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mortal iron
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it's not that much in the grand scheme of things

slow raft
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Ig fire damage is not a huge % of the dps you do then

mortal iron
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for benny, it's just, get his burst as high as possible, c1 is the only con that reaaaally matters for him

slow raft
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Well then clearly i need to get the consellation that increases his bursts level nerdcat

mortal iron
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yeah, still not thaaat important, he still does crazy buffs

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it's nice, but c1 is the only one that matters and even then c0 benny is still one of the best supports

slow raft
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I dont even have that so it doesnt really matter rn KEKW

mortal iron
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kek

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just dont worry about his cons

slow raft
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Oh but i will

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Im simply like that, i fear

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I prolly wont really play the game after i get arle anyways

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(Technically, depending on how fast i get her ill try to get the weapon or dupes of her)

long tree
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Guy when he sees a mentally maladjusted person (they will be added to his collection)

glossy latch
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62 rolls, still no weapon 😔

late canopy
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😔

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Going full pity

slow raft
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Oh right, limbus players
Dont forget that tomorrow is* the day of the double weekly
(*probably)

glossy latch
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At least I have 5 rolls tomorrow

mystic python
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It's additive to all the other % damage bonuses; using Arlecchino as an example she also gets:
46.6% damage bonus from goblet, 40% from her no healing passive, 36% from her sig weapon, 35% from 4p Gladiator's Finale

So C6 Bennett takes the damage bonus from 157.6% to 172.6%, making the damage gain 2.726/2.576 - 1 = ~5.8%

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tl;dr the value depends but it's usually a lot lower than 15% gain, in this case 5.8% gain

slow raft
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Ah, its additive

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That explains it

honest pawn
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thanks for the heads up though

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I'm gonna need lunacy to pull for philipclair and outis if they put her on rate-up too

slow raft
glossy latch
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Fucking finally

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64 rolls

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Aaand I cant level it because I dont have the material lmao

slow raft
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When does soft pity start in genshin btw?

dull bridge
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same as hsr

slow raft
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Isnt hsr like

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70 ish

dull bridge
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75 and up

glossy latch
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Weapon banners is lower but yeah 75 for characters 60 for weapon

slow raft
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Ah

dull bridge
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from reddit

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sorry

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76*

slow raft
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Yeah ive only ever gotten one character before 80 rolls so i was about to say

glossy latch
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Ok now I can just level Arle

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And try her in the next abyss

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Err, gear

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@runic ether you level Arles attack first right?

summer hornet
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Peak

mortal iron
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skill is also fine but focus all your energy on NA first

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her burst can be skipped, her burst mostly there to heal her and isnt that relevant damage wise till like...c6?

glossy latch
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Gotcha

slow raft
glossy latch
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Gotcha

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Gonna level the weapon tomorrow since the domain is not open today (why is that a thing)

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And then I probably farm the new artifact set?

dull bridge
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glad is so good on her tjo

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idk

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from the numbers i think at equal stats glads is only a 5% dps loss

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and you prob have a good glad set already

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🤷‍♂️

glossy latch
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Ehhh

runic ether
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but also yeah

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level her to 80/90 then normals to 10 then weapon

glossy latch
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Shes at 80 already I just need to get some pyro gems for the ascension

runic ether
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ah nice

glossy latch
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Now I guess Ill save rolls for Clorindes banner in hopes Chevreuse is on it

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I want some Chev constellations

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C6 would be nice but that aint happening lmao

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Id use the non-Lynney bow on Fischl right?

runic ether
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or the lyney bow

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either works

glossy latch
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I assume the other one is better?

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Since you dont really use her charge attacks

runic ether
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iirc lyney bow is just a ton of raw stats either way

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at 2x pyro 2x electro

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yeah okay so

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harp is a decent crit rate and cdmg but mostly an irrelevant passive

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fgm is 66% cdmg and 32% atk bonus

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the speed is nice but an overworld ability

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id use the stats u need most

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so if u are struggling to hit specific crit ratios, harp can pull ahead

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if your fischl is more comfortable, fgm

glossy latch
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I dont really have her geared yet

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I assume its the same set as Xiangling?

runic ether
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nope

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fischl's bis is the same as furina

glossy latch
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Golden troupe?

runic ether
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yup

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fischl rotations are so easy tol

glossy latch
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Gotcha

runic ether
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*too

glossy latch
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And Chevreuse is what

runic ether
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u swap in, click e, leave

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chev technically is noblesse

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but if u run her with bennett

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u will do 2pc 2pc

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hp% 2x or maybe er or maybe healing bonus

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if you are gonna run mono pyro chevreuse, id probably do noblessr

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*noblesse

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and then xiangling over bennett so long as u funnel energy well

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the alternative is 2nd electro

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in which beidou does well

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slight shield and ir, good aoe damage, also uses emblem

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it means farming artis on your account can go all in on marechausse hunter and arle's domain and then strongbox everything bad into emblem

glossy latch
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Eh Ill probably go Arle/Chev/Benny/Fischl

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Fuck safety nyaruhodo

runic ether
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fischl likely wants harp there and also building a lil bit of er to make sure u have 100% oz uptime

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bennett on noblesse

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chev on 2pc 2pc

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so long as she hits 40k hp

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fischl of course on golden troupe

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and arle on whimsey

glossy latch
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Thats the new set?

runic ether
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idr the full name

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but yes

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4pc glad and 2pc 2pc atk% also works

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at least until you get a better set

slow raft
runic ether
slow raft
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tf they doing over here

runic ether
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hand holding and other gay sex activities

mortal iron
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it's a beam clash on who gets custody of the kids

runic ether
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yeah

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like actually thats kind of what it is

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lol

old galleon
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had some time to kill so i went back and refought all the dual spirits superbosses from the final part of volume 2 with just the iphi/claude es/myunfa alter/aldo setup

