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fading stratus
magic thunder
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@golden lance bro how did they code it so shit

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Haze heals you

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I guess damage is an HP stat change now

obsidian juniper
golden lance
sharp kernel
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I played this game too much, to the point that I think I burned myself out

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My battle pass is already maxed out

sharp kernel
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And if I see one more weather mon, I’m going to freaking scream

warm sky
latent sleet
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can’t believe they dropped a pokemon unite 2

golden lance
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They dropped ptcg live 3 icant

golden lance
golden lance
mighty storm
pseudo goblet
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sun is really the best archetype isnt it

kind vortex
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play more singles
still see venusaur/zard y

sharp kernel
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That’s really my main complaint with the game

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The mon pool is way too small

fading stratus
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its not small

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idk how 185 or something fuly evolved mons would be a small pool

kind vortex
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i haven't actually seen zard y/venusaur yet, i'm playing a bit slowly and am in low ladder

but i know zard y is by far the most common of the two zards even in singles

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at least so far

sharp kernel
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It’s small when you consider 80% of those 185 mons are unusable

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There’s a reason why the ladder is just the same 30 mons

fading stratus
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SV Reg A itself had about 190 mons

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fully evolved

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plus murkrow scyther

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and that shit had worse dex than rn

outer eagle
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New mons do be new mons

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New toy syndrome can mask how imperfect something actually is

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Champions wise the only new toys we’re actually getting are the megas, which half of them aren’t legal yet and 80% of the legal new ones are ass clearly

fading stratus
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185 isnt even small regional dex

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idk why we're saying its bad

hasty anchor
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I mean, the whole thing about mons that have yet to completely evolve isn't true, there is!

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...It's Pikachu

outer eagle
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We don’t know a lot of things but they exist nonetheless smh

hasty anchor
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...Wait, does the Light Ball factor in Max Move power?

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I can't remember if it does or not

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Not that it matters now in Champions, but it may be good to know if Dynamax is added later

outer eagle
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NFE wise it’s not really a big loss since it’s just Clefairy, P2, Dusclops, Buzz and Magmar iirc frogethink

hasty anchor
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Duraludon?

outer eagle
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Casuals usually don’t care about middle stages at least

hasty anchor
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Always wondered if Duraludon makes good use of it, cause it sounds incredible, but nobody brings it up

outer eagle
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Did VGC use Duraludon post-Archa?

fading stratus
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duralodon is awful

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It won a regionals in SwSh but the one who won the regs was also unsure on how it won

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awful is probably a stretch ig

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but like its not great

hasty anchor
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115 DEF is a bit lower than what I remember.

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Which I guess is the catch; it's sp. def is nowhere near as high

fading stratus
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its more like

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120 SpA is just not good

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arch is good because it can boost with electro shot

hasty anchor
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120 Sp. ATK is not good
???

fading stratus
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yeah

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120 isnt good

hasty anchor
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That

Seems like a major stretch, cause that's still plenty hurt coming one's way.

fading stratus
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its not a stretch at all

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120 SpA without a damage boosting item doesnt do that much damage

outer eagle
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If this was pre-Fairy where Dragon was still vroken 120 SpA would have been great since you could drop Dracos left and right

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But it isn't

fading stratus
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its funny that physical dragons just dont run dragon type moves at times

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because its not even that worth

hasty anchor
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It only deals Supereffective damage against other dragon types

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Meaning it's only slightly better than normal type attacks, statistically

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But, normal type moves are very common and varied

outer eagle
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It used to be amazing cuz it only had 1 resist and Meteor had such high base power that even through regular resistance it dealt decent damage

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But Fairy changed that equation

fading stratus
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draco is still a nuke button if you have decent enough SpA/damage boost

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but yeah

outer eagle
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Problem with Normal is that you have many things that resisted it

fading stratus
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we have insanely good normal type pokemon

hasty anchor
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You are one switch out from going from "Haha! Outrage! Who can stop me now!"

To being in optimal "hit me" position once their Azumarill is ready to just press slam your dumb land shark.

fading stratus
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but the one that really use normal type moves is ursaluna?

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offensively atleast

outer eagle
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Blood Moon is one thing cuz you know, Mind's Eye and all

fading stratus
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and guts facade

outer eagle
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Regular Ursa is still good tho cuz Guts Facade ye

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At some point if you pump your power high enough you stop caring for resistances

fading stratus
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thats like 1.5x from stab 1.5x from guts then 2x power due to status

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facade becomes uhh 315 BP move

outer eagle
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Me when i "only" take 100 damage instead of 200

fading stratus
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even resisted its 167 bp move

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which is stronger than giga impact

outer eagle
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Well obviously you need to remove STAB KEKW

fading stratus
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oh yeah

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err

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its stronger than double edge

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oh no

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its 120 idk why i thought 110

outer eagle
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140*1.5/2 = 105
Not taking STAB into account a resisted hit is slightly stronger than unresisted Return

fading stratus
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yeah sounds about right

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pretty broken

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only disadvantage of ursaluna is its pretty one dimensional

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unlike bloodmoon which has seen like 5 different sets

outer eagle
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As it turns out big numbers unga bunga works if you force it hard enough

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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I added sleep powder

