#Gacha Chat

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dull bridge
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||is there anything i can prefarm for imaginary trailblazer like artifact or smt?||

late canopy
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I'm out of town right now so this is the first abyss I've cleared on mobile

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PC controls are so much better

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I take the most broken teams I have and mobile controls make me feel like my account has gone back in strength by two years

runic ether
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lmao

mental acorn
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the bloop

old galleon
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try to join a celeste raid at 3 am jst
only host in there
click to join the raid
"this raid battle is full, you can't participate"

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never change

dull bridge
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it's so cheese

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I kinda wanna try an elation run but i don't have topaz or ratio

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aventurine is really fricking fun with preservation

torn harbor
dull bridge
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yeah

long tree
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Apparently honkai isn’t 50/50, it’s 55/45

copper steppe
long tree
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The IPC after being told not to throw shit at people (the chalk has left a meteor sized crater in penacony)

torn harbor
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"random bullshit go!"

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is topaz's gun an energy pistol or a repurposed barcode reader?

long tree
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I have a feeling it’s just an energy pistol because I can’t imagine topaz working inventory herself

torn harbor
long tree
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It could also be some type of value estimator (reads out material composition of an object and gives an estimate of value, possibly able to determine value based on historical/artistic value too)

chrome pilot
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"Ships keep the game alive"

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Also, this controversy is much smaller than the Genshin anniv, even considering the death threats and harrasment to VAs/other people in general and such.

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And is a million times better than the Honkai Failed Assassination Incident.

long tree
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The strange thing is this is absolutely not an issue

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You're just not allowed to say your ships are more important than others/canon

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Like what's the issue here

chrome pilot
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The issue was the harrasment before hand.

old galleon
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the person who tweeted this on x apparently doesn't know that the hsr subreddit isn't run by hoyo

slow raft
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^

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i was about to ask this

chrome pilot
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People were just getting too toxic, even 2 of my friends who don't play HSR got hit with strays of kys.

slow raft
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whats the controversy even

chrome pilot
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It's not run by them, but people think they do, because just like Genshin Hoyo calls it the official one, and has an account as mod there, but that's mostly a ceremonial thing.

old galleon
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technically, hoyo having a mod account there (and in genshin) runs afoul of reddit tos last i checked

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but i don't think anyone cares about that lol

chrome pilot
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Some guy thirsted over a female char, called her most fuckable or smthg maybe?, got harrasment because that char was lesbian (in headcanon/coded/or smthg) and we must kill him.

long tree
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And that was on twitter

chrome pilot
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I see, I see.

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Also, it's not just a one time thing.

old galleon
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my hot take is that they should just keep up a strict anti-harassment policy instead of just outlawing shipping discussion, but that's just me

chrome pilot
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Shipping arguments have been going on for so long, and even back when Genshin was everywhere.

old galleon
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harassment isn't unique to shipping

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and a community that big is gonna have a bunch of it

long tree
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I think the issue was that some ratio aventurine stuff was being taken down as people were calling it canon as hoyo has endorsed some spicy tiktoks of them

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And it was causing arguments

old galleon
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if people are calling certain non-canon things canon, they could remove that for misinformation

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again, not unique to shipping

chrome pilot
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I think, it's just them trying to pre emptive over going thru multiple comment chains of so and so has a wife or hugged a man flashback. I don't think those would necessitate being considered harrasment, but they still want to get rid of them.

old galleon
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i'm not even a shipper myself but i don't think shipping stuff is inherently problematic

chrome pilot
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Tho, I'd rather they keep people screaming at each other over overcorrecting and just shut out convos.

slow raft
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read up a bit and wow, this tectone character seems like a bad person
i though he was just terrible at video games

chrome pilot
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He plays games?

slow raft
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idk why people are giving him attention tho, thats obviously his goal

chrome pilot
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I just thought he rolled in gachas, and made reaction content.

long tree
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Tectone is just kinda a shit stirrer

old galleon
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tectone's been around a while, basically yeah, a shit stirrer

long tree
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He'll say whatever gets him views

slow raft
old galleon
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i first saw him playing either azur lane or arknights (probably both) before he transitioned to genshin

chrome pilot
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Anyway, I just wanted to laugh at the whole Ships keep the game alive bit.

runic ether
long tree
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He's been dumping on genshin forever and then went back to it, and when asked went "it's all I have"

long tree
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Like damn

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That's said

chrome pilot
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Also, Genshin players throwing shade like they didn't have multiple worse controversies.

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icant

chrome pilot
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Still tho, people discovering the original Hoyo controversy in the failed assassination incident is always funny.

slow raft
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i looked through his twitter account and its just

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kinda sad

runic ether
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but if that wasnt this issue lmao

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lol

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the hsr sub is a dumpster fire regardless

chrome pilot
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I see, I see.

runic ether
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u cannot go like 3 posts without seeing sparkle feet or firefly/x girl in a bikini

old galleon
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honkai: star rail? more like horny: star railed

long tree
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It has out buddy'd the buddy reddit

chrome pilot
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Tbf, that's the same with the Genshin reddit last when I played.

runic ether
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but gay ship posts often get shat on or in the aventurine case deleted

chrome pilot
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Only really useful for grabbing any stream info/codes and nothing else.

long tree
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Genshin knuckled down on a lot of the horny posts iirc

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There are still some but not as bad as it was

runic ether
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genshin sub also sucks but it is ran by hoyo so the overt horny is dead

old galleon
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lurking info/help threads to learn shit

chrome pilot
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I think there's also this big issue in reddit where the more people there are on a sub, the more bad posts are on the front page.

runic ether
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absolutely

chrome pilot
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You really need to dig into the niche hobby subreddit with like 200 peeps to get detailed and well informed posts.

old galleon
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which might not be as bad if the sub's mod team handled it consistently, but when either the mods are busy or inactive, or the mods themselves endorse the bad posts

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esp on a sub as big as that

copper steppe
old galleon
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it is over

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turns out 2 guns was the play after all

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sounding a lot like musashi, bro

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the fruit of my labor

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Grand Crystalloid Lavog Setup

