but even his english va is great
#Gacha Chat
runic ether
runic ether
huh
wait nvm
i forgot nilou
was about to say he was the last hydro 5 star huh
from boba tea man to neuv but theres a nilou between them
runic ether
yelan i always thought came out between ayato and kokomi
late canopy
I know Yelan came out towards the tail end of Inazuma cuz of the Chasm storyline which was very memorable
runic ether
tbf i played most of chasm before enkanomiya
runic ether
i discovered enkanomiya late and it was fun for the music but i thought it was just worse chasm overall
only later did i found out it was beta chasm
glossy latch
Honestly I just wish Star Rail had more variety
Its a sci fi setting
Why are they almost all humanoids?
runic ether
i was really looking forward to chasm cus i saw how huge it was and then it just got deeper
late canopy
Yeeep
runic ether
enkanomiya i had no idea even existed
late canopy
It legit got scary in many areas
runic ether
so it was a nice surprise
late canopy
Above levels still had decent amounts of human activity
Then it gets weirder the further down you go
late canopy
Ah ye
Great one
Favorite song in genshin off the top of my head would probably be the port ormos theme
runic ether
usually per region i ended up liking a battle theme a lot but i wasnt super into the inazuma battle themes outside of bosses
but the enkanomiya theme went hard
runic ether
Favorite song in genshin off the top of my head would probably be the port ormos...
port ormos is so good
glossy latch
Also will say, Fontaine looks fun
runic ether
they didnt need to go so hard for a town theme
runic ether
uh huh
fontaine is steampunk-ish
out of the regions its the most technologically advanced we have seen so far
iirc only outclassed in tech by scheznaya
*schneznaya
runic ether
yeah i really liked underwater too
its not annoying which is a low bar to clear but it also has a ton of cute passive mobs
late canopy
I'm glad they did the combat the way they did
They said during a patch stream that it was a big challenge
For how they would approach it
Eventually they decided to use its own system cuz moving over the regular combat into the water never felt right no matter what they did
runic ether
yea and im glad
could have been awkward
also the crystalflies
my reserve has climbed back up to 400ish flies
late canopy
I get lazy sometimes and it drops back down
I have 218 now
Used to consistently be 300+
late canopy
Set from what I understand
runic ether
set yep
runic ether
so that it isnt a pain for new players and u dont have to learn an entire new combat system with suboptimal stats
only complaint i have with fontaine is
puzzles are a tad too easy
liyue to sumeru had some interesting puzzles
havent really felt that from fontaine yet
late canopy
Ya now that you mention it there haven't been too many special puzzles
Inazuma was loaded
runic ether
all of it is too intuitive
i loved the desert bc the puzzles were fun there
it felt like a proper adventure and exploration
late canopy
I basically skipped nearly all of Sumeru exploration sadly
I was feeling unmotivated a lot during Sumeru era
So a lot of it is still just sitting there
runic ether
i was like hey neat more incentive to play through this
late canopy
Almost all my desert still <20%
runic ether
im at 92-100% for all of sumeru
๐
those 3 areas are my favorite in sumeru for sure
late canopy
Will go back after Fontaine cools down a little
Fontaine new and shiny still need attention
late canopy
From what people have gathered of the exploration % in the reputation
We're still getting two more areas
late canopy
Yeah not surprising at all lmao
runic ether
also according to leaks we are getting more playable adepti in 4.x so yea we are def getting a liyue expansion
runic ether
p sure 4.3 will be navia and have the last bit of fontaine to explore
4.4 will be liyue
nothing major in 4.5 besides maybe clorinde
4.6 arlecchino
and nothing known for 4.7 to 5.0
glossy latch
Wait whats Natlan?
runic ether
south america region
late canopy
Should be in a year
runic ether
yup
we know so very little bc the people arent allowed to travel outside natlan
the pyro archon is the archon of war
also was named murata so its himeko
late canopy
The most impressive thing about Genshin
runic ether
lol
late canopy
Is how you can go back to this trailer every year after year
And they've stuck to the vision and schedule
runic ether
what we do know about at least an area in natlan
is mare jivari
hinted at all the way back from mondstat
a land with no wind and no life littered with lava flows
and somehow bennett was found there as a baby
also what is that secret the pyro archon knows
late canopy
Things to find out next year
glossy latch
Ill probably see all this when I get there 
runic ether
also cant wait to see bronya in genshin in 2 years
i hope she looks more like hsr bronya than the impact 3rd younger bronya's
just personal preference
iirc the tsaritsa is one of the older archons even tho she isnt one of the original 7
glossy latch
Oh the Tsaritsa is Bronya?
runic ether
almost certainly
iirc in the beta she was name dropped as bronya
and so far every archon has been a honkai character expy
not the exact same but very similar
glossy latch
Wait who is Venti?
runic ether
venti = wendy
zhongli = sigfried
raiden = raiden
furina = sin mal iirc?
murata = himeko murata
tsaritsa = bronya
late canopy
Some more alike than others prob
runic ether
yea
glossy latch
Ye but I dont see any relation?
