I don't think it being turn based is the problem but because of it there's less to do than genshin, you don't have the flashy gameplay and you don't have the same level of overworld exploration
#Gacha Chat
glossy latch
Ye, but even if there was more to do, the actual combat is kinda .. eh?
You mostly just follow a loop
Theres not a lot of decisions to be made with only 2 options
idle grove
like the gacha game either needs something to hook you in gameplay wise or gameplay loop wise
or the gacha needs to not be horrendous to roll, or be generous enough to offset it
genshin can get away with the gacha because it sounds like there's a lot to do in the game that can grab your attention anyway
glossy latch
I mean as someone who is not usually a gacha player
Genshins exploration is genuinely good
I wish the puzzles were harder but otherwise its doing its job
idle grove
well yeah there you go
glossy latch
Oh well
For now Im just hoping that A, the train gets more attention (its in the title but it barely even matters nowadays >:[ )
And B, we get more robots
idle grove
I'm just surprised Nikke is as interesting as it is
thought it would just be fanservice schlock originally but it's actually a pretty fun game and has a good story
idle grove
well yeah it has that presentation
but it's a pretty good game that unfortunately I can only play at home
glossy latch
Mmh
Doubt Ill play it
Excessive fanservice is ... kinda uncomfortable for me?
But Im also not usually a gacha guy
idle grove
I mean yeah that's very fair
glossy latch
Honestly I kinda wish Mihoyo would make a non-gacha game
But thats not gonna happen
runic ether
its happened to me in genshin
runic ether
Honestly I kinda wish Mihoyo would make a non-gacha game
the gacha formula just makes too much money to not justify going for it
glossy latch
Gachas are just to profitable to transition out of it, yeah
Youre not gonna get better return on investment in a traditional game, which to me is a real shame
runic ether
yep
same deal w a battlepass live service game
traditional games are passion projects nowdays
glossy latch
Mmh, Id partially disagree
With battlepass stuff you need to already be big
For smaller studios traditional games are still the best way of recouping investment outside of gachas
But even for smaller studios gachas are better
See Limbus Company
runic ether
kinda but its also really hard to compete as a new gacha in the gacha sphere
runic ether
ultimately
yes
though i do think genshin and star rail will benefit long term from being a live-service gacha than a traditional game release
genshin's writing has improved significantly since its early chapters and the gameplay of characters has also gotten a lot more interesting
glossy latch
Genshin I could see, Star Rail, Im not sure
runic ether
developments that dont happen if the game is set in stone as a full release back in 2020
i see the vision for star rail
they keep releasing temporary unique game modes to the game
the turn-based strategy formula can be shaken up with different types of bosses or encounters
glossy latch
It can, but replayability is a biiiig issue
runic ether
we have yet to see enough characters that have their primary damage be through a talent and only the talent
oh yeah for sure. though i do think swarm disaster and simulated universe are a good start
genshin also lacks true end game once u start clearing spiral abyss fully with consistency
it at least has full co-op for most things and constant events and u dont feel this issue bc there is a ton to explore
though apparently we get news about a new spiral abyss-like content in 4.3
glossy latch
To some degree, yeah, but there is one concern even with those, that being accessability
In turn-based games thats usually handled by difficulty sliders
But you cant really do that in Star Rail?
runic ether
i think u could get away with a difficulty slider in star rail too
on even harder end game stuff
glossy latch
Actually thought
old galleon
probably not in the form of a true slider, but something like easy/intermediate/advanced or some variation thereof
i see no reason that would be a problem to implement
glossy latch
Harder endgame stuff that only rewards non-jade stuff
old galleon
true challenge content you probably standardize regardless of difficulty settings
glossy latch
Stuff like cosmetics
runic ether
just like genshin with some of their combat events
old galleon
but you can have it for main story/events/whatever
runic ether
granted they dont do cosmetics for those bc events
but yea thats generally what ppl are asking for genshin
spiral abyss floors 13-15 with cosmetic rewards for doing it
anyways tho spiral abyss remains clearable with relative ease with all the f2p characters u get from launch even now
idk if they will balance further end game content around this
old galleon
that's a question another eden is facing right now, actually
jp recently implemented awakening (basically level 100 cap for some units, has some sticking points with how to get them)
caused at least some whales to quit
but one of the questions is whether they'll balance future content around it
right now ae is in a situation where most new story content comes with difficulty settings
so you could just play story stuff on lower settings and breeze through it
glossy latch
Tbh Genshin has it easier to make stuff hard
Since you can make it stuff like hard to dodge attacks and stuff
old galleon
but things like superbosses are set at a high difficulty regardless
runic ether
for a bit, genshin made some bosses take for fucking ever if u didnt know their patterns
maguu kenki and the big nut wenut, lord of staying underground for five fucking years
but once u figure out how to do their fights, they go down relatively easily
old galleon
was maguu kenki that robot samurai thing
runic ether
yes
old galleon
i remember hating that fight
runic ether
they also have done the funny thing and changed where it spawns in spiral abyss so u cant cheese it
but then with recent bosses, they have decided to up the aggression on them and the damage they do in turn
genshin players who invested in healing and shielding are feeling extra smart rn but everyone else has to skill their way past it
glossy latch
But for turn-based, how do you make stuff hard without it just being "have cracked builds?"
runic ether
passives
character/content passives
herein lies the simulated universe and why they pour more content into it
old galleon
i feel like a problem they're always gonna have is needing to keep that balance of 'challenging for players, but not so hard as to force them to quit'
if you balance your newest content around your newest releases, that can eventually become a problem
glossy latch
Im not sure passives help, the issue is a relative lack of decision points
old galleon
that's not unique to hsr ofc
again using ae as an example, they released some insanely cracked damage dealers in the last year
balancing their hardest content to fuck them over....would be bad
bc if your shiny 5* gacha units can't do it, what hope do your non-gacha units or older gacha units have?
