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#Gacha Chat
dull bridge
old galleon
congrats
glossy latch
Legitimately the only character Im missing now that I want is a 4*
Who continues to elude me
old galleon
sampo or tingyun?
glossy latch
Sampo
Ive got Tingyun ages ago, I think I even have her eidolon 1
Ye I do
But Sampo continues to elude me
Shifty bastard >:[
Honestly my luck so far has been insane
With exactly the exception of getting Sampo
summer hornet
It fits with the character, ngl
glossy latch
Like I got Seele from the banner after 50 rolls, got Welt from a 10 pull right after pulling a 5* (though admitively that was a Lightcone) and I have a bunch of decent Eidolons on 4*s already
But Sampo
Sampo continues to be a bastard
Anyway Ill try another 10 pull after ascending a few characters
... huh?
????????
... 3 5* in a row
Another lightcone this time so its not as absurd as it could've been but
Wtf
Also Pela 3 but still no Sampo
summer hornet
He clearly knows you're gonna put him to work lol
(really I think it's just Gacha Things, he has to come eventually)
glossy latch
Im still confused by me getting 3 5* in a row
I didnt even have time to reach soft pity
I almost feel obligated to play Natasha now to use that lightcone
(Its Bailus signature one)
I guess the 5* ill eventually pick from the guarantee is Bailu, too
Might as well if I got her lightcone
Is this how the gacha gets you
summer hornet
I don't want to say "yes", but...
glossy latch
But yeah now I just eventually need Kafka and Sampo for a DoT team
... also I have every element now huh
At least the good news is that after the quests are all done there is nothing to do in the game til another update 
long tree
I guess the 5* ill eventually pick from the guarantee is Bailu, too
Do you have bronya?
glossy latch
Nope
long tree
Oh, am confusion then
glossy latch
Im just not that interested in Bronya, and I got Bailus signature light cone soooo
long tree
If it were my choice I'd probably always pick bronya above anything else, her buffs are insane and natasha does good enough healing
But I respect it
old galleon
one of them is cdawg, one of them is gigguk, not sure if peak is one of the ones in question but yeah, they had some miner voices
long tree
Heh
glossy latch
If it were my choice I'd probably always pick bronya above anything else, her bu...
Tbh I also dont know what team Id run Bronya in
Plus I think Tingyun does a good enough job?
long tree
That's also fair
old galleon
that would be a pretty standard offense comp
old galleon
if you're setting her up to carry, yes
summer hornet
Lmfao okay yeah, the next pair of miners (technically ||vagrants||) are Garnt and Joey
old galleon
i'd probably overall recommend a more balanced comp for most purposes
but there is content that runs on a timer
summer hornet
Connor's sounded like him but it was so different from his usual that I could barely recognize it
summer hornet
||WE GET TO BEAT UP JOEY AND GARNT?!||
old galleon
yes
summer hornet
You mean Jotlico or me?
old galleon
i'm pretty sure 2 teams is only relevant in forbidden hall
although you might have more units raised anyway for different contexts
glossy latch
Ye I meant Jot
I see
Well, I have a second team in mind
I just need a certain 4* unit
Alright, story done
Bit of a weird place to end on tbh
||Feels like the entire Dan Shu part should've happened before the fight with the deer?||
long tree
summer hornet
It feels like people from all over the internet came together for this game lol
FGO, Arknights, Genshin, even people who aren't usually into gachas
old galleon
FGO, Arknights, Genshin
it's not at all surprising that players of these games would try it out
especially genshin
late canopy
Genshin take mucho time
Speaking of which I started Genshin back up again a few days ago
A break was indeed all I needed
glossy latch
I tried Genshin briefly
But I recall it running like ass on my phone, and on my PC I just have better things to play
summer hornet
More or less same here, at least for the most part
glossy latch
Granted now I play Star Rail on my PC anyway >.>
Ill probably only do dailies now that Im done with the story thouggh
Back to MMBN it is
summer hornet
she REALLY sounds like Calliope Mori
dull bridge
bro
i want tingyun and bronya rly bad
so i can build hyperdamage yanqing
its at the point i wanna spend
but like
thats stupid
dull bridge
let me rephrase my seentence
ebon quartz
dull bridge
i WANT bronya i NEED tingyun
bronya can be replaced
she is the besty supp
but like
ebon quartz
I have Tingyun, need Bronya
glossy latch
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/V-kieWEOXnIDSNiIpqpUobCg3et1QXMYMZX...
Trailblazer and Trashcans
ebon quartz
I need bigger numbies
dull bridge
im only doing like
7-8k
consistently
i need any support
like
my team is so sad
ebon quartz
Yeah I'm only lvl 40 without any good gear.
summer hornet
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/V-kieWEOXnIDSNiIpqpUobCg3et1QXMYMZX...
H o n e s t l y
dull bridge
mine are level 60 ;-;
with like decent gear
they just have like NO buffs
because i havent gotten any fucking supports
kinda malding ngl
but whatever
ebon quartz
H o n e s t l y
If I had a nickel for every gay paring in a huge eastern mmo that was gay as fuck but never out right said it I'd have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot but weird that I've seen it twice.
glossy latch
Gotta dance around the chinese censors
ebon quartz
Ah yes, Ilya
summer hornet
She's much more pacifistic than Illya... But that isn't really saying much lol
ebon quartz
Mr Svarog means business
summer hornet
He's so cool
ebon quartz
I think he's honestly one of my favorite robot designs.