late canopy
Everyone was on about Raiden to Raiden back in the day
And Yae to whatever that other lady was
runic ether
yae miko and yae sakura are expys
but they dont actually look all that similar
also the unknown god at the beginning is kiana
glossy latch
That I noticed
runic ether
they could throw a curve ball and have the tsaritsa be cocolia
but since beta she was named bronya itd be a bit much of a design change
- we know the reason tsaritsa has beef with celestia is bc she lost someone special to her during khaenria and realized the farce of celestia which would make more sense imo if it was a bronya that lost her seele than cocolia
late canopy
Exciting to eventually see that unfold in two years
Been talked about literally all Genshin lifespan
late canopy
Ya
runic ether
childe is more loyal to her than the fatui
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Culmination of all her succcessful gnosis gathering
runic ether
which is impressive for a himbo that only thinks about fighting
im more wondering how they will manage to redeem dottore too since hes supposed to be playable
id be very surprised if he was the 1st truly evil character we get to play as
late canopy
I'm suprised they've opted to move over him in Fontaine
runic ether
oh and how dainsleif will play
late canopy
The previous pattern was
A harbinger gets set up in a previous region
Before being confronted very soon after
Signora, Childe, Scara all fought by this point
late canopy
Xinqiu adoration I've noticed being there but much more mild
dull bridge
fair enough
late canopy
Unlike Wanderer and Al Haitham which turn people into rabid dogs
dull bridge
lmao
dull bridge
i love xingqiu
i'm trying to like learn his normal attack form irl
it's kinda hard
because of his jump
the 4?
or 5 i forget off top of my head
runic ether
Signora, Childe, Scara all fought by this point
yea but they are all of lower rank
dottore is 2nd
runic ether
also why i dont think we will fight arlecchino
late canopy
I am
Actually very interested how that's going to go down
She also doesn't particualrly seem interested in fighting us?
At least from what I've gathered from seeing her in act 4 so far
runic ether
and we helped her children. im sure lyney and his siblings have spoken highly of us to her
i have thoughts based on leaks but leaks havent been specific on any of the storybeats
glossy latch
Wait those 2 are related to Arlecchino?
runic ether
no
late canopy
Not literally
runic ether
she runs an orphanage
runic ether
/child soldier training camp
runic ether
and herself as father
late canopy
Lyney and Lynette literally siblings
glossy latch
Ah I see
runic ether
the way that wanderer and childe described her tho?
makes me so curious
wanderer says she is a wolf in sheep's clothing
childe says there is not a sane bone in her body
they also both ranked lower than her and the bravado she had when ||nearly killing furina makes me curious if it was fear of her or admiration||
late canopy
Knowing Childe it was the latter
late canopy
Actually never mind
Childe's quote paints it as disdain being more likely based on his tone
Look, I've got nothing against people who have their own agendas โ I myself joined the Fatui to get more experience in combat. But I don't like her at all. If she stood to benefit from betraying others, she'd turn against the Tsaritsa in a heartbeat. There isn't a sane bone in her body.
runic ether
yeah
late canopy
Right now all we know about her is that she's kind of interesed in Fontaine's doomed prophecy and what makes Furina tick
runic ether
but who knows
late canopy
Yeah I think so too
runic ether
drops the facade and starts demanding answers from her god
late canopy
I think how that desire will manifiest itself will be the key
runic ether
yea
im def thinking she tries to take the gnossis to take matters into her own hands
runic ether
tho with what neuv said at the end of the quest, i think he will be key to saving it all
late canopy
Like what Scara did
runic ether
yeah what im thinking
||furina loses the gnosis to arlecchino but reveals the plan was to use it to make neuv the full powered sovereign and they give it up so he can stop the prophecy.||
and this is straying into more of a crazy theory part
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The hinted straightforward answer is that ||the gnosis is currently in the Oratrice ||
runic ether
||arlecchino then reveals that this was the tsaritsa's plan all along. empower the sovereigns to take their power back against celestia. and we learn that the anemo gnosis was already used to restore dvalin and the dendro one will be used on apep.||
||this all culminating on celestia finally activating again and keeping a close eye on fontaine.||
late canopy
Ya that's certainly plausible
runic ether
would also give credence to the contract to end all contracts
since ||this would give the world back to the dragons as it was by their right||
||and it hopefully restores azdaha back to normal so he and zhongli can be friends again||
man speaking of zhongli, i need him and neuvillette to interact
late canopy
Tired old men the both of them
runic ether
and they both have a sassy kid to look after
wait have u done neuv's story quest yet
late canopy
I love how they're also both technically the sassy kid's subordinate
Not yet actually
runic ether
ah okay
late canopy
I was gonna go do it but have been dragged away to do the Fortress world quest first
runic ether
dont miss clicking on things at the end
late canopy
Ohoh ok
runic ether
i just finished the fortress world quest
what a ride
i wasnt expecting it to go how it did
late canopy
I think I still have long ways to go
runic ether
what part u at
late canopy
I'm still in the middle of ticket racing
runic ether
ah
late canopy
To let the kids go outside
runic ether
yea just a bit more
runic ether
late canopy
summer hornet
simple wind
glossy latch
Oh hey I got Xingqiu
runic ether
gg
glossy latch
He is good from C0 right?