and that's why some people are upset at the astral archive's challenge difficulty
runic ether
Im not sure passives help, the issue is a relative lack of decision points
maybe
but it can help to create decision points outside of combat
hsr combat is more like a script
old galleon
passives are fine imo
runic ether
genshin's combat is more of a game so it can figure itself out like that a lot more easily
but hsr has to find a fun point at different areas
old galleon
but would need to be subject to the same balance considerations as other things
runic ether
one thing i noticed is that i feel like hsr hasnt balanced its starting free characters to the same level as genshin has
daniel, march, natasha, trailblazer to start are also not enough characters to full clear the 2 moc rooms
some ppl got serval from sign-up
but thats still not 8
old galleon
physical trailblazer felt pretty bad, and i can only see that getting worse over time if they don't update or something
runic ether
genshin gives u like 3-4 different teams to try out from among the free characters
old galleon
asta makes 6 fwiw
old galleon
if the yukong thing is perma, then that's 7
runic ether
uhhh i dont think she is
if it is, 7
but then u have 4 supports to 3 dps characters
old galleon
was qinggue free?
runic ether
and only 1 real sustain character
no she hasnt been free
outside of that one
hmmmmm let me count all the possible free characters u can get if u start hsr now
okay i knew i was forgetting someone
herta
trailblazer, march 7th, dan heng, asta, serval (no longer available), herta, natasha, qingque, yukong, sushang
qq = one of the best dps in the game... with her eidolons
base qq is fine
but far from ideal
e0 sushang is also ok
herta is a farmer and cannot really do end-game content with consistency
dan heng is ok but cannot do end-game content with consistency due to the nature of end-game content
copper steppe
another complaint i have
runic ether
asta and yukong are good so ur fine but they arent top tier supports
copper steppe
why the hell this game is so heavy
old galleon
should just do some sort of upgrade system at some point for the older units
fgo has strengthening quests, another eden has manifest weapons, granblue fantasy has 5* uncaps
etc etc
runic ether
as i said, stark contrast compared to genshin
where all the free launch characters are viable characters with a niche and can clear the hardest content still
glossy latch
but it can help to create decision points outside of combat
Hm, that could help a bit
But then most of the decision happens seperately from the characters
runic ether
nah shes still free
i went through a list of every currently obtainable characters
only one u cannot get at all is serval
glossy latch
Is Cyno basically 5* Razor?
runic ether
no
razor is intended to be a physical carry
using electro -> cryo to superconduct for the physical buff
that said, something funny happened for the razor meta
ppl saw cyno and went "wait, razor can run the same teams but on slower rotations"
what happened to razor then was that razor has become like a budget/alternate lisa
razor can drive hyperbloom/spread teams very very well especially those who have extended/long rotations
ie: if you use razor/yaoyao or nahida/off-field ayato or kokomi + a last slot either electro or another dendro
hes really good at this playstyle
cyno cant work with them bc he requires very short timings from his other characters + then he hogs the field time
lisa on the otherhand, can work a similar role but she has other upsides and downsides
lisa is not as agile, has better/more electro application, her own res shred, and the ability to be flexible with rotations
catalysts are by far the better supporting weapon type with thrilling tales, hakushin ring, and sacrificial fragments all being better than the matching claymores outside of 5 star claymores
razor also has another use: c6 bennett soup teams
razor, nahida, yelan/xq, c6 bennett allows razor to do something neither lisa nor cyno can which is create hyperburgeon
its one of the only really viable soup teams outside of some very specific scenarios
but it works bc razor is applying pyro + electro with his normal attacks
it further works bc the electro aura reduces the chance for a burning aura to interrupt burgeoning and allows hyperblooms to go through
this is a team however, locked to bennett's circle and razor's short range and lack of mobility hurts it
tldr: hes more similar to lisa and runs different benefits/downsides compared to her
the on-field electro carries all work for different accounts
the on-field electros are lisa, yae, cyno, razor, and raiden atm
lisa, cyno, and razor are strict on-fielders (lisa can sometimes be used as burst support)
yae and raiden have on and off-field usage
lisa works well on low investment/budget or having a lot of off-field dendro and hydro appliers
cyno works best when you have some of the more exclusive and powerful dendro supports like nahida and yelan or furina with some heal support
razor works better if u have slow appliers like kokomi
raiden can be the best if u have a high investment xiangling bennett xq, a desire to play her as a hypercarry, and a use case like having an on-field dendro driver like haitham and/or nahida
yae works well in a similar situation as on-field lisa but way more flexible rotations in exchange for herself not being amazing at purely raw damage as lisa can get
then theres keqing who only exists to aggravate
but shes standard banner so ur chance to get her is up in the air
glossy latch
If Im getting an electro its probably Raiden
runic ether
man fuck genshin its actually complicated at times lmao
glossy latch
Her burst makes her an autoattacker right?
runic ether
no
raiden has burst combos
her burst gives her hyper armor
she cannot flinch at all or be launched or interrupted in her burst
also her burst dmg is always burst dmg so her normal attack levels dont matter
runic ether
ah
yes its basically dragon install
only actually damaging
raiden is one of the more absurdly frontloaded damages in the game
the other electro carries do not have the capacity to one-shot bosses on q
raiden's other big deal is energy sharing. she restores a ton of team-wide energy
shes a very comfortable carry regardless of element
and she has a really good f2p weapon in the catch
long tree
also her burst dmg is always burst dmg so her normal attack levels dont matter
I remember people being really upset with eula raiden comps because of this
runic ether
thats silly
raiden also functions as a 5 star fischl when u need her to
fischl is already broken. why not 2 fischls?
