Today's last day
#Gacha Chat
digital marlin
turbid olive
Yup.
Spent all my wisdom cubes too except for 2 more pulls.
Dunno if it'll happen with those two more pulls, but I gotta get more coins
turbid olive
True, I'm not gonna get enough pts for that ticket anyway to exchange for Yume, so I'll just get the gear instead.
old galleon
to be clear, there's a bunch of gear, including augments and princess gear, in the shop
the ones you're looking for are the following
Battle Tracto Max
Buster Borr
Sky Vitter
Gridman Calibur
i think they cost 2k each
the battle tracto corresponds to her gun, the buster borr her torps, the sky vitter her anti-air gun, and the gridman calibur doesn't seem to correspond to non-aux gear, but still provides benefits
also hopefully you got her augment from milestones
summer hornet
not sure how many boxes, but I've opened one and have 5k lotto currency
copper steppe
unfortunally i do not have a good aoe buster archer so i have to take one from support lists
i really need to get ishtar or gil
summer hornet
Napo has a 6-turn 30% battery, and Tesla has a 6-turn 50% battery
Plus Napoleon deals bonus damage to Divine enemies
turbid olive
also hopefully you got her augment from milestones
How many pts do I need for her milestone augment?
Or is it an augment I can only equip once she reaches Tier 3?
honest pawn
gaaaah
I need to do more farming
I need to farm a shinjuku node for mystic spine fluid for koyanskaya skill, then I need to farm for dragon fangs for melusine, then I need to farm the event
slow raft
Medea actually did to much damage to ever do buff removal so i couldve brought any other dps caster instead, but i did this in one shot
Ublimited stall works
versed pawn
I fault epic 7 
long tree
It is always valid to blame epic 7
copper steppe
second ce drop lfg
long tree
Even if it has nothing to do with epic 7
slow raft
you guys are getting ce drops?
honest pawn
yeah I got like 3
versed pawn
It is always valid to blame epic 7
It's because the game has pvp and requires to 24/7 to roll good stats
slow raft
im at box 7 and i ahvent had one yet
long tree
It's just cause the game is doodoo tbh
versed pawn
And now I have the same gear System 
old galleon
How many pts do I need for her milestone augment?
if you already have it, then you're fine; you can't equip augments until mlb
if you don't already have it, you'll need to get it
her augment comes at 15k event currency milestone
(you don't need to buy it)
versed pawn
Can we pls have more of those refined resin things I get 20 of those in epic 7 per month 
3 more pieces for arlan and I make him work 
summer hornet
Len, your descriptions get worse
astral drift
idle grove
dare i ask
honest pawn
Len, your descriptions get worse
on discord or fgo
copper steppe
on discord or fgo
honest pawn
WHYYY
honest pawn
I'm grinding event boxes for the servant gems
almost have enough gems for junao, just gotta round up some more to max Karna's 2nd Append
but at least I got this
honest pawn
I have a bodhisattva waiting for arash
say
if I do the lotto 60 more rotations I can get a maxed out bond CE
long tree
glossy latch
Good old Scampo Koski
turbid olive
Time to give up on Yume.
Got so many Namiko and Hass it's ridiculous. Do I scrap the extras or keep them?
old galleon
use them to limit break
once you get mlb, trash any extras
same basically applies for every other ship in the game
you keep one, use their dupes to mlb, and for rare or higher ships, you retire any extras after that for medals
for commons, you use them to enhance stats
turbid olive
Ohh, I see. I should retire the rares or higher that I don't need, and use the commons for enhancing. Got it. :0
old galleon
i recommend keeping one of every ship you get for collection and fleet tech
note that collab ships don't contribute either
turbid olive
I do, though I often run out of space as I lock every unique ship kekw
I have a ton of Bulins though.
old galleon
but, they're collab ships, so the next chance to get them is ???
yeah bulins exist to substitute for dupes
purple ones especially are practically handed out like candy
gold ones are a bit more limited but realistically you'll have more than enough over time
turbid olive
True that. We don't know when they'll release the next Gridman anime that could bring a rerun.
old galleon
this is already a rerun
and there isn't much precedent for collab reruns; the only one they've done so far is the doa rerun
so this one makes 2
we don't know if it'll be rerun again in the future
global is caught up to cn and jp in almost every way, except for being a little behind on war archives
so we don't get clairvoyance
turbid olive
Ayyy! Farming 3-4 paid off!
old galleon
i really wouldn't recommend camping in 3-4 too much
the foxes are too hard to get and better options that are easier to get exist
when the game launched i took a month or so to finally get both of them, and back then they were okay
but as testament to what i just said, i haven't used them in serious stuff in literally years
they're both sitting at like 112 and i have dozens of ships at 120+
turbid olive
old galleon
one of the big problems is the restriction on formation
you really want to run both together, which only gives you one other space in your backline
and both have a confirmed .75% drop rate each
it's too much effort for too little gain, compared to just, for example, grabbing saratoga, retrofitting her, getting her augment
you have one great ship at that point
old galleon
same boat
i can at least 6ce but i only have the one mlb still
you're still getting +8 since you have 2 mlb, so it evens out
sour tendon
ig the extra gold drop atm isnt awful
it adds up
the battery ce is so unnecessary though
digital marlin
the battery ce is so unnecessary though
man times have changed
sour tendon
card is red dinky 1 enemy wave is dead
old galleon
well 90+ is its own change
remember, the first one we got of those was sometime last year
man this streamer's already at like 125 boxes and i'm sitting on 15 or so
sour tendon
i think its kinda funny that the devs spent so much time pushing looping as the way to combat hard content with high hp full waves of enemies and then theyre like "but what if there is just one enemy so you cant loop it" but at in a way its just designing waves in a way that we would have seen as easier in the early years of the game
old galleon
must be nice being able to devote all day to the grind
sour tendon
i once did 350
old galleon
i think its kinda funny that the devs spent so much time pushing looping as the ...
this would be true, except in the early years of the game, enemy hp wasn't nearly as inflated as it is now
long tree
When does nerofest end btw
sour tendon
yeah just 1 mil have fun bring obie
sour tendon
whats the next type
old galleon
next 90+ is archers iirc
sour tendon
cool ill just use artoria then
long tree
so you'll need to build new comps
Will I though
ebon quartz
Oh hey I can beat the one with the oni god pretty consistently with Morgan.