runic ether
c2 is his most notable constellation before c6 though
since its hydro resistance shred
meaning if hes paired with other hydros
he boosts their damage
on top of his own
and then c6 he just becomes even better version of himself
glossy latch
Nice
runic ether
while on average, you wanna build about 200% er on xq
u can lower it to about 180% with another hydro
with c6 he just requires about 120-140% in double hydro teams or with a favonious weapon funneling particles to him on top of skyrocketing his damage
his only real weakness
is that his hydro application is very single target focused
and he wants you to normal attack
this isnt a real issue for most teams and most content
but it does come up
runic ether
granted at c6 he does apply so much hydro through the extra rain swords in some aoe content he does a better job than dedicated aoe hydro appliers (barbara)
glossy latch
God Im kinda mad I just cant get Lynx >.>
Ok doing quick math
I dont think I can get another guaranteed 4*
runic ether
that sucks
hopefully she is given free at some point soonish
or reruns with a character u wanna pull on
glossy latch
Mmh
Odd that I had such rough luck this time though
Usually I get the 4* early
Also wow they Jebaited us with ||Sam||
Apparently ||Sam is not a unit by themselves, but instead just a mechsuit controlled by the actual unit ... another waifu character called Firefly||
summer hornet
glossy latch
Such a downgrade
summer hornet
The worst case scenario
runic ether
Apparently ||Sam is not a unit by themselves, but instead just a mechsuit contro...
yea i saw those rumors but it is still questionable
heres hoping 
glossy latch
chrome pilot
void cargo
does anybody have a good habetrot for kirschtaria fight?
slow raft
Argors is atleast np2
But uh
You didnt hear this from me, but mash can solo that fight
void cargo
how
void cargo
Argors is atleast np2
ik but it has the farming ce
slow raft
how
Determination
Mostly a combination of the insane buffs she get in this lb, holy shroud of magdalene and the fact that mystic code cds are halved this fight
void cargo
problem is
i dont have the holy shroud
i could do +20% buster damage but i think its not worth it
long tree
Princess trunks canon
idle grove
slow raft
old galleon
does anybody have a good habetrot for kirschtaria fight?
mash can solo it
it'll take a while tho, and you'll actually need her leveled up
my habetrot is np5 but for most boss situations, habetrot tends to play more of a supportive role
remember, simply attacking with a rider isn't enough ||since he isn't weak to rider||
old galleon
@toxic cloudthe screens you posted are fine, but remember to spoiler things that need it
i'm trying to avoid spoilers and others might be as well
toxic cloud
Oh sure
old galleon
thanks
void cargo
remember, simply attacking with a rider isn't enough ||since he isn't weak to ri...
ik i can heal her with my master skill and her skill and also evade/invincible her when wodime has max charge
and she still has the resistance against casters
old galleon
pretty sure he also attacks neutrally against riders in that fight, would have to check
void cargo
with a better ce i could do habetrot solo. i think i could somehow do it with mash but i dont have the shroud ce
void cargo
pretty sure he also attacks neutrally against riders in that fight, would have t...
nope
old galleon
if you're open to using command spells then it becomes easier, yes
you only get one command spell revive per 3 days, though
void cargo
1 should work
old galleon
it'd be one thing if you also have leyline stones but i don't suggest using sq to revive at all
void cargo
i dont care much about sq
if i think i cant win a battle without revive i will wait until i have 3 spells and if i die again after using them i revive once with sq
old galleon
the issue with using sq is you directly reduce your chances to roll on the gacha
the other means of revival don't have that limitation
void cargo
but i dont revive with sq unless there are thinks like this event where you have to progress through story
old galleon
....the halloween event?
void cargo
no the thing with the crystal lore
old galleon
oh
void cargo
dont know the name
old galleon
don't trade sq for lores
slow raft
Oh right, the choice of which mecha elizabeth doesnt really matter, right?
old galleon
if you lack both, then no
slow raft
Only one of their appends is different
old galleon
for gameplay purposes, they're the same unit except the third append skill and lore considerations
if you had only of the two, then you'd take the one you don't have
void cargo
they also have the exact same traits dont they?
old galleon
they are functionally the same unit except append 3
so yes
their stats are identical, their skills are identical, their np is identical
the nice thing about having both is being able to use both in certain fights where you actually want an alter ego attacker
||also ort||
void cargo
cant you use the 2 same mechas in a party?
void cargo
whats the point in raising more than 1 of the same servant then?
old galleon
mainly esports
some servants like georgios and leonidas have their taunt skills available at level 1
void cargo
you use these to let them die
old galleon
so you have a high level copy you keep for content where that would be desirable and keep level 1 copies for their taunts to kill them off quickly
yep
void cargo
is it georgios' ce that gives a beneficial effect upon death?
