so make of that what you will
#Gacha Chat
old galleon
sour tendon
i remember one christmas lotto i was farming with my parvati
and i accidentally took a castoria on reflex
and she still looped just fine
alright ill roll for her and sskadi
looks like she would have some trouble with assassins or berserkers
but both of those nodes get clapped easily by my giga cu
one day ill have the like np13 required to get him to 120
long tree
Fellas what craft essence do I pick with da ticket
sour tendon
Fellas what craft essence do I pick with da ticket
its always black grail
unless you have 4 scopes
no other CE is even close to as good as BG, not even kscope
idle grove
yeah it's bg
digital marlin
Kscope tries its best
sour tendon
i only took a scope because i have double mlb bg
id have taken another bg if i had any less than 10 total copies
old galleon
if you have mlb bg take kscope
if you have both mlb bg and mlb kscope it doesn't matter
if you don't have mlb bg take bg
slow raft
Even jot has more kscopes than me its so joever
runic ether
speaking of the fate series we hit episode 9 of stay night unlimited bladeworks second season
old galleon
that should be close to the end iirc
runic ether
believe we have 3 more episodes yea
old galleon
if you enjoyed it i'd suggest picking up the heaven's feel movies at some point
but no rush on that
runic ether
it did feel like some things were slightly rushed but overall the fight scenes were great and the characterization was p good overall
sour tendon
heavens feel movies are the franchise peak
copper steppe
i have enough sq to probably get shishou me beloved
runic ether
hm i see
old galleon
heaven's feel is great but best anime movie ever is probably a stretch
at least for me
ymmv
sour tendon
the second one is up there
copper steppe
lost butterfly is peak
sour tendon
they had that fgo money
copper steppe
also i beg you fuck yeah
sour tendon
winning
copper steppe
congrats on your grumpy old man
sour tendon
speaking of cool shiro lol
long tree
Honestly one of my lesser picks mainly because I have sabers covered but I can't deny his usefulness
sour tendon
hes such a good blue looper hes honorary extra class
long tree
Issue is I also have arts loopers covered cause spishtar
long tree
I got her too lmao
sour tendon
hot take
pretty much the strongest non support in the game
blue extra looper so she clears everything you dont specifically need a buster comp for
with the best survivability of any of the extra blue loopers so you can just take farm comps into most cqs with her blind and it works out
top echelon at least like morgan has the undying comp and all
copper steppe
i would roll destiny order if dollar prices weren’t fucked up here
sour tendon
this was my destiny
got reines
biggest win would have been kintoki obviously or maybe ibuki but reines was top 5 at least
copper steppe
oh reines is also really good
old galleon
trimmau best mercury maid
sour tendon
kayneth used volumen to lose mage duels to a literal first gen mage with half a magic circuit reines uses volumen to get fucked up at parties they are not the same
long tree
My list was murmasa, Gilgamesh, fae Lancelot, reines, Kama, raikou, summer artoria lancer, and douman mainly due to lack of picks I wanted for that one
sour tendon
fae lancelot tempted me
but it would have been np2
i cant diss Eresh that badly
since i dont even have her
old galleon
i have np4 eresh and she hits like a truck
but that's not a totally fair comparison
since she's....well, np4
but she can't bg loop
old galleon
kintoki definitely aged well
his np upgrade didn't hurt either
some of his skills are a bit bland tho
sour tendon
he was the first servant i rolled the gacha for
old galleon
he was the first 5* i got
sour tendon
originally i was gonna never roll the sq gacha and play this game as a challenge account
then i saw kintoki and i was like well fuck hes a shiny golden god
walked away without kintoki but i pulled 5 off banner black grails
in about 350ish sq
copper steppe
thats a good bonus lol
runic ether
we finished fsn
honestly, i was hoping the climax delivered and it really did
some things def felt a bit like jargon or a bit handwavey but it was fine. didnt detract from the overall narrative
slow raft
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slow raft
we finished fsn
neat
favourite character?
runic ether
i really liked archer near the end. but lancer also was pretty good.
runic ether
slow raft
i really liked archer near the end. but lancer also was pretty good.
based choices, lancer really had some great moments towards the end
personally my goats are shirou and assassin
runic ether
well. archer/shirou. i liked the dynamic shared. it benefits from being a bit of a slow burned and even tho some other aspects do get kinda washed its still good to watch since the compelling rivalry between carries.
like if i had zero knowledge, u only really find out who exactly saber is until super late and she spends a good chunk unvoiced
lancer is equally somewhat missing at some spots tho his reveals directly tie to the story even if the payoff can be written off rather quick too
this is fine since the main narrative is ultimately archer vs shirou
summer hornet
Yeah, it's the core of UBW
runic ether
and they give them both good time so u can see their similarities and contrasts
summer hornet
Glad it still delivered
slow raft
I think part of that is alleviated in the vn itself bevause you have different routes focus in on different parts of the cast
summer hornet
^
slow raft
But i guess that doesnt work as well in an anime
runic ether
ohh right that makes sense
summer hornet
Yeah, Fate is the main showing for Saber lol. Which makes it kinda awkward
runic ether
it didnt really detract enough from it overall
it was still pretty good
but there was moment i was like "ah if i had no idea who some of these ppl were through cultural osmosis or having a fate fan with me, i'd be kinda lost."
slow raft
The issue of who saber is resolved if you watch zero beforehand bit experts are still not sure if thats the correct order
summer hornet
I know this might seem like my Branding (TM) but I'm genuinely curious - what did you think of Rin, both on her own and as a companion to Shirou and Archer?
runic ether
i thought it worked fine. slightly underexplored how she worked with archer but she got good scenes with shirou. and getting the context of them working together then how archer worked with her then made sense.
slow raft
runic ether
as for her character, she was somewhat diet asuka from evangelion but there was enough points where she got to show her cleverness despite her deficiencies vs some enemies.
