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And it's a starter

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So yeah good starter megas can happen

pseudo goblet
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Sceptile stealing Lawnmower Rotom shtick

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I think I remember it having some use

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Somehow

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Grass rotom.nearly won worlds

pseudo goblet
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Ranked really made me love it

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Pretend the times sniped by giant whales wasn’t in this timeline Hahaa

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Okay I really should leave you alone, you re probably busy

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Nah dw

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Japan makes some wild teams

pseudo goblet
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Leavanny???

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it gets chlorophyll

pseudo goblet
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So does Venusaur no??

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Or wrong ability

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yeah venusaur gets chlorophyll

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jumpluff is probs the best chlorophyll mon

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venusaur is good because it has a mega

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hilligant is good

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exeggutor is like funny

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because it gets expanding force

pseudo goblet
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Guess they were looking for something with chlorophyll plus answer to psychics

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Mega gengar balance is probs pretty good

pseudo goblet
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I think I played mega mence the most

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Tailwind double edge hyper voice protect

magic thunder
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oh yeah

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did we ever talk about how

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as of rn

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Dragon Claw being boosted by sharpness

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has 0 usage

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because no one with sharpness learns it

normal cave
outer eagle
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Clearly this means Mega Gallade will have Sharpness now

pseudo goblet
normal cave
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Bls give my boy haxorus some love

pseudo goblet
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Okay hax does learn dragon claw lmao

golden lance
outer eagle
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Which Dragon doesn't learn DClaw?

golden lance
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Kingdra?

outer eagle
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It does

golden lance
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Does it?

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Huh

outer eagle
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I remember early gens Kingdra knowing DClaw

pseudo goblet
magic thunder
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Simplest option is like

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Salamance, no?

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cuz he has a free ability slot

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no second normal ability

outer eagle
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Apparently Kingdra doesn't learn DClaw frogethink

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The more you know i guess

swift jasper
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It doesn't have claws

warm sky
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tbh either give haxorus another ability or replace unnerve

outer eagle
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Wooper doesn't have hands but here we are

warm sky
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either way, sharpness would be nice for it

pseudo goblet
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Neither does Wooper have hands to punch icant

pseudo goblet
warm sky
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or replace rivalry

pseudo goblet
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Haxorus kinda has fair amount of tail moves too

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Aqua Iron and Dragon

warm sky
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Haxorus gets Aerial Ace, Night Slash, X-Scissor and obv Shadow Claw & Dragon Claw

swift jasper
warm sky
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So you'd have pretty good coverage too

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tbh I'm expecting them to be dumb and give chomp z sharpness

pseudo goblet
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So we all thinking Haxorus would be amazing wtuh Tough claw right

warm sky
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to lean into it being a mixed attacker

warm sky
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would be

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yes

pseudo goblet
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Ye

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Sharpness most sense but limiting

outer eagle
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Does Dual Chop get Sharpness boosted?

warm sky
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no

normal cave
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Love the dragons

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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I want sheer force eternatus

golden lance
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Yknow i think it's quite unfortunate the funniest rain tech ever never catched on in vgc

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Scope lens kingdra + dragon cheer support

outer eagle
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And here i thought it'd be Parasect

golden lance
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I said "tech" not "self sabotage attempt"

outer eagle
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What if they buff OHKO moves to always one shot through Sash/Sturdy/Endure/Protect (if it lands)clearly

golden lance
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65% articuno usage

pseudo goblet
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Wait so have you two got kyogre or Pelipper yet??

golden lance
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I did

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Parasect was usable once

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Because it had dry skin

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So it was a counter to primal Ogre

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Parasect also top 8'd worlds

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Back in DPP

pseudo goblet
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Sooooo all kanto bugs had use??

golden lance
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Did venomoth ever get any?

pseudo goblet
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^

fading stratus
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Venonat is a okay mon

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So it counts

maiden flax
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Parasect really just going around being the best primal kyogre counter lmao

pseudo goblet
maiden flax
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move 1: Spore
move 2: Stun Spore
move 3: X-Scissor / Seed Bomb
move 4: Aromatherapy / Light Screen / X-Scissor
item: Leftovers
ability: Dry Skin
nature: Adamant
evs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 96 Def / 156 SpD

Was a set used by parasect in singles

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Lmao

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Parasect
Possible Items: Life Orb, Yache Berry, Focus Sash
Trait: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 6 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
– Spore
– Seed Bomb
– X-Scissor
– Protect

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This was the worlds 2010 set

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bruial would like this team

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pelliper is probs more optimal

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but like

swift jasper
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Where's perish song on toed

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I did think that

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but idk if ice beam or that would be better

swift jasper
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The answer is always perish song

fading stratus
swift jasper
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Good

pseudo goblet
swift jasper
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Oh yeah they have 2 assault vests

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ohh

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oops

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hmm waiy

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team version 15

normal cave
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Boolet seed?