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or this

pseudo goblet
# fading stratus or this

Is Weather Ball’s purpose like, in case somebody changed out sun but now the weather ball typing can super effective the enemy

fading stratus
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weather ball is 100% accurate

pseudo goblet
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Or simply Weather Ball>Overheat

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I cant remember Overheat’s accuracy but felt that would be the reason lol

fading stratus
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also yeah weatherball in rain ohkos incin iirc

pseudo goblet
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Heh, Charizard using water attacks

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can Blastoise do grass and fire lol

fading stratus
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yeah you can put weatherball if you want

pseudo goblet
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Watch me spam Heat wave mindlessly icant

fading stratus
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I can imagine

pseudo goblet
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‘Pls I just wanna hit something’ lol

fading stratus
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just try the team

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we can change what you like dislike

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this could be your nats team

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but this time with one month of practice

pseudo goblet
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I can imagine people tired of seeing VenuZard and trained to take care of them lol

fading stratus
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yeah maybe

pseudo goblet
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Btw, Golurk? clearly

fading stratus
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idt golurk is that good honestly

pseudo goblet
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But once we got more mons? clearly

fading stratus
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once we get more mons surely just metagross

pseudo goblet
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What if Gen 5 only reg dubismile

fading stratus
flat fractal
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am I crazy or are the dmg numbers kind of fucked in this game

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I swear shit that shouldn't be OHKOing is killing through multiscale

fading stratus
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like what

flat fractal
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moonblast OHKOed my dragonite with multiscale

fading stratus
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was it fairy aura moonblast icant

flat fractal
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no

fading stratus
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oh which mon

flat fractal
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sylveon

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there were no stat boosts

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it ws just a raw moonblast vs a full hp dragonite with multiscale

pseudo goblet
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Odd, my starter team Gyarados Ice fang only did 1/5 of Mega Dnite health

fading stratus
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huh odd

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it shouldnt ohko it

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might be another bug

flat fractal
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also does anyone have any mega ttar setups

fading stratus
pseudo goblet
flat fractal
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hmm I like that

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I only own the ttar tho lmao

fading stratus
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you can get other mons in home gts in like probably a couple of hours

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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what was dnite's hp

flat fractal
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168, 100%

fading stratus
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yeah home is free

flat fractal
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it';s the free one they give you

fading stratus
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you just need like go to transfer in a couple of mons to start trading

pseudo goblet
flat fractal
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pokemon home is free?

fading stratus
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yeah

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30 slots only

flat fractal
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I dont have to pay anything to transfer from scvi to it and then champions?

fading stratus
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nope

flat fractal
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ohw ow wtf

fading stratus
# pseudo goblet Around 4/5

yeah that azu can kill

32+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 100-118 (60.2 - 71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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it doing around 70 with multiscale is insane

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it does like 50-60 to 252 hp

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idk why dnite died tho

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there's no damage roll where it dies

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32+ SpA Fairy Feather Sylveon Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 79-94 (47.5 - 56.6%) -- 87.5% chance to 2HKO

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its like only this damage

flat fractal
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I just checked twitter

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someone else had the same problem

fading stratus
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probably will get fixed

pseudo goblet
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2027 nukgar

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Oh yeah btw Bolt, almost all caught up on digimon, once its down I should be able to do some pokemon grinds

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Which kind, idk yet lol

flat fractal
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oh they just give you every gen trainer battle ost for free

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nice

vagrant steppe
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Got a shiny in Champions

pseudo goblet
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Can you change form??

midnight spear
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I don’t think within champions

spice rivet
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Anyone up to join my Private room for the mission?

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6083 8437

hexed valley
pseudo goblet
hasty anchor
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And you will never see Incineroar actually use Darkest Lariat

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What a loser

spice rivet
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My current version of the team

fading stratus
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Cool stuff

spice rivet
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Also, I forgot to check but have any of the old Megas got new abilities at all? I'm guessing that Gallade still is stuck with Steadfast sadcat

pseudo goblet
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Sceptile getting a signature ability please nukgar

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For base

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Actually, is Shed Tail in champion

kind vortex
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(it doesn't have sharpness)

young river
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Just fought a choice scarf'd Gliscor... that started with Toxic

pseudo goblet
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okay, even I know thats weird choice

fading stratus
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Might be a newbie

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Who knows

pseudo goblet
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Dont I count as newbie? nyaruhodo

mighty storm
kind vortex
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damn m floette hits like a truck, did over half with light of ruin resisted into my skeledirge

granted i have it physically bulky instead of special but still

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i wish you could save replays, that last battle was fun

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i was testing out m lop, went lop lead with a ninetales and dirge in the back, they brought araquanid lead with rotom wash and floette

game turned into a pivot war having to play around sticky web and eventually whittling down rotom to where i could get skeledirge back in on floette as their last mon

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probably my most fun game in low ladder so far

midnight spear
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makes sense mega floette is the best mega

lyric pollen
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Mega altaria is so mid

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But i cant not use it

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And they put glowbro in lfg

spice rivet
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Mega evolution priority may finally get straightened out pog

pseudo goblet
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Anything about pokemon stuck in limbo

lyric pollen
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Politoed but no poliwrath is so wack

outer eagle
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Poliwack nyaruhodo

icy heath
pseudo goblet
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Thanks tho