mostly vs caster
slow raft
i really liked the cqc segment yeah
honestly, that whole part was kinda fire
lancer vs archer, the reveal of unlimited bladeworks, rin vs caster
runic ether
mr. kuzuki and archer's talk was great
slow raft
im so brainposioned that i only remember the abriged version where archer calls him a manic pixie dream girl
runic ether
i think the pendants gave the thing away while being a good way to show rin and shirou's relation but that talk was them admitting it outright who he actually was. besides rin dream sequences.
and im glad it wasnt trying to hide it from the viewers
slow raft
i like the way it throws a bunch of hint even early on that become obvious on a rewatch, but around the start of season two i think it becomes the most overt on a first watch
runic ether
yeah for sure. caster calling them out for being but the same but she literally meant it
slow raft
throwback btw
runic ether
lol
yea i did like caster too. not my fave but i wouldnt have minded if the show kinda did end on her too?
though gilgamesh was passed the torch for that and it was the best fight imo
gilgamesh vs shirou that is
slow raft
gil vs shirou is really good yea
here i come king of heroes. do you have enoug weapons in stock?
summer hornet
Lived in my head on repeat for years
runic ether
again the writers were just very overt with things being parallels to shirou
he got to see himself but jaded and defeated and. what is likely his true apex if they were more proper heroes.
slow raft
"i have no problem with you killing yourself but take a step to the right first"
runic ether
i really liked the scene showcasing that super weapon of gil and his then hesitance to draw it vs shirou which lead to his defeat. pride before fall and all that.
slow raft
yeah, gil couldve instantly obliterated shirou had he taken him just a bit sriously
long tree
i really liked the scene showcasing that super weapon of gil and his then hesita...
I was just about to comment this, it’s that one moment of hesitation where gil was like “do i really want to admit i need this to beat him” that cost him everything and it’s so good
summer hornet
Shirou is consistently on the back foot and scrabbling just to survive throughout the route; it's very endearing
slow raft
but to admit that he would be cornered by the likes of some mongrel
is very difficult for our resident king of heroes
i like that he also admits his defeat at the end
getting that kind of recognition from gil is a feat only few have achieved
runic ether
yeah it helped show a lot of growth to shirou
to getting bodied by lancer to beating the king of heroes. had he held out longer too it'd have been a clean sweep too.
long tree
What I like about Gilgamesh is he doesn’t offer praise as a way to soften the blow to his ego, he genuinely means it
runic ether
right
i liked gilgamesh. good take on a character with a huge ego.
its earned bravado and backed up
slow raft
i think gil archer is still my least favourite form of him tho
runic ether
but shirou calls out his exact weaknesses
slow raft
ruler > caster> archer in my mind
summer hornet
Ruler?
long tree
i think gil archer is still my least favourite form of him tho
Caster is nice, haven’t seen ruler yet, caster just seems like he sees potential in people and rather than insult he tries to motivate through the right words with minor provocations
slow raft
ruler is samurai remnant
summer hornet
Ohhhhhhhh
runic ether
it also ties back to something gil said himself that he would only respect those who survived the flames of the apocalypse which. shirou literally did.
slow raft
show the caster skin
summer hornet
it also ties back to something gil said himself that he would only respect those...
I didn't remember that lol
A very good point!
long tree
runic ether
he was on some tirade about how he had gotten 10 slaves and tested their resolve and by the end couldnt kill a single one
but the world now had gone so soft and pointless he wouldnt mind killing anyone
summer hornet
Oh right, the overpopulation bit
runic ether
then he mentions his goal here and how those who survive would earn his true respect
immediately thought about how shirou had literally done so already
slow raft
sasaki is still one of my favourites tho, i fuck with him immensely
that part where caster explodes his ribcage and then hes like "alright, i get it already" goes hard
tho hes more there to interact with saber and not with shirou
long tree
What I like about shirou is even when though he’s gone through a lot of shit even at the beginning of the story, his response is “nah screw that I’m gonna be even nicer” instead of modern anime protagonists that’d brood or be edgy
runic ether
for sure. i like that he was quite literally pointless/nameless. when be said it wasnt his real name i was half-expecting him to say he was actually miyamoto musashi but the whole of it was great
slow raft
i guess in a way hes a parallel to shirou, being a "faker" and all and also being insanely obssessed with swords
runic ether
would have benefitted from maybe a few more scenes but again i get it. this show was focused entirely on shirou
long tree
And through archer we see where that road could end up but he still doesn’t care, he’s so based
slow raft
mfw when i train so hard i achieve the equivalent of true magic
glossy latch
13.2% crit rate and crit damage, 6.5% ER and 10.5% ATK, vs 7% Crit rate, 11.7% crit damage, 42 EM and 16.9% ATK, which is better for Alhaitham?
runic ether
3 cuts at the exact same time is so bs but its really cool
slow raft
for sure. i like that he was quite literally pointless/nameless. when be said it...
i think youll find actuall that its archwer whos nameless
runic ether
13.2% crit rate and crit damage, 6.5% ER and 10.5% ATK, vs 7% Crit rate, 11.7% c...
first
slow raft
saber constantly lucking out of sure kill attacks :icant:
long tree
Me when I am so deluded and nice that I’m able to just create a goddamn reality marble to represent my endless fight to save everyone, even if I am a faker using fake swords
runic ether
oh yeah lol
glossy latch
Guess Im sticking to the first
slow raft
"emiya shirou, now! yourself"
runic ether
tbf that was the only somewhat silly bit? some characters either dont die or survive some shit that was said to be unstoppable
it was fine for shirou it allowed rin to save him and set up the pendant plot. then saber survives lancer. then archer.
slow raft
with sasaki its justified in universe, the swallow reversal need certain specific conditions and the one she survived the sword was already damaged from clashing with excalibur to long so it had a gap
idk how she "nuh uh"d the gae bolg
long tree
Id just say cause she’s her and move on
slow raft
true...
