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#Gacha Chat
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Ruler: oversees the Grail War normally. Not directly involved. Special class usually reserved for Saints
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unless they're not
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Avenger: their hatred for something is so extreme that it becomes their burning desire but some can think rationally unlike most Berserkers
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commonly known saint, sherlock holmes
honest pawn
rulers aren't just saints they're rulers
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Moon Cancer: a class exclusively reserved for BB and thats a whole thing
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commonly known saint, ||james moriarty||
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I guess rulers just are the ones with such unlimited rizz that no one has an agenda towards them
rigid pilot
Alter Ego: not Alters. But rather, composite high servants composed of various parts of related divinities
honest pawn
hence the resistances
rigid pilot
Pretenders: unequivocal enemies to humanity
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in lore rulers were neutral arbitrators dispatched when shit went off the rails to get them back on the rails
fgo definitely plays fast and loose with that
honest pawn
you wanna know the best part
rigid pilot
put some back
LOL OKAY SK
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you've got seven basic classes then a million extra classes
rigid pilot
SO
honest pawn
don quixote is in the game and they did it right by him for whatever reason
rigid pilot
Post-LB7 ||that is kind of where the story is heading||
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7 extra classes actually
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ruler, avenger, moon cancer, alter ego, foreigner, pretender, shielder, ||beast||
and those are just in fgo
slow raft
oh right shielder
runic ether
wait is shielder not a base class?
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i forgor
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rider
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leonidas?
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achilles in the form we have him in is a rider
summer hornet
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who tf is that
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who is the default servant ||and is associated with galahad||
summer hornet
Achilles is fascinating to me because he has so many Noble Phantasms that they turned half of them into skills for FGO
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who is the default servant ||and is associated with galahad||
???
okay sure actually
honest pawn
her shield is ||the actual round table||
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Achilles is fascinating to me because he has so many Noble Phantasms that they t...
i think it is weird how a lot of things classify for servants and whatnot
like
honest pawn
dude
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you can think of mash as a test tube baby who has a servant fused with her
runic ether
a lot of greek demi-gods dont fall under the whole divine spirit thing?
honest pawn
Karna is a Lancer
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it's more complicated than that but that's the gist
runic ether
Karna is a *Lancer*
thats what im saying like
karna is like
one of the famous archers in human mythology
honest pawn
well I guess I can understand to an extent
runic ether
you can think of mash as a test tube baby who has a servant fused with her
aight fair
honest pawn
at that moment in time the Archer class had so much bloat by his release
runic ether
what about heracles does he get to go tootin and shootin?
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||in strange fake||
summer hornet
Locked behind Fate/Strange Fake story
rigid pilot
Yesn't
runic ether
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in fgo he's a berserker, taken from berserker of fate/stay night
runic ether
a berserker makes sense
he is a figure defined by his rage
what other berserkers exist
i can probably guess a few
idle grove
Vlad III
summer hornet
runic ether
that makes perfect sense
runic ether
lancelot? ok i can see
idle grove
except berserker vlad is a refined gentleman who hates being called a vampire
slow raft
beowulf
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kiyohime? like the tale
summer hornet
runic ether
beowulf makes perfect sense
slow raft
Kijyo Kōyō
idle grove
dinosaur king
slow raft
kriemhild
runic ether
imagine getting so angry u just try and overthrow a kingdom almost by urself
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paul bunyan
honest pawn
WAIT
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bunyan also makes sense as a berserker
idle grove
galatea
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nightingale
summer hornet
How did you not see it before
slow raft
lu bu
honest pawn
I saw ||nero|| and I peaced out
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nightingale
why?
idle grove
why is a statue a berserker
ask fate
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why is clay a lancer : ^)
summer hornet
Because Gate of Babylon is an Archer’s NP
slow raft
uhh
slow raft
salome
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i gues she literally just murders a bunch of ppl
spartacus makes perfect sense too yeah
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||I JUST SAW SODOM'S BEAST'S 3RD ASCENSION||
on this note I just read their kit and this is super underwhelming
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hmmmm caenus would also work as a berserker? he was pretty damn angry
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oh boy
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achilles must also have some of that after patroculus was killed
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on this note I just read their kit and this is super underwhelming
What about bonus damage on top of class advantage for all standard class servants is underwhelming?
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frankenstein the doctor or the monster
idle grove
thoughts on beowulf final ascension
runic ether
trick question the monster was the doctor yadayada
honest pawn
What about bonus damage on top of class advantage for all standard class servant...
...class advantage?
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hmmmm caenus would also work as a berserker? he was pretty damn angry
lancer in base form, rider in summer form
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hm
lancer? sure
rider well
i guess he sailed with jason
all the argonaut members then get to be riders too?
slow raft
jason is saber
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runic ether
medea sure that makes sense she is a witch
yeah atalante was the 1st to land that shot on the boar
jason a saber? his swordsmanship wasnt his strong suit but sure
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||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/1/1d/S279_Stage1.webp/...
ohhh i feel like this is offensive
its not a bad design but
sheesh
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caenus. famously discarding his birth gender getting genderbent?
honest pawn
now show her the final ascension.
