Okay Venusaur and/or Charizard Y easy
#Pokemon
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
short heath
Mega Sol pretends every move it uses is sun boosted
fading stratus
mega sol makes it so that your moves always act like sun is on the field so 1 turn solarbeam
pseudo goblet
Oooh do I want Emboar lol
tacit sphinx
idk man
short heath
Spicy Spray burns anything that uses a damaging move on it
hasty anchor
...But personally, I'd say Blaziken, Starmie or Golurk
pseudo goblet
Bolt have you check Emboar moves yet
tacit sphinx
Mega Sol actually sounds pretty neat
hasty anchor
Wait crap Blaziken isn't on this
tacit sphinx
Wait so
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no I dont need to
tacit sphinx
Growth?
tacit sphinx
Dang
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its like synthesis weather ball solarbeam
hasty anchor
Oh right, I don't think I saw Raz react to Mega Meganium yet
tacit sphinx
That can't be it surely
hasty anchor
...Well, how was it?
fading stratus
yeah we looked through it when it was revealed
sharp kernel
I vsed 2.5 real teams out of 7 games?
short heath
That can't be it surely
It is
sharp kernel
pseudo goblet
Mega Sol actually sounds pretty neat
So basically Raz, one turn Solarbeam even in rain
sharp kernel
Araquanid and Noivern have unironically been putting in insane work for me
hasty anchor
Sun, sun, mr. golden sun
kill my enemies~
pseudo goblet
And all the weather actually
hasty anchor
Also learns Weather Ball
Which gains more power in sunlight, and I think given it is now a fire-type move, even more power
sharp kernel
Also, politoed hits so much harder than people expect
hasty anchor
Wait, isn't there like a move that like
-Oh, right, you need the mega stone to use it
So you can't use Harvest
...I don't think Meganium learned that anyways, but it's impossible anyways
sharp kernel
I vsed a sun team, and they put out the sun, which let my politoed’s weather ball do 80+ % to their Venusaur 
And my -2 Araquanid cleaned up
pseudo goblet
Mega Sol for every weather? 
pseudo goblet
Hey Bolt, what if Ludicolo gets Mega Sol
hasty anchor
It's a status move, not growth, that did something more impressive in sunlight
pseudo goblet
Dual(?) wielding weather
hasty anchor
...What the crap, Chikorita doesn't!?
fading stratus
cant be having the fatass grow even more
sharp kernel
Oh big FYI, idk if it was mentioned yet
Reaching great ball tier gives you 5 more slots
I’m assuming it’s the same as you go up
hasty anchor
Sure, let's not allow Chikorita to learn Growth, but give the move to mons like Numel and Illumise
Totally makes sense
ARGH
sharp kernel
I probably shouldn’t go for ultra ball tonight
But why not
This troll team is actually so fun
hasty anchor
Look, all Meganium needs is sun, water, and some loving care
sharp kernel
Super fang chesnaught has been destroying every single sand team
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mega or not mega
sharp kernel
Non mega
pseudo goblet
Symph being mad is such a rare sight lmao
pseudo goblet
Okay gtg for a 30 minutes, Pocket and Master EX daily refresh soon
sharp kernel
Need level 27 on the battle pass for meganiumnite
magic thunder
this is the funniest game ever bro
spice rivet
mighty storm
they nerfed sleep
spice rivet
Pokemon fans 🤝 being dramatic
sharp kernel
I wish I could show you guys some of the sets in running right now
They’re pretty funny
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dark aura darkrai could actually be sick
mighty storm
btw, mega starmie ability is huge power
spice rivet
One thing I do genuinely hate in the game: No replay function
pseudo goblet
spice rivet
Please add
outer eagle
Darkrai just needs Dark Void unnerf
fading stratus
look like decent sets honestly
sharp kernel
Araquanid checking torkoal under trick room was huge for me getting safe switches in
warm sky
thre;s no fucking way
tacit sphinx
cant be having the fatass grow even more
why you fatshaming meganium in 2026
sharp kernel
Good win vs Gengar + Whimsicott lead with sneasler + Araquanid in the back
I led Manectric + Krookodile
With Araquanid + politoed in the back
fading stratus
Manectric is like best counter to that shit
It's faster and can voltswitch
And they can't encore krookodile
sharp kernel
Yeah, he immediately had to switch out his Gengar
tacit sphinx
stalwart on mega skarm???