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Wait Bun you havent seen my Electro Web gameplay huh KEKW icant KEKW

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I still remember how pissed Bruial was seeing me like that icant

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More or less icant

icy heath
pseudo goblet
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I would show you if I could lol

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Close enough lol

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So basically, Bruial and Bolt had me train for last years vgc, and I keep clicking spread moves for no good reason icant

golden lance
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Ngl i do think champion's dex is a bit small in a sense that you cant do much with it

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Like yea 180 fully evolved mons but you cant play trick room you cant play psyspam and HO barely works

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75% of the megas being unusable or paywalled also sucks

pseudo goblet
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What word can replace ‘ugly’ and start with F

golden lance
maiden flax
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@fading stratus so
How do you feel about meganium now that we get to see a little of what it does

And the fact it is legitimately 150 BP fire weather ball always disregarding the rain entirely

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Expected that

warm sky
maiden flax
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Oh shoot trop kick got buffed

warm sky
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Ye I heard

fading stratus
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Meganium is okay but like

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I haven't seen it do anything amazing

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It matches up poorly into.most stuff too

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I'd love to be wrong tho

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But it hasn't impressed me

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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Also like if you want a fairy mega

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You'd just play EFF

latent sleet
fading stratus
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Yeah

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Sceptile is like top 30 best starter final evolution tho

maiden flax
fading stratus
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Floette

maiden flax
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Ah

fading stratus
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Floette genuinely looks scary

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I've seen it nuke stuff like base incin and mega frosslass with neutral moonblast

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And people are playing shit like calm mind moonblast dazzling gleam

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With sinistcha

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And it just doesn't die

pseudo goblet
golden lance
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Speaking of floette

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Do we wanna talk about the "is champs p2w" discourse going around?

warm sky
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As long as it's civil and there's no bootlicking

sharp kernel
golden lance
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Yea, floette kinda sets a dangerous precedent for restricted formats tho

sharp kernel
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My biggest issue with the game like I said, is the roster. Why couldn’t Kilowattrel be in? Weezing? You put Incineroar but no Rillaboom?

golden lance
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Hey we can run the elemental monkeys 🙂

golden lance
sharp kernel
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Like the Meta is objectively not fun rn. There’s no way I should have gotten burned out from the game in 16 hours of playing it

golden lance
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Like yea its not a problem now in the first reg but once you need to revamp your whole team to account for paradoxes and stuff it gets bad real fast

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You will probably need to delete mons for space eventually and stuff wont feel good

golden lance
sharp kernel
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I enjoy weather, but when you play 50 straight matches in a short period of time and see basically the same 4-5 teams, you get extremely bored

fading stratus
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Imagine floette chi yu

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Or floette flutter mane

outer eagle
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Wao so not much different from CSR Chi-Yu clearly

fading stratus
outer eagle
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Looking forward to Xerneas Chi-Yu

fading stratus
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xern flutter chi yu

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they really put champions on maintainance on day 2

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which is so hilarious

latent sleet
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what are they feeding these bots

fading stratus
sharp kernel
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Someone said that they purposely put this specific roster of pokemon so Charizard would be heavily featured in the first meta lol

fading stratus
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even with mence metagross zard would still be pretty great

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top 8 of a 532 or sth player tournament

spice rivet
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Side note: I recently did a huge purge of Pokemon Home and got rid of most Pokemon that I didn't have my OT. I was that desperate for space lmao. I released ~200 mons. The remaining stuff without my OT is mostly event mons and stuff I got from friends

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Thank goodness for this filter

sharp kernel
golden lance
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@fading stratus Got a shiny sneasler okbuddy

fading stratus
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gj kidge

golden lance
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easiest caly of my life

fading stratus
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vro my shit isnt even getting traded

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not even koraidon

golden lance
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oof

spice rivet
fading stratus
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I need like 3 paradox not named raging bolt and terapagos

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and glastrier

spice rivet
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Which Paradoxes?

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I have plenty of them spare

fading stratus
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gouging crown and rock

golden lance
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Yozz do you have a weasel and a bridge?

spice rivet
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Ah, those ones lol

spice rivet
fading stratus
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I have like every legendary except those

spice rivet
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Ill work on getting a 2nd Gouging Fire for ya, almost done the DLC on my 2nd Scarlet file

fading stratus
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thanke

golden lance
spice rivet
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I also have those too

golden lance
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sure

sharp kernel
golden lance
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well

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i dont really want to use mons i cant transfer out

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@fading stratus it moved

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took 5 mins too

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rn i think i need like

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peli, arch, gambit maybe

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is basc legal in champs?

fading stratus
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yep

golden lance
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ohshit

fading stratus
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This is my box and korai still hasn't moved

golden lance
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Vrazy

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What do you still need btw?

fading stratus
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Just glastrier gouging crown rock and terapagos

golden lance
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I see

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Did you get the galar birds already?

fading stratus
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Ye

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All 3

golden lance
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Cool

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I need those pagos and the horsos

fading stratus
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Ah

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Do you have eternatus

golden lance
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No

sharp kernel
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What’s the last move Meowscarada usually runs?