or do people use other ces
old galleon
his bond ce gives the party invincible when he dies, yes
i think it's 2 hits or so
if you need the invincible, you can run it
i certainly have before
but you can also run things like battle of camlann (party np gain on death) or 500 year obsession (np seal on enemies on death)
void cargo
damn georgios should be lancer class if he is just there to die
runic ether
oh shit lol mona furina and yelan work excellent together
old galleon
he can die quickly if you use a level 1 copy, but he can also hold a line pretty well if you use a leveled copy
his taunt lasts 3 turns so you can use it to kill time and keep your other servants safe
void cargo
3 turn taunt is pretty rare
old galleon
but yeah back to your original question, for the most part, you're not gonna need dupes; they exist mainly to raise np level of your base unit, then burn after you got the base to np5
runic ether
had a feeling too but noelle becomes even better with furina hmmmm
old galleon
but if you're particularly dedicated and have the cash to spend for it, you can flex and raise dupes just because
i've seen accounts with a bunch of tamamo dupes ,for example
runic ether
noelle/yun jin/yelan/furina meta??
void cargo
but if you're particularly dedicated and have the cash to spend for it, you can ...
i dont plan on spending money on this game and even if, i think i can invest the money in something more useful than dupes
void cargo
does a support mash also get the bonus in wodime fight?
old galleon
i actually don't know
void cargo
killed him
old galleon
how many revives?
old galleon
not bad
summer hornet
sometimes I can still hear his voice 
void cargo
well idk about that together part
old galleon
if you haven't already, make sure to run the halloween event for some welfares
they're all pretty old but make for decent roster filler and just got some strengthenings
void cargo
i did
old galleon
||now that's what i call foreshadowing||
void cargo
was this event released before part 2?
old galleon
all of the liz halloween events prior to this year's were before part 2
void cargo
damn
old galleon
the ones that gave us caster liz and saber liz were in 2017 and 2018 respectively
the one that gave us mecha liz was in 2019, during epic of remnant
void cargo
which halloween events came after these?
old galleon
only the caster shuten one, in 2020
then there were two straight years without a halloween themed event at all
saber wars 2 released around halloween 2021
void cargo
they put a lot of effort in this one huh?
old galleon
the current event is just a retelling of the main stories of the liz halloween events that give you a copy of their respective welfares, but there is gonna be the new halloween event later on
that one in particular gives one of the better welfares in the entire game
void cargo
do we even have the release date yet? i know of "middle of october"
old galleon
if we have a release date, i haven't seen it yet
old galleon
pick a different time to be lewd
they didn't translate this in the original event either, right?
summer hornet
don't think so
summer hornet
||https://i.imgur.com/ydkC9hg.jpg||
IRL friend approached me about this scene lol, he was like "she's acting super weird compared to how she is elsewhere"
old galleon
isn't her only other main bit of characterization from ooku?
summer hornet
I think so? Maybe Interludes too
oh he explicitly mentioned Salem
I forgot about that
astral drift
old galleon
oh he explicitly mentioned Salem
halloween came before salem
old galleon
pretty much
your friend says she's acting really weird here compared to elsewhere, but so far, 'elsewhere' is stuff after halloween
so it makes some sense if they wanted to develop her character a bit more later on
glossy latch
@runic ether is Yaoyao any good?
runic ether
yugwei is one of the most goated characters in all of genshin
fuck i spelled that so badly
yuegui
glossy latch
Is that the same character?
glossy latch
Ah
runic ether
tldr yes yaoyao is ridiculously good
big reason is bc of yuegui
she applies dendro, heals, and as a result, shes great
also look at him
runic ether
dendro is where genshin can get a bit complicated
notably the difference in when its applied and with what it reacts with
dendro reacts with electro hydro pyro (cryo)
dendro + electro = quicken
if electro touches the quicken aura you get aggravate
if dendro touches quicken you get spread
aggravate is additive damage bonus to the triggering attack
spread does the same but depending on the applier, can leave u with more electro or more dendro aura
and these are important for a 3rd interaction
if dendro and hydro touch you get bloom
bloom makes dendro cores on the ground that explode in 6 seconds dealing aoe dendro to everyone including your characters
but if a dendro core is hit by electro, you get a hyperbloom
which creates a homing sprawling shot that deals aoe dendro in a tiny aoe that tracks enemies
if you wanna hyperbloom, you want to quicken -> spread so that your hydro can make cores
the other reactions are burning
when pyro meets dendro
deals aoe pyro dot damage and holds the pyro application on the enemies
if a bloom core is hit by pyro, you get burgeon
which detonates the core and deals really big aoe dendro damage
depending on how u stack it, you can actually do all the interactions at once with a "soup" team
often called hyperburgeon
and finally
cryo and dendro dont have direct interaction
instead
dendro and cryo can coexist as status on enemies
so if you hit them with dendro, and then cryo, they will have a dendro and cryo aura
this causes bloom cores to last longer and creates more bloom cores
commonly known as fridge, its when you hyperbloom but use freeze to "preserve" the hydro aura on enemies to guarantee more bloom cores and ensure your electro app is never wasted
burning also has additional benefits to vaping since a lot of the reaciton damage from dendro comes in the form of elemental mastery
vaping and melting also care about elemental mastery and thus
dendro can help enable both
dendro burn-vape and burn-melt teams are a thing
glossy latch
That ... feels unneccessarily complicated
runic ether
its a lot more intuitive as you get into it
but its a boatload to know to actually utilize dendro properly
the reason its complicated is lore
dendro is the element of the god of wisdom
and as a result rewards a deeper understanding of the combat systemm
glossy latch
Ah
runic ether
all elements correspond with their respective archon
anemo = freedom
freedom of movement usually
glossy latch
Still not sure what Swirl does, speaking of Anemo
runic ether
but mobility based buffs and swirl interacts with everything
swirl is also complicated
but not by any fault of its own
rather anemo units are complicated
swirl can pick up any element (there is a priority system on what gets grabbed) and then your anemo character deals that damage through the swirl
ie: lynette's burst
she drops her hat and it taunts enemies and pulls them in towards the hat
the hat can then swirl
and it can infuse the swirl with an element
meaning lynette would be doing say
cryo
since you used kaeya to apply cryo on an enemy
and that cryo aura is swirled by lynette on her burst and skill
and now she is also doing cryo damage
and applying more cryo
this allows anemo units to freely play with any of the infusable elements those being hydro cryo pyro and electro
and anemo characters function as an additonal character of that element
some anemo characters share elemental mastery with the team or damage% bonus based on what is swirled
others are just really really good at applying abilities of a specific element and also not interrupt with other reactions
geo is solid and doesnt care about other elements since its independent
and thus, geo only wants to really be played by itself
mono-geo triple geo or sometimes double geo + 2 universal supports are how geo wants to play
crystalize is the only reaction that matters from geo and it provides shielding based on the element that is crystalized
glossy latch
Basically you get a shield against a certain element?