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yeah

normal cave
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I love this team

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yeah I knew you;d love it

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bullet seed procs stamina

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of archaludon

normal cave
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Bullet seed body press one shot

sharp kernel
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do you prefer politoed over pelipper as a rain setter?

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in general, not in regards to this team

fading stratus
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I don't like pelipper

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It has so bad stats

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But it's good because hurricane is good and it also gets wide guard/tailwind

sharp kernel
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??????

normal cave
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Better nerf Thundurus

outer eagle
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They already nerfed it from 1/4 to 1/2

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Surely they don’t just make it 2/3 instead icant

fading stratus
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Oh if para doesn't lower speed

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Then megas and switching might be same priority bracket

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Which is wild

sharp kernel
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If para doesn’t lower speed, my idea to run raichu completely goes out the window lol

outer eagle
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Para without the speed lowering is just meme Sleep kek

fading stratus
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Raichu gets electric surge

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So it'll be fine regardless

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Even if nuzzle doesn't work

sharp kernel
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Yeah but I wanted him in my rain team for nuzzle/fake out/helping hand

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If I’m just running him for fake out/helping hand, there’s better mons I can run

vagrant steppe
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Yeah if there's no speed lowering what's the point of paralysis

normal cave
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Raichu Indeedee Iron Crown fouble terrain

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Yeah like y'know

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Incineroar

vagrant steppe
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Goes from the most relevant status condition to useless

normal cave
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Sleep is the most relevant status

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Idt we'll get paradoxes anytime soon

sharp kernel
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Oh okay, the info here is kinda scuffed by centrist

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More than likely natural cure got a buff

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We won't find out for real until like game launches

sharp kernel
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I feel like paralysis not working as always would have been something Wolfey would have picked up on

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But creator copy and actual copy are definitely different

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Because of the stuff

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Like mega

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Thingy

sharp kernel
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Anyways, I got a solid core I think for my rain team

fading stratus
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Mega swampert is like a fine mon

sharp kernel
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Pelipper/Raichu/Meganium/Basculegion
Incineroar will likely make the team, but I'm testing a few other stuff first (also we don't know for sure that we're getting the H forms in champions right?)

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Sneasler is in

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So I'd assume so

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I'll say tho

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if drampa gets drizzle

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it'll probs be the best rain setter thats not a legendary

maiden flax
sharp kernel
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Why would Drampa get drizzle though

maiden flax
sharp kernel
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What’s the lore reason behind it

maiden flax
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Cause thunder cloud

sharp kernel
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Yeah, I’m asking how Drampa goes from having cloud 9 to having a weather ability

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Oh wait Drampa doesn’t have cloud 9

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I’m bugging tf out

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But now that I mention it, mega drampa should have cloud 9

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the chinese leeks said drampa gets drizzle

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so depends on if they're true or not

maiden flax
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they said snowcape

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or snowscape

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whatever

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not snow cloak

maiden flax
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no the guy grok said snow cape

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and I saw snowscape on twitter

maiden flax
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@fading stratus he said cloak

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no he said cape before the msg altogether

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.

maiden flax
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my man @magic thunder tell em

magic thunder
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YE

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sorry for caps

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it was like

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snowcape

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and we didn't know what the "proper" tl was right off the bat

maiden flax
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Snowcape would be a very weird translation for the Chinese name for snow warning

maiden flax
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maiden flax
normal cave
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Tbf gastly has a freakish spatk

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But yeah get deleted

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yeah gastly has I think second highest or highest SpA in little cup vgc

golden lance
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Bolt help me out

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sure

golden lance
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I need a list of every single mon i need to change moves in sv that i cant in za

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Got a friend willing to help me out set up the whole thing

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wont you have fresh new mon while transferred in champions

golden lance
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Moves nature and abilities wont

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I presume

sharp kernel
maiden flax
sharp kernel
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Stats iirc are the only things not transferable

golden lance
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Yea this is what i saw

sharp kernel
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So you can save a lot of VP by just doing everything in SV/SwSh

fading stratus
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well glimmet was my highest but abra works ig

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since both have 105

golden lance
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I got

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Peli
Incin
Rilla
Palafin
A tales
Sneasler
Arch
Hat
Indee
Giraf

sharp kernel
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If I was you Choccy, I would pick 6-8 pokemon to play with day 1, and worry about everything else once we have the full info

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Since things can drastically change

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Depending on certain mechanics

golden lance
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Ig

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@fading stratus you have a dozogiri team built right?

