

I just didn't play it

[long tree]

That’s also fair

At least we still have a remaining remnant of dragalia left

[sour tendon]

as an aztec descendant myself i cant wait for lb7

[long tree]

Shine on pipple

[sour tendon]

im gonna roll everything for tez frame one

ive not read the story at all but people are even saying its better than lb6

[copper steppe]

same im excited to see what see what our mushroom man cooked

[sour tendon]

i wondered how in the world they would top fae britain given its Fate and Arthurian lore is like their bread and butter but then theyre like ok now lets do it in mexico

[slow raft]

i should also finish traum at some point

[old galleon]

||hey let's drop a big ass spider on them||

||in between dino and brazil shitposts||

[slow raft]

||luckily i have np2 bazett||
||and also summer skadi now, who i imagine benefits her||

[summer hornet]

I really wanna get NP2 Bazett

Just gotta wait till next Valentine's

Also, it seems like Space Ereshkigal really likes having Proto Merlin

So I'm considering doing a few extra rolls for Lady Avalon- I can afford it, I have almost 1200 SQ, but I'm still scared for next summer

[sour tendon]

lady is super good

[long tree]

So err

I decided not to pull for skadi because I rarely like quick servants and the ones I do like I'm not looping with, so it's not a huge deal

So I went for lady Avalon instead

BIG WAMMYS

[slow raft]

huge dubs

[long tree]

Summer summon totals:
Summer ibuki: 30 (obtained)
Lady Avalon: 22 (obtained)
Summer skadi: 0 (big guess here if I got her huh)

My pull streak has been good for quite a while so I'm just gonna... Stop for a bit

[honest pawn]

NO

KEEP GAMBLING

[idle grove]

summer skadi isn't just for quick...

[copper steppe]

LETS GO GAMBLING

[long tree]

I know she does buster too but I got koyan and Oberon for that

[copper steppe]

i don’t know if i double down on sskadi or i wait for muramasa

[slow raft]

man, we need an uncapped lotto soon, im runnign out of gems

[copper steppe]

same running out of some gems too

[slow raft]

<-just got the most amount of new servants in one month since he started the game

[honest pawn]

:(

I beg of everyone to give me luck when I try pulling for Draco next year

[slow raft]

sure, you can have my luck as soon as i get my own copy

[honest pawn]

I see

[sour tendon]

i got 7 ssrs in 2400 sq

not terrible

[rigid pilot]

I'm also starved from Lady Avalon and S. Sladi

[long tree]

I think rn I'm at 7 SSRs in 3-400 sq

[rigid pilot]

That's where I was during LB6 release. I got Mélusine, Koyanskaya, and Oberon within 200 or so SQ

[long tree]

Konstantinos, Charlemagne, two arcs, s ibuki and lady avalon

[slow raft]

1.2k sq for 3 ssr
(And two jeannes)

That double ruler spook during my journey for s skadi has permanently scarred me

[rigid pilot]

Oof

I'm considering pulling for Jeanne actively so I can rip the bandaid. NP5.

That way whenever she inevitably shows up again I just start collecting USO

[long tree]

I've decided who I want for fgos 10th anniversary, the main character in servant form

[mortal iron]

My best team I think

[long tree]

If you have int 17 and friends and phy 17 and frieza id replace brolly and gogeta

Other than that no notes

[mortal iron]

Int 17 yes but eza isn't live

I don't have 17 and frieza

[long tree]

Ahhh right

When it is drop broly

His domain clashes with UIs

[mortal iron]

I just run broly coz he's a tank

[long tree]

Ye he's not bad just not optimal when the eza drops, for now this is probably best team in the game

[mortal iron]

Who do i sub in when dodge is nullified

[long tree]

Usually dodge nullification only comes into effect at a time where you can activate uis domain to negate the dodge null, but generally just fill the slot with anyone you feel can tank a few normals and float them

[mortal iron]

Got it

I'll drop gogeta for 17 when he's live

Coz broly tanks way better than gogeta

[sour tendon]

yuh its nice to have luck

i just hope for mathematical average

[long tree]

I yolo it

[sour tendon]

which im slightly over still but not that much

[honest pawn]

I

didn't get Skadi

but, uh

I was skipping rolls because I knew I wasn't getting her and he just

waltzes in

[sour tendon]

skip roll is a sin

ive been punished every time

ofc i also have terrible gacha luck even if i dont skip

[slow raft]

