idt i have heard of a story regarding fox spirits splitting their selves?
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runic ether
summer hornet
Extra would explain it in detail, but I never got to playing those games. FGO tells us that there's nine Tamamos, but I've forgotten most of the reasoning why
runic ether
i think thats the gameplay justification for having alternate versions released then lol
cus i have been delving some old stories rq and i cant think of one where that is the central point of the story
copper steppe
each of them are one of the tails of amaterasu irrc
versed pawn
do it coward 
astral drift
the casino one?
summer hornet
do it coward <a:smugZ:732430968480202752>
no u 
summer hornet
the casino one?
ye
versed pawn
i dont even play the game so i dont even know what it looks like 
astral drift
summer hornet
spoilered ascension 1 because of the zippers, and final ascension should probably be spoilered too because that's a Lot
runic ether
that is an ass
ok but also i just
idt amaterasu has no real close association with fox spirits
versed pawn
im just at the pgr dc where its constant sfw horni 
runic ether
amaterasu is associated with dragons and snakes primarily
digital marlin
Extra would explain it in detail, but I never got to playing those games. FGO te...
She gained nine tails during extra to save her master(mc) and split them up because she didn't want to become like amterasu
And each of those tails gained self awareness
runic ether
ah okay
as in gaining divinity
still not really based on any particular historical story
copper steppe
yes they did gain divinity
digital marlin
And yeah Og Tama was Amterasu reincarnation in Fate
runic ether
but i can get that as part of a story
versed pawn
Mech riding girl is based tho
copper steppe
some even gaining the capability to become ||beasts||
digital marlin
The tail splitting is Extra CCC stuff
runic ether
And yeah Og Tama was Amterasu reincarnation in Fate
hm interesting spin i guess
in any case i understand not liking the design a bit
the bottom right design is closest to a japanese design or inspired
everything else looks way too modern
astral drift
because she's also ||Ikusautsuwa-no-Oomikami||
copper steppe
there’s a very funny reason why
old galleon
part of koyanskaya's thing is wearing different outfits in every lostbelt
so you get that sort of thing
runic ether
because she's also ||Ikusautsuwa-no-Oomikami||
huh
thats a real deep cut
hey i mean
i assume u mean ikusa no okimi tho
copper steppe
what did the writers smoke while writing koyanskaya lore
astral drift
don't worry about it
old galleon
what was nasu cooking
digital marlin
Trying to expect koyan to go Into the typical Japanese clothing would be not right
old galleon
we been doing this for 30 years : ^)
digital marlin
Considering her as a character and her role tbh
runic ether
ah okay its fate specific lore for the design
summer hornet
There's probably a place somewhere that has a list of all her costume sprites
Because Koyanskaya definitely is a contender for most costumes
astral drift
i assume u mean ikusa no okimi tho
i just remembered her mentioning this in lb7, but don't remember the spelling so i had to look it up in the wiki
digital marlin
Yeah also Can't really talk to much about it with out going into spoilers
runic ether
ikusa no okimi was a waka poet wayyyy back in like
digital marlin
Well I can say she's also an arms dealers too
runic ether
the 600s or so
astral drift
read tunguska sanctuary for the loooooooooore
runic ether
7th century
copper steppe
end of the year baby
summer hornet
spoilered the ones with cleavage because I can't trust my own sense on those things anymore
summer hornet
read tunguska sanctuary for the loooooooooore
also this event literally isn't even out in NA yet lmao
digital marlin
Lb4 is my favorite
runic ether
in any case i see the fox themeing so that is consistent everything else has liberties for sure
copper steppe
yes
runic ether
and as the true arbiter of all character designs, i deem her design... confusing but ok i guess
maybe if i knew fate lore or story itd make more sense
copper steppe
to know the lore you would have to read the 50 pages long description on the type moon wiki
runic ether
yea im not doing that
copper steppe
its for the better
digital marlin
Let's just drag Ultra into fgo
rigid pilot
@runic ether thoughts?