  • Torso: Assault Radar Omega
  • Arms: Obliterend Buster Omega
  • Head: Block Jammer Omega

Torso Skills: Physicus Down, Giga-Boost, Antidivine
Arms Skills: God Rays, Giga-Mana Drain, Gran Breaker Omega
Head Skills: Ultima Heal, Giga-Power Fall (may need to use the revive occasionally, but prioritize Power Fall)

Always make sure Power Fall is applying, arms usually use God Rays and Gran Breaker, Mana Drain in case you need the MP later on, torso rotates between Physicus Down and Giga-Boost, with Antidivine in case you need it to remove buffs later in the fight; Destruction was used on I think the third hp bar to buy some time

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posting the strat for posterity since this fight got a lot harder after the changes to non-type magic

versed pawn
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i mean tectones says to like 90% of the characters that they are bangable thats nothing new people just got upset because they dont like that people have other headcannons and insisted to shove it down everyones throat as the absolute truth that happens on like every character

runic ether
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theres a lot of gay ships but its not outweighing straight ships

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ie: traveler x ayaka or childe x lumine

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firefly x caelus is also about 80% of firefly art

old galleon
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i like how even after i upgraded his weapon, cyrus still sucks

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got aldo with no bearers outdamaging cyrus with max support

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i don't think it's a matter of light either, even at 255 cyrus would likely still be badly outmatched

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unless that light scaling non-type attack buff is that big

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gonna test him with the elpis dagger

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nope, still sucks

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the difference is night and day

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turn 2, cyrus is doing like 100m with his nuke

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turn 2, same setup, aldo's hitting the 2.14b damage cap

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(on the dummy, mind you)

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this is what i used for epsilon last night

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the idea is just to make eva the main dps by changing her to thunder element with necoco

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and the fight wants you to use af to win, and thunder is the best af element, so

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and epsilon wants you to hit it with thunder anyway

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so everything lines up

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that's as opposed to the other lavog fights where it's pretty hard to af due to them draining your bar every turn, but a one size fits all comp using aldo or benedict as the attacker can work

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(i used aldo bc of course i did)

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on that note, imma go test benedict real fast

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got him to 902m turn 2

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a lot worse than aldo still, but that's fine

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902m is actually a usable number

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the difference between benedict and aldo is that benedict can use the mujima weapon instead of needing an elpis

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this results in lower damage on earlier turn counts

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but it has a progression effect on it

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(progression's a gbf skill where you get more omega or optimus atk the longer a fight goes)

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with the elpis axe, benedict hits the 2.14b cap

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so yeah

glossy latch
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I was promised Svarog 😔

honest pawn
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LMAOOOOOOO THEY BUFFED THE BEST ID IN THE GAME

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WAIT

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THEY MADE HIS PASSIVE OWNED

glossy latch
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@runic ether how big of a difference is talent level 8 to 10 on Arle?

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On her NA

runic ether
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iirc 20

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%

glossy latch
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Damn thats a lot huh

runic ether
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9 -> 10 is 12% iirc

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so 8 -> 9 is 8%

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but na 10 is super important

glossy latch
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Gotcha

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I can probably get her ascended to level 90 tomorrow but I cant farm the material til saturday

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Also there is something macabre about having to kill Fatui agents to level Arle

runic ether
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true lol

glossy latch
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Anyway once thats all done I think Ill have

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80% cr to 120% CD

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Maybe like 123% CD

runic ether
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nice

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having a nice base crit rate will make upgrading cdmg way easier

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also

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atk goblet is not bad on her

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if you find a cracked atk goblet, consider it

glossy latch
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Ill have to see, but this is on a full glads set

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I wanted to do 2/2 but I had 3 good Glad pieces >.>

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And a good pyro damage goblet

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9.3% CR 6.2% CD goblet

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Low on the CD side but 10% CR is nice

runic ether
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yeah not bad

glossy latch
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If I switch to a Crit Damage circlet I can get 179% CD but only 55% CR

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Doesnt seem worth it

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.... are circlets the rarest option out of strongboxes or what?

runic ether
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not particularly

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em is rarer

glossy latch
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This is gonna take a while lmao

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I need to find a glads crit rate circlet

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And hope for good substats

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Unless I just switch to the new set alltogether

runic ether
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if u dont have a good glad, just farm the new set

glossy latch
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I mostly do its just the circlet thats mid

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Crit rate but no crit damage substat

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But Ill probably go for the new set anyway eventually™️

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She seems to do a lot of damage as is tho lmao

runic ether
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yeah

honest pawn
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WHAT

glossy latch
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God looking at solo Arle Abyss showcases some people just have cracked artifacts huh

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What do you mean 240% crit damage

runic ether
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wym wym

glossy latch
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How do you get such high stats

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I thought my artifacts were decent and Im like nowhere near that

runic ether
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similar

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you do it through high cv pieces

glossy latch
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Do you just hope every single roll lands on the crit stats?

runic ether
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yes

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i personally dont roll pieces much at all anymore if they dont have 2x crit lines

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and if they fail to roll crit once, if it wasnt a 4 line piece, i just fodder it

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also my keqing is on 216 cv so shes not actually my highest cv character

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she just looks particularly nice bc of lofi

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my highest cv is beidou

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who has exactly 6 dead rolls

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note: this is completely unnecessary

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my beidou isnt doing that much more damage to when i had her at 60:100

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or when i got her to 70:100

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shes been clearing abyss since before she had these stats

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similarly, my arle has like 30 less cv than beidou or keqing and clears better than them

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strength is relative

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and some abyss cycles favor beidou

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some abyss cycles favor arle

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and eventually, some abyss cycles wont and its good to have a variety of decently built characters before going all in on one

glossy latch
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I see

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Tbh just wanna try solo Arle lmao

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And Im not sure my stats are enough

runic ether
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post your stats

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actually

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a character full clearing solo also depends on the other side of abyss

glossy latch
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Sec

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(Pre-ascension 6, so add 10% to the CD)

runic ether
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looks fine but yeah u will likely struggle to solo specifically for this abyss floor 12

glossy latch
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Not too surprised

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Hold on you said a good ATK% goblet on Arle could be good ye?

runic ether
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yup

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since she has a lot of dmg% bonuses

glossy latch
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I have one that might be good

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It comes down to the last 2 rolls

runic ether
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🙏

glossy latch
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Ok if I land one more roll on CV I will have landed all of them o.0

runic ether
glossy latch
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Last one missed, dang

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Ok so, current one is Pyro damage, 9.3% crit rate, 6.2% crit damage

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New one would be ATK, 10.1% crit rate, 14.8% crit damage

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Worth switching you think?