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i'm not opening that can of worms roast
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...class advantage?
The Beast class (or at least her specific Beast class) has 1.5 damage against all main classes (saber, lancer, archer, rider, caster, assassin, berserker) and takes 1.5 damage from all extra classes
honest pawn
btw I think they went with the interpretation of caenus' story where ||poseidon did the no-no to them||
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The Beast class (or at least her specific Beast class) has 1.5 damage against al...
ah
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btw I think they went with the interpretation of caenus' story where ||poseidon ...
thats the only common interpretation
and the reason he says "make me a man. so i may never be disgraced in this way again."
honest pawn
there's at least one other more light-hearted one where caenus tricks him in a non-weird way
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yeah i remember. either way its one of history's first story of a trans man
summer hornet
And again, that class advantage is before the NP effect of giving extra super effective damage against the main servant classes
runic ether
cus baseline, caenus decides he wanted to be a man
what qualifies someone as a beast?
im guessing famous animals and such
honest pawn
yeah the only beast in the game right now is ||a nero alt lol||
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type of deal
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it's this paradoxical thing where you're a threat to humanity but also love humanity
astral drift
honest pawn
but I will say this final ascension goes hard
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what even qualifies u for it?
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i'm not gonna pretend i'm qualified to decipher all of nasu's bullshit
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but I will say this final ascension goes hard
that is so extra lol
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umu umu
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oohhhh that is kinda yikes
honest pawn
I love the pauldrons
honest pawn
but anyways here's my favorite female Fate character, Medusa
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rider based
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where snakes
i like the idea tho
not a very greek-style outfit
but
the blindfold is interesting im guessing to hide who she actually is before its too late
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was a plot thing in stay night, yes
copper steppe
where snakes
its medusa before snakes
copper steppe
stare at someone called medusa is generally not a good idea
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clairvoyance and such
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it's basically nasu for "these eyes have special abilities"
honest pawn
it's a Nasu thing it's hard to explain
copper steppe
mystic eyes are generic term of eyes with magical powers
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im guessing stheno and euryale exist in fate too?
summer hornet
what even qualifies u for it?
It’s taking me so long to keep up with stuff because of mobile lol but like Argor said, it’s complicated Nasu stuff
honest pawn
yes
copper steppe
like a guy has the mystic eyes of death perception
copper steppe
it kills people
runic ether
i was gonna say ik they get lumped into divinities
honest pawn
"death perception" is SUCH A STUPID PUN
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tho tbf i guess medusa does too at times
honest pawn
IT'S SO STUPID
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the mystic eyes of death perception basically lets you see people's deaths through lines and lets you interact with t hem
severing them kills
is the very basic rundown of those
honest pawn
funny thing about stheno and euryale
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that's more relevant to kara no kyoukai tho
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And Tsukihime
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(and also tsukihime_)
fgo gives you a way to distinguish them
in hollow ataraxia they are literally identical, as far as i could see
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down to their outfits
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medusa is supposed to be the same as them
copper steppe
also talking about euryale, asterios 
runic ether
what does the bull of minos have anything to do with
honest pawn
I think what they were going for is since stheno and euryale were both immortal they took on a different appearance from medusa
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fgo story stuff more than anything
copper steppe
they became friends in story
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Mainly FGO’s story, Euryale and Asterios hang out in the third story chapter and it’s super sweet
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oh i guess they get a chance to meet others
copper steppe
asterios is a big softie
slow raft
I like asterios for le funny solos
slow raft
Sometimes it gets integrated, sometimes it doesnt
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Like there are servants that soecifically represent muötiple aspects of a legends
Oh also to clarify
Servants arent actually the full like
Person summoned
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stheno and euryale both got turned into the monsterous gorgon bc neptune violated medusa and athena got mad that medusa was coveted
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Person summoned
ah like
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did someone say gorgon? ||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/f/fe/S147_Stage1.webp/revision/latest?cb=20220911081654||
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For example, cu in lancer class does barely any rune magic
In caster he doesnt even have gae bolg iirc
honest pawn
yeah
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Servant classes are like containers that you fit the information into
honest pawn
cu's one of the best Fate characters because he's just always cool wherever he appears
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and i guess for anime too
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||and he always dies||
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Lancer ga shinda!
honest pawn
anyways here's gawain
runic ether
i imagine if cu had all the access to the magic taught to him by scathach and gae bolg
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anyways here's gawain
real
honest pawn
oh wait wrong one
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why are you baiting with april fools art
honest pawn
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i thought this would be
honest pawn
the april fool's art is really good
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and here's also gawain ||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/6/69/S310_Stage1.webp/revision/latest?cb=20220925054240||
honest pawn
oh thank God you posted the safe for work one
runic ether
wait thats actually sick
slow raft
Speaking of mystic eyes
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genderbent aside
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oh thank God you posted the safe for work one
i couldn't make the joke work if i posted her other forms
copper steppe
no its just something fae have
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you're on the right track
copper steppe
generic term for faries and similar creatures
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ez money
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it's pretty big current story spoilers
honest pawn
in official translations they're known as Tam Lin
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and that was the sound of floodgates bursting wide open
copper steppe
its yousei kishin (fairy knight) in japanese but it has been translated to that in na
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rescued by the queen of faeries and his love of her
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so basically, in the current lostbelt, there are some characters whose written out titles translate to 'faerie knight'
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||these are various creatures with the name of a round table knight imposed on them to keep them in check, gawain being one of them||
copper steppe
idk
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the faerie knight title has been localized to tam lin, for reasons i don't quite understand
so it'd be 'tam lin gawain', 'tam lin tristan', and 'tam lin lancelot', for the ones we have
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||these are various creatures with the name of a round table knight imposed on t...