Iskander and nitocris assasin

[copper steppe]

iskandar buff goes hard as fuck

i doubled down on sskadi

i failed

[slow raft]

https://x.com/WhooieW/status/1820772922379886734

Whooie21 (@WhooieW) on X

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 10:44 AM

[summer hornet]

Seven+ years of waiting for this man to get a battery

But he finally won

[sour tendon]

im enjoying this war on servants without batteries

[slow raft]

https://x.com/ardia2001/status/1821178768129446106

Ardia (#1 Anna Yanami Fan) (@ardia2001) on X

Weedy im watching your stream why you trying not to laugh bruh

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 1:37 PM

[summer hornet]

That's all it takes

also, FSN is officially available on Steam now

oh lmao Roast beat me to it in #video_games

[slow raft]

https://x.com/Tubularparu/status/1820822194739638771

P░a░r░u░ 🏝️🪬☀️COMMS FULL (@Tubularparu) on X

🤨🏳️‍🌈? #zzzero #JaneDoe #zhuyuan

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 2:00 PM

[runic ether]

🏳️‍🌈 ❓

[rapid bough]

lmao you've gotta be shitting me

[old galleon]

was this a one shot attempt?

[rapid bough]

nah, my fleets ain't good enough to one shot level 15 metas yet

i do about 600k which is like... 40% or something?

this was the result of me doing 600k and then various people supporting and leaving it at 82 so i had to spend 40 oil lol

[old galleon]

quality

anyway for all i said about doing op si i haven't even attempted wichita meta yet

i really don't like enmity mechanics in azur lane

so i don't really feel much of a desire to push for her

[rapid bough]

i really like her design so that's neat, but yeah i don't intend on using her, she seems very janky in the context of azur lane mechanics

i'm doing her mostly for the rewards you get as you complete sync progress

lots of skill books, cog chips, gear boxes, etc

[old galleon]

yes, you should absolutely be doing her for those

don't follow my example, you want everything you can get

i have that luxury bc i've been playing longer

[old galleon]

what do your fleets look like now anyway?

[rapid bough]

happened again 😭 (with a less ridiculous number but it still hurts)

this is my meta showdown fleet atm, and is also my 3 BB fleet for opsi

my other fleets are still random smattering of just "good ships" i have leveled. i have the makings of an opsi CV fleet with sara/enty/ark royal + roon/kazagumo/emden but ark royal is still underleveled and i haven't worked out syncing her slow with enty/sara

[old galleon]

bought alsace's skin
degen confirmed

[rapid bough]

100% worth it

not only does it suit my degenerate needs, i also just like the design of it way more

[old galleon]

is that nelson flag?

[rapid bough]

alsace's base skin having the mask covering her face looks silly to me

[rapid bough]

yeah

[old galleon]

hope you have her pennant aux then

[rapid bough]

i do

though she'll be replaced sometime this month anyway

once i MLB vanguard

[old galleon]

vg would be better here ,yes

[rapid bough]

nelson is just my best flag BB at the moment

[old galleon]

this is also where you'd put plymouth, if you had her

[rapid bough]

hood is my only other real one and i use her in mob

• hood's RLD buff messes with helena sync

[old galleon]

yeah hood's fine in mobs

[rapid bough]

that's a loooooooooong way away lol

after avp, agir, haku, and brest, probably in that order

[old galleon]

do you have ships to eventually push to 13?

[rapid bough]

probably? i'm pretty comfortable on CVs between independence, uni, sara, enty all of whom have flapjacks

my vanguard AA sucks though

[old galleon]

yeah i was thinking more in the vg aa department

though you should be fine with just one carry per fleet

your best ones would probably be sandy retro and either cheshire or shimanto, but you probably don't have the latter 2

[rapid bough]

i don't have any of em

[old galleon]

in which case your more budget options might include juneau retro and isuzu retro (if you got her to drop)

juneau just has high aa and isuzu only has aa to speak of

[rapid bough]

i do have juneau (not retro'd), no isuzu

i haven't spared w13+ much thought tbh

12-4 farming suits me just fine for a while

[old galleon]

yeah there's no real rush

13 just needs a bit more anti-air, then 14 and 15 are their own animals

[rapid bough]

i look forward to getting to the more mechanically interesting/gimmicky worlds for a change of pace that encourages using particular ships that probably wouldn't see use otherwise

but yeah i'm in no rush to get there

i'm still working on just getting enough decent 120 ships that i even have a choice about who to throw out there lol