sour tendon
same comp
old galleon
aight i got it up
r2 90+ is the following
wave 1: 67k archer
wave 2: 133k archer, 68k archer
wave 3: 101k archer, 180k archer
sour tendon
that looks arts loopable
old galleon
waves 1 and 2 are all wild beasts, wave 3 is all servants
sour tendon
ez
old galleon
ye, melt has by far the easiest time of the bunch
sour tendon
well 1/1/1 archer waves are arts loopable if you have pengu
old galleon
percival and fionn have to go through extra hoops
sour tendon
i think just to use my buster servants ill probably keep buster farming with lancer artoria
old galleon
all the buster comps i'm seeing have to card, but i'm pretty sure there should be ways to clean np
sour tendon
carding is consistent and saves time
slow raft
surelyi can simply loop with erice, thatll definitely be sonsitent (clueless)
i can probably try fionn, i dont really have anything to support parvati
honest pawn
spoilered bc the last servant isn't in NA yet but after the Saber Alter Incident of 2 days ago I guess that makes her the best choice for me on this ticket
old galleon
depends on your needs and what you have access to
doesn't do you a lot of good to get salter for looping if you don't have the tools to make her work
honest pawn
all I need is le oberon and I'm saving up for him for the end of next year
yeah this checks out
I remember I got my first copy of salter way back in 2020 for the FGO Babylonia Anime release campaign thingy
with the SR ticket
long tree
What the hell is that last servants class?
digital marlin
What the hell is that last servants class?
||PRetender||
old galleon
pretender
long tree
Ah
long tree
NGL salter seems too good to pass here
old galleon
the pretender class isn't spoilers
long tree
I think once it gets featured on a banner it's fair game
digital marlin
understood
old galleon
that's how i see it anyway
honest pawn
now the real spoiler would be the ||sex|| class
old galleon
actual spoiler, lb7 shit ||the circumstances behind one big spider||
copper steppe
now the real spoiler would be the ||sex|| class
honest pawn
I just noticed from Junao's banner in March to Oberon's banner in December there's a huge 9 month gap between the two where I'm not interested in any of the banners that pop up
and there's a couple Castoria rateups in the interim
there shouldn't be any shame in dropping a couple multis just to see if I can get her, right?
long tree
there shouldn't be any shame in dropping a couple multis just to see if I can ge...
I wish you luck man
honest pawn
thank you
summer hornet
Wait, when you say 9 month gap from Junao to Oberon
Are you not rolling for next year’s summer? Or am I messing up the dates
honest pawn
Are you not rolling for next year’s summer? Or am I messing up the dates
nope
nothing in summer nor anni interests me
I'm all in on junao and oberon
6 months from here to March I can save up SQ, and then from then on I have 9 months to save up
long tree
What even is summer this year
long tree
Ez skips
honest pawn
next year is ruler skadi and ||proto merlin||
long tree
Isn't summer ibuki cracked?
old galleon
she can be run as the combat uniform option for arc looping
astral drift
shes so good i use her in st scenarios despite her np being aoe
old galleon
ordeal call farming o.o
summer hornet
Summer Ibuki-Douji has more looping power than Summer Musashi, but also is able to send a significant portion of that power to other units- which lets her function as a hybrid support/DPS for multi attacker setups
It's quite disgusting
ebon quartz
Bladie is at lvl 80 now
summer hornet
Ayyyy
ebon quartz
His damage is insane, really happy with that crit rate and damage lmao
digital marlin
His damage is insane, really happy with that crit rate and damage lmao
I know right
honest pawn
ping me when the Karna buff comes
digital marlin
Nice
sour tendon
im big saving for summer ibuki now
toxic cloud
mood
old galleon
ez
(this one's the easier of the two umu cq's)
one more lore accepted
doing gil cq next
and to that i say, pyon
pyonpyon (argor's translation: ez)
that makes all of them done except the hassans, medb, and nero hard
summer hornet
Took down Medb and Easy Nero tonight myself lol; it really is fascinating how much the game has changed the past five years
LB6 Act 2 ||it's interesting how much the CQ reflects Mab and Cnoc na Riab's Clan technique...||
LB6 Act 3 ||and it makes me feel bad about how she went out even more 
||
Also HECK YEAH, welcome back Ren! glad you joined us in time to break your back in the Nero Fest coal mines
toxic cloud
Also HECK YEAH, welcome back Ren! ~~glad you joined us in time to break your bac...
i'm back aye 
taking it a bit slow though
also want to work on lb6
old galleon
karnabros won
his battery is now 30% flat, gained a big star bomb, and increased the potency of the crit buffs
the 4* assassin strengthening is for okita
which added a battery and np gain buff on her s3, but didn't remove the demerit
Saber Alter
Jaguar Man
Bradamante
William Tell
Minamoto-no-Raikou
Hans Christian Andersen
Karna
Okita J. Souji
5* caster
4* lancer
5* foreigner
3* rider
5* archer
4* saber
old galleon
ping me when the Karna buff comes
you're welcome
toxic cloud
honest pawn
you're welcome
HAHAAAAA
thank you
I would've enjoyed a small attack up as well but I can't complain
excuse me what is it called
AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE GETS 40 STARS
I'm happy with this buff
and I hope he gets another one sooner rather than later for his second or third skill
honest pawn
(3rd one)
honest pawn
is this le arknight?
astral drift
idle grove
astral drift
thanks for the tickets
summer hornet
SO much easier using Amakusa instead of trying to fight all the assassins with someone like Medea
slow raft
slow raft
honest pawn
nvm I understand why they went with a simpler buff
giving karna general attack up would break his damage ceiling through the roof
old galleon
Q : Now to the questions about the “Bond Craft Essences” you get when reaching Bond level 10. First of all, when is the “opportunity” (to use the CEs) you said in last year’s interview going to be implemented?
Kanou : That will be implemented at quite some time in the future. However it will beneficial for players to keep collecting them in the meantime. And I agree that, as it is currently, more buffs are needed for Bond CEs to become possible choices when forging strategies.
Q : For now, the number of Bond CEs that are actually used is extremely limited and most of them simply become decorations in Second Archive. As a user this fact makes me feel a little bit lonely.