runic ether
Id just say cause she’s her and move on
i dont like this as an answer cus the show is very meticulous
it doesnt really bother me ultimately
summer hornet
Id just say cause she’s her and move on
I don't want to say this but that is very Erza lol
And not in a good way
runic ether
but it does just showcase some cool abilities
slow raft
i think in canon its literally just the instinct skill lmao
slow raft
rho aias yea
long tree
I don't want to say this but that is very Erza lol
I was more so inspired by gege here but sure
runic ether
served as good payoff knowing it's in archer's arsenal even though its fake and all but it showcases the point later on that shirou says to gil
that vs anyone else, he'd be cooked. and that theres no reason a copy cant match the original
slow raft
getting called a jack of all trades and the getting beaten is like
and incomprehensibly strong blow to his ego for gil
i almost feel bad
summer hornet
💯 🪦
idle grove
beats the other ends
runic ether
i think its def a case where gil even knows shirou was right but again there's that pride. he couldnt muster the strength to use his totally unique weapon bc it would have also been a loss for him to do so
slow raft
yeah, for him the parameters of the battle were different than for shirou
idle grove
yeah man had an ego the size of the universe he's not doing anything unless he thinks someone is worthy
long tree
Gilgamesh upon seeing muramasa in fgo “I don’t know why but I both hate and respect this man”
slow raft
which is actually fair once you look into what the guy is capable of
summer hornet
Gil is a legit contender for the origin of heroes, yeah
runic ether
they framed it well. the logic makes sense
quite literally the og hero
the basis of all others
long tree
Gilgamesh casually having the weapon equivalent of a photoshop eraser
slow raft
He didnt even use enkidu during the fight i just realized
"I dont want my bf touching this faker" -gilgameshs thought process
long tree
“I can’t let two twinks touch that’d be gayer than me”
runic ether
nice
glossy latch
Now I just need to get his talents up I guess
... and probably get his teammates up
Whats the team again
Alhaitham, fischl, xq and a second dendro?
runic ether
yeah
slow raft
He didnt even use enkidu during the fight i just realized
Maybe he was afraid shirou could copy the chains of heaven? Since gil does have divinity
But saying that gil fears something is kinda weird
summer hornet
Probably subconsciously focused on the projectile spam war
runic ether
he said it had most effectiveness vs divine enemies but i imagime it was hard to do so since he was getting spammed out by shirou at various points
summer hornet
That'd be valid, yeah
Also final 2 questions for now
What surprised you most, and what are you watching next
long tree
Third question if you aren’t playing fgo already when are you starting 
summer hornet
Lmfaoooooo 
runic ether
Third question if you aren’t playing fgo already when are you starting <:nyaruho...
never? lol
i see my sister play it the game's 💤
summer hornet
I mean it spoils every other entry in the series, for one
runic ether
What surprised you most, and what are you watching next
i was surprised at what caster did to saber probs
summer hornet
Oh RIGHT the dress
runic ether
show was relatively tame in that department until then
slow raft
strongest saber simp in that game
runic ether
i was also surprised at gilgamesh vs hercules being so one-sided
summer hornet
Enkidu, man...
slow raft
tbf, thats proibably in part because harc is one of the heroes that gil kinda respects
i was gonna say also beacuse herc was summoned as a zerk of all things but i dont actually know how stong he is in his other classes
summer hornet
They do say that Herc loses most of his Noble Phantasms in Berserker form iirc
sour tendon
okay so if youre wondering how shiro beat gil
slow raft
shooting hundread heads clears 
slow raft
okay so if youre wondering how shiro beat gil
nah shes not
summer hornet
But also he's a pure offensive berserker trying to fight a defensive battle against one of the strongest opponents possible, and said opponent isn't really underestimating him at all
runic ether
They do say that Herc loses most of his Noble Phantasms in Berserker form iirc
tbf it did leave me wondering why anyone would want a berserker
sour tendon
having berserker is suffering
runic ether
ik ilia (idr her name spelling) had gone over it basically
summer hornet
Illya(sviel) von Einzbern
runic ether
easier to control when less thoughts
but surely someone like hercules, would empathize with a master that's suffering without being a berserker
idle grove
also as covered in f/z berserker is kind of a crutch summon
like you can use the chant to make a servant who you probably couldn't control yours because they're just head empty
sour tendon
which made sense for kariya and lance
long tree
It’s also that they’re ridiculously strong, but they trade their defensive game for it, Hercules berserker form does compensate that with his trials reviving him but since he has no real range options and Gilgamesh didn’t underestimate him he was very fucked
slow raft
madness enhancement is also sacrificing sanity for strength
the less sane the more power
which also works on making a weaker servant more up to the task
idle grove
p sure hercules can be any class and he is an archer in another fate work
runic ether
it feels like a choice bc they specialized in puppets/homonculi and couldnt think of going for anything but
idle grove
think he is in strange fake? not too sure tho
long tree
Yeah he is
summer hornet
it feels like a choice bc they specialized in puppets/homonculi and couldnt thin...
Probably lol
runic ether
What surprised you most, and what are you watching next
as for next, idk i'll see what my sister will show me next.
idle grove
also reminder strange fake is getting a full anime soon so we get peak in animated form
long tree
I think he probably couldn’t be a caster but other than that he should meet the requirements for the other standard classes
slow raft
im p sure its explicitly stated that he can be any of the base classes somewhere
long tree
Not sure how he can be a caster considering his magical abilities are extremely small but it could just be a fate verse difference compared to real world history
slow raft
look at your caster roster in fgo and tell me again that you have to be a mage to become a caster
idle grove
hopefully you get shown heavens feel next misty
it fleshes out a lot of characters in great ways
long tree
Apparently he doesn’t meet the requirements to be a caster
summer hornet
I was expecting Zero next lol
idle grove
nah nobody needs to watch zero
long tree
It’s stated it’s the exception
summer hornet
But HF is also valid
slow raft
clearly, next is carnival phantasm
summer hornet
nah nobody needs to watch zero
old galleon
The issue of who saber is resolved if you watch zero beforehand bit experts are ...