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uhh yeah

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not moves tho

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I dont mind playing a unoptimal team

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for a while

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noone will gonna have a fully optimised team

sharp kernel
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Idk, I feel like days 1-4 will probably be very comp on ranked queue

golden lance
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Yea considering its gonna be switch only

sharp kernel
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Unless ranked queue isn’t being launched immediately

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Which I doubt

fading stratus
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eh

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i think most people will just wanna have fun early game

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also noone will know day 1 meta

sharp kernel
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This kid bolt thinks winning isn’t fun icant

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so building a whole team all for it to get outdated the day after would be funny

golden lance
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Oh yea how good was dozogiri in reg H?

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Barely able to find results for it

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I could probably list out like 15 topping teams in 5 mins

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frankfurt

sharp kernel
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Idt there’s a single meta where dozogiri hasn’t topped

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Ngl

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gdansk

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stuttgard

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brisbane

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louisville

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gdansk 2

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gdansk 2

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gdansk 2

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gdansk 2

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joinville

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joinville

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did it becoime 15

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if not there are more

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but i dont wanna spam

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the point is dozogiri was good

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in a format where everyone and their mom was running haze

vagrant steppe
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So if the speed changes go through, what the fuck happens with Shadow tag?

fading stratus
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wdym

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if megas and switch have same prio?

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you can still switch if you've chosen it at the start of turn before shadow tag is active

golden lance
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People finding out about the secret effect

spice rivet
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Stomp and Heavy Slam also do this too

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But ya, very happy with how clear theyre make move descriptions

normal cave
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Heavy slam?

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Damn, Alolan Muk counter

spice rivet
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Unironically yes lmao. As long as you get rid of the Smeargle quick enough. I did it once to someone in one of the no legendaries format on ladder

golden lance
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FUCK THEY ACTUALLY DECONFIRMED PORY 2 BY NAME I GOTTA MOVE THIS GUY

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oh is porygon 2 not in?

spice rivet
warm sky
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ah i see

normal cave
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Rip Clefairy damn

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Rip Eviolite

void herald
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do we know what mega golurk's ability is?

maiden flax
warm sky
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It's No Guard bc for the Fissure it carries clearly

hasty anchor
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Minimize can be very frustrating

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Heavy Slam, Heat Crash, Steamroller, Stomp, Dragon Rush, Flying Press and Phantom Force (For some reason) also are guaranteed to hit

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What's odd is how in Scarlet/Violet, a lot of things that learn Minimize now can't use it.

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Chansey and Clefairy can't use it anymore it looks like

golden lance
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I found it btw

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gj

sharp kernel
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Do you remember that max attack bulky offensive grimmsnarl that saw success back in the day @fading stratus

fading stratus
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not really

pseudo goblet
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oh yeah thugs btw

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you should participate in the tournament

golden lance
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Btw bolt, thoughts on mega skarm?

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there are like 4100 entrants so far

fading stratus
golden lance
sharp kernel
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I’m trying to get this rain team situated

pseudo goblet
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Drill runs man

sharp kernel
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What mons do you think are going to be must answer @fading stratus

golden lance
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I wanted to run balance but we know even know what the format is, much less what its checks are

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oh yeah I got a ogerpon btw chocc

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Zard y gengar metagross

golden lance
pseudo goblet
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pelliper

sharp kernel
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Ig I got to figure out what’s my answer to perish song also

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dragonite is pretty good if you have loaded die

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because loaded die scale shot is tale as old as time

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also you need like farigiraf

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and ursaluna

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potentially hatterene indeedee

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idt those are needed tho

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not hatterene

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indeedee is good tho

pseudo goblet
sharp kernel
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Oh right, regular ursaluna technically gets stronger

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gholdengo obviously

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yeah

golden lance
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I think kang got powercrept i'm ngl

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incin lost knock

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and if it gets pup

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because scrappy ignores intimidate

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so its a buff

golden lance
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It wont get pup

sharp kernel
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I’m wondering if I should be running sunny day as the 4th move on Meganium for the mirror

pseudo goblet
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It did in ZA iirc blob3c

golden lance
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Za also didnt have abilities, stats didnt stack, and everyone had SD CM and NP anyway

sharp kernel
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It’s so hard to theory without knowing what will be legal

fading stratus
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yeah

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its weird

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because movepool changes too

golden lance
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Agree

fading stratus
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and some items just might not be in

golden lance
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For all we know rilla doesnt even have grassy glide

sharp kernel
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But I can just start picking a 6 and work backwards on what’s matchup I have to address

fading stratus
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perish rain is probs very funny tho

pseudo goblet
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Let Beedrill keep Outrage, I dare you GF KEKW

fading stratus
golden lance
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I think my mega of choice day 1 is probably gengar