runic ether
hm
copper steppe
reading the page about magecraft in the wiki was a trip
runic ether
cant quite id the seal in teh center
militaristic outfit
though
seems solid
cape is impracticle thoug
h
rigid pilot
It's Oda Nobunaga btw
runic ether
eh
astral drift
reading the page about magecraft in the wiki was a trip
digital marlin
Talking about practically in anime designs
runic ether
i have seen way worse nobunaga designs
summer hornet
reading the page about magecraft in the wiki was a trip
also fun fact, apparently there's a ton of details on a Japanese interview regarding Apocrypha that were completely faked by some guy who wanted to spread an agenda
copper steppe
me when i purposefully spread misinformation on the internet
runic ether
i see him drawn as an anime hunk a lot
iirc nobunaga was described as a smaller man all things considered
the long hair and styled 20th century military outfit look fits him well
rigid pilot
Oh Nobu is a girl in Fate
old galleon
yeah that happens a lot
runic ether
i know king arthur is made into a girl in fate that one i know
copper steppe
and depending where she was summoned, probably is a psycopath
old galleon
saber was the original, yes
runic ether
i never understood arthur being turned into a girl
long tree
i never understood arthur being turned into a girl
When in doubt, blame merlin
digital marlin
If it makes you feel better we have a male arthur
old galleon
and he has a female merlin : ^)
long tree
Doesn't prototypes merlin get off on giving him super difficult tasks or whatever
summer hornet
male Arthur kinda cute ngl
old galleon
wouldn't surprise me in the least
long tree
Male Arthur looks like generic fantasy anime op protagonist no.10128 but he was before then so it's okay
rigid pilot
Boobs
summer hornet
astral drift
why nero girl
why not
runic ether
hes a twink lmfao
old galleon
tbf the white suit skin is neat
astral drift
let's turn everyone into girls
summer hornet
There are servants with an explanation, and servants without an explanation for their genderbend
Nero is the latter
astral drift
wait no i wouldn't have quartz left
digital marlin
let's turn everyone into girls
alright your first
digital marlin
She is *cracked* for almost no reason
but can she sing?
astral drift
alright your first
gudako accepts
old galleon
she does feature on the joint recital ce with liz, so
summer hornet
her singing is a literal weapon
rigid pilot
Next one. Britomart
summer hornet
why would you do Britomart next
runic ether
do you have any idea how little "britomart" narrows this down
old galleon
that britomart one is bait lmao
long tree
Imperial privilege literally says "are you bad at thing? Yes? No you're not"
rigid pilot
Uhhhh I believe she is the Nymph Britomart
digital marlin
lets do kintoki
long tree
So yes
runic ether
britomartis?
runic ether
its a very busy design
long tree
Yes but it's cool
runic ether
way too modern
rigid pilot
Kintoki is a good call
old galleon
i'm not a huge fan of his regular outfits but his heian one is great
copper steppe
...wait until you see the other one
we do a miniscule amount of trolling
astral drift
pool floats 
rigid pilot
runic ether
kintaro
hm
they really wore the "gold child" theme on the nose in that 1st art huh
runic ether
kintaro means golden child so it tracks
old galleon
ye
old galleon
the biker is actually a separate unit
slow raft
in one of em hes a rider
old galleon
the first two are his 5* berserker, the biker is a 4* rider
digital marlin
They gave this man a cycle
old galleon
he's a great unit too
runic ether
its cool
old galleon
to this day still one of the best welfares in the game and he's been out for 5 years
runic ether
i like that they just wore the golden child theme so hard on the sleeve
2nd one feels meh
but i like the 1st and 3rd
old galleon
GOLDEN DRIVE
rigid pilot
Karna
digital marlin
2nd one feels meh
summer hornet
It's a valid opinion
runic ether
vasusena?
thats actually a pretty cool design
the divine breastplate
im guessing the 2nd art is when he loses the armor and indra gives him the missile
rigid pilot
A biiit more complicated but yes
runic ether
does he have a bow?
copper steppe
he turns into the indian equivalent to a super saiyan
runic ether
i cant tell
summer hornet
It's a spear
rigid pilot
Nope
copper steppe
he can be summoned as rider or archer but they don’t show
rigid pilot
Fate justifies is by saying he is so powerful in his archer form that no human mage can sustain him
As a Rider or Archer
rigid pilot
Arjuna is an archer
old galleon
||and a berserker||
runic ether
okay
long tree
He's also one of the few archers to actually use a fucking bow
summer hornet
kinda?