Remind me what Stalwart does
midnight spear
im a little evil
pseudo goblet
How many of these I have and ready I wonder
mighty storm
so I hear champions isnt good?
pseudo goblet
Idh Aerodactyle, Chimecho, Absol maybe? EF Floette just no way, Crabominable…, Drampa…, Glimmora…
sharp kernel
Win streak stopped at 10. I lost due to my own misplay
maiden flax
stalwart on mega skarm???
Tbf
Mega skarm was going to be good (in singles) regardless of which ability it got
So something that specifically helps it in doubles is fine
fading stratus
Stalwart isn't a good ability tho
It's like playable ish
But like
You'd rather have a good ability
pseudo goblet
You'd rather have a good ability
Someone likes Mega Golurk lol
outer eagle
Golurk has Rage Fist now apparently
maiden flax
Golurk has Rage Fist now apparently
It doesn't btw
I double checked
Currently I'm using only mons I've gotten from the recruit system with a team of mega chandy + whimsicott
fading stratus
That 159 atk turns into like 100 when you get intimidated
Idt it's worth using your mega on a intimidate prone mon
I think crabominable is better because it can't get intimidated
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
Nasty plot
sharp kernel
Worst, they calm minded me
pseudo goblet
Calm Mind sounds less evil
outer eagle
Setup Sweepers are usually more evil
warm sky
Also I need to ask Gamefreak
TRACE ON MEGA MEOWSTIC???
WHY IS IT A WORSE MEGA ALAKAZAM
sonic inlet
So does champions have singles
warm sky
So does champions have singles
No
swift jasper
Game ruined
It's not a dating app
fading stratus
X
warm sky
Anyway I so
Disable Encore is back in business for Gengar and its partner in crime Whimsicott
👁️
warm sky
Yeahh
sonic inlet
Ig we wait yeah
warm sky
bro encore now overrides lightning rod
Lmao what
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yeah
warm sky
How
sonic inlet
But releasing the game half finished doesn't surprise me at all atp
warm sky
Gamefreak moment
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they probably rushed to meet the deadline
I expect the game to get a major update before Indy
or else it'd be a shitfest
pseudo goblet
Realize I will be in fighting in this mess, twice 
warm sky
Either way, time to get an actual team now that we have the info
Bc
Holy shit lack of choice items and lo means that it's so easy to perish trap
fading stratus
just wait a day or two before we get all mechanics and learnsets
warm sky
Fuck are they gonna do, expert belt
pseudo goblet
Bolt quick, make a counter perish trap with the limited resource 
sonic inlet
Some things never change
swift jasper
Perish politoed...
pseudo goblet
Was Yanmega in first wave
fading stratus
nope this is the gen 4 roster
pseudo goblet
Actually… how many bug got in, hold up
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lemme count
pseudo goblet
Oh thanks
pseudo goblet
Bruh lol
warm sky
pseudo goblet
Why Vivillon man <:icant:1310294700384714813>
Im not saying they bad, dont get me wrong 
warm sky
incin is your best mon
fading stratus
hate to break it to you man but Vivillon is like one of the best bugs in the game
warm sky
Yeah different ally
warm sky
Shit
pseudo goblet
So obvious best 3 bugs are Scizor, Volcarona and ig Vivillon
fading stratus
I missed vivillon probs so that makes it 9 bugs ig
pseudo goblet
So, pretty much the usual
pseudo goblet
I missed vivillon probs so that makes it 9 bugs ig
Did you use different roster pic? Lol
pseudo goblet
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pseudo goblet
I just looked past it
Like Vivillon took 10% of the pic lol
warm sky
Time to hunt
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pseudo goblet
Time to hunt
Eh I wouldve, but dont wanna bother if I cant take it Home honestly
sharp kernel
Alright, I’m done for the night
Got to tier 1 in great ball
I’m running into 1 huge issue
I have no answer for mega meganium
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just play sneasler
warm sky
just play sneasler
Sneasler nerfed bte
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that shit gets like half hit ko'd
warm sky
30% chance on its bullshit move
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its basically a "nerf"
warm sky
Instead of 50
sharp kernel
Ngl, everytime I’ve ran into sneasler today he’s done jack shit
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sneasler is pretty good if you can use it
sharp kernel
The weavile I just lost to did more than sneasler vs me all day
fading stratus
people are probably play random ass moves in it
instead of just dire claw close combat fake out
sharp kernel
Fake out is probably the one move I haven’t seen all day on sneasler, but all of them have been close combat dire claw
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unburden sneasler is like THE FASTEST mon of the format
it outspeeds scarfed stuff in tailwind
which is wild
sharp kernel
I think I need to start looking at possibly cutting politoed a d Araquanid
I actually do like how well manectric and Krookodile work together
fading stratus
you know what it works well with?