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the only fights that went more than 2 turns were the ogre rancorem/yasuzume fight bc yasuzume has a stopper and ogre rancorem drains all your af at the start

and the kodama/moonfire fight bc moonfire is completely immune to all of aldo's attacks except sb boosted starwyrm slash

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everything else either finished in turn 1 if they didn't have stoppers, or turn 2 if they did

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if nothing else it was kinda funny watching how modern supports and stellar awakening destroyed older endgame content lol

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then again the hp values on these things top out at around 360m or so

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which just isn't a lot in the current game

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that actually gives me another idea

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oh wait nvm

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i wnet into the kudang fight thinking it had a lot more hp than it actually does

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When Kudang is reduced to 0 HP before you've defeated 5 Shackled Demons, it will unleash a party-wide nuke that inflicts 15,000 fixed damage as a last-ditch attack.
party wide my ass, it just hit aldo for 36k and no one else

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(tbf this is bc of iphi, i just find it funny that the nuke doesn't ignore it)

slow raft
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Chat, it is time

idle grove
old galleon
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good luck

slow raft
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AGAIN?

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IM ON POT 5 NOW

old galleon
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sona based

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awful spook tho

slow raft
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oh, hes rolling on the kazimierz banner? he must want the operator that regi likes

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thats enough rolls for today methinks, ill wait for a few of the daylies

idle grove
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how many def helmets do you want? yes.

slow raft
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arknights players, dont forget to log in to get your free pull + 0.5-1 extra pulls per day

idle grove
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oh you know I'm logging in for nearl's wife

old galleon
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today's freebies gave me chloe

slow raft
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im getting my gachas mixed up bro, i thought "how did you get the fgo welfare when pulling on an arknights banner"

slow raft
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yea ik

old galleon
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her ca is named "girlboss everyday"
never change

long tree
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Her final skill is called "that's why your the goat" or something right?

idle grove
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ik she applies the "GOATed" status

old galleon
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Granblue Fantasy Wiki

This girl who loves freedom and cuteness is guided by her friend into a whole new world, where she will meet a small hero. Her modest goal will surely one day blossom into a grand dream.

idle grove
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I love that they just went all in on her

slow raft
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huge lowain energy in this character

old galleon
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meanwhile in earth

long tree
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The fact she does supplemental even as a sub ally makes them a good get imo

old galleon
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that's mainly useful in earth skill comps already, in which case you should be running her in the front

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that passive working in the back is more icing than anything, since crest passives like that tend to work in the back

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also earth omega as usual is suffering

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if only omega could have some world ender equivalents : ^)

copper steppe
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well hot specter not what i was looking for but

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good enough

summer hornet
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Time for the long haul

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GBF rolls got me an Ewiyar dupe, too

slow raft
idle grove
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we both had the exact same 10 roll

old galleon
summer hornet
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Not even the unit

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Just the summon

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I’ve already uncapped it twice, now it’s three times

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Any more and it’s actively detrimental

old galleon
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lmao

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well congrats on your mlb ewiyar

long tree
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Reminder tomorrow is monthly shop updates

old galleon
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2-ish hours for fgo

slow raft
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oh right fgo has both the 4 star exchange ticket and the rate up on ce exp rn

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should probbaly get on that

summer hornet
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Plus extra CE EXP cards in the FP pool

slow raft
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camille league of legends?

runic ether
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yes

idle grove
mental acorn
slow raft
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i am pogging out of my gourd

runic ether
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holy

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max crit rolls incoming

dull bridge
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this is like perfect

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no

slow raft
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yeah, this is the new blade piece

dull bridge
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damn

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must be nice

long tree
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I pray for full crit rate roll

dull bridge
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btw

long tree
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🙏

dull bridge
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will this be fine for sam

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cause I have a shitton

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from farming messenger

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I have to have SOME good peices right

slow raft
long tree
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34.8% CV

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damn

dull bridge
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omg

runic ether
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that might be one of the best pieces ive seem holy

slow raft
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decent improvement id say

runic ether
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significant

dull bridge
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is there a website

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that shows uhm artis on ur chaacters

idle grove
dull bridge
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wel there is one I remember

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i forget the name

runic ether
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hoyolab

dull bridge
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this is my only kinda good arti

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everything else is shit

slow raft
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:icant:

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really gotta get some better relics on the other slots

summer hornet
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It'll happen eventually

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Just take it slow, a dozen runs at a time

slow raft
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thats the plan

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i am also farming for traces tho

runic ether
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shes so cool gaw

mortal iron
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Hopefully i can sack her when shes out

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Coz...im still going for arle's scythe

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Lord have mercy

dull bridge
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shes so cool

mortal iron
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Why they gotta make release 2 back to back units i want pain

glossy latch
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Tomorrow I get to level Arles weapon and actually play the unit Ive saved up for

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How good do the artifacts need to be to solo Abyss?

mortal iron
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I think a solid 4 glad can do it

runic ether
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this did it

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near 200 cv

glossy latch
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Oh thats 2pc/2pc?

runic ether
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yup

glossy latch
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Hmm

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Maybe

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I admit I kinda wanna do the actual bis slot but I also dunno how much better it is

runic ether
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it is

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quite a bit better

glossy latch
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Do we have the math?

runic ether
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im looking

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realistically, if you can get 2pc 2pc with good subs, that carry you for a long time

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since for your account, i imagine you wanna farm marechausse and golden troupe more

dull bridge
glossy latch
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I have a good Furina set iirc and Wrios stats now are decent

runic ether
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it should be better

dull bridge
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ok

runic ether
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a lot better

dull bridge
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yeah I thouht so aswell

runic ether
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furina + fischl and then perfecting wrio while strongboxing emblem can work out better i imagine

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since unless u are going in on pulling clorinde or siegewinne, the new set wont matter

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though i guess maybe u want to have the burnmelt wrio option?