Kanou : We have a plan to implement contents that will allow players to utilize a variety of Bond CEs. They will definitely become useful so we advise you to start collecting them now.
Q : If that’s the case, won’t players who don’t have Bond CEs get powercrept?
Kanou : This is not the case about “If you don’t have them it will be difficult”, but rather “People who have them will progress more smoothly”.
Q : So it’s similar to how Bond levels give out a bonus buff in Solomon Chapter? If so then does it mean that this time there will be bigger bonuses?
Kanou : It’s difficult to compare both cases but, strategically speaking, this one might indeed be bigger. It’s our intention wanting players to raise as many servants to Bond 10 as possible.
Q : So is this the reason why Ordeal Call FQs give out so much Bond Points?
Kanou : Correct. Please utilize them and deepen bonds with your servants to your heart’s content.
o.o
Q : Will there be any additional implementation intended to further help users raising bonds?
Kanou : That will depend on how smoothly players raise bonds. Well, since I have said this I’m little scared that you guys might start to intentionally stop raising bonds (lol). However, it’s fully our intention for everyone to steadily keep raising the bonds by doing quests with your servants regularly. By the way, we just also implemented the system that gives out bonus Bond Points to starting member servants. Please refer to the “Buddy System” from last year’s Valentine for reference.
Q : To be honest having to put them as the starting members feels a little bit off, as many servants aren’t suitable to be put there.
Kanou : It’s indeed troublesome, but still, (getting bonus while) putting them in the backline is still no go. To conquer the Bleached Earth, I think that it’s absolutely necessary for players to properly think about their team compositions, hence it’s our intention for this system to spark discussions like “What should I do/what is the optimal team comps if I want to raise servant A’s BP (by putting them in a starting member slot)?”. This is our rough stance on the system : If you emphasize convenience then you can still do it the current ways, but if there are specific servant(s) you want to effectively utilize this bonus, you have to put a lot more thoughts in your playing.
Q : By the way, is there any plan to add more benefits for people who reach Bond level 15?
Kanou : We are currently have no plan about it for now. Our intention is for the players to use as many servants as possible and raise their Bond Point simultaneously rather than keep raising bonds on a few “main” servants forever. With that we hope that new discoveries will be found so please focus more on raising bonds on the servants you haven’t really touched.
||Why are you smiling about it? (laughs) But you could control U-Olga Marie in battles. Is there any plan to make her playable?||
||Nasu: No, that one was made as an LB7-exclusive character. It's because of this exclusivity that the gameplay side allowed her to have those AoE attacks that Servants don't have. Having or not having this kind of surprise makes a huge difference for immersion. Also, because the opponents appearing in LB7 are lore-wise invincible, U-Olga Marie's ability to distribute Invul Pierce to everyone is the backup you need before you can even think about fighting the way you want. There are some scenes where you're screwed if you don't put U-Olga Marie in your party, but if you're paying attention to the story, you'll know when.||
translation: ||u-olga marie will be playable, we just don't know when yet||
||She wanted to absorb ORT. Would she succeed if she was in perfect health?||
||Nasu: In a 1-v-1 situation, with no outside interference, she would. I mean, she's our Earth Silhouette, you know?||
that's frightening
astral drift
To conquer the Bleached Earth, I think that it’s absolutely necessary for players to properly think about their team compositions
slow raft
idle grove
me wondering what happened to my NA fgo account
just logged into bluestacks before I wipe it to free up space
oh there it is
time to write down the bind code and forget for another year
or maybe I should actually use it
nothing good on that acc though like at all
idle grove
sure
slow raft
Easiest 3 turn of my life
idle grove
oh wait
i forgot what this account had NVM LMAO
this account went slightly sicko mode at one point
ok I capped I remembered what this account used to be like
this is fine
summer hornet
I was wondering lol
summer hornet
Yeah, Castoria/Muramasa/Irisviel/Ridertoki alone is A+
Jeanne, Summer BB, Summer Mordred, Assassin Ryougi Shiki, Berserker Vlad…
summer hornet
I only have NP2 Muramasa
slow raft
same
old galleon
me, with np1 muramasa
ebon quartz
I hope Jeanne gets a buff or something so Castoria isn't just leagues above her.
slow raft
Still rather easy, even if its not a 3t
idle grove
it would probably have to be the most insane buff ever
ebon quartz
I mean Jeanne has a bit of a niche actually, just Castorias invuln is leagues better than Jeannes.
Let Jeanne also have the invuln Castoria has and I think it's a step in the right direction.
Castoria buffs attack, Jeanne already applies a regen.
honest pawn
just make jeanne a solo servant
ebon quartz
simply give her multiple turn teamwide buff removal resist on a skill
Oh that could work as well.
I just want an excuse to be justified using my np 2 Jeanne lmao
honest pawn
you wanna know what's funny
I have an np2 jalter lol
I wish they'd give her a battery
copper steppe
i do not have jalter
honest pawn
tho that'd probably break her
honest pawn
I have an np1 jeanne I got while rolling for koyan
copper steppe
buff block is rare
ebon quartz
I've been using Morgan to farm Nero fest with Jalter as a back up to deal with single target stuff.
ebon quartz
Probably doing it wrong but in the 90+ node I've been going
Wave 1 just chain cards and beat up the thing.
Wave 2 Roadless Camelot, pick off survivors
Wave 3 use all the buffs to get Morgans np guage back up and Roadless Camelot again.
astral drift
I wish they'd give her a battery
I'd rather add c star per turn or star bomb to her first skill
Or a guts
honest pawn
she's already got a pretty hefty star bomb on her NP doe
but I see your point
it's just kinda frustrating to rely on face cards for your NP gain
admittedly, if you get an arts crit and an extra card with her she'll regen a lot
ebon quartz
Also if she gets hit.
ebon quartz
Speaking of crits, I always laugh when Morgan's buster crit hits harder than her np.
summer hornet
Just buster things TM
honest pawn
WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GET THOSE
honest pawn
Speaking of crits, I always laugh when Morgan's buster crit hits harder than her...
I can't believe we live in a world where the Buster meme has returned
slow raft
WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GET THOSE
heian-kyo or the shop
astral drift
Speaking of crits, I always laugh when Morgan's buster crit hits harder than her...