incineroar
both can switch and intimidate
then you can put like a setup sweeper
pseudo goblet
Eh I wouldve, but dont wanna bother if I cant take it Home honestly
Now that I think about it, I do wanna know whats the shiny odds lol
So whats the plan, play Champion like crazy or I should just wait a few more days
Like finish catching up Digimon
fading stratus
a few days wait is fine
people are complaining about limited items
but I really like limited items ngl
outer eagle
Aside from opposing Sash revealing your own Sash is their any practical changes to this?
warm sky
Aside from opposing Sash revealing your own Sash is their any practical changes ...
I think it might've straight up procced
sonic inlet
Pretty sure the bug is that somehow the game gave pult's sash to gyarados no
warm sky
So you'd lose your own sash
outer eagle
Pretty sure the bug is that somehow the game gave pult's sash to gyarados no
We don't know what Gya's item was so hard to say
It could have genuinely been holding a Sash itself
If you lose your Sash when an opposing Sash is used that would be a pretty huge bug 
If you transfer your Sash to an opponent then lmao 
sonic inlet
Yeah either way it's really bad to see on a released game
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outer eagle
Potential Mega
outer eagle
Some copium running around for Mega Skarm
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yeah everything
sonic inlet
You forgot spidops
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goatidops
midnight spear
my team in champions is kinda really good
warm sky
@pseudo goblet BUG STONKS
sonic inlet
warm sky
Smh I already posted that info
sonic inlet
warm sky
Oh also Mega Sol confirmed to unnerf fire moves in rain
Weather Ball isn't affected by rain
fading stratus
speculations is that mobile version launches after regulation MA ends
in june 18th
pseudo goblet
<@430667447692034059> BUG STONKS
Amazing, but too bad I never practiced using it
I think mons that has it are pod, kix and maybe dops??
fading stratus
this team from aaron honestly looks pretty good
pseudo goblet
Actually no, if Spidops had First impression surely I wouldve heard about it
pseudo goblet
spidops gets it too
Ah
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and slither wing
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this team from aaron honestly looks pretty good
zane do get these 6 mons
pseudo goblet
Do I put Haxorus in honorary bug team lol
fading stratus
sure
golden lance
I'm back
pseudo goblet
Much to your dislike for Dire Claw lol
pseudo goblet
this team from aaron honestly looks pretty good
Also yeah I could work with this
fading stratus
we'll probably play
sash
close combat, dire claw, throat chop, fake out
pseudo goblet
Nah Outbreaks are better chance
Besides, I could side track and do Arcanine
Probably do Elekid too if I remember
Or do ZA have it
I just need the shiny sound to find it willingly
fading stratus
do an orthworm too
pseudo goblet
do an orthworm too
Done
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32+ Atk Orthworm Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Floette-Eternal: 192-228 (106 - 125.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
pseudo goblet
32+ Atk Orthworm Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Floette-Eternal: 192-228 ...
What about on defense with same mons 
pseudo goblet
Is Champions good or not
Its modern pokemon standard I feel
tacit sphinx
So are people overreacting or not
fading stratus
people are complaining no items but no items are fine
tacit sphinx
but it has its fair share of bugs
I thought it didn't, that's why Zane was complaining
fading stratus
because its supposed to get beginners learn the game
tacit sphinx
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so having limited pool of megas/items makes sense
pseudo goblet
I thought it didn't, that's why Zane was complaining
Technological bug maybe, Raz lol
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I thought it didn't, that's why Zane was complaining
there;s a bug with focus sash idk exactly what, now encore overrides lightningrod presumably storm drain too
tehre's still ambiguity on what mega evolves first
pseudo goblet
Not the better kind of bugs lol
fading stratus
there are decent amount of bugs
but if they fix the bugs and stuff it becomes a fine game honestly
like yeah EF Floette is paywalled and its probably going to be one of the best megas
but yeah
pseudo goblet
P2W 
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the game is surprisingly F2P
pseudo goblet
Grindy
outer eagle
P2P
pseudo goblet
zane do get these 6 mons
Btw got plans for Choccy team?