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even then

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the other domains to farm would be emblem + shime or gilded + deepwood

glossy latch
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And I want a team to use her in eventually™️

runic ether
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oh then for sure

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cant be bad to farm arle set then

glossy latch
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I have a shitton of resins to use too

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But Ill focus on the linear upgrades first

runic ether
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i wouldnt go all-in on it

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yeah

glossy latch
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Aka weapon upgrade and talent upgrade

runic ether
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make sure things are up to date and up to snuff before the artifact farming begins

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mhm

glossy latch
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Then try to ascend to 6

runic ether
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talents and levels will save you a lot of effort compared to artifacts

glossy latch
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Yeah

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I do wanna get her to 90 but man I hate farming for ascension 6

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Takes forever

runic ether
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yeah

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i had a reserve 8 resin to spare to just get her to 90

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since i buy the bp to get to 30 again

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i stay at 30 resin

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why? just in case

glossy latch
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Rn priority is maxing out weapon, talents, ascension 6 then relics

runic ether
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ye

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90, 10/x/x, lvl 90 weap

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and then you can farm artis

glossy latch
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How much does the skill need to be levelled?

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I assume burst doesnt matter

runic ether
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actually

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it depends on if you want to run solos

glossy latch
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Maybe

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Just as a fun challenge eventually

runic ether
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arle has so much damage in her kit

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that it is worth triple crowning

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normals take priority of course

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but since her dmg bonuses and her motion values are all really really good

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she actually takes a ton of advantage of having all her talents maxed

glossy latch
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Neat

runic ether
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like now that its been a week

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we have tangible evidence that she is just him (her)

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only neuv is better and not from raw damage

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but from comfort in teams

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and only haitham matches her in dps

glossy latch
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Hey Im not gonna complain

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Plus hey, solo who can sustain themselves but still needs to play well (I assume) is up my alley

runic ether
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yes

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solo arle requires some skill in the same way solo haitham does

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"some"

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it requires a lot of understanding of your cooldowns

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and timings

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solo neuv too

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and again she is a ton of fun to play especially shieldless

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it tests your knowledge of enemy ai and attacks and timings on their own shields and such

glossy latch
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Neat

slow raft
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i have now visited every statue of the seven

runic ether
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im glad im not the only one that went and did that the second i started

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lmao

glossy latch
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I didnt

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I like to keep the statues of the seven seperate to always have a rough idea of where I havent been

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Because this game not having a function for that is miiiildly frustrating

long tree
old galleon
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now go beat lb6

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do it for her

glossy latch
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Also funny enough

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Arles voice is not what I expected

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And somehow I managed to avoid hearing it until recently

runic ether
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its really good

glossy latch
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It is but its, hm

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More ... soft-spoken than I imagined?

runic ether
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mhm

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its refined

glossy latch
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Its controlled above all else

runic ether
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it lines up perfectly as the father figure

glossy latch
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She betrays little emotion, and what emotion she does reveal feels ... precise

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Like a planted hint to be discovered

runic ether
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are u listening to her voicelines?

glossy latch
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A few yeah

runic ether
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or did u finally start fontaine story

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ah

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yeah

glossy latch
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Some from idling

runic ether
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i like her idle line where shes like "i wonder what the children are up to"

glossy latch
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I mean I know some of her story from the trailers

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I assume shes a foil to the previous knave

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Stern and intense on the outside but rather kind on the inside, vs the other way around for crucabena

runic ether
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her voice direction in all languages cooks though

glossy latch
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Hmm

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Genshin doesnt really have a ... trickster character, does it?

runic ether
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like a sampo-type?

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not really

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heizouh a little bit?

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ayato in a way

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though hes more of a schemer

glossy latch
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Sampo is a specific subtype, but yeah

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Like Yae Miko sorta has the vibe (comes with being a Kitsune I suppose) but shes not doing much trickery

runic ether
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yea shes

glossy latch
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Itto would have the vibe if he wasnt a himbo

runic ether
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she is a bit of a trickster but she is more defined by her love letter she has in her signature weapon towards raiden

glossy latch
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Ayato is kind of a subtype I suppose but a very restrained one

dull bridge
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Ayato is super cool

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imo

glossy latch
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I wonder why

runic ether
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well ayato is the head of the kamisato household

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he has to be more refined

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oh u know what

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ehhh actually

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not super close

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but yelan

glossy latch
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Venti would be if he like

runic ether
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yelan kinda fits the trickster role

glossy latch
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Wasnt a fucking slacker

runic ether
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venti too

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yelan moreso

glossy latch
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I can see Yelan maybe

runic ether
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with the gambling aesthetic and her being a spy-type

glossy latch
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Oh yeah that reminds me

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Wtf is the underground of the chasm

runic ether
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:]

glossy latch
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Have they ever explained that

dull bridge
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there was this whole story i remember doing

glossy latch
dull bridge
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I lied I forgot doing it

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but i did it

runic ether
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lol

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did u run into the mushroom

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cus that is somewhat of a theory for it

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but also there are a lot of theories

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but not a lot of answers yet

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we know celestia dropped the nuke on it just like they did with dragonspine

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its very likely there was more civilizations akin to khaenri'ah that got wiped ages before they did

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it also has some implications to zhongli's story and why he remains so quiet

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and, ||why he was so willing to hand over the gnosis once he confirmed his people were strong enough to support themselves||

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||he very likely wants out of the system that is celestia but isnt willing or able to take direct action most definitely due to a contract. and i imagine it has something to do with the civilization that was around in the chasm or above ground at the time.||

glossy latch
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||Right but even if there was civilisation, it feels like the chasm itself was alive, and Im not sure how to interpret that||

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||It doesnt appear to be related to the Abyss||

runic ether
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ah that

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||yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa it is very much... alive||

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||did you do the melusine quests in fontaine?||

glossy latch
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Some?