runic ether
yup
glossy latch
Gotcha
runic ether
% increase on the shield health based on your elemental mastery
glossy latch
I can see why YGO players play Genshin, its the same "this game is for fucking lawyers" nonsense
runic ether
the game gets really fun when its not just unga bunga attack simulators
which is also why i would never subject someone to play physical teams
lol
its there for those who are just into that sort of thing
but lol
glossy latch
Wait physical teams?
runic ether
yep
u can (somewhat) forgoe reactions
and just
click w+m1
superconduct cryo + electro
buffs your physical damage
frankly, there are only 3 real physical dps characters
eula, rosaria, and razor
rosaria is so much better reverse melting or doing fridge hyperbloom
razor is infinitely better doing hyperbloom
eula is the only real real physical dps
mystic python
Forgot Zhongli smh
mystic python
Ye they support his phys damage gameplay smh
runic ether
mika is the only physical support character and hes worse than c5 and below bennett for that
glossy latch
Right
runic ether
if you really wanna w+m1 in the game you can do mono-geo
glossy latch
Why couldnt they have kept elemental stuff simple and just gone for more than 1 skill
runic ether
they wanted the gameplay to actually be fun to go through
there are characters with some decently high skill floors
enemies sometimes apply their own element to themselves and enemies can and will use this system against u
its usually not a threat but it matters
glossy latch
they wanted the gameplay to actually be fun to go through
And Id argue having more skills would do that too
runic ether
oh gone for more than 1 skill
they do
passives
but they do
skill + burst and passives
runic ether
yea and hoyo decided they didnt want their players to have skill issues
glossy latch
Most MMOs do that, including the one good one that existed for a bit
glossy latch
No wait DN had 5
runic ether
some rotations for damage are insanely tight
glossy latch
Shame it shut down
runic ether
for instance: hu tao's damage is capped by how good you are at dash and jump cancels
some characters have a stronger potential if you can dragonstrike
diluc iirc
runic ether
ye
so
if you get high enough in the air through leverage and quickly attack you can do a plunge attack
with very little air time
you can do so off a fair bit of enemies
glossy latch
Oh its basically TK plunge attack
glossy latch
Wild
runic ether
but yea is already an existing technical skill floor for some characters in the game
juggling it with multiple skills to activate + burst would have been a lot for a mobile game
also genshin is supposed to be rather casual and not hard
glossy latch
Makes sense I suppose
Lines up with Star Rail being a very simplified Trails system
runic ether
off the top, hu tao, eula, diluc, xiao, ayato, lyney, ganyu, childe, tighnari, cyno, keqing, haitham are all characters with some important tech to reach damage potential
hu tao has her dash/jump cancels, eula and diluc wanna dragonstrike, xiao ayato ayaka all have optimal combo strings
ganyu lyney and tighnari are charge attack dps characters with range requirements and skill/burst timing windows
haitham keqing and cyno like playing quickswap
which requires a very very tight timing for activating skills, swapping to activate more skills/bursts, and then coming back to them for optimal damage
haitham has like
3 seconds between his burst use -> swap to another character to e/q depending on who it is -> back to him to catch his burst
note: quickswap is impossible for some players
due to ping
haitham quickbloom is one of my favorite teams that some friends of mine literally cannot do bc ping wont let them
glossy latch
Theres no buffering?
runic ether
there is actually
but the timing window is very very tight
there is also a menu option to have a button to let you immediately use burst as you swap
but for haitham, you want to buffer skills
rotations on him for quickbloom involves nahida e q -> yelan/xq eq -> haitham n1 q -> kuki e -> haitham catch his burst n2c x2 -> yelan/xq eq or q if its xq -> haitham e n1c n2c strings
and then back to nahida to start over
on higher ping, you cannot weave in normal attacks here
at really high ping this rotation is just not possible
which is a dps loss
glossy latch
I see
runic ether
speaking of
i think haitham is a character u would likely enjoy
just a hunch
something to look forward to when u get to sumeru
glossy latch
Do you get a guaranteed one, or?