midnight spear
what do we think about this
https://pokepast.es/11b55963f417d0dc
pseudo goblet
Was Kingambit in first wave??
fading stratus
yeah
pseudo goblet
Welp
pseudo goblet
this team from aaron honestly looks pretty good
… wait I just saw, not even Thick fat venusaur
fading stratus
it'll be chlorophyll
sludge bomb
giga drain maybe
earth power/sleep powder
protect
I just dk if sleep powder is that good because sleep is nerfed
fading stratus
no need yeah
you can probs play like
Sludge Bomb
Leaf Storm
Sleep Powder?
Protect
We'll test sleep powder and see if you'll like it
tacit sphinx
What the fuck is Innards Out again
fading stratus
it deals some damage to the mon that kills it
pseudo goblet
Aftermath
pseudo goblet
Ig, automatic pain split/reversal upon death
fading stratus
if chomp is popular honestly shuca berry Incin might be the way
thats a sylveon vro
golden lance
No it's not
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golden lance
fading stratus
now the expected turn of sleep for sleep powder is 1.25025
idk if its worth it
for spore its 1.667
obv its worth
pseudo goblet
Ig I should login today, for day 1 bragging rights lol
pseudo goblet
As in no rest for me or? Lol
warm sky
overgrow
pseudo goblet
Probably one or two fights, currently the priority list top by digimon
fading stratus
its fine you can play it over multiple days
golden lance
Takes up a box space
outer eagle
Then why claim it
fading stratus
its a maCHAMP
outer eagle
You might need it later 
fading stratus
machamp is actually a world champion
in seniors
back in I wanna say 2015?
or 2016
it was one of the USUM formats
outer eagle
More reason to save it then
fading stratus
machamp is honestly not an awful mon
but like
the quality of fighting types we've gotten in recent years
is way better
outer eagle
Smh Hariyama was already better
golden lance
fading stratus
like every one of the fighting types introduced in sv (sneasler too since it was only playable in sv) has been incredible
Except exactly slither wing
fading stratus
https://x.com/adisubra/status/2041749276678660467
yeah Ive talked about it
(and yes pawmot was pretty decent in reg H)
and early sv
outer eagle
What about Pawmo tho? 
outer eagle
Not if i forcefeed him this Everstone
pseudo goblet
Not if i forcefeed him this Everstone
sharp kernel
I’m on 2 hours of sleep and have the itch to grind again
pseudo goblet
cottonee yes, Maushold, I think the raid host one I got is Hold??
sharp kernel
Oh thanks for reminding me, I need a Maushold
pseudo goblet
cause iirc you cant get Tandemaus raid
swift jasper
Are band and specs not in the game?
warm sky
Are band and specs not in the game?
No life orb too
swift jasper
What the fuck
fading stratus
no AV either
its like
berries
type boosting items
sash and scarf
and lefties
and mega stones obv
I think not having all items at start is fine tho
it kinda adds to that regional dex restriction too
sonic inlet
the most standard item on palafin
Thought it was always banded like in singles
fading stratus
ah no
you play like
jet punch wave crash haze protect
or close combat over haze
sonic inlet
Makes sense
vagrant steppe
So is champions as unoptimized and unfinished as I've been hearing?
sonic inlet
Think trish was on jet punch wave crash flip turn protect
vagrant steppe
I've heard it's kinda missing a lot of content and runs bad rn
sonic inlet
Focus sash also triggers randomly
sonic inlet
There's a bunch of weird bugs
sonic inlet
Yeah
vagrant steppe
Ah gotcha. Hopefully champions took the rushed fall so that Wind and Waves can be optimized?
fading stratus
like its a good decision to give like 30 items to give easier time for beginners trying to learn the game
champions runs at 30 fps but will probs get updates
sonic inlet
Most of the complaints I see are that there's no gen 3 starters no choice items besides scarf + no lorb
fading stratus
I expect game to be not buggy or atleast not much before NAIC
If its bugfest in NAIC it'd be awkward
on stream
thats probably why they released the game a month early before any champions events
first champions event is like malaysian nats which is next month
fading stratus
Most of the complaints I see are that there's no gen 3 starters no choice items ...
also AV
people were complaining that AV is needed when
calm mind floette can nuke everything
golden lance
Ah gotcha. Hopefully champions took the rushed fall so that Wind and Waves can b...