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||I know Elynas is the corpse of a beast from the abyss||

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||Thats ... mostly it||

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||Oh and the melusines came from him||

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||Used to hear his voice now most dont||

runic ether
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||yeah. that. elynas. we actually know that there wasnt just an elynas.||

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||actually, dragonspine has the bodies of another abyssal beast. it was a dragon that fought dvalin and venti during the cataclysm||

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||but yeah we assume that the chasm is/was the body of some abyssal beast too||

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||we also know that the way they saw the world was completely warped||

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||they wouldnt see the atrocities they did back then as that. elynas will elaborate on that later on too||

long tree
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Which character has the story quest that is in the chasm btw

runic ether
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yelan, xiao, kuki, yanfei, and itto

glossy latch
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Thats the interlude

long tree
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Oh do they just all share it?

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Ah

glossy latch
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Yeah its an interlude chapter

long tree
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That sucked ass lmao

glossy latch
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I kinda enjoyed it actually

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Granted Im not sure why Itto was there

long tree
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Xiao was the highlight

glossy latch
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Comic relief I suppose

runic ether
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they didnt want you to get too tensed up

glossy latch
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Then again Im not sure how Itto fits in the story at all other than comic relief

runic ether
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itto has some interesting implications

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moreso through the lore of the oni

glossy latch
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He doesnt seem to have any actual relevance in the story as a whole, hes just a himbo who seems to make friends very easily

runic ether
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and the weapons

long tree
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I'm mainly just not a fan of stories like that because it all just felt like a waste of time but I'll let it slide for giving xiao a badass moment

glossy latch
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I can see where youre coming from

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But to me it fits the spirit of Genshin

runic ether
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chiori's weapon was originally wielded by itto's ancestor

glossy latch
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A lot of it is just adventuring

runic ether
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for instance

glossy latch
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Exploration for its own sake

runic ether
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mhm

long tree
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I think it also annoyed me cause it was stopping me from doing the sumeru quest and took a while

runic ether
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there needs to be a bit of a lighter tone for genshin

long tree
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And a lot of it is just "what are we gonna dooooooo???"

glossy latch
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Thats fair

runic ether
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its a lot of trying out different ways to get out

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  • also what the heck it was that they got caught in
glossy latch
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Im more surprised they drop you in with 5 characters that have had minimal story relevance and you barely know

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Yelan makes sense

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I can see Yanfei

runic ether
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kuki and itto are the weird ones

glossy latch
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Yeah

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Theyre just kinda ... there

runic ether
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xiao actually has had a lot of story relevance in events up until that point

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its the biggest shame

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xiao and albedo are the 2 most affected

long tree
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I think what annoyed me most is I knew all the characters there were going to be worthless at helping out save for stating the obvious

runic ether
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?

long tree
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I struggle to remember what any of them but xiao did

runic ether
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they did all contribute in the end to find the way out

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it was yelan's inherited magic that allowed them to escape alongside xiao and itto's recklessness

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kuki and yanfei helped put the dots together entirely

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it wasnt the deepest story line

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but it was fun

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and simple

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with some solid lore implications

long tree
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Actually no I take it back the worst part was the trauma dump room

runic ether
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wait really?

long tree
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Like god damn there has to be a better way to communicate a characters feels that "here is a box that relays your trauma"

runic ether
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that was good

long tree
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That's like kids book writing tier

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It's a legit plot point in power rangers

runic ether
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it adds to the intrigue of what was down there. also do remember the rating and age group for genshin overall.

long tree
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Eh I know but when they can be so heavy handed with a lot of dark concepts it makes the really light and silly ones just kinda miss for me, maybe that's cause I'm growing fatigued of the genshin cycle which thankfully Fontaine was more of a break from and I'm happy nahida actively tries to help

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Maybe I just need to step back for a bit and then hop in again at another point

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I'm just hoping the fire region actually feels like a step forward instead of dainslief carrying everything

runic ether
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dain will forever carry the darker aspects of the story's tone

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though of course as a whole the story is getting darker

long tree
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I don't just mean like the darker tone I meant more so like... The plot doesn't progress much unless dains on screen

runic ether
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the story continues to progress overall

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remember, this game's story has been plotted out 7 years in advance

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we are in year 4

long tree
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Like even when the archons want to help they can't because they're not allowed to progress the plot as that'd mean we have a different story goal than get all the gym badges so you can fight the elite four

glossy latch
#

I can sorta get what Jot means yeah

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Sumeru is better about it but even then Sumerus plot is largely self-contained up until now

#

I assume Irminsul is gonna be the big plot thing but yeah

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Its just a formula Im perfectly fine with nyaruhodo

long tree
#

The lore is neat, the regions are neat, but if I was aether/lumine I'd be going god damn nuclear at this point

runic ether
#

yeah they are just drip-feeding a bit of important plot points

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mondstat is just an intro of course but introduces a lot of concepts

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liyue introduces the fact that the archons dont particularly care for celestia

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inazuma introduces the fact that there are/were other major gods and forces

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sumeru introduces irminsul

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fontaine ||introduces the primordial sea and the destructions of a throne of heaven||

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natlan will be a nation of rebirth

glossy latch
#

I think the trouble is that gachas dont really do overarching stories very well because of how much time is between them

runic ether
#

that will surely come up a lot

glossy latch
#

And the individual plots have not all been good

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Inazuma was incredibly whatever

long tree
#

I mean I'd go on record to say there was exactly one moment of inazuma I liked and that was the kazuha parry

runic ether
#

inazuma's story hard carried by the confrontation with signora

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and raiden's 2nd story quest

glossy latch
#

I guess it doesnt help that the individual plots are also all pretty short

long tree
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Raidens second story quest was fine imo, happy she's cleaning up her mess but eh

glossy latch
#

And have to be cut into pieces

runic ether
#

mhm

glossy latch
#

Its the weakness of the gacha format

runic ether
#

that is a weakness in playing it as a live-service game

glossy latch
#

Or that, yes

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Like to give an example yes its Kiseki

runic ether
#

we get some insane lore bombs and then have to wait 6-12 weeks for more?