oh bascially i went the opposite case
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yeah but you had the right idea in general
runic ether
i guess a lot of these old fae stories dont really have a way to be popular enough to market otherwise
but make em be alternate versions of knights of the round?
ez money
astral drift
Idk they have a LOT of literal whos in this game
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especially if they become waifu
copper steppe
they have actual names but its lore related
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i can post them but it'll be in spoilers and no one else not caught up on lb6 should click if you don't want to be spoiled
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Idk they have a LOT of literal whos in this game
i can appreciate them making deep cuts
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||tam lin gawain: barghest; tam lin tristan: baobhan sith; tam lin lancelot: melusine|| lb6 faerie knight true name spoilers
honest pawn
here's lancelot
astral drift
||Albion?||
runic ether
i know of lancelot actually
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||Albion?||
global hasn't gotten that plot point yet
runic ether
my sister showed me her cus she was in her words
a "misty-type character"
she wasnt really wrong
honest pawn
she is very misty-core
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but i dont like getting claled out like that
slow raft
Idt anyone cares about the faerie knights cause they are real big fans of lancelot, gawain or fucking tristan tbh
Lmao
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fair
honest pawn
arthurian cycle lit is my lifeblood so I'll sit quietly over here
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tho i imagine its a lot easier to tell u "this is faerie knight tristan" instead of ||baobhan sith||
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yeah lb6 is big on arthurian stuff, just like camelot was
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the second name being a big "who the fuck?" type of deal
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it just takes it in a whole other direction
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in lb6?
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||humanity as a whole is pretty much fucked in lb6 for plot reasons||
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o
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||there is a reason it's called faerie britain||
slow raft
All the lostbelts are
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it ties back into more nasu mumbo jumbo about proper human history and pruned timelines and shit
runic ether
that sounds pretty cool at least
slow raft
Tfw counterforce
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pruned timeline giving way to justify some bs
copper steppe
nasu made a fucking visual novel on a gacha game
slow raft
I dont even know if its humanities counterforce or gaia that does it tbh
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avalon could be its own vn with a bit of tweaking
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i can see it
hosting a grail war in pruned timelines
allows for alternate character versions
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||heian-kyo was a grail war tbf||
slow raft
True
runic ether
was gonna say like i can see how u can get a grail war out of alternate universe britain
but it gets wonky
slow raft
I chose to count that as a singularity tho
runic ether
bc how do u fill out a roster
slow raft
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lancelot, gawain, and arthur are all famed swordsman
tristan is known for his bow too so thats fine
copper steppe
nasu made a fucking visual novel on a gacha game
im not joking it lb6 has dialogue twice as long as a route in f/sn
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percival lancer?
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so the basic plot of part 2 is that ||a group of former comrades with the help of extraterrestrial interlopers bleached the whole earth white, and planted a bunch of evil trees that have their own timelines; the objective is for these seven trees to fight it out and the winner reclaims the earth||
||the player is tasked with going into each 'lostbelt', destroy the trees, and restore the earth||
||it basically diverges from holy grail war stuff, although one """side story""" in this part heavily features a grail war as part of its plot||
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i see
it does feel like a missed opportunity but ig if there was a grail war every time itd get boring
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percival lancer?
and yes
slow raft
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he's introduced in lb6
long tree
Good boy
slow raft
No rider
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both were introduced a long time ago
copper steppe
saber and lancer respectively
slow raft
Wiat
long tree
Well we do have a Mordred raider
slow raft
Techincally
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summer mordred is rider but that's a separate thing
long tree
It's a summer alt but err
runic ether
i mean that obvs work
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gareth is a 2* lancer, she also has a summer saber alt
runic ether
but gareth and mordred were pretty well known for their jousting tok
*too
tbf so is arthur
runic ether
several
long tree
Do we tell them about Jeanne summer?
runic ether
yeah why not
old galleon
there is a proper king arthur, but all of the other versions are of 'artoria', so the genderbent version
sister beam?
long tree
Yeah
slow raft
Theres like 30 artorias in the game idk what to tell you
long tree
Jeannes summer version wants to be everyone's onee san
And has legit brainwashing powers to make it happen
summer hornet
Jeanne is one of those who got crazier as FGO went on
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the official localization is even worse
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"""""altria""""""
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and arturia
long tree
Altria is used by no one but the localisers
copper steppe
summer jeanne also raised a dolphin
long tree
For obvious reasons
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"""""altria""""""
this one baffles me
runic ether
i take back my ew over artoria
copper steppe
why couldn’t they put artoria like normal people
summer hornet
runic ether
i now send it towards altria
long tree
Legit she should've just been called arthur
summer hornet
Oh for crying out loud
long tree
Elon said no regi
copper steppe
the musk attacks
runic ether
*letter
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i assume it's just discord embedding acting up
copper steppe
why is twitter having embed fails?