I started with zero and turned out fine
slow raft
zero made me cry way to much towards the end
long tree
I started watching zero but man I felt bad for the guy who summoned Lancelot
slow raft
great show tbh, but you have to know that the urobutcher wrote it
runic ether
the who
old galleon
Gen Urobuchi
summer hornet
Nasu has reportedly had to rein him in on tragedy for tragedy's sake lol
slow raft
||sure doesnt feel like it lmao||
slow raft
clearly, next is carnival phantasm <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
actually its oath under snow
just used up 3 months worth of luck in one roll, holy
versed pawn
OH LAWD HE COMIN
slow raft
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runic ether
the genshin x duolingo collab has some free primos and a month of super duolingo free if anyone does both
summer hornet
Genshin has a Duolingo collab?!
runic ether
honestly after playing jade herta
holy fuck
just
holy fuck
didnt imagine herta would be dealing as much damage as my acheron
running quite literal circles around enemies
long tree
I don't mind how jade turned out, she's highly specialised but good at what she does
Hope more units are like her in future
runic ether
she farms pure fiction like crazy
versed pawn
Told you kuru kuru is eternal
summer hornet
Yeah Jade gets crazy lol
Also I didn't realize that Furina walks on water sometimes wtf
What are the conditions for it?
versed pawn
She can walk in water when her elemental skill is active
summer hornet
Ohhhhhhhh
runic ether
and she can walk on water
summer hornet
It happened earlier after I finished a ley line and I was shocked lol
But then I couldn't replicate it; now I know why
versed pawn
U can infinitels walk on water skill holds longer than cooldown
U just can't switch the characters tho
summer hornet
what happens if you use it in Fontaine?
long tree
summer hornet
Fair enough lol
long tree
THEY GAVE THIS MAN ALL THE SAUCE GOD DAMN
summer hornet
Welcome to the club
Shiroumasa has been peak style since Shimousa
And they couldn't let us down
long tree
I don't fully understand pseudo servants but I feel like emiya wouldn't like muramasa too much because of how grumpy he can be
So it's kinda funny to see him in that body
Zzz leaks SHE GOT THE SAUCE TOO ||https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/s/WvJdeYxtEa||
runic ether
jane, qingyi, and seth all have super clean animations
seth with the charge blade
out of the 3, i think tho that seth and qingyi will age the best
stunners and defenders will kinda be able to slot wherever
we see this with anby right now
long tree
My brother in Christ you probably have enough coins to buy him
mortal iron
i can save for part 2 now
versed pawn
Currently I run piper grace and Rina
Anomaly is fun almost at ik 40 3 more days or so
runic ether
damn im at ik-33 still
long tree
I'm on lycaon, Nichole and soukaku
versed pawn
I grinded all the content 
runic ether
my main team is ellen anby sokaku
mortal iron
Could've rainbowed beast gohan
but gogeta chests
also i have enough coins to buy beast gohan when he reruns
versed pawn
At ik 35 u can allready farm 5* artifacts
long tree
but gogeta chests
He's gonna take a super to the chest for 1 mil if that's what you mean
runic ether
but i do play piper ben billy
runic ether
At ik 35 u can allready farm 5* artifacts
ah
long tree
(I'm kidding he's actually good but it goes against my bit)
mortal iron
jokes on you i havent touched red zone yet
runic ether
soon
versed pawn
Piper is real
mortal iron
He's gonna take a super to the chest for 1 mil if that's what you mean
i thought that was leasthan
versed pawn
Ye but I didn't farm it I actually prefarmed my lvl 5p Ascension mats allready instead
versed pawn
U get like 14 blues per 100 energy and u need 30 to convert to 10 purple so in 2 days and a crumbs u can prefarm character Ascension for 3 character before lvl break
versed pawn
Leveling character is much faster in zzz compared to the other hoyo games I feel
mortal iron
is there any other good characters with carnival coins
long tree
The gammas when they return
long tree
mortal iron
i'll be more twisted than recoome's kick to gohan's neck
long tree
Best team in the game rn
mortal iron
i dont have frieza 17
long tree
If you don’t have em when beast gohan returns and if you already have him you can coin them with red coins
mortal iron
i cant wait for leasthan to get an eza in 10 years and will break the game...at EOS
mortal iron
they planned leasthan to be bad
they planned gohan's uncle raditz to be a year 1 unit
long tree
Raditz being shit will always be funny to me
mortal iron
like uncle like nephew
mortal iron
holy shit dokkan has domain expansion!?
long tree
Yeah
Can't have more than one up though so units like broly who need to set up a domain to transform can suffer on teams with multiple domains
mortal iron
oh so...having 2 broly leads kinda fuck himself?
summer hornet
old galleon
probably a botter
versed pawn
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runic ether
oh right qingyi was already shown
torn harbor
stunners and defenders will kinda be able to slot wherever
I mean
Qingyi also only has the requirement of having an attacker on the team for her extra
runic ether
yes thats quite literally the point of my comment
stunners seem to be the meta characters to get ahold of bc they will very likely just work wherever
torn harbor
Wasn't your point was that stunners will age better?
runic ether
no matter the attacker, a reliable stunner will age very well
torn harbor
My point was that she can fit into basically any team due to low requirement for the extra
runic ether
that doesnt contradict my point tho it just further proves it?
torn harbor
Yes
runic ether
like unless they start making stunners hyper specific but its too early in the game to do so
torn harbor
Jane wants a double anomaly team
runic ether
torn harbor
Yes
Though my point was more so that qingyi having that low barrier is a better reason as to why she will age better than simply being a stunner
versed pawn
If I understand Jane's kit right she makes assault crit
At least have a chance to have it crit
sour tendon
<:WaitWhat:645058989490569229>
my pain is still far greater than yours
glossy latch
https://youtu.be/O2ATH__rtQo?feature=shared
Is that the fire archon?