long tree
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I will say since sumeru there hasn't been a 5 star character focused story segment I've considered truly bad

glossy latch
#

Kiseki has a large overarching plot and a bunch of smaller plots

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But since its a normal JRPG series the smaller plots get to actually breathe for their full length

glossy latch
#

So you get a plot for each game that is in itself a good plot

runic ether
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haitham story quest, dehya story quest, cyno story quest, tighnari story quest

glossy latch
#

And then bits pieces moving towards a grander plot

runic ether
#

all the hangouts from sumeru onward

glossy latch
#

Which works well in a JRPG setting, less well outside of one

runic ether
#

arle story quest is top 5 tbh

long tree
#

Nilous is kinda a miss but that's not really her fault

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She's just not in it much

glossy latch
#

I wonder if any gacha actually does writing around live service stuff well

runic ether
glossy latch
#

Yeah, gachas are stupid profitable

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And its hard to break into the genre as a relatively unknown studio

runic ether
#

tbf on hoyo's part

long tree
runic ether
#

they also really really like the soulsborne story writing style

glossy latch
#

... actually yeah, what if you wrote a gacha story like its Kamen Rider or Sentai or any other kind of weekly show

long tree
#

And I will happily say most of dragalias writing is bad lmao

runic ether
#

where a lot of it is told to you through item descriptions and such

glossy latch
#

Yknow have a steady release of bits and pieces moving towards arcs

runic ether
#

genshin somewhat feels like that rn?

glossy latch
#

I cant judge, have not gotten to Fontaine yet

runic ether
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with story quests and hangouts and such

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while the archon quest drives the rest forward

long tree
#

I was gonna say I'd like a tournament arc but we already had that and it was not great

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Thankfully I could just look at my boy kazoo

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TBF to that arc it was incredibly short and not really that important

runic ether
#

natlan will be the real tournament arc

long tree
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If itto doesn't show up saying he got lost when visiting Liyue cause he held the map upside down

glossy latch
#

I admit, I dont like the story quests as a way to deliver lore

runic ether
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im a fan bc itd be hell trying to shoehorn in every character in the main story

glossy latch
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I have no idea when theyre set in the timeline and the layout doesnt really ... work all that well

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Its probably a presentation thing

runic ether
#

it also a way to make characters that arent relevant

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fleshes out the world

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like yoimiya

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she doesnt really matter

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shes just the funny fireworks girl

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and thats fine

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or nilou

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her brain is completely smooth

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and itd be weird if she mattered a lot more

long tree
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Yoimiya I swear to god I am sooner going to tides beckon your grandfather than rescue him leave me alone

summer hornet
#

Given my DHIL’s current stats, should I bother making this gear change?

runic ether
#

worse subs on the 2nd but you are way overcapped on crit rate

glossy latch
#

Partially depends on if you have any of the units that give crit rate

summer hornet
#

I like my 100% crits lol

runic ether
#

yeah but you are giving up a lot of damage

glossy latch
#

Crit damage is % bonus damage on a crit right?

runic ether
#

yep

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its good to crit

glossy latch
#

Or is it bonus to a base amount

runic ether
#

but if your cdmg isnt big, its not gonna actually do much

summer hornet
#

My current team comp for DHIL is Bronya/Sparkle/Aventurine

glossy latch
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With the left one you do 97.3% bonus damage always

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With the right one you would do ...

runic ether
#

with bronya and sparkle? u are missing out on some fat dps too

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u should find a better cdmg piece

glossy latch
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162% damage 72% of the time

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About 16% more damage

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Oh actually

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Sparkle gives crit damage doesnt she?

summer hornet
dull bridge
#

yes

glossy latch
#

That might actually make the left one better?

dull bridge
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and bronya

runic ether
#

yes but you dont build her with cdmg

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if u land some

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its fine

dull bridge
runic ether
#

but speed is more important on sparkle

dull bridge
#

you want like 1:2

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if u can get that 1 to be 70

runic ether
glossy latch
#

I know but she gives like 45% flat

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Which is uh

runic ether
#

its better bc the one on the left has real substats

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the atk% is so much more relevant than the other stats

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either way its not by a ton

glossy latch
#

Left one is 142% crit damage always with sparkles buff

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Right one is 70% of the time you get 207% damage

runic ether
#

i would chase a better cdmg body with good crit rate and atk% rolls

glossy latch
#

Right one barely wins out

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By like 5%

summer hornet
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Ughhhhhhhh

glossy latch
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But left one is reliable

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And on DHIL Id stick with the left for now for sure

dull bridge
#

there is diminishing returns with cr rihgt

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or am i going crazy

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once u hit like 70-80

runic ether
#

no

#

?

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the cap is 100

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once u hit 100 thats that

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u cant be more reliable than 100

dull bridge
#

ok

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i worded that really badly

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ignore me

glossy latch
#

This isnt warframe

runic ether
#

theres no dimishing returns

dull bridge
#

I meant like

glossy latch
#

Also Aventurine gives bonus crit damage

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Left one for sure for now

summer hornet
#

I do have a few pieces with like 6% CR

dull bridge
#

idk

glossy latch
#

If you can get a crit damage body with crit rate substat

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Id try that

runic ether
#

if you have a cdmg body with like 6-10% crit rate

glossy latch
#

The maths not hard

summer hornet
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So if I find something that has better CD stats in exchange for crit rate on them I’ll swap it

runic ether
#

that will be the best

summer hornet
#

Gotcha

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We’ve got like 4 more days of the 3x bonus drops, right?

runic ether
#

2

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iirc

mental acorn
#

bro is physically incapable of catching a break

old galleon
#

specifically a brass instrument as opposed to a guitar or something

#

reminder for gbf people that maintenance will be sometime in the afternoon tomorrow, iirc

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after that should be dark and fire m3

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but do your free rolls before then

mental acorn
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ok this one's actually a bit of a spoiler (zt-5) ||i apologize, i wasn't really familiar with your game||

old galleon
#

wait is this the lessing event?