granted there is one big detriment to raiden
she does not function with beidou at all
its the biggest travesty genshin ever did
long tree
Beidou is one of the most fun units in the game and I'll stand by it
runic ether
we are robbed of raiden beidou comps
long tree
Parrying shit feels gooood
runic ether
also just beidou's animatioms are cool as fucl
runic ether
it isnt really
its not something u sweat over hitting or not
beidou's damage reduction and interruption resistance are the more important parts
that + her electro application while being off-field while also working best in aoe content
its useful to know good parry windows and enemy timings to reduce damage since some of beidou's best teams have no other healing though
beidou xingqiu fischl heizou/sucrose/wanderer is a really strong team known as taser
outside of the miniscule xq healing or being a meme and running prototype amber on the anemo catalyst, theres no healing
glossy latch
Also am I right in assuming that catalysts tend to be the best autoattackers?
runic ether
yep
catalyst and polearms generally
some swords can be good
and very few bow and claymores do it well
ie: physical fischl and yoimiya do autos very well
and for claymores its noelle and eula
very few characters will use a ton of normal autoattacking though ultimately since a lot of characters still have optimal damage combos to maximize their dmg in their field time windows
ie: u can full auto on haitham but knowing his combos increases his damage by a lot
same with raiden's burst
how many normals -> charge -> dash cancels u can do during burst time to max er gain + dps
etc etc
glossy latch
Also ayy, got AR 45
runic ether
welcome to the artifact grind
make urself familiar with the local alchemist as well u will be visiting their table often now
glossy latch
Oh, why?
runic ether
thats where the strongbox is
strongbox lets u trade bad 5 star artifacts (3 per) for 1 of any set in the strongbox
it makes some domains more efficient to farm comparatively
since u can strongbox other domains
glossy latch
Are all sets in the strongbox?
runic ether
nope
usually the newest sets arent
the best domains to grind are momiji dyed court for emblem + shimenawa in inazuma, deepwood + gilded dream in sumeru, and marechausse + golden troupe in fontaine
emblem + shimenawa are both in strongbox but as a set is strong enough and general enough to be okay
and emblem is bis for almost every off-field character that uses a burst well
ie: xiangling, xingqiu, kaeya, couple others
gilded dreams + deepwood are for dendro stuff and isnt strongbox so worth grinding
and marechausse + gt value goes insanely high if u have furina
marechausse works on litetally any on-fielder with furina + is bis for wrio
gt is bis for furina and fischl
glossy latch
Wait, do catalyst plunge attacks uniquely make you take fall damage?
glossy latch
Really? I dont remember sword users getting fall damage from plunge attacks
long tree
0-40 meters from the ground is 100% damage reduction, anything above that you take damage
Reduced though
runic ether
Wait, do catalyst plunge attacks uniquely make you take fall damage?
its distance yep
glossy latch
Huh, guess my damage is just super low somehow
glossy latch
Nvm just needed to switch up artifacts a touch
Hm, got a watch that would be good if it wasnt ER
runic ether
save it
er sands are very rare relatively
even if its an off-piece, u can still activate a set bonus if u have 4 other artifact sets
and er sands are very useful on various characters like xiangling, bennett, xingqiu
glossy latch
Hold on its
ER, flat ATK, ATK % and Crit %
I can already tell Im gonna hate artifact farming, especially since the domain takes me 4 minutes
mystic python
The co-op queue is an option for clearing faster, but you unfortunately have to interact with Genshin Impact players to use that
late canopy
I'm of the opinion that when your artifacts are still in their infancy to focus on core stats like Atk, HP, or er instead of crit
And even go as far as to mostly ignore substats, especially on pieces with rng mainstats
Can get basic workable stuff first before upgrading from there
glossy latch
Ye thats what I did
Anyway now that Ive done the Tsurumi island quest and hidden objectives
I think Ill cut down a bit on Genshin til we get closer to Arlecchino
Time to get some stuff off the backlog
glossy latch
Ill just do dailies and otherwise wait and see
Mostly if there is gonna be any banner I care about at all between now and Arle
Btw do we know for sure Arlecchino is coming?
late canopy
Genshin long long game
runic ether
she hasnt been officially confirmed but all leaks + her in-game model is a player character model so she will be
versed pawn
i starrailed through that event
summer hornet
the most likely suspect
summer hornet
shame that I moved Arknights over to my apple device 
idle grove
I mean you could spend just £1 and get a £10 voucher
summer hornet
Incorrect
The Castoria I know would either act fine but be sweating buckets inside or threaten you with bodily harm should you suggest summoning another Caster
||especially if that Caster is Aesc/Tonelico/Morgan Summer||
astral drift
Yippee
copper steppe
The Castoria I know would either act fine but be sweating buckets inside or thre...