glossy latch
What a wack design
glossy latch
It almost looks like an alt skin for Arle
versed pawn
i dont know i dont feel the leather suit thing
hopefully she has like a transformation burst or something that changes her appearance
because the way she look i almost have the feeling she comes down with a motorbike
versed pawn
outfit somewhat make me remember catwoman or in yugioh I:P
versed pawn
because its the outfit them motorcycle girls wear
runic ether
Also damn Capitano is Hanu?
lets out a grunt that sounds so cool hmph
runic ether
In that case she better do a rider kick
yeah hopefully
honestly the character design itself. besides lacking a bit of melanin, it looks pretty good overall. but i def bounced off a bit from the archon. unless they give her a motorcycle
if they do she jumps up a lot
runic ether
somewhat
there had been theories and some beliefs that natlan was going to be surprisingly futuristic
from the graffiti on the rocks
then theres that digital creature-like thing that was flying by the xiao looking dude
glossy latch
The pixelated one yeah?
runic ether
its very possible that there are regions of natlan that are way more advanced
and is the reason the nation stays really isolated
fontaine already doesnt really share much of its tech
partly cus its made to work from fontaine itself
the fatui also have some pretty high tech
and theres the whole of khaenri'ah
wouldnt doubt if somehow, natlan managed to hold the most of the tech advances that khaenri'ah had
glossy latch
Problem is everyone else has normal clothing
glossy latch
Mavuika
runic ether
in which case, she absolutely sticks out
glossy latch
We've got her name from the VO announcement
runic ether
mavuika is her given name but iirc her internal name should still be murata
unless again
it really is a new archon
glossy latch
Ah
glossy latch
Not an ars goetia demon to my knowledge
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I think Murata might just be her predecessor
runic ether
oh iansan is an elf
joins klee
technically alice
but we dont have alice's design
and pulcinella
we know super little about their elf species in teyvat
fairouz ai is jolyne right
yeah
and power
hello march
wonder what his deal will be
hanging out with capitano
heterochromia?
catboy?
no apparent vision
we saw everyone else's visions more or less besides capitano, mavuika, and ororon
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hello march
She's even cryo isn't she?
runic ether
yes
i think i saw chasca with a cryo vision too, iansan electro(?), mualani hydro, citlali cryo, xilonen geo
kascha or whatever the midget on the eggman drill mech is called also geo
the other boy was dendro
kinich is his name
kachina is the girl's name
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Also Ororon seems ... oddly out of place?
I swear he doesn't look like his aesthetic is Natlan
runic ether
hes definitely not from natlan
he may be from snezhnaya
non-fatui
actually hm
his scarf has some natlan-esque elements
the ones i missed
wonder if ajaw is replacing/joining us directly
ah u know what
that could make sense
spoilers for fontaine
||we meet the apprentices before we meet their masters. albedo -> gold. childe -> skirk -> surtalogi. ororon -> verdinofir?||
glossy latch
I'm not sure Abyss is quantum exactly
runic ether
not necessarily quantum its just the symbol thats been present from pure abyssal/outsiders
glossy latch
Is it?
runic ether
skirk and whale have both had a similar symbol present
i dont mean abyss order
all presented characters are playable so far
notably missing: xblanque
who introduced neuvillette
expected to be the pyro dragon
glossy latch
Huh, I never saw the symbol
runic ether
the whale has it mid-phase transition between the all-devouring narwhal stage to the shadow from beyond the sea of stars stage
as for skirk it's visible in her cutscene when you get to it in fontaine's story
glossy latch
Ah
runic ether
its not exactly the same but we also dont have his full art with the symbol fully visible
but said symbol is kinda reminiscent of it and theres all kinds of fatui ties to the abyss not abyss order and residents beyond the stars
mortal iron
NARUTO!?
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looks like the tower stops scaling after the 100th run
also the boss has 84b hp per bar lmao
summer hornet
https://x.com/Nikingply/status/1811723314869731798
Goes unfairly hard
slow raft
This level 120 shit aint cheap man
summer hornet
Welcome to hell
slow raft
it was indeed hell i was walking into
summer hornet
It took me a year (and NP13 bond 11) to get Emiya there
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anyways, i now have everyone i got from anni at max ascension, i am ready to move on to summer
not emotionally, but yknow
technically
summer hornet
We take technicalities
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It took me a year (and NP13 bond 11) to get Emiya there
i dont even have half the coins i need yet
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low rarity servant coins suck ass
slow raft
oh wait, they released a whole buncha rank ups, didnt they?
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you need like np300 to get anywhere with them
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should prolly get to those
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you need like np300 to get anywhere with them
around that yeah
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oh wait, they released a whole buncha rank ups, didnt they?
2 per day, ye
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i already got all the append skills for regends, so i just need the ones for level 120
summer hornet
That's already impressive, ngl
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Gee, thats one hell of an upgrade lmao
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he's still bad
just less bad
like it doesn't feel completely terrible to play him now
his issue is he's still a 3* st lancer in a rarity pool featuring best dog and best dog proto
as far as upgrades go, his is nice
certainly better than what jekyll got
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||https://youtu.be/zpz5WgRlGLM?si=vVGeyb1JZizib6fL|| related (fate zero spoilers)
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but that bar is under the earth's surface
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||https://youtu.be/zpz5WgRlGLM?si=vVGeyb1JZizib6fL|| related (fate zero spoilers...
lancer ga shinda
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copper steppe
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https://vxtwitter.com/oyuki_gms/status/1811704412940943601 i cant believe arknights got playable Screwllum before hsr
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is5 overall is looking so peak
long tree
Is the pyro archon a himeko expy?
mental acorn
tin man, free 6* m3 ticket, mudrock skin
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mudrock skin
you have my attention
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isnt that the third already?