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it does that sometimes
runic ether
https://twitter.com/SebK_SR/status/1292877466491658242
makes sense that the titular girl protag gets a bunch of alternate versions
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she has a ton
runic ether
i can justify a few tho
arthur was well versed as a jouster too
so rider
and lancer covered
summer hornet
Lmfao I didn’t even notice lol
runic ether
god damn im guessing its the extra copies upgrade?
copper steppe
yes
copper steppe
increases noble phantasm power
old galleon
ye, each np level is one copy of that servant pulled
and this was posted in 2020 so before the 11 roll qol and i think before the .8% upgrade
long tree
makes sense that the titular girl protag gets a bunch of alternate versions
We have two saber alts whose purpose is to kill the other saber alts
runic ether
the one on the left the rider and the berserker dont really look like her though
copper steppe
We have two saber alts whose purpose is to kill the other saber alts
the other wants to kill foreigners
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the ruler on the far left is an alt of the lancer
long tree
Because there are so many saber alts it's actually an issue in "canon"
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who herself is a "what if saber used rhongomyniad instead and grew up"
summer hornet
Because there are so many saber alts it's actually an issue in "canon"
Servantverse canon
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the berserker is an alter of the assassin
runic ether
oh thats a cool thought process
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and the foreigner is an alt of the assassin
versed pawn
Wow Google really
slow raft
"The Artoria Species is like a cancer of the universe.
Someone must reap them out.
Someone must. '
(Mysterious Heroine X)
runic ether
and the foreigner is an alt of the assassin
alts on alts in alts
copper steppe
artoria effectively stopped aging when she pulled caliburn
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also the caster is actually completely her own thing, but looks like artoria, is named artoria ||caster, not pendragon||, and has a bunch of thematic ties to everything
versed pawn
Collected my weekly play store point and instead of point I get a free trial for Google 1 I would have to cancel on my own to get my 75 play points 
I refuse
runic ether
artoria effectively stopped aging when she pulled caliburn
whu
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caliburn and excallibur are debated to be different but i cant remember if the sword in the stone was ever different name
long tree
They used it as a excuse to give the lancer version boobs
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yeah pretty much
saber grew up and grew big tits, rides a horse, and uses a spear
then years later, dons a bunny outfit at the counsel of her round table and runs a casino
and that somehow makes her a ruler
runic ether
okay
copper steppe
also has a lion
summer hornet
Listen the casino is just summer shenanigans
runic ether
what im wondering is why specify rhongomyniad
long tree
I rate that summer event "better than being stuck in summer BBs fake universe forever/10"
copper steppe
rhongomyniad is special in fate lore
summer hornet
Okay take that back, the time loop doujin festival was super fun
long tree
Okay take that back, the time loop doujin festival was super fun
It was but they character assassinated Jeanne alter
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the assassin doesn't have carnwennan afaik
long tree
I hate it when they remove a characters personality to make them more marketable
copper steppe
also robin tired of bb shit
summer hornet
Robin has been tired of BB’s shtick since Extra
old galleon
according to artoria caster's profile, she has carnwennan
When Artoria reaches her Third Stage Ascension, she can use many of her treasured swords as catalysts for magecraft.
The Shadow-Treading Carnwennan, the Lightning Flash Spumador, and the Mythological Mystic Code Marmyadose.
The gigantic staff that Artoria carries in her Third Stage Ascension is a large sword that was forged by the God of Fire and given to great heroes.
It is said that this sword exceeds Excalibur in power alone, and during times when King Arthur would lend Excalibur to Gawain, she used this large sword as a substitute.
summer hornet
I hate it when they remove a characters personality to make them more marketable
Also Jalter’s personality was already in flux from her first appearance- she was created as an edgy copy by Gilles De Rais, then Counterfeit Spirits saw her trying to find her own destiny and purpose in life since she kept reappearing despite her own expectations, and she eventually got there through the mangaka lifestyle
runic ether
the assassin doesn't have carnwennan afaik
what a waste
long tree
Also Jalter’s personality was already in flux from her first appearance- she was...