#

guess i actually should go take that one a little seriously lol

old galleon
#

tales of arcarum rerun is apparently also giving 4* uncaps for wilhelm militis and bow of sigurd militis

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nice little gift before water m3 i guess

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also adding glacial staff militis to the event shop

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home sweet moon will be added to side stories apparently on the 17th

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(this was the 2021 anni event continuing the society storyline)

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exo diablo announced for may 22-29

#

if previous exo events are any indication, this will be worth running at least some

#

since this is after dark m3 though, how much will remain to be seen

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new tier iv class being added, "shieldsworn" (not to be confused with paladin)

#

requires spartan and cavalier at level 20, will not immediately have ultimate mastery, and like paladin, can equip shields

#

incidentally it can mh axes or guns

#

bc apparently shieldsworn is metal as fuck

#

also they're apparently inspired by fe gba generals bc their artwork features their weapons attached to their shields by a chain

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new art was posted for the dark and fire omega summons, but i can't immediately grab it

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also petra will be getting a 5* uncap, in case her appearance in one of the recent events wasn't a big enough clue

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apparently replicard sandbox is getting some sort of update intended to make stacking sephira bonuses easier

#

they're also adding weekly skyscope missions for sandbox, which will reward ideans and rp

#

and batch adding/removing for emps

old galleon
#

shieldsworn arts

#

and colo/celeste transcendences

#

god celeste looks awful

#

like i get what they were going for but jeez

#

colo looks decent

mental acorn
#

no fucking way this is the boss fight

#

what the hell

old galleon
#

arknights bosses can be weird

#

so that reaction would be appropriate for a bunch of them

slow raft
idle grove
#

I just read robin's skills and man she seems good lmao

old galleon
#

in the context of what just released in fgo i thought you were talking about alice lmao

idle grove
slow raft
#

Roll number 117 PogYu

#

tempted to pull more but this time ill actually wait

idle grove
slow raft
#

weed hunter

idle grove
#

Here’s Soujuurou actually saying with electric guitar sound and all:

“Let’s go Robin! It’s Mahoyo time! (electric guitar sound).”

What is happening…???????!!!
NASU!!!!!!!!!!

💖 995 🔁 274

▶ Play video
glossy latch
#

@runic ether Is there a way to farm the golem mats outside of the overworld?

idle grove
#

bro what the fuck is nasu cooking in this event

glossy latch
#

Ok my Arle is at least levelled

#

Though ngl the substats arent ideal

#

Good crit rate but only 117% crit damage

slow raft
summer hornet
#

Well we know why Shiki is involved? I guess???

#

(this answers nothing, this just adds more questions)

honest pawn
#

hwat

dull bridge
#

do i have better weapons for lyney or arlecchino

copper steppe
#

||mike was mike fink|| what the fuck

#

bunyan event spoilers

slow raft
#

i sure do love bl

summer hornet
#

Decided to go ahead and snag her from the shop

#

I’m ~130 rolls in on the banner with no sign of Vivianne

slow raft
#

more like fraud prophet

glossy latch
#

Damn

#

I need more of the mats for level 90

runic ether
#

did you get the ones from paimon's shop?

glossy latch
#

I dont thinkso

#

But I also dunno if theyd be enough lmao

#

I need the purple ones

mental acorn
#

zwillingsturme has been cleared
texalt support unit moment

runic ether
#

even with converting them with the alchemy table its still iirc 27 purples

glossy latch
#

Yep

#

Im off by 7

#

Oh well, tomorrow then

#

Do you run a crit rate or crit damage circlet btw?

astral drift
#

TR is mfw I clicked this skill

runic ether
glossy latch
#

Gotcha

slow raft
#

Mostima alter? Pog

simple wind
long tree
#

Oi Xander go back in your dog house

slow raft
runic ether
#

damn why they cookin her like that

long tree
#

Me reading aokos kit

#

what do you mean she buffs the entire universe and then goes super Saiyan and buffs them even harder

#

Oh shit I just realised I should be saving for summer barghest I only have under 2 years to go

old galleon
#

roughly a year and 3-4 months from now, yes

old galleon
long tree
#

Do we get another 4 star selector soon mainly because I need to know if I can get lancer alter home, if not Kriemhild

old galleon
#

soon? not that i recall

#

we do get another one, but it's not gonna be this year

#

also iirc the next one will have limiteds on it

#

so kriemhild might not be a great pick

long tree
#

With my luck in 4 stars it probably wouldn't matter

#

I always get the ones I don't want

#

(see np5 bao before np3 barghest)

old galleon
old galleon
#

this is a neat clear

#

cerrine is 255 light but i think she should be fine at 120 since that's where she gets 2 badge slots

#

helena is 50 shadow, galliard is 26, so neither of them are even at the 80 needed to fully clear their stellar boards

#

feinne's doesn't matter since she doesn't have sa to start with and is only there to be a secondary revive

#

that she uses staves and can bear for helena is icing

#

(probably just use mariel as if you're not going full non gacha)

idle grove
#

lore accurate way to finish the fight

honest pawn
long tree
#

Cinema

honest pawn
#

should I use these to spark for rodya rime shank or get more shards for outis so I can spark for magic bullet outis

old galleon
#

gulp

torn harbor
#

Is topaz's gun an energy pistol or a repurposed barcode reader?

old galleon
#

Dark M3

  • Celeste Dagger Ater (Precocity 2, Garrison 2)
  • Celeste Grace Ater (Exalto, Might 3, Vivification) (also it's a fucking fist)
  • Celeste Saber Ater (Tempering 3, Verity) (also it's a fucking katana)
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Fire M3