fading stratus
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Knock protect sucker flower trick

sharp kernel
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Ah sucker punch right

golden lance
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The protean mon that only runs stab

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Hate to see it

fading stratus
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Sash meow usually runs overgrow

sharp kernel
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Yeah I was thinking sash overgrow

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If I wanted to run protean I would do triple axel for the memes

spice rivet
golden lance
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Sick

spice rivet
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Kk theyre in Home now

golden lance
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aight i'm on the friend trade menu

sharp kernel
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Oh I could run trick room also

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Hmmmm

maiden flax
fading stratus
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definitely not trick room

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meow has the advantage of the game just not having good grass types except sinistcha

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in doubles

spice rivet
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Enjoy!

golden lance
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thanks

spice rivet
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I also slapped some evs on em real quick to save you a bit of VP/tickets

golden lance
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thx

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forgot to ask

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do you have a kingambit?

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I legit thought i had one icant

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Also @fading stratus how we feeling about this one?

fading stratus
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You want a shuca berry on incin

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Your whole team dies to ground move otherwise

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There's also just no ground immunity

spice rivet
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I can make one, but my lunch just ended

golden lance
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Ah

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That's ok, thanks a ton

spice rivet
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Will try to ping ya a bit later tho

golden lance
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Might also need to replay the whole tutorial to get my champions linked to the proper nintendo account

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Rip to the 2 dailes i completed so far

fading stratus
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Do we think this is genned

vagrant steppe
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Oh can we transfer the mons we got from the Gacha out of champions?

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They're not stuck there, right?

golden lance
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No right?

fading stratus
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Idts yeah

vagrant steppe
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Dammit

golden lance
vagrant steppe
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So my rotom can't go to home or even change forms?

golden lance
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Shittiest pkhex job of my life icant

fading stratus
vagrant steppe
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Wait if I bring a mon to champions to fix their EVs/nature will those be modified if I send them to home?

golden lance
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I think they are independant

vagrant steppe
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Lame!

golden lance
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So they return to what they were when sent back

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But then still still be modified if sent to champs again

vagrant steppe
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That's weird

fading stratus
golden lance
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Oh shit golisopod buff

fading stratus
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This is genned right
Like who tf in their right mind gens iron boulder

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Oh yeah choccy

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Check if you can put genned stuff into champions

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If you can we don't even have to hunt for legit looking stuffs

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Just 6 Diego Mewtwo team baby

golden lance
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I kinda want to attends regionals idk about you

fading stratus
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I don't

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I don't have regionals

golden lance
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Seems to match everything

fading stratus
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I'm not keeping it tho

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Probably will trade for sth

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This looks legit? It's technically 31 atk IVs but that's possible

golden lance
fading stratus
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Speed tiers

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Aerodactyl is relavent ig

vagrant steppe
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Wait, how is Sun the best thing to do in champions but we're no in weather wars?

sharp kernel
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Alright, I'm back on a big win streak, I think I finally found a team I can vibe with

vagrant steppe
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Is rain not also very good?

sharp kernel
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we are in weather wars

vagrant steppe
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Meganium feels like it carries rain hard, no?

fading stratus
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Meganium isn't even the best mega to play in rain

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It's dnite

sharp kernel
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Outside of Floette, what's working currently is proven strats, give the meta sometime to evolve

vagrant steppe
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Really?

sharp kernel
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it's only day 2

vagrant steppe
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I feel like dnite would get countered by floette hard?

fading stratus
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Floette can't ohko it with multiscale

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Iirc

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I've genuinely not seen a single person who has said meganium is broken

outer eagle
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Grass is certainly no Flying in terms of spammable STAB, especially given the 30% confusion frogethink

hasty anchor
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Well, the champions moment has passed

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Time to keep looking forward to Winds/Waves

sharp kernel
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Currently on this, has been fun to actually start winning again

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Also shifted Krookodile to be more supportive

outer eagle
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Is that Soft Sand or Brightpowder?

sharp kernel
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Bright powder. Thought about soft sand, but I just wanted to be annoying

hasty anchor
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Ayyy Krookodile

twin shard
outer eagle
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Dnite really do be the avatar, it learns almost all elemental moves both physical and special KEKW

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All 3 elemental Punchs, BoltBeamThrowerSurf, and their upgraded variants, with EdgeQuake on top

fading stratus
sharp kernel
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Breaking Swipe Krookodile is putting in so much work for me right now

sharp kernel
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It turns out when you run good pokemon, you don’t have to soul read people as often, who knew @fading stratus

hasty anchor
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Breaking Swipe's nice

spice rivet
hasty anchor
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I like these kinds of moves that will debilitate the target (This, Icy Wind, Snarl, etc.)

sharp kernel
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Yeah it helps that in the case of breaking swipe and icy wind in this meta, you’re hitting a lot of things for super effective damage

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So my low investment attack Krookodile is still doing around 25% to garchomp

hasty anchor
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Show em who the real desert apex is!

spice rivet
vagrant steppe
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I kinda hate the editing on this

spice rivet
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@golden lance lmk when youre ready I can sauce you over that Kingambit

golden lance
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@spice rivet on it