runic ether
but arjuna isnt so powerful as to be unable to use a bow
old galleon
something something the archer class really is made up of archers grumble
runic ether
what
copper steppe
prevalent joke of the series
long tree
what
The archer class in fate also encompasses thrown weaponry and guns
So a lot of archers aren't archers
runic ether
arjuna is was literally the greatest archer in the entire world according to his myth
summer hornet
Archers in FGO have used bows, but also Gate of Babylon, slingshots, dolphins, sheep, and fists (technically he uses a bow but it's an afterthought)
old galleon
tawara has a bow but also throws bales of hay at things
rigid pilot
Yeahhhhh in Fate, Arjuna even has clairvoyance to pair
copper steppe
arjuna also has a tactical nuke
slow raft
Archers in FGO have used bows, but also Gate of Babylon, slingshots, dolphins, s...
grand archer be like "throwing hands counts as a projectile, right?"
long tree
FLETCH ME THOSE HANDS BOY
runic ether
im just wondering why arjuna can use a bow but karna cant since they are pretty equal in strength with a bow iirc
its the big debate of the mahabharata lol
who was the better archer
karna never got a real chance to prove himself in a fair fight
but karna's divine breastplate would render him unkillable (maybe) to arjuna
long tree
im just wondering why arjuna can use a bow but karna cant since they are pretty ...
Basically fate classes are like "if you can do something decently well you get the chance to be that class"
So a Karna archer exists, we just haven't seen it
runic ether
but in the end, according to the mahabharata, arjuna is the greatest archer in the world
runic ether
Fate justifies is by saying he is so powerful in his archer form that no human m...
my sister said this
so i assume it just is an inconsistency
ok i will say
i cant think of any other weapon that arjuna uses
so i guess for gameplay
or to not need to make a bunch of shit up for arjuna
long tree
Karna is a lancer iirc
runic ether
bc of indra's missile
though karna only uses it once
it was a one time use thing nvm
still ig it can justify
long tree
"Vasavi Shakti" I think is the name of it
long tree
rigid pilot
Fate gave it a name
long tree
Ye
runic ether
ah fate oc
long tree
I was just referring to the fate thing cause I know next to nothing about their actual counterparts
runic ether
ig the name is p solid
runic ether
I was just referring to the fate thing cause I know next to nothing about their ...
i know only of the real story of the mahabharata and real-life history
lol
old galleon
O.o
summer hornet
lmao
runic ether
its a pretty accurate aztec warrior outfit i guess
im guessing she is water or storm themed
rigid pilot
Uhhh she kinda has themes in regards yes
But she embodies Tenochtitlan more than Tlaloc
runic ether
honestly im just not gonna get over a city being personified and turned into a white anime girl
instant disdain from me so next
runic ether
is her outfit themed only dark bc she is "the shadow"
lol
i actually dont dislike it
old galleon
aight i got a 'fun one'
runic ether
is she using the gae bulg
runic ether
hm yea i have seen him
old galleon
cu is based
runic ether
super blue
not sure about the body-suit
not very reminiscent of a warrior of his time
long tree
Have cu caster
summer hornet
oh boy
long tree
Cause why not
runic ether
oh i like that outfit a lot more actually
runic ether
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/c/c2/S103_Stage1.webp/re...
american furries
why did edison become a furry in fate
do i wanna know?
long tree
And finally here's cu alter
slow raft
not sure about the body-suit
whenever a character in fate wears a bodysuit its a standin for the fact that they couldnt get away with making them naked
old galleon
the alters tend to be pretty edgy yeah
slow raft
cu, scatah and avenger nobu i think fall under this
idle grove
oh are we playing this game tonight
old galleon
as for edison being a lion, idfk, i don't remember if that ever got explained
runic ether
well for edison's case its just so out there
old galleon
but he does have the concept of american presidents supporting him
runic ether
cu, scatah and avenger nobu i think fall under this
let. them. hang.
long tree
And finally here's cu alter
He was made from a wish from queen medb on the holy grail for "a wicked ruler similar to medb and cu"
runic ether
oh
thats kinda pepega
cu's whole deal with mebd was that he just didnt care for her at all
runic ether
mr mccool
this is okay actually
kinda like the silver to blue
i like finn's tales
guessing he has the whole thumb of knowledge
slow raft
iirc edison is every president + the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Lion + edison
idle grove
yeah lancer
rigid pilot
The base classes are
Saber, Lancer, Archer
these are easy enough to understand
Rider is those who are famous for using various different weapons and are known for their ability to ride on horseback or famous charioteers and sailors
Mebd being an exception
she is a Rider of men
idle grove
basically just mounts
runic ether
real
idle grove
oh I saw tlaloc was up there
rigid pilot
This actually encompases a lot more than you think though
idle grove
have we done Tez yet
rigid pilot
Mozart and Shakespear are Casters
rigid pilot
have we done Tez yet
Nope
runic ether
Mozart and Shakespear are Casters
under what logic?