Oh @summer hornet go back to the snow town and check the trash cans.
Our mc is unhinged and I'm here for it
You can also hide in a closet and ||fight off a devil||
summer hornet
Oh yeah, I saw XD
I spent like a whole day IRL exploring trash cans... I didn't know about MC being in the closet though
ebon quartz
If you go to the fancy hotel and just walk down the hallway and explore its great
glossy latch
I spent like a whole day IRL exploring trash cans... I didn't know about MC bein...
Svarog is pretty cool
I like his coat
Also its funny that Clara as a unit is functionally just Svarog
glossy latch
And the brains
ebon quartz
Oh so little detail I noticed?
Every character has a unique phone case.
summer hornet
Wait, really?
ebon quartz
Mmhmm
glossy latch
Hook also has a miniature phone
Probably the funniest case is the one Dan Heng has though
Its completely plain
Just the default one
summer hornet
Lmfao, sounds right for him
glossy latch
Ah fuck, the Clara companion quest is bugged for me
summer hornet
Oh honey...
ebon quartz
This game lol
ebon quartz
Clara - "Daddy Svargo, that monster hit me!"
slow raft
slow raft
Im hitting soft pity in 7 rolls, so im hoping for either clara, bronya or welt in my next 10roll
ebon quartz
I might replace fox girl with Bronya if/when I get her so I'll have a team of Trailblazer, Seele, Nat, and Bronya.
or replace Nat and go full glass cannon.
mystic python
mine are level 60 ;-;
o ye forgot to ask but how'd you get to level 40, from using fuel?
dull bridge
100% all areas and grinded artis
so yeah
used fuel
since i got bp it gave me like 15 fuel or smt
was@crazy
mystic python
Ah ok makes sense, cos I'm missing like 4 chests total and then a handful of side events and at like 36
long tree
glossy latch
... huh, there is another "gay in all but name" couple in the game
Thats more than I expected from a chinese game
summer hornet
Also that reminds me
need to ask Jot or anyone else who knows Honkai Impact 3rd
The first time I looked up Star Rail on twitter I saw a whole bunch of posts about a fancanon/dubiously canon queer ship whose characters were sort of reincarnated into Star Rail?
Couldn't make sense of it all at the time and I was worried about spoilers so I didn't look too far, and most of the details have left my mind by now, but apparently Welt was a father figure to them?
long tree
Couldn't make sense of it all at the time and I was worried about spoilers so I ...
Okay so: honkai star rail takes place in an alternative universe, welt has crossed over to the star rail universe from third impact, the rest to my knowledge are just alternative universe versions. Bronya and seele have a relationship that spans further than universes, digging into the unconsciousness of all life.
long tree
What part?
glossy latch
Bronyas and Seeles relationship spanning further than the universes
long tree
It's more so something I inferred due to the fact that they have explored the manifestations of universal laws together, including the collective subconsciousness
glossy latch
Wild
No wonder Welt didnt want to go down to the planet of Star Rail Bronya and Seele
That would be awkward
long tree
I'd imagine just speaking to himiko is a bit awkward for him
glossy latch
I forgot who Himeko was in Star Rail
long tree
Red hair lady in the train
long tree
She's err honkai third impact spoilers for those who care ||fucking dead||
So I'd imagine that makes the situation a bit awkward for welt
glossy latch
But yeah, spoilers for the entire story we have up to now: ||Dan Shu is also very clearly gay, and literally decided to go "fuck Lan, Im gonna worship Yaoshi and overthrow the Xianzhou alliance" because Lan ended up killing her "friend"||
summer hornet
Okay so: honkai star rail takes place in an alternative universe, welt has cross...
oh wow, dang, okay
kudos to the gays
long tree
The same holds true for Kiara and mei
Literally the entirety of honkai third impact is those two being so lesbian for one another they ascend to godhood
glossy latch
Oh yeah, we have neither of them in star rail
God trying to read up on Honkai lore is confusing
Why is it so unneccessarily complicated
copper steppe
reading a bit of lb7 and its hillarious the fact ||ort makes a entire summoning system and summon itself as grand foreigner, defying the laws of magecraft just to beat you into a fucking pulp||
long tree
Why is it so unneccessarily complicated
Welcome to mihoyo
glossy latch
Even BB isnt this unneccessarily complicated
long tree
Mihoyo be like: What layer of human perception or universal law would you like to explore today? Just kidding you don't get to pick and we're not going to explain it to you, but look, hot people
copper steppe
at least it isn’t the type moon wiki 
idle grove
holy
slow raft
dull bridge
https://youtu.be/usWCbmUdrl8
yeah
the place to buen
nuke
seems to be doomsday beast
when it's vulnerable
you get off so much damage
it's not funny
like i hit 300k with my shitty ass yNqing witu no supports
slow raft
old galleon
yep
long tree
Bronya is great cause she just goes "oh you thought seele was done? Round 2 baybeeee"
glossy latch
Isnt that more Tingyun?
