Then I can fix up Wrio
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runic ether
yeah hopefully for 5.0
glossy latch
Yeah I checked Wrios artifacts arent great
Goblet and circlet dont have Crit substats, 2/3 of the last ones have only 1 crit substat
Arle meanwhile I think is as close to optimal as I can reasonably get
Also is Freeze just not great in Abyss 12?
long tree
I think damage wise it should be fine but you're not like actually going to freeze a fair amount of enemies due to resistances and whatever
glossy latch
Im mostly concerned damage-wise ye
long tree
Nothing about the blessing or enemies screams freeze would be an issue
glossy latch
Then it really must just be Wrios damage being lacking
... or maybe I forgot to level Furinas burst
long tree
Which half are you running them in
glossy latch
Second
long tree
Mirror maiden and frost operative should be the only issues
versed pawn
Moonlit or rejuv
dull bridge
I have a shitton of moonlit so moonlit it is
versed pawn
Moonlit if u want to be hybrid reju if u just wanna cancel her forte for the attack buff
versed pawn
U can either use heron or turtle for her I guess but if Verina is allready on turtle heron makes more sense for the dmg % buff it provided
Turtle stacks additive with her forte so 100% dmg reduction for 3 Hits
idle grove
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runic ether
Also is Freeze just not great in Abyss 12?
freeze has been pretty weak in abyss for a while
outside of floors 9 through 11
melt/burnmelt is better for cryo
or hyperfridge
glossy latch
Hmm
glossy latch
So either I go for Navia, but her artifacts are even less optimised, or I try to build up Alhaitham quickly
runic ether
hyperbloom absolutely smashes this abyss
1st or 2nd half
tho word of warning, do you have the dendro and electro at 90?
cus it wouldnt just be haitham
i think navia would have an easier time
glossy latch
Navia probably would, but Id have to fix her artifacts up badly
Probably just Gilded Dream if so
Err
Golden Troupe
The one with Marechausse
Instead of her bis one
runic ether
yeah
glossy latch
Should probably still get her skill crowned and level Alhaitham
runic ether
you can leave her skill at 9
for navia that is
fischl personally wants her skill at 10 since her burst refreshes oz
so u get way more value out of it
like
navia going 6/9/8
would get u a lot
since u still use her normals and burst for damage
for fischl's case, its just all oz
glossy latch
Fischl is for when Im running Alhaitham properly tbh, so less prioritised
runic ether
for some reason i thought u were doing fischl navia
glossy latch
Nah, itd probably be a Benny team
glossy latch
Maybe, but I kinda like Benny and Xiangling
runic ether
it is the dynamic duo after all
long tree
The free one is good from herta on him
versed pawn
And yet I want sig 
long tree
Eh frees up fall of an aeon for another unit?
versed pawn
Well u rarely with have them both at the same rotation. I guess
Like I don't have enough pulls that patch right now to get s1 and sig and s1 feels redundant in her current Bis team since that has no skill point issue to begin with
Makes more sense with s2 since she actually take double turns to consume skill pints
slow raft
But which version of the shark 
mental acorn
just the regular one for now the other will be coming home on the walter banner
old galleon
sandy augment is looking very, very good
unrelated, sandy absolutely didn't need a fuckin augment
izumo augment is also looking pretty good, for like the 5 people who still use izumo
wichita meta looks terrible to me, but i don't like enmity mechanics in azur lane
Decreases the AP DMG this ship takes by 30% (no longer takes additional burn dmg and increase burned debuff chance);
When this ship fires her Main Guns, self +15% DMG Dealt for 8s;
A Legend's Inheritance (both normal and upgraded) barrage proc rate increases by 30%.
(TL Note: The barrage proc rate increase is UNCONDITIONAL.)"
izumo
(argor note: the barrage proc rate originally was 70% at level 10)
When firing Anti-Air Guns, 15% chance to increase fleet's Anti-Air by 50% for 8s;
When this ship fires her Main Guns, additionally proc a Lv.10 starry barrage that ignores shields."
sandy
so the key with sandy's augment is this bit
When this ship fires her Main Guns
she can use destroyer guns
and there doesn't seem to be any sort of timegating
so she just fires a barrage with every shot
and is technically a ur post-retro so has actual stats to back it up
(and has mgm+1)
glossy latch
@runic ether is the flute at all relevant or is it a meh 4*?
slow raft
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honest pawn
I thought that was Astolfo for a second
runic ether
Got Thoma's C6 from the standard banner
nice lmao
also to clarify on the flute since i have time rn
its just a stat stick
could do better/worse but its only offering raw atk which in a game with bennett requires a very specific set up
slow raft
ah ok
copper steppe
man im losing steam with the amount of farming hsr needs to make a single character playable
and not only that i have to rely on rng to get relics, i hope they somewhat change this
at least re-roll substats
glossy latch
Unlikely Im afraid
slow raft
yeah the whole rng was the reason i stopped playing for a few months
perhaps the worst gacha subsystem i have ever experienced
idle grove
same
but also like
you just make the characters as good as you can and then work from there
unless you have god rng you can't make them perfect first time
glossy latch
I mean getting a playable character is easy
MoC 12-capable character, less so
But yeah its annoying
slow raft
playable sure but all of my chracters still feel really weak even after weeks worth of energy invested into them
long tree
Relics is a weird thing cause like either you have nothing to do when your characters are built or you spend eternity on the sisyphian task of getting the optimal stats
long tree
I think they should probably have killed the flat substats but they're not gonna do that
Getting the right body piece and orb hurts too
Chain as well cause I swear err has a lower chance to appear
glossy latch
The synthesiser thing makes it marginally less painful
Yeah ERR is one of the two lowest odds stats iirc
long tree
Nothing hurts more than using your custom piece items and seeing dog shit sub stats
Like damn I gotta wait like a month to get another one
glossy latch
Actually there is one thing
Getting good substats then having your rolls miss them entirely
idle grove
yeah I'd rather have dog substats than good ones that either roll low or dont roll
glossy latch
Ok I am glad I didnt go for Robin
I swear youd go insane from that song
(Im using her in the event)
long tree
Robin is one of those characters id usually get because it'd help yuany boi but damn I could not justify it over skipping topaz again
glossy latch
I dont think I could handle her song playing 24/7
copper steppe
welcome to myy
long tree
WoOoOoOoOrld
idle grove
I play the game with sound off when I farm anyway so it wouldn't bother me
glossy latch
Like bro I cant even listen to my favourite songs that much
I like having sound otherwise is the issue
glossy latch
God if only the 4* on Boothills banner werent ass
I so want to roll for him but I have all 3 E6d
And Fireflies banner has Xueyi who I want Eidolons for
slow raft
bro im in the 2.2 bossfight and im getting fucking faust flashbacks 
idle grove
God if only the 4* on Boothills banner werent ass
thank god the 4*s on the ruan mei banner are good too 
glossy latch
thank god the 4*s on the ruan mei banner are good too <:clueless:105371497587043...