their music or orating skills magical?
rigid pilot
Kinda
idle grove
well there are 3 wildly different arts for him so imma post those spoilered for people
runic ether
iirc edison is every president + the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Lion + edison
weird culmination but sure
idle grove
Enjoy, Tezcatlipoca
long tree
Shakespeares being able to solve everything is actually considered not just magic, but busted ass broken magic
He can solve literally any question
runic ether
that is an interesting design
that initial modern-look is pretty cool
but why is he white
long tree
Shakespeares being able to solve everything is actually considered not just magi...
He also does drugs
idle grove
Fate be like that unfortunately ¯_(ツ)_/¯
runic ether
its an auto-turn off
pass on it
actively kinda drags both designs of mexican dieties shown so far down
rigid pilot
I still like Tlaloc 😭
long tree
Unless you're from Egypt, your most likely going to be whitewashed in fate (at least I think they got most of the Egyptian based characters the right skin colour)
Oh shit I almost forgot best boy
Pharaoh ozymandias
runic ether
ramses the 2nd
hes a lot youger looking what i expected
his is fine too
very affluent looking but that bodysuit
runic ether
yea it just looks weird on what would be a pharoah
long tree
Here ya go
runic ether
oh good
that is actually a lot better
good design
looks wealthy and regal overall
idle grove
do you like vtubers
runic ether
still too much like an anime pretty-boy but thats to be expected
idle grove
if so you will enjoy sei shonagon
runic ether
do you like vtubers
not really no
idle grove
slow raft
you might know the artist for this char from fe engage
idle grove
also the artist actually did a vtubers art iirc
long tree
She uses modern slang and stuff in her speach
rigid pilot
Let's do Sigurd next
runic ether
hm
idle grove
he did Hakos Baelz and Kaguya Luna iirc
runic ether
what about this says
u know
nvm
its cool
but this doesnt tell me that this guy is sigurd
is that supposed to be gram
rigid pilot
Yes
runic ether
i mean sure
summer hornet
runic ether
ig so
rigid pilot
I got one more in me then I'm back to work
rigid pilot
Qin Shi Huang
ebon quartz
Oh have you shown off Jalter faces?
runic ether
that is absolutely a fucking design wow
its... regal
but they sluttified him lmfao
ebon quartz
I prefer teh record of ragnarok design for him lmao
runic ether
i like it but that is a wild redesign of him
ebon quartz
rigid pilot
Oh have you shown off Jalter faces?
We have not
ebon quartz
Jalter just has the best faces in the game with her sprites.
runic ether
jalter being?
rigid pilot
Good ole Joan
ebon quartz
runic ether
right what is the deal with alters
ebon quartz
runic ether
is it just a game excuse to have an evil form
ebon quartz
These faces lmao
runic ether
she has some funny expressions there
she has some good looks of disdain i appreciate it
long tree
ebon quartz
She's also one of the hardest hitting servants in the game.