Also true for jannu
ebon quartz
I can't believe we live in a world where the Buster meme has returned
JALTER IS THE SAME WAY
honest pawn
I need 24 pure prisms desu ne
summer hornet
half the time Ishtar's buster crits do as much damage as her NP because of her crit-boosting charisma skill
ebon quartz
Oh the useless Goddess who almost doomed all of human history and therefore gets no rights.
honest pawn
wouldn't be surprised if he snatches it from arjuna
summer hornet
she's already the best AOE buster archer aside from Gil lmao
I love her but she does not need a buff
honest pawn
what about ||tametomo||
summer hornet
what about ||tametomo||
technically he gets more damage? But it's even more conditional than Ishtar's delayed attack buff
honest pawn
hm
I'll admit I may have neglected ishtar a bit
I'll max out her charge skill as penance
summer hornet
again, I've been using her to effortlessly annihilate this first round of NeroFest
She has 50% battery, party attack and crit buffs on one skill, a delayed 50% attack buff that can be reused every turn in a double koyan setup, preemptive buster up before NP damage and 20 stars afterwards
astral drift
also cute
ebon quartz
She still gets no rights
old galleon
daily reminder that depriving your local useless goddess of her rights is an offense punishable by an eternity in the underworld
ebon quartz
She shouldn't have lost the bull of heaven >:c
old galleon
||she didn't lose it, she just had it forcibly extracted by her other half||
summer hornet
Literally, ||her strange fake counterpart took the bull to terrorize Sheffield||
ebon quartz
Yeah I know
No rights allowed!
Because she's so useless she got Gil killed, and Uruk trashed.
old galleon
Literally, ||her strange fake counterpart took the bull to terrorize Sheffield||
||this ain't britain||
ebon quartz
summer hornet
Because she's so useless she got Gil killed, and Uruk trashed.
You are almost as big of a Gil simp as Pekora lol
astral drift
Because she's so useless she got Gil killed, and Uruk trashed.
good
copper steppe
got 4k petals, gonna try to reach 5k to roll the lotto
old galleon
first run of the day
brain fart, bring castoria instead of koyanskaya
still 3 turn due to card luck
ebon quartz
You are almost as big of a Gil simp as Pekora lol
Hey I just value my king.
But value my queen a lot more.
old galleon
is your queen angelica?
idle grove
old galleon
she has the biggest shit-eating grin and i love it
honest pawn
Hey I just value my king.
But value my queen a lot more.
and I value my BERSERKER RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
idle grove
old galleon
i'm only a couple runs off of 20 boxes now
really not where i wanted to be at the end of this round, but it's kind of unavoidable
astral drift
https://twitter.com/takuqx/status/1687099951145508864?s=20
the cutest ascension
honest pawn
next round's gonna be a bit hard for me to 3-turn but I'll try to optimize it
copper steppe
time to roll
copper steppe
https://twitter.com/takuqx/status/1687099951145508864?s=20
also
old galleon
next round's gonna be a bit hard for me to 3-turn but I'll try to optimize it
round 2 np only 3 turn is basically a lambda check
you can do other stuff but leviathan makes it a lot easier
old galleon
also
yelling "you shall not pass" as i do my best gandalf impression
21 boxes, taking a break for now
copper steppe
on box 14
summer hornet
2 boxes opened and 7000 lotto currency remain unused
plus another event CE drop
is it 600 or 800 per box?
astral drift
600
copper steppe
considering that you have about 11 boxes in total
summer hornet
D'Arvit
I gotta find a way to step up my game, then
Ending up with about 30 boxes isn't bad, but I'd like to hit closer to 50
astral drift
i stocked up enough magatama from the 90+ node, saving apples for r2 and 3
idle grove
astral drift
im so worried that kuro will be made a welfare again
summer hornet
Odysseus+Circe event just barely managed to make it onto the list
honest pawn
what's Lilim Harlot?
summer hornet
The Arcade collab event
honest pawn
oh
summer hornet
I'm... definitely surprised it ranked so high ngl
honest pawn
...wait is that welfare ||cu caster lily||
astral drift
i didnt get the hype, but then again i'm not a nero fan
astral drift
...wait is that welfare ||cu caster lily||
setanta
summer hornet
...wait is that welfare ||cu caster lily||
Setana, yep. Arcade character that finally crossed into the mobile game proper
He's not the greatest, but I will be grailing him
honest pawn
I have needs
astral drift
i think it's recency bias or seraph would rank higher
idle grove
I'm inclined to agree
old galleon
He's not the greatest, but I will be grailing him
i'm kinda harsh on how they did his kit
i feel like he got shafted
he's not the worst welfare in the game by a long shot, but he's a 4* cu variant and doesn't really feel any better than cu, probably worse
(imo worst welfare in the game right now is probably chacha)
summer hornet
I agree, he was definitely kinda shafted
old galleon
his 2 should have had 30% quick instead of 20%; wild beast niche is really neat but i'm not sure there's a lot of exploitable wild beast content for him
and his 3 shouldn't be percentage rate for success
that we're doing this in 2023 is just silly
also there's the obvious direct comparison to santa karna, both being st quick sabers
(spoiler alert: i would say s karna is a bit better)
old galleon
mine's np1 bc i didn't feel in the mood to do the grind that christmas
but i also knew there was a rerun ahead (next year, not this year), so he'll eventually get np5
old galleon
ye
old galleon
was it a strengthening quest or his most recent interlude?
summer hornet
Strengthening, not the interlude
old galleon
giving him that interlude early would have been hilarious
summer hornet
To be fair, iirc that strengthening was originally tied to his Melty Blood release
So it’s kinda funny in a different sense
astral drift
Thanks evolution championship series 2023
old galleon
apparently the interlude requires clearing tunguska
so they couldn't have given it to us this early anyway
but ||i want people to suffer beating (nerfed) cernunnos a second time||
astral drift
I'll have to upgrade his append skill 2 when I get the mats
What's a good 50% ce to give him
honest pawn
dantes?