Yeah but turning her into a tsun was just a dick move
Like you have a decent idea here
don't just make her a trope
runic ether
Tfw she was taught magic by Merlin
oh thats actually a cool concept
the mage-king arthur
as opposed to a warrior king
long tree
She's not king of her universe
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||yet||
long tree
runic ether
long tree
||Morgan la Fae|| is
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thats
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6.3 spoilers ||shit is gonna go to hell real fuckin fast||
runic ether
okay ig
slow raft
Speaking of buster
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6.3 spoilers ||shit is gonna go to hell real fuckin fast||
real
slow raft
Monday is start of the koyan banner, right?
astral drift
In most time zones
idle grove
oh yeah you guys haven't had the best part of lb6 yet
copper steppe
6.3 spoilers ||shit is gonna go to hell real fuckin fast||
||cernunnos bottom text 99% of faeries dead||
idle grove
||you mean 100% lmao||
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out of context that sounds awful but in context it's honestly a mercy
summer hornet
I can’t even click this stuff now, schist
slow raft
Prayging for a quick np 1 koyan sonk can get oberon
runic ether
genocide?
honest pawn
look at how cute this snake is
astral drift
Very cute snek
runic ether
i love a good genocide story
runic ether
why do i get the feelimg it wont be
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medusa saber based
summer hornet
Literally halfway through the ||Londinium siege||
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lostbelts have genocides by definition
slow raft
Part 2 literally starts with planetwide genocide
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just a matter of how they're perpetrated
runic ether
guess there is a reason they get pruned
long tree
why do i get the feelimg it wont be
Here's the entirety of lost belt 6s script btw
idle grove
I love how the lostbelt starts because it's such a small change that has such a huge impact really
runic ether
shit
old galleon
how do we know he's actually holding the script and not a bunch of clean printer paper
honest pawn
I math'd it out and if I don't spend a single SQ from now until july 1st of next year and the july 1st after that
long tree
how do we know he's actually holding the script and not a bunch of clean printer...
Because that'd be lying argor
long tree
And lying is not good
honest pawn
without taking into consideration any maintenance SQ, any event SQ and tickets, and other promotional
idle grove
how do we know he's actually holding the script and not a bunch of clean printer...
I'd believe it more that it's just an equivalent amount than the actual script
honest pawn
I'd have exactly 900 for both skadi ruler and medusa saber for both summers
old galleon
and then some of the words are unskippable
idle grove
all of the words should be unskippable this lostbelt is the best story fgo has ever given us
summer hornet
^^^
runic ether
skadi? how does she work?
shes a goddess so divine spirit
and then she is a giant
do they just show her like
astral drift
Scathach-skadi
honest pawn
pseudo-servant but she shares the body with Scathach
runic ether
face or somethin
hmmmmmmm thats some bs
ok actually
ik why this is done
but hmmmmmm
old galleon
they wanted an excuse to push scathach more
summer hornet
Lmaooo
old galleon
so they did : ^)
runic ether
scathach's design is pretty good so fair
summer hornet
We gotta show Napoleon
old galleon
scathach is based, yes
honest pawn
scaw-hawk
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based
astral drift
runic ether
big canon??
long tree
Man said CANNON
runic ether
why is he not a rider?
long tree
500 dead
summer hornet
Rainbow cannon too
slow raft
I love all might
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as im figuring this out
hercules is heracles
his rage is a defining part
he is well known as an archer
but his other trait is big mad
long tree
Yes but he's so angry he can't even use his correct noble phantasm
He is literally just a big angry flesh pile
runic ether
yeah that makes sense
summer hornet
Very strong angry pile
long tree
While it makes sense, his other classes would be more powerful just because they can use his noble phantasm
slow raft
I love that thing with madness enhancement that they did in stay night and zero
runic ether
sure
long tree
Hence the "wrong class"
slow raft
Like how lancelot and herc cant use their np properly
runic ether
idt thats a wrong class tho thats just another form
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He is, as a certain German homunculus (and a famous Greek hero) said, “the strongest in the world”
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noble phantasm being their ultimate no
long tree
When I say "wrong class" I mainly just mean class that isn't their best
runic ether
oh sure
long tree
Often servants will complain if they're summoned in a form they're not the best at
Like cu does as a caster
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what does heracles nornally use?
*normally
he probably has a lot of options for a legendary weapon/item
slow raft
Bersercar cant loose to anyone
summer hornet
FGO has distorted perceptions a bit on that as well, since Noble Phantasms aren’t always weapons or attacks
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lancelot i can guess arondite
slow raft
Noble phantasms are "crytalisations of a heroes legend" or smth
runic ether
p sure he loses it when he stops being a perfect knight and sleeps with guinevere
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Noble phantasms are "crytalisations of a heroes legend" or smth
ah
long tree
One for each trial and then more
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so just a manifestation of what their legend says
slow raft
Lancelor use arondite yeah and hid berseker form cant use it properly cause of that
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Saber Lancelot has Arondite as a Noble Phantasm. Zerkerlot mainly uses Knight of Owner (can use any weapon with absurd skill)
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Zerkerlot can make anything he perceives as a wepon his weapon
Like a telephone pole
Or a jet
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thats a fun interpretation of lancelot's skill
slow raft
He also has another np that obscures peeception
summer hornet
slow raft
I think its called "for anothers glory"
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and in a rage when he killed gareth and agravain
summer hornet
That’s not a great shot of it, mb
honest pawn
hey, misty
runic ether
he used whatever since couldnt use arondite
honest pawn
guess what he uses in Fate Zero
honest pawn
fighter jet yes
slow raft
"While his armor has many defining marks that easily show his identity, he remains unidentified thanks to this Noble Phantasm, a black fog that engulfs him to prevent others from discerning his identity by obscuring his figure and keeping enemy Masters from reading his abilities. The true nature of the ability would allow him to disguise himself as other Heroic Spirits, but the only way to use it as Berserker is to force him with a Command Spell."