I mean Misha sucks
But Gallagher is unironically the best 4* healer out there and Xueyi is actually pretty good at high Eidolons
However you will go insane trying to farm her items
idle grove
yeah trust me I have her e4? from the robin banner
slow raft
hsr ||if we get a third end credits scene in 2.3 and noone interrupts it hades style, im gonna be so mad||
alos i just found out welts real name
imagine being named joachim
ig i shoulda expected it to be german aswell as his...
is welt a codename or a title?
glossy latch
You think thats funny
His last name is Nokianvirtanen
Welt is a name he inherited
The previous Herrscher of Reason was Welt Joyce, when Joachim took over his power and role, he took the name as well
Yang is the last name of his mom
slow raft
His last name is Nokianvirtanen
yeah i saw that too but joachim is way funnier to me
glossy latch
Really, compared to the last name of a swedish person that literally has Nokia in it?
Err
Finnish
slow raft
yea
glossy latch
Fair enough
versed pawn
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dull bridge
https://x.com/fomer_lin/status/1800225382391861641/photo/1
damn
might need to switch mains now
slow raft
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versed pawn
damn
My man I'm waiting for art dropped for 3 days finally a successful night
I like her she cute and sparkly
Yinlin taking all the spotlight
summer hornet
man im losing steam with the amount of farming hsr needs to make a single charac...
At least you can auto battle it with support characters
summer hornet
and not only that i have to rely on rng to get relics, i hope they somewhat chan...
Oh NVM you specifically mean relics
runic ether
you can still auto battle for relics
tho as i said b4 hsr relic grind feels much worse than genshin does and idk why exactly
maybe its cus it only goes to 15?
so when u dont get as good rolls u feel them more
summer hornet
It feels the opposite for me lol
runic ether
vs in genshin going to 20 means u often have a little wiggle room
also speed mattering in hsr
theres no basically 4th/5th substat in genshin u need to farm for
summer hornet
But I'm pretty sure part of that is because I'm in the middle of the grind in Genshin and getting smashed between bosses
runic ether
sometimes u need a bit of er but genshin weapons are amazing
and u can funnel particles
some characters in genshin can need em but em buffers are a thing
and similiarly weapons give fantastic substats
okay i think i have narrowed a reason
light cones in hsr feel like dogshit
summer hornet
You don't have to do light cone material specific farming, at least
... Well no, you do for levels
But not ascension
runic ether
no thats not the issue
the issue is that a ton of hsr light cones dont do even close to what 4 star weapons in genshin do
you'll get a weapon like a favonious warbow
and that solves 90% of your energy troubles in genshin
vs hsr you'll run your balls across a field of nails to get a bit of err on a rope
and thats it
a single 3 star lc that regens good energy and only for the wearer
summer hornet
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runic ether
yeah
not firefly's fault that she shares scenes with basically the tallest characters in the game
appears next to sampo
massive tall guy
appears next to stelle/caelus
also massive tall ppl
appears next to march and himeko
also rather tall
and gallagher and sunday
summer hornet
Is March actually that tall?
summer hornet
Lmfao yeah that makes sense
runic ether
some character art also makes characters appear shorter/taller
ie clara's splash art makes her look tiny
but shes the tallest child
march's splash art makes her seem kinda small imo
same with firefly
runic ether
https://x.com/DailyHI3Chibi/status/1801092827637797187?t=Nb7lUaBjpk7r_74k016nSg&...
in any case
6' vs 5'11"
summer hornet
runic ether
wasnt expecting ||kafka at the end||
summer hornet
||Mother of the Stellaron Hunters||
||the Swarm War scenes at the start went really hard||
summer hornet
Ngl, I agree with Kazuha here
Finished with his story quest; I have to admit that I enjoyed Raiden’s more but this was still really nice
Interesting to get the lore on all the swordsmith clans, ||and the cursed sword tugged at my heartstrings a bit||
Shame that the reward sword isn’t terribly useful; I’d be surprised if it was better than Proto Rancour
versed pawn
https://x.com/giri_az2/status/1800819819476082838?s=61&t=7tWIxbOdxNC_-wEw2U-VHg
Fire who give me that girl with glasses
runic ether
Shame that the reward sword isn’t terribly useful; I’d be surprised if it was be...
it is
on kazuha
prototype rancour is basically just a bennett weapon until you can get sapwood blade nowdays
ig rancour can be used for physical keqing too?