runic ether
nope
hes a limited 5 star
i meant as a character
his gameplay is 100% not for everyone
glossy latch
... define a lot later
runic ether
hmm well
glossy latch
Like, in a few months, in over a year, or?
runic ether
down the line
the last non-standard character to get a rerun
was venti
which was a year ago
but venti is up next
after that is albedo at 11 months then itto at 10
raiden and ayato at 9
xiao at 8
cyno at 7
shenhe and ayaka reran 6 months ago
nahida nilou and baizhu 5 though through leaks we know baizhu reruns in 4.2 with furina
then ganyu at 5
yoimiya and yae miko at 4
haitham and kazuha at 3
eula and klee at 3 as well
kokomi and wanderer at 2
runic ether
on average, characters are about
8-10 months before a rerun
some longer some shorter
if they are super new, they will likely get a rerun during their region's patches
so haitham's next rerun would likely be in about 5-6 months
but neuvilette, lyney, wriothsley and furina will likely get reruns during the 4.x patches
glossy latch
Gotcha
runic ether
i think cyno was the only one that didnt get a rerun during sumeru
and tighnari and dehya were added to the standard banner so they wont get a rerun
oh no
cyno did get a rerun
back with dehya
in 3.5
right lol that patch sucked
dehya is unfortunately not great
glossy latch
The name doesnt mean anything to me
glossy latch
I am (nearly) wholly ignorant of Genshin characters
The only one Im aware of that I havent seen yet is Childe
Because he got buffed or something?
glossy latch
Who was the one who got buffed shortly after release?
runic ether
hes hoyo's favorite kid in genshin
glossy latch
Apparently that was a whole controversy
runic ether
ah iirc
it was yae miko
yae miko was actually nerfed
and then buffed shortly after
she would have likely been nearly unplayable with the initial nerf
but the buff revereted her and they called it a glitch
glossy latch
Huh, weird
runic ether
yea very strange
past that the only other controversial character to release was dehya
a character everyone was really excited for due to sumeru's story
aaaaand her kit was just mid
shes not even like
outright bad
shes just not the pyro dps or off-fielder everyone wanted
it made a lot of ppl call out hoyo for making darker skinned characters bad (shes barely darker skinned) and there was already a fair bit of tension due to sumeru's cast not being brown enough when its a region based off india and the middle-east
at least for playable characters
glossy latch
Cant say Im surprised
runic ether
surely they cant mess it up for natlan
there is hope that the manga natlan characters we saw were all darker skinned
glossy latch
Sadly asian devs are generally not great about that
See also the middle eastern region in FFXVI
mystic python
Who was the one who got buffed shortly after release?
Zhongli had the whole controversy that resulted in multiple buffs to him
ebon quartz
Does anyone know if the Octopath gacha is any good?
mystic python
she would have likely been nearly unplayable with the initial nerf
At the time it was a buff if you knew what you were doing, nerf otherwise. So ofc it was an overall nerf because casual game and people complained enough for it to get reverted
mystic python
Would be understandable if they're sick of the playerbase's constant complaints by now
runic ether
i can see it being an indirect buff such as a character comes out that synergizes with dehya well
kuki and yae both got indirect buffs from dendro
mystic python
All the self-healing chars in Fontaine do help, since part of Dehya's issue was that she's defensive utility but you still need a healer
runic ether
true
i do hear shes fine witu neuv
and solid in mono pyro for lyney
i was gonna try her in furina mona tao since furina mona on maidens with pamber can both get the damage + er + healing required to get high fanfare
unfortunately xq exists and gives the ir needed
toxic cloud
How far are you in? @old galleon
old galleon
How far are you in? <@93446643449331712>
In what?
toxic cloud
FSR
old galleon
Don't have it yet
toxic cloud
understandable
old galleon
Got e6 march on a 10 roll on the standard banner lol
old galleon
yeah it's looking like fu xuan isn't happening, so i'll probably just save for a bit down the line
summer hornet
old galleon
e6 pela is based but otherwise rip
glossy latch
Zero Fu Xuan, zero Lynx, seven Pelas
Me but with Zero Lynx specifically
While I have E6 Hook and E6 Pela
And like 3 duplicates of them
old galleon
still failing to reunite serenoa and frederica, and it's probably not happening now
so i think i'm just gonna start saving
old galleon
hm
does anyone here actually use hook for anything?