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Would also let me have more choice with the circlet

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Would be 81.1% crit rate, 132% crit damage pre Ascension 6

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... hm I tried testing it and it seems to be roughly the same?

runic ether
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thats

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actually so much stronger

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thats 35 crit value atk goblet

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thats pretty insane

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i think its worth the switch since it should be more damage in a proper rotation with scaling

glossy latch
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Well solo Arle it seemed to be roughly the same

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... it would probably get stronger in an actual team tho

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I think Chev gives a damage boost doesnt she

runic ether
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yes

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wait actually

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no chev is at 40k hp, 40% atk

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and her other passive shreds electro and pyro res by 40%

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any time overload is triggered

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bennett + chevreuse + arle's own passive increases

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it should be roughly on par but the additional crit rate and cdmg will be better overall

glossy latch
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Gotcha

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Ill keep it for now and look for a better circlet I suppose

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Are glad pieces the one world bosses drop?

runic ether
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yup

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its not worth strongboxing glad

glossy latch
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Eh I did it for a bit to see if I got something better, but nope

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Idk what else to strongbox rn since most of the sets I need dont have one yet

runic ether
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emblem

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its always emblem

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well

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okay

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strongboxing to get 1 or 2 noblesse oblige sets

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and 1-2 viridescent sets

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is also fine

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but then afterwards, just strongbox emblem

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the amount of characters who use it as their best set is kinda crazy for the value

long tree
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get infinite fonta
Oh boy I can't wait to be able to have a infinite healing source
It heals 1hp

runic ether
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xingqiu and xiangling alone are alone worth it

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but theres also kaeya, rosaria

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beidou

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candace

long tree
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I need to set aside some time for artifact grinding each day because I need to get past having "acceptable" relics and move into actually good ones

runic ether
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sara

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razor in some teams

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some thoma teams too

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chongyun

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among 5 stars, raiden and yelan

long tree
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How valuable is jinglius E1

glossy latch
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Massively increases single target damage iirc

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Its like +40% on one target +7% on multiple

long tree
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Noice

astral drift
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From 10m fp

long tree
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Zero clue if they're good but I'll take em

honest pawn
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they're very mediocre, they had to hotfix buff him

copper steppe
honest pawn
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but really if you give his skills a read once you uptie him you can probably determine how good he is

honest pawn
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I drew magic bullet outis as a good luck charm

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it didn't work but

summer hornet
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old galleon
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aka honkai: blue archive

runic ether
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could care less about robin's backstory ngl

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just have her interact a lot with boothill so we can have the hsr barbenheimer

summer hornet
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I appreciate them not dodging the darkness inherently tied to her career

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... And the timing is almost too good NGL

runic ether
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aint no way robin boutta hop on to diss drake too 😭

summer hornet
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

old galleon
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is she an idol or something?

runic ether
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shes a singer

summer hornet
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Technically just a pop star, but there's some overlap

old galleon
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by which you mean there's a lot

runic ether
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also swift dropped an album few days ago

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and it started topping all the charts like crazy

old galleon
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as she is wont to do

summer hornet
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Yearly chart conquest

runic ether
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this one is particularly crazy

old galleon
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yeah i heard

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14 of the top 14 slots lmao

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or something like that

runic ether
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lot of stuff happening in the music sphere

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k dot took drake's n word pass, everyone hopped on to diss him prior, swift dropped likely her magnum opus album

old galleon
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what did drake do anyway

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i'm way out of the loop on that

runic ether
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nothing

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ppl were just tired of him

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aight okay technically

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drake fucked metro boomin's girl at some point in the past and metro has been hardcore hating him for a while

summer hornet
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Wasn't he being homophobic

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Oh

runic ether
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not too long ago he dropped an album w future

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and they brought kendrick in for a song

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and kendrick took a shot at drake and cole for a song they dropped last year

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where they called themselves the big 3 (kendrick, drake, and cole) and he corrected them its just big him

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(kendrick)

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drake, like with the control verse 12 years ago, took it personally

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j cole also responded but then took down his own diss and apologized

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but after that p much everyone started hopping on to hate on drake

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1 part cus kendrick has that much influence

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another cus metro is good friends w p much everyone

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and lastly cus a lot of ppl are tired of him being so corny all the time and acting so tough

old galleon
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my hot take is that most people in that sphere come off like they're acting tough

runic ether
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like 2 weeks ago, drake dropped a diss addressing most everyone but mostly at kendrick

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and like 4 days ago, kendrick dropped a 6 minute long diss where he just outright yanked the n word out of drake

runic ether
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even then

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we got cases like ynw melly who killed 2 of his friends

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just because

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we know birdman a killer in the past

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tons of ppl from the hip hop space have been on some serious criminal activities

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drake def not

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but a lot of ppl in the rap and hip hop sphere have been and continue to engage in that hard life

summer hornet
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Gracious

runic ether
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got ppl around my neighborhood rn chanting "we dont wanna hear u say n* no more" at night still

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drake is so cooked unless his response is as good

summer hornet
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Well now I know I guess

summer hornet
old galleon
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just 3 turned warped kelkale with the ol' iphi/claude es/myunfa ac/aldo setup

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really just those four and yipha as are enough to do a lot of these superbosses

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.....apparently i already did this at some point bc i didn't get chronos for it

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i don't remember beating kelkale, though

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i only remember beating mysterious chaos ogre and possibly gaishin

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yeah i got nothing out of gaishin either

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so then i guess that leaves alma eterna, reborn life, deus cras, and final calamity

old galleon
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took care of final calamity first

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this one encourages you to use sesta

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so i did

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that also got me the tvc grasta for noaxhis as, for whatever that's worth