astral drift
is it just a game excuse to have an evil form
i've not seen bottom left and third from bottom row
long tree
Have Santa alter
astral drift
long tree
Because nothing says Christmas like deep purple and red
long tree
Arthur
honest pawn
man I just want to get the 180-ish SQ that JP got fir their 6th anni
runic ether
anyways of all the designs shown i like karna, kintaro, and ramses the most with finn being there too
scathach is not bad at all too
def hated tlaloc and tezcatlipoca the most off the basis that they are white
karna being white is acceptable i guess since he was described of pale skin in the mahabharata before
summer hornet
Thanks for playing our game! Was pretty fun seeing your thoughts, ngl
runic ether
yea to clarify, i minored in world history
i know a lot about historical myths and figures
i have gone thru the mahabharata for example
and am very familiar with the tales of king arthur and japanese mythologies
and of course
as someone who is mexican i know a lot about aztec culture and gods
glossy latch
Why are half the mythological figures genderbent in fate anyway
summer hornet
It varies every time
runic ether
i can think of a few where itd be like
sure i guess
bc some have unclear gender
or rather
have interesting implications in regards
ie: cu chulainn
summer hornet
sometimes it's "actually they were female", sometimes it's "they're from a different timeline where they were born female", sometimes it's "they were replaced by someone connected to them who's female due to eldritch entity shenanigans"
runic ether
cu chulainn can be theorized to have been a trans man
glossy latch
It just feels ... weird idk
summer hornet
cu chulainn can be theorized to have been a trans man
ooh, I did not know that
runic ether
inability to grow facial hair
glossy latch
I mean I know it was originally basically smut or something but still
runic ether
he was unaffected by a curse that forced his platoon to feel the pains of a womans menstrual time
old galleon
fate/stay night is an eroge, yes
runic ether
he was also insanely short
not characteristic of cis men during his time
and region
old galleon
it has connections with nasu's other work but that was the first entry in the fate series, that i'm aware of
runic ether
and was never able to develop a ton of visible muscle
summer hornet
That sounds like a Mulan situation
old galleon
stay night and hollow ataraxia are both eroge, then over time they went away from that for what i'd think are obvious reasons
glossy latch
Yeah
But idk, Ive always had my issues with the Fate designs randomly genderbending for what feels like no reason?
astral drift
money is a good reason
runic ether
money tho
summer hornet
Sometimes it's interesting and valid, like UV said
runic ether
there are plenty of women in history they could use
summer hornet
but sometimes it's. Not.
glossy latch
there are plenty of women in history they could use
Thats my other issue cuz like
Im pretty sure a lot of the interesting female figures in myth or history arent used
Like the chinese pirate who ended up commanding the largest pirate fleet at the time
Whose name eludes me
runic ether
i think thats too easy an opportunity to not use em
summer hornet
A thing I've heard people bring up with Drake before is that they could have just used
yeah that one
runic ether
zheng yi sao
summer hornet
though I've also heard the theory that Drake is Queen Elizabeth taking up her old lover's title
runic ether
iirc
astral drift
you might be interested in this one
lb7 spoilers ||camazotz||
runic ether
wait is zheng yi sao not used?
old galleon
not that i'm aware of
glossy latch
Yeah Zheng Yi Sao
old galleon
if they're used anywhere it's not in fgo
glossy latch
And I dont believe she is
summer hornet
I had to double check because I thought she appeared in Requiem, but no
runic ether
you might be interested in this one
lb7 spoilers ||camazotz||
this is really well done
long tree
My favourite part about zhuge Liang in fate is it's literally not him
glossy latch
Like it feels like they just genderbend known figures for hornybait
long tree
Guy literally tricked a Japanese highschooler dumbass to do his job for him
runic ether
interesting use of the k'iche language to name the character
runic ether
though I've also heard the theory that Drake is Queen Elizabeth taking up her ol...
thats
certainly a thing
is francis drake also genderbent
lol
old galleon
yup
runic ether
if they're used anywhere it's not in fgo
thatd be wild
i guess fate just doesnt touch many pirates in general
old galleon
she first showed up in fate/extra alongside nero & friends
runic ether
zheng yi sao is probably the most successful or among the most successful pirates of all time
long tree
They got Blackbeard
long tree
That's something
old galleon
bartholomew roberts
glossy latch
I mean she is notably a pirate who managed to live a pretty long and peaceful life
honest pawn
there are some depictions that are gags though and it kinda sucks?
old galleon
anne bonny and mary read
summer hornet
Anne and Mary, and Columbus (if he counts)
long tree
(Blackbeard in fate is a degenerate weeb)
glossy latch
She was a pirate, then quit being a pirate by negotiating with the ...