slow raft
Bronya instantly grants a second turn
I wouldnt know who is better in facilitating 5 turn shenanigans, as i have neither of them
long tree
Tingyun is budget bronya most of the time iirc
summer hornet
https://twitter.com/ToyyoT_C/status/1653929223692898305?s=20
Wait a minute....
idle grove
5* privileges smh
old galleon
seems okay, nothing gamebreaking in a vacuum
slow raft
Its just a bit funny
honest pawn
downloading star rail
long tree
Me waiting for reset to get gems to pull with
copper steppe
im wondering if star rail is gonna run fine on console or pc
ebon quartz
Yeah I really need Seeles wife for my team >.>
honest pawn
hmm
I'm split
A. I don't know how I feel about Kafka being the name of a new waifu anime gacha chase
but on the other, I love her design
old galleon
im wondering if star rail is gonna run fine on console or pc
it runs fine on my laptop and mine isn't a gaming laptop by any means
i do play on lower settings, so if you care about that, then you may need a more powerful pc
slow raft
Runs fine on my pc with some exceptions from time to time
summer hornet
I've been playing on an iPad
same for Arknights, Bleach Brave Souls, and MHA Ultra Impact
glossy latch
It runs well on a pc
Also I now officially have nothing to do in the game anymore
Even solved every puzzle in the last world
summer hornet
dang
copper steppe
is it that short or are you just playing too much
glossy latch
Dont ask questions youre not prepared to hear the answers to
slow raft
I did the same as ovven except i need to wait for a daily redet to get the next few batches
3 of them are day locked
glossy latch
(I played a bit too much, but even if staggered I think its two weeks worth of content tops)
long tree
is it that short or are you just playing too much
Both tbh
long tree
Go into your screen time settings
summer hornet
yeah, gacha games usually track the amount of days logged in and not the total time
if you go into PC/phone settings and see your hours though
glossy latch
I ... think you maybe cant on PC
summer hornet
poor Arlan...
long tree
He's just so shit
ebon quartz
She is so fucking gay
glossy latch
Why Serval in B actually
long tree
Because march does doodoo damage and sampo just didn't impress me
A is for characters that impressed me
If you want to you could probably bump some of these Bs to As
long tree
march's role isn't to do tons of damage
Her shield is mid
ebon quartz
Yeah I pulled Serval and stopped using her pretty fast.
old galleon
if you don't need that utility, you don't use her
long tree
No I mean I don't know why anyone would want her shield
It's bad
Aoe attacks are way too common later on for this
glossy latch
Uh
Really good with Clara
The shield gives aggro
Its also good to save low-hp units even against AoEs
old galleon
shields still mitigate damage even without all the other bells and whistles
glossy latch
Serval is also probably the best 4* AoE unit we have right now tbh
And Lightning is pretty important as an element
long tree
Im just not impressed by either of em, if that's what y'all think though that's cool
As an aside people underrate the hell out of welt
old galleon
aside from everything else, i'll just repeat my usual 'tier lists aren't very useful' refrain
i would agree that welt is very good
ebon quartz
Aizen looking ass
long tree
She is so fucking gay
Better invite me to the wedding fr
old galleon
story is easy enough i haven't really needed him yet, but he'll be more useful to me when i start doing harder shit
glossy latch
Honestly Im surprised at how many "gay in all but name" characters the game has
long tree
~~Honestly Im surprised at how many "gay in all but name" characters the game ha...
This is mihoyos thing
glossy latch
Theres a random one in world 3, and one that I cannot elaborate on
long tree
It's awesome
summer hornet
unrelated but still gacha related so I'm gonna post it here since you brought up Aizen, Licia-
glossy latch
||Seriously I was surprised reading Dan Shus diary||
summer hornet
What do you think of this Aizen design?
long tree
Isekai villain looking ass
long tree
He only works out on his lefty
ebon quartz
Yeah that's what really threw me at first.
glossy latch
Like it looks more detached than it probably was supposed to be
summer hornet
It's from Bleach Brave Souls, a hypothetical Aizen who got to use the full power of the Hogyoku without getting caught by Ichigo + Urahara
summer hornet
I dont like his right arm
...also I never realized that his arms were disconnected from his torso until you said so just now
long tree
I'm surprised no one was upset I put majong boy in B
idle grove
woo. another hook dupe. thank you gacha.
old galleon
qingque seems a bit too rng for my liking at a glance
but decent if yo udon't have seele
idle grove
I am so glad my 10 rolls are going towards this
long tree
Yeah that's my issue with him for me
glossy latch
Qingque is a guy?
long tree
Ye
idle grove
but decent if yo udon't have seele
yeah they're great
long tree
Not qingque fuckin errr
ebon quartz
Oh I have Seele with almost 40% crit on single target kills now.
long tree
Yanquin is who I meant yeah
Got them mixed up somehow
Yanquin is also too rng for me
old galleon
i don't have yanqing so i can't really testify to him
glossy latch
... wait yeah Jot, do you have all these units?
long tree
... wait yeah Jot, do you have all these units?