honest pawn
he rips off a minigun detachment and hipfires it in his NP as well
long tree
My favourite NP is sherlocks
slow raft
Another funny thing knight of ownee can do is that he can use someone elses np
long tree
Guy can figure out any mystery
summer hornet
slow raft
As demonstrated with gil
honest pawn
it's genuinely such a sin zerkerlot was a 4-star only
copper steppe
could lancelot use enkidu as a weapon with knight of owner
long tree
I also like Gilgamesh's eruma eresh simply because it's so strong using it tears apart the reality marble that houses the universe
summer hornet
also reminder that part of the reason Sherlock was put in Ruler class was so he wouldn't use his NP to inadverdently ruin the mystery of the world
runic ether
pretty fucking cool
slow raft
Me when i invalidate magic cause im to smort
copper steppe
also reminder that part of the reason Sherlock was put in Ruler class was so he ...
he would kill magecraft and by extension the world so fair
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i guess fgo also has a limit with noble phantasm beinf relegated to ults hm
i think lancelot has a magic mirror and tent too for example
copper steppe
some have a lot of noble phantasms
long tree
Legit Sherlock could cure his drug addiction if he wanted to by solving the question "how could one stop Sherlock Holmes drug addiction without hurting him"
runic ether
not really practical to show off
long tree
He just chooses not to
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Legit Sherlock could cure his drug addiction if he wanted to by solving the ques...
real
copper steppe
its not the “why”, its the “why not”
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i guess other heroes in the past with similar levels of clairvoyance or abilities to see the future are quite limited too then
long tree
Real mischievous
copper steppe
my man fucking showed up in ||shinjuku without any elaboration whatsoever||
long tree
Merlin absolutely knows almost everything that's gonna happen, and he'll still do pranks knowing he's gonna get his ass kicked for it later
That's why he's my favourite
slow raft
I think solomon and merlin are bother the only ones with clairvoyance(ex)
Arash has A
Does gil have it? Idr
summer hornet
Gilgamesh Caster does
long tree
My man pranked artoria so hard he caused the fall of avalon
runic ether
solomon with his infinite wisdom probably cant be summoned then
i assume
same with merlin?
slow raft
EMIYA has like
Mundane clairvoyance
summer hornet
part 1 spoilers
slow raft
Ok so
summer hornet
lmfao abe no seimei is part 2 spoilers
runic ether
real
slow raft
When the ego is alter
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hmmmm i wanna say confucious would also be disqualified or nerfed
slow raft
Merlin also is like
slow raft
Weird as a servant
runic ether
lol
slow raft
Cause he uses the same method of appearing as the beasts of humanity
long tree
Same with sherlock
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wait isnt his whole deal being trapped in avalon
slow raft
Independant manifesration
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did they make merlin in fate a hater
slow raft
Or atleast proto merlin does i think
long tree
HES SO BASED
runic ether
thats merlin?
copper steppe
no
slow raft
No thats uhhh
runic ether
oh
runic ether
anime pretty boy merlin isnt real. he cant hurt you
summer hornet
Part 1, Solomon ||is set up to be the big bad, but in reality it's the demon he summoned, Goetia, pretending to be him so he can nuke all of human history at the same time.||
Part 2, Abe no Seimei ||is set up to be one of the overarching villains serving the Foreign God, but in reality it's Ashiya Douman claiming Seimei's name- which, now that I think about it, is kinda weird that they pulled the Solomon/Goetia trick again||
runic ether
anime pretty boy merlin
honest pawn
and this is not merlin
runic ether
Part 1, Solomon ||is set up to be the big bad, but in reality it's the demon he ...
real
long tree
anime pretty boy merlin
runic ether
ars goetia referenced lfg
old galleon
Oh yeah demon pillars are a big part 1 thing
slow raft
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idt we ever knew anyone with any official records with that name
but i looked it up
a few different men in the past went by similar names and the stories are a bit conflated
doma hoshi is what would be the "real guy"
summer hornet
This is a Demon Pillar
slow raft
Fitting then that douman is an altee ego, the class of amalgamations
long tree
This is a Demon Pillar
The fullmetal alchemist philosophers stone pillar can't hurt you it doesn't exist
The fullmetal alchemist philosophers stone pillar:
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but ig alter ego is a thing and doman is a dubiously real figure
runic ether
yea that makes sense
slow raft
Or sitonai
runic ether
huh why rasputin?
summer hornet
....(yorokobe shounen)
runic ether
he was real
slow raft
Rasputin in fgo is not just rasputin
runic ether
let me guess
he is mixed with a russian queen
or an obscure god worshipped in that area of the world
long tree
Oh right I completely forgot we're getting the stinky liars class soon aren't we
runic ether
i should look up more ancient deities worshipped in eastern europe again
summer hornet
one of his components is a character from Fate Stay Night
slow raft
or an obscure god worshipped in that area of the world
Does australia count as that area of the world?