i like the woman but geez, spare some skins for the rest of us
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it's at least her third, yes
but her most recent one was from a pretty good while ago
so it's not completely unjustified
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pr7 dropped yesterday, already got nakhimov's first exp mission done
it's russian/italian backline, which is super easy
just using soyuz/vittorio/impero in 12-4
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got my 2550 login bonus on fgo
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fanart coming in fast
ive also already seen people on the tl be horny for him but not in a way i can post here
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Can someone explain to me how Arcueid loops? She has a 100% skill so that’s stage 1, then two koyans for stage 2, but even plugging in Oberon doesn’t get her back to 100 for stage 3 unless I’m missing something
I assume she doesn’t use K scope and the apend skill to get there (or just maxed k scope)
slow raft
Uhh
I mean for oen if you take the cd mysric code that should do it
Idr the way with plug of the top of my head lemme look it up
long tree
I mean for oen if you take the cd mysric code that should do it
Issue is that’d tank her damage
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Can someone explain to me how Arcueid loops? She has a 100% skill so that’s stag...
you use 2 oberon, or 2 koyan and a way to reduce cooldowns further
slow raft
Yeah was gonna say, double oberon works too
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common variants include atlas institute and plugsuit s ibuki
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oh also i suppose i should note 2x koyan and oberon works if she has a 50% ce
t1 you use one of the koyan batteries, t2 you use arc battery, and t3 you use the other koyan and oberon
30% also works but you have to have oberon in the front and swap in one of the koyans later
t1 you use front koyan and oberon 1, t2 you use arc, t3 you swap in koyan and use othe rkoyan and oberon 2
the latter is relevant bc you don't start events with your ce mlb
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TTGL and Steins;Gate in the back
sour tendon
buster comps are so strange
summer hornet
It's the nature of buster cards in general
No np gain means you have to rely on NP batteries
sour tendon
yeah tbh im not typically a fan of buster
servants like meruko are overhyped because she requires swap oberon
the only buster servants i use is cascu unless the event ce has charge
long tree
I might make a fate stay night team on fgo
Spishtar muramasa castoria, with emiya and lancer in the back?
copper steppe
sounds fun lol
sour tendon
that would be doubling up on emiya
replace muramasa with medea lily tho and you have an undying comp
long tree
that would be doubling up on emiya
But fsn doubled up on emiya
sour tendon
you know what good point
versed pawn
Smh need more anomaly characters
Playstyle works if u can bring multiple ways with shock but shock solo seems to need more dps characters if u can't do disorder
mental acorn
lmao
summer hornet
torn harbor
double crit is so crazy
No worries
It will all hit anomaly proficiency
versed pawn
glossy latch
Ok now
My Alhaithams stats are decent
With Harbinger active its 99% crit rate and 157% crit damage
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God I think Arle has ruined other characters in open world for me
late canopy
Arle slap
late canopy
Yeah a big part of her is that she can just pocket her dmg source
If someone like hu tao or Yoimiya for instance runs into two guys and uses their skill to kill them and then walks into two more guys about 10 seconds later then they're probably waiting for their skill to come back
Arle can just keep what she has left from the initial 2 guys and bring it out again whenever
glossy latch
Yep
runic ether
With Harbinger active its 99% crit rate and 157% crit damage
thats really good
if u stopped there and only incidentally grinded it while grabbing a full em deepwood memories set thats fine
torn harbor
I see you like soldier 11
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Im guessing Alhaitham is the kinda character who doesnt do a lot of damage if you dont actually swap teammates like intended
Compared to Arle
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Figured
runic ether
it leads to super satisfying gameplay loops though
where u do tech and precise swaps
and he looks cool doing it
glossy latch
I do like his animations
versed pawn
Well not too worth to farm skill levels at IK 40 
Probably do it even at 50 first
Or just the ex skill and ultimates I guess
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finally
long tree
SAVROG KILL THAT SOLDIER
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my god new lucia frame looks good too bad i gotta have to wait 1 year to play it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZWfqZYlSTc
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I should've posted it here too
idle grove
lmfao
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https://fixupx.com/kokebanana/status/1812101752029880443?t=VpNDZP9OFt9hH7o58QaMG...
It's a Gyatdam!!!
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gods they all have so much STYLE
||I'm... pretty sure I'm glad that Aventurine didn't get booted? It would have been an interesting result, and technically it's what he wanted, but also he can do more things within the Stonehearts- particularly with Boothill||
their members are also all over the place. A blood-sucking blood-bather like Elizabeth Bathory, an Intellitron, a young boy (or more likely a Pepeshi)- presumably Amber is a nonhuman as well?
||And another reference towards the eventual war of Aeons- tying into the stated goal of Kafka and Elio for the Trailblazer and Astral Express, to one day kill a god||
Also- hilarious for Sugilite to call Aventurine extravagant, when he's the one an entire dining hall of food and gold just for himself
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so basically
Diamond- Leader, identity/species unknown
Pearl- Female Intellitron
Aventurine- Human/Avgin, gambler of legend
Sugilite- Dark-skinned human, gluttony and greed
Topaz- Human, animal enthusiast and Trotter whisperer
Jade- Human, snake whisperer
Sapphire- Griffin/Gryphon?
Agate- Identity/species unknown; might be dead, might be a Daruma?
Obsidian- Blood-sucker, blood-bather a la Elizabeth Bathory
Amber- Identity/Species unknown; Prefers neutrality
Opal- Either a child or a Pepeshi (Diamond's right ear?)
(edited it so it was in the order from the trailer)
runic ether
aventurine keeps winning
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Bust? Or maybe I'll take it all!!