Most, its mainly me just looking at the percentages and comparing them to the units I do have for the ones I don't
glossy latch
long tree
I don't think yanquin is bad but you're gonna have an awful time if the enemy either a. Aoes a ton, or b. Just decides to target him
Cause he'll lose his soulsteel sync
old galleon
for b, you know how you mitigate that? taunts, aggro, shields : ^)
ebon quartz
This fucking game
idle grove
this is the team I use for generally everything now
glossy latch
You didnt get a 5* yet?
old galleon
*This fucking game*
aspire to be the kind of leader whose subordinates will save you from embarrassment : ^)
idle grove
I have Welt
glossy latch
Ah
I guess youre not using him since Imaginary damage doesnt come up much in world 2
long tree
for b, you know how you mitigate that? taunts, aggro, shields : ^)
Oh does he not lose the soulsteel sync if you shield him?
I assumed taking damage included shields
If not then he goes in A
old galleon
tbf march's shield specifically would increase his chances of getting attacked, but no, as far as i know, shield damage doesn't constitute actual damage
it was relevant for an earlier interaction i'm not immediately remembering
long tree
Himekos damage is just kinda unfortunate, her numbers are a bit too low and using her during bosses actual hurts
dull bridge
Crit privileges, huh
this is why i like yanqing
he basically just auto rits with ult
so i can build jusr damage
slow raft
Yanquing haver here, he is certainly shit if you need aoe
dull bridge
mainly wirj the trailblazers
why is fire donlow
so low
fire can be your only def support
slow raft
Also, skill into ult means you dont have to chance it on the whole not getting hit part
dull bridge
and your whole team won't die
long tree
Fire is in A, bat is in B
dull bridge
Also, skill into ult means you dont have to chance it on the whole not getting h...
yeah
he's really bonkers imo
long tree
Couldn't tell the portraits apart
dull bridge
i mena the bat totally is in the a pic
which is what confused me
also fire trailblazer is easy s for me
only better def support
is heaped
long tree
I couldn't tell what that was
glossy latch
Anyway my team rn is Seele, Serval, March and Clara
Serval is just the best AoE unit I have access to rn
slow raft
My team is f trailvlazer, the 5 star healer, seele and herta/yanquing, depending on the content
long tree
My team rn, probably gonna kick himeko off it
idle grove
glossy latch
Im making a second team though focused on DoTs
Definitely Welt, probably fire Trailblazer, definitely Sampo, not sure on the fourth
long tree
idle grove
angry
long tree
This is my box rn
slow raft
>3 5*
Wdym how, i did over 250 rolls + the guaranteed 5 star from the 50 rolls you do on the beginner banner
zealous kite
Man I gotta play star Rail again
zealous kite
Getting rolls tho really made me not wanna do it
idle grove
dull bridge
like
glossy latch
Apparently Serval is used a lot in DoT teams
dull bridge
UGH
idle grove
me when I see y'alls boxes
glossy latch
I might have to reconsider then
zealous kite
And I've only got the one 5*, Yanqing
glossy latch
Wdym how, i did over 250 rolls + the guaranteed 5 star from the 50 rolls you do...
250 rolls?
dull bridge
he's great
slow raft
Yeah
ebon quartz
This is all I have ._.
glossy latch
Did you cash in all your stellar jade already?
dull bridge
all you lucky fucks with tingyun
long tree
Did you cash in all your stellar jade already?
I did cause Jings 3d model actually hurts to look at
slow raft
Did you cash in all your stellar jade already?
I did transform them into 20 pulls i have leftover for the next limited banner
long tree
This is all I have ._.
That's actually real good especially since you just started
glossy latch
Ah I see
old galleon
all you lucky fucks with tingyun
fellow tingyun not-haver
dull bridge
i am so tempted to spend
slow raft
fellow tingyun not-haver
Same boat here
dull bridge
so i can get tingyun and tjan get my 300 standard pulls
glossy latch
Because Kafka eventually is good in DoT teams too
dull bridge
and grab bro ya
slow raft
I do have a 5 eidolon herta tho, which is just as good, right?
long tree
Im likely saving them for Kafka
Yeah if you want dot teams then Kafka is the goal
glossy latch
At that point I might cut Welt for Kafka
dull bridge
honestly
old galleon
how many of those eidolons di dyou pull
dull bridge
she fucks
glossy latch
Welt is weird in that he doesnt have a damaging DoT himself
slow raft
Uh
dull bridge
she does insane damage
slow raft
3
old galleon
so you're still missing the world 6 eidolon?
old galleon
i'm 34 and still haven't cleared world 3 lol
glossy latch
Like Welt is incredible since slowing the enemy down is crazy good, but if I go for Sampo Kafka, I might want to go full DoT
old galleon
maybe i'm just bad at roguelikes
slow raft
Yeah cool
glossy latch
So Serval and ... uh
slow raft
Yes
dull bridge
i didn't know if it was cause she's broken
old galleon
sim universe can stack on a ton of elation buffs
dull bridge
or if like it was just easier
slow raft
Especially for rougelike
dull bridge
ah k
old galleon
to boost her follow-ups
slow raft
And if you go solo that means that each enemy attack is a followup
slow raft
I hope to god i dont need to go to 300 pulls in the standard banner before i get clara
dull bridge
same but with bronta
glossy latch
Who does DoT besides Serval and Sampo
dull bridge
hook serval sampo welt/kafka
glossy latch
So
glossy latch
Hook, Serval, Sampo, Kafka maybe
Or switch out Hook for the fire trailblazer with trend of the universal market
So that I have a defensive support
Something like that
But first
I need to finally get Sampo already goddammit
glossy latch
Is that confirmed?
glossy latch
I made it up
slow raft
Source: it came to me in a dream
Speaking of dreams, i am become sleepy goer to bed
Gn
old galleon
good night, fellow tingyun not-haver
ebon quartz
Starting to hit around 3k pretty consistently now 🦋
dull bridge
👏
ebon quartz
Still pretty low level and without good gear.