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Tho i dont want to play perish trap

fading stratus
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you dont need perish

golden lance
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Yea ik

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I'm just gonna pivot incin in and out

sharp kernel
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So for right now I’m going to say my 6 is pelipper/Raichu/Basculegion M/Mega Meganium/Ursaluna/Incineroar and work from there to see what are my bad matchups

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HOLY SHIT THE OGERPON HAS BEST FRIEND RIBBON

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so cool

golden lance
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If i wanted to do rain i would bring like

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Peli/basc/meganium/arch/maus/???

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Maybe a tailwind guy idk

fading stratus
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if loaded die exists

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this is like a very decent core

golden lance
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You could fit a swampert in there

fading stratus
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yeah

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you can eq besides dnite pelli

golden lance
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Whats the dnite set

sharp kernel
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See, but here’s my thought process, Raichu gives me a leg up in the mirror, and I fully expect A LOT of rain teams in the meta

golden lance
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Hurricane thunder scale shot protect?

golden lance
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Tho i will say swamp also goes insane in the mirror

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Eq their arch ice punch the meganium

pseudo goblet
golden lance
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The thing has like 5 billion atk anyway

fading stratus
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scale shot espeed tailwind protect

golden lance
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Oh you could do that

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Sure

fading stratus
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e speed can be haze

golden lance
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Inner focus?

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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idk

pseudo goblet
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Not the ‘chosen one’ ribbon

fading stratus
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but it also has a master ball rank ribbon

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and stuff

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pretty good find

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did trade my second miraidon for it tho

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but I dont regret

golden lance
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I think you should get a BM

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Non zero chance it gets in day 1

pseudo goblet
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Now find Calyrex, both of you clearly

golden lance
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It's not like i'm not trying yknow

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Caly kinda poopoo without the horses tho

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So kinda low on the priority list

fading stratus
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you can just do like this

golden lance
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What natures on stuff?

fading stratus
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you go like max speed ghold

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timid

golden lance
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Also no flip turn on pert?

fading stratus
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err not timid

pseudo goblet
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Swampert can flip turn????

golden lance
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Yea since gen 8

fading stratus
golden lance
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Uhhhh

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Horsepower?

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Lowkey maybe protect

sharp kernel
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I’m on wide guard on my pel for now, but again, I got to see just what’s in to adjust

fading stratus
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you can remove protect

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but i wouldnt recommend

sharp kernel
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I also don’t think you need a 2nd offensive move on pelipper if you have a swift swimmer tbh

pseudo goblet
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I think

golden lance
fading stratus
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ones supposed to be body press

pseudo goblet
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Bolt hear me out, Incineroar getting a Fire type Parting shot, but it leaves burned clearly

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It’d likely make funny interaction with facade mons KEKW

sharp kernel
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Sigh this sucks cause swampert technically checks both m gengar and gholdengo, while basculegion m technically only checks gholdengo

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Oh wait I’m lying

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Nvm

fading stratus
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lol

sharp kernel
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Basculegion checks both icant

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I probably just band my legion right

golden lance
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My issue with basc is that your ghost move is kinda balls until last respects gets online

golden lance
fading stratus
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you can run power herb phantom force

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thats a funny thing people did

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power herb phantom force to break protect

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or wide guard

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so kyogre gets full power sprout

golden lance
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Oh yea fun fact

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Psychic fangs can also break screens

fading stratus
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yeah

golden lance
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Weird that it can do that

fading stratus
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also raging bull can break screens iirc

fading stratus
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oh does ogerpon always have lonely nature zane?

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thats a nice touch

hasty anchor
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It is a very cool detail

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You can't really socialize much when you are stuck on top of a mountain, and the locals think you really are a monster.

pseudo goblet
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I still gotta do the pecharunt quest lol

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Gonna see if I can put Poipole in the 800

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Are there other notable gift pokemon I should soft reset in UltraMoon

fading stratus
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I now need to hunt Latinas

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Both the Latinas

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I think I need

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Entei

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Latinas

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Terrakion

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Zygarde

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Eternatus

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Urshifu water

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Galarian Zapdos

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Terapagos

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2 Regis

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Iron crown raging bolt

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And blood moon

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And okidogi

fading stratus
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Type null ig

fading stratus
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
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It was kinda Dynamax Adventure’s selling point