remember, she knows how to make magical pipebombs
glossy latch
... ok so
I got a cryo damage goblet
But the stats suck
Its ER, EM and flat attack
versed pawn
+4 and cope
runic ether
its fine until u can more consistently grind out substats
glossy latch
+4 and cope
HP
Problem is I have a decent 4* goblet rn
Well decent
It gives cryo damage, a bit of crit chance and a bit of crit damage
glossy latch
Crit damage circlet with awful substats >.>
I remembered why I hated farming relics in Star Rail lmao
versed pawn
Relics in starrail are more fun because we don't have to wait eternity for the newest set being craft able 
Imagine this we still don't have all sumeru sets for strongbox
runic ether
Crit damage circlet with awful substats >.>
its insanely rare for crit helms in genshin to have amazing substats
versed pawn
And starrail has those self modeling resins while they don't promise u good substats
They at least give u that main stat u looking for
glossy latch
its insanely rare for crit helms in genshin to have amazing substats
I mean not amazing is one thing
But its like def, def% and EM on Wrio
late canopy
I don't actually ever use the strongbox cuz I want to use bad pieces for arti exp
And if I need more pieces I go farm some more
late canopy
For most dps characters yeah
glossy latch
runic ether
they are only kinda mid
some characters its better than the cdmg
it just depends
ie: if u have a set with a ton of crit substats, and a crit weapon, u can end up missing a lot of dmg
late canopy
Yeah it depends on kit and other stats
Most cases though crit is usually the way to go cuz it's hard to get otherwise
glossy latch
Mmh
Well guess Ill need to farm more to get a decent Wrio set
... some other time
Also need to actually do the event, Ive been putting that one off
Is it a fast one to complete?
glossy latch
Nice
late canopy
Each of the stages shouldn't take more than five minutes
glossy latch
Ill hammer it out tomorrow
late canopy
So less than an hour I'd guess to blast through every one
And it's one where you can borrow the game's prebuilt characters too in case you need to in it
glossy latch
Also am I mistaken in assuming that there is no reason for Bennett to ever use anything but the tap version of the skill?
runic ether
yeah tap skill is the way to go
until u get c4
but even then c4 bennett skill is for some very niche set ups
glossy latch
Btw who would be the best general purpose DPS to get for now, before I aim for Arle or Alhaitham?
runic ether
well we dont know what arlecchino does atm
haitham does very well. great dendro application, good skill floor to hit and skill ceiling to cap his damage
runic ether
i think ur good for spiral abyss teams
wrio + lisa is way more than enough to clear
sorry. a team around both of these
glossy latch
Lisa?
runic ether
lisa is a monster
shes really good
her ability to work with xingqiu and yelan, her insanely consistent electro application, her ability to be a driver or a dps, her low energy requirements as an on-fielder, her synergy with aggravate/hyperbloom
all of it makes her insanely strong
u can do xingqiu, beidou, lisa, flex
can be yaoyao, dendro mc, or collei
runic ether
its taser/bloom
this team can work with heizou by replacing lisa with fischl of course
but aggravate/hyperbloom reactions are broken and work really well without a ton of investment
also
lisa has guaranteed 2 constellations u can get of hers a year if u really want them
and she does very well with them
in any case, lisa is plenty a carry on her own
shes also not hard to play
with a limited roster
if u had zhongli, i could recommend amber
but without a super strong shield, amber feels like shit
unless u have c4 amber
even layla as a shield works
and unfortunately, since amber is a charged attacker, she doesnt work well with thoma
even if all that was true, u had zhongli or layla to have that powerful shield for amber, u have the issue where amber and her teams need a lot of investment
runic ether
shes not all that flashy
but shes powerful
shes got a fair bit of tech to memorize too
runic ether
sure
mona kinda works everywhere
only places shes not great in is dendro teams
her hydro application limits her ability to create blooms
and her burst does nothing for dendro
but she works in freeze, taser, vape and can help nuke bosses with bennett
glossy latch
Hmm
Im trying to think, if I make the Wrio team something like Wrio, Furina, Mika, and some fourth slot (not sure who?), I could run maybe Heizou with a XQ, Benny, Xiangling shell?
Id almost say Mona for the first team but she seems ... not ideal there lmao
runic ether
she can work in that 1st team
glossy latch
You think?
Wrio isnt really a big one-hit guy that Mona seems to prefer I figured
Oh wait
runic ether
nah but she can help keep a freeze up
glossy latch
Right I can do the freeze trick
runic ether
and she can help with prototype amber
glossy latch
Have freeze applied, switch to Mona, burst, get the 6 seconds of damage boost, switch back to Wrio and hit hard
Although does it work if they are already frozen, or do they need to only have the cryo mark?
runic ether
pamber is to ensure u have the healing consistently but actually
u can do thrilling tales of dragon slayers
rotation would go
wrio normal -> furina eq -> mika eq -> mona eq -> wrio for 10 seconds
glossy latch
Ok it works if theyre already frozen
Guess that works then, and the heizou team should be decent (?)
glossy latch
Why is it called national anyway
runic ether
xiangling: liyue
bennett: mondstat
normally, raiden. in your case, heizhou: inazuma
it covers most of the early nations in the game
runic ether
energy
yea she does
but her ability to let u run next to 0 energy on the team means she can make the whole team go vroom with bursts
and her personal damage is high enough where it does not matter if u hit overloads and electro-charges
the og og version of the team runs xingqiu and chongyun
chongyun got replaced by sucrose when ppl realized she was better than having melts/freezes
then xingqiu sometimes got tabbed out for childe for a variant called international
basically its childe's best team since he can vape his burst for fat damage
then raiden came along and made the team truly international
some ppl ran kokomi over xingqiu and then yelan came out and everyone forgot about kokomi until dendro
the "ideal" national set ups basically just want u to run either double pyro and double hydro
xiangling bennett is core
then xingqiu
u either go double hydro or hydro + anemo
the 2nd hydro can be mona or yelan
the anemo can be literally whoever
glossy latch
Yeah Ill try Heizou then
runic ether
some variants ran fischl since similar to raiden
glossy latch
Also its wack he has a sai but doesnt use it as far as I can tell
glossy latch
Heizou
runic ether
in any case, heizou prefers beating ppl up with his anemo boxing abilities
glossy latch
Its historically used by police in ... I wanna say 19th or 18th century?