Oh my GOD GAME STOP GIVING ME NATASHA
I fucking have her at e3 already
dull bridge
her e6 is insane
she becomes not just a tank / healing monster she also puts out very decent damage
dull bridge
WOW
LUCKY
I WISH I COULD PULL 5 STARS THAT WERE USEFUL TOMME
DEFINITLY NOT BEING PASSIVE AGRESSIVE TO TJE VAME
ebon quartz
Jesus yeah my Seele is a boss killer now ._.
55% chance to crit on bosses with 80% or less hp
glossy latch
Is your Seele at E1 now?
ebon quartz
Yeah
glossy latch
Also the reason youre getting so much Natasha is because her rate is up in the banner
Her, Hook and Pela
Which is mostly why i stopped pulling
ebon quartz
The Natasha I just pulled was from the regular banner.
glossy latch
dull bridge
wait lmao i finished it??
glossy latch
Also @long tree since you played their games before, how long do you figure til we get a story update?
dull bridge
a while
hoyo normal is pretty dry wirj content
form mt@eoxensive
from my experience
i'm guessing like 1.3 at least
unless they just wanna go all out
dull bridge
what is it
glossy latch
Ultimate does all DoT damage instead of just shock
So she can AoE trigger every DoT
Whereas her skill only does it on one enemy
ebon quartz
omg the guards yell at you for breaking barrels
old galleon
that happens once afaik
ebon quartz
Yeah you get 5 gems for it
old galleon
you also get to beat his ass
ebon quartz
I apologized :<
old galleon
how dare he try to get in the way of jrpg protagonists breaking barrels
ebon quartz
Also pretty sure I have every treasure chest so far.
long tree
Also <@657540110950334465> since you played their games before, how long do you ...
We'll likely get some events in 1.1 to keep us a little busy, but yeah I wouldn't expect new content story wise for a couple months
long tree
Damn this was a really REALLY good pull
E1 SEELE GANG
glossy latch
We'll likely get some events in 1.1 to keep us a little busy, but yeah I wouldn'...
😔
Well at least I can just play MMBN instead
Makes me wonder though
Do they have any plans for how to actually finish the story?
HI3 seems to have something since we already have a canonical end and a glimpse at what happens afterwards (even if were missing like, all the details)
long tree
Genshin was planned 7 years in advance
I'd imagine they're at least prepared for the next 3 planets and have a solid idea of what theyre gonna do for the ending
glossy latch
But will we ever get the ending
long tree
Depends on how successful the game is
Honkai 3rd got an ending after 7ish years
So I'd imagine it'll be around that
ebon quartz
Yeah games like this are usually planned YEARS in advance.
long tree
That's what they say but I don't imagine it lasting too long, Kiara and mei have sort of solved everything they needed to and have just transended their own reality. If the story does carry on, it'll likely just be with different characters.
glossy latch
What happened in the ending anyway?
||Did the Honkai get sealed on the moon like Post-Honkai odyssey stated?||
long tree
Yeah
copper steppe
grandblue, azurlane, fgo have around 6 to 8 years and are still going
i reckon the oldest gacha still going is puzzle & dragons
copper steppe
ending a gacha is hard
if the main story ends then what happens
dragalia (bless its soul) ended its story on its deathbed
long tree
Okay so I was going to explain the ending here
But I straight up have lost track of honkai lore
copper steppe
is it that hard to explain
long tree
It is ludicrously hard to explain
copper steppe
or is it just all over the place like some hack just wrote whatever he thought it was cool
long tree
Oh no I'm certain this all makes sense once you take it all in
but it is just so much
There's so much context you need to figure out how the fuck you got from the beginning to the end
copper steppe
im gonna check the wiki
long tree
Good luck they haven't updated it with the ending
copper steppe
makes sense
digital marlin
nani
copper steppe
did dinos have stand powers or something
long tree
Nah that's when the first honkai appeared on earth
copper steppe
when you say honkai like that it looks like something that came out of god eater
long tree
when you say honkai like that it looks like something that came out of god eater
You watched Eva?