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Even in the poster

fading stratus
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ah

pseudo goblet
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But yeah, Type Null Hahaa

fading stratus
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I have 7 mons I wanna trade rn zane I'll contact you when I reach 10

pseudo goblet
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Completely forgot

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So later, sure clearly

fading stratus
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oh there's no archaludon in go

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zane will you evolve a few of my mons when I ask

outer eagle
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Wonder if you put up some random nostalgia gen 1 mon like Nidoking or whatever someone will give you like Xerneas in return cheems

fading stratus
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so I have a team with my OT

fading stratus
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there's like hacked mewtwo stuff in gts

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where if you put something okay

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it'll give you mewtwo

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and then you go from there

outer eagle
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I think I have like 31 legendaries rn

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and I started from 0

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Articuno
Ho-oh
Groudon Kyogre Rayquaza Registeel
Dialga Palkia Cresselia Heatran Regigigas
Landorus Tornadus Thundurus
Yveltal
Tapu Koko Tapu Bulu Tapu Lele Tapu Fini
Solgaleo Lunala Necrozma
Zacian
Urshifu Dark
Regieleki
Wo chien Chien Pao Ting Lu Chi Yu
Koraidon Miraidon
Ogerpon
Galarian Moltres

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33 apparently

pseudo goblet
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Same for @golden lance

pseudo goblet
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No offense, bets on him finishes before Choccy finish Hibiki dubismile

icy heath
# pseudo goblet

Wow fake news he says every game but it clearly shows every generation instead

warm sky
mighty storm
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wait a minute, whats that weavile is holding

pseudo goblet
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Why the reaction

fading stratus
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if that was the case

sharp kernel
warm sky
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It's the most soullless shit

golden lance
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50$ for a membership is insane

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
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now I look at it isnt team 3 stacked

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only bad mon here is ampharos

warm sky
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why does weavile have ttarite

fading stratus
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probably error on the part of the person who made the teams

pseudo goblet
warm sky
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ねむ

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@pseudo goblet send to your child

magic thunder
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uhm

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chat

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do you notice something weird in the photo

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that's not a mega stone we know of for it to be a troll

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aerodactyl is same color scheme but inverted

normal cave
fading stratus
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its a ttarite

magic thunder
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kek

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also why no mega on team 2

fading stratus
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they forgor

warm sky
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anyway mega weavile should only happen if 2 things

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one, it has sharpness

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2 we get an ice type slicing move

icy heath
golden lance
icy heath
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Finally found the pokemon that was my first shiny in Pokemon Go

magic thunder
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truth nuke

fading stratus
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I still dont have a shiny in go

icy heath
pseudo goblet
magic thunder
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Do you think the pokemon that are shown to have human-like intellect just send their owners memes in messages

golden lance
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No, they send you memes via telepathy

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You can a wrong read and they flood you with "chat are we cooked?"

magic thunder
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The incomprehensible horror meme hatterene sends you before beating you to death for laughing too hard at something

ashen barn
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@icy heath's paradise

icy heath
ashen barn
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Yeeep

icy heath
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I don't even have to pay for that I can just steal it neko_nod

ashen barn
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I'll send you a postcard instead

icy heath
ashen barn
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Pokemon postcard, how about it?

icy heath
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For sure

ashen barn
golden lance
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Holy

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Altho, thinking about it, the teams are probably randomized no?

fading stratus
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I doubt that

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it woulda been hard if someone got a new mega

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when teams are randomised

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so

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they probably had stuff

golden lance
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What i'm thinking is

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Why would you give a team 2 megas and the other none?

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Pokemon tends to be very averse to asymmetry

golden lance
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All stones are gonna be in the shop

fading stratus
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yeah but theyre only showing battles preview

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here

golden lance
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Oh yea how we feel about mega golisopod?

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Mega scizor was pretty good in vgc wasnt it?

fading stratus
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it wasnt

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it was like playable

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thats more than a lot of megas

golden lance
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Why is vgc so centralized uuuuuuuuuugh

fading stratus
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bro thats like ou too

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pokemon in general

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scizor apparently had 9 regionals top 8

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thats like fine

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usage

golden lance
#

But yea i feel that the stuff to beat is jenjar and meganium

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And the steel types feel pretty good into both

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Bug steel specially with the 4x grass resist

fading stratus
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meganium definitely isnt stuff to beat

golden lance
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Its not but its prob the most popular

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At least week 1

swift jasper
fading stratus
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every good mega not named kanghaskhan has a good MU into meganium

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also I was looking at past formats

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I had forgotten Kartana got tailwind

magic thunder
fading stratus
#

Clearly G is Gumshoos

magic thunder
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gumshoos will have a new abillity where he can declare war on Kanto to get a third turn