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Thanks a bunch bro

spice rivet
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Np, Now give em hell!

golden lance
spice rivet
sharp kernel
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That’s unfortunate

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Oh didn’t even expect that maintenances, I was thinking you lost off the AP boost

kind vortex
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ye they announced it last night, should be around 4 hours

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ends a bit before the first global competition is supposed to start

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meanwhile in non-champions news

vagrant steppe
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Rain sucks ass without Archaludon, I'm pivoting to Dragonite, a sweeper, and 2 supports

hasty anchor
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I find rain funny with Archaludon

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Mostly cause I think it hates rain normally, and tries hiding during rainy weather due to its metal skin corroding easily.

vagrant steppe
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Guess I'll hold off on rain until the Gacha likes me

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Wish I could send a duraludon and evolve it because I'm not buying the SV dlc

sharp kernel
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Who’s your rain setter

vagrant steppe
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Pelliper

sharp kernel
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Have you tried politoed?

vagrant steppe
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Nah, I could give it a try, but Pelliper has tailwind

fading stratus
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Peli is definitely the better setter but if your mega is gengar you should be on poli

vagrant steppe
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Was gonna run a core of Pelliper, Meganium, Archaludon, Palafin (don't have a male basculegion), Dnite, and a flex slot

pseudo goblet
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Use Peli And Poli clearly

vagrant steppe
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I've got GTS offers to try and get Archaludon and Male Basculegion

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Offering a scream tail and female basculegion

sharp kernel
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I was over rain just as fast as I got into it tbh

vagrant steppe
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I feel like Meganium can't not be good

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So I really just wanna play around with her

sharp kernel
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Unironically, while playing rain, I hated my time basculegion M, and felt like Araquanid just did more with the team I had

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Also, because wide guard

sleek sky
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I was unaware Champions had a Switch 1 version

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Might download it

pseudo goblet
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Trying to drag my one irl friend(havent spoke for 3 monthsicant) into Champion, basically pokemon as a whole lmao

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Dude’s reaction to me saying Im also weak at battling icant

fading stratus
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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They probably fixed the home issues

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That was the point for the maintainance

swift jasper
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When are they fixing mons randomly healing off random shit?

fading stratus
sharp kernel
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Made it to the top 300 of the warm up challenge, before realizing that there’s literally no point to actually play it, because all you get is the gardevoir after playing 3 matches lol

kind vortex
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i'm not even particularly building for vgc right now, so i'll probably just do the 3 games and dip back to my singles grind (and build for vgc later)

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bc doing the participation for that seems a better use of my time than hitting more special attacking mega gyarados sets in singles

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won a game i should have lost if their sets were more competent

kind vortex
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did the 3 battles, went 3-0, somehow

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i just brought one of my singles teams and cleaned house

pseudo goblet
lyric pollen
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Mega aboma is so goated

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Head empty i click blizz

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I have been punished for not buying the dlc tho, need sinischa

midnight spear
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this feels really good

fading stratus
fading stratus
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Golurk apparently won a 173 man tournament

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They've apparently fixed the haze bug

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And mega evolution order tho

swift jasper
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173 personas...

pseudo goblet
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Idgt

pseudo goblet
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Yeah that, still dgi lmao

lyric pollen
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Is there a champions gts?

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Golurk farig seems decent

outer eagle
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is Chomp-Z legal

lyric pollen
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I dont think so

midnight spear
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
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Thats it??

fading stratus
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Ye

warm sky
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Genuinely have no idea how now-dozens of moves/interactions are broken despite being fine for upwards of 20 years. Sheer volume of these is concerning for a battle simulator with more devtime than whole Pokemon games like ORAS or Platinum.

QRT: DaWoblefet
In a ranked battle I had this evening, my Sneasler used Fake Out into a Mega Charizard Y, but it didn't flinch. I have no idea why this happened.

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icy heath
warm sky
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that made this

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prewatched

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my plan for mega floette is to dodge it

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https://youtu.be/sI71qmXSuaM @warm sky here's your perish team

Today I will be showcasing the Mega Gengar Perish Trap team that I used to get master ball tier in 3 hours with a 21-1 record.

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Teams from the tournament: https://youtu.be/65JcXgENt0k?si=6qnqmQgSTMSopry-

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golden lance
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@fading stratus THEY NERFED ASTRAL BARRAGE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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(by 10 bp but still)

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Yeah

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But not glacial lance

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10 BP loss essentially makes it 82.5BP instead of 90 BP

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Which is still very strong

midnight spear
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voices are telling me to remove incin for sneasler

golden lance
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Oh yea was "extremely effective" always a thing?

fading stratus
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nope

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starting champions

vagrant steppe
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Nah, added for champions

pseudo goblet
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What they said

spice rivet
midnight spear
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Sneasler does better into into mega floette

spice rivet
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Body Press + Brave Bird Iron Defense and Roost/Protect

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Thats fair

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Or maybe Excadrill so you can have a full sand mode & Excadrill + Ttar pressure a lot of the current Mega Floette team

midnight spear
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And it is my only problem mu

spice rivet
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Thats fair

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Also, ive seen some people use Unaware Sleledirge against Mega Floette with some success since theyre generally Calm Mind sweepers

maiden flax
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the point against mega golurk was