  • Colossus Buster Ira (Healing 3, Grace) (also it's a fucking saber)
  • Colossus Bomber Ira (Tempering 3, Might) (also it's a fucking axe) (also also fire m3 saved omega skill comps)
  • Colossus Cane Ira (Exalto, Might 3, Vivification)
#

so preliminarily, fire m3 will want 3-5 canes, 2 axes, and probably some sabers for harder content

#

dark m3 will want 3-5 fists, 2 not!sabers, and idek how many daggers

#

i forget what precocity even does

#

oh it has crit and heal cap

#

also on the fire sword, grace is hp+debuff res

#

anyway the fire exalto being a staff lets you pitch your m1 canes now and forever lmao

#

also dark doesn't get bloodshed in m3 so you have to commit to forbidden agastia for that

old galleon
#

day 1 of dark m3: just as bad as day 1 of light m3

#

i can count on no hands the amount of times i've gotten full rotation in pubs

long tree
#

It's amazing to me the difference between gbf raid lobby's and dragalias, mainly because dragalias were so brutal

glossy latch
#

Hm, now that I think about it, Genshin doesnt really have like

#

Genuinely hard combat?

old galleon
#

not sure what you mean by brutal but gbf pubs can be absolute hell

#

they fill up in like 2 seconds and you aren't in japan so you have ping disadvantage and then by the time you get through like 3 buttons the fight's already done

long tree
#

As in raids simply would not fire if the people in the lobby did not like your set up

#

Not doing the new cheese strat? Don't have the newest op unit? We will wait until you leave

idle grove
#

I think you only don't get that bc you can't see someone's party and grid etc when they join

old galleon
#

that's true in gbf co-op as well

long tree
#

With gbf leeching exists which is like the counter point to that

old galleon
#

but you don't have to do co-op to do raids

idle grove
#

oh yeah I hate coop

old galleon
#

you can just find some random pubs and go hit those instead

idle grove
#

shoutouts to doing the coop huanglong and qilin farm

old galleon
#

unless you're doing actual co-op content like astaroth, but astaroth isn't hard

idle grove
#

not tedious at all

old galleon
#

hlql pubs are the worst in the game lmao

long tree
#

I think dragalia also had it bad because different people in the lobby had different roles to fill, and if you died it's basically a full wipe

old galleon
#

you can always do trains for those, and people actively encourage that

#

i've never done one but ia lso have most of my hlql needs met right now

#

but goddamn

idle grove
#

Dont rush to do them

old galleon
#

if you've ever tried to do hlql pubs you would probably come to hate this game pretty quickly

idle grove
#

everyone needs to ready up, you need to have those primo speeds so you dont join the raid and then it's already dead

#

if you don't ready up quick enough you just get booted

long tree
idle grove
#

surely you'd want hard and engaging content in a 3d action game

long tree
#

Actually this time I won't have to do coop

#

So sure I will personally allow genshin to have hard content because I am the one to decide such things (my dad works for microtendo)

long tree
idle grove
#

what.. do people play genshin for then?

long tree
#

Story and world exploration

#

And their favourite characters

idle grove
#

I assumed it was the open world and the combat not being the same turn based/top down etc as everything else

#

characters is a bingo free space

runic ether
#

combat can get hard in some challenge events but its not the main appeal for the broader demographic

idle grove
glossy latch
#

Figured as much

long tree
#

Abyss 12 is there for the people who want it and I think that's as far as they want to go

#

Even then it's not like it's hard it's just pre existing enemy's with big health bars

idle grove
#

arle has almost made me want to give genshin one last go but I just know I'll end up doing the same thing as the last times I tried with it

long tree
#

Which I assume was getting the character you wanted doing a bit of story then dipping?

idle grove
#

no part of my genshin experience involved getting characters I wanted

#

but running around, while nice felt kind of tedious early, feels like you just go through some big empty spaces per story, and it just took a little too long for me to get anywhere

#

and early game combat felt like wet noodle fights

#

also early story is the same issue every gacha seems to have early which is just it wasn't that gripping

long tree
#

That's fair

idle grove
#

I just know I'll scrounge up enough for some rolls, get nothing and then get bored while playing again and uninstall

long tree
#

Also fair

dull bridge
#

I wanna play genshin again but my computer

#

ahhhh

#

so im hgonna try to become a phone gamer

old galleon
#

the celeste m3 experience

#

click raid with just host in it
choose summon
go to start battle
"this raid is full, you can't participate"

#

or even worse

#

click raid with just host in it
"this raid is full, you can't participate"

#

i literally have failed to get into like 75% of the runs i've tried to join

#

also in the runs i have done i've gotten absolutely nothing yet

#

so

#

yeah

mental acorn
#

cleared jt8-3 2-star is fine it's just one piece of originite nyaruhodo

long tree
#

LEAVE ME ALONE

glossy latch
#

Wait I just realised

#

@runic ether Arle isnt Fontainian right?

runic ether
#

she is not

glossy latch
#

Because she doesnt have pneuma

runic ether
#

she is descended from khaenri'ah

#

same as kaeya

long tree
#

Can arle do the dolphin leap though?

glossy latch
#

I can test in a sec

runic ether
#

no

#

she cannot

glossy latch
#

Nope

#

Funny that they actually did the lore thing there

mental acorn
long tree
#

Didn't she grow up in Fontain though? Did she just not learn how to swim there?

glossy latch
#

Hmmm

#

Whats Arles optimal rotation anyway

#

Do you cancel N5 into a charge attack?