Thing is that game freak isnt even involved here
They handed champs to the BDSP devs
spice rivet
So is champions as unoptimized and unfinished as I've been hearing?
Switch 2 version has run fine for me, people just expected the game to be like Nat Dex OU right off the bat and have everything.
golden lance
I've gotten pretty noticeable lag spikes while playing on handheld
spice rivet
On Switch 1 Im guessing
vagrant steppe
https://x.com/DaWoblefet/status/2041715433582059803
So with this stupid rule, the correct move is to start stalling when losing, yeah?
golden lance
Yea
golden lance
On Switch 1 Im guessing
2
spice rivet
Huh, odd
vagrant steppe
Oh good news, we know the answer to what happens if Battle Bond Greninja mega evolves now. That answer? What's Battle Bond Greninja?
He has been completely removed via dexit
pseudo goblet
@fading stratus
Didnt know she like Golurk a lot 
Or maybe its the fact we re all stuck with limited playable units
vagrant steppe
Did... Haze read the health loss as a change to the health stat???
outer eagle
Finally Gen 1 Haze level
swift jasper
Did... Haze read the health loss as a change to the health stat???
Who knows
fading stratus
probably reversed hp change too
swift jasper
They start at 63 and end up with 92
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alongside stats change
outer eagle
Big Stall when 7 Recover PP
swift jasper
i doubt this is a consistent glitch
but considering the state of the game
maybe it is
fuck knows
i'm glad i didn't buy a switch for this
warm sky
Arch lost body press btw
warm sky
https://x.com/i/status/2041756619533439382
Scroll up
hexed valley
And?
swift jasper
warm sky
Kang didn't keep PuP
fading stratus
that was honestly expected
spice rivet
Kang didn't keep PuP <:pensivecowboybread:737367263635570688>
One of the first things I checked last night lmao
warm sky
They don't like seeing a single mother succeed
warm sky
Trick Room
And then like helping hand, psychic stab and/or foul play
And whatever you want
pseudo goblet
<@703113512901410858>
Now that I think about it, what DOES Meowstic have as its uses???
I doubt its Trace
sharp kernel
Bro, there’s no worse feeling than losing, and seeing the winning line after
Also I got double burned by matcha gatcha on my 2 physical attackers
warm sky
Now that I think about it, what DOES Meowstic have as its uses???
Earth Power
That's it
pseudo goblet
why earth power?
pseudo goblet
ahhh- yeah ^
pseudo goblet
alakazam if they give stats up for coverage
pseudo goblet
Just use Delphox
Honestly yeah I thought she would wanted it
Ig she already mentioned she like Scizor
vagrant steppe
WAIT RENTAL TEAMS REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE ALL THE MONS NOW?? WHY
pseudo goblet
@spice rivet @golden lance free version or starter pack
I shouldve done the download process before watching anime
golden lance
I'm holding off buying the starter pack for now
pseudo goblet
so you got the free one right
golden lance
Yea
pseudo goblet
alright~~ 7 dollar richer in a very weird way lmao
pseudo goblet
Kirby Air Rider*
Not supported*
oh fuck off 💢
part of me still dont like switch 2, I dont need eshop to remind me
I REALLY shouldve do the download while watching anime
...
another episode ig
golden lance
@fading stratus should i flex on the peasantry with my mega floette?
pseudo goblet
oh
fading stratus
Sure
Play calm mind draining kiss mega floette
Paired with sinistcha
So it becomes unkillable
Does it get draining kiss
Or nasty plot
Whatever it gets
vagrant steppe
Oh hey that solves our stall core issue
You can actually do damage and now you can't die
Why the fuck did they not use chess timers
fading stratus
ohh leech seed and salt cure got nerfed
warm sky
ohh leech seed and salt cure got nerfed
They really tried to nerf stall a little at least
golden lance
Thing already lowkey sucked without tera
warm sky
Rip garg
They hate good rock types
crimson moat
I know that we already brought up intentionally drawing but the follow up to that tweet adds onto the funny
fading stratus
they really want monkeys to be good
one funny strat I've been seeing is
entrainment hawlucha pass no guard into fissure snorlax
hexed valley
ohh leech seed and salt cure got nerfed
Where's this doc
fading stratus
sharp kernel
one funny strat I've been seeing is
You haven’t seen my latest funny strat, ally switch runerigus
sharp kernel
It’s mainly to keep manectric safe, but if I can kill their ability that’s a plus yeah
crimson moat
https://fixupx.com/teruchallenge_/status/2041883353381847514?s=20
How can you read this?