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Diamond- Leader, identity/species unknown
Pearl- Female Intellitron
Aventurine- ...
itll be more useful to know what their stones are
topaz of debt collection
aventurine of stratagems
jade of credit
sugilite of ?
sapphire of ?
agate of ?
obsidian of ?
amber of the knights of favonious ?
opal of ?
pearl of ?
their main focus tells us a ton about them
we can infer some
since the image jade had with the whole gang and all showed them off in a specific light and also what we can infer from aventurine mentioning who the penacony case was passed around
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oh right, I think i remember either Topaz or Aventurine saying that there was a Stoneheart who got passed over because they would have been too violent for Penacony
runic ether
that was pearl or opal i believe
and aventurine mentioned that one or the other would have been a better fit
summer hornet
I gotta hunt that down
I'm mid-Zhongli story quest, otherwise I'd open HSR up and re-examine Topaz and Aventurine's bios lol
runic ether
it was during 2.1 quest
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okay, the wiki has a bit of stuff
in 2.1 ||the ghost of Aventurine's future|| said that Opal would have resolved Penacony without a fuss
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i believe it was sugilite we saw from jade with the pistol in hand smiling like a maniac in the still shot
and i think we had heard at least obsidian also resolves things violently
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at the end of the Belobog Trailblaze Continuance, Topaz says she thought Obsidian or Opal would have been chosen to handle Penacony https://youtu.be/ef8AtcJ27FA?si=LcyYP-LLJLkh9kA5&t=218
runic ether
they are at least p45 rank too
probably higher
so they have been stonehearts longer than the 2
which tracks with jade calling topaz and aventurine childreb
*children
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i believe it was sugilite we saw from jade with the pistol in hand smiling like ...
I think that might be Opal, honestly? I'm not sure who the guy in the left would be, otherwise
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which tracks with jade calling topaz and aventurine childreb
yeah, that makes sense
runic ether
also the detail there makes me think we'll meet him next
i do find it interesting that diamond rarely if ever talks to the group but they are rallied under him
that being said if there was ever a genshin expy for star rail i already mentally see diamond as al-haitham
summer hornet
also the detail there makes me think we'll meet him next
Opal, or Sugilite?
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...that makes sense, yeah
We're probably gonna get teased with Obsidian a little longer
wiki says that Pearl knows Screwllum (Intellitron society ig, apparently it was in Gold and Gears), but given how we haven't even seen Screwllum in main story yet...
runic ether
oh no its probably in late 3.x story
summer hornet
ngl I was pretty neutral on Zhongli before his story quest
but I can see the appeal a lot more now
runic ether
quest 1 or 2?
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Quest 1, where you go into the ruin for the God(dess) of Salt
It was actually pretty interesting, with the two 'archaeologists' with wildly different motivations
And the lore itself was neat
runic ether
yeah fs its a good quest
world building in genshin is really good
quests like these showcase it
i forget if you are already in sumeru's story or not
summer hornet
I need to complete Chasm first
unlocked all the restrictions for the barrier
but I have to complete... Kokomi and Itto story quests, apparently?
summer hornet
I think Itto's requires Kokomi's
runic ether
does it? idt it does or at least idr it
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topaz of debt collection
aventurine of stratagems
jade of credit
sugilite of ?
s...
Sapphire and pearl are the 2 who interest me the most
summer hornet
runic ether
im not yet 2 years in genshin
i only started genshin as sumeru's story was concluding
torn harbor
I started genshin in mondstat
And ended it at dragonspire
torn harbor
I like that Victoria housekeeping's introduction is
"We have never heard of you before"
"It's understandable, we don't advertise to poor people"
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I like that Victoria housekeeping's introduction is
"We have never heard of you ...
has hayate santa energy
versed pawn
Man can't Jane come out next week allready
versed pawn
mental acorn
clueful
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this is from break the ice, right?
mental acorn
yea
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thought i remembered that exchange
yeah break the ice was a neat story
and it gives kjera so
mental acorn
oh hey invitation to wine record restoration is in a couple days
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kokodayo
kokodayo but 5*
mental acorn
yan's tourism industry...
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How good is Kaveh?
long tree
Not very iirc
He's babygirl though and appears once in a blue moon so I'll do my best to get at least 1
mystic python
He's an Alhaitham but without the big damage Alhaitham does
mortal iron
Yeah coz he doesnt get the mirrors
mental acorn
crazy
runic ether
the natlan alternate splash arts are cool
the regular splash backgrounds are interesting too
we see the six tribes
long tree
I like how they gave that funky dude goggles
runic ether
and kirara's splash looks straight out of hsr
if u said she was a penacony character i'd believe you
runic ether
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Is she a phantom thief now?
runic ether
I just noticed mualani is tanned
those are tribe markings
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Also idk about these designs
Kinich is alright
But Im not gonna get another Dendro DPS 💀
runic ether
from leaks, mualani is a hydro on-field dps
but the other 2 are rather unconfirmed
better to save for pyro archon
since the archon is almost always guaranteed to have a very good kit
runic ether
How good is Kaveh?
also coming back here, kaveh has a niche in nilou bloom specifically
hes worse haitham outside of that. in nilou bloom, he can accelerate bloom damage a lot and can enable some set ups u otherwise cant
hes extremely tanky since his bloom self damage isnt there
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I'm probably gonna roll for Kinich
runic ether
and he can allow healerless blooms
summer hornet
Assuming I don't get Kaveh on Navia banner
runic ether
pulling for navia?
honestly bc we are getting a free kirara this event, and the fact collei is free, i am tempted to say nilou is the best pull from the 1st half of 4.8
that being said, nilou bloom teams are a green flashbang
but they do clear content very well
2nd half its yelan
and its not particularly close
nothing against emilie yelan is just that good
runic ether
huh??
this shit can potentially be so peak
do it zzz. become devil may cry
become metal gear rising
summer hornet
pulling for navia?