[old galleon]

ye and that's fine

if you can farm 12-4 you're in a fine spot

Ereshkigal was originally scheduled to appear in Summer 2023

dammit nasu

[summer hornet]

once again, LB6 brainworms disrupted the schedule lol

[old galleon]

Nasu: Ereshkigal was originally scheduled to appear in Summer 2023. But I realized, "If Eresh comes on, the story is going to revolve around her," and that was hard for me to deal with! It is difficult for me to decide her suitable position, so I decide to let her be the 9th anni servant.
supposedly from the famitsu interview

[summer hornet]

well... that also means that this summer should be Ereshkigal-focused, lol

but also how does that work with Ciel in the mix

[old galleon]

ciel's here to kick beast ass first and ask questions never

[old galleon]

Famitsu: Are you saying there will be new forms of gameplay?

Nasu: The biggest additions will be on a gameplay level, and I believe the players will approve the changes. I imagine myself looking back with pride at what we managed to make just in time for the finale. It might come as a shock to the players who only level up the 7 main classes. However, if that’s you reading this, know that you still have time. Raise as many different Servants as you can now.

you heard mushroom man, raise your extra classes

[long tree]

Me who has been doing so regardless

[slow raft]

Way ahead of you (ignore xu fu)

[old galleon]

Famitsu: I want a hint. Will Bond and Class Score matter a lot?

Nasu: They will. Also how much your full roster is leveled. In the part 1 finale, we had a gauge-esque gimmick that directly converted Bond into ATK, but part 2 will have something bigger in its place. At this point, I hope I can have that playable somewhere next year, which brings back to my previous point about the 9th year being an year of preparation.

this is the continuation of that btw

[slow raft]

https://x.com/Kuragi_Tutu/status/1820818358029406551

Tutu (Vgen) C0mm Open (@Kuragi_Tutu) on X

Castoria bamboo anyone?
#fgo #Castoria #キャストリア

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 1:45 PM

[runic ether]

bamboo

[summer hornet]

Definitely scared, how do they plan to top LB7

[slow raft]

https://x.com/mqq11/status/1820662151058718749

ねこのけだま (@mqq11) on X

画集「Fate/Grand Order クリエイターコンテスト2024 pixiv COLLECTION」の予約開始されてます！これ描いたおかげで福袋景清でました！多分🤤是非手にとって見て下さい✨

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 3:24 AM

[old galleon]

possibly some combination of ||ort raid mechanics|| and solomon story mechanics, with a healthy dose of 90++ enemy comp and unreasonably big raid bosses

just throwing everything at us at that point

oh and final boss ends up being cq level akin to floofy

obligatory forced story support and/or no friend support too

perhaps even stricter limits on team comp (only 3 members, decreased party cost limit, etc)

in addition to solomon's bond bonuses, you also get bonuses for how many servants in your servant roster have been ascended 4 times

so as not to too heavily punish f2p for not having that many gacha characters, maybe the cap could be like 100 or something

(or they could say fuck y ou and have no hard cap on that)

what they really should do is improve bond ce's

since most of them aren't worth using

and even the ones that are have awful stats

2-san's been saying for like 2+ years now to get more bond ce's

so they'd better have shit in place to make it worth

[long tree]

Me who had no characters near bond 10 and just nuke Solomon with the light of god

[old galleon]

iirc i just used herc

i rushed bond 10 herc within 8 months of release bc reasons

and it worked out

[long tree]

Last thing that mf saw

https://tenor.com/view/lostbelt-arjuna-alter-karna-fgo-fate-gif-21824978

Me when I nuke old content with power creep servants

[old galleon]

such is life

https://x.com/saberchankawaii/status/1821148647486345342

nipi (@saberchankawaii) on X

遅くなりましたが9周年記念概念礼装『喝采の焔』の巌窟王とジャンヌ・オルタの衣装イメージを置いておきます。
よろしくお願いいたします…！

#FGO
#FGO9周年

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 11:37 AM

bless this artist

[summer hornet]

but how do you nuke new content?