There’s no stallout tie Mons
sharp kernel
day 1 japanese tournament
I see the Japanese came to the same conclusion I realized last night, sinistcha is actually the most irreplaceable and hardest to answer Pokemon in this limited Pokemon pool
sharp kernel
It’s also because there’s a lack of good redirection pokemon
sharp kernel
And then sinistcha is also just speed control with TR and great support
fading stratus
clef's biggest weakness would be like everyone will be teching for EFF
omg look at the usage
sharp kernel
I've yet to play a game where I felt like Garchomp won my opponent the game
fading stratus
probs because youre playing bad opps or sth
pseudo goblet
fading stratus
well well well zane
pseudo goblet
Am I? 🙂
fading stratus
youre well yeah
pseudo goblet
💀
icy heath
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pseudo goblet
HELP!!!
fading stratus
dont you wanna be a friendzzz zanelee
sonic inlet
It's a zombie
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sonic inlet
fading stratus
yeah
pseudo goblet
swift jasper
it's kitt
fading stratus
X
pseudo goblet
Why??
fading stratus
trust me on this get pikachu
pseudo goblet
For real??
pseudo goblet
Ahh
That seems kinda bad for them to do imo
Done
Btw I love this stand a lot
sword dance OHKOs the bot ez
Dont think I would do ranked tonight, trying to finish all the tutorials maybe
Changed my mind
First opponent in ranked are bots right
fading stratus
yeah
pseudo goblet
golden lance
Since the home/champs link are both directly tied to your nintendo account
And i want a cleaner box to work with
pseudo goblet
4th battle and still bot??
pseudo goblet
4th battle and still bot??
Okay Im not so sure
golden lance
The current mons i have i know to not be genned are sneasler, sinistcha, incin, and whimsicott
golden lance
Ok which one of yall mfs are gonna play BSS?
pseudo goblet
Oh dear god they re real real
Oh thank god they dont have EQ, why do you not have EQ dude
They took too long and lost apparently
@fading stratus @golden lance Which one
Okay none of them shiny lol
golden lance
Peli
sharp kernel
@fading stratus you were right, mega clefable is kinda goated
sharp kernel
works either ways
golden lance
Champions coding so good someone got a female gallade from the ranch
pseudo goblet
I wonder if they made champion like, this, so that switch 1 can run it
crimson moat
https://twitter.com/i/status/2041864540250419406
What the fuck
warm sky
What the fuck
ILCA moment
crimson moat
And we’re planning on using this for official tournaments when?
fading stratus
end of may
bugs will be fixed by then
probably
well asian tournaments will start start of may
@pseudo goblet has his nationals in this shit
hexed valley
I see the Japanese came to the same conclusion I realized last night, sinistcha ...
What does sinistcha usually run
pseudo goblet
<@430667447692034059> has his nationals in this shit
yeah no Im not using my family on this shit
until complete fix
fading stratus
I think you can f2p a pretty good team
pseudo goblet
what about a meowstic team Serena wanted lmao
magic thunder
I think you can f2p a pretty good team
bro I'm going insane
theh gave Hawlucha no guard so you can
in doubles
pseudo goblet
meowstic sucks
anyway, then theres Scizor and Golurk
spice rivet
Mega Chesnaught is just him, 3 v 1d the opposing team pog (It took out a Farigaraf before these clips)
spice rivet
What does sinistcha usually run
Macha Gotcha, Trick Room, Rage Powder, Flex move (Shadow Ball, Strength Sap, Scald, Nasty Plot, Protect)
fading stratus
you can run heatproof calm mind matcha gotcha trick room shadow ball
spice rivet
The Heat proof mix up is so funny too
fading stratus
yeah
spice rivet
I used a Jamie Boyt team with it for a while
fading stratus
you can run heatproof calm mind matcha gotcha trick room shadow ball
or matcha gotcha trick room calm mind strength sap
fading stratus
I used a Jamie Boyt team with it for a while
my washed goat
I was so happy when boyt top 4'd that regionals with koraidon
that was peam
crimson moat
entrainment hawlucha pass no guard into fissure snorlax
If this ever somehow ended up being meta, I’d love the memes of using different speed EV lax to counter an opponent doing this as no guard works both ways
hexed valley
Wait does it normally not run heatproof
Wtf is hospitality
Fake ability
When a Pokémon with Hospitality enters a battle, it restores HP for an ally by 25%.