but thats niche
that said, kazuha has stronger options in fav sword and iron sting
runic ether
Finished with his story quest; I have to admit that I enjoyed Raiden’s more but ...
also yeah for the most part, this game doesnt has bad story quests for characters
the hangouts are fun too
tho some are better than others of course
raiden's 2nd, nahida's 2nd, haitham's, furina's, neuvillette's, navia's, cyno's 2nd
are all really good
tighnari's too
shit like
summer hornet
Fire who give me that girl with glasses
as long as I get not!Kaworu we can be allies 🤝
runic ether
most of them are good to great
runic ether
well
its favonious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quest sword > rancour
fav sword is arguably better than kazuha's personal weapon
freedom sworn
its nice as a buff if u manage to get it at some point
but for the team? kazuha triggers fav sword extremely well and is more or less his signature sword
just from synergy
summer hornet
oh dang, okay
summer hornet
...oh you can only get it from wishes
runic ether
you get the one free fav bow
haitham, yae, nahida
jean, kaeya, lisa (sometimes), xiangling, xingqiu, fischl
all of these characters have arguments for using fav as their best weapon
xianyun too
but it only makes sense
imagine if hsr had a universal all path lightcone(s) that regenerated ult charge to the whole team
just for landing crits
and raised your baseline err
thats possibly infinite ults on jingliu and supports
summer hornet
yeah no that would be insane
runic ether
we have that in genshin
i often run 2x fav on teams
unless the energy reqs are so low
i have exactly one team with no fav and its a team with 2x electro which is basically a single fav worth of extra energy
runic ether
imo fav weapons are almost as if not more valuable than some 5 stars lol
at least having r5 fav weapons
but i would hold onto low refines until you get enough to r5 one
ie: you have 2 r1 fav swords
its better to have both than to have an r2
the logic follows besides fav greatsword since theres a surprisingly good amount of good claymores but a lot of claymore users dont need a ton of energy
somewhat sameish for fav codex (catalyst) since again
ton of good catalysts
means you'll have options
summer hornet
...so ultimately, hold off on using Kazuha quest sword
I haven't rolled for any rate up banners since Kazuha (save 2-3 rolls for 4-stars) since I'm saving for Furina
but she's like 2 weeks away
so presumably I'll snag a couple favonius weapons, if not, sword, there
mystic python
Ye the Kazuha sword hasn't been too good since they released Finale of the Deep
The Fontaine craftable
high escarp
My first thought after watching the new HSR cinematic
I want a helldivers collab
I don't know how it would work
But we've had R6 x Arknights so it's not completely unrealistic
summer hornet
Arknights is also just built different when it comes to collabs
R6, Monster Hunter, and gundamn Dungeon Meshi
runic ether
Ye the Kazuha sword hasn't been too good since they released Finale of the Deep
i totally forgot about finale tbh
its goated but i dont have a use for it bc of all the other swords i already have
runic ether
yelan
fischl can use it sometimes
amber
sara
siegewinne if u nab her for some reason
gorou
diona
summer hornet
Sethos?
runic ether
he wants em
he wants someone else using fav(s)
sethos fischl (she can use fav), yaoyao (also can use fav), sucrose (same)
while he uses this new event bow or slingshot
summer hornet
from the wargame event?
idle grove
god that firefly short was so good
summer hornet
summer hornet
Meteor is iirc
summer hornet
Lol
slow raft
wait, viviana doesnt count as kazimierz lmao
and i forgot about farthooth for some reason
summer hornet
wait, viviana doesnt count as kazimierz lmao
To my neverending sorrow
This is an old screenshot for the record
My main issue with Kazimierz.jpeg has been healing, ironically enough
slow raft
no elemental damage gealing really sucks for is, but i can probably make this work
if i get the right vouchers that is
also, id have to upgrade a few of these first
2 elite 2s and 6 modules
7 modules, flametials other module has kazimierz support
HUH?
summer hornet
AYYYYY
slow raft
An insane talent on a quick redeploy, luckily there arent that many operators that make this broken
Like, radiant nearl is oretty much the only one that really wants this but its still very nice if any of your units ever die
summer hornet
Pretty much yeah
slow raft
Huge fan of nichenights tho, maybe after this i try out abyssal hunters
Though this roster looks alot more pathetic than the other one
high escarp
I want a helldivers collab
https://b23.tv/V8wF40R
Turns out I’m not the only one
slow raft
Though this roster looks alot more pathetic than the other one
Sometimes i foget how fucked some of the module effects are
Wdym 30% less damage for my whole squad?
And then gladia is like "but wait, thats not all" and slaps signifciant health regen on top of it
runic ether
Fav addiction
i forgot faruzan in my list cus i run dps faruzan oops
glossy latch
what if we had a character that is just a talking true sting
Hoyo would never unfortunately
runic ether
hsr felt like the chance for such a thing
but its actually zzz where we will likely see the more unconventional design the way ppl are thirsting over lycaon
glossy latch
Even then its more furrybait than truly unique innit?
runic ether
yea true
tho billy kid also has been doing well for popularity
again still humanoid
but it gives hope that we wont get as many safe designs
insert gow ares meme: hoyo, give me a full furry girl in zzz and my life is yours
glossy latch
Huh, apparently theres a neat Chlorinde comp with Qiqi
runic ether
ppl meme but qiqi is not actually bad
mid yes but not bad
and she comes up every once in a while in weird teams
glossy latch
This one is neat, but I dont have Qiqi and idk if I wanna roll for Chlorinde
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runic ether
This one is neat, but I dont have Qiqi and idk if I wanna roll for Chlorinde
u probs shouldnt since its unlikely u will get her without spending money
like the scenario would be
you pull on clorinde, lose the 50/50 to qiqi, then pull again and get clorinde
and now you are going to be building haitham, qiqi, clorinde
glossy latch
Neat
slow raft
Actual comical run this was, hot offered two 6 stars for free
And they even were good ones!