runic ether
#

n3

#

dash

#

or

#

n5 dahs

#

*dash

#

rotation start

#

e -> swap

#

do your off-fielder's stuff

#

set up vv vapes, or set up optimal bennett circles or just get your shit in

#

whatever

glossy latch
#

Its a dash? Huh

runic ether
#

then back into arle

#

charge attack -> n3 or n5 dash

glossy latch
#

Dash felt slow

runic ether
#

dont hold dash

#

also

#

its not a hard req

#

her damage is cracked

#

so often times, you may find that just doing n2 dodge n1 dodge n3 dodge will clear without sticking to a hard rotation

long tree
#

Just saw a honkai sibling dynamic meme thing and ||for aventurine they just put a sad face over a picture of him that's foul 💀||

runic ether
#

💀

long tree
#

They did not have to do my man that dirty

runic ether
#

also this abyss rotation was relatively easy

#

though im not sure i can solo arle this one

#

just bc of the baptist

#

actually fuck it

#

i think i can

#

i am p sure i can solo 1st half

long tree
#

Girlboss and fathermax them to death

#

I believe

runic ether
#

base clear is already done

#

it felt good to kill the maguu kenki motherfuckers after they had given me shit on my very 1st abyss

summer hornet
old galleon
#

also it's funny that fire, an element that actually needs some more accessible katanas, didn't get one

#

tbh the katana should have been the exalto

#

but they went with the staff instead bc fuck shion, i guess

mental acorn
#

i like her

old galleon
#

bagpipe is great, yes

old galleon
#

the celeste m3 experience part 2

#

you can see clearly that was at 2/18 when i tried to open it

#

i've gotten into one raid in the last 5 mins or so, out of at least 10 attempts

#

also in every raid i have gotten in, i'm hit by some damage mitigation i don't really understand so i never get blue chest anyway

#

yeah i'm probably just gonna give this a few days

#

it's fucking hopeless right now

#

like i have a 90% fail rate of getting into the raids in the first place

#

it's insane

old galleon
#

lavog delta is dead

#

and this took me a while to figureout

#

i either wasn't doing enough damage in the first half or doing too much and killing the adds in the second half

#

that makes 2 of the not!lavos fuckers

#

lavog beta is also dead, same strat

#

3 of 5

#

lavog alpha is dead, same strat

#

4 of 5

#

lavog epsilon, unfortunately, is gonna take some more planning

#

bc it does some fuckery

#

anyway, stellar awakening is a fair and balanced mechanic

#

just getting free actions with no penalty, and even boosting the damage further

#

all for the low, low cost of building up enough gauge to use stellar burst

#

which is trivial

honest pawn
#

THIS MIRROR DUNGEON IS FUCKING DOGSHIT

#

fucking hell Poise sucks ass

#

they give you the worst possible Poise gifts starting out so you can't even build

honest pawn
old galleon
#

lavog epsilon is dead

#

so all 5 of the lavos wannabes are dead

#

unfortunately, i'm not done with lavog yet

#

gotta go beat up its giant form in my gundam

honest pawn
#

YOOOOOOO LET'S GOOOOOOOO

slow raft
#

only took me 50 rolls

#

60 for wingbeat

honest pawn
#

ENTER

#

I'm so happy I got him, now I can just do Sinking MD runs for Magic Hag

slow raft
#

casual 5 times reuse

honest pawn
#

you think both the EGO's are worth rolling for?

slow raft
#

well, sanguine dsire is good in bleed teams and only there

#

and how good it is depends on the id its paired with

#

as for wingbeat

#

ill have to test it out a bit before i know

honest pawn
#

shame, I'm not too interested in bleed

#

right now the teams I've got are a poise team and a sinking team

#

and I'm working on a burn team so philipclair helps a lot

slow raft
#

well poise is pretty broken so thats a good team to have

#

same for sinking

#

burns is uhh

#

carriesd of the back of 2 walpurgisnacht units

#

also i just noticed that phillipclair has special sanity conditions that might completely egate his sanity loss as long as youre winning

honest pawn
#

bruh

#

also yeah by "burn" I just mean I really like Magic Bullet Outis and I wanna use her in something

#

so Philip goes in the grinder too

slow raft
honest pawn
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yeah idk it's just kinda crazy that a unit has two separate conditions on a skill 3 to deal up to 120% bonus damage each

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and they stack

old galleon
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big lavog feels actually impossible

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like, harder than getting into celeste m3 impossible

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with the change to null attacks, it really fucked over the regular strat in this fight

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so now it feels like you're forced to bring the gun and the sword

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...except then you don't have a shield and damage mitigation becomes impossible

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but if you bring a shield, you aren't doing damage nearly fast enough

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it feels like the devs, in trying to bring proper balance to one part of the game, completely forgot about their gundam battles

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so now i get to figure that out

honest pawn
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wow there are

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only 6 usable burn ID's lmao

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and these are 5 of them

slow raft
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And only 4 good ones!

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Its dire out here

honest pawn
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is it ryoshu or hong lu you're throwing under the bus

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oh it's both of them

slow raft
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Both

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Hong lu is lore useful as a passive tbh

honest pawn
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true

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well, when it doubt, whip him out

slow raft
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So you go dawnclair, liu rodion, ish and meur, magic bullet outis and then either liu ryoshu or a non burn id

honest pawn
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meursault feels so bad to use

slow raft
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Eh, he has 2 really good wrath egos

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Technically you can also swap in liu gregor for either of the two stars

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But that boy aint winning any clashes

honest pawn
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alright capote corrosion tossing 12 burn on a 3 attack weight skill and then 3 burn on 5 more is pretty good

slow raft
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Regret passive is also one of the best to this day

honest pawn
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shit regret is a walpurgis ego

slow raft
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Speaking of ruina tho

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Now that multi coin egos are on the table

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I am looking forward to lament

honest pawn
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||Queen of Hatred|| pls

copper steppe
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got goldenglow, meow

slow raft
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God i wish

slow raft
dull bridge
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:/ what do I do to improve my team

long tree
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Welp did some pulls to get more things to get my monthly standard pulls from the store and this happened

summer hornet
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Bruh

runic ether
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that was me with the jingliu lc

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i tossed a 10, got her lc immediately

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way back when she launched

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also im super close to arle solo

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i think if i use my raiden and go all out i can do it

slow raft
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Yeah this was totally needed and the id wouldve been trash otherwise