Her trailer impressed me
I'm not terribly interested in Geo on the whole, but I'm willing to go for her and Zhongli
They're cool/stylish
runic ether
oh you'll love navia in the story then
summer hornet
Just gotta get through Sumeru (though I’ve heard Sumeru is equally peak; IRL friend praised it and Gigguk- as unreliable of a source as he can be- said it was on par with Penacony in his opinion)
And the Chasm
And Kokomi and Itto’s story quests
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Navias a decent unit too tbh
runic ether
ye
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While talking to an NPC on Yashiori Island I got hit by lightning
By the time I finished the convo, my point character had died from the poison water at the bottom of the gorge
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"nice try, jackass! next time, give it your a game"
runic ether
By the time I finished the convo, my point character had died from the poison wa...
what'd you do to piss off raiden
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Either she's upset I got sidetracked on the Itto story quest, or she's still salty over the runback I had with Yae's help
runic ether
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And Dan Heng is officially out of a job
...please don't let this one go the way of Jiaoqiu
She looks cool, darnit
runic ether
yet damn i wasnt expecting a fair bit of lore
torn harbor
And tomorrow is lingsha 😄
summer hornet
If Columbus legit stole one of my Grails I would never recover
long tree
A skillful play by Columbus- and he’s made a singularity with blackjack and hookers
slow raft
story locked, innit
honest pawn
well yeah but I'm at Heian-kyo
also, real talk
please.
please make him an anniversary or new year's servant.
long tree
LETS GO
mortal iron
how do i beat 9th anni ultimate clash
i keep getting supered turn 1 and die instantly
slow raft
damn, tough choices for the heroic spirit portraits
summer hornet
oh wait, do those expire today?
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nice, nice
long tree
how do i beat 9th anni ultimate clash
It do be like that, it’s built around you having a ton of at least somewhat recent teams
mortal iron
I got super killed turn 1 with gogeta
long tree
Yeah you need two leaders for each team
long tree
I usually don’t bother with it tbh
long tree
It’s more so annoying, they don’t balance them very well so it can just end up you lose a lot of units to one stage
mortal iron
also goddamn there are so many ezas that require you to do a bunch of ezas before you can do the other ezas
im tired of farming hercule big zeni
runic ether
oh i get it. i know why lucy reminded me of someone. shes fucking fischl. shes just fischl 2
long tree
Lucy's the blond haired punk kid right? I think I have a copy or two of her
She any good?
runic ether
one of the best
shes like bennett of zzz
though tbh so is sokaku
basically every character in zzz is pretty good so far just some have better teams/synergies right now
neko and billy for example, are missing a physical buffer
like sokaku and lucy and nicole exist for ice, fire, and ether respectively
theres only 3 stunners as well those being anby, koleda, and lycaon
but, basically everyone is very playable
but ie: ellen will have a dedicated stunner and a support
soldier 11 same deal
grace too
same with zhu yuan
but billy and neko dont have a non-nicole support that buffs their physical damage
their kits also dont appreciate anby since anby hogs the field time
1.1 will bring qingyi which is a stunner and jane who is an anomaly for physical so billy and neko will keep waiting for a bit
long tree
How is Grace btw I lost the 50/50 to her
runic ether
great
its weird to describe zzz characters cus they are quite different to other hoyo games
basically on their stat screen for their basic info, the glowing yellow stat is their main stat they want
as for teams: anby nicole
works very well
its kinda like hsr dot?
but also similar to genshin's dendro teams
learn to consistently land nicole's secret attack too
vital for the team
and anby's bnb combo will also require some practice
long tree
I'm using Nichole in my lycoan and sokaku team
runic ether
nicole + grace will work very well
and anby is a natural fit
cus stunner is broken
long tree
Corin or nekomiya?
runic ether
if you have neko she works but corin has buffs thanks to lycaon
oh and if you have piper, she can also work with grace if your anby is busy
long tree
Awesome ty
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runic ether
did the top girl clone herself or was it asexual reproduction
slow raft
Adoption i think
runic ether
thats way more normal than i imagined for fate characters
slow raft
Dont ask from whence the cat ladies come tho
long tree
1 being into 9 basically
old galleon
Dont ask from whence the cat ladies come tho
what cat ladies? all i see are beautiful foxes who totally won't kill you or consign you to eternal debt
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its probably some bs
||to perhaps overly summarize koyan's origin story, she's the wrath of the animals that died from the tunguska meteor crash, personified||
runic ether
i knew it was some bs
i appreciate it tho
from watching fsn my understanding is that they dont need to make it make a ton of logical sense if it is just cool
and i like that in writing
long tree
So long as it's arguably well known or of historical merit it can have a fate servant, even if fictional
The Voyager space craft for instance
Some servants though are funny and are strong enough to force themselves through the summoning system and alter theirs or others saint graphs to be whatever class they want (this is often the case for summer servants)
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bless scathach
long tree
Kiara is another example, being a class that she physically should be incapable of being purely to fuck with BB
old galleon
not too familiar with the next summer event's story yet but i'm pretty sure skadi does some shenanigans this time around
anything she can do, i can do better - skadi, probably
long tree
I like how a lot of them it's just "I wanted to change outfit but if I'm summoned I'm gonna resort to my usual attire, fuck it, the throne of heroes can suck it, I'm getting my cute swimsuit"
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meanwhile, jp's in year 9 of the game and the 7th year since eresh was made playable and she's still in summer hell
(to say nothing of the medea and medusa fans)
hell medusa has a swimsuit design in hollow ataraxia, so she's right there
inb4 fgo pulls a gbf and introduces new characters as summer versions
you wanted playable ciel? can't wait until tsuki collab? bam!
(that one ain't happening lmao)
actually now that i think about it it'd be pretty funny if they decided they wanted to celebrate fsn 20th anni by making this year's summer event fsn themed
ofc we already have s artoria (and s salter)
archer already has a summer skin
but cu, medusa, medea, herc, kojiro, and cursed arm all have room to get stuff
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runic ether
where's the soldier 11 dante to the anby vergil
versed pawn
I hate prefarming
But we must do what we gotta do
Prefarmed lvl 60 mats for 4 characters now only 2 to go and than I going for wengines
And after that I can disc farm in peace
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astral drift
one more day...
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wasn't proto merlin the first one released?
summer hornet
Iirc it was Proto Merlin, S Ibuki, and then S Skadi
summer hornet
actually now that i think about it it'd be pretty funny if they decided they wan...
I'd have to pledge eternal allegiance to Nasu if he made that happen
Low-key
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versed pawn
When u try to escape Raye but she follows u into your gacha games
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when you try to escape musashi but she follows you into a different gacha game