Free max mastery/level/module pozëmka? Dont mind if i do
wispy bough
Wuthering waves is peak (I dont know how to rate games)
summer hornet
I think it bears saying that the scope of this game is absolutely insane
Like I thought Mondstadt was big already, and they kept upping it each time
wispy bough
Was abt to say who tf is sethos, then remembered I have not played genshin or caught up on it since like November
wispy bough
Like I thought Mondstadt was big already, and they kept upping it each time
Wait till u get to Fontaine
summer hornet
I haven't even started Sumeru story lmao ☠️
I'm just trying to get Sethos materials, which requires me to go through these winding underground tunnels and scoot between massive not-natural disasters
long tree
Regi after discovering a whole new world (he fell down a pit and now has started at 30 hour quest chain)
old galleon
welcome to final fantasy 3
summer hornet
It said "11 more quests to go"!!!
summer hornet
I don't even remember how I found out about him tbh
didn't watch his trailers till post-Inazuma, but I knew about him before his rerun banner dropped
long tree
Could've just been cultural osmosis, he's probably the best 5 star you could pick up for an account and he's quite popular
summer hornet
I didn't look up any professional guides or anything when I started
I asked people here, a few folks in a FGO server, and one guy I met at Heaven's Feel 2 to send me interesting character trailers
Misty gave me advice, and I just wandered in blind
Kazuha has saved my butt though
Climbing, fighting, running are all easier because of him
Definitely the hard carry for me
runic ether
i will say
there are times when i may feel a bit sad at times but then i remember there are ppl without kazuha in genshin
and i cheer up a bit
not even entirely for gameplay
just exploration convenience
runic ether
his skill also has a vacuum effect to gather items
and he can use it again mid-air
to propel himself on longer flights
old galleon
okay so this wasn't my target but i'll take it, i guess
saves me 5 treatises and chants and she ends up further improving my future fire comps
so i can't complain too much
wispy bough
Pity 8
versed pawn
noice
dull bridge
autumntrace or verdant on calchero 🤔
prob autum so better crit ratio
or if I do verdant
I can go 44 111
with double crit rate mainstats
slow raft
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summer hornet
That was such a fun summer
idle grove
The new clockie event implies that March 7th ||is a Memokeeper||
is this the one where you fix the theater
glossy latch
Aye
versed pawn
I can go 44 111
Never go 4/4/1/1/1 I know electro % can be annoying to find but u can also use atk% which is like 2% weaker
Tho imo you see not wasting mats on 4/4/1/1/1 as some people make it seems since 2 of those pieces can be used on another character
The point for that is that the 3 point slots have much a lot more bases tats
dull bridge
Never go 4/4/1/1/1 I know electro % can be annoying to find but u can also use a...
no its more
I could get a better crit ratio
with 44
versed pawn
U can very easily so but u will lack elemental% dmg bonis
versed pawn
Tho atk% 3 slot isn't too shaby either
Fron calcs they show its like 2%ish weaker than elemental
dull bridge
anywyas im doing tunes on calchero
versed pawn
But if u have a crit weapon allready hitting like 70% crit isn't too hard I feel just a bit of a annoyance to get
versed pawn
My jianxin is currently on 68/225 without a crit weapon
versed pawn
My tip is for 1 pointers and 4 pointers u can check the first stats if it's bad scrap it
Like check 2 at max if u don't find crit scrap it
Goal is to have double crit stats
And 1 pointers u get plenty and 4 pointers u can farm infinitely
Like if u have crit dmg and chance on all 5 pieces it can go like 30-55 depending on the roll value + the 22 if u use a critrate mainstat
And critdmg is like 55-105
And given u have like 50 cdmg imu probably only have cdmg on 3 pieces with arround 13-16 each so if u find the cdmg in the other 2 u will hit like 220-230
dull bridge
ok
summer hornet
The new clockie event implies that March 7th ||is a Memokeeper||
||the part where Black Swan mentions a Memokeeper with a camera?||
glossy latch
Aye
runic ether
||we arent sure if she means its march since there is multiple memokeepers in penacony||
summer hornet
So that was another depressing Clockie Clockwork Quest
||the conclusion was pretty uplifting, at least||
||but MAN that one hit too close to home||
runic ether
got the good ending i suppose
copper steppe
so what will happen to || gallagher pitbull after he probably died||
runic ether
||the dog was modt likely sleepy. the death meme||
summer hornet
got the good ending i suppose
||yeah, I didn't let her jump. Already got tested by the game previously with the Dreamweaver bird Blue||
long tree
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slow raft
Decent is3 squad id say
Not enough to defeat the last knight but oh well
nvm, it was enough
slow raft
Ending 3 is actually easier than ending 2
Ishar'mla might just be washed
Still had 32 hp left
runic ether
slander posts are here
summer hornet
long tree
The virgin "firefly was completely butchered in order to make her the MCs girlfriend" Vs the chad "firefly is fulfilling a wish she has, being able to be treated like a regular living being if only for a day instead of a weapon, and chose to do so with a person who is currently experiencing a similar issue"
runic ether
i dont think shes been completely butchered (yet)
but ayaka was in genshin
so i dont have too much hope for firefly 
wanted firefly to be way more of a psychopath considering her past. her drive to want to be more of a normal girl falls flat when the story has treated her as such
long tree
Personally I disagree, I think her want to be treated normal Vs her being forced to follow a script which uses her as a weapon was well done. She has scenes where she's normal as she envisions it, and then she's forced into the suit again, she may come back, but the fact she has to leave again shows she's still tied to her past
Also I definitely think we get a large enough amount of mentally unstable characters in general
runic ether
her script has been extremely small according to elio
so she doesnt actually has that going for her
long tree
I mean it still forces her in the suit
runic ether
right but when out of the suit, shes been a totally normal girl and no one has said anything about it
or even made a fuss or been uncomfortable with it
long tree
Yeah it's the down time she gets
copper steppe
what if elio scripts are just 4chan greentexts
long tree
Of the stellaron hunters the only one who doesn't get downtime is blade
And thats because he is his issues
She's not normal still though, shes a living weapon constantly being used as such
Just because she gets breaks doesn't mean she has a normal life
It's like saying shinji from Eva has a normal life and is normal, there's baggage there still
runic ether
idt stellaron hunters ever do sure
runic ether
It's like saying shinji from Eva has a normal life and is normal, there's baggag...