old galleon
traces of christmases past is probably the best one
honest pawn
I'm pretty sure you can
he has a 50% NP gain up on his S2
you only need to hit 50% np first loop
assuming double skadi ofc
old galleon
loop spreadsheet indicates bg 2x s skadi and either oberon or og skadi with combat uniform
astral drift
old galleon
idk how much overkill is needed so idk how well it works on beefier nodes
but it is possible on paper
old galleon
correct
can't wait to get it so i can stop hemorrhaging mc exp on my combat uniform that's been level 10 for 5 years
astral drift
It's incredibly hard to level up
astral drift
old galleon
it'll actually take time to fully level
astral drift
I've been almost exclusively using it since it dropped
copper steppe
plugsuit 2 looks nice
honest pawn
at the very least it's not 2004 where you'd actually need it to be max level for some loopers
copper steppe
mine is almost fully leveled
old galleon
ye a bunch of arts loopers want level 10 2004 to maximize np gains
copper steppe
the og one i mean
old galleon
og one has higher scaling than most mystic codes but it still levels fairly quickly considering how often combat uniform gets used
the newer one has the scaling of the arctic mystic code, so you need like 155 million exp or something
for comparison combat uniform, mage's association, and atlas institute only need around 70m each
copper steppe
gonna last a while then
old galleon
and then just about every other mc in the game only needs around 9 million
sour tendon
i dont get wanting it to take longer to level up
the benefits of level scaling on MCs is very good
old galleon
the stun's level doesn't matter, the swap's level doens't matter, and the offensive buffs on teh only remaining skill are fine enough even when still leveling it that it not being level 10 won't make a real difference
and in the case of the newer plug, the heal's level isn't relevant in farming
personally i wish they'd all be at around that 9 million exp to get to level 10, but that's not the world we live in
two in one day
overall plan is gonna be to get kear up to par, but that'll take a while
so short term, chkalov is higher priority
summer hornet
I am no longer able to run Emiya in the backline for bond due to the extra event bonus CE
But if I use Oberon, I'm pretty sure I can use Ishtar without a starting charge CE
I've been holding off on Ascending him till I cleared LB6... BUT I am willing to level up his skills for this specific scenario
slow raft
Like 3
long tree
Is Nero fest giving us 3?
honest pawn
I'm p sure you typically get 2 lore per event
but the 2nd needs you to do a fair bit of grind
I have a prediction for the foreigner buff
||koyanskaya of dark||
summer hornet
How tf you got so much crystallized lore
Feels weird to think about, but I have been playing for like 5+ years
long tree
I used my only lore to get koyans np buff to 10
honest pawn
except mine, who is 10/x/7
gonna need to rectify that soon
and just get a lot of pure prisms
summer hornet
What's the gatekeeping material for that level?
honest pawn
Mystic Spinal Fluid
just barely managed to scrape together 15 for the previous skill level
summer hornet
Gotta get back to Shinjuku, then
slow raft
Only took 19 boxes
honest pawn
congrats
idle grove
I hope the foreigner is hokusai
honest pawn
I hope it's ||koyandark|| just because
slow raft
Clearly its gogh
summer hornet
Not really? She's kinda the first foreigner of her kind, not including summer Abby
honest pawn
I mean for just overall quality/kit bloat
summer hornet
She's also the most recent Foreigner, and the one with the greatest power in lore
honest pawn
that's true but you're also forgetting another buster aoe foreigner
honest pawn
if she was it'd certainly make me feel better about her situation
here comes the fun part
predictions on which Caster gets the buff?
I wouldn't mind if Miss Crane got it but it's probably Scheherazade, Shikibu, or Anastasia
old galleon
Clearly its gogh
aside from you know who, she's the one foreigner who doesn't need it
i'm predicting yang guifei
this is just a barghest flex in disguise lol
idle grove
copper steppe
lmfao
https://twitter.com/FateSR_Official/status/1687037044709830656?t=J0CnqmBqT...
who it is i wonder
copper steppe
got bageko and sith to final ascension
honest pawn
hrm
I am... conflicted
I wanna pull for Arjuna Alter
but
||Koyanskaya of Dark looks so cool||
but I'd need to invest a lot into them to get their numbers up
and it's not like they have multiple rate-ups over the course of the next year; as far as I can tell, new year's is their only banner
astral drift
Koyan dark is pretty useful for tonelico
honest pawn
as in the servant or the ||enemy||
digital marlin
what does your heart say
astral drift
Servant on the same team
Tonelico np overcharge effect is reduce her s3 cool down
Koyan dark has targeted np overcharge on a skill
astral drift
Fox is cuter anyway
honest pawn
TRUE
honest pawn
insert werewolf tearing his shirt image here
copper steppe
gonna try to get ryouma lancer
honest pawn
good luck
copper steppe
or if i get enough quartz molay too
astral drift
comp works
summer hornet
lmfao
https://twitter.com/FateSR_Official/status/1687037044709830656?t=J0CnqmBqT...
No explanation
Just shopkeeper Gilgamesh
Beautiful
old galleon
alrighty, for us fellas who can't really use melt for this one, i got some goods
the spice is that all three of oberon's skills go on arash turn 1
even then it's a range, and i'm still running tests to get a better idea of where the range is
(no i can't just damage calc it right now)
but turns 2 and 3 are clean
may need mc atk buff on turn 2, turn 3 shouldn't be necessary due to anti-chaotic mods on lartoria's 1
astral drift
summer hornet
My Lartoria is still NP1 6/6/10, so it's a bit of a struggle to consistently kill wave 2 of 90+
Once I get her to 10/6/10 she should be able to use Mana Burst on turns 2 and 3 instead of 1 and 3 though, which will balance things out
... Best Way to get all the QP for that is opening boxes, though... It's ironically the most time consuming part of the process
old galleon
yeah that's gonna be a lot less damage
sounds like mc atk buff is required in your case
summer hornet
I gotta test if I can get away with not using the atk buff for wave 3 first, since Ash man has 180k
slow raft
old galleon
does he have queen of sheba here too?
old galleon
tonight's strengthenings are anastasia and s kiyohime
anastasia's reduces the cooldown on her battery by 1 turn and adds an arts res down to it
s kiyo gets burn, spreading fire on attacks, and a flat 20% battery on her 1
idle grove
might have to play NA after all
I forgot I can cash in my ticket for a tamamo which is why I never played much with it before
late canopy
slow raft
summer hornet
The war never ends
summer hornet
Also, I have made an epiphany
slow raft
Do tell
summer hornet
I spent yesterday/this morning trying to do NeroFest round 2’s 90+ with NP1 6/6/10 (and no append skill) Lartoria
But I have an NP4 Melt
slow raft
summer hornet
10/10/10, grailed to 90, append skill at level 10
slow raft
Bit of a blunder
Can you put her on support btw? Dont really have a decent lancer for this node so im relying on support servants for dps
summer hornet
Right duh, mb
I guess I should have asked “starting charge CE or lotto CE”
It’s not gonna be the MLB one though; I’ve only got one copy of that and it’s on Koyanskaya/Castoria/Waver
slow raft
summer hornet
My new setup btw - not using a 5* attacker and 50% starting CE lets me fit Emiya in the backline for bond farming
slow raft
Yeah no, thats not looping 
copper steppe
im not sure if fionn is able to loop in this node
slow raft
ok, it takes some carding, but thanks to argors tip and regis melt i can 3 turn
copper steppe
after a bit of trial and error lartoria loops
glossy latch
https://twitter.com/GenshinUpdate/status/1687427919352926208?t=Opy2XWMcV69sfsqun...