Cause they're basically the angels from eva
copper steppe
so honkais are just some ramdom assholes from outer space that want to kill people
long tree
They're more like a force or god creating beasts to destroy humanity
Why? I don't know I forgor
copper steppe
you’re right that does sound hard to explain
summer hornet
I mean Star Rail literally starts with a super hacker and quantum gunslinger taking advantage of an alien invasion to awaken an energy bomb as a human, no?
long tree
Yep
Not just taking advantage btw, they caused them to attack the ship
Kafka complains that they didn't bring enough at one point until silver wolf corrects her iirc
summer hornet
Oh I missed that
I'd just assumed their "tactical forecaster" told them when the invasion would happen, not that they caused it
But yeah, given how Star Rail starts I'd assume any work in a connected series would be at least as convoluted
long tree
I like how silver wolf can just casually hack reality
copper steppe
i’ll just do the most suitable tactic for this situation
“don’t worry about it”
it is what it is
glossy latch
Oh huh, Welt is just generally good, not just in a DoT team
long tree
He's real good
glossy latch
Unfortunately I dont know who I'd take out for him in my main comp
long tree
I like that his skill adjusts in single target stuff
dull bridge
yeah...
glossy latch
Especially with the 5 you can buy being monthly
dull bridge
ive put honestly
all my pulls
into standard
i NEED tingyun
and bronya
like
bronya and tingyun
should make my yanqing
hit 1m
SHOULD
if i do everything correct on doomsday beast
summer hornet
Same, like I'm stocking up on limited tickets for whenever a unit I immensely vibe with appears, but for now I'm focusing on standard banner
glossy latch
You just end up not getting a lot of them after a while
ebon quartz
YO I GET TO UPGRADE FROM BASEBALL BAT???
glossy latch
How did you not see any of the dozen times we talked about the other MC version
summer hornet
I heard about it from like, day 2
ebon quartz
Like I saw something about the stats/element but not the actual visual idea
glossy latch
Also huh
I looked up Silver Wolf, since we seem to roughly knew her kit and
... she seems kinda busted?
ebon quartz
More than Seele?
glossy latch
Hard to say since I dont have the numbers but
Her skill gives the enemy an additional weakness from one of your teams characters
And her technique (The skill you use to initiate battle) seems to let you ignore weaknesses alltogether?
summer hornet
oh
that's... very big, yeah
not gamebreaking in the same way as Seele, with absurd damage loops, but she'll basically let you maintain a single team with any DPS you want till the end of the game
old galleon
got my last set of travel log goodies, rolled another natasha eidolon with them
so she's e2 now
ebon quartz
Oh I have to unlock all the trance stuff again ._.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
old galleon
ye
on the upside, you will probably not use physical trailblazer too much now that you have fire trailblazer, so you can focus more on that
mystic python
not gamebreaking in the same way as Seele, with absurd damage loops, but she'll ...
Tbh knowing Mihoyo, having Seele won't really matter eventually; DPSs are always replaceable and can be powercrept, but good support abilities will always stay relevant
summer hornet
Is powercreep particularly rampant in Mihoyo's other games?
mystic python
Heard in HI3 it's been happening, in Genshin tho there's an issue of the early supports being so good that most later support releases are kinda disappointing. In terms of DPSs they just become more specialized, so stronger if supported well and within their niche, weaker outside of those conditions
mystic python
tl;dr there'll always be another DPS, but there won't always be another character that replicates e.g. what Silver Wolf does
old galleon
seele will be fine
mystic python
Ye not saying she'll be made bad, just saying she'll likely be very replaceable in the future
summer hornet
Oh I have to unlock all the trance stuff again ._.
Also thanks for letting me know not to go too deep in on physical Trailblazer XD
….wait, do you have to redo Eidolons for them too?
mystic python
Ya the different MCs have different Eidolons
Bunch of Fire MC's ones are in the Xianzhou shop or w/e it was called
ebon quartz
BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG NUMBIES
summer hornet
old galleon
congrats on your e2 natasha
slow raft
Yeah, grip sinclair has damage in the bunny heathcliff levels
Atleast thats what i heard, since instead of getring him i got 2 egos
(Not that i can complain, ive only gotten one ego before)
slow raft
summer hornet
This is a funny screenshot
slow raft
summer hornet
Dang, people are FAST
ebon quartz
Also between fireblazer and nat I started a fight with single digit hp on everyone and was topped off by the time the fight was over.
Also at this rate I'm going to get Nat to e6 and just have a ff sage.
slow raft
Was it just a normal manaburst before? Cause if so, thats big
idle grove
it was just normal mana burst yeah
long tree
LETS GO
idle grove
slow raft
honest pawn
https://twitter.com/exceddius/status/1654420244851507201?s=20
HOLY POGGERS NEW BUFFS!
IN FGO!
wait
doesn't this make her super good at looping now
higher damage than artoria no?
idle grove
not sure about these stats
honest pawn
200% buster and 40% attack up with double koyanskaya
are there any other buffs/buffs planned?
or is this all we're getting
idle grove
Mordred S1: Mana Burst A > Red Thunder Knight A+
Now Increases Buster card effectiveness (3 times, 3 turns instead of 1 turn), and Increases Buster card critical strength [20%-30%] (3T) and Increases ATK for self [10%-20%] (3T)
Lalter S3: Charisma E > Wild Hunt A
Party ATK buff increased [10%-20%] (3T) and now applies Special Damage to Lawful enemies [20%-30%] (3T) and Special Damage to Good enemies [20%-30%] (3T)
Nero S2: Imperial Privilege EX > Imperial Privilege (Applause) EX
Now Increases Arts card effectiveness [20%-30%] (3T) and Gain 10 stars per turn (chance based ATK/Def buff still unchanged, Heal unchanged)
honest pawn
Mordred S1: Mana Burst A > Red Thunder Knight A+
Now Increases Buster card effe...
and these are all?