and this isnt really shown though
copper steppe
how many stellarons do the stellaron hunters have
runic ether
she hangs out with the tb and other trailblazers just fine
long tree
Her down time is also as unovven is mentioned in a dream
glossy latch
She cant normally leave her suit without risking her Entropy Loss Syndrome progressing
runic ether
we do see her outside of penacony outside her suit
its not as big a deal when blade was driving her around jepella
and blade didnt urge her to activate sam
he was just like "go ahead whenever"
glossy latch
I am pretty sure that was meant to be metaphorical
runic ether
the cutscene? idt so
we know they were there
and the recent trailers has also shown she can absolutely be outside the sam suit for extended periods of time
im not gonna count in-game us getting to play her in overworld
but she doesnt struggle with that
and the other trailblazers dont... care that shes a stellaron hunter or that shes a walking nuke
long tree
If she's still following the script it doesn't really count, she's still a weapon, just with the safety on
runic ether
no one reacts negatively to her being there
so her desire to be normal is already complete
even if she has a job later
long tree
...no one reacts differently to aventurine even though his organisation has been known to nuke planets?
runic ether
when shes outside the job, shes totally normal and no one treats her bad for it
long tree
The people in star rail just do not give a shit
runic ether
they do tho
copper steppe
did she get her illness post cucaracha apocalypse or after
glossy latch
I mean also to be fair, the astral express is not the usual
runic ether
sunday forced him to speak only truths through the power of order and everyone in the express was like "lets be wary of him and his intentions while still using him"
copper steppe
i feel it was mentioned once and never again
glossy latch
Its explained in background lore
She has it as a result of being genetically modified
runic ether
its in her background and glammoth planat set iirc
copper steppe
oh i don’t read the background lore
isn’t that pretty important to be just treated as background lore
runic ether
also given their reaction to kafka, blade, and silver wolf, it doesnt add up to their current reaction to firefly
long tree
sunday forced him to speak only truths through the power of order and everyone i...
Because the express has experienced a double faced leader two planets before hand and presumably more so in the past?
They also know the stellaron hunters have a plan they need the express for
runic ether
right thats normal is what im saying
but their reaction to past sh vs firefly has been different
and it hurts her character
long tree
Because after their last run in they know the stellaron hunters aren't actively causing harm?
runic ether
they still acted hostile to wolf and sam before the firefly reveal
idle grove
the only in game explanation I could probably give this time is like
copper steppe
what are the stellaron hunters even doing
idle grove
since tb was so friendly with firefly before the reveal, the express is kind of not giving her the same treatment for the tb's sake
copper steppe
they just appear and dip on random periods of time
idle grove
what are the stellaron hunters even doing
hunting stellarons
runic ether
they hunt and detonate stellarons to force the universe into the only good ending
ie the dr strange thing where he saw infinite timelines and only 1 was victory
thats their goal
so they are out and about as terrorists effectively setting off nukes sometimes in planets/star systems to force the hand of different factions to fall under or in line with the trailblaze
copper steppe
isn’t star rail a story about defying fate
long tree
But they're in a dream and firefly honestly does nothing until the trailblazers already have gotten a group together of people they should trust less
runic ether
since tb was so friendly with firefly before the reveal, the express is kind of ...
i would almost feel that way but sunday or robin not being in panic about her also doesnt help
they are all about protecting penacony
and now a walking nuke stellaron hunter known for burning all life away is in your town
long tree
Trailblazer is also a nuke and no one cares
No one who knows at least
Welt is a nuke
copper steppe
aren’t several people aware of the fact the trailblazer is a living nuke
long tree
Welt is arguably worse in fact
idle grove
yeah but in hsr there is no history of them being active terrorists using that nuke
but guess what the stellaron hunters are
long tree
yeah but in hsr there is no history of them being active terrorists using that n...
There's record of the trailblazer almost detonating
idle grove
missing my point
SAM's whole deal is like.. they run around and blow shit up and have their own wanted poster etc
long tree
What would you be more scared of, a nuke with purpose or one without? Trick question
idle grove
I would be more scared of one with an intention of using it constantly, yes
long tree
They should both be met with fear
And you wouldn't of the one that can go off randomly?