So it makes sense he has it
runic ether
not the most subtle for a detective
glossy latch
Ah, Edo Period, so technically both 19th and 18th, and a bit of 17th
runic ether
hes more detective than cop though he does work with what constitutes inazuma's police force
glossy latch
Same concept fwiw
glossy latch
Or go into this chat
Is he reading questionable literature
Oh I see, I read up a bit more on the Jitte
Apparently it became associated with police because of an edict banning swords in the shoguns palace
Making law enforcement need non-bladed weapons to have in such cases
And the Jitte proved particularly good at that
runic ether
makes sense for irl
but it does not make sense for genshin
who is pulling up to the shogun with a sword or otherwise
glossy latch
True
But tbh a lot of Genshin doesnt make sense 
With Fontaines level of technology, how is anyone still using swords
runic ether
simple: they dont in fontaine
neuvillette, furina, and wrio fight way more with magic which, tbf, can often be comparable to "modern" weaponry
glossy latch
Freminet
runic ether
lyney and lynette are assassins as is freminet
glossy latch
An assassin with a claymore?
glossy latch
That seems like a poor choice
But even outside of fontaine, surely acquiring Fontaine weaponry shouldnt be hard
runic ether
it apparently is rather difficult
the iron sting and whiteblind weapons are said to come from fontaine from hundreds of years ago but its the only tech of fontaine to make its way from the country for a long time
another point is that i think most of the populace would also not be able to afford a lot of fontaine's tech
liyue could sure
glossy latch
Didnt we get a Kamera from Fontaine?
runic ether
oh yeah kamera is fontaine tech
i forgot
though in general, i do think the effectiveness of more modern tech is limited since vision users are basically demi-gods in the lore
for gameplay, they only have a limited moveset
but in the lore, a vision user has near-total command of the element of their vision
glossy latch
For vision users that makes sense, but for general armies?
Surely even a basic-ass gun is gonna do wonders
runic ether
yea its a bit more sus there but for example, the fatui do use firearms
runic ether
its a staff gun
its made to channel a geo delusion + fire heavy slugs
molten earth is what they shoot
but often times, they spend their time doing a shield chant
glossy latch
Yeah thats what I noticed
Oh right, delusions
... wait is Childes weird power not based on his delusion?
runic ether
nope
the foul legacy is the power from... the foul
we dont know who the foul is
but we know hes childe's master's master
the delusion is there entirely for childe to flex iirc
he doesnt need it
glossy latch
Wack
runic ether
i think it was mentioned that all the fatui harbingers who do have visions carry one in case they lose their vision or celestia disables it somehow
they are rebelling against god
glossy latch
Are there Fatui harbingers who dont?
runic ether
yep
i think the only harbingers we know who have visions are arlecchino and childe
pantalone is visionless and mad about it
i think the rooster has a vision but its unknown what element his is
glossy latch
Scaramouche since he stops being a harbinger and Signora never had one I assume
runic ether
signora was a pure elemental being
yeah
she had a cryo delusion to keep herself from losing herself as the crimson witch of flames
scara gets his once he stops being a harbinger
never had one during his tenure
colombina is a massive question mark
glossy latch
she had a cryo delusion to keep herself from losing herself as the crimson witch...
... as the what now?
runic ether
and both childe and scara are afraid of her
runic ether
... as the what now?
signora is the crimson witch of flames (embers)
runic ether
she got loredropped by the artifact set of the same name
a crisis centuries ago dashed all hope of the maiden seeing the future promised to her.
those dear to her, her past days, and her bright future. all gone.
from the ashes, the crimson witch of flame was born, and she burned away her pain with fire.
yet this flower stayed resilient, soft, and moist.
perhaps both painful and beautiful memories were two sides of the same coin.
item description from the witch's flower of blaze piece
her tldr backstory, is that she has beef with the gods for having her lover rostam killed during the cataclysm 500 years ago
slow raft
Thats a jitte
Jooooo, yugioh reference
runic ether
specifically, she hates venti since rostam was and her were from mondstat and venti didnt save many ppl during the catacylsm
she didnt get a vision for her strife, instead her entire body lit up and she became the crimson witch of flames
slow raft
Jooooo, yugioh reference
Fuckin love goyo guardian
runic ether
she did this in a super metal way btw. her lover rostam had given her a hydro-based time piece to keep track of time they spent away but she used that liquid with her own innate pyro application to melt her body into lava and attempted to cleanse the entire world for taking rostam
if there is one thing i do wish, is that we knew where she rampaged since i can imagine a near world-ending cataclysm happens and then a few years later, some insane lady comes out of nowhere burning everything everywhere
glossy latch
Weird that this isnt mentioned any time before she gets iced
runic ether
its all background lore
genshin does the dark souls' thing where it wants u to read item descriptions for a lore of background lore
again though, i do wish we knew where she rampaged
i hope when the mondstat expansion comes around, theres still-burning fields along the north where she was out killing things
glossy latch
Wouldnt she have been in Sumeru?