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probably not doing the other ones tonight

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i can probably take care of alma eterna handily enough if i put m ymind to it

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but reborn life and deus cras are up there with dawn tower master and ice fields master in difficulty

late canopy
old galleon
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went ahead and did alma eterna

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75% freebie frontline too, bc i wanted to make use of stellar burst for something

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party was cyrus octopath traveler, tithi, necoco as, aldo

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with some bearers in the back

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so uhhhh you can't do anything with non-elemental in this fight since it absorbs all attack types by default

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making necoco as mandatory for this comp since i'm only using one dps and he is mainly non-elemental

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cyrus sets thunder zone and fire zone so i have elements to hit it with, and it's pretty straightforward from there

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also in a bit of unorthodox gearing, i had to halve aldo's speed

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(yes, speed tuning is a concept in this game too)

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anyway, don't have to worry about that ever again

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now i just have to go kill some freaky alien cabbage and deus x but staticky and i'll be done with these

idle grove
old galleon
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based lack at it again

slow raft
honest pawn
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Ideal.

dull bridge
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holy

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this SLAPS

runic ether
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unsure if this has been pointed out but the uncredited voice in arlecchino's teaser may be hsr bronya's english va? since some ppl pointed out that the jp va is the same. unconfirmed about the chinese va

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also shes using a stage name so if she went uncredited its not particularly weird since no one knows who she actually is.

glossy latch
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Which teaser?

runic ether
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42 second mark

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if its true, we have some tsaritsa crumbs

late canopy
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Ye I heard people theorize that

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Things to keep in mind for later

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Ayato had a similar treatment

runic ether
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apparently in genshin's beta, childe was called bronya the tsaritsa's last soldier

late canopy
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In I think either thoma or ittos teaser trailer

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You heard him speak before ever knowing what he looked like

runic ether
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maybe we get another winter night's lazzo then?

late canopy
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Definitely can see it

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And it would be very welcome

runic ether
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is it weird id want the tsaritsa to use a rifle like bronya does

late canopy
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Nop

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That would be cool

mortal iron
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what team to use for this abyss

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i have issues clearing 12-2-2 in time coz of the abyss electro dudes

late canopy
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I used Arle and just kept hitting them with non stop pyro

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A little bit of positioning should make it so that they both walk into range of arles normals so you can hit both at once

runic ether
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ive been trying to arle solo my chokepoint isnt them its the baptist at the end since it has a pyro shield

late canopy
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Yeah you really want a hydro in there normally

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Along with a pyro

runic ether
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i think a solo would go better 1st half

mortal iron
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hmmmm i only have 1 good pyro character im comfortable with which is arle but i've used her on side 1

runic ether
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hyperbloom/burgeon also does well this abyss

mortal iron
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hmmmm

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so side 1 - alhaitham hboom
and side 2- arle team

runic ether
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either

mortal iron
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i tried arle side 1 and haitham side 2 but i still couldnt get the timing down

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takes me 80-90s with arle team in side 1

runic ether
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side 1 was faster for my arle teams as a whole personally

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what were you running?

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vv vape? 2x hydro? 2x geo?

mortal iron
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arle, xq, benny, zhongli

alhaitham, kuki, nahida, yelan

runic ether
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swap yelan and xq

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should be better overall

mortal iron
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i'll try it soon

runic ether
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haitham appreciates the ir

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zhongli should carry you without xq ir

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and yelan's hydro app is a bit more suited to arle

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tho the new meta for hydro with her is c6 candace

mortal iron
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now i wish i had c6 candace

runic ether
#

apparently she has significantly faster clear times than xq or yelan

#

with candace

#

candace's weird hydro app wins out

#

since it matches super close to arle

mortal iron
#

c2 candace pain

mystic python
#

Candace is nicer in aoe yea, altho Arle is just a super weird character in general when it comes to fast clears

#

To the point where her damage will beat out a lot of buffs when you consider the time those buffs take to set up

runic ether
#

indeed

#

the reason solo's are doable for me is that

#

i feel its rare that buffing a lot makes a big difference

mystic python
#

Kokomi makes you wait a bit but she does give TTDS over Candace's NA buff which is better if you stay within the 10s of TTDS

runic ether
#

it also adds a ton of value to run buffs like chevreuse

mystic python
#

Ye I watched an Arle speedrun where chamber 1 they didn't use XQ at all

#

It's just faster to kill without

mortal iron
#

Her rotations feels really weird coz of that

#

Im used to building up buffs

#

Shes front loaded but not in like a navia way

mystic python
#

It's def fine to do setups in normal gameplay, esp. if you're having issues it'll be better to have a good rotation going

#

Speedrunning is the opposite of normal gameplay

runic ether
#

ye

#

shes a lot of fun to play as a result cus she has a lot of room for skill expression

late canopy
#

I'm starting to entertain the possibility of going for her c2

#

Just like Hu Tao before her to give her all the comfy

runic ether
#

c1 u mean?

#

c2 is just raw damage

#

which i dont think she needs at all

late canopy
#

The quick bond of life absorb

#

For brain dead instant absorb for full benefit

runic ether
#

ah right

slow raft
#

got the mondstadt statues to max level

#

related question, is the progress tracking for regions in genshin accurate?

long tree
#

Mostly? Some collectable things don't count towards it I know that

mystic python
#

Err depends on region but they all have some fogiveness e.g. if it shows 100% there can still be more stuff

#

Old Mondstadt stuff you could still be missing 20% of chests and it'll show 100%, newer stuff I think is a bit more strict but you can still be missing a bunch

runic ether
#

:caught:

slow raft
#

Cant be assed to track this shit by hand

runic ether
#

they give us tools for it in-game but yea it can still be annoying for early game