[old galleon]

with the same servants

[copper steppe]

use more gun

[old galleon]

magoichi is indeed good civ

[astral drift]

300% damage bonus for bond 15

:prayge

bonuses for every level above 100 too

:prayge

[long tree]

Arjuna alter clears all

[long tree]

Got my partner to play fgo, they got summer ibuki in less than a ten pull

Told them to go for ibuki because of how much she trivialises the game, and they can pick waver for support later

[summer hornet]

that's really all it takes, huh

[long tree]

They jumped in cause free saber

[mortal iron]

Ibuki is certainly a character

I heard she just shows up and doesn't do shit

[long tree]

She's not super deep, onee-san/mother character

[summer hornet]

no, Raikou is the mother obesession

Ibuki is more Raita's gyaru obsession

[long tree]

Regi

She's like 10ft tall

People are gonna call her mother

[mortal iron]

I thought she was just a sports gyaru

[summer hornet]

....I hate society

there's no point to debating the meaning of mother vs mother in this case rofl

[mortal iron]

I hate the recent trend of people calling other people mother

Like "she's so mother for that"

It hurts my tiny brain

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-pain-big-chungus-chungus-gif-20705095

[summer hornet]

well that's a completely different type of mother from Raikou or Ibuki (though it does occasionally overlap)

[long tree]

I mean people have called characters daddy for decades

[mortal iron]

I don't like when they say they're so daddy for that

The sentence just hurts my brain

Also you don't say he's so father for that

[summer hornet]

At any rate: Ibuki-Douji is a character with a penchant for showing up out of the blue, using vaguely-explained powers (that push the boundaries of the setting to its limits) to either fix problems or cause them, and then dipping out with barely anything resembling an apology. And that's not even getting into her actual design

I don't like her

but Nasu and/or Raita clearly do, so good on them

[mortal iron]

I'm assuming she has good banner sales

[summer hornet]

Visually she's a swimsuit character through and through

Mechanically, she's an upgrade to one of the best AOE servants in the game

it'd be more of a surprise if she wasn't selling hotcakes

[old galleon]

ibuki is mainly a gameplay meta pick bc she's a berserker with good skills and can arts loop

there are people who like ibuki for her character but realistically people tend to roll her for her gameplay merits

[mortal iron]

One of my friends described ibuki like vegito/ss4 gogeta
They're cool, they show up for big sales, they don't do that much shit in the story

And is carried by the games

[old galleon]

well i guess she's relevant in the summer event story, but more as a behind the scenes hidden boss kind of thing

who spends most of the time on screen fucking around

[copper steppe]

yeah when she showed up first she was a bad guy

[old galleon]

as for regular ibuki, she's made appearances in lb5.5 and in the tunguska sanctuary stories

[copper steppe]

she’s also busted in canon

[old galleon]

yeah turns out basically being one of japan's goddesses does that to a person : ^)

[long tree]

Even saber ibuki is incredibly strong

Iirc her main issue is skill cooldowns but she hits hard

[old galleon]

she's koyan compatible, ye?

let's see

50% battery? check

3 turn buster buff? check
on a 5 turn cooldown? double check, can stack it on turn 2 instead of 3

she even has anti-undead bc why the fuck not

[long tree]

6 turn cooldown

[copper steppe]

also she’s voiced by my goddess aoi yuki

[long tree]

Oh the battery is I mean

[old galleon]

the battery being 6 is fine

[long tree]

It's like the max a cool down can be on double koyan right?

[old galleon]

prior to skill append, yes

skill append turns that to 7

it's nothing global has to think about yet, though

[long tree]

Her only issue is she's very much all attack power, her utility is limited

[old galleon]

oh hey, a degen enters while we're talking about a degen servant

[old galleon]

while not entirely wrong, her 3 does have np seal

so there's something

[rapid bough]

i haven't missed a single meta clear since wichita started and have barely ever seen this "negligible amount of hp left" situation that forces me to use oil... and now i see it 3 times in a day

[digital marlin]

we all are degens here

[copper steppe]

it could be any one of us

[old galleon]

personally when i actually bother to do meta fights i aim to 2 shot them

i don't mind the oil expenditure

worrying too much about oil cost is the route to 1:1 2-1 lmao

[rapid bough]

for the most part i've gotten by on the single free attempt and then letting supports kill it

i've spent oil to kill it a few times before it times out

i just find it funny that i'd never really seen my attempt + supports leave it at small slivers of hp, and then it happens 3 times in a day

had to spend a grand total of 120 oil to finish the job smh

https://tenor.com/bivFN.gif

[astral drift]

Forsen

[old galleon]

you'll be fine