Dammit it looks good
I dont wanna start Genshin >.>
idle grove
slow raft
Its a bit maddening knowing that ryoma would be the perfect slot in in my clear but i dont have him
runic ether
oh man fontaine trailer looks pretty good
slow raft
actually forgor about lan ling
long tree
Forgor 💀
slow raft
i was thinking like "hmm, who is more efficient at giving a small charisma effect and 10 percent np charge to melt than waver"
and somehow never considered him
lanling might be a bad idea if i ever need emergency facecarding but im sure it wont come up
(clueless)
runic ether
bruh my layla's artifact attack rolls have been so fucking insane
almost same level of attack as xiangling
ofc nowhere near as nice crit ratio or er as xiangling but god damn
my layla lifts
1 bad roll... but if i get crate rolls from here on out, this is gonna be my haitham piece. this would put him at 250~ cdmg to 60~ crate
slow raft
quic question for the chat, what planar ornament is better for blade? one of the crit rate ones orn the hp one?
runic ether
quic question for the chat, what planar ornament is better for blade? one of the...
they can both be good
hp helps of course and fleet helps if ur running him in like
his "meta" team
sw - blade - bronya - luocha
since sw and luocha appreciate fleet buffs
but if ur not on a mono-5 star team and ur other characters dont care about the supports
slow raft
hmmm
i have exactly one of these
runic ether
like
if only silver wolf would appreciate the buffs
then personal damage stats are better
salsotto or the new crit rate set are both good on blade
slow raft
im gonna go for crit rate then methinks
runic ether
could be better but this is fine
ill be on the lookout for a better helm with either mono-crit rate or crit dmg rolls
slow raft
eh, i can do better
old galleon
im not sure if fionn is able to loop in this node
He can work but needs some weird setup
runic ether
eh, i can do better
oh for salsotto do hp% over atk% mainstat
slow raft
yeah
old galleon
gonna do hassan parade cq now
using probably the most fitting main attacker
take a guess who i'm using
we'll find out if you're right when i win
copper steppe
gonna try spartacus quest
rigid pilot
Hassan Parade is pretty easy with Skadi
Skadi and Caster Da Vinci
with Paracelsus and Nitrocris
old galleon
tbh castoria is the least important part of the team and could be replaced by all sorts of other supports
i just had her there bc anti-enforcement goes brrrrr
the debuff cleansing was also appreciated but that's not unique
astral drift
I misclicked the master skill
summer hornet
Is Eyjafjlkjklala a useful pick from the certifications shop in Arknights?
(yes I mispelled her name)
old galleon
eyja is a great pick
unless she's been crept and i'm not aware of it she's still the best st caster in the game, and also the best aoe caster in the game : ^)
helps make certain mob rushes a lot easier
glossy latch
Ok for the genshin fans here, if I started playing the game now
How likely would I be to be able ot guarantee a new banner characterß
glossy latch
Underwater region >.>
summer hornet
glossy latch
But yeah Id only play it rarely and I would be interested in getting that magician dude 5*
So I need to know if thats realistic
summer hornet
Been putting Ling to work in this recent event and turns out she’s pretty fun
Easier to work with than most summoners, I feel like
glossy latch
Also does every character in Genshin get a rerun?
late canopy
Off of past history no character is limited to a single run forever
All characters eventually get rerun
late canopy
How likely would I be to be able ot guarantee a new banner characterß
It would be rough considering the patch is only two weeks away
With regular Genshin income it takes approx a patch to get a pity's worth of free gems, although a new player starting off may be able to get a boost from initial free gem income
So I'm classifying getting a banner character in the very next patch starting right now as "rough" as opposed to "improbable"
late canopy
Definitely not
Although
You can go another way
Wait until the character you want is out and start rerolling
Although I heard that Genshin's reroll process is very time consuming
I've never actually rerolled myself so I've got no first hand experience
long tree
Although I heard that Genshin's reroll process is very time consuming
Half an hour of open world gameplay, new email each time
It is incredibly not worth it to reroll
(5 star rate is 0.8%, still have to win 50/50 for 5 star featured etc)
old galleon
can you not do salted emails for it?
long tree
You can I think?
idle grove
yeah you almost definitely can
copper steppe
melt melted spartacus
runic ether
we knew free lynette cus she is the opposite of hydro mc for the purposes of a mechanic
runic ether
i also now have exact pity to hit yelan in a 10 roll come fontaine
im ready for c1
ill win that 50/50
wispy bough
I have like 45~ pity at the moment, and I lost my first 50/50 so I dont know if imma pull for people
Might save for Zhongli or Childe to be honest
runic ether
did u win the 50/50?