not in game right now but iirc mine is e2 and aside from fmc and asta i don't think i have any other fire units at all
but i'm not sure we've really needed pure fire dps yet
summer hornet
If I need fire DPS I use support Himeko
primary use cases are Golden Calyx (EXP farming) and Doomsday Beast
but yeah, I'm pretty sure fire is the emptiest attribute right now lol
or at least a contender
runic ether
hook is a solid dps
especially at e6
i was gonna build her up all the way
but topaz is gonna be my fire carry
though i do have himeko now
i do have a guarantee
old galleon
primary use cases are Golden Calyx (EXP farming) and Doomsday Beast
i use a support seele for exp farming and am probably gonna just use support il for echo of war
at least until i get my own damaging units up to par
runic ether
hsr post 1.5 character spoiler
||hanabi is the masked fool's silliest soldier. fighting the silliest battles.||
glossy latch
Lmao is that real?
runic ether
yes
someone in the hoyo team really is getting mileage out of those disguise glasses
first paimon and now hsr
seems that the character orders will be
1.5: huohuo + argenti with hanya
||1.6: dr ratio + ruan mei
1.7: hanabi + screwllum or sam/firefly?||
runic ether
||dr ratio is a scholar and teacher of the intelligensia guild.||
glossy latch
Huh
runic ether
||pretty sure he is imaginary. either erudition or the hunt||
||hanabi is quantum harmony||
||her skill increases an ally's hp + atk for 2 rounds and advance forwards. if used on herself she wont advance forward. ult restores 4 skill points. any extra past the cap is held as temporary skill points max 2. allies also gain a mask that increases hanabi's talent effect for 2 turns. her talent increases ally damage when they consume skill points. cannot stack. her technique restores 1 skill point at the start of battle. if full, gain 1 temp skill point||
with this in mind i may actually pull jingliu hmm
but in any case
||she completes mono quantum and is easily one of the most busted characters in the game.||
yeah i think im settled. gonna get jingliu, finish up hook and then get ||hanabi since i forgot she has a max hp increase which makes her great for destruction characters.||
versed pawn
||Who is Dr Ratio?||
I dont know but I know the memes allready 
runic ether
yelan piece
this brings me to 68.9/175.2 crit ratio
and 173.8% burst
i still have an awful sands and goblet
so i can 100% squeeze out some more good subs out of that
runic ether
oh shit screenshot of possible story spoiler
hsr
||black swan and sampo are hanging out with hanabi||
||very likely in penacony||
||unknown if they fought her and won or if they found her||
||i know black swan was very serious in that trailer. but i would love if sampo hanabi and black swan were a very silly trio||
astral drift
void cargo
nice specific release date
summer hornet
NA HSR people, should I put Silver Wolf or Dan Hung on my support?
Started with SW, and over time the amount of currency I got started going up. Then I switched to Dan Heng IL once his traces were complete (Silver Wolf's Talent and Ult are still level 9), and my support income went down as a result
mystic python
Could probably just go through the support list and see what's less popular; gonna assume there are a lot of DHILs so ur less likely to get randomly picked, compared to if people were looking for a SW to try
It's just a handful of credits in the end so doesn't really matter much tbh
summer hornet
Fair enough, aye
simple wind
Did not expect to wake up to Mario Calliope announcing a stream of the gacha game that literally got me where I am online today (battle cats)
slow raft
Holy shit, reclmation algorithm is so fun
summer hornet
FINALLY got Oberon to Bond 6
man was holding his full profile over my head like fish bait
old galleon
i haven't really done much with arknights the last several months but this is a neat clear
namie using her children to risk 18
summer hornet
based af
just finished reading through the Grand Unified Theory CHALDEA and I don't want to look at anything Fate (or TYPE-MOON in general honestly) for a good 12-24 hours
Legitimately, I think I'm going to go outside for a bit
old galleon
touching grass is a good remedy for an overdose of nasuverse bullshit
runic ether
yoooooooooo
old galleon
just got alfyn on a general pool pull lmao
so between the cyrus spook on the triangle strategy banner and now getting alfyn, that's 2 really good 5*
void cargo
got him before i even got np5 mandricardo
void cargo
why
old galleon
bc tha'ts when you unlock habetrot in fp pool
void cargo
is she the only story locked fp servant?
old galleon
so far, yes
you get one copy for free from clearing lb6
you need to roll the other four copies
the odds are......bad
void cargo
she is the only 4 star in this banner then
old galleon
nope
void cargo
not?
void cargo
oh
thought she was story banner
so ive got angra before saber lily
the odds must be really bad
old galleon
it took me around 2 million fp to get 4 copies of habetrot, but i also got several copies of lily in that run
iirc i got like one angry boi
void cargo
i would be happier with habetrot than angra
old galleon
i np5'd him years ago, got pretty lucky in doing so
well yeah, angra is one of the few servants in the game i can say sucks for most purposes
there is some content where you can get use out of him but it's some really gimmicky stuff
void cargo
i np5'd him years ago, got pretty lucky in doing so
will you keep future copies?
old galleon
but he has a neat interlude you have to get him to bond 10 for, so
void cargo
doesnt his np trigger on next turn?