Uh
Who was in power at the time
old galleon
i absolutely count columbus lmao
honest pawn
Edward Teach is a weeb with a hook hand and Caesar is fat
old galleon
yup
runic ether
why?
honest pawn
yeah, a degenerate
long tree
honest pawn
I don't know why the series has a random tendency to use some characters as gags
old galleon
blackbeard has 3 ascensions worth of serious art and his np uses queen anne's revenge
then his final ascension art is that
and most of his characterization is as the gag character
long tree
So Blackbeard's thing is fear
summer hornet
People have gone all the way round the bend to suggest "no, it's all a gambit by Blackbeard to throw off his enemies"
runic ether
we already genderbent king arthur and nero claudius
long tree
When you've got elder gods and shit on their level
What's scarier than a degenerate weeb
(especially one who has in the past tied shit to their beard and lit it on fire)
runic ether
Edward Teach is a weeb with a hook hand and Caesar is fat
caesar as in gaius julius or caesarion his son?
honest pawn
Gaius Julius
old galleon
What's scarier than a degenerate weeb
||a faerie||
runic ether
is he just fat for fat jokes?
long tree
||a faerie||
We do not talk about that member of the sakura 4
honest pawn
I don't even know but he's just fat for some reason
I could also complain about the historical accuracy of his outfit but that's a double standard
runic ether
caesar was not known to be a skinny man
attractive when not plagued by malaria but not skinny or in-shape
long tree
A fair amount Caesars bit is "if I were in shape" iirc
runic ether
but i wouldnt say he was fat
old galleon
he's definitely fat in fate, at least as a saber
haven't seen any of his other possible classes yet
runic ether
thats a loot bigger than i expected
honest pawn
probably my favorite character in FGO behind Karna is Nobunaga though
runic ether
shame hes used as a gag though
summer hornet
When Caesar's not fretting about his weight, he's trying to pull scams
glossy latch
Setting aside how off-putting that is
long tree
He should be able to be a rider?
long tree
If so he'll likely have a skinnier version in that if ever
summer hornet
Or romance Cleopatra
runic ether
yeah it is definitely a more modern outfit
but it seems fate does modern outfits for their characters across arts i noticed
glossy latch
Like this isnt Caesar
old galleon
most characters have 3 or 4 different artworks showing them in various outfits
glossy latch
This is fucking Fat Byakuya Togami
old galleon
caesar's just adds some armor on him but keeps the same base design
summer hornet
oh, by the way Ovven
long tree
A lot of what shapes fate characters are their perceptions, so the idea of what people should've looked like changes
summer hornet
Cleopatra
runic ether
is that the fucking danganronpa artist
old galleon
yoinked straight out of danganronpa
long tree
glossy latch
Cleopatra
I have heard
There are 2 that are DR
Thats the other one
Dante ... something?
summer hornet
lmao yep
runic ether
its not a bad design but im instantly in fight or flight mode when i see dangan ronpa artist
old galleon
edmond dantes, yes
summer hornet
Edmond Dantes, Count of Monte Cristo
glossy latch
Dantes design slaps tbh
runic ether
either of them
long tree
My man literally just used one of his characters from danganrompa 2
long tree
This is literally just fuckin
runic ether
i remember him from his appearance in type lumina
long tree
old galleon
who wants to post literally mythra for them
glossy latch
Even if the art is a bit ... odd
summer hornet
who wants to post literally mythra for them
oh gosh, Bradamante?
runic ether
i actually cannot take either seriously
glossy latch
Only thing I dont get is why his hair is white
As for Cleopatra
Idk that doesnt look like Cleopatra to me
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anime white hair
does she get more traditional pharaoh styled clothing in later arts?
cus yea i get the picture with fate
they have a modern look
and then a more traditional design
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'cause this isn't Edmond Dantes this is a manifestation of his hatred and vengeance iirc
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thats
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'cause this isn't Edmond Dantes this is a manifestation of his hatred and vengea...
He's also our protector against mental attacks iirc
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hmm wait a sec
long tree
Man literally hops in our mind in our sleep to keep us safe
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wait tits are out in that painting
that looks reminiscent of the work of jean-leone gerome's painting of cleopatra
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The way you phrased that
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The way you phrased that
gerome's painting has cleopatra with her tits out to caesar
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I mean its just kind of a basic dress
Im not sure its particularly egyptian
The fabric isnt very modern I suppose but idk
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i dont expect her to be garbed in truly "traditional" egyptian clothing
cleopatra was a member of the ptolemic dynasty and their clothing style mirrored more on the european/roman style
on top of her multiple visits to rome itself
i actually think that art (besides the artist) is quite fitting
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I feel so bad for the danganrompa artist no one is ever gonna take what they draw seriously
But at the same time
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real
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I do know that Yami hates the indian servants in fate given, yknow
Theyre not very accurate to the faith
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damn i only saw karna
but thats like
the only one that can be reasonably justified as white
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who do we have right now
karna
arjuna
rama
(not sita, because she's stuck in arcade etc)
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stuck in arcade?