runic ether
re: childe zhongli
wispy bough
Only at 28 pity
runic ether
the value of supports are way way higher than dps
childe is great! but between childe or yelan or zhongli, yelan and zhongli > childe unless ur really missing a main dps
ofc if u really like childe go for him
he goes sicko mode with xl bennett xq/anemo support
wispy bough
I have xq so Im not looking for Yelan at the moment
runic ether
consider: they are both absolutely insane and work well together
wispy bough
being immortal sounds fun Zhongli does look cool though
runic ether
yelan is also way stronger than xq without c6
she gives up heals and as much single target hydro for basically fav bow + fat damage
if im being honest, yelan and zhongli both add to your account rn significantly
it may not be a bad idea to go for both since you can guarantee yelan
wispy bough
I mean I am looking towards rev melt, as I have all the other characters leveled and stuff, just gotta wait for Bennett
wispy bough
it *may* not be a bad idea to go for both since you can guarantee yelan
Problem there is I have no wishes saved cos I gave into gamba 
wispy bough
Yeah
runic ether
not a resident hoarder i see
wispy bough
Nope
wispy bough
Damn
late canopy
I always forever live deathly afraid of the gacha
I have emergency funds stacked on top of emergency funds
wispy bough
I am not spending money on Genshin, hopefully 
runic ether
im getting fontaine battle pass if we get an hp sword
wispy bough
Welkin moon looks damn worth though I’ll say that
late canopy
Given enough time your account will grow thicc enough that you get the ultimate luxury:
Can pull for whatever you want
Unit strength be damned
runic ether
i also have a bet. if alrecchino isnt playable im c6ing a friend's character of choice
wispy bough
If arlechino isnt playable 
wispy bough
Looks so cool, would be annoyed if she doesnt
runic ether
we have some leaks but 
wispy bough
I watched like one vid that said bennett would be event character like a week ago
The copium worked there, might work again
runic ether
the worst case scenario is arlecchino is playable but she sucks
wispy bough
Ok, still pulling for her
runic ether
anyhow im only gonna chase c1 yelan and c2 raiden and maybe c1 ganyu? past that its all new characters lest i go for weird ones on a whim
tho idr care about a ton of fontaine characters
wispy bough
Raiden is kinda inviting for me cos like bloom can go hyper but like
runic ether
just alrecchino and archon
late canopy
I stick to c0 on most of the characters I pull
runic ether
raiden hyperbloom is weird
late canopy
Most bang for buck since most characters are perfectly viable at c0
wispy bough
Lynney looks
runic ether
ya
wispy bough
I just dont rlly like how his gameplay looked
late canopy
And multiple c0 characters is more room for more varied playstyle
runic ether
i have had 0 issues with c0 5 stars
late canopy
I'll give him a play in the trial and see how I like him
runic ether
i have plenty of c6 4 stars
late canopy
Knowing me I'll pull for every Fontaine character just cuz they new and shiny
Unless I actively dislike their playstyle
runic ether
rosaria, diona, beidou, sucrose, ningguang
late canopy
I did so for Sumeru too
runic ether
shes ok
my only goal for this patch was constellations for faruzan
which i got
im c3 faruzan since the last unique prior 5 star i want is xiao so i can have an anemo carry
wispy bough
I mean I won’t be doing anything except selling my soul to Genshin fishing for a bit soon enough
late canopy
Wanderer has become one of my favs ever since he came out
wispy bough
The Catch is so good, but so tedious
runic ether
i dont dislike his gameplay myself when i tried wanderer
late canopy
Put together with Venti he's really good at mopping up mildly sized trash
runic ether
but i like xiao's way more
late canopy
Wanderer has become one of my go-to teams for speedrunning abyss 9 and 10
And even preffered team for harder floors if it suits him
wispy bough
Wanderer looks cool to me but he feels a bit worse than he looks
runic ether
his cons and personal weapon do a ton to make him "pop off" in harder content
late canopy
He needs help basically, but not in a bad way
runic ether
c2 in particular
wispy bough
U try to fly and u get hit out of nowhere by something and fall, spend three decades getting back up
runic ether
though the value of what c6 faruzan gives him is immense
late canopy
He needs good supports to magnify his strengths
wispy bough
his cons and personal weapon do a ton to make him "pop off" in harder content
Doesnt he use the bell catalyst, not The Bell
late canopy
I'm a cheapsake so I've commited to not pulling it for him
runic ether
but if ur gonna go for him, c6 faruzan > c2 > weapon
wispy bough
I need to find more white tassels as well for my Rosaria I just remembered
late canopy
Lost Prayers is more than good for him
runic ether
nah ur fine cus this weapon banner is bootycheeks
wispy bough
Only at r3 at the moment 
runic ether
keep opening chests
wispy bough
Ik, just annoying
Its rlly good with c1 Rosaria as well if I remember cos it give dmg buff when u crit as her const
runic ether
Its rlly good with c1 Rosaria as well if I remember cos it give dmg buff when u ...
c1 is just nice to trigger fav lancw
*lance
but since ur using white tassel...
ofc its still really good to buff rosaria's a4 passive
which shares crit rate with the team
astral drift
kuro is confirmed a gacha servant, what a relief
idle grove
honest pawn
which one's kuro?
astral drift
chloe von einzbern
digital marlin
kuro is confirmed a gacha servant, what a relief
Why the relief
astral drift
more ascension variety
digital marlin
Oh
old galleon
he wants to see chloe in a swimsuit, not in work clothes
astral drift
the id badge gave me con staff vibes
summer hornet
I mean I like the staff look
Unconventional but still summer vibes, and 3rei ||definitely showed she's got Miyu's responsibility with Illya's morality- RIP||
Also Argor
One, Star Rail just started implementing a returning player campaign
Two, how far did you get in the story before you went on hiatus?
old galleon
Two, how far did you get in the story before you went on hiatus?