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its a physical attacker thats prone to being intimidated

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like its probably fine but definitely not top tier

sharp kernel
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sigh why couldn't I have been born in March

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I get swagless charizard over chad Ampharos

sand forge
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How the hell did Flygon not get a Mega again

fading stratus
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skill issue really

maiden flax
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I’ve never seen anyone completely shit themselves harder than a Mega Charizard Y who realizes they can’t click sun-boosted Heat Wave against the grass type that they outspeed lmao

Quoting Lorelei (@Normalssbbbx)

mega victreebel is the most goated bailout mon of all time lmao you just throw it into the woodchipper against sun and trade with zard

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Yeah this was about what I expected people would be using this mon for lmao

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Basically sit there and be annoying cause if they one shot you they die if they dont you can do other stuff

fading stratus
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glad it found a niche

maiden flax
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Yeah

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80 HP stops a lot of offensive mons from just knocking it out willynilly

fading stratus
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if it got rage powder

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that would be a cool nice

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but without rage powder

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its just a gimmick

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champions nuzlocke holy shit

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new nuzlocke idea just dropped

sonic inlet
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Tbf it might still be a better gimmick than the mega hawlucha OTK lol

spice rivet
fading stratus
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the team does work really well doesnt it

sonic inlet
spice rivet
# spice rivet

For context: T1 I used T Wave into Glim and Parting Shot with Incin. I knew they had Chomp in the back so used Draco. Read them like a book 🤣

icy heath
spice rivet
icy heath
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oh hey bun

icy heath
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Oh hey bolt

fading stratus
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bruial also said hi to you

icy heath
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Hiiiii bruial

sonic inlet
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Shame they gave hyper beam such a good animation but we probably will never see it in an actual game nukgar

fading stratus
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sylveon unironically plays hyper beam

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also specs turtle does run hyper beam

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because specs tera stellar hyper beam nukes CIR iirc

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or does relavent damage

maiden flax
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I wonder if the trop kick buff let's tsareena function better as a support mon
85 BP attack lowering grass move with queenly majesty as the ability

fading stratus
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252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera-Stellar Terapagos-Stellar Hyper Beam vs. 244 HP / 100 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider: 208-246 (100.9 - 119.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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yeah

maiden flax
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tsareena is already a pretty decent support mon in doubles
but it only sees play in exactly kyogre teams

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because raging bolt thunderclap

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and it ohkos with wide lens triple axel

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well "support"

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the support is queenly majesty

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and rillaboom ig

icy heath
fading stratus
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nope just dm he told me to say hi to you mug zane and choccy

icy heath
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I thought I hadn't seen the cutie in a while

fading stratus
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yeah he said he left the server

icy heath
spice rivet
outer eagle
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Wao i see people actually huffing copium for Victreebel

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Truly nothing is impossible

golden lance
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The funniest thing i'm seeing champions do is making people reinvent pokemon showdown's rules from first principles

vagrant steppe
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Too high IQ

swift jasper
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Did you see this one, saint?

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My friend's theory is that the auto builder sucks

vagrant steppe
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I can see it. How the fuck are more of them on Frosslassite than Sitrus Berry

swift jasper
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They wanted a goth ghost girl

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Not grandpa

sonic inlet
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Oh they fixed the lightning rod bug

swift jasper
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Ye

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I saw someone say that

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And mega evolve timings

vagrant steppe
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Oh wait I know how it happens

sonic inlet
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Yep, it's not random anymore

vagrant steppe
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If you swap a pokemon into a new slot, it leaves the item in the slot

sonic inlet
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The trans gallade is still in the tutorial tho lol

swift jasper
icy heath
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@fading stratus chatting with foolish

golden lance
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THE SWITCH 2 HAS A CHARGING PORT ON THE TOP I'VE BEEN PLAYING ON THIS THING WRONG THE WHOLE TIME

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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

mighty storm
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Pokémon Champions ha corregido algunos errores tras un breve mantenimiento:

➡️ El orden de la Megaevolución ya no es aleatorio.
➡️ Los movimientos Niebla y Día Soleado ya no provocan la ilusión visual de recuperar todos los PS del Pokémon.
➡️ El movimiento Otra Vez no provoca

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Trans Gallade PogYu !!!!!

icy heath
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
void herald
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damn i hope he's okay sadcat

pseudo goblet
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Talking with him rn, yikes

void herald
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what happened?

pseudo goblet
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Not sure I should send screenshot of sad subject sweateragent

void herald
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understandable, i just hope he's okay

pseudo goblet
golden lance
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I would also like to know

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If possible

pseudo goblet
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One sec

hasty anchor
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Hoping they are alright

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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Yeah

midnight spear
void herald
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this was how i felt when i saw lucario in pokemon mystery dungeon

golden lance
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Brui said hi

pseudo goblet
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Miss him pensivecowboybread

spice rivet
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Same, hope theyre ok and safe

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Also, thinking of tweaking my Chesnaught a bit so he's a bit more sturdy to Special attacks. 1 is what I currently have rn

golden lance
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Does venu tend to run solar beam or energy ball?

spice rivet
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Depends on the purpose and role on the team

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Like ones that have the option to Mega tend to energy ball si ce you arent reliant on Sun

golden lance
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I see

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Thinking of running a sash lead

spice rivet
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For Sash lead id do Energy ball since the Turn 1 weather can be so volatile

golden lance
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I see, ty

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Also arch can just replace press for aura sphere without consequences right?