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parvati
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wait how do u have rama without sita
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JP just got Bhima, Duryodhana and Durga
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curse of separation lol
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parvati and kama are stuck with the terminal illness of sakuraface
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they are cursed to not see each other
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I know that Ganesha is uh
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ganesha, yes
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Very not good
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the throne of heroes said to rama eat shit
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bhimas np is so cool actually
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y'all gonna drop jinako on them lol
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honest pawn
has anyone showed Misty Vritra
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oh yeah vritra exists too
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Marked as spoiler in case they don't want to take psychic damage
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tbf thats also not actually supposed to be ganesha, no?
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wh*te
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ashvatthaman
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why
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jinako is a human character from fate/extra
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pseudo servant
honest pawn
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in fate theres certain things youre not supposed to be able to summon
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what are
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fate does this thing sometimes where they take servants and put them in the bodies of established characters
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divine spirits for example
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But yeah you can see why Yami hates Fate 
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so the workarounf is that they take a host body and just insrert themself into that
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so like for example, ishtar in fgo is in the body of one rin tohsaka
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ah so they just jam them as mixed with pre-established characters
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basically
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rin has eresh and ishtar, sakura has kama, parvati
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but thats not a bad thing
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um
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yeah, legendary Japanese blacksmith Muramasa got summoned in the body of the MC from F/SN
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Vritra's a girl- or more specifically has a female body
copper steppe
shirou is muramasa and he talks like a old man
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indra kills u and u become a woman
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amakusa shirou, yes
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pretty sure they said Vritra can take any form they like, just chose to go girl
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🏳️⚧️?
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"Vritra being summoned in female form is something of a mystery. Perhaps she's imitating Rambha, a prominent beauty who was sent by Indra as a part of his scheme to entrance Vritra to the point of death, or perhaps she chose to become a beautiful woman to make a statement about never falling for Indra's cowardly schemes.
She transcends notions of gender, and her essential traits and persona remain the same regardless of how she presents in this respect. The Servant Vritra's feminine characteristics are, accordingly, based on those of the period in which she manifests."
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in other words "we wanted to make a hot indian character so here you go"
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oh okay so they def kinda bsing it just for the sake of girl
i kinda respect that
at least her skin is befitting of an indian character
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rama tho has a dark complexion so if fate rama doesnt i can absolutely get why ppl from india wouldnt be a fan
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That one comic ClinickCase made about the teeth came to mind
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arjuna better be dark skinned too or im gonna lose it lmao
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arjuna is dark skinned, yes
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rama is white
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the lighter skin indians i can immediately recall are karna, rama, and parvati
also durga in some of her arts
astral drift
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Kama too
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rama is actually a guy
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why he got like a bunnysuit on
copper steppe
no
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why he got like a bunnysuit on
why not
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parvati/kama/durga have the whole 'summoned in sakura's body' thing going
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parvati/kama/durga have the whole 'summoned in sakura's body' thing going
psuedo-servant hm
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i like the glasses version more
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kama can be a girl thats fine tho
i was gonna bring up
if kama is in fate they can justify it
cus of kamakhya
durga better have like
6 arms tho
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sure
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i like the glasses version more
That ones on Arjuna alter, Arjuna has the onsen one lol
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not super accurate but sure
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one of the most kino things they ever did was giving Oda Nobunaga 3 separate ascension that represented different stages in Nobu's life
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That ones on Arjuna alter, Arjuna has the onsen one lol
... is arjuna alter white to be like the opposite of him
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no
honest pawn
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i would have laughed
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lol??