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oh yeah

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gen 11 leak fr fr

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we get the actual fossil form of

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dragapult

fading stratus
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it'll be called dinopult

magic thunder
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oh yeah btw

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shoutout to the elite ball knowledge in his design

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where the tail end is ghostly

fading stratus
#

a[dragapult]

magic thunder
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because we have never found the fossil he's based on with that part of the tail intact

jovial gobletBOT
magic thunder
pseudo goblet
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What I miss

magic thunder
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Dragapult

icy heath
magic thunder
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they're still here...

icy heath
golden lance
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Ok the plan is the following chat

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I'm gonna level up 30 furfrous to lvl91

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And then snipe every single mf asking for one in place of a legendary

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If it works i'm golden and maybe bolt too depending on how many i get

warm sky
pseudo goblet
golden lance
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Za

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Apparently in older games they keep the trim even when transfering

pseudo goblet
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Last time I check older games dont keep the hair once in HOME

Also sure ZA was the plan but we dont have HOME support yet, by then people will either take the legendaries down or taken by others already

fading stratus
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honestly tho choccy

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if you can get okay shinies

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you can get koraidon genned

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and those can snipe most legendaries

pseudo goblet
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I blame the trolls man

fading stratus
#

not even furfrou trolls vro

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the bigger trolls are the meowth trolls

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galarian meowth to transfer in lets go

pseudo goblet
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Indeed

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Takes Champion to have more people sharing pains lol

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Honestly, me rn, just less active, still

fading stratus
pseudo goblet
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Yall gotta give me some credit choosing the most safe one here

golden lance
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Since you cant ask for those

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Tho ig i can hunt them myself

fading stratus
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yeah finding them is a bit awkwars

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but I generally gts search for almost every mon on the box

fading stratus
#

looks like rillaboom and indeedee arent in the game

golden lance
#

Why is victini in its own tier?

pseudo goblet
icy heath
golden lance
fading stratus
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its not mine

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source is this

normal cave
#

Sliced apple mon

pseudo goblet
icy heath
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Bunny

warm sky
#

victnii

fading stratus
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saw this funny team

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its probably pretty good

sharp kernel
#

I saw something similar

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And people talking about how kommo-o is underrated

fading stratus
#

yeah its probably a pretty decent mon

fading stratus
#

honestly I'll say tho

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tera kinda made me bad at teambuilding probably

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because sharing weakness doesnt matter as much

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since you can tera

maiden flax
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There is a non-zero chance they give mega garchomp z sharpness despite being a special attacker

normal cave
#

Air slash boost

golden lance
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Anything that should or shouldnt be here?

#

80 slots really aint enough idk what yall are on

golden lance
normal cave
#

Double megas

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Is that standard?

#

Damn, one of those is tripple mega

golden lance
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None of these are completed teams

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Just everything that i plan to use in champs

normal cave
#

Ah

sharp kernel
golden lance
#

Maybe?

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Its probably the hardest non mega hitter that psyspam gets tho

sharp kernel
#

So like yeah

golden lance
#

It has levitate tho

sharp kernel
#

Is that confirmed

golden lance
#

Yep

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In the trailers

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The other two got protean and bulletproof ftr

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So unless you wanna do skill swap shit its probably relegated to being a sun mon

normal cave
#

Gotta compete with zardy for that slot

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It do get heat wave at least

sharp kernel
#

Random thought, but why the fuck are we running mega swampert in a world where mega meganium will likely be meta lol

golden lance
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its my favorite mega

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this is everything i plan on getting pre champs release

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the other stuff can wait

sharp kernel
#

What does mega swampert answer that basculegion M doesn’t?

fading stratus
#

indeedee isnt in the game choccy

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realistically

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doubt meganium will be meta

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it'll be like

#

landorus therian rn

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not even lan t

golden lance
fading stratus
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btw chocc

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talonflame sometimes just doesnt carry an item

golden lance
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Acro?

fading stratus
#

to get 110 power acro

golden lance
#

Yea

fading stratus
#

which doesnt break gale wings

golden lance
#

Surely you could bring grassy seed or smth

mighty storm
#

got a playset of mega ducky now

fading stratus
#

eh

sharp kernel
#

Idk, I think the fact that it had positive matchups vs literally every other grass type already makes it already solid. Idet amoongus can ohko it with the 4x weakness. And you’re not leaving amoongus in vs a pelipper/meganium lead

fading stratus
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rilla isnt in the game

fading stratus
#

mence can double edge

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zard can torch it in sun

#

gengar can sludge bomb

#

metagross can use steel moves

#

frosslass can blizzard

golden lance
#

But yea bolt

sharp kernel
#

Nothing you said worries me

golden lance
fading stratus
#

if you wanna pretrain moveset you need to train multiples

sharp kernel
#

Meganium can be positioned in a winning position much easier than Zard, froslass and metagross

fading stratus
#

thats like the fakest sentence I;ve ever read

sharp kernel
#

Join the tournament bolt

#

Please let me watch you go 0-3 drop

fading stratus
#

bro if I had a switch I'd

golden lance
fading stratus
#

luna sometimes foregoes eq for swords dance/sub

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also bro did you take some crack