runic ether
girl rasputin cant hurt me if i never look him up
long tree
Tfw the servant you summoned is lying to you so hard they became a class that doesn't exist
summer hornet
and another component is based on that character
runic ether
but weird
summer hornet
...I'm just gonna post it
slow raft
Post final ascension
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i do not see it
summer hornet
runic ether
yea hes rasputin
slow raft
Rejoice indeed
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was a priest
summer hornet
Post final ascension
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||His blended Heroic or Divine Spirits are Gregori Rasputin (also spelled Grigori), Azi Dahaka, and Bahloo.||
||of course they blended in zoroastrianism considering who he is||
slow raft
Those evils really do be all of the worlds
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gamilaraay culture referenced 
long tree
YOROKOBE SHOUNEN
copper steppe
the priest smiles
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persian, gamilaraay and russian history wrapped together that is hella weird
old galleon
yeah that's how alter egos are
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its p cool
summer hornet
Kotomine Kirei in Fate/Stay Night (and Zero) is a priest who questions his own inability to have positive human emotions, till Gilgamesh starts sweet talking him and convinces him to become a sadistic hedonist. He then proceeds to kill a girl, take her servant, and start seeking the Grail in order to birth All The World's Evil
runic ether
oh thats the fate stay night guy
slow raft
Which ones where meshed up in sitonai again?
I thinn she was atleast part freya
runic ether
what a strange combination
copper steppe
like a normal guy would
long tree
If it's an alter ego, fate took a blender to a bunch of characters (original and historic/fictional), if it's a pretender, they're lying, the darkness is coming
old galleon
freya is part, yes
A girl with an innocent smile. And yet, she hides an immeasurably cruel side as well. Her personality is indeed quite similar to the homunculus who serves as her body. The bravery that lets her fight so uncharacteristically for a girl her age comes from the Ainu's young heroine Sitonai. Her sympathy and melancholy towards those for whom she has deep affection comes from the goddess Freyja. The iron will that lets her murder enemies in cold blood comes from the witch Louhi.
long tree
And if it's a foreigner, the darkness is here, you cannot ignore it
runic ether
those are also some deep cut references
old galleon
Kotomine Kirei in Fate/Stay Night (and Zero) is a priest who questions his own inability to have positive human emotions, till Gilgamesh starts sweet talking him and convinces him to become a sadistic hedonist. He then proceeds to kill a girl, take her servant, and start seeking the Grail in order to birth All The World's Evil
that's a drastic time skip lol
summer hornet
I was trying to keep it brief
slow raft
Fate zero is the heartwarming story of a man who learns how to enjoy his life
summer hornet
(he is responsible for a man being set on fire)
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lucifer, if you're watching, what the fuck dude?
copper steppe
Unless it's voyager
and mhxx
summer hornet
also jfc we've been at this for four+ hours straight
slow raft
I gotta rewatch the abrigeds for both stay night and zero again
long tree
Fate zero is the heartwarming story of a man who learns how to enjoy his life
By that logic, fullmetal alchemist is a "I wanna be a real boy" story
slow raft
And?
old galleon
fate cero never finished and afaik episode 5 was wiped off of the internet
long tree
based
slow raft
Yeah
old galleon
fsn abridged is sitll going
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im walking away from this with a better appreciation for fate references and deep cuts at least
still wont get over weird genderbends
slow raft
Btw, Manann mac Lir is just him and bazett, right?
summer hornet
im walking away from this with a better appreciation for fate references and dee...
that's all we can ask
old galleon
good question
slow raft
And idk why tiamat is not a beast but what do i know
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and i'm pretty sure caren is just amore
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bazett sounds like a fake celtic name lmfao
copper steppe
super bunyan comes with learn with manga rider and assassin
runic ether
send it thru the celtic name generator
old galleon
oh bazett is a character from hollow ataraxia
slow raft
Caren is a ruler tho, right?
old galleon
full name bazette fraga mcremitz or something
summer hornet
...Bazett is a fake (as in fictional) celtic rofl
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and yes, caren is a ruler
slow raft
Bazett is one of those humans with a noble phantasm
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i tied the two together since they both debuted in hollow ataraxia and both are valentine's servants
summer hornet
summer hornet
It was passed down through her family iirc?
slow raft
She can only use fragarch cause it was handed down in her family
Her name literally being fraga lmao
old galleon
full name bazette fraga mcremitz or something
^
slow raft
Oh right, pne might forget it, but supposedly pseudo servants vessels are chosen based on compatability
Which makes snese in the case of like
Bazett and muramasa
old galleon
then why didn't shirou get artoria instead of muramasa : ^)
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thinking about it
slow raft
Idk why youd need a pseudo servant artoria
old galleon
because memes
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must be hella weird for a servant to get summoned and then learn of their legend or perception of it
old galleon
that'd probably depend on the servant
copper steppe
some are a bit surprised
old galleon
i can guarantee you some of them wouldn't give a shit
slow raft
Perception influences the servant
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gilgamesh (archer at least) is always gonna be the same arrogant guy
summer hornet
Iskandar is bemused about it, Napoleon is mildly upset about it but mostly "who cares, I look cool now!"