Lalter's is super underwhelming
idle grove
all I can see yeah
idle grove
nero buff is insane because it actually makes that skill useful
honest pawn
if they added 2 more hits to Nero's NP she would skyrocket to the top of playable
I know it sounds unrealistic but come on man
so many Year 1 units held back by bad hitcounts
digital marlin
nero buff is insane because it actually makes that skill useful
It was always useful for at least the hp recover
idle grove
long tree
THERES A FUCKING MANDELA CATALOGUE REFERENCE???
(a guy gets replaced with a replica with an uncanny smile)
glossy latch
... he would be the kinda guy to do that
astral drift
Lalter's is super underwhelming
Special damage is hot
glossy latch
Did another 10 roll of the basic banner spending a bit of jades here and ... another Natasha
Still no Sampo
Bastard >:[
ebon quartz
Okay I'm already tired off hearing "butterflies" lol
summer hornet
Welcome to the world of Seele lol
ebon quartz
I got her ult 5 times in a single turn
summer hornet
glossy latch
I am kinda tempted to just roll the standard banner
mystic python
DISAPPEAR AMONG THE SEA OF BUTTERFLIES
glossy latch
But I have to save up for Kafka
ebon quartz
I was doing simulated universe and got a blessing that 100% reset her energy when she killed something.
mystic python
That's the fun part
slow raft
im gonna be honest, i always feel like theres something missing from seeles ult voiceline
it just seems like she wants to say an attack name right after "illusions of the past"
ebon quartz
She probably does.
It just gets old fast lol.
Also to the point where I can farm for gear for her.
glossy latch
Oddly enough Seeles voiceline is the only one where I dont think there is a difference between normal speed and fast speed
ebon quartz
Going for that 10-20% armor pen.
glossy latch
Servals for example cuts a bit off at the end for the fast speed line
ebon quartz
I might just mute the game when I'm in farm mode.
Music is super quiet in battles even cranked all the way up anyway.
idle grove
I think my gear and cones must be omega shit if I'm seeing some of these damages and I don't even do like a third
long tree
Keep in mind these people have spent gems to max their account level so they can level their units
idle grove
help
ebon quartz
Yeah whales are doing insane stuff lol
idle grove
idk I just think my general damage is kind of mid too
highest I've gotten so far is Sushang doing 1k
ebon quartz
What level are you?
idle grove
28
slow raft
losing more and more praise of high morals cause im doing stupid shit
also i found someone who was once an rpg protag
stopped me from opening a chest
like half this chat
@long tree even has her e2
long tree
slow raft
next 3 banners are Luocha, Silver Wolf and yukong i thought
ebon quartz
28
Could be gear and/or units.
I've hit 4k on Seele but that's both Seele and with a bunch of attack boosts I always give her.
glossy latch
next 3 banners are Luocha, Silver Wolf and yukong i thought
Jing, Luocha and Silver Wolf, but yes
Kafka is probably after Silver Wolf, though it might be Blade
So a few months away, realistically
long tree
Order is apparently Jing, silver wolf luocha with yukong being a 4 star
glossy latch
In terms of 5* I want Kafka
And Silver Wolf is probably really good but eh
There is also a 4* I want eventually
ebon quartz
Only unit I really want now is Bronya.
But I'm going to keep trying to get another level of Seele.
slow raft
my problem is that the only two characters i want are the upcoming two
glossy latch
Honestly Im happy to keep E0 Seele
glossy latch
I think in terms of power, the "right" picks are Jing and Silver Wolf
But idk if I want Silver Wolf
slow raft
its a gacha, the right pick is always to follow your heart
except when there is a castoria level character, but i think were not quite there yet
glossy latch
Realistically there are 2 characters I want
Kafka for DoT teams
And an as of yet unannounced 4* that got leaked, purely for their appearance
glossy latch
Well yeah, they were only leaked
Spoilers for unannounced content (though its already hinted at in the game somwhere) ||Its Screwllum, the robot dude||
idle grove
Could be gear and/or units.
I've hit 4k on Seele but that's both Seele and with...
welp I would hope it's not units because I can't just roll better ones into existence lmao
I'll assume it's gear and just grind for it
glossy latch
Also some of it may be the enemy you fight
The first boss you fought, when downed in phase 1, takes massively increased damage
ebon quartz
welp I would hope it's not units because I can't just roll better ones into exis...
Yeah it's probably gear.
I really only have Nat and Seele geared.
idle grove
just generic enemies that have element weakness is where I get my numbers from
otherwise I probably wouldn't have gotten the 1k damage
ebon quartz
My priority has been pumping Seeles dps > increasing Nats outgoing healing so she can take more pot shots > getting more hp on fox > gearing MC (who I have to regear now)
My damage outside of Seele is absolutely pitiful lol
idle grove
I don't really have a solid dps I'd be happy just pumping stats into right now
glossy latch
I am so tempted to roll 10 on the standard banner again
But you dont get that much jade do you
slow raft
well we wont know how generous events will be
but weekly you get around 5ish pulls
and thats the only replenishable jade
glossy latch
Is that just Simulated Universe and Dailies, or are you including the puzzles you seem to be able to do daily too?
slow raft
the puzzles stop after a while, so no
glossy latch
Do they?
slow raft
i cant do starskiff or the one in the mines anymore
and there was another im forgetting i think
glossy latch
Dang
slow raft
oh yeah, the puzzle on hertas station
glossy latch
I dont remember there being a repeatable one
slow raft
in the area in the middle here there was one
ebon quartz
Yeah I'm done with both of those.
slow raft
im also pretty sure ive exhauseted the divination commission today
ebon quartz
So seems to be a 10 pull about every 2 weeks?
slow raft
seems like it
ebon quartz
Hmm
slow raft
thats also what id call average for gachas
ebon quartz
If I did the math right that $5 pass is also worth around 15 10 pulls.