copper steppe
well i guess every nuke is in fact a bad nuke
idle grove
tb and SAM right now is like being scared of nuclear energy vs being scared of a nuke
runic ether
correct but only aventurine knew of tb having a stellaron within
copper steppe
wasn’t sunday also aware of it
runic ether
and sam is an active terrorist threat that was already being searched for
long tree
I do agree that firefly should've probably been treated with more scrutiny but I figure the same should be said with most of the strong characters in star rail
So I just do not mind
runic ether
sure and we know welt snuck his black hole into penacony
so they wouldnt know
and they were also actively trying to get acheron out
copper steppe
i only know welt has a black hole shoved up his ass or something but i don’t know honkai lore
long tree
sure and we know welt snuck his black hole into penacony
Letting himeko in the parking lot was a declaration that they should just be welcomed tbh
copper steppe
how does it work
runic ether
not how it works
welt isnt a super public well-known figure
nor is his combat style
long tree
Nah I'm not arguing with you on this
runic ether
his cane hides his weapon and he mentions they did not check it at all because they were unaware
long tree
I'm saying if they were gonna have an issue with welt, they likely were going to have one with "engineers weapons of mass destruction because she likes them" himeko
So it makes sense he got a pass even with the risk he'd sneak the staff
runic ether
himeko's orbital weapon was likely cleared by the family since its way less dangerous than a black hole
long tree
I mean fair
runic ether
we know the family wanted acheron out and was hunting sam
long tree
i only know welt has a black hole shoved up his ass or something but i don’t kno...
You want the elaborate version or the short one?
runic ether
their sudden indifference makes no sense unless they dont feel odd about her identity which further hurts her character arc
"i just want to be a normal girl" and everyone basically went "yeah sure no problem"
copper steppe
give me it in a nutshell
long tree
Considering the family no longer really matters to their plan after her identity was known and most of the group was shifting to being hostile towards Sunday, at worst they've got a temporary new ally
runic ether
they were talking to her with sunday without him being an antagonist directly
no one not sunday nor robin nor anyone else was against each other
long tree
They were also talking to Gallagher
runic ether
who they all thought for a sec was the enemy
long tree
If they did I don't remember it but I'll take your word
But believing him period was not a smart move from an objective point knowing what they knew
runic ether
they all talked to gallagher who had went out of his way to get sunday to talk to them
no one in the astral express had any reason to suspect sunday
but sunday nor robin had any reason to trust a stellaron hunter
long tree
give me it in a nutshell
His staff is an old relic from when he was a herscher in honkai impact third, it can generate black holes.
runic ether
heralds of disaster for planets they come across
copper steppe
herrscher are like gods right
long tree
They're beings embodying a concept powered by a core that needs to be powered with honkai energy
Since star rail doesn't have or is very light on honkai energy, welts core is losing power
So he's weaker, but he's still got a bit of juice left
runic ether
in terms of power:
aeons > emanators > herrshers > pathstriders
long tree
It's also worth noting welt was the weakest herscher, he made up for that with his smarts though
Cores can also be transferred so if he wanted to welt could give his to someone else but I doubt he would
copper steppe
i guess i understand
glossy latch
in terms of power:
aeons > emanators > herrshers > pathstriders
I am pretty sure Herrschers are above Emanators
runic ether
it was stated otherwise by hoyo iirc
at least average emanator > most herrshers
maybe origin and finality get a leg up
long tree
The feats most herschers show aren't on the level of Acherons single sword slash iirc
runic ether
bc hoyo will never not glaze their favorites
kiana is their 1st child
so my bets is that the aeon of finality is a kiana
runic ether
Cores can also be transferred so if he wanted to welt could give his to someone ...
that said its worth remembering that bronya did become his successor as herrscher of reason
so she has the core
long tree
Nah he got it back we just don't know when
Makes sense cause bronya is using a different core as of the end of hi3
She's the herscher of truth
runic ether
i forgot about that actually lol
summer hornet
runic ether
i havent played hi3rd so i havent followed every last lore of it
long tree
I only have bits and pieces
Fun fact: the core of reasons power isn't just gravity manipulation, it's construction, the ability to make whatever you understand. Since welt doesn't have any honkai energy to work with he's just been using his key though
runic ether
deconstructs and reconstructs whatever u understans
tbh it was perfect for big nerds like welt and bronya
long tree
The reason he gave it to bronya is she can just use it better than he could iirc
Cause she's bigger brain
long tree
Spent some time to actually get some of my Genshin characters to level 80
Genshin respawn timers suck
runic ether
lol
u could have waited for 4.8
they are removing the timer
just need to reload the area
long tree
…fuuuuuuck
glossy latch
glossy latch
We dont know
glossy latch
But theres more and more circumstantial evidence pointing to it
runic ether
if level 100 its not happening until at least 5.0
idle grove
is ruan mei rerun on tuesday?
runic ether
the points against it is how irrelevant it would be for most attack scalers and hp scalers
runic ether
is ruan mei rerun on tuesday?
i believe wednesday for eu
idle grove
awesome
glossy latch
Wednesday yes
glossy latch
the points against it is how irrelevant it would be for most attack scalers and ...
I mean the exact implementation is unknown, could be were getting a third passive (like in star rail) or smthg
runic ether
3rd passive would be the point for it yea
but it'd need to be a hell of a passive for some characters to even wanna unlock it
dull bridge
the points against it is how irrelevant it would be for most attack scalers and ...
and also just how insanely resource intensive it would be right?
unless they make 90-100 a special resource
dull bridge
it could be cool if they had a new resource for 90-100, or at least cool in my eyes idk if it would be cool to everyone
runic ether
it'd make no sense
dull bridge
it would be cool!
mental acorn
huh that was fast
mfw when the 5* is easier to m3 mod3 than the 6*
versed pawn
Midriffers rechoice
long tree
Shame she's not great
versed pawn
I still like playing her tho
But if build well u can solo all hologram 6 bosses with her allready except Mephis
All that matters to me is that she cute 
runic ether
i really enjoyed this new abyss
from what i see a ton of teams are viable
double hydro or double electro are the only requirement for 2nd half thats p much it
long tree
glossy latch
Cmon man
idle grove
Twitter
late canopy
Got my Clorinde abyss!