old galleon
end of that turn iirc
it's sorta like a counter but instead of doing meaningful damage like bazett's, it's flat damage but very low since it works off his flat hp
void cargo
bruh only 100% damage on all enemies
old galleon
it sees use in things like the crab challenge quest from one of the early summer events
since they have extremely high damage mitigation
void cargo
but something like emiya with ignore def would work better i think
old galleon
but most other purposes, he's a gimmicky servant where you use him if you like him, but better options exist
void cargo
i think even on lvl 120 with np5 he would just get outclassed by most lvl 90 servants
old galleon
but something like emiya with ignore def would work better i think
ignore def doesn't ignore damage mitigation
emiya ain't doing shit there
basically, you'd want things that do flat damage
stuff like angra's np, divinity passive, lancelot's np debuff, etc
but that's a cq for an event long since passed
there's a player who clears all major content with phantom of the opera
i shouldn't need to tell you how much phantom sucks in the current game
but he's made it all the way to lb6 doing that
point being, someone who's dedicated enough could probably do the same with angra
but yeah
and if you're talking level 90 servants, that's only 5* unless you're grailing lower rarities there, so yeah
every 5* in the game is better than angra in pretty much every relevant case
i'd still keep him, though; same deal as everyone else, you get bond quartz
he's a 0* who's treated like a 2* for purposes of party cost but a 4* in terms of bond rewards
so you get 2 quartz from bonds 6-9
and ofc bond 10 unlocks his interlude
so putting him in the back to bond grind is actually really good value
he's cheap to add but gets better rewards than his rarity would suggest
the only better bond grind value atm is ||mash post-lb6||
astral drift
wow i really need to get some arrowheads and crowns before the halloween event
ebon quartz
Third character maxed out ๐ช
I just wish there was a better way to level up relics lmao
Also I'm so strapped for credits...
ebon quartz
Yeah I was rushing through and trying to upgrade fast.
I need to take aa few days to grind credits.
runic ether
today is last day of double rewards for credits
astral drift
Is she the Essex of blue archive
old galleon
essex retrofit when
astral drift
i would reinstall if they release a retrofit for her
copper steppe
ceo of sex
versed pawn
In sitting at 9 mil credits
Money stacks uo like crazy since I hit 70
Also that jinni quest in genshin was something else
old galleon
Finally got a sim universe world 7 clear
glossy latch
This tells me nothing about how it plays
old galleon
1.4 pre download is up
slow raft
Cutting it a bit close so i had to pull out the overkill
runic ether
furina changes
burst changes
skill dmg: 31.5% -> 20.5% max hp
energy: 70 -> 60
cooldown: 18s -> 15s
duration is the same (100% uptime)
max stacks: 450 -> 300
fanfare to damage ratio increases from .22% to .25%
also c2 and c6 were swapped
c3 and c5 swapped
c2 is now kinda fucked in a sense
fanfare increase or decrease in character hp is increased by 200%. each fanfare above the limit increases her max hp by .4% and her max hp increase is 140%
but she is strictly an off-fielder until c6
the bigger nerf is c3 and c5 swap meaning that pursuing c3 for the skill increase is now dead since its c5
her skill was also buffed
she now drains exactly 50% hp in 20 seconds
usher drains 2.4%, chevalmarin 1.6%, and crabaletta drains 3.6%
man is maiden's beloved pamber mona actually gonna be meta with furina
lmfao
characters with innate hp manip in their kit like neuv or wriothsley will also be able to run with a single target healer like kuki or yaoyao
200 fanfare is 50% dmg bonus so 300 is a pretty sizable dmg bonus which gives a ton of value to running healers
er reqs:
solo hydro 187 in 20s rotation, 168 in 20s
double hydro is 165 and 129 respectively
festering desire and fleuve cendre ferryman get better with her as they can meet the er reqs a lot more comfortably allowing her to build her other stats through subs
hp/hp/cr easily
late canopy
What's a festering desire, sounds like lost hopes and dreams
late canopy
Nope never heard of it
runic ether
it was stuck as a super niche sword
late canopy
I tried looking through my memory
runic ether
since it had er substat
runic ether
and skill dmg and skill crit% up
ebon quartz
Thanks I hate it
runic ether
yeah hm overall buff for furina
somehow this makes her personal sword a bit better since er reqs go down a lot
but it also keeps it awkward for her as solo hydro
though her solo hydro potential was awkward from the start since her hydro app is on the slower side and a bit inconsistent
late canopy
60 burst mucho comfy
Off the top of my head for bursts like that I like 150% and usually nice and comfy
runic ether
er reqs:
solo hydro 187 in 20s rotation, 168 in 20s
double hydro is 165 and 129 ...
her burst calc is here
unfort she does not generate a lot of energy for herself
late canopy
Ye that's what I figured once I saw those numbers
Cuz with 60 burst cost needing that kind of ER
Abnormally high
runic ether
c1 value and c2 value are kinda stupid good
but
they dont help her on-field at all
and c3 value dropped like a rock all things considered
also 4.4 will very likely be a liyue patch now for sure
late canopy
Honestly as long as she can pelt stuff reliably for hydro off field for people who can't use xinqiu or yelan for whatever reason then im happy
runic ether
ganyu and xingqiu are likely to get skins that patch
runic ether
Honestly as long as she can pelt stuff reliably for hydro off field for people w...
it is not
her cds on hydro app are per summon
and they have each a standard icd
so her hydro app is not enough for teams that need a consistent hydro aura like xq or yelan can provide
oh shit zhongli skin
not revealed but it is in production