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Fighting coverage is still very good rn

spice rivet
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Agreed

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Ya I think most Arch are now Electro/Flash/Aura/Protect or Flex spot

golden lance
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I was considering dragon pulse over tect

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Chomp's kind of an issue

spice rivet
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Honestly, thats valid

fading stratus
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I'd just play leaf storm in venu

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Over any other grass move really

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It's just a insta nuke button

pseudo goblet
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100 accurate in grass terrain

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Still adjusting to Bruial leave not gonna lie pensivecowboybread

fading stratus
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Yeah it's a shame he had to leave

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When are you playing champions vro

pseudo goblet
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Mind felt hesitant when I use clearly just now

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Like, why brain, its not like clearly and Bruial are tied together, moreso to Bolt even

pseudo goblet
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Stayed up 3 am 3 days ago

Body kinda pushed me to stay in bed once 10 pm hits past 2 days

fading stratus
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yeah makes sense

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did they nerf fucking make it rain by reducing accuracy by 5

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holy shit

pseudo goblet
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Wasn’t it like 95

fading stratus
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it was 100

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now its 95

pseudo goblet
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Huh

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Better than 90% then

fading stratus
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bloodmoon also 130 bp now

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instead of 140

pseudo goblet
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Guess we can chat with Bruial for a while after Champ full release

fading stratus
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yeah

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zane you still sure on zard

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and not any other mega

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like its good but I dont want you to play mostly mirrors

pseudo goblet
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I wouldn’t mind changing

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What would you recommend nyaruhodo

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Tho I am curious for Skarmory

fading stratus
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which mega do you like

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no

pseudo goblet
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Aight lol

fading stratus
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like its probably playable but idt its like great

pseudo goblet
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Literally happened to Emboar

fading stratus
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true

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wanna play the second best starter

pseudo goblet
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That is

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wanna make a guess

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its obviously meganium clearly

pseudo goblet
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Okay lol

fading stratus
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jokes aside delphox

pseudo goblet
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Thought yall disappointed by Levitate

fading stratus
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it isnt broken now

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but its fine

pseudo goblet
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Btw is this casual Champ, ytb tour or Vgc tour

fading stratus
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I'll just recommend you to stick to a team for all

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you'll learn how the team works

pseudo goblet
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Aight

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Whose on the team clearly

fading stratus
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incineroar

fading stratus
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starmie is probs fine

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but probs need a rain team

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or dragon claw instead of scale shot

midnight spear
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normal dragonite kinda bad mega is kinda just better

fading stratus
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they do two different things

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@pseudo goblet here I edited the dnite item too

pseudo goblet
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wdym

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oh instead of knock off

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lmao

pseudo goblet
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Yup lmao

lone harbor
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alright i like

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have a competent rain core now

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which is nice

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currently rocking mega-geng, politoed, archaludon, incin, and bascu-m

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i WANT last mon to be sinistcha

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but i uh

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dont have one

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so rn we're making do with a rotating cast of dogshit

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LMAO

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im also like

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testing m-dnite vs archaludon

fading stratus
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you can play both

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double dragon isnt really bad

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lone harbor
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i need like

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smth that helps keep m-gen alive or redirects

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but i literally dont have

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a single fucking redirector

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in my ENTIRE BOX

pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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yeah

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also zane

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play that dnite with lum berry

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not white herb

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the more I thought about the sun matchup

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I realised you need lum

lone harbor
pseudo goblet
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Well shit

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Uhhh

fading stratus
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Sinistcha

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Incineroar

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For fake out

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You can run maushold

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Or even Clefable

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If you need redirector

pseudo goblet
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Asking what it do

spice rivet
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Hard stuck at Ultra Ball 1 surprisingly. Def need to fix up the team and/or switch to another team. Running into lots of Mega Ge gar all of a sudden

maiden flax
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I'm taking my time

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#PokemonPokopia! 🩵
I’m soo excited for this game! Didn’t expect them to drop new variants though 👀 Love them so much especially Peakychu and Smearguru!

#Pokemon #Pokemonart

Peakychu my beloved

嬉しくて眠れないピーニャくん

姉弟らくがき〜🍎🍵🤍

🏫🩷

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Including sleep

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
pseudo goblet
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did you even look at the team

pseudo goblet
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well I just meant

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inspiration to the team ig?