Got the hang of her playstyle too in the middle of it and she can do quite a good bit under the right circumstances
She plays like Cyno but at 5x speed
runic ether
i did it with raiden and arle first but i see why and where she would be viable too
late canopy
She's definitely more than adequate for first half's lineup
Best pick for second half off the top of my head would probably be something like a Neuvi team even moreso than he usually is cuz of his aoe and hydro being really nice there
late canopy
Ya I just neglected to pick Neuvi for the fun of it
Clorinde very fun to play
People in call with me were asking why I kept mashing my keyboard and mouse so hard lol
runic ether
lol
glossy latch
Oh hold up
I got a Dendro goblet for Gilded Dreams with almost perfect substats
Hopefully it rolls well
runic ether
runic ether
2x crit?
runic ether
oof
but thats fine usually
on set dendro goblet is usable
did it have er?
or atk%?
both are useful on haitham
glossy latch
Yeah
versed pawn
nice thing Kuro announced Vanguard coming into WuWa
idle grove
that's not a nice thing
slow raft
finally actually finished canto 6
mental acorn
tagless recruit jumpscare
summer hornet
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/1dg8t9l/super_democratic_glamoth_empire_propaganda/
simple wind
Oh my god Cygames rereleased their anniversary animation thingy but with all the Dragalia lost characters edited out of it
summer hornet
Bruh
simple wind
Dragalia fans can’t have shit
long tree
Oh my god Cygames rereleased their anniversary animation thingy but with all the...
Contract with Nintendo expired
(I’m assuming at least)
simple wind
That’s almost certainly what happened but it also implies Nintendo owns all the characters
simple wind
My baby girl Johanna too
simple wind
Meanwhile one of the fan servers is trying to rebalance Curse or nihility so it doesn’t render like 80% of the roster unusable
long tree
I praise the effort
simple wind
Perfection
simple wind
I praise the effort
One of the attempts involved an attack rate debuff soooo
simple wind
Still mad her storyline never resolved
long tree
Never got to see more of the best dads
simple wind
They basically got background appearances in the last event that had anything to do with Lathna and Akasha
summer hornet
I finally understand
I don't love Firefly, I love Sam
and Firefly doesn't love Sam
I'm still aiming for e2 tho
runic ether
yeahhhhh thats been my entire problem
idm her being like a samus clone
and eva clone
i like both of those things in theory
but her struggles havent matched up to her words really
and she really does not like being sam
and then they absolutely made firefly just a tb love interest
she was ayaka'd in real time
we basically all got to watch that any of the truly interesting bits of her character will basically not be explored
summer hornet
They put a lot of stuff in her pot, and the stuff that, well... isn't as interesting or appealing for me, personally... that won out
The whole CN girlfriend video thing just makes it worse
runic ether
literally the exact same thing happened to ayaka in genshin
hoyo (wisely) recognized that for the vast majority of players, they were never pulling a flaming mech knight
and firefly was cooked alongside sam
and then they also remembered that ayaka made them a lot of money
summer hornet
hoyo (wisely) recognized that for the vast majority of players, they were never ...
cowards smgdh
runic ether
i have hopes for zzz lycaon sells well in his banner
telling hoyo that it'll be okay if they go for out there designs if they are marketed well
lycaon is not even that out there
but way more out there compared to genshin and hsr designs
runic ether
which is fair
but thats
good
it tells hoyo that there is money in more than just the weebs that are going to be head over heels over firefly but not sam
some of the current girl designs in zzz are just not super interesting
but again, i hope they are going to go deeper
summer hornet
yeah, a good point
The Nasu interview said that they tailor their expectations accordingly based on character... but they still haven't gone super far beyond with the characters
And to be clear, I don't hate Firefly. Far from it
but I wish we got more of the mecha and the flame. We only really see it when Firefly is staring down Sampo and Gallagher
runic ether
and briefly with sleepy
she was considering activating sam there
i already ranted too but ppl dont react to her how they should as well
which lessens the impact
if she struggled a lot to act normal bc of her training
that'd have been great and would have made her attitude make more sense too
if ppl didnt treat her like a person, or reacted negatively to her being there, or if she was just kind of a psycho in her own way
and for being such a loose cannon destroy the house/burn the planet type person she was described as, she really hasnt showcased that at all
copper steppe
will still roll because i think shes cute
runic ether
telling kafka to stop playing with her food is rich considering she never even tried to fight off the death meme when initially caught and her approach throughout penacony has been so passive
copper steppe
summer hornet
she's the first "cute girl" 5* we've gotten so far tbf, no?
like March, Sushang, Guinafen are all 4*
copper steppe
indeed, im a very superficial man
copper steppe
she's the first "cute girl" 5* we've gotten so far tbf, no?
i guess so
i guess you can classify her as a deredere of sorts
runic ether
she's the first "cute girl" 5* we've gotten so far tbf, no?
sparkle ig?
but sparkle was allowed to be racist and homophobic
samfly wasnt allowed to be a sociopath murderer 😔
copper steppe
is sparkle a literal landmine girl
runic ether
not just a landmine, a walking red flag too
summer hornet
sparkle is not a deredere in that sense lmao
runic ether
idk what deredere means
summer hornet
it's kinda malleable but generally sweet and energetic. Positive energy, upbeat, kinda deal
runic ether
ah then yeah firefly is the 1st 5 star we have thats like that
mystic python
Does Robin not fit under that?