#

wtf is rock slide

golden lance
#

Ngl i just picked the top 4 off pikalytics

fading stratus
#

the fabled assault vested dozo

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dozo always carries protect

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unless its rest talk

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also use this

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idt dozo is that good without tera

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obv its fine

#

but now surely you can position it to get like a big ass atk

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tho you should probs carry haze

#

if dozo is popular

golden lance
#

how this?

fading stratus
#

I was doing a write up for the above list

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if torkoal has protect

#

overheat is fine

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because of the item eject pack

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heat wave is more for specs sets

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taunt on the bird can be wisp

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you can also play like overheat brave bird

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if you want 2 offensive moves

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you can do anothe neenaytales set with encore disable icy wind blizzard or blizzard protect or sth

golden lance
#

i dont really wanna do dupes for now

#

lest in indulge myself in having 8 different incins

fading stratus
#

incin is like a fine set you need like 3 different incin sets for different builds because sometimes you just play 1 offensive move for wisp/taunt/snarl

#

or helping hand

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and in AV sets you play uturn

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over parting

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probs do iron defense body press corv

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hyphlosion is fine sometimes it foregoes a fire move for its signature

golden lance
fading stratus
#

you sometimes dont even carry tailwind or roost

#

just depends on set

golden lance
#

i see

fading stratus
#

like this for example

golden lance
#

ic

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btw any mons i should add to the most recent pokepaste?

#

do still have 12 slots

#

before even breaking 30

fading stratus
#

megas or non megas

#

you can add like ttar

golden lance
#

preferably non megas since i want to do those on a separate sheet

fading stratus
#

with knock rock slide low kick

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and sth else

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with av

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or d dance stuff

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or even just cleam protect

golden lance
#

cleam?

fading stratus
#

clear amulet

golden lance
#

ah

fading stratus
#

there's also kommo o

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with like iron defense body press flamethrower protect

#

loaded die scale shot dnite

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sneasler

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volcarona if its confirmed

#

garchomp talonflame is a strong duo

#

aegislash hydreigon is another probably decent duo

#

basculegend

golden lance
#

wouldnt ghold dreigon be better?

fading stratus
#

aegislash is like insanely good mon

#

even after the nerf

golden lance
#

yea but its ghold

#

what moves does scale shot dnite run again? espeed what else

fading stratus
#

you can run espeed and a offensive move like low kick/iron head

#

or tailwind

#

or scale shot haze protect

#

tailwind

#

lemme look at this first

#

obv harcanine

#

it also needs like 2 sets

#

one howl set

#

another banded

#

clefable supportive

#

orthworm with eq spam is a fine strat

#

pult obv

golden lance
#

what nature kommo uses? impish?

fading stratus
#

bold

golden lance
#

sure

#

oh yea also gonna cut all the mons i can get in za

#

this list is gonna be sent to someone else

fading stratus
#

palafin

#

I'll say the worlds format will probs be very centralising

#

because looking at the mon list I'm having trouble naming 30 great mons

#

that cant mega

golden lance
#

do you even run harca if incin exists?

fading stratus
#

yeah

#

harca is an offensive intimidator

#

incin is a defensive intimidator

#

rock fire is a very good offensive typing

golden lance
#

is sneasler even worth without terrains?

fading stratus
#

yeah you can sash

golden lance
#

which speaking of we havent seen any

fading stratus
#

or white herb

#

also kingambit

#

kingambit has good MU vs frosslass and gengar megas

#

also basculegion stuff

#

in sun teams

golden lance
#

i assume it's the exact set as singles gambit

#

but with protect

fading stratus
#

swords dance sucker kowtow protect

golden lance
#

yea pretty much

fading stratus
#

or sucker kowtow iron head lowkick

#

with av

fading stratus
golden lance
#

now what

#

oh yea legion

fading stratus
#

politoed

#

azumarill

golden lance
#

deadass?

fading stratus
#

azu kang was a good duo back in the day

golden lance
#

that was two generations ago

fading stratus
#

basically what you do was lead kang azu

#

kang threatens fake out

#

so they want to double protect

#

but if they are passive azu can belly drum

#

or if they arent passive and double atk azu to deal with you faking out one mon kang would pup them and azu protect