#

thats also why a lot of ppl thought chests respawned in early genshin

#

bc as u ascend the world level, new chests/puzzles spawn, and theres a lot that can go unmarked

slow raft
#

Thought i was just blind KEKW

torn harbor
#

SO THAT'S WHY

#

):<

runic ether
#

spent time online also looking at chest locations and seeing nothing

slow raft
#

Btw, dragonspine is really cool so far

#

Feels kinda lile a dlc/seperate area since its mostly a selfcontained little story

runic ether
#

ye

slow raft
runic ether
#

each genshin region will have one of those more or less

#

they usually use the new area to drop some lore bombs and such

slow raft
#

Ive done the quest to raise the nail, so im just left with a bit of exploring

#

"A bit" clueless

runic ether
#

i only finished the tree in dragonspine like 4 months after i started lol those shits are hidden well

slow raft
#

When i unfroze the tree it took me some time to realize that they basically just added another kind of statue

runic ether
#

granted i did get more invested in the sumeru story so i did take a break from going deep into dragonspine

runic ether
slow raft
#

I sure do love collectables

#

I should prolly do the archon quest in liyue at some point, im like 6 levels past the unlock for that now

runic ether
#

liyue archon quest is at p decent. entertaining enough. exploring liyue is also quite fun (usually)

#

just make sure u stamina manage well lol

slow raft
#

Btw, someone in here said that the wind element catgirl (forgor her name) is super helpful for traversal and honestly

#

Goated advice

runic ether
#

lynette

#

yeah she can be great for exploration

slow raft
#

Im basically only traveling as her atm

runic ether
#

real

#

thats what i did when i got yelan

#

she has more or less the same skill in regards to overworld

slow raft
#

neat

#

yelan is the blue one people are horny for, right?

runic ether
#

gotta be specific

#

cus theres multiple blue ones ppl are horny for

#

but yes

slow raft
#

uhhh

#

i think i saw her in nya a few times?

runic ether
#

hmmmmm

slow raft
#

not the goat one the uh

slow raft
#

yeah thats the one i was thinking of

#

i wanted to say that she has the karen haircut but wasnt quite sure

runic ether
#

shes just a different flavored aventurine

slow raft
#

aventurine or qq?

runic ether
#

or ig aventurine is just a different flavored yelan?

#

aventurine

#

shes lucky and gambles like he does

slow raft
#

oh i was talking gameplay wise

runic ether
#

oh gameplay neither

slow raft
#

she feels more dps than tank

runic ether
#

shes a 5 star xingqiu

#

trading defense for offense

slow raft
#

oh hey that guy i remeber

#

i had him on my old account

#

with the water swords

runic ether
#

where xingqiu offers more hydro app, interruption resistance, and slight healing, she instead offers raw buffs and more consistent skill uptime

#

ya

#

xingqiu is the best character in the game for meta as a whole

#

but he has alternatives to play

slow raft
#

i rember my team was him and the ice guy with the broadsword i think

runic ether
#

chongyun yeah

long tree
#

DW they're on a date, you will rarely see one without the other

slow raft
#

and barbara cause it goes against my beliefs to play without sustain

runic ether
#

true!

runic ether
#

xingqiu beidou is a shieldless team that takes 0 damage

summer hornet
#

How many copies does that require

runic ether
#

0

summer hornet
#

O-oh

runic ether
#

xingqiu is broken at c0

#

there are only 3 5 stars that actually are better than him at c0

#

and its nahida bc no one else does what she does

#

neuvillette bc his own dps is braindead easy to enable

#

and id argue kazuha for the comfort of having him + a 2nd anemo brings to an account

runic ether
#

at c6 its really only nahida

slow raft
#

because to heal you need to ascend your character atleast once

runic ether
#

oh yeah this is mostly about late-game

slow raft
#

and i did not play that long

summer hornet
#

Ohhhh

runic ether
#

when you are building your characters more properly so you can finish abyss and other challenge events

summer hornet
#

I was wondering “what am I doing wrong”

#

And the answer is that I’m still early game

runic ether
#

xingqiu needs at least level 80

#

going higher doesnt matter too much

#

80/80 is fine

slow raft
#

last character in the team was xiangling btw

runic ether
#

merciless pyro dps

#

4 years in and shes still unbeatable in terms of off-field pyro app

long tree
#

(Klee helped)

slow raft
#

xianling when you want to preserve species of animals (its betterto simply eat them)

runic ether
#

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of xiangling. I try to play dieluc. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play yoimiya. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu tao. My xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has xiangling. I want to play raiden, childe. They both want xiangling.

She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull engulfing lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with homa."

I can't pull for homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world

#

the sad reality for pyro dps before arlecchino was that xiangling was always better. the scary part is that in spite of arle's insane damage, xiangling is not powercrept.

mortal iron
#

finally did it

#

i had to use 2 teams runs

#

i had first 2 levels
neuv, dehya, xiangling, furina - this was the same for 2 runs

first run for the first 2 stages were
nahida, kokomi, kazuha, kuki

and for 12-3-3
arle, zhongli, yelan, benny

old galleon
#

thille made the freaky alien cabbage way too easy lmao

#

this is normally a really hard fight

#

oh also melissa isn't stellar awakened

#

anyway, this is a 2 turn clear

#

turn 1 is an af turn, hence melissa

#

break one of the three bars

#

turn 2, stellar burst, break the second bar

#

then kill in regular actions

#

this is the apocrypha 5 superboss so it was made for mariel es to do her thing

#

but being able to use thillelille es was too good to pass up

#

with a bonus of not having to walk on eggshells using iphi

#

anyway, the only apocrypha superboss remaining is warped deus cras

slow raft
#

man its so difficult to decide on the 4 star voucher in fgo

mortal iron
glossy latch
#

Managed to get a small upgrade on my Arle

#

Im at 81% CR/152% CD now

runic ether
#

not bad

glossy latch
#

Main possible improvement should be sands now

#

Current one is only 6.6% CR and 7.8% CD

#

That and Circlet

runic ether
#

circlets are super hard so dw too much about it

#

sands will come with time

glossy latch
#

Whats the ATK I should be aiming for btw?