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arjuna alter makes him even hotter
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still
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yea my sister started this off with showing me nobunaga
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maou nobu my beloved
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i like the military outfit
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actually pretty cool
what with the stars floating over him and holding another in hand
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yeah
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whole can of worms
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you could just post the 1 and spoiler it if you think it's that bad
i wouldn't post her final tho
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either final
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Not an Arjuna alter guy as you can tell by 0 bond but the FA is sick
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catboy twink arjuna
real
ok but like
arjuna was described as being slender
"handsome as a virgin and soft-hearted despite a will of steel"
so beautiful was arjuna that all the princesses and his wives and ladies in waiting offered themselves to him immediately, for it was their honor to be with him, rather than the other way around
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literally a harem protagonist lmao
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he had 4 wives
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this makes Arjuna and Karna's valentines scenes even more precious
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and many more ladies-win-waiting
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Very popular gudako pairing
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the alter is very edgy
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and her idol skin as a bonus ||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/2/2b/S120_Costume1.webp/revision/latest?cb=20220911064132||
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this one is just a bit too basic?
idol skin
ok sure why not
uhh whats with the ears
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the Alter goes so hard I love everything about the art
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anubis, innit?
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aye fair enough
slow raft
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offer thy neck
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the first hassan
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hassan-i-sabbah
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we affectionately call him gramps
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actually pretty cool design huhh
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the old man of the mountain
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yeah there are few hassans in the series
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stay night gave us cursed arm, zero gave us hundred personas, and prisma illya i think originated serenity
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technically there are no witnesses if you kill all of them
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||and strange fake is its own can of worms||
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ah yes, good ol' one punch man himself
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i also had thought that fate generally draws from historical figures a lot farther back
there are ppl alive today that could have known li shuwen
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by its own lore, the older a legend, the more powerful the servant
so voyager is significantly less powerful than like
gilgamesh
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yeah a lot of the characters are older, but there is some draw from recent-ish history
the literal voyager space probe being an example lol
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hans and shakespeare come to mind too
wait no what am i saying
i started with hans and my mind defaulted to writers
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tbf hans and shakespeare are often paired specifically because they are writers
you could combine them with shikibu and get a whole writing club going
||habetrot would probably be the first recruit||
speaking of
murasaki shikibu
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by its own lore, the older a legend, the more powerful the servant
that makes sense but when u say voyager u mean like
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||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/5/55/S237_Stage3.webp/...
very good art actually
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RaitaGOD
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you prefer the swimsuit arts and you know it
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must be weird having servants dressed more traditionally and then theres others dressed like they walk around los angeles or new york
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the space probe
yes
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yeah it varies a fair bit
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yes
how do u humanize and justify a space probe
real talk
what class do they even fall into
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that's some fate requiem shit i honestly don't remember off the top of my head
their class in fgo at least is foreigner
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Their class is actually Voyager iirc? But they changed it to Foreigner for FGO gameplay purposes
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me when i travel outside of the us
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funny thing is that the foreigners were mostly these lovecraftian things
but then they throw random units in the class for gameplay purposes
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You remember what I said a few hours back about replacing people with females connected to them because of eldritch shenanigans?
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yea
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foreigner is just outside of the domain, but technically that should include all servantverse characters iirc?
my nasue lore is spotty
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gotta have a way to categorize external threats
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this is "katsushika hokusai"
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i love him
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yes, that is also katsushika hokusai : ^)
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to people
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You remember what I said a few hours back about replacing people with females co...
.
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im not surprised by fate making hokusai a girl im just curious how they draw into the whole lovecraftian thing
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so now hes a crechure
but thats kinda funny
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the girl is katsushika oei iirc
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oh thats
ok so
how does it work then?
hokusai and his daughter are one servant or is it like
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i mean theres other cases of two servant deals
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||https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/f/f4/S198_Stage3.webp/...
i was expecting some more unhinged designs
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this is relatively tame comparatively, yes
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especially when dealing with lovecraftian horrors
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iirc hokusai's associated one is cthulhu
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rigid pilot
Yes Cthulu
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oh lol i get it
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there's one i'm not posting here bc she's a literal child
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the one len posted is a great example tho
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haha yea
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Abigail Williams is Yog-Sothoth
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vulthoom
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molay is shubb
jacque du molay??
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same
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ye
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You remember what I said a few hours back about replacing people with females co...
One last time for good measure
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yang guifei is cthuga
real
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Onore arcade…
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||Euclid in Fate/Requiem is also a Foreigner||
Hastur
Wait this might be a spoiler for Fate/Requiem
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voyager is also technically a fusion
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that is def requiem spoiler territory yes
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how much of requiem is translated anyway
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i'm gonna be running through strange fake but if we have good requiem translations i can go through them afterward
rigid pilot
Uhhh a decent chunk
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with little prince
hm interesting
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There’s still only like 2 or 3 volumes released, no?