#

it was such a nasty 50/50

golden lance
#

thoughts on weezing g

fading stratus
#

its pretty good yeah

golden lance
#

i'm considering that or hat

#

for the last box slot

#

what would champs trick room even look like?

fading stratus
#

farigiraf ursaluna

#

there's no indeedee so hat sucks

#

there's no p2

#

no cress

#

mimikyu sucks

#

I can see mega garde TR

#

gothitelle exists ig

#

so there

golden lance
#

should probably bring grimm?

fading stratus
#

yeah

golden lance
#

i need a screens guy

fading stratus
#

bronzong exists ig

#

as a trick room mon

golden lance
#

oh yea should probably do confirmed mons only

#

weezing we're not sure on right?

fading stratus
#

yeah idt we've seen it

#

oh yeah

#

you should also get the best mon ever

#

jumpluff

golden lance
#

last slot is volc

fading stratus
#

holy shit dude probably made a teamsheet error icant

#

and had to play it

golden lance
#

how this?

fading stratus
#

you still need 6 mons

void herald
#

remarkable that all but two of them made it into the game

golden lance
void herald
#

even if some of them are pretty different from their final designs (especially scyther and gyarados)

fading stratus
#

what this

golden lance
#

i can reserve the last 6 for za stuff

void herald
fading stratus
#

ah

void herald
#

the other one that got cut is omega, the one next to blastoise

#

gyaon would later have a pre-evo designed that would be the basis for the substitute doll's design

fading stratus
#

yeah that makes sense

golden lance
#

Another one

fading stratus
#

gj

pseudo goblet
fading stratus
#

talking about alpha

pseudo goblet
#

Dragon is trying their best icant

fading stratus
#

leo jumpscare in pokemon stream icant

warm sky
#

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pseudo goblet
#

Guess she doesnt have Clef plush

warm sky
#

Ig not

vagrant steppe
fading stratus
#

they just hate emboar

sharp kernel
#

What if I add a trick room mode to my rain team with farigiraf + ursaluna 👀

fading stratus
#

yeah thats why ursa rain teams play sinistcha

#

because it also heals archaludon

normal cave
#

Any good slow mon with swift swim?

fading stratus
#

basc itself is pretty slow

#

78 speed isnt fast

normal cave
#

So basc can get speed control from both rain and tr

fading stratus
#

it'll be awkward conflict

normal cave
#

So archaludon is probs the best sweeper

fading stratus
#

this is how rain teams played TR in SV

#

with just sinistcha and a moderate speed ursaluna

#

which can take advantage of tailwind as well

normal cave
#

Slow, tanky, good in rain or tr

fading stratus
#

and sinistcha tr

normal cave
fading stratus
#

basc is usually just a rain sweeper

#

this is like a really funny rain team

sharp kernel
#

Well my entire team is meant to be good into the conventional mirror, hence my raichu/MMeganium choice. I’m still undecided whether my raichu should just be supportive sash or be my 2nd mega option though

normal cave
maiden flax
fading stratus
#

yeah

fading stratus
normal cave
#

Ghold is usually immune to helping hand?

fading stratus
#

yeah

#

helping hand coaching decorate

normal cave
maiden flax
#

I hope
They expand the number of wind moves

Cause I'm sort of interested in trying wind rider in vgc

#

Getting boosted by icy wind sounds hilarious

fading stratus
#

there was a world where brambleghast woulda been the world champion

maiden flax
#

Oh?

fading stratus
#

yeah worlds 2023

#

emilio forbes had brambleghast

#

he got a unfortunate dc in t16

maiden flax
#

Noooo!

fading stratus
#

or well half the field got the dc

#

which made them play a sudden death

#

where he lost

#

he coulda won

maiden flax
#

Unfortunate

fading stratus
#

yeah

maiden flax
#

But wind rider in VGC sounds very interesting cause of tailwind and icy wind both counting for the buff

fading stratus
#

it was like this team

#

brambleghast was a sick ass anti meta mon because it was immune to bleakwind and heatwave of heatran

maiden flax
#

Tailwind tornadus I assume

fading stratus
#

thats why some torn played air slash

#

just for brambleghast

maiden flax
#

Nice

fading stratus
#

it was also before brambleghast got poltergeist btw

#

so its best ghost move was tera ghost blast

#

or phantom force

maiden flax
#

Ooo

fading stratus
#

great tusk got second place at a regionals

swift jasper
#

Why is there a shoe in the image

fading stratus
#

why not

outer eagle
#

Sandals are comfy

golden lance