mystic python
Anyway on the Firefly end of things, I really liked the duality between cute girl and killing machine, but the infinite shipping of her with the player soured the character for me a decent bit
runic ether
yeah
i also dont like that she's barely been allowed to be a killing machine too
shes just been firefly
mystic python
They showed off a bit of combat experience and there was the fight in 2.0 but yea, things have moved pretty far away from that recently
Maybe 2.3 story will bring things closer to a balance again
Altho I can also get that she doesn't want to be known as Sam anymore really
runic ether
yeah for sure
but that feels like they threw away her most interesting character point for a lot of ppl
summer hornet
Anyway on the Firefly end of things, I really liked the duality between cute gir...
that's about where I am
and tbf we've been in the Dreamscape this whole time
maybe that has an effect on the Sam/Firefly balance (but I doubt it)
runic ether
its likely not happening for another few patches
ayaka wasnt allowed to be interesting as a character until recently more or less
and she came out at the tail end of 1.x patches in genshin
copper steppe
her character arc is pretty understandable
she wishes to be someone other than a suit of armor
could be elaborated more tbh
and i supose her development isn’t even finished yet
runic ether
maybe if we had known her as sam for a lot longer, this would be fine development here
copper steppe
i reckon thats the problem, we don’t see her develop as a character in game
or too much of her story happens off-screen
summer hornet
Just have to wait and see for 2.3
runic ether
you go girl give us nothing
cool fume ultra greatsword tho
good fucking lord
@summer hornet
u will likely appreciate this man
you go girl give us absolutely nothing
versed pawn
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1dihuqt/hsr_24_yunli_anim...
Okay did they just make Clara but better
runic ether
mhm
tho tbf it wasnt very hard to do so
and having clara cons will beat out e0 yunli
also her lc is going to be absurd for clara
long tree
Don Quixote’s first amazing id??
slow raft
don already has 5 of these, nice try tho
long tree
Isn’t their best id like cleanup agent?
slow raft
middle little sister, blade lineage, lantern and cinq are all p good
slow raft
but that feels like they threw away her most interesting character point for a l...
So true btw, i have 0 interest in firefly rn in terms of how they handle her in story
Might still roll for her cause sam is cool but like
What a disappointment
long tree
Personally I’m gonna let em cook
Haven’t seen the last of her yet so gonna reserve judgement
summer hornet
Again, I still like her even with the dissonance
But instead of top 1, I'd put Sam below Aventurine and Firefly even with Argenti
long tree
Argenti is the epitome of “I love you but would never pull for you”
long tree
Artist is Yukio_Jade
long tree
boring kit?
Pretty much
torn harbor
fair
long tree
Does nothing I don’t have other people for
slow raft
Twitter
long tree
Reminder that hsr banners end in 44 mins
Also damn arknights went hard for candle knight
slow raft
Again, I still like her even with the dissonance
Theres not really any dissonance for me, its just that the character turned out way lamer than i thought
long tree
Idk what that means but yay
slow raft
Twitter
summer hornet
LMAO
I saw some comments saying he was like male Yae (from Genshin)
But I forgot about the real OG
copper steppe
successor of the nff services
astral drift
fox love
idle grove
long tree
Firefly soon y'all set your death watches
idle grove
oh speaking of firefly again
I loved the new cinematic
until it turned into tb dating sim
summer hornet
Rewatches have given me more appreciation for the dualism
but it’s still not the same
The way it starts with a Nevermore remix before changing into something uplifting and hopeful for the OST
idle grove
I like how she's portrayed as determined to live for herself and make the most out of her life despite her circumstances
and then they just turn her into a ship character
summer hornet
They’d still make solid bank off a Sam model kit
versed pawn
Smh I can only pull when I'm back home
idle grove
oh yeah I'd buy a SAM kit lmao
runic ether
love sam, not a fan of firefly atm
glossy latch
I dont even think her romance with TB is neccessarily an issue
runic ether
hopefully 2.3 saves it
glossy latch
Its just too much of her character
runic ether
yea
summer hornet
Aye
runic ether
tho i have also personally detailed how weak they have written her in plenty of spots
copper steppe
she kinda resembles aigis as her development is also conected to the protagonist
idle grove
Its just too much of her character
solid agree
it feels like in every piece of material they can get away with they're forcing the ship
glossy latch
Aigis works because its a slow burn in a long RPG, with Firefly it was pretty much immediately in a much shorter time
idle grove
although I would have liked if the serious SAM persona was all the time, but I guess blade fills this niche
summer hornet
I made the mistake of driving by the r/Firefly subreddit, where they were like “oh my gosh Hoyo is committing to a ship for once!”
copper steppe
that is also true lol
summer hornet
“It’s even better than Ayaka!”
glossy latch
although I would have liked if the serious SAM persona was all the time, but I g...
That one I would disagree with because I think the dichotomy is the part that works
idle grove
yeah it's not a strong criticism I have
just a personal opinion
I like the dichotomy too because it makes for a more interesting character
copper steppe
its a major flaw in gacha, as normal rpgs have a conclusion to a character, gacha characters don’t really have one due to the nature of being a gacha
as they need to milk a character as much as possible
long tree
Counter point, castoria (summonable)
summer hornet
But they explicitly point out that they’ve already reached the ends of their character journeys
Summoning is just a victory lap
long tree
Just because they've finished their main journey doesn't mean there aren't more adventures
What noble means is there isn't a "the end"
glossy latch
its a major flaw in gacha, as normal rpgs have a conclusion to a character, gach...
Eh not really?
copper steppe
Fair enough, but fgo escapes this due to the people there already at the end of their journey
glossy latch
You can have a conclusion of a character and still use said character
long tree
There's always going to be more
idle grove
story castoria definitely has a whole arc with a conclusion lol
glossy latch
Rean Schwarzer has been in 5 games now and his story concluded like 3 times lmao
idle grove
fgo summonable characters most of the time aren't the characters from the story per se