#

2900 seems kinda low

mortal iron
#

still no pieces for the new arti for arle

runic ether
#

after buffs

#

keep in mind bennett buffs

glossy latch
#

Oh I have 2900 baseline

#

Thats good then I assume

#

... though I do have the atk% goblet instead of pyro damage%

runic ether
#

thats fine

glossy latch
#

Wish there was somewhere where I could test the DPS numbers

mortal iron
#

Theres always masanori

#

It really bothers me that the punching bag guy in genshin has
Invincibility phase
Moves
Guards

copper steppe
#

you know, ||duke inferno's death was a waste of a character|| hsr stuff

#

so far penacony characters are hits or big misses

honest pawn
#

oh I thought you were posting characters you have hc ships for

long tree
#

The red are the ones I usually use and the green are the ones I use depending

#

I don't use reindeer when I can help it because those mind spike friendly fires are crazy annoying

honest pawn
#

this one's a bit rough because you have like 4 status effects spread out here

long tree
#

I don't have a team that's solidly in one element

honest pawn
#

reindeer ishy is crazy good on charge teams, ryoshu benefits from being on a poise team, Hong Lu's broken but is nominally Rupture, and you got a Sinking suite

#

actually, reindeer ishy has some sinking too

long tree
#

I'm saving to get the other butler but I'm only at 100/400

honest pawn
#

this is usually the sinking team I run, butler outis is probably the weakest of the three new wuthering sinking units, but she's still good

#

you can probably throw Sinclair in the team and cheat with free damage

long tree
#

I'm pretty sure I have no IDs for sinclair

honest pawn
#

you have Mr. ENTER himself

#

he's technically burn but he's got good clashes

long tree
#

Oh then which is the one I don't have an ID for

#

I'm bad with names

honest pawn
#

Outis is the hag with brown hair and olive skin, she's Sinner #12 on the deploy screen

#

or the 11th one

slow raft
#

he doesnt have one for don in the picture

long tree
#

Don is the one ye looked it up

#

So what team do you think I should use

honest pawn
#

oh I thought you meant the butler ID you didn't have

long tree
#

Oh nah, I do need butler outis though, doing my best to save but idk if I'll get enough fragments before the season changes

slow raft
#

brother you have like

#

so much time

honest pawn
#

yeah

long tree
#

Oh how long?

#

I'm doing all my weekly mirror dungeons for battle pass stuff

honest pawn
#

no confirmed date for when it ends but it shouldn't be over for another 2 or so months

#

Walpurgis is the one that doesn't last very long, and even then

long tree
#

Walpurgis is what's making my pulls green right?

honest pawn
#

ye

#

Walpurgis units and E.G.O.'s can't be sharded/sparked the first Walpurgis they're out so you can only pull Philip Sinclair to get him this time

slow raft
long tree
#

I'm a bit sad that announcers are in the pool

#

Makes my green pulls feel less special

slow raft
#

i sure love 50 threadboxes

honest pawn
#

I'd be pumped to get the announcers ngl

honest pawn
slow raft
#

i guess shes more sinking positive
but youre never really wanting for count thankt to echoes

honest pawn
#

yeah if you like echoes she's better but I'm not a fan of the 50% chance

slow raft
#

actually, without outis on the team, fausts sinking application is on the same level as outis

#

Anyways, you need 6 teammebers either way and if youre going for a consistent start the first to get cit will prolly be one of the diecis

honest pawn
#

I'd probably prioritize Rodya because you already have a Hong Lu ID but it's up to you

#

Hong Lu ID that you use*

#

I like Rosespanner Rodya but she's not the best

slow raft
#

You definitely 100% always run a rodya id in sinking

#

Doesnt even materr which one, tho obviously an id with sinking is good to have

#

But playing sinking without rime shank only really works in md

honest pawn
#

true, but keep in mind Rime Shank is an EGO you're gonna wanna Uptie 4 to get the most value out of it

#

thankfully it's only 90 Rodya shards since it's TETH

slow raft
#

The strongest teth ego in history

runic ether
#

kinda

slow raft
honest pawn
#

I think I have red eyes actually

slow raft
#

I rarely use red eyes, but it always suprises me just mow much shit is on it

#

And regret is just very obviously broken

glossy latch
runic ether
#

find the local legends in fontaine

#

they take a ton of punishment and can have neutral resistances

honest pawn
#

especially in BL

copper steppe
#

so we’re probably getting traum in the 13th

#

charlie soonish

mystic python
slow raft
#

budget mountain of corpses :icant:

honest pawn
#

I was trying for over an hour to get that multikill mission for walpurgis

#

but then I tried out a support magic bullet outis with lccb ryoshu's passive

#

I don't think I've seen anything more beautiful

slow raft
#

genshin pulling the "easyies boss ever made actually is corning you and you just barely survived" by the second chapter, game might eb washed

slow raft
#

very based of ningguang to pull a ramesseum tentryris tho

glossy latch
#

@runic ether wait I thought you could get weekly boss mats more than once a week?

mystic python
#

In Genshin you can only claim from each boss once per week

#

HSR's a lot nicer in that regard

summer hornet
#

Geez

#

Also Guy did you finish all of Liyue in a single day???

dull bridge
#

isnt lihue preyyy fast?

#

liyue

#

inforget

#

i did it so long ago

#

but I thought it was pretty ahoet

mortal iron
#

i think liyue felt slower because back then it was level gated

#

like i remember you had to be reach a certain AR that was really inflated

#

they lowered it coz the game got alot more content to not need that

slow raft
#

I was already at the required ar to do all the steps cause i did a bit of sidestuff beforehand

summer hornet
mortal iron
#

it felt also slower coz liyue wasnt finished

#

so it was like you had to wait for the next chapter so it felt longer

summer hornet
#

I spent less time on the story, which meant I was spending more time accumulating levels, so the level barrier wasn't my problem lol

summer hornet
mortal iron
#

oh kekw

#

i remember at launch it took ages

late canopy
#

My NA alt account was created some time partway through Inazuma and I used it to speedrun to Inazuma within a week of making the account