But you have to log in everyday.
slow raft
the pass is 2700 stellar jade, which is about 16 and a bit pulls
ebon quartz
Ooooh yeah I missed a step somewhere then lol.
ebon quartz
I'm going to stay f2p, probably won't log in as much when I'm done with the story.
idle grove
god I love trailblazer
ebon quartz
LOL
idle grove
oh my god yes
slow raft
i still need to find those damn 3 last cranes
ebon quartz
My Seeles stats.
Her crit rate goes up another 12% when there are 2 or less enemies out.
slow raft
I ... didnt know that existed
you need to find sloth first and then report to the boss of heron
i accidentally send a passive nihilist response to chengjie
even tho i only wanted him not to push himself
oh i also finally found out where that scammer ran of to...
after i got tricked by a cult
oops
i think i found lust
glossy latch
Fuck it, spent some jades on the regular banner
Kafka is months away anyway
Aaaand it was a Lightcone
Not pog
slow raft
slowly ovven goes through the phases of gacha
glossy latch
I just want Sampo man
slow raft
i had that exact series of messages like 5 times already
glossy latch
Is that too much to ask
slow raft
ye
glossy latch
Damn
slow raft
well ig technically if youre not sensible about it, you could get it quite soon
glossy latch
If Kafka wasnt already confirmed and known to be good for DoT, I would just cash it out lmao
God levelling is slow now
slow raft
yeah, you get only round 2k exp per day
ebon quartz
Hmm man I really wish I could get e1 fireblazer already.
I have almost 800 Def on her, would be nice to have more damage 😭
glossy latch
Are you done with world 2?
glossy latch
World 3 gives you Eidolons in the world shop, so you can try doing that if you want E1
hollow kayak
Lol
glossy latch
God its actually frustrating how you cant do anything once the story is done >.>
Getting XP is just so slow
idle grove
oh might this be the tavern Sampo mentioned?
glossy latch
That is one of the theories Im working with, yes
idle grove
Kind of makes sense with it being related to Aha
glossy latch
Mmh
The only weird part is that Sampo does technically already have a path, but Elation isnt one you can have in gameplay
However, I do have another theory about him I like more rn
idle grove
which is?
glossy latch
||He's a Stellaron hunter||
||If you go into I think the faction section of the database, you get a blurb about the Stellaron Hunters mentioning their members||
||Most you already know, Elio, Silver Wolf, Kafka, Blade. ... the last one however is just someone called "Sam"||
||And Sampo clearly knows more than he lets on, is definitely not just some Jhairo-IV local and given that last bit we see where he talks to the "camera" as it were, he probably is working with someone||
slow raft
finally, after all these days(2), i have them all
long tree
The hide and seek one was a bit mean
copper steppe
downloading star rail on pc rn
glossy latch
Well at least you got a really good 5* out of it
Clara is really good for clearing out groups and her potential DPS is pretty high
Also Svarog is really cool
idle grove
I wish I could have svarog instead of clara tbh
glossy latch
I assume you mean Seele
idle grove
no I mean like
glossy latch
Because Clara functionally is Svarog
idle grove
I wish clara wasn't part of the package and it was just svarog
glossy latch
Ah
Fair
Though I admit Im a sucker for "small child protected by big scary robot" as an aesthetic
But having a Svarog model for the overworld would be nice
idle grove
but yeah I also just would have preferred rolling seele
glossy latch
I think you might be able to hit pity twice, and Seele is guaranteed on the next one
Its just over two weeks left now, so you should be able to get enough to roll if you really want Seele
glossy latch
Later yes iirc
slow raft
Ye
old galleon
cavern of corrosion and simulated universe, but only focus the ones that let you guarantee 5* relics
glossy latch
I think you can grind corrosion something for relics early on, but theyre not worth going for yet strictly speaking
idle grove
hmm okay
glossy latch
Also Simulated Universe later gives you another type of relic you need
idle grove
just wondering because my gear seems pretty mid rn
old galleon
you get enough 4* relics from playing the game to act as filler until you can do 5* relics
the wild wheat set is universally great
slow raft
I think you can get 5* gear once you reaxh equilibrium level 3
dull bridge
I think you can get 5* gear once you reaxh equilibrium level 3
yup
thats whjat im doing
grinding relics
b ut ig
my luyck from genshin carried over
i havent gotten a SINGLE even like mid relic
and i have spend
around 2k resin
-_-
fuck this game dude
omg
this poped up
for i just forgot how much
i loved this
when i played this part of the story
ebon quartz
Okay.... I used Mr Svarog Clara.
This is intimidating as hell
old galleon
nobody fucks with mr svarog
ebon quartz
Mr Svarog did almost 4k with a single hit ._.