(I read the wiki)
(And apparently she was at the akademiya at that time?)
glossy latch
Also whats up with all the inazuma characters taht dont appear in the story
runic ether
inazuma's story was a mess
glossy latch
Granted apparently thats also true for Mondstadt
I dont remember Sucrose
... or Albedo
Or Mika
Or Fischl now that I think about it
runic ether
yeah tho that much is slightly understandable
albedo didnt come out until 1.1 update
fischl is just an adventurer. a very good one sure but shes nothing special
same with sucrose. shes just an alchemist for the knights of favonious
mika was actually not in mondstat until this year
when grandmaster varka left with... 90%? of the knights of favonious, he had taken mika with him
he sent mika back since hearing about the situation with dvalin and to give intel on what he has encountered in his campaign to monitor snezhnaya
glossy latch
Ah so from before the plot changed making the Fatui basically future allies
runic ether
liyue, sumeru, and fontaine so far have done much better jobs of involving even the characters u cant play with yet
glossy latch
(I dont know if that happened it just looks that way)
runic ether
the fatui were theorized to be allies since the beginning
but they had an intentionally bad first meeting with the traveler
intentional by hoyo
not by their own standards
they started trying to make amends with the traveler from fontaine onwards but during the chasm and a few world quests in inazuma and sumeru have showings that the fatui arent really evil. just antagonists
glossy latch
Should've had a leash on Signora
runic ether
a lot of ppl are thinking that the fatui antagonizing the traveler when they did will lead to a bad-end in teyvat lol
itd be a wild way to end a storyline but i would be down for it lol
runic ether
yes
that one
for sure
bronya will be playable in every hoyo game at some point or another
lest we forget who the current mihoyo ceo is
long tree
Inb4 genshin is just revealed to be like a pocket dimension in the honkai universe or some shit
runic ether
thats... the leading theory
long tree
runic ether
a lot of ppl think that the reason akivili disappeared in honkai star rail lore is that akivili the trailblazer is/was the traveler and that the reason they got stuck in teyvat is the reason the astral express broke down
long tree
Well damn
runic ether
welt is the actual welt from honkai
hes not an expy like in genshin
hes just the guy
glossy latch
Problem is that Star Rail and Honkais lore ironically contradict each other
runic ether
nothing that cant be alternate universe-explained away
glossy latch
Uh, well
The multiple universes in Impact are the result of the imaginary tree
The star rail universe has had an imaginary tree theory that ended up being disproven
runic ether
which one was that?
glossy latch
Iirc thats what it was called
Member #1 of the genius society proposed it
#56 disproved it
runic ether
ah right the imaginary tree being a whole universe basically + the universes hanging off as branches
#56 disproved it yeah but iircc that lines up with honkai lore proper
since in that iirc, each universe is pruned off the original and falling into the sea of quanta
glossy latch
Could be, idk Impact lore that well
runic ether
me neither
glossy latch
I doubt the traveller is Akivili though
And I'm more inclined to believe that Teyvat is some kind of artificial world
runic ether
i can see the argument that the traveler is akivili given the description of akivili
could also just be that the travelers are other nameless
rigid pilot
Fuck this game LMAO
old galleon
pity rip
rigid pilot
Easily the worst luck I've ever had in FGO
I got zero SSR servants and only two Berserker Nobu and a Wu Zetian for the other servants
Everything else was CEs and super low roll CE pulls
honest pawn
glossy latch
Hm
If im reading the banner history right
Shenhe should be due for a rerun soon ish
Might try getting her
Then I could do Furina, Shenhe, Wrio, Jean as a comp
mystic python
She's expected for 4.4 since Chinese new year is around then
And they generally do Liyue reruns then
long tree
There's so many good comments
Iirc yukong finds out that a comment has been shutting down power to their department when they don't want to work, and when she replies they reply "you're not my boss" and then the account gets deleted
Another is Jing yuan calling fu huan short
And my personal favourite is just someone barking for Guinaifen
slow raft
We are so nobback
copper steppe
the first servant to get 1 nobillion quartz
old galleon
water pns weapon is also a dagger lmao
(in other news gbf has playable gabriel now)
anyway g lance lost
he can't triple so he has anti-synergy with gabriel
so rip lancelot enjoyers (it's me, i am lancelot enjoyer)
so primal probably runs 2 water pns, 2 lancelot dagger
omega probably runs 2 water pns, frostnettle, and 1-2 leviathan dagger
so that puts michael in premium and gabriel in flash
remains to be seen where the other two will go
oh also azur lane's senran kagura collab livestream happened while i was asleep
also they apparently announced a shinano asmr releasing at some point
so all the shinano enjoyers are dead now
copper steppe
paisen 
runic ether
https://vxtwitter.com/froagie/status/1725244942933704708?s=20
ironic isnt it
mental acorn
i have an urge to download arknights
how f2p friendly is it
old galleon
very
just be prepared to get good
early stages are easy with just the 3* you can easily get from recruitment, 4* and up can all go e2 and are usually at least decent, event welfares tend to be solid, with a bunch of them accessible permanently from record restoration, current event has a 6* welfare
the....'partner'? story operator everyone gets ends up being required to promote to e2 for chapter 8 but is still good so the investment doesn't feel wasted
some gacha 6* can be obtained through means other than pulling the premium gachas
(recruitment is very rare, but possible, while yellow cert shop exists, although long term)
glossy latch
I am just missing a flower now for a half-decent Marechausse set
Mmmh, got one, but with meh stats
Ill try one more I think and see from there
Eh, crit rate will do I hope
Did not upgrade the crit rate once >.>
runic ether
real
glossy latch
Yeah this sure is Star Rails system lmao
Itll do for now I suppose
Awful crit rate but good crit damage, hopefully Marechausse bridges the gap lmao
Oh wow nvm this was a huge upgrade
Cut down my time in this domain by half
So effectively my Wrio now has 60% crit chance and 155% crit damage
Thats good enough I think
glossy latch
Ye
+15% if youre using Cryo resonance
Oh hey I get to try the Furina and Wrio team
Oh wow thats damage
runic ether
yep
cyno is pretty skill intensive and its a big reason why his rotations need to be very long
runic ether
its forgiving but if u mess up at all it crumbles the whole rotation unless its long enough to sustain human errors
glossy latch
... ok so Teyvat just randomly has facial recognition and neural networks
... because why not
mystic python
Oh the timing on Cynos burst E isnt that tight?