#

I remember Mondstat being blistering quick

#

And Liyue having several AR gates still back then

slow raft
#

Dante so based, they really stopped playing around

runic ether
glossy latch
#

Damn 😔

#

Guess Ill have to wait to monday for crowned NA on Arle

slow raft
#

wintry jumpscare

dull bridge
runic ether
#

yanoomfie

slow raft
#

wait a moment, is that prozd i hear

runic ether
#

ye

slow raft
#

i knew it

runic ether
#

there are other popular voices in genshin/hsr that came from the youtube sphere

#

amalee in hsr for example

dull bridge
#

sayu is voiced by lilypichu

#

idk

#

anything else

#

i used to love sayu to death and so that's smt I remember

runic ether
#

ray chase voices neuvillette

#

tho idt he was a youtuber

mortal iron
#

Theres alejandro saab (kaggyfilms) who does cyno

#

Guess he's cy yu now

runic ether
#

yeah and jing yuan

slow raft
#

chat, help me with choosing
saber alter
tam lin gawain (dupe for bond coins)
asvatthaman
astraea (np3)
currently im leaning towards astraea, but idk

dull bridge
#

so soon

#

im so hype

old galleon
#

if you have her already, then np2 or higher and she'd be fine

slow raft
old galleon
#

if you want her bc you like her, then go for it

#

oh wait story lockeds get 50 on summon

#

so in that case you'd be able to get mana loading.......

#

at bond 10

#

50 from np1, 30 from bonds 1-6 total, then 10, 10, 10, 20, for a total of 130 coins at bond 10

slow raft
#

hmm

old galleon
#

i don't think you can really go wrong with any of those, though

slow raft
#

i imagine astraea ill get another copy at some point or another
and it feels kinda weird to use somethign liek this for bond coins
you know what ill just get salter, im never gonna pull on story banner anyways

slow raft
#

ive won

summer hornet
#

Lmfao of course you went to that first

slow raft
#

as fast as i could

long tree
#

Guy with over 50,000 fish caught: the fuck is a "the catch"

old galleon
#

another eden taught me to hate fishing minigames

long tree
summer hornet
#

So after all that waffling back and forth on Astolfo and Pretender... I decided to go for Tsuna

honest pawn
#

YOU FORSAKE ME FOR THE TWINK?

summer hornet
#

NARUKAMI YU IS NOT A TWINK

#

(not completely)

slow raft
#

wait, tsuna was available for the ticker? i might eb washed

slow raft
#

yooo, peak referenced?

summer hornet
#

Wait I don't think I have that recipe

#

That's perfect for those frozen mountains of hell

runic ether
#

dragonspin

#

*spine

#

you get it there

long tree
#

Me who just raw dogs it and heals

#

If only my screen were less blue tho

summer hornet
#

You try healing while you're being pressed by a half dozen frozen fatooie ice cops

#

It ain't easy

long tree
#

Just dodge

copper steppe
#

i got nero she had like 3 interludes which is like free 10 sq

#

from the lifetime missions

paper spoke
#

Umu time

honest pawn
#

I swear, Liu Hong Lu's support passive does not work

honest pawn
#

wait it literally does not work

#

used my entire team to inflict burn and the count stayed the same, even when I had units inflicting burn count at max SP

old galleon
#

in that sort of situation, make sure something else doesn't conflict first

#

idk much about limbus company but generally speaking, if something that should be applying isn't, there's a reason for it

#

after you've checked everything you can think of, then consider the possibility of a bug or whatever

honest pawn
#

definitely something fishy but I guess it just increases the burn count by 1 only if you use a skill that increases burn count

#

okay I'm gonna have to test this

slow raft
torn harbor
#

So leaked stuff from beta datamines for hsr

#

And interestingly enough
The 5 star and 4 star f2p lightcones...
||They are erudition that benefit BE and fua but that's the thing, the only characters which that benefits is himeko... And screwy's leaked kit||

old galleon
late canopy
#

I have now surpassed 1000 starglitter in Genshin

#

More than 200 pulls worth in there

mortal iron
#

holy whale

late canopy
#

Just Welkins, occasional battle pass and many years of playing

glossy latch
#

Oh son of a bitch

#

Next banner seems to have Alhaitham

#

But Im out of saved rolls 😔

late canopy
#

😔

#

Next time

#

Either that or whale

glossy latch
#

Or I just get lucky nyaruhodo

#

Also we got Fireflies leaked kit and uh

#

||What the fuck||

honest pawn
#

yo can I get a link

honest pawn
#

HOYOVERSE! GIVE ME FIREFLY IN 4 10-ROLLS, AND MY FREE TIME IS YOURS

mystic python
glossy latch
#

God why did they have to put ||Alhaithams|| rerun right after Arle I have like no way to farm a bunch of rolls >.>

mystic python
#

Simply get lucky nyaruhodo

dull bridge
#

is it just me

#

or do all the eidolons

#

read actually insane

#

so you basically want a shitton of attack

mystic python
#

They look very good at first glance, but thinking about it a bit more they look less insane

#

E1 ||has the def ignore which is already just really strong tbh, but the skill points you save might be wasted depending on your team since chars like Ruan Mei are already built to be SP efficient, so the extra SP is less useful||

dull bridge
#

fair enough

mystic python
#

E2 ||just depends on Firefly's break numbers tbh, if she has enough to break a boss every time she goes into enhanced mode||

#

E4 ||your supports already cover that stuff usually, and she spends less time in enhanced mode||

#

E6 ||honestly looks a bit weaker than it should be but maybe I undervalue the weakness break efficiency and whether it gets you to certain breakpoints to interact with E2 better||

#

Def not bad though, I think I'm gonna try get E1

dull bridge
mystic python
#

Only weakness break efficiency has an effect on what you try and do for E2 tho, and break efficiency is pretty rare