slow raft
So imagine how our universe would influence summoned servants
summer hornet
Most of the Arthurian knights have a huge chip on their shoulder and/or guilt complex from the fall of the Round Table
copper steppe
then there’s vlad
long tree
So imagine how our universe would influence summoned servants
Wukong finding out he can now get stronger by yelling
slow raft
For example, i think nowadays if you search astolfo, the fate version will be at the top of the results
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KAAAAA
versed pawn
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why indeed
long tree
Cause it'd piss BB off
slow raft
Based
summer hornet
the easy answer is "she felt like it"
old galleon
idk man
summer hornet
And I mean, Kiara is one half of Beast 3 after all
slow raft
Wouldt it make more sense to swap the two kiaras
old galleon
if you could ||fit the whole earth in your vagina|| you probably get some liberties
slow raft
Cause summer is the one thats fused no
versed pawn
I like haicma she's fun
summer hornet
Pretty sure she and Kama both got first choice on their servant spirit origins
slow raft
Smh, beast priveleges
That would alos mean that two beasts chose alter ego
And kama chose class advantage against them
Based
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bb and kiara are fate ocs for sure right
slow raft
Yeah
summer hornet
oh gods
long tree
Yeah
slow raft
I think bb is the reason alter egos exist
long tree
I don't think we have enough time to explain the moon cell to you
summer hornet
both of these are absolute doozies to explain
versed pawn
summer hornet
They're Fate Extra characters who had a specific crossover event (that's actually a main story chapter in disguise) to explain their integration into the FGO story and subsequent reappearances throughout the main story
And they already had massive story arcs in Fate/Extra, for the record
honest pawn
here's Amor
runic ether
cupid amor or like
honest pawn
yes
runic ether
girlified
slow raft
Idt we have enough time to explain any of the moon stuff
long tree
here's Amor
Ah yes the goddess of love (and money), make sure to give them all of your admiration (and money)
slow raft
Neither the moon cell nor the type moon
summer hornet
no, see Moon Cell is Fate/Extra
rigid pilot
All you need to know
summer hornet
Type Moon is Tsukihime and Notes
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Eros, the god of love in Greek mythology, and Amor, the god of love in Roman mythology, comprise Caren's divine core.
Although she goes by Amor in her angelic form, Caren uses her own name while in her default second Ascension form and completely rejects Eros (he's useless anyway). Furthermore, she puts impersonates Cupid, said to symbolize both of the aforementioned deities.
rigid pilot
Is BB stands for Black Blossom and is an AI that took over what is effectively, an alternate reality within the Moon and created a custom class for her
long tree
It also chose to make itself an anime girl
rigid pilot
She is an AI that mimics a FSN character, Sakura Matou
long tree
Who likes teasing people
long tree
Moon cell is pepega
rigid pilot
Kiara is the main antagonist and the manifestation of a Beast
runic ether
slow raft
God i forget, moon cell is also the whole
Altera and velber 02 stuff happens, right?
summer hornet
Extella
rigid pilot
Yes
slow raft
I think thats relevant to fgo?
summer hornet
A bit, especially for LB5 and LB7
slow raft
I can imagine
astral drift
Best kouhai
runic ether
rigid pilot
LMFAO
runic ether
What with the whole machine gods of olympus and altera having ares sword
machine gods
ok back up for a sec
rigid pilot
LOL
rigid pilot
https://tenor.com/view/higherthanakite-gif-24390061
Big boobs indeed
No BB does not stand for Big Boobs
astral drift
Bad bitch
runic ether
rigid pilot
It stands for Black Blossom or Bottom Blossom!
slow raft
And i imagine its relevant for lb7 cause what ultimately kills velber 02 is excalibur
rigid pilot
Do not spread misinformation!
slow raft
Threat against humanity and allat
long tree
The best way to deal with BB is to avoid her at all costs, but don't make it seem like you're trying to avoid her
Another day that doesn't include BB is another day that isn't a sentence away from death
rigid pilot
This is Kiara
summer hornet
machine gods
re:machine gods
runic ether
rigid pilot
Yeah FUCKING BIG
Among the Alter Egos BB makes...
Passionlip has the biggest
Literally Breast Valley
astral drift
160cm 
runic ether
her poor back
rigid pilot
REAL
slow raft
Also bb could technically be a foreigner, right?
Summer is with ||Nyarlathotep||, after all
summer hornet
FGO lore for Greek Gods is that they were all giant mechas, living spaceships from some far-off civilization that was under attack (by what, they never say) who came to Earth. (this kinda clashes with Tiamat, but they roll with it)
They split from the fleet into separate deities because of human faith, and eventually assumed human form to better walk among them
This is why Orion(but actually Artemis)'s final ascension has parts of a machine in the background
runic ether
thats kinda cool
summer hornet
This is why Odysseus' Trojan Horse is a giant transforming robot
runic ether
This is why Odysseus' Trojan Horse is a giant transforming robot
show
now
like actually
astral drift
Don't have him sorry
slow raft
Odysseus does a rider kick too, right?
summer hornet
yep!