The hard part is timing when you can fit a non-boosted E so it's back off cooldown before the next eye disappears. If you already have E off cooldown then yea hitting it on the eye isn't hard
Easy to hit the E on the eye every time, but just doing that doesn't maximize damage
glossy latch
Also funny enough, turns out my Star Rail teams have worse relics than Wrio has in Genshin now
Despite having played much more Star Rail
I just never bothered fixing them up ig
I wonder why
long tree
I wish they'd port over the relic making system from star rail
So many units I just want to get main stats on cause I CBA to grind for optimal subs
glossy latch
Yeah substats kinda suck
Mostly the fact that they arent like a bonus
But genuinely matter
runic ether
its purely luck
i have 0 good element goblets besides an anemo goblet and 2 dendro goblets
i have some passable gobllets but thats it
granted i still get good crit ratios and such bc my other pieces are usually cracked enough
versed pawn
Tbh I've been farming for 3 weeks now
long tree
Damn and I have an aneurysm just trying to get ER main stat for my emblem of severed fate sets
versed pawn
I coundt get 4 piece marachusee with fitting mainsets for 3 weeks
I do have signature weapon tho
So 22 crit comes from that
mystic python
Selling to the highest bidder
Altho I've been farming the domain since it came out so yea
versed pawn
~~Selling to the highest bidder~~
mystic python
I had that for anemo goblet on VV once, got annoyed and immediately foddered it into something else; I've regret doing that ever since, cos it would've actually been useful because it's a rare mainstat on correct set
mystic python
The game really wants me to pull Childe or Ayato
runic ether
give me your hydro goblets
i need them
my xq and yelan have been starving for a passable goblet for months on end
mystic python
I would gladly, I literally don't use any besides the first
o and my Yelan is on some silliness
runic ether
actually thinking, an hp goblet may be better on yelan due to furina
mystic python
runic ether
and an atk goblet on xq
lmfao
30.5% er
thats fucked
thats most of an entire sands
mystic python
My Baizhu feather has it beat but ye, lets me use her as solo hydro with just Fav + that
runic ether
its been a while since ive ran yelan as solo hydro tbh
even when i do, its usually on some raiden team
mystic python
Same honestly
But I don't really like swapping stuff around so I just be safe on the ER
mystic python
Been tempted on C1 so I can use Aqua comfortably but usually pref new characters over cons
runic ether
generally the smart thing to do
c1 has been a big upgrade but tbf all of yelan cons are
runic ether
emblem of severed fate
bennett uses noblesse well
but
u can do thundering fury or crimson witch in some situations
wanderer's troupe and gilded dreams are also fine when bennett is the main vaper
glossy latch
Rolled out of boredom and
Can I stop getting the bell???
Ive got 3 of the blasted things now
runic ether
rite of passage
glossy latch
I dont even have some of the good 4* weapons >.>
Did get Charlotte c1 which is nice tho
runic ether
i think im on r8 the bell
glossy latch
Also not having autobattle is painful ngl
astral drift
cute dragon
runic ether
cant say i know much about fate but i do like her design
honest pawn
Don't remember who the other Melusine peeps are here but this is for you
me and caster I think
runic ether
ik my sister likes her cus she gushed about her characterization to me for a couple of hours
honest pawn
aaaah, sisterly bonding
runic ether
i like her cus i like when a character's limbs/body blackens due to growing in power. one of my favorite tropes fr
idle grove
late canopy
New abyss first attempt delete everything
I should give Charlotte her abyss debut next
honest pawn
SWORD
copper steppe
i am the bone
digital marlin
Steel is my
idle grove
blood
old galleon
faker
anyway
should start in like 12 or so mins?
it's starting (in my best neco-arc impression)
oh they're showing the 'new' op
they got the asshole's va up
hopefully no one gives him shit
old galleon
alrighty finally time for game update information
2 san speaking english has become one of my favorite fgo stream traditions
oh wait he's going full english
command card/skill selection subtitles mentioned
copper steppe
WE’RE RICH
copper steppe
kama is on the banner
long tree
Crisis averted
copper steppe
anyone who needs a good assassin thats your chance
old galleon
we have had thanksgiving gssrs before, so
BLUE RIDER GEM LET'S FUCKING GO
santa martha on screen
astral drift
Fire him
old galleon
TUNGUSKA
this is your reminder, as if gudaguda wasn't enough, get your asses caught up on story
tunguska will mandate avalon completion
copper steppe
we are so fucking back
raids are back on the menu boys
thank god i caught up to the story already
copper steppe
20 sq lets go 
alright they wrapped up
We got a date for mahoyo and a trailer for Tsukihime Remake
summer hornet
WE’RE RICH
Not me reading "accrued" as "Arcueid" and completely freaking out lol
summer hornet
PLEASE IM BROKE PLEASE I CAN'T I JUST DROPPED £100 ON FURINA
Also VRO
glossy latch
So you only have the Tsaritsa left
summer hornet
||Sam isn't a buff mecha superman and Elio isn't a cat, sad hours fr fr||
glossy latch
|| ||
long tree
So you only have the Tsaritsa left <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
correct
long tree
PEOPLE LEAKED ELIO DESIGN
||wow Henry fire emblem?||
astral drift
idle grove
runic ether
So you only have the Tsaritsa left <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
we still havent gotten to natlan
runic ether
oh lmao
keen cradle
Did some stuff
Idk if anyone play ba
I play fgo too but
I barely touched the event
And im not feeling for it
Usually i clear every event to completion but im getting kinda sick of it tbh
paper spoke
Idk if anyone play ba
I think some do, I don’t but I was thinking of getting into BA myself, should I?
paper spoke
I think some do, I don’t but I was thinking of getting into BA myself, should I?