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idk how to explain

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but you'll get it once you look

pseudo goblet
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Kinda expecting what it is now lol

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pseudo goblet
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Btw thought its a similar team to past ones

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Which this is very not lol

fading stratus
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(I wanted you to say this is gary's team smh)

pseudo goblet
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he has a hatterene

pseudo goblet
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Since when KEKW

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One of his time with Ash and Goh? KEKW

fading stratus
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ye

pseudo goblet
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Ahh, last bit of Journey that isnt Ash tournament fights nyaruhodo

fading stratus
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but yeah you should play the previous team this was just a funny one I thought of

pseudo goblet
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Thought we re switchin to phox

fading stratus
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previous team as in phox ye

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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yeah

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put lum berry in dnite

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also hopitality sinistcha not heatproof

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that was a misclick

pseudo goblet
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I kinda wanna hunt more Fennekin for a female one

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If Champ fixed the limbo problem

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I have my fears alright lol

fading stratus
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I think so yeah

pseudo goblet
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Ya I been heard they mightve but ya know

fading stratus
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yeah dwai

pseudo goblet
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Huh, think I only have one shiny bisharp

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Yup

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Checked

maiden flax
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@fading stratus I'm loving the trop kick buff

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and triple axle

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tho it being 85 bp does make it way better

maiden flax
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totally worth it now

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(still have triple axel cause, ofc, its great for the garchomps and dnites of the ladder)

fading stratus
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yeah makes sense

maiden flax
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also starting to get a hang on doubles

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currently trying to find a good ground type for my team

maiden flax
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you can play scarf mamo

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depending on what your team requires

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rhyperior if you have trick room

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or mudsdale

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that's probably it tho

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oh yeah megolurk

vagrant steppe
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Okay got an Archaludon from the GTS, I can finally play rain

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Archaludon is a monster, I see why this guy was banned immediately

fading stratus
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and its without body press rn btw

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it had body press in SV

vagrant steppe
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I know! It's fucking crazy

maiden flax
vagrant steppe
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What do you mean electro shot gets to be solar beam + sp attack boost?

fading stratus
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mamo can work on tailwind team

maiden flax
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Yeah electro shot archaludon is crazy

fading stratus
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but chomp probably is the best most of the time

vagrant steppe
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Who decided it's signature move can do that

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Mega Dragonite is also way better than expected

maiden flax
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I do have a mamoswine on my rentals so I think I might perma recruit it and see how it goes

warm sky
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okay wtf some of the move nerfs kinda confuse me

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like they nerfed gholdengo in the funniest way

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||95% accuracy now||

maiden flax
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maiden flax
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oh right 120 beak blast sounds cool

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for singles

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wait, clangerous soul is now perfectly accurate?

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or more to it

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why wasnt it already perfectly accurate?

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why was triple dive only 30 to begin with?

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35 makes way more sense

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spin out to 10 pp isnt going to convince anyone into using it

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revelation dance to 100 is crazy cause that move was already really good, even though oricorio itself was mid

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infernal parade is now officially better hex

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all the protects down to 5 pp

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gear grind and mountainous gale are finally good moves

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lots of 80 into 90

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the two apple attacks im very interested in

fading stratus
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no surging strike into 20 tho

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make that shit 20 and 65

maiden flax
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i wonder if the hyper drill buff will do anything

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previously dudunsparce in singles would be a spatk

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cause iirc it has boomburst right?

fading stratus
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yeah

maiden flax
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wait

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dire claw is a slicing move now which is hilarious lol

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they really took all the claw moves have made them slicing moves

fading stratus
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I wonder if they've nerfed the raidons

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surely the ability have taken a hit right

sonic inlet
warm sky
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Why hasn't gamefreak buffed triple kick

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To match triple axel

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They do the same thing, except axel has actual high damage

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Are they that afraid of Technician Hitmontop

maiden flax
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oh hey, champions ou is up on showdown

fading stratus
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hitmontop doesnt even use technician on doubles

warm sky
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Amd that's exactly why I think they should buff it

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Like, oh no it'll have a good stab to use over CC

maiden flax
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@fading stratus how do i stop leading whimsicott every game

fading stratus
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whims is honestly insane in a lower powered format

maiden flax
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it is yeah

fading stratus
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I checked and hitmontop is like 16th best intimidator or sth

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bro its worse than a mfing bull

warm sky
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Well ye incin stole its niche

fading stratus
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not necessarily tbh

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harcanine is still very much used

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and so are the tauros formes in a low powered format

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as long as the format has mirror herb

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and obv gyara

pseudo goblet
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Bolt, any chance theres a team for Mega Greninja

fading stratus
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I can probably find or make you a team but like

pseudo goblet
#

Scheming how make my naruto friend join Pokemon Champ lol

fading stratus
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gren isnt really a goated mega

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ah

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I;ll look up

pseudo goblet
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My knowledge on the dude is literally

Like Ninja

Like Orange

fading stratus
spice rivet
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1 Ttar, 1 Dragon Dance and a goddamn dream 😤

obsidian juniper
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
pseudo goblet
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Jesus why is it used both hiragana and katagana

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The moves names

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Although cant do shit anyway since Idek what the moves would be

fading stratus
maiden flax
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i will say, all these charizard ys is making it extremely easy to switch into chandy

fading stratus
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here is a non mega greninja team

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its got the orange charizard zane

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orange and ninja

maiden flax
pseudo goblet
maiden flax
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there's a lot of them running around

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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thats heat wave weather ball solarbeam protect

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and i dont even know jp

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tauros looks like raging bull close combat idk dark type move and protect

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kingambit is iron head sucker punch kowtow cleave protect

pseudo goblet
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Surely theres no explosion-team

fading stratus
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whimsicott is moonblast tailwind sunny day protect