Nvm this is pretty good
spice rivet
Ya, especially with a Iron Def + Body Press mon
spice rivet
Yup, Arch losing Body press is rough for it
sharp kernel
if I had a penny for every loss I've gotten off my own misplays, I'd have a quarter
crimson moat
Do you have your vanniluxe ready?
Vanilluxe is faster and can freeze his opponents
spice rivet
Rn my team is:
Ttar - Mega Stone
Excadrill - Sash
Chesnaught - Mega Stone
Farigiraf - Leftovers
Incin - Sitrus
Gyarados - Wacan
I feel too Rock weak rn with Gyarados and Incin, also double intimidate will be bad into Kingambit
I feel like I need damage on the Special side at the very least too
fading stratus
yeah your team looks like intimidate victim
sharp kernel
and double intimidate isn't terribly uncommon due to the lack of actual good mons
spice rivet
I like the FWG core, but I dont feel its critical rn
spice rivet
Im probs keeping it Mega for now just to deal with Froslass and other weather atm, but def something that could change in the future
That or honestly, tearing down everything and starting fresh may be the play
fading stratus
ah no protect?
spice rivet
Ill probs swap out Stomping for it since Excadrill hits Ground weak stuff already
fading stratus
also you can eq protect
spice rivet
Ye
lone harbor
yo
spice rivet
Hydreigon could also be a decent choice
spice rivet
At work rn 😔
fading stratus
honestly rotom wash over gyarados
its a levitate mon
you can eq besides it
it completes your fwg core
isnt weak to rock
also can use it vs kingambit
holy shit first fissure snorlax, then sheer cold icecream then horn drill excadrill
spice rivet
@fading stratus I didnt see your Rotom Wash bit, but I did come up with this off the dome
It can easily be slotted in though
fading stratus
honestly helping hand incin
instead of throat chop or sth idk
just makes everything a ohko button
also what item on dragapult?
white herb?
spice rivet
No idea since the item pool is so small rn lol
fading stratus
clear body white herb is diabolical
because they cant intimidate proc your herb
spice rivet
kind vortex
are people running entrainment mega lucha in any big numbers?
or is it just gimmick?
fading stratus
https://pokepast.es/d98c34a0b89f4c3d
looks pretty decent
obsidian juniper
X
fading stratus
are people running entrainment mega lucha in any big numbers?
it could potentially be a problem
not yet tho
lone harbor
ye most the like
major complains ive seen from better players so far
are focused on mega floette
fading stratus
floette is probably too strong for the power level
but like
so are jenjar
and zard y
spice rivet
Kinda happy Mega Mence and Metagross arent in yet
spice rivet
They would've eclipse like everything new Mega wise
lone harbor
big fan of the whole modular shit u get to do with venusaur
either being a tanky wincon or sleep powder spam next to zard-y
fading stratus
I kinda dk if sleep powder in venu is worth rn
like the expected sleep turns dropped from 1.6 to 1.25 iirc
thats kinda huge drop
like its probably pretty good
but like is it amazing
hasty anchor
Lots of neat and interesting strategies
Most players just use Garchomp and the same thing it's been doing for 20 years.
hasty anchor
Give 'er a Triple Axel to its stupid face
lone harbor
but like is it amazing
i'd like to say it feels okay
but
like half the battles rn are vs toddlers and bots
so i got no fucking idea
fading stratus
hasty anchor
oh god it's master duel all over again
hasty anchor
Yeah, battling against others is way, way different
There's a lot of culture, salt and history in link battles, VGC and whatever Smogon is doing rn
lone harbor
oh no im saying like historically ive played smogon singles mostly
just this is my first time rlly actually trying official VGC
golden lance
Folks
fading stratus
honestly this format is weak enough that people with no experience can enjoy it too
golden lance
There is a non zero chance mega goli keeps emergency exit
hasty anchor
Ah
golden lance
fading stratus
honestly this format is weak enough that people with no experience can enjoy it ...