#

I think only Ruan Mei gives it currently, out of all characters released atm

dull bridge
#

||i know it has the super break thing but i never reas the kit|||

mystic python
dull bridge
#

síes it not

mystic python
dull bridge
#

ahh ic

#

ok

mystic python
#

Looks really nice for Firefly though

#

And always good to have very accessible supports be strong

dull bridge
#

oh i misread her kit

#

🤦

dull bridge
#

do we know if she is getting a new set for her

mystic python
#

||Both relics and planar ornaments yes||

dull bridge
#

fuck

#

i really want to prefarm

#

so breakpoints

#

are 3400 attack and 250% break effect

mystic python
#

||180 speed gives her 3 enhanced skills per ult instead of 2||

dull bridge
#

holy shit

#

i am going to need to farm a lot

#

to get 180

mystic python
#

Only need speed boots + 9 more speed to reach that tho

#

Since she ||gives herself 50 at talent 10 in enhance||

dull bridge
#

really

#

so

#

god

#

how does break work

#

it still bases off crit right

mystic python
#

Nop no crit

dull bridge
#

so you don't build crit on her

#

so prob break effect chest

#

nvm

#

you need 360 break effect

mystic python
#

You prob need insane stats to start considering crit yea

dull bridge
#

she gives herself
60

#

so you need to build base 300 break effect

#

that's a lot of break effect

#

:/

mystic python
#

||37.3 from traces, 60 from the trace that needs 3400 ATK, relics give 16 + 40, break effect rope is 64.4 iirc||

dull bridge
#

chest can be break right

#

i think you need attack on one peice

#

unless her cone is going to give her mad attack

mystic python
#

Idt chest gives it

#

Prob want ATK% chest

#

And orb

dull bridge
#

yeah

#

and break rope

#

and speed boots

mystic python
#

Her LC ||has high base ATK but no ATK%, gives 60 break effect tho||

dull bridge
#

good

#

37.3 + 60 + 64.4 + 60 + 16 + 40

#

you need about holy@shit

#

100 from subs

mystic python
#

Ah it's 64.8 but yea, small beans

dull bridge
#

that all added up is like

#

~280

#

ahhhhh

#

don't worry

mystic python
#

Ruan Mei gives 20, Watchmaker 4p gives 30 but with maybe wonky uptime, ||Harmony MC gives 30 with ult + 15% of their own break effect||

dull bridge
#

i rolll insane break effect subs

#

for no fucking reason

#

what does ||mc || run as bis watchmaker!

mystic python
#

I thought the same until I started trying to roll Ruan Mei pieces

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Yea you have 1 of the supports on 4p Watchmaker ideally

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Then other support just runs w/e

dull bridge
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wait quick teams

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firefly ||harmc|| aventurine what's last a lot

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i don't have ryan

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or do i run healer

mystic python
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Any harmony could be neat, Bronya seems ok but the speed tuning might be weird

dull bridge
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mabye asta?

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i don't have many good harmony with

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I have good nobility

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nihility

mystic python
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Thought about Asta but you kinda want Firefly to be the one breaking

dull bridge
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fair enough

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ooooh

mystic python
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Pela's good ||since there's a lot of def shred in Firefly's kit||

dull bridge
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you could toatally run híñelo

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if you had

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himeko

mystic python
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As a sub dps could work, ye

dull bridge
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yeah

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so i'll start preforming for ||harm mc|| rn also seeing if i can upgrade acheron

mystic python
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Ye, and honestly can use the Watchmaker 2p set temporarily ||given the relics come out at the same time as Firefly so we can't prefarm||

dull bridge
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i'll just save all fuel from 2.2 bp

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and whatever i get from 2.3

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and just go off

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i'll also save 8 immersifers

honest pawn
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Eidolon 2/3 for Firefly seem worth it

mystic python
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Firefly waiting room

dull bridge
mystic python
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My hoarding knows no bounds

dull bridge
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oh i have some passes

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i should go pull rn

mystic python
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o yea I was holding mine for whenever Boundless Choreo gets added to standard banner

copper steppe
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did daikokuten cq

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taisui made it very easy

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rrat

summer hornet
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I have to get back into the event, my motivation has been really low

honest pawn
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me too

copper steppe
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im just in the traum waiting room

summer hornet
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Cannot Wait for Kadoc Comeback

dull bridge
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til

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tilting your phone

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changes the views on ligjt jet cones

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like actually moving it

slow raft
dull bridge
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i r been building pity

old galleon
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today's freebies gave me nothing useful

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freebies also just reset but apparently banner's changing over so i can't do a double freebies post yet

summer hornet
dull bridge
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12 x 5 is 60 im at 62 so just 14 more pulls in 9 days

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to get arlecchino

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hopefully

idle grove
runic ether
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man wtf

slow raft
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HUH

runic ether
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i just got done farming ratio and topaz tbh

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salsotto is so cooked

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if the other set is any good then it just means if u run ratio topaz or ratiorine this is just your best set

dull bridge
glossy latch
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I wonder if this one is better

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Hm

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Probably is actually

copper steppe
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hsrbros is sunday gonna become playable

summer hornet
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that's not even fair, that's just straight up fua relic powercreep lmao

copper steppe
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does the buff run out?

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if not i know what to give clara

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hydrogen baby

long tree
long tree
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Oh boy we have firefly animations but not actually in game just the animation files

glossy latch
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Still look sick

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||She keeps the rider kick!||

old galleon
torn harbor
# runic ether man wtf

Yup
It was technically made for jade
But if you're running a fua team that's the freest 24% damage and crit dmg you can get

runic ether
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jade looking like a super valuable pull for fua

torn harbor
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(cause notice it wants allies to do it not the character themselves)

runic ether
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yeah but thats fine

torn harbor
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Well jade is more better for pf

runic ether
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pig chalk gamba loops are strong

torn harbor
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Like standard fua doesn't actually work well for her

runic ether
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i might spend some rolls on jade

torn harbor
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And works best with like Herta/himeko

runic ether
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but mhm

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its better for herta and himeko

torn harbor
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(hell she ironically works better with Argenti than the current standard fua team)

runic ether
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thats slightly different tho

torn harbor
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She works with blade too which is fun
I wonder if it counts as 2 hp drains for the talent or if it doesn't count

runic ether
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yeah was gonna say

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she works with blade and argenti for the speed bump

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and blade hopes her hp drain counts independent of his own

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thatd be huge blade buffs

torn harbor
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Yeah

torn harbor
runic ether
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well yes

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but the speed buff comes up

torn harbor
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Yeah

runic ether
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can effectively let you go multiple times and meet gammoth conditions much more comfortably

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im curious to try her in mono quantum

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no sustain

torn harbor
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The speed buff is also enough to get firefly/Sam into 3 turns of ult range
So you can technically throw her with Sam too though it isn't ideal