i was caught up with story before any updates
iirc my levleed units are at 60 and i think im at least eq 45 for 5* relic farming
or close to it if i'm not there
digital marlin
And I'm caught up with story
I know with how the new game is it makes sense theres not much that needed to be done but still feels weird to catch up when I really only started played the game a little over a week ago
glossy latch
Yeah Star Rail suffers from having rather little to do
I feel like they should maybe distribute their budget a bit differently because no matter how pretty it looks, its just not very enticing to have to wait months for actual content
old galleon
pretty sure genshin has the same issue
i wouldn't expect much out of it
just use the down times efficiently
digital marlin
at this point from what im seeing its just going to be a grindfest until more content comes
old galleon
(or do other stuff)
digital marlin
with grinding for more character progression it doesnt look like there is much to use your characters on that seems satisfying AKA "endgame" content outside of the grinindg levels
runic ether
yea both games have a lot of down period so that ppl dont miss out on things too often
but the end game content of both games is supposed to be a draw
artifact grinding, forbidden memories/spiral abyss, character leveling
glossy latch
Sadly I dont think Star Rails combat has the depth neccessary for that
glossy latch
Like its just Kiseki combat but with infinitely less depth, and Im not even sure that game can make the combat itself the draw
digital marlin
well yeah at the end of the day its a gacha/mobile game
so its not going to compare to a full fledge RPG
runic ether
story + characters are a big draw
also combat can def get way more in-depth over time
with more challenging future combat/bosses and characters doing interesting things
glossy latch
The characters are a draw
Idk about story though, Xianzhou has been kinda plodding
Its weird, it feels like there is simultaniously too much and too little going on
runic ether
i personally think genshin's character writting is stronger
tho tbf theres just a lot more content for em
given time, i think hsr will get a lot better. like i enjoyed the quest on the luofu where u travel back to belobog and talk to serval. once we interconnect worlds and such it will feel a lot better
glossy latch
I hope so
But I do think the core narrative needs to have better planning/pacing
Like Dan Shu alone was just kind of a mess
Blade, for all the hype he got coming into the chapter was just ... there
And there is still a third part coming, but not because the story really is written in a way to naturally lead into a third part, but because we know theres a character who got a banner who hasnt done shit yet
runic ether
pacing for the luofu has def been weird
glossy latch
Now this part is baseless speculation, but having played a lot of JRPGs with reminiscent issues, it seems to like there may have been some late in development rewrites
runic ether
oh yeah i can see that for sure
glossy latch
Like some parts feel like they were planned out from the start, but others are just ... weirdly inconsistent and showing the seams
runic ether
story writing is complicated
also the fact that u arent just experiencing this story sequentially can affect it + some info being locked or will be locked behind companion quests
glossy latch
While thats true, I would argue if you choose that style of narrative, your writing should account for it
runic ether
it cant always do so for some things
like narrative will just naturally be weaker as a result of this
glossy latch
I just played a game where the main gimmick is that there are 3 routes running in parallel, and you get a decent amount of freedom in what order you play them, which does neccessitate specific changes in writing, but the game did do that well
Still, yes, it doesnt make it easy
Well, lets see what part 3 does, and what the next area brings
runic ether
u gotta account for ppl who will never touch other routes/sidequests/stories
glossy latch
For now the story has been kinda eh. Belobog was a fair bit better, but it wasn't what I would call a top tier video game narrative either?
Belobog did at least have pretty nice character writing
runic ether
yeah it was fine especially for a first act
u know what, i think the thing with the luofu is that belobog was way more isolated
its super self-contained
but ||end of part 2 of luofo, we get the general of the hunt declaring war against nanook and the ravagers which is absolutely a long-term plotline||
so as a result ||luofu will feel like a stepping stone for a greater narrative rather than a standalone story arc||
glossy latch
The problem is I prefer self-contained narratives that still build on a greater narrative, like what Herta space station and to some degree even Belobog had
Xianzhou has elements of a self-contained storyline but they're just all screwed up
runic ether
right
and it will be a bit harder to get them "right" since well. there is a much larger narrative to the luofu at play
glossy latch
Again, I suspect rewrites are to blame, because the whole ||Dan Heng = Dan Feng|| thing that was clearly always planned doesnt mesh well with the ||Dan Shu|| part, which is why that plotline was just kinda randomly dropped
runic ether
i will say, genshin's 2nd act so far is def stronger than hsr's
glossy latch
||Which is a shame because as weirdly paced as it was, I thought the Dan Shu stuff in 1.0 was actually pretty well written, it should've just happened earlier||
runic ether
Again, I suspect rewrites are to blame, because the whole ||Dan Heng = Dan Feng|...
||giving us the choice to kill dan shu or let her run was hella weird and im surprised they even let us take it||
glossy latch
||But it just never ended up mattering||
||IT felt like it was turned from the crux of the plot into a weird half-built bridge||
runic ether
||we will have to see. if choosing to kill her and her coming back anyways means something is up in regards to the powers of abundance that we will have to defeat later on||
glossy latch
||To facilitate Phantylia who ... is weirdly inconsequential? Like she exists for the shock twist, but beyond that her actual impact on the story is fairly low and it doesnt feel like she is an interesting villain||
||Uh, doesnt Dan Shu die either way because of Phantylia?||
runic ether
||kinda? but again. if u kill her and she can come back anyways it may be more to it||
glossy latch
||You choose to fight her or let her go, but she escapes either way, it only changes two textboxes||
runic ether
||also phantylia is clearly not done. she said it herself. they just destroyed a body of hers she borrowed on a whim. this wouldnt be a big issue if we had the whole story to go through from here buut bc we will end up waiting for that, it matters||
glossy latch
||Yeah. And I think its also not a great placement for a bit of setup? Like I liked what they did with Sampo more, where it was basically the credit stinger||
||While in the story itself there were only hints while he was overall just a regular participant||
runic ether
||and i did like that other servant of aha we meet on the luofu too. so its not like they cant write well. its just some parts suffer due to time constraints and needing to be divided up for other releases.||
runic ether
anyways im still waiting for that childe moment that genshin had for star rail
i see some hints of what could be similar but its not quite there yet
glossy latch
I assume that means a big event that either recontextualises what came before, or sets in motion a new, unexpected direction?
runic ether
yes more or less
childe had a moment in genshin where he was fully your ally the whole storyline but the game left u little hints at who the ultimate confrontation will be with in liyue. but its clearly not so simple since hes not some mastermind or grand orchestrator. he just really likes fighting ppl. so the game distracts you with 2 obvious baits as to who the villain could be and it leaves a good climactic fight in the end before the conclusion.
glossy latch
I see
Tbh I have a vague guess as to where the story in Star Rail is going, just based on the inspiration for the game
Its obviously not 1:1, but there certainly are parallels
runic ether
its quite different in the end
but it is what sold me on genshin for sure. they knew how to play to the game's limitations and how to tell a solid narrative within said limits. and it ended the whole story arc of liyue in a nice and proper send-off without putting a ton of pressure to go to the next nation
ofc it had a weak follow up as inazuma's story was way more of a mess but sumeru's story was a big step up from there.
glossy latch
Oh I meant trails of rather than Genshin
I doubt the gameplay is the only part they got inspired by
glossy latch
Yeah it's a long one, but my vague guesses are that rather than Nanook, the final enemy will be the Aeon of Finality
glossy latch
Yeah
runic ether
nanook is set out to be more akin to a force of nature rather than a big overarching and plotting villain