like imagine playing a format with primals bikes and horses as your first vgc format
hasty anchor
Honestly, I'd be fine with or without Emergency Exit
hasty anchor
If it does, it'll keep doing the thing it does best
If it doesn't, then that's really cool
fading stratus
There is a non zero chance mega goli keeps emergency exit
honestly even tough claws would be underwhelming
hasty anchor
Cause Golisopod's done retreating and is going to commit to destroying whatever's in the way.
fading stratus
because at the end of the day its a mega that can be intimidated
hasty anchor
Which I think is really cool
golden lance
If there's ever a mon that needs sand god
Man you really cant run a physical attacker for shit huh
hasty anchor
Man, I really want more special attacks
But about most mons I like using all use physical attacks
fading stratus
as long as incin is legal physical attackers will always be in the disadvantages
hasty anchor
...And not like
fading stratus
thats why early sv miraidon was better than korai
hasty anchor
Gyrados?
fading stratus
by a mile
hasty anchor
Mawile?
...Anything else with Intimidate?
Do we need to be giving Tiger Mask more credit than it deserves?
golden lance
Save pokemon champions, metagross
fading stratus
scrpapy/inner focus mon in the format?
mega kang?
mega lopunny gets scrappy
if you want inner focus theres a defiant user
in kingambit
milo has competitive
hasty anchor
Defiant's just super cool
hasty anchor
Your attempts to startle me only whet my blades
lone harbor
even has decent m-gar and floette mus
lone harbor
hate that fuckass bird
fading stratus
also farigiraf blocks fake out
hasty anchor
Honestly, as someone who likes the idea behind Incineroar and it's character I really just don't like how it's treated as "perfection in every form" or whatever.
fading stratus
tera blast also isnt in the game
fading stratus
we've been using tera for almost 4 years man
hasty anchor
...Z Moves?
hasty anchor
Actually, I really think at this point in comparison Z moves would be underwhelming
hasty anchor
Well, the generic stuff anyways
fading stratus
it'll always be good
hasty anchor
But that'll also depend on how champions handles it
kind vortex
im a career singles player
while it's not the officlal competitive ladder, singles is a thing in champions too, if you wante dto dabble in it
bring 6 pick 3, just like bss
golden lance
zmove is a one time nuke button
All fun and games until you read a switch and click hydro vortex while staring a rotom wash
hasty anchor
I think most times, the damage alone is enough to do a one-hit KO. Though scaling atk power through BP is difficult
kind vortex
because there arent shit like hazards
i tried a casual single to do the win a casual battle mission, ended up winning entirely due to stealth rock chip lol
hasty anchor
Most the more powerful attacks have 180 or more BP
kind vortex
took like 5 random mons and a mega lucario i imported and eked out a sweep due to stealth rock letting lucario pick up a kill on typhlosion that it wouldn't have otherwise
fading stratus
ah
kind vortex
but yeah, you're not entirely wrong; hazards exist in 3v3 singles but it's not always easy to take full advantage of them
hasty anchor
Though, all they do is just damage, and only a few do something else (Splintered Stoneshards can destroy terrain, Clangorous Soulblaze boosts all stats once, Extreme Evoboost boosts all stats sharply but otherwise deals no damage)
But I guess that happens when you are now the thing that's had the least bit of spotlight, now that Mega Evolution has returned
kind vortex
champions in the future
add z moves
add eevee
remove baton pass from eevee
hasty anchor
What's amusing still is how varies the Z-status moves are
fading stratus
z status moves were pretty good
z destiny bond was hilarious
z splash
z conversion
fading stratus
lmao
pseudo goblet
What I miss
pseudo goblet
you missed grav apple being 90 power
Originally was??
fading stratus
80
pseudo goblet
Ah
pseudo goblet
also crabhammer is 95 accuracy
Alright, crabominable team
pseudo goblet
https://x.com/Elite_4_J/status/2041953982529028215?s=20
Hey look its the guy that took me forever to find when ZA launch
Wait, Fini
fading stratus
yeah I thought that was the thing whole time