Pardon ping btw
slow raft
P sure kreek started recently
keen cradle
I think some do, I don’t but I was thinking of getting into BA myself, should I?
I think the story is really good and gameplay is really easy
late canopy
Yas I started around two weeks ago
I think it's really fun
Story is also really fun to read despite being completely 2d sprite based with no voice acting for most of it
paper spoke
Alright then I’ma do it, any tips?
late canopy
Hmmm
A nice thing about the main campaign is that the "gameplay" stages are a completely seperate thing from the "story chapters"
So you can go do as many gameplay stages as you want without worrying about skipping story before you're ready to read it
So I would try and go through the gameplay stages as priority to unlock other aspects of the game
As fast as you can anyways at least, cuz the character levels are limited by your account level, like Princess connect if you've ever played that
paper spoke
Ah yeye, I haven’t but I get it
late canopy
So you'll hit walls eventually until you level up your account
I believe the game also has easier reroll if you feel like doing that
There's an option in settings to reset user account data
Not sure if it's the same now as it was two weeks ago but I think I got around 4 tenfolds the instant I was let out from the tutorial
late canopy
Besides that though I'm only a two weeks old player so Im not terribly knowledgeable about the game so just going on at my own pace right now getting more into it
One thing I have noticed though is that for most content AOE skills are incredibly good
So you can go poking through your roster once you get some students and keep an idea of who has what
The game will teach you how those work in the tutorial
late canopy
I'm actually reading the second story volume of Blue Archive's story right now
I'm convinced it's the writing but I'm constantly impressed at how effortlessly this story is keeping me interested despite being seemingly really simple at a glance
torn harbor
On another server I've been reminded of an old gacha game I played, soccer spirits
It was a good game with intricate team building via needing 10 places to fill, 3 in the defender slot, 3 in the mid field, 3 in the front and a goalie
It was also really horny with it's art which was why they had to censor it at one point due to Korean policy but that's neither here nor there
It also has faced a lot of power creep over the years, not the worst case I've seen of it but still a lot nonetheless
Still active now which is very impressive
It's been over nine years now since it released?
Turns out it stopped active updates 2 years ago
But it's still online
Which is neat
torn harbor
Turns out it stopped active updates 2 years ago
(it was actively updated for 7 years I meant)
idle grove
void cargo
is the extreme difficulty for daily quests in fgo permanent?
old galleon
yes
also it was already up for hands and doors
only training grounds needed them added
void cargo
yo thats sick
old galleon
GRAND TOUR GRAND TOUR
void cargo
is this ssj4?
void cargo
i think ssj4 in the main story was only in manga
runic ether
honkai star rail we got acheron info
leaker corrected themselves as well
||she is an emanator of the nihility||
glossy latch
Who is Acheron again
runic ether
it tells us right there in that spoiler
||shes a "galaxy ranger" but is actually an emanator of ix the nihility||
i believe shes a raiden expy
yes she is
sam and firefly lore
its so over
i have lost all interest in sam
glossy latch
digital marlin
runic ether
firefly's story sounds great but im no longer interested unless she goes all-in like guilty gear's haehyun and just acts and is sam
boothil model + character description
digital marlin
YEE HAW
runic ether
i believe hes an abundance or harmony fire unit
old galleon
seele but edgy : ^)
runic ether
its raiden not seele
old galleon
i know
runic ether
unless u mean raiden has always been an edgy seele
old galleon
i'm saying she looks like seele but edgy
runic ether
which tbf idk enough about raiden in honkai
old galleon
i still like the design tho
runic ether
indeed. apparently there is another raiden in hsr
runic ether
genshin fontaine story spoilers
||https://vxtwitter.com/ShiZuKu1473/status/1726181851998621873||
lmfao
astral drift
Ye
honest pawn
based
old galleon
Usually i clear every event to completion but im getting kinda sick of it tbh
i get not liking 100 mission events ( i don't really like them either) but i think ranmaru is good enough to justify, esp if you don't already have good universal loopers
iirc this event hasn't rerun yet in jp, so it's your only shot
(don't expect future events to have reruns either, they've explicitly stopped doing that)
but aside from that, the event ce is also pretty nice
even though it's split stat, 30% powermod is welcome whenever you're in the relevant niche
future content spoilers ||i think it's particularly good in wave 2 of the flare marie gauntlet||
keen cradle
i get not liking 100 mission events ( i don't really like them either) but i thi...
I already have np2 spishtar and castoria
Yea i mean I'll finish but like im kinda not motivated these days
old galleon
understandable
versed pawn
Oh BTW archon quest was really cool did it last week allready
keen cradle
Should i whale for more izo copies
old galleon
he's a 3*, you shouldn't need to whale for him
if you want him at np5, no reason not to try, but you should have better assassins if gameplay is a factor
astral drift
Enter grand saber
keen cradle
I actually have a lot of ssr cus i been playing for 6 years
keen cradle
Like my box?
old galleon
ye
i assume you have most if not all the low rarities so no need for those
(unless you have any you want to show off bc you grailed them or just